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AP: In Hawaii, Accessing Some (Basic) Obama Birth Info Is Easy

HONOLULU (AP) — Lost in the renewed scrutiny into President Barack Obama’s birth records is the fact that anyone can walk into a Hawaii vital records office, wait in line behind couples getting marriage licenses and open a baby-blue government binder containing basic information about his birth.

Highlighted in yellow on page 1,218 of the thick binder is the computer-generated listing for a boy named Barack Hussein Obama II born in Hawaii, surrounded by the alphabetized last names of all other children born in-state between 1960 and 1964. This is the only government birth information, called “index data,” available to the public.

So far this month, only The Associated Press and one other person had looked at the binder, according to a sign-in sheet viewed Wednesday in the state Department of Health building. The sheet showed about 25 names of people who have seen the document since March 2010, when the sign-in sheet begins.

Those documents complement newspaper birth announcements published soon after Obama’s Aug. 4, 1961 birth and a “certification of live birth” released by the Obama campaign three years ago, the only type of birth certificate the state issues.

So-called “birthers” claim there’s no proof Obama was born in the United States, and he is therefore ineligible to be president. Many of the skeptics suggest he was actually born in Kenya, his father’s home country, or Indonesia where he spent a few years of his childhood.

Possible Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has repeatedly stoked the birther fires recently, and last month called on Obama to “show his birth certificate.” Trump said he has investigators in Hawaii searching for more information.

“Nobody has come in and said they’re investigating for Donald Trump,” said Department of Health spokeswoman Janice Okubo, who acknowledged they could’ve come in without identifying themselves as representing Trump.

What the would-be sleuths won‘t find is Obama’s “long-form birth certificate,” a confidential one-page document containing his original birth records kept on file in the first floor of the Department of Health.

Those original birth records typically include additional birth details, such as the hospital and delivering doctor, said Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the state‘s former health director who twice looked at and publicly confirmed Obama’s original long-form birth records.

But those documents are state government property that can’t be released to anyone, even the president himself, said Joshua Wisch, special assistant to the state attorney general. Obama would be able to inspect his birth records if he visited the Health Department in person, but original records of live birth are never released, he said.

Fukino, who served as the state’s health director until late last year under former Republican Gov. Linda Lingle, said in an interview with The Associated Press she’s convinced the long-form document is authentic. She issued public statements in 2008 and 2009 saying she had seen the original records.

“It is absolutely clear to me that he was born here in Hawaii,” Fukino told the AP. “It should not be an issue, and I think people need to focus on the other bad things going on in our country and in our state and figure out what we’re going to do about those things.”

Before Obama’s campaign released his certification of live birth in 2008, he or someone with a tangible interest had to make a written request and pay a $10 fee to receive it, Okubo said. Wisch also said Obama obtained a copy of his own certification of live birth and publicly released it.

State privacy laws prevent a certification of live birth from being released to anyone except those with a tangible interest, such as the person named by the birth record or a close family member.

The document is generated by computer, based on original birth records on file with the state, Fukino said.

New Health Director Loretta Fuddy, a Democratic appointee, declined to comment.

Last week, Republican Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer vetoed a bill that would have required presidential candidates to prove their U.S. citizenship before their names could appear on the state’s ballot — which was widely viewed as targeting Obama — calling it a “bridge too far.”

But the birther conspiracy theory refuses to go away. The latest New York Times-CBS News poll found that 45 percent of adult Republicans said they believe Obama was born in another country, and 22 percent said they don’t know. Only one-third of Republicans said they believe the president is native born. The same poll a year ago found that a plurality of Republicans believed the president was born in the U.S.

Obama said in an interview with ABC News this month that Republicans sowing doubts about whether he’s American-born may gain politically in the short term by playing to their constituencies, but will have trouble when the general election rolls around.

“Just want to be clear — I was born in Hawaii,” the president said at a fundraiser in his hometown of Chicago.

Newspaper birth announcements appeared in both The Honolulu Advertiser and The Honolulu Star-Bulletin in the weeks after he was born.

The Aug. 13, 1961 announcement in the Advertiser appears on page B-6 of the Sunday edition, next to classified ads for carpentry work and house repair.

It says, “Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4.” The address belonged to the parents of Ann Dunham, Obama’s mother.

A similar announcement appeared the following day on page 24 of the Star-Bulletin.

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Online:

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html

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  • UlyssesP
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:17pm

    I bet if we look hard enough we’ll find the shell fragments from the egg-pod he hatched out of. Seriously.

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    • Skippy Toes
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:22pm

      TeeHee

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:58am

      He’s being passive aggressive with the American people. That‘s what he does when he’s not just saying nasty things about us. He hates us. At least, he acts like he hates us. It feels like he hates us.

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  • dsang1
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:13pm

    I didn’t think he took Barrack H. Obama until later and was his dad’s name Barrack H. Obama? I didn’t think so?? Someone Explain please.It says, “Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4.” The address belonged to the parents of Ann Dunham, Obama’s mother.

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  • NOTYERHUCKLEBERRY
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:12pm

    Barack Hussein Obama II? I was under the impression that he changed his name from Berry to Barack. I heard that dad named him Berry to Americanize him. If true, doesn’t this bring into question a “computer generated list”?

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 2:01pm

      He was born Barack, used Barry as a kid, and went back to using Barack as an adult. It’s called a nickname, like if your name is James and they call you Jimmy. If you decide you like James better, you don‘t have to change it because that’s what’s already on your birth certificate.

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  • nedinme
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:12pm

    Even if it turns out that he is not a natural born citizen, what then? He gets impeached and we get…OMG! JOE Biden!!!!..now if Joe can just sleep through the rest of Obama’s term things might be ok!!!

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    • APEXIdaho
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 7:00pm

      Biden goes with him, the Speaker of the House becomes President.

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    • NancyBee
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 8:55pm

      Potty mouth Biden….now that’s a winner!

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  • TOPOFTHEGAME
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:11pm

    NORDYