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AP: Bachmann Uses Holocaust to Illustrate Tax Point

MANCHESTER, N.H. (AP) — Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann on Saturday described the loss of “economic liberty” that young Americans face today as a “flash point of history” in which the younger generation will ask what their elders did to stop it.

In a speech to New Hampshire Republicans, Bachmann recounted learning about a horrific time in history as a child — the Holocaust — and wondering if her mother did anything to stop it. She said she was shocked to hear that many Americans weren’t aware that millions of Jews had died until after World War II ended.

Bachmann said the next generation will ask similar questions about what their elders did to prevent them from facing a huge tax burden.

“I tell you this story because I think in our day and time, there is no analogy to that horrific action,” she said, referring to the Holocaust. “But only to say, we are seeing eclipsed in front of our eyes a similar death and a similar taking away. It is this disenfranchisement that I think we have to answer to.”

The generation of Americans just entering the work force now could eventually see 75 percent of their earnings sucked up by income taxes, Social Security and Medicare, Bachmann said. Those young workers are going to wonder what people were doing while “watching quite literally our economic liberty pulled out from under us.”

“The question comes down to this: what will you say to that next generation about what you did to make sure that wouldn’t be their fate?” she said.

Bachmann, along with fellow potential presidential hopefuls Rick Santorum and Tim Pawlenty, spoke at a forum organized by “We the People,” a conservative organization created by former congressional candidate Jennifer Horn.

Comments (205)

  • and to the republic
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:52pm

    my 1st thought was, why do you make statements like this, cause the left will eat you alive. My 2nd thought is, what a great comparison. Cause this is not a game, this is real. We better start standing up for what is right and do something about it.

    Actually I think my 1st thought was about the maturity of someone that gets excited about being FIRST…

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:51pm

    @Looking Both Ways:

    By the way, I have a progressive here in my apartment complex who is going on a tear about how President Lincoln was as bad as Hitler for – in his words: “Instigating a campaign of genocide and mass social reformation upon a liberated people who only desired to live their lives in peace and harmony with all of their fellow mankind.”

    When directed to the single fact of the Confederates firing the first shots, he said it “did not matter the facts of a fictional history that needs to be rewritten for the modern day.”

    His exact words.

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  • nomercy63
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:50pm

    Anyone speaking up against what is going on should be praised dont care who it is it is criminal what we are doing. we have enslaved ourselves and children and great grandchildren to a burden that should not exist we wanted it all and no we have nothing at all

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  • Micmac
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:50pm

    I like this lady… she has cred. Donald is the Pillsbury Doughboy next to her. But seriously where is the true EXPERIENCED candidate that can take on Owebama’s false sylogistic rhetoric with style. Someone who can take that smirk off his face. Attack without attack, critize without critizing.

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    • Hawt'n'secksie
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:59pm

      But you gotta admit, “Listen, emmer effers!” would be a pretty sweet campaign rally chant. And we could all color coordinate our neck ties to match the color of the bags under our eyes. I wish Trump would stop hogging all the secksie!

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    • Mr. Nice Guy
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 3:10pm

      Another classic, Hawt!

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    • fixer
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 8:31pm

      ALLEN WEST in 2012!

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  • trooper
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:49pm

    I BO party does not care one bit about the future of the country they only care about getting reelected and stuffing enough gold away to live like kings when they retire, screw the rest of us.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:48pm

    @Looking Both Ways:

    If I get what Bachmann is trying to get across is the point of Accountability and Responsibility.

    The American people stood by while the reports came out of the holocaust during the war; and in some cases before we even got involved. So it is with this economy and our failure to reign in the government and its out of control spending and debt. Those who are not doing anything about it will be accountable to explain why they chose to do nothing.

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  • chiefparker
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:47pm

    Ba Ba Baby com’on, To chicken to make your own statement and expose a reply button

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  • mrtinbender
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:47pm

    ba ba wake up the gop “leaders” are just as bade as the dems it takes bachmann palin and the likes to get them off there collective dead asses, and do what is rite for the country, not sit around and wondder if the press is going to like what they say or not,,just wished more had the same balls as these two women do

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  • LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:45pm

    O Hitler again …. gee the guy is more popular then Jesus

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  • burned at edges
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:45pm

    @GDAVIDH….I think I will donate to Bachmanns campaign:)

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:44pm

    Bachmann is right on this point though, there will come a time when the next generation will ask why we did nothing, if indeed nothing gets done, to reign in the government, the deficit and the debt. What excuse will be given to the destruction of the economy and the future of generations for the expense of one right now?

    The holocaust was reported in the nation while it was ongoing; it is amazing the silence met by the people of this nation, just as many Germans claimed not to know what their own government was in the process of doing.

    A lesson for everyone to learn…again.

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  • lovenfl3
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:41pm

    Michelle is one of the most conservative of the candidates. I like her, and hope she does well in the primaries. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCUYPR00D5A

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  • excelizen (a goal, not a title!)
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:39pm

    Slavery would have been my choice of analogies. We are enslaving our youth to the debt.

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    • Hawt'n'secksie
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:43pm

      But that would be racist.

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    • Mr. Nice Guy
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 3:07pm

      Good point, Hawt. I’ll always pick the anti-semite over the racist.

      (just a joke, and not a very good one at that)

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    • bikerr
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 3:25pm

      @Hawt‘n’secksie—Only if the slaves were black.

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  • John 1776
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:37pm

    Her analogy is not that far off. Millions will die due to a destroyed standard of living and a destroyed health care system. Starvation will abound due to the dollar being worthless. Millions more will turn to drugs and alcohol to numb their existence, as they did in the old soviet union. We are living in the last great days unless there is a drastic awakening. Currently, I see little chance of that happening with our elected officials.

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  • Jediusetheforce
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:36pm

    Entering the workforce to get a job? Better start bringing jobs back to the USA. Or there is going to be a problem in 5-6 years. The biggest problem is going to be just finding a job. Take a step back before just assuming that there will be a job just waiting.

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  • KL
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:34pm

    THIS is what the liberals do ALL the time, I’m glad to see a conservative using the same tactics. GOOD FOR HER!! She made her point very well, which is, WHY didn’t anyone stop BOTH events? She is right!

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    • Ba Ba Booey
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:40pm

      nice, so Bachman is implying similarity between the Holocaust and our current tax policy…you are coming right out and saying they are equally horrific. I assume the “L” in your username doesn’t stand for Leibowitz

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    • Psychosis
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:51pm

      Ba Ba Booey
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:40pm

      nice, so Bachman is implying similarity between the Holocaust and our current tax policy…you are coming right out and saying they are equally horrific. I assume the “L” in your username doesn’t stand for Leibowitz

      NO, SHE IS IMPLYING OUR SPENDING POLICIES WILL RESULT IN A SIMILAR HORRIFIC END

      your not that good of a troll please try harder

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    • Ba Ba Booey
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 4:11pm

      that is exactly what I thought. The holocaust and our tax policy don’t compare, ask a jew

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    • Mgindi26
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 9:44pm

      Ok let’s be clear she did not compare the holocaust to the economy or taxes.what she is comparing is the inaction of people when shown evidence of an impending break in history. How when people have a chance to do something to prevent a problem in the future and don’t take that action future generations will and do ask why was nothing done when it could have been prevented.
      As a jew I find nothing offensive I’m her remarks. And she made it clear that she wasn’t computing taxes to the death of millions.

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    • tifosa
      Posted on May 1, 2011 at 3:11am

      Incomparable on any level. Mouth, meet brain, and when you think of making a Holocaust analogy STOP!

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  • chiefparker
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:34pm

    I’m already speaking to my 12 yr old granddaughter about this. She understands the U S Constitution better than most teachers in this country. I know this because she’s already asking (the why) questions.
    Does your child know what a despot is? The Constitution doesn’t make it easy to remove a despot or reverse course. So yes this is a generational fight.

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    • Ba Ba Booey
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:38pm

      our constitution doesn’t make it easy to remove a despot…umm…they are called elections every four years. You don’t like what Obama is doing, run a SERIOUS candidate against him

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    • chiefparker
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:53pm

      I don‘t think we’ll have to run a serious candidate. The Big O has already opened his mouth (such as you) and removed all doubt…

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    • DADA
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 3:11pm

      Any candidate facing Obama gets my vote.

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    • bikerr
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 3:23pm

      @ Ba Booey— you posted–our constitution doesn’t make it easy to remove a despot…umm…they are called elections every four years. You don’t like what Obama is doing, run a SERIOUS candidate against him.—-If you want to tell us who to run for president then let us tell you who to run, other wise shut your pie hole! you know nothing about a good candidate.

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    • Ba Ba Booey
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 4:10pm

      as a democrat I would be most fearful of Christie, I think he is your only shot…everyone else is a charicatures of Reps.

      F off Bikerr

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    • bikerr
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 4:40pm

      @Ba Ba Booey—I guess shut your pie hole wasn’t strong enough.Let me repeat, You don’t know nothing about a good candidate.

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    • earthrise
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 11:14pm

      Not a one of you understand….. the Constitution DOES give Us a way to rid ourselves of “despots/usurpers”…. The sad thing is that our “Justice” branch does not have any “UNITS”.

      The media, our “representatives” and our justice sections have been co-opted and now we have a usurper in the Executive Branch. HIS “Birth Certificate” IDENTIFIES Him as a DUAL-CITIZEN (Through His Father) thus NOT QUALIFIED FOR THE OFFICE that he currently holds……

      The ONLY reason why he’s in “power” is because people like Nazi Pelosi AND Whorehouse Harry Reid (among others……) FREAKIN’ ALLOWED Herr Dipstick to get as far as he did…… They ARE complicit[sic] and Should be charged with TREASON. I even wonder why McCain didn’t challenge the situation considering how much “swamp water” he had to wade through in order to be declared “Natural Born” by the Senate….. A Congressional Resolution that obozo SPONSORED AND SIGNED OFF ON….. (hello kettle, this is pot.)

      I don’t know about you lot…… when my kids ask Me; “What Did You Do?…….” I’ll be able to tell them about how I Questioned the “Usurper” from the beginning…. and “tweaked” some last nerves along the way.

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  • crackerone
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:33pm

    Oh Boy!

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  • Ba Ba Booey
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:33pm

    usalvageable – most people aren’t like Bachman because most people are not bat sh&^ crazy

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  • Cherynn
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:32pm

    Paying 75% of your income to taxes so that everything can be FREE???? People are just stupid anymore. This is a sink or swim moment for America.

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    • Ba Ba Booey
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:37pm

      nobody in our country pays 75% of their income in Federal taxes…not even close

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    • Psychosis
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:49pm

      @ ba ba booey

      your not too bright are you ………………noone said anyone is paying 75% of their income in taxes ……….they said the way things are going, there is a very good chance the NEXT GENERATION will

      i know…………..thinking is hard

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    • Silversmith
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:50pm

      @bla bla booey Not today — But they have!!! Do your homework.

      Silversmith

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    • and to the republic
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:56pm

      TROLL alert…Don’t feed the troll….

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    • chiefparker
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 3:11pm

      I’ll take the troll challenge. I was on the debate team before I entered service where we settled the argument by other means.

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    • and to the republic
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 3:24pm

      @ cherynn: just to be clear, I agree with your sink or swim comment. Not in my lifetime did I think the USA could fall to where we are. I guess I always had the “all great nations eventually fall” thought in the back of my head, but I never thought it would happen. But here we are…..

      again, do not feed the trolls cause they get exactly what they want with your response….

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    • Watchdog826
      Posted on May 2, 2011 at 8:35am

      She said in the futurer maybe paying 75%

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  • GdavidH
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:32pm

    @BURNED, I could not be happier for you. How will you celebrate?

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  • Hawt'n'secksie
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:30pm

    Snow Leopard is going to go half cat-half lady on you if you don’t step back in line.

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  • burned at edges
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:29pm

    I have thought along those lines before, but she will be vilified by the left for actually making the comparison. I love the fact that she doesn’t pull any punches, the left doesn’t.

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    • Ba Ba Booey
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:36pm

      Look at what has become of my old Republican Party…look at the candidates, Bachman, Palin, Trump…my God, get someone serious, with serious policy positions and let’s go.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:46pm

      @Ba Ba Booey:

      That is why with what the Republicans have become the choice is simple for the old guard that will no longer do what the people want:

      a. Change.
      b. Get out of our way.

      That simple.

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    • and to the republic
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:55pm

      please do not put the name Trump and the word Republican in the same sentence. 2 weeks of Trump at the helm and we will all be wishing Carter would come back…

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:58pm

      @And To the Republic:

      Actually I figure about 24 hours or less.

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    • mrtinbender
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 3:37pm

      why is it that only the females in the gop tell it like it is,,maybe they are much more fearless than the good ole boys

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    • OlefromMN
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 4:42pm

      @mrtinbender

      Michele Bachmann sure doesn’t need to learn to fight like a girl! West/Bachmann 2012. So help me god if Pawlenty or some other milktoast candidate gets the nomination, I will write in West/Bachmann.

      Mr. Allen West, consider yourself 1-A

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    • AmeriCat
      Posted on April 30, 2011 at 10:22pm

      What is Beck trying to do….look at how he focuses on candidates.

      The only one left standing will be…RINO John Huntsman, Jr.
      Son of Beck’s best friend, Huntsman, Sr.

      Oops…………..!
      The Truth has no agenda???

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  • riseandshine
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:27pm

    Chrissy Mathews is chompin at the bit

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  • Revere1
    Posted on April 30, 2011 at 2:25pm

    You can bet the lamestream media is going to hit Bachmann for this one. http://www.elephantwatcher.com/2011/04/what-about-bachmann.html

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