WASHINGTON (AP) — Almost half the country opposes tax increases for the richest Americans, according to a poll suggesting that congressional Democrats are taking some risk by backing President Barack Obama’s plan to boost levies on the wealthy.
Less than 50 days from elections that Republicans hope will hand them control of Congress, The Associated Press-GfK Poll is stuffed with encouraging signs for the GOP. Huge majorities call the economy sickly and say Congress is doing its job badly.
By a 46 percent to 41 percent margin, people want Republicans steering the economy — the first GOP edge on that runaway No. 1 concern of voters in the AP-GfK poll.
And while Americans are evenly split over whether they prefer their district’s Democratic or GOP congressional candidate, those likeliest to vote tilt toward the Republicans, 53 percent to 43 percent.
“Nothing’s getting done,” said Lisa Grimm, 52, an independent from Chagrin Falls, Ohio, who like most in the poll said she is frustrated and disgusted with Washington politics. “Issues aren’t being solved.”
In a glimmer of hope for Democrats, the poll indicated that far from infatuated with the Republicans, the public is wary of both parties. Slightly more than half have an unfavorable view of each party, and about six in 10 disapprove of how each is handling the economy.
The survey showed that by 54 percent to 44 percent, most people support raising taxes on the highest earners, an issue that Obama and other top Democrats have thought could define their campaign-season differences with Republicans. Obama sought to capitalize on that edge Wednesday, accusing Republicans of holding tax cuts for the middle class “hostage” to force tax breaks for the wealthy.
“These are the same families who will suffer the most when their taxes go up next year,” Obama said of middle-income earners, adding, “We don’t have time for any more games.”
Even so, the poll underscored the political pickle Democrats face in the tax fight. With broad tax reductions enacted under President George W. Bush expiring at year’s end, Obama wants to renew the cuts for everyone except individuals earning at least $200,000 annually and couples making $250,000 and up.
Thirty-nine percent agree with Obama, while an additional 15 percent say the tax cuts should be allowed to lapse for everybody. Yet many Democrats seem wary, so close to Election Day, of provoking the 44 percent who say the reductions should include the wealthy.
While about three-fourths of Democrats favor raising taxes on the rich, about half of independents and nearly two-thirds of Republicans oppose the idea. Support for cutting everyone’s taxes exceeds four in 10 people in every region of the U.S. except the Midwest, where one-third back the proposal. Even among people earning under $50,000 a year — mainstays of the Democratic Party — 43 percent want to continue the tax cuts for all.
“You shouldn’t be penalized for making a good living,” said Charles Ricotta, 55, a Democrat from Dunkirk, N.Y. “If you feel the government is cutting your throat, you might feel hesitant about hiring people.”
Republicans say boosting taxes on the wealthy would stifle them from creating jobs, while Obama argues that the rich don’t need a tax break that would add $700 billion to federal deficits over the next decade.
Congressional Democrats struggled Wednesday to decide what path to take. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., sidestepped a question on whether lawmakers should vote on the plan before Election Day, while House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said he is “prepared to discuss alternatives” on the issue.
Looking ahead to the Nov. 2 elections, the poll showed that public expectations favor the GOP. By 60 percent to 31 percent, more expect Republicans to win control of Congress — including four in 10 Democrats.
Overall, 40 percent said the country is heading in the right direction, slightly better than last month but below the 48 percent who said so in the early months of Obama’s presidency. Forty-nine percent approve of Obama’s performance as president, a near-even split that has prevailed since early this year.
Asked their feelings about politics, the top emotions were frustration and disappointment, expressed by eight in 10.
Twenty-six percent of Democrats said they are excited about politics, compared with 80 percent of Democrats who said so in a November 2008 AP-GfK Poll just after Obama’s election.
More than one in four expressed support for the conservative tea party movement, which has helped litter the electoral landscape with defeated incumbents in several states. While significant minorities of tea party supporters are critical of the GOP, the poll found they are far likelier to vote in November than other people; 85 percent plan to support their House Republican candidate.
In the wake of Obama’s cutting U.S. troop strength in Iraq to 50,000, public approval of his performance there has soared to 60 percent. Six in 10 oppose the war in Afghanistan, and only about one in five expected the situation there to improve over the next year.
Obama is also winning increased public approval for health care, the environment and terrorism — but is mired at 42 percent approval for his work on the economy.
The AP-GfK Poll was conducted Sept. 8-13 and involved landline and cell phone interviews with 1,000 randomly chosen adults. The margin of sampling error is plus or minus 4.2 percentage points for adults and 5.7 percentage points for likely voters.
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Associated Press Polling Director Trevor Tompson, AP Deputy Polling Director Jennifer Agiesta, AP News Survey Specialist Dennis Junius and Associated Press writers Natasha T. Metzler, Kevin Freking and Jennifer Kerr contributed to this report.
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ConsiderThis
Posted on September 17, 2010 at 4:39pmMost of the rich Obama is after are small business owners that are creating the jobs!
Report Post »ToledoTea
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 3:04pmCongressional Democrats struggled Wednesday to decide what path to take. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., sidestepped a question on whether lawmakers should vote on the plan before Election Day.
Report Post »Isn’t it interesting that the questions being asked are not whether a tax increase/decrease would be good for the Republic. The real question is whether or not it would be wise to let the tax cut expire before election day. I’m just sooo sick of electioneering preempting honest legislating.
melli50
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 2:49pmWhat these stupid Progressives don’t seem to get is that these rich guys are our bosses. If they tax them to death we’re going to lose our jobs! Duh.
Report Post »ConsiderThis
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 2:21pmIf I understand this right, owners of non incorporated businesses are included in the group Obama wants to claw back some cash from. And remember, the wealth these people have which he wants are in a lot of instances, paper profits. The cash he’s after can be tied up in hard to collect receivables and salary for employees the business owner is trying to keep on the payroll even it means building up inventories. This is not as straight forward as Obama and crowd pretend. However, if your goal is prep people for socialism, keeping jobs scarce and as many as possible dependent on govt handouts – then all this makes a lot of sense.
Report Post »Small business create about 70% of jobs – don’t him push more burdens on them.
middleclassprophet
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 2:18pmThis is yet another issue that the GOP is so obviously hypocritical on. Extending the Bush tax cuts would add 4 trillion to the deficit over the next 10 years. So which is it, decrease the deficit or increase the deficit. You can’t have it both ways, GOPer’s.
Report Post »flagbearer
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 4:27pmTo Middleclass: “This is yet another issue that the GOP is so obviously hypocritical on. Extending the Bush tax cuts would add 4 trillion to the deficit over the next 10 years. So which is it, decrease the deficit or increase the deficit. You can’t have it both ways, GOPer’s.”
I‘m so sorry you don’t understand the reasoning behind the tax cuts. Conservatives want to cut the deficit by cutting spending and stimulate the economy (businesses provide jobs) by cutting taxes. If I don’t do a good enough job explaining it here, perhaps some of my fellow conservatives can step in and do so. First of all, you cannot tax and spend, tax and spend, and tax and spend some more and expect the people being taxed to keep supporting the people who are primarily the beneficiaries of the spending. That is what is called socialism and communism. Here’s a good analogy: A teacher averages all the grades on a test and gives everyone a B. Those who studied really hard were upset they did not get the A they worked for, and those that did not study were thrilled with getting a B with no effort. Eventually the averaged grade for the class fell to an F because those who usually worked hard got tired of not getting the grade that was rightfully theirs, and the slackers continued to be just that, slackers. Now, apply this to America’s economy, and then perhaps you’ll understand why you cannot tax those at the top more heavily than others. Redistribution of wealth is a utopian scheme that has and never will work. And thats what this taxation of the wealthy, in essence, does. If they are smarter, more talented, or even if they were just luckier, to earn greater wealth than you or I, that does not give the government the right to tax them more heavily. I do not covet what rightfully belongs to them. What you progressives/libs just cannot seem to understand is that taxing in order to offset the deficit may work in the short term, but in the long term, the people being taxed are going to get fed up and stop providing the jobs, cut back on expenses, or close the business. My mother used to say, “Don’t bite the hand that feeds you.”
Report Post »flagbearer
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 6:21pmNo, it is not hypocritical. It is good economics. You say that four trillion over a period of ten years won’t be available to offset the deficit. Consider this: those who pay that four trillion are the very people who own the companies that provide millions of jobs to Americans. If they pay more taxes–an unfair redistribution of wealth–where is their incentive to keep/add jobs? These wealthy are the very people who give to charities and spend a great deal of money that in turn stimulates smaller businesses. Don’t you realize that these are affected? Have you considered the lost revenue/taxes that would offset the deficit because of unemployment? Can you not see that regardless of one’s income, that money belongs to the people who earn it and not to the government for redistribution? The answer is to cut spending and cut taxes and live within our means. Just because you want entitlements, doesn’t mean they are fiscally-wise for the country. You’re either for capitalism or against it. I happen to be for it and a system of fair taxation. Taxing one segment more simply because they are wealthier than the others is not fair.
Report Post »Christi
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 7:06pmFlagbearer – he can’t see your points, he’s a troll with his eyes squeezed shut and his fingers in his ears. Otherwise he’d realize the obvious answer to the deficit is to CUT SPENDING.
Report Post »Silversmith
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 2:03pmI am constantly surprised by the percentage of people who support taxing the “wealthy”. I think that idea is capitalizing on two things. 1) the despair that leaves people thinking that they will never be wealthy and so who cares, and 2) the confusion that all struggling small businesses are really what we are talking about not just the Bill Gates of the world. 250 thousand? For a gas station, or convienience store, or deli, or cleaning service is nothing. They will all be hit as the rich costing jobs and increases in the cost of service. The loss of opportunity to improve one’s life this represents is huge in my opinion, and if you support it, then you will never be well off. You will close that door before you ever get there.
Silversmith
Report Post »sawman
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 2:01pmWe keep hearing the rhetoric from both sides on this issue. It’s the folks with money who are our employers. Tax them more, and be prepared to pay the consequences.
Report Post »I would like the most highly visible news commentators, and opinion programs to start interviewing some of our employers on the air. Not just really big, important employers either. I would like to see them interview Mom and Pop businesses and middle size businesses who employ other people. Ask these folks what it would take to start spending their money, and bring back their employees. Ask them why they are afraid to spend the money they have. In my opinion, it would be of greater impact on the people to hear it from the employers than of hearing it from news commentators. Statistics and polls are just numbers on a sheet of paper.
I have, and can still get credit. I have money in the bank. I’m not spending it, however. I’m scared of Cap and Trade, Health care and insurance costs, and impending tax increases. Spending any more of my reserves would be irresponsible to my family, and other business associates.
flagbearer
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 12:58pmOur founding fathers took steps to make sure that no state was treated differently from another and that all citizens should be treated equally under the law. I may joke and kid around that “it must be nice to do/have as the wealthy,” but I really have never envied or desired another man’s goods or money. To do so, would to break the commandment, “Thou shalt not covet they neighbor’s goods.” People who advocate a redistribution of the wealth, in my opinion, violate this commandment. Taxation should be fair across the board. I do object to the the tax loopholes that the wealthy have and know about, which the average American does not. That is where our tax laws need to be revised. And, any elected official/appointee who does not pay his/her taxes when and like the rest of us, should be immediately made to resign his/her office. NO EXCEPTION! This business of “forgetting” or “not knowing” is inexcusable. I don’t think the IRS would let me get by with it, so why should any legislator?
Report Post »RodT82721
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 11:28amWhen did every earned dollar become the property of the government? How could it possibly cost $700 Billion to NOT raise taxes, unless you have already spent that amount and must get it to keep the ship afloat.
Why wouldn’t a majority of those polled agree with raising taxes on those “rich” folks. After all, it’s not going to cost those not rich anything. Over 47% of American wage earners pay $0.00 in income taxes. Then another 50% would be excluded in Barry’s scheme to promote his class warfare, I’m amazed it’s not a lot higher number.
I would imagine that at least half those actually polled had no idea what the poller was asking anyway. Have you ever seen those man-on-the -street interviews? 4 out of 5 interviewed, and usually a collage student, can’t name the VP. Yet we spend an awful lot of time talking about poll results. We don’t know what was asked, who asked and what their agenda is, or what actual knowledge those polled actually had on the subject. Yet here we are discussing the outcome of another poll.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:54amCheers to The Blaze for their optimism in seeing the glass (almost) half full. Instead of an accurate headline, like: Majority of Americans Support Higher Taxes for the Rich, or Tax Hike Beats Tax Break by Ten Percentage Points in Recent Poll, you have the deceptive headline that suggests 44% is “nearly” half.
Way to look on the bright side!
Report Post »Republic Under God
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 5:31pm@Publiuspencilman, I think you draw that conclusion based on the following:
“The survey showed that by 54 percent to 44 percent, most people support raising taxes on the highest earners, an issue that Obama and other top Democrats have thought could define their campaign-season differences with Republicans.”
Buy maybe you neglected to read/remember/acknowledge what followed:
“With broad tax reductions enacted under President George W. Bush expiring at year’s end, Obama wants to renew the cuts for everyone except individuals earning at least $200,000 annually and couples making $250,000 and up. Thirty-nine percent agree with Obama, while an additional 15 percent say the tax cuts should be allowed to lapse for everybody. Yet many Democrats seem wary, so close to Election Day, of provoking the 44 percent who say the reductions should include the wealthy.”
It’s not optimism, just appreciation for the facts – and as the late George Carlin would say, “Maybe the glass is too… …big!” ;)
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 6:22pmI don’t quite see how acknowledging the information that you are pointing to changes anything. Are you trying to point out that Democrats are weary? Not exactly a strong or particularly shocking claim.
Report Post »Republic Under God
Posted on September 17, 2010 at 11:29amNope, that wasn’t the point. First, Democrats are more than weary, they are like a city of people who feel the ground trembling and are terrified at what’s coming though they are not quite sure what. Secondly, so are the Republicans. But they ran off and got their drums and are pretending to be part of what’s causing the ground to shake. But their political posturing won’t save them. The election isn’t going to fix our ailing country, it will take much more. But what this election is is knocking, not Dems, not Repubs, but CONGRESS’s feet out from under them. Character and honesty is a generation away from this country. We are just breaking up the established parasite that is corrupt politicians in the mean time. It’s a wrench in the gears. But that is for naught if our children are greedy money/power worshipping lying wretches that cannot see past their own ambition and self interest.
People who never cared for or wanted anything to do with politics are getting involved to save this country and consequently this world from having liberty’s light be extinguished. Bush’s Patriot Act and Homeland Security, body scans at airports, mandated insurance, the CFPB, Elizabeth Warren’s appointment w/out congress, SEC’s immunity to FoA, Patriot Act made permanent TO NAME A FEW. If I wrote a book with these elements in it in 1999, they’d be praising my imagination and/or mocking my paranoia. Do these things have any relation to freedom? The water is up to our necks and the majority of us don’t even realize it. I guess because they can still breathe. We are the keystone of freedom and peace in this world and we have a lot of work to do within ourselves if we want this keystone to hold.
I don’t think “Nearly Half Oppose Tax Hikes for the Rich” is either inaccurate or optimistic. I’d argue that “Majority of Americans Support Higher Taxes for the Rich” has more spin than “Nearly…” being that detail are important. But so is overall picture, and this is one of the few polls where a Conservative approach is actually in the minority. You might remember:
Polls on AZ law
Polls on WISDOM (Not right) of GZ Mosque (2 blocks away from GZ)
Polls on Economy
Polls on Fiscal responsibility
Polls on the helthcare reform bill
I think you get the idea. Rather, I hope you do. It’d be much easier on your psyche to accept the inevitable truth now.
Report Post »Trying2Understand
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:21amDon’t lose sight of the ball, folks. This story is just another attempt to pit one class in our society against another. In order to implode our way of life, that conflict is necessary. Don’t buy into the propoganda. As long as “they” can keep us angry at our fellow Americans, we won’t be scrutinizing the political decisions, which created the imbalance.
Report Post »wingedwolf
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:15amWhat I am surprised to see is that only tax specialists and honest economists are speaking the truth: the top 11% of earners in this country pay 70% of the taxes paid. The bottom 40% pay absolutely 0.00% in taxes. Those of us in the middle pay the other 30% and get little or zero in return. How is it that my friend’s daughter, who makes less than $24K per year gets back OVER $4500.00 in her return? LEGALLY! Because George Bush gave a $4k tax (welfare) credit to parents making less than a certain amount per year because they have a living child. I know people who get that tax credit who make over $100K per year. So you see, the bottom 40% pretends to pay taxes because there is money taken from their pay, but they are given back MUCH more than they paid. My husband and I paid over $19K in federal taxes in 2009. Our return was $537.00. What did my friend’s daughter do with the money? Blew it on a new bed and on a boyfriend who turns out to be gay (I couldn’t make that up, seems like some kind of poetic justice) and who dumped her when the money was gone after stealing her grandma’s wedding rings. Meanwhile her car sits broken down for over a year, becoming rusted with no shelter, (shame it’s a decent car, needs a radiator & brakes). My friend drives her or lets her use HER car. There is a grandchild involved, used as blackmail to get away with it, don’t get judgmental! This is what is wrong with our tax system. Good earners are punished to pay not good earners welfare tax credits to buy votes! Who in the world is going to vote to give up $4K per year in a lump sum check sent by the taxpayers of the USA? And I‘m not putting down people who don’t make a lot of money who honestly work hard to support themselves. But there are so many programs to help lower-income people available already that the taxpayers shouldn’t be expected to give people $4K per year to blow on a boyfriend and a $2200.00 bed! It’s not THEIR MONEY! Don’t go saying, “it’s their money, they can blow it if they want…..” They didn’t earn it. That money belongs to the taxpayers who paid it to run their government, not to buy welfare votes! There’s your answer.
