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AP Blasts Democrats: Obama Refuses to Admit He Wants to Raise Taxes

WASHINGTON (AP) — Call it eliminating an unfair break, or removing an unjust loophole, or even “taking a balanced approach.” Just don’t call it raising taxes.

As they work toward a must-do deal with Republicans on paring trillions from the deficit in order to raise the nation’s debt limit, President Barack Obama and Democrats are saying almost anything to avoid the politically toxic pronouncement that they want to increase taxes.

Republicans, for their part, are just as quick to declare elimination of the most rarefied corporate benefit a job-killing tax hike on the American people.

It’s all about winning the public relations debate over the debt limit, and in turn, perhaps, gaining a more politically advantageous outcome in the resulting deal itself.

“We‘re at a point where there’s no good tax,” said Joseph J. Thorndike, director of the Tax History Project at the nonprofit group Tax Analysts. “The sort of value proposition of a tax has been destroyed, so nobody wants to say it, nobody wants to say in any fashion that they support it except, because it polls well, taxing the rich.”

Taxes are hardly the only issue going through the partisan spin cycle – and emerging virtually unrecognizable – as the days tick down to an Aug. 2 deadline to raise the federal government’s borrowing limit or face unprecedented default. Take Social Security. Obama is insisting he won’t agree to “slash” benefits – a vague word the White House refuses to define, thus leaving room for benefits to be cut without ever saying it.

Then there’s the debt limit itself. Listen to Republicans, and the whole problem was created by out-of-control spending that now demands to be addressed. Democrats, on the other hand, are more likely to cast the issue as a question of whether or not the U.S. will make good on its obligations.

But it’s on taxes that the rhetoric is the most heated, and the most skewed. Analysts say that in recent decades Republicans have largely succeeded in turning taxes into a dirty word, and the government it pays for is increasingly viewed with disfavor, too. So that even while voters like some of the taxpayer-funded services they get – like Social Security – arguing in favor of taxes per se is a nonstarter.

For opponents, “it’s an easy argument to win because nobody wants to pay higher taxes,” said Brendan Daly, former spokesman to House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi and now a public relations executive at Ogilvy Washington.

Proposals under consideration include raising taxes on small business owners and potentially low- and middle-income families. You won’t hear about that from Obama. Instead the president focuses on the very rich, and speaks euphemistically. Here are a few of the phrases the president has used of late to talk about what amounts to raising taxes for some:

- “What we need to do is to have a balanced approach where everything is on the table.”

-”We need to take on spending in the tax code.”

-”The tax cuts I’m proposing we get rid of are tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires; tax breaks for oil companies and hedge fund managers and corporate jet owners.”

-”You can’t reduce the deficit to the levels that it needs to be reduced without having some revenue in the mix.”

And here’s how Republicans respond:

-”Tax hikes on families and job creators would only make things worse.” – House Speaker John Boehner.

-”The focus for us is to make sure that we are not increasing taxes on individuals who are the job creators, and like it or not, the job creators are those who can be successful in a small business context.” – House Majority Leader Eric Cantor.

-”Democrats seem to think the solution to our debt crisis is to ask taxpayers and struggling businesses to reward their economic stewardship with even more money to spend as they please.” – Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

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  • dancing bear
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:22am

    Just kick the can down the road Its just a game to them they have to much power and money to care about a little thing like the deficit. Im sure obama is mad becouse Its cutting in to his golf game and campaigning.Just tax the rich seems to be the liberials war cry like thats going to fix all our problems. Our government is failing us they are starting to become a parasite fitting right in with our entitlement programs.

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  • GRAMPA-D-NH
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:19am

    If tax increases are definately a deal breaker, why is Boehner and the Repubs going to the table?

    In recent years, these superficial last minute deals negotiated in crisis, setting tax policy for a year or two and spending “cuts”, (yeah right) over the long term has drained confidence from business leaders. The long battle on the margins for the soul of this country has revealed there are strong forces which are progressively regulating, taxing, and spending us into a socialistic morass. The most the repubs have been able to do is blunt the pace and get an occassional tax cut for a year or two. It doesn’t work. Its not fooling anyone with any capital and job creating capability. Obummer has turned caution and distrust in this group to outright anger and rebellion. Obamacare, his selective waivers, blocking Boeing from opening a business in SC, the moratorium on drilling, his determination to get Crap and Traitor via the EPA, his never ending insistance of taking more taxes from the productive economy, etc. etc. Job creators are staying on the sidelines.