Report Post »Bril
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:32amThe question I haven’t heard any ask is, what do we have to gain by raising taxes on the rich? If your answer is to pay down the deficit or national debt, you’d be wrong. It is nothing more then another way to further bloat the national government. If the government needs revenue to pay down our debts, it can cut government in half and stop spending, period!
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 2:23pmIf that’s your question, then here’s your answer. Extending the tax cuts for the top 2% will add 4 trillion to the national deficit over the next ten years. Not exactly a recipe for success, professor.
Report Post »DAENDOFLIES
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:20amThere is one key point that everyone misses every the issue of taxes are brought up and we need to start changing the focus.
Report Post »First of all, It’s not their money!!! I am tired of the democrats and other career politicians saying that by extending the tax cuts, it will cost the federal government 700 billion dollars. It’s not their money!!! Can you see the mind set?
Second, I would like to say that ALL Americans should have to pay some taxes. We have evolved into a country that allows 49% of their citizens to go with out paying taxes. There are millions of people out there living on government aid running around with cell phones, watching cable TV, and enjoying the fruits of someone’s labor and not theirs. Why can’t they pay a little in taxes. When a family files their taxes and actually gets back more than they paid in for the entire year, how can that be right? The concept of the left is to keep more people on welfare so they can control them. Is this not a form of slavery and socialism? They are both alive and doing well in America.
Third, I have never received a pay check from someone who didn’t have money. It’s the people at the top who employ us at the bottom. If we manage our money and work hard for the people at top, we can someday be at the top too. That is the American dream isn’t it? When Mr. Big Bucks decides to take his millions of dollars and opens a business, he has to hire employees. (Employees who pay taxes and purchase things to help our economy grow.) As his business grows and makes money, he has to pay taxes and then hire more employees. (who will also pay taxes and buy more stuff).
I believe that Ireland cut it’s corporate taxes to 18% about 10 years ago and since has grown at phenomenal rates since. By using this simple concept, our government could take less and get more because of economic growth. It has been proven over and over that when you tax people less and allow them to grow, the government gets more money. Wake Up!!!
AmericanMutt
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 12:29pmYou make a couple of great points, DAENDOFLIES – but your statement that “the point that everyone misses” is incorrect. WE do see it, but the Commercial Media refuses to tell their overweight, under-performing viewers the WHOLE truth; and you did a great job in defining that demographic!
“It will cost $700 Billion” literally turns my stomach every time one of the Neo-Soc talking heads or politicians repeats it! The truth is, extending the tax cuts will not cost ONE G-DAMNED DIME if this administration would STOP SPENDING OUR MONEY on their failed, BS welfare and pork programs!!!!!
It’s time to neuter this administration, then to keep the scalpel honed and visible to the politicians who remain – just in case we need to use it on them, too!
Report Post »TBTNK9
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:11amThis is exactly right. Lowering taxes for everyone = more private sector jobs and more tax revenue generated. The Democrats have been going on (until recently) about how they can’t afford to lower taxes, when the fact is that if they let the “evil, rich capitalists” keep their earnings there would be more private sector jobs created and more tax revenue generated in the long term. The left seems bent on strangling the economy with almost everything they have been doing.
Report Post »Stu Pete Bestid
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:02amFor most of us, when you sell your house, you automatically get put in the upper bracket.
BY THE WAY,
in the obamacare bill, there is a hidden NEW tax:
4% federal sales tax on all real estate sales.
example: sales price $500k, $20k out of your pocket to the feds.
Report Post »And you still got state and city, and capital gains.
chattycathy
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 8:44amI think that the left‘s constant assault on the ’rich’ as part of their class warfare strategy is also their attempt to destroy religious values in this country. They’ve made “thou shall not covet thy neighbor’s goods” almost non-existent. Don’t underestimate the evil intentions of the left. Everything they do has an evil purpose and destroying society and religion is just one of many.
Report Post »mallsniper
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 8:29amIf being ‘rich’ is soooo evil
Report Post »Why is everyone striving for it
Obama lives in a multi million dollar house
Didn’t know community thuggery could be so lucrative!!!
baldwin4freedom
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 8:10amFor every dollar that the government confiscates, sixty-five cents gets ate up by the bureaucracy that is the federal government and state agencies. The inefficiency is sickening.
Today, to get a good job, you must have a college degree. That is fine, except for the fact that most of those with college degrees have no idea what the real world is all about. Here is my point. THEY ARE RUNNING THIS COUNTRY. Some of the dumbest people I have ever met have been educated people.
Report Post »van
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 8:05amBoy am I glad to see these comments, For years I was “one of the rich”, ha, I was making over $250,000 a year. But for some reason even though I normally worked over 60 hours a week, I was not one of the “hard working Americans” because I made too much money. I have never understood why you have to be a minimum wage earner, union member or welfare recipient to be considered a “hard working American”. It is time for the democratic “class warfare” to stop.
Anyone who actually pays taxes is paying to much and deserves any tax breaks they can get. It has been proven over and over that lower taxes means more jobs and more tax revenue. That‘s why some of the dems are beginning to say that we shouldn’t raise taxes during a recession, if they believe that then why when the economy is doing good do they raise taxes? The answer is because then they can expand the goverment entitlement programs which in turn will lead to another recession. Just leave it alone, spend less, lower taxes and leave the American people alone.
Report Post »AmericanMutt
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 12:15pmVan – I have never gotten a job from a poor person. I do not have to talent, fortitude or education to start and run a business. I do, however, have the dedication to, and respect for my employer(s) to do everything that I can to work hard, produce quality product and help to grow their business.
I have the utmost respect for business owners, small businesses, in particular, because you are the foundation/backbone of America as She should be.
And this comes from someone who has been unemployed for 4 1/2 months. But, if the mid-terms go as WE hope they will, and the politicians get it through their thick skulls that they are there for We, the People, I have high hopes to be back to being a productive member of society sooner than later!
Report Post »AmericanMutt
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 7:57amRegarding “polls”, in general – something I’ve see that really disturbs me is how the results are spun. Not that I put any real value on an AP poll – they’re just another branch of the ProgroCrat Socialist propaganda machine – but here’s an example, from this article:
AP says: “By a 46 percent to 41 percent margin, people want Republicans steering the economy — the first GOP edge on that runaway No. 1 concern of voters in the AP-GfK poll.
Actually, I see that as “only 41 percent want Democrats steering the economy”, so that’s 59% anti-Dem; even if those other 11% had“no opinion” or were “undecided”, they are NOT pro-Dem!
Consider that next time you see poll results put out be the Commercial Media – they won’t admit it, but they spin the results to the least-damaging denominator to try to minimize the reality of the opposition to their Master’s agenda!
Report Post »RubinGaidin
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 8:08amyeah, thats true, also goes hand in hand with causeation and corelation. 60% of people who eat a vegan diet are communist. People assume being vegan causes you to be a communist, when it reality its just a co-incidence until there is a proven scientific fact. Ironicly learned this differance in a college class. But 99% of people forget the lesson as soon as its over,and retain all the un-scientific facts, also known as the Professor’s Opinion.
Report Post »printdesignchicago.com
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 7:53amthis is the true face of communism. punish production and praise mediocrity. those who produce the most, get the things they produce TAKEN from them and GIVEN to others who did not EARN it.
a system of slavery.
Report Post »Ferrets
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 8:44amHuh? Ciomparing rich capitalists who don’t hire nor invest in the US to slaves?
You from another planet?
Report Post »wingedwolf
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:45amI just learned about this anti-colonialism thing. Read this article in Forbes and your eyes will be opened. These schmucks believe that America is a greedy oppressor which takes from others and replaces nothing of value. This is what they are teaching our school children for ex: your other answer person, who has apparently been dumbed down by the public school system.
Report Post »http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0927/politics-socialism-capitalism-private-enterprises-obama-business-problem.html
middleclassprophet
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 2:21pmYou’re totally missing the point. The top 2% aren’t “producing” anything other than profit for themselves. You have conveniently forgotten that our nation no longer produces anything. These tax cuts have done nothing for this country and have contributed greatly to our current situation. Open your eyes.
Report Post »codec
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 2:59pmcompanies wouldn’t ship jobs out of the country if they could afford US labor. sadly, the labor unions make that difficult.
Report Post »simplepatriot
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 6:42pmTax cuts produce more for the economy by freeing up individuals income to further invest or spend however the individual sees fit. Taxing only the wealthy or businesses leads to unemployment and more job’s shipped over seas. Or thanks to NAFTA Mexico. History has proven that tax cuts and living within ones budget( The Federal Government) works to bring jobs and better the economy. Take a look at the history books Coolidge, Kennedy, Reagan all presidents who cut taxes and the economy responded positively.
Report Post »simplepatriot
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 6:52pmRedistribution of wealth reminds me of an analogy one of my teachers told me many years ago about the idea of utopia. ” Suppose you had a boat and were picking up people in the ocean thousands of mile from shore who were in the water due to their boat sinking. You kept picking people up more and more. Soon the boat became full but you still kept picking people up. Pretty soon after your boat being so full began to sink under the weight of the people. Until finally your boat sank as well.” Sad, but all to true.