    The only “Big Deal” repubs should have on the table is the Ryan plan combined with a dramatically simplified tax code ie flat tax, much lower corporate taxes, and dismantling the oppressive regulations. These changes should be locked in for at least a decade if not permanently. I think businesses expansion and private sector job creation would be enormous. We don’t need another “comprimise” with soci

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    • thegrassroots
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 10:06am

      I agree! Boehner needs to draw the line in the sand, now, and walk away and force BHO to walk over it. Boehner and Cantor don’t have the backbone. Those two need to stand down and let Bachmann and Ryan take over.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 10:16am

      What the Dems twist is the fact that the tax cuts hurt the middle class. If you take away “loop holes” you’ll be hurting the middle class. Loop holes would include the marriage break, credit for chidren, child care when you have to work, etc. Sometimes I think the Dems are so pro-gay, they’d just as soon not have any tax breaks for children at all.

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  • JamesR
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:14am

    I for one do not trust BO in anything he says and that goes for all of his side-kicks too. America will get better when BO is back in Chicago helping Rahm organize the southside community.

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 11:14pm

      I don’t trust Obama either. He is an avowed liar. If Boehner gives in, obama will raise taxes the first chance he gets. Liar, liar. Can’t believe him. Speaker Boehner, stand firm. Walk away if he doesn’t give in. Make your office as speaker count.

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  • angelcat
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:08am

    II’m still in shock over “AP Blasts Obama.” Ap usually covers for hin.

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  • LIBSALWAYSLIE
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:07am

    Libs want to raise taxes because they are running out of money to give away to the non contributors.

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    • MIBUGNU2
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 11:56pm

      Some of the Media finally seeing the light, there is HOPE..
      Bama’s had free reign to that cookie jar to long, he has
      to know by now that the damn thing is empty………….and
      now he want’s the rich to give him more cookies,

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  • WhatIf
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:03am

    “So that even while voters like some of the taxpayer-funded services they get – like Social Security” – Who says we voters like SS. Let us stop sending our dollars to this ill conceived federal entitlement and tomorrow it would be gone.

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  • SheriS
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:02am

    Been around this country for many years and long ago learned the hard way, the only thing Dummycrats want to do is raise taxes! This was true not matter what—if things are going well, they want to raise taxes on everyone—if things are in a disaster state, they still want to raise taxes! Our current group are just following the same pattern of years of Democrat stupidity! Learned that the day I quit teaching when the unions took over our schools and killed the quality school systems we used to have! Dummycrats have a motto—“never too few taxes and to hell with jobs”–you work for us!

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  • MontyRay
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:02am

    The spin on this is that Republicans and Conservatives (I like to keep those two descriptions separate) hate all taxes and have killed the value proposition for taxes. It is simply not true. They believe that increasing the tax burden is not the solution to the current problem. That is a distinctly different argument. Dems are trying to confuse the two (notice I didn’t separate Dems and Liberals–not necessary).
    The argument the former are making is simple: We don’t have tax issue, we have a spending and growth issue. Budgets and spending have been grossly out of control for a very long time, and the only way to increase revenues to the government at this point is to assist growth in the economy. That means stripping strangling regulation, competing with the rest of the world on corporate base tax, and changing government’s attitude toward businesses in general. Combined with that should be entitlement reform that reforms in a way that brings balance to self reliance and the safety net. Spend less! make more! Is it really that difficult?
    I don’t know about dems, but if I needed more revenue, I would find out how to get my suppliers the easiest access possible to that revenue resource so that they can continue to keep giving me that revenue.

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  • GoldenSage
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:00am

    People just can‘t seem to look into Obama’s past for anything. He plays on words more so than Bill Clinton. And, he has lied so much and have has gone back on his words several times, yet, people can’t seem to remember. He has such an image of a family man, but he plays golf more than he seems to be with his family…can‘t even remember his daughter’s birthday, go figure. What hype! He has never shown any caring for the people…e.g. have we forgotten his reaction to the BP oil spill. People just can’t to get it…Obama is a “Chicago” politician, plain and simple. Daley would be proud…and so would Al Capone. “Look into a man’s past to find the man.”

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  • jim
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:57am

    I’m SHOCKED that the AP is actually criticizing Obama on, of all things, the most Democrat-liberal political plank of all time… raising our taxes, in order to spend more!! Please, call the AP immediately and see if they haven’t lost their minds. If critizing Obama becomes a trend among lefty news orgs, the earth may spin off its axis.

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    • awizard
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:13am

      Let me guess, the “reply function” is disabled again … Did anyone else notice comments are now displayed by default “newest to oldest” … It makes no sense to read random disjointed rants and proclamations without the ability to respond. Criticize, agree with, or add to … Why would you want to start with the last comment with out knowing what came earlier in the “conversations” we have in here?..

      The stories start the exchanges we have, but then we used to build on them … I suppose TheBlaze now just wants “random babble” and unchecked/corrected proclamations … I‘ll check back from time to time to see if it’s restored, but for now, I’m out of here …

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    • awizard
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:18am

      Well, I guess I spoke too soon, I apologize for my error … and beg forgiveness for my quick jump to conclusions without more research …

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    • fancydancy
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 9:05am

      AWIZARD…there is a box at the start that allows you to change newest to oldest or oldest to newest that you can change that will fix the problem you are describing so people may choose which way they want to read. If you have been following a story over a period of days, you don’t want to have to scroll through all the first posts.

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  • amuzed_right_guy
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:57am

    Funny isn’t it, how so many Americans are ever so excited about raising taxes on their neighbors, but aren’t wiling to pay moe in taxes themselves? Also pretty selfish to demand social security and mdicare benefits that exceed the paltry “contributions” more tha half the participants kick in themselves, once agan expectng one’s neghbors to pick up the dfference. Whtever hppened to John Kennedy’s exhortation to”ask not what your country can do for you,but what can you do for your country?” This pesident and his party are playing crass partisan politics and are engaged in the most destructive form of class warfare America has ever seen. Looks like the Democrat Party has morphed into a toxic mob seeking to impose their ugly version of neo-marxism on the rest of us. This citizen prefers to leave economic and most other decisons up to the individual and not up to this over-reaching big government regime. The freedoms we sacrifce for the false “security” and “social justice” promised by the great deceiver in the oval ofice were paid for in the blood of our fathers, and once lost, will be gone forever.

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    • Marci
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 9:09am

      Fed up with our government. They take in ENOUGH to manage what they have but because they “need” more to pay off unions, cronies, and any other special interest you can think of, here we go again. While our politicians “compromise” with OUR money, they keep infusing a fresh injection of class warfare into the mainstream of slobbering, ill-informed, foaming-at-the-mouth supporters who have decided they want what they want, and want it NOW, and it will be GIVEN to them. Time to pink slip some people and quick. Why do people NOT take their votes seriously? We can’t dethrone them until another election cycle which means when you check that box, you better have some convictions. You are voting on who will spend your money and HOW. If you are too clueless to know their habits out of either sheer laziness to turn off the tv and do some research or you have a partisan grudge, we really wish you would stay out of the voting booth. Because you are also equally too clueless to know that the “stick it to em” mentality lands squarely in your court as well, your vote for a lying black liberation theologian will not render you immune.

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  • Delta_River_Folk
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:56am

    BOLD, OUT of the BOX solution to our Nation’s Fiscal Policy is right in front of us:

    1) Shift a large percentage of Washington D.C.’s spending habits BACK to individual States (e.g., Health and Human Services, Housing, Education, Energy, Agriculture, Labor, Social Security, etc..)

    2) Stop all tax collection by the Federal Government, and mandate that only individual States shall collect taxes from citizens (as originally outlined in the Constitution and upheld by the Supreme court on multiple occasions in the past)

    3) Individual States will provide Washington D.C. with enough money to cover the spending not delegated to individual States above in Step (1) (e.g., National Defense, Foreign Diplomacy, those items originally outlined in the Constitution)

    4) Set Back and watch: States grow, Washington D.C. corruption slow down, backroom deals disappear, and our Nation prosper

    Remember we are called the United States, not the United State

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    • Neo Con John
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:49am

      Spoken like a True American Delta,
      better watch your P‘s and Q’s buddy,
      Or you’ll end up on an obbamma watch list.
      Your not suppose to make that much sense

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  • maryjanesuncle
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:55am

    Obama…is magic..he is like a superhero..he will be the ONLY politician to ever spend their way out of debt…and then with his powers he will pull a rabbit out of his butt and name it Nancy..TA DA

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  • LovinUSA
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:52am

    It’s just plain called; “beating around the bush” distracting those idiot Americans while your team conjurs up a new way to to undermine them.

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  • streetrodder
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:44am

    Did‘nt Obozo’s entire staff get raises? How’s he going to pay all these people with tax cuts.

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    • fastfacts
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:55am

      NO… ONLY 75% OF HIS STAFF GOT RAISES…

      Here is a video fact check on the propaganda filled Twitter Townhall of Obama’s: http://tiny.cc/ojcio

      As for the debt ceiling talks, Obama is contradicting himself. He said you can’t raise taxes during a poor economy… HYPOCRITE: http://tiny.cc/vnjxe

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  • Islesfordian
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:43am

    “Analysts say that in recent decades Republicans have largely succeeded in turning taxes into a dirty word”

    When exactly was taxes NOT a negative concept?

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    • hauschild
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:38am

      It‘s the repub’s answer to the loser left’s battle cry of “Tossing Granny off the cliff”.

      The reason why it worked for repubs is that “in the old days”, the vast majority of Americans worked and paid taxes. Now, while a majority of Americans work, only 55% pay taxes. So, you’ve 45% with no skin in the game.

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  • TelepromoterNChief
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:42am

    I do not get how people have or continue to fall for this FOOL.

    The guy DOES NOT have the America’s best interest in mind.

    More often than not, what he does is hurtful to the country. The simple-minded fools clammor for the small unfilling scraps that fall in their direction.

    Consider who and what he panders to that still “believe(s)” in his bull****.

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  • Skippy Toes
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:42am

    If I hear or see the phrase “millonaires and billionaires” one more time coming out of the mouths of millionaires and billionaires,I”m gonna’ barf.

    P.s. I’M NOT A MILLIONAIRE OR BILLIONAIRE.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:06am

      Class warfare and the race card is all that they have

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    • ishka4me
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:36am

      I once believed the hogwash Rush has said about low taxes on rich increases revenu. Heard several conservative economists say there is no data. if Paul Ryan can spend $350 on a bottle of wine maybe the rich need to have their taxes raised. There is a wide divide between rich and poor and the rich are getting richer and the middle class is disappearing. i see these rich spewnd more on a weekend getaway then i will earn in a life time. If the data doesn’t support it, it hurts the economy, why do we still listen to unsupported arguments from Rush.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:41am

      Is speaking euphemistically another word for “lying out of his a$$?”

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    • The_Almighty_Creestof
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:47am

      I’ve heard Rush complain about the unfair raising of taxes on the rich and how we should all pay the same tax percentages. I agree it is unfair…to a point.

      When it comes right down to it though, if you raised taxes for everyone to 75%, Rush would still be making Millions each year and I would be making 12 thousand. He might have to give up his private jet and stop flying all over the country just to play golf…but I’d be living in the street and/or starving.

      Of course he has the right to make all that he does, and I ahve the right to become a millionaire like everyone else does in the USA…but reality is reality. If the government HAS to have more funds, should it be fair and put people in the street…or take someones jet away?

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    • TX VOL
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:49am

      @ishka4me
      Conservative economists show there is no data? How about Regan’s presidency? Where taxes were the lowest they’d been in 40 years and tax revenues were the highest?

      Seems like pretty good data to me.

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    • seeker9
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:55am

      Skippy, if you have ever made $250K you ARE a millionaire. (I would add “corproate jet” to your word list.)

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    • Talik
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:56am

      Amazing a guy spends his hard earned money on a 350 dollar anything and some people think that they are entitled to his money because it cost more than they would pay. I wonder if this person saying PR should not buy a 350 dollar bottle of wine has a car? How about a TV? How about a refrigerator. I bet all those things cost more than 350 dollars. Should PR not buy those things as well? I mean where do you people get off telling anyone how they can spend thier money? Really? Why not just take 100 percent of everything and make us all slaves to you? You think you have a better judgement on how we should spend our money.

      Democrats = Communists = Socialism… all the same you think that money is yours to spend well its not I refuse to be a slave to marxist ideology. Get over yourself if someone has money they spend it how they want it.

      Believe it or not someone had to bottle the wine. Someone had to make the bottle. Someone had to get the sand for the bottle. Someone had to pick the grapes. Someone had to place that mixture into a vat. Someone had to poor it in a bottle. If its done by machine, someone had to create and build it.

      Hence the 350 dollar bottle of wine… EMPLOYES A LOT OF PEOPLE.

      Wake up and stop eating democratic cake…

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    • Delta_River_Folk
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 9:49am

      Unfortunately, I think I have come to the conclusion that humans cannot govern themselves. Our society is a perfect example. We have one group that are givers and one group that are takers. When the takers can force the givers to give even more then our system of government is broke. Having a majority rule over others is not always a good thing.

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    • obscurity
      Posted on July 12, 2011 at 1:36am

      @TX VOL They were the lowest at the time, and Reagan smartly got rid of some loopholes, but ended up raising taxes in attempts to reduce the deficit. Our current tax rates are even lower than the Reagan tax rates. Besides the top tax bracket, our tax rates are the lowest they’ve ever been since 1950. The top tax bracket had gone up 7% in 2003 from its lowest rate in 1988, but for the vast majority of us, we’re paying extremely low taxes, in comparison to the last several decades.

      ● http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/08/news/economy/reagan_years_taxes/index.htm
      ● http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jun/29/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-tax-rates-are-lowest-1950s-ceos-/

      I think a new top tax bracket needs to be defined. It’s currently a 6-digit figure. It’s absurd that a family making $400K would pay the same tax percentage as multi-millionaires and billionaires. I mean, seriously? Obviously, the “top” should be the TOP. Corporate loopholes need to be nixed. Giant U.S. corporations hardly paying any taxes while making billions of dollars here? Clearly, this is a problem. I think taxes need to be raised on the right people/businesses and lowered on the right people/businesses. Call me a class warfare-r, I don’t care. The middle class are totally falling apart right now.

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  • tom
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:41am

    Obama won’t admit to anything, that way, he and the demon-rats can blame Bush! Vote them out in 2012.

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  • Steve Neiling
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:38am

    I wonder what would happen if one of my children maxed out his credit card and drained his savings to support his car payments, cell phone bill, etc and then came to me asking for a loan. I’d tell him to get rid of the phone, etc and work to pay down his debt. Same with the fed gov’t. Default is being used politically. What, they can’t prioritize who they make payments to? Service the debt first, then disburse monies to the other departments along the priorities of importance and utility.
    It’s what any level-headed citizen would do, right?

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:46am

      STEVE I hope you agree that spending money on endless wars
      will also run the credit card up.

      The problem is Ron Paul is the only candidate consistently
      agaist spending Money on foreign wars and conflicts.
      NEO Cons this Missiles and drones are free……

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:03am

      TOWER7FEMACAMP to bad RP 15% Kook & he is too old.. And “some” of his supporters are code-pinko obnoxious.

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    • Eyore
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:20am

      They don’t want to have to make any tough decisions

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  • DetritusScreener
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:37am

    The Tea Party Republicans need to hold their ground and not allow for a debt limit increase. Obama and the Democrats will be forced to make the cuts to Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security regardless once the deadline passes. The cuts have to be made at that point and there isn’t anything anyone can do about it. It seems it is going to be the only way to get our country to function within its means. It will be a hard hit, but I don’t think we would let it happen again.

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:43am

      The problem, as I see it, is that everything is treated as a ‘public relations problem’ instead of a ‘problem for the public’. Raising taxes on our business would be a killer as we are just at the point of hiring another person, and I’m sure this would effect other businesses as well. It needs to be treated as a ‘personal problem’ and the GOP must stand its ground! Lower taxes and reduce the deficit.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:34am

    .
    I wish we could make him grab his ankles for a change……….

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  • tower7femacamp
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:33am

    WE need a %5 tax on all assets held around the world by US citizens
    for everything over 20 Million dollars.

    But both parties work for the Rich so get ready to have your SSI that you have already paid into
    to be cut instead because the billionaires are the ruling party.

    and we have dumb slaves that will fight to protect assets over 20 Million
    maybe they are too dumb to count that high

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    • BarCalliyon
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:43am

      Are you going to pay an additional 5% as well? Or are you one of those that just wants to use other peoples money instead of proving your point and using your own?

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    • BSdetector
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:51am

      No, we need to NOT SPEND LIKE DRUNKEN SAILORS… We don’t need ANY more tax revenue. Slash spending by 75% and taxes by 25% until the debt is paid down, then cut the remaining 50% of taxes.

      No entitlements(you choose how/if you want to save for retirement), no foreign aid(or UN funding), no subsidies, and we would only need a tiny fraction of our current revenue.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:56am

      see I knew I would hear this.
      Warren Buffet pays %17 in taxes
      what do you pay ?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu5B-2LoC4s

      Dumb slaves are really under mind control
      we have NO HOPE to save the Republic
      with a country full of dumbed down morons

      Capitol gains tax at %15 for people like GS ceo and
      Hedgefund managers

      good little Goy

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:59am

      BarCalliyon No I don’t have to pay
      my net worth is only 19.9 million.

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    • Coralchristie
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:02am

      Don’t agree with the tax but do agree that we have both parties have a problem….they’re Constitutionally deficient! They both spend our money like drunken sailors, they both forge legislation that they think will get them votes (power) and they both lie, lie, lie. There are some newbies… individual members that are, as yet, not part of the corrupt power structure and who are fighting for all Americans. We should support and encourage them. Congress will never be able to tax, restrict or legislate enough to fund their voracious spending. Millionaires are already “giving” most. Forty percent of us pay nothing! When sixty per cent of the population supports themselves and the other forty percent….that’s wrong. These politicians are way corrupt and think nothing of our liberty. We should not be legislating redistribution of wealth. We should stop the constant spending and pull back enough to allow this people to once more become independent and free.

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    • NEAF
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:05am

      You sound like a rookie socialist. Taking from someone else, because they are parasites. Omama is like a Robin Hood story. But the problem will be when Robin Hood become king.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:05am

      BSDETECTER you %100 correct we need to stop spending

      But I am telling you we will not. and the slaves will pay higher taxes
      like we always do while the rich suck us dry like they always
      do.

      Do you support the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan so too be Libya and Iran ?

      Do you think all those bombs we dropped are free ?
      Does that help the working slaves or the mega rich who are pirating profiteers ?

      you blazers can‘t have it both ways if you don’t want taxes then really cut things
      and quit just moving money from point A to point B…

      Ron Paul will cut spending to the Bone.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:21am

      NEAF I see your Brainwashing is now complete
      2 = 2 =

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    • seeker9
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:33am

      Do you know that you get the 15% tax rate if you invest long term?

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    • Talik
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 9:08am

      Class warefare at its best. Because a guy makes money he must be like a squirl. He takes his money and hides it away.

      Most people spend money. Rich people spend A LOT OF MONEY. That money which is spent then employs many people. Rich mans house = employment for…

      Roofers, Siders, Carpetlayers, cabinetmen, drywall hangers, electricians, guys and gals that make:
      Roofing, Siding, Carpet, Lumberjacks, Miners, people making electical items, landscapers…

      Government employees based on the excesive tax revenue from the house…. Teachers, firemen, policemen, union thugs…

      That is just from his house. I hear people complaining about jets they own.. same thing..

      Basically THEY EMPLOY A LOT OF PEOPLE..