Report Post »RubinGaidin
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 7:36amHow do so many people not understand such a simple concept. The government does not create jobs, because all the money they use to pay people (normaly over-paid by normal standards for administrative positions) comes out of the tax pool. The people who actualy move the econemy are those “evil” rich people who can afford to hire people and run businesses.
Report Post »When you tax those “evil” people, they have less of a gross income pool to apply to their businesses and in that their payrolls. Then they fire people cause they cant afford them anymore, and then they are more evil, cause they are “heartless”
Simply amazing…
wingedwolf
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:07amThey do understand it. They want this country taken down. You must learn to see that the academic elite reached the conclusion long ago that America is to be held in disdain. They believe America is a greedy oppressor who takes much more than it‘s fair share from the world and doesn’t replace it with anything of value. I know how preposterous that sounds, but it is true that they believe that. These bast#@^$% have been teaching our children this for decades, so there is a large part of the electorate who has been taught revisionist history and has been brainwashed to be ashamed of this country. Admittedly, these people are less intelligent because it seems they have been dumbed down by that system. My neighbor’s children graduated high school in 2002 and 2005. Here are the highlights of what they were taught about this country:
Report Post »* Ron Reagan was an anarchist who attempted to destroy the government (notice the govt, not the country, statism!)
* private property ownership is nothing but greed and it destroys a society
* We all owe ancestors of former slaves more than we can ever pay back, so welfare should be increased and not resented
* businesses should be given to the employees of a company & the income should be shared equally.
I can’t go on. This is what children were taught at public school in an affluent suburb of Pittsburgh.
Knowing that, what is happening shouldn’t be much of a surprise. We were apathetic for far too long, but like Glenn said,, “get behind God,” This is His fight and we need to go stand where He tells us to stand. LOL!
PubliusPencilman
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:49amI think your comment underscores the “convenient” populism of the Tea Party. When majorities are in your favor, “the people have spoken.” When they oppose the Tea Party line, they just don’t understand.
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Posted on September 16, 2010 at 5:13pmWingedwolf, I graduated Highschool in 2001. I even had my Economics/Government teacher showing us Roger Moore Documentaries and taught us a concept like Affluenza – the sickness of seeking wealth beyond what is needed to live. One of the things I remember is him stating that there are enough resources in the world for every single person to have a home and have an American standard of living but because of Affluenza, there are billions who live in poverty around the world. He was a very sharp Jewish man with a sweet disposition. I was very fond of him. I would even visit outside of class hours to pick his brain about government, politics, rights etc. I had a short stint in college that included an International Affairs class that had a professor championing globalism and an American History professor who should have named his curriculum, the history of the White Man’s Sin Called Slavery. SO WHY AM I CONSERVATIVE? On the flip side, my parents are conservative and God-fearing people. Though they never really pushed their politics on me, they instead grounded me in the teachings of Christ. So I learned the real face of Love, Mercy and Compassion. It came down to values and principles. This foundation served as a compass for me.
I do still credit my educators with building my enthusiasm for the law and our American History. My AP American History Teacher in Highschool was actually very objective. To this day, I don’t know whether or not she was a Liberal or Conservative. She truly set my heart aflame for my country’s history. She taught that history was more than dates, it was a series of causes and effects and that in the context of those causes and effects. She also made it clear that textbooks are but one tool for learning history and that sources were VERY important.
It is my own experience in life that tells me that the Restoring Honor Rally has the right concept. Restore yourself, and your family. The rest falls into place. Bring our children to God, let them know His voice and no amount of indoctrination will upend that. What tickles me is that Liberals look at our rally and say THEY DIDN’T OFFER ANY REAL ANSWERS. THEY JUST USE PIE-IN-THE-SKY VALUES. It‘s because they don’t appreciate or understand the power and role a family has, nor do they know the Power and Relevance of God in our (when I say our I include them) lives. Well, we do and I look forward to the day, when the eyes of this Republic cast themselves on Him once again- not money, not power, not government.
As an aside: I totally recommend this book, it was such a blessing to read. It is called The Shack. I plan to give a ton of them out for CHRISTmas :) You can look into it here at http://theshackbook.com/index.html.
God Bless †
Report Post »JayDawg
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 7:35amLets see… “Lying, two-faced scum” Yep, I can indeed say that. Felt pretty good too.
Report Post »AmericanMutt
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 7:39amJayDawg – LOL! Thanks for the chuckle – a nice way to start the day (and bring me down off of my soapbox!)…
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Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:20amYou did real fine up on that soap box. Glad I made you chuckle, but stay up there… :o)
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Posted on September 16, 2010 at 11:59amWill do, Brother, every chance I get!
Now that we’re actually making some headway in restoring America and the values upon which She was founded, we ALL have to stay up on the soapbox and keep the heat on those who to whom we will loan “power” – and remind them that it is WE, the People who lent them that “power”, and it will be WE, the People who revoke it if they fail to represent us!
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Posted on September 16, 2010 at 7:26amAnyone who believes this bumper sticker slogan BS should strongly consider relocating to another country. (I here France is beautiful this time of year! ;) )
The term “for the rich” subverts the truth – this is a tax on high wage earners, some of whom (a minority, 3%, if I recall) are what we might consider “rich” – millionaires, billionaires… The bulk of those who would be affected are producers who benefit from good business practices and desireable product(s).
(And, just to be clear, I am NOT one of them – I am currently unemployed – after 31 years in the workplace (manufacturing) – thanks to this immoral administration and their failed economic policies.)
The financial burden and long-range uncertainty that these folks will suffer will continue the ‘domino effect” of decreased growth and ongoing unemployment as the rest of us are forced to tighten our belts, then tighten them some more as these costs are passed on to us.
One final note: The uber-rich politicians who support these increases already have their own wealth secured in non-taxable instruments to keep themselves from having to participate in this Socialistic scam.
And – in case you weren’t aware, that rat, Biden – the Vice President of the United States of America, the one who shouts so loudly about who “needs” money and who doesn’t
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Posted on September 16, 2010 at 7:32am(Sorry, something caused my post to load before I finished…)
And – in case you weren’t aware, that rat, Biden – the Vice President of the United States of America, the one who shouts so loudly about who “needs” money and who doesn’t – DRAWS A SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK, every month, along with his salary AND his guaranteed retirement (not to mention all of the other costly perks – and, no doubt, the money he will rake in from speaking engagements, TV appearances, book deals and anything else his he can get his dirty, greedy hands on!).
Can you say “Lying, two-faced scum”??
Report Post »Skip Ernst
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 8:02amHis actions are hypocritical, sure, but how following the law a bad thing?
I will freely admit I know very little about Joe Biden’s financial situation. From what little I have read about it just now (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_621292.html) it sounds like he is following the law.
Please understand I am not attempting to prop up Mr. Biden. I simply want to know the truth, whatever it may be and really dislike the rhetoric and character assassination that is commonly used when discussing politicians … regardless of party.
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 8:46amToday’s conflict is between freedom and tyranny. Of course, those who support oppression of the individual do not call it tyranny.
Time will decide who is wins and the conclusion is imminent. If freedom is lost a very barren future for the human race is ahead as we sink back into the “Middle Ages.”
The American Revolution, that lifted the world out of the “Middle Ages,” cannot survive the growth of bureaucracy and loss of individual freedom contained the three 2000+ page laws that have already been passed. Remember, the Bible is only 1500 pages long.
One final thought, if tyranny was in mankind’s best interest, the oppression that characterized the Middle Ages would have resulted in prosperity and happiness. The perfect economic system would have been discovered and there would have been no American Revolution.
Tyranny dominated the world for thousands of years and the result was always poverty and despair. Who really thinks it will be different if tyranny again rules the world?
Report Post »Ayn Rand said “don’t envy the Millionaire’s mansion; fear the millions that crave your refrigerator.” http://commonsense21c.com/
AmericanMutt
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 11:54amHis actions are hypocritical, sure, but how following the law a bad thing? I simply want to know the truth, whatever it may be and really dislike the rhetoric and character assassination that is commonly used when discussing politicians … regardless of party.
Yes, Biden is certainly eligible for Social Security. I don’t think that he should – or needs to – collect it, since he is effectively set for life by virtue of the benefits and perks that he will receive – for life – courtesy of the American taxpayer. Because he has ELECTED to receive Social Security – on top of all of the other taxpayer funded benefits and perks he will receive – it is neither rhetoric nor character assassination to point out that he is being two-faced by proselytizing about who “needs” or does not “need” the money that THEY PERSONALLY EARNED.
As for labeling him “greedy”, “dirty” and “scum”, that is my opinion (which is warranted, based upon his history of graft and his repeated attacks on hard-working, productive Americans) which is, also, a legal right.
I pity you your distaste of my (and everyone else’s) right to express my opinion, but that is your right. It is, however, a good example of the Neo-Socialist mindset which is so pervasive in our society, and which is at the heart of the dire situation in which America now finds herself. The more the sheeple fall in line with The Party, the easier it will be to lead them to slaughter; have a nice trip, “Skip” – I’ll be busy fending off the Neo-Soc butchers for you…
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