      Get over your small minded mentality and realize that even when they are not directly employing people they are employing people through purchase.

      Rich people have some money on hand yes but if they want to STAY rich, they have to invest it.

      Democratic cake eaters.

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    • Talik
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 9:13am

      Working slaves… LOL what a joke.

      They get paid to work if they do not like the pay GET ANOTHER JOB. Your class warefar is just jealousy because you want what they have.

      Its like a child squaking about not having the same toys as all the kids in the neighborhood and having to live within his own means.

      So this child becomes a bully and takes every kids toy and decided who gets to play with what toy.

      The ego on the democrats is amazing.

      Take take take and dole out on their benovlence.

      Give me a break, rich means employing a lot of people. You do not like it become rich or move to China. I am sure you would love a place where you cannot say jack and you do not get to keep what you make. The government controls it all.

      Democrats think that working for a corporation is somehow slavery. Because they have no idea what slavery is.

      Slavery is working for the government because with a company you can quite and go someplace else. With a government they take you out and shoot you.

      Democratic Cake eaters.

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  • benrush
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:31am

    And after we tax the rich out of existence, what then? Sell off our land to the Chinese? How much debt is too much? How much unfunded liability do we have to take on before we take our head out of the sand and realize the our country has been taken to the cleaners by those we trusted to lead?

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:09am

      China already has the deeds to our land
      you don’t think they invested Billions with out Collateral
      do you ?
      And those Rich that Ben protects are the ones pulling the strings
      NAFTA GATT and the destruction of our freedom was and is being orchestrated
      by Ben’s rich friends at the Bilderberg meetings.

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  • benrush
    Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:29am

    Obama talks like Orwell. Can’t be trusted – very glib. Very propaganda driven. Hypnotic effect on demoralized people. Classic use of persuasion and extreme selling. Good at what does: Deception.

    We the people must inoculate ourselves against indoctination and educate our children to accept the responsibility for their own lives and lessen our dependence upon the totalitarian government to bail us out.

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    • Professional Infidel
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:44am

      Eithor this guy’s memorey is shot, or his tongue is forked!! “I will reduce the Natl. Debt in 2 years” Dingo Head Obozo cerca 2009

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:53am

      Indeed Mr Obama is engaging in the old art of Deception – and very well at that too.

      I honestly feel, and it is just my own oppinion, that he WANTS the economy to tank, the debt to be defaulted upon, and then the situation is an event for the Fed and administration to sweep in to be saving the nation – he consolidates power firmly in his hands and the POTUS office, is able to now openly bypass Congress (via the lame excuse of the 14th Amerndment false interpretation in regard to the national debt) and become the dictator in all but name.

      He has worked and nudged, and shoved the nation in his ‘fundamental transformation’ since he took the office, and it is nearly completed. This may be the obvious, plain in sight move he is making and that no one is seeing due to it being so open.
      http://artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm

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    • SpankDaMonkey
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 7:58am

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      Obama talks like Orwell. No he talks like someone with his head so far up his behind he’s in another zip code……..

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    • NOBALONEY
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:00am

      One of Glenn’s warnings, “watch the other hand”.

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    • BIGJAYINPA
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:02am

      How do you know when a politician is lying?? Why their lips are moving of course. FIRE THEM ALL!!! All 535 of of these lying cheating scoundrels must be replaced and replaced now.. I know some will say that there are one or two good ones in the bunch and IF that is true they will survive to run another day. But ALL of them have got to go NOW. We were never meant to have a permanant ruling class to run our affairs. The Founders meant for citizen legislators to serve one or two terms and then return to private life. Politics was not to be a FULL TIME job…Just sayin’

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    • vincere vel mori
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:15am

      Thank you sir may I have another, this bastage thinks we like to be punished. Whats next, the success tax? The breath tax, because we do exhale CO2 everytime we breath and of course its bad for the environment.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 8:18am

      And in my case, show our still living grandparents that the system they have voted towards their whole life is truly a Ponzi scheme that has been used to baloon the federal budget under the guise of social security and that they have been had over by the government for far too long. This task has proved nearly as hard as forcing a horse to drink.

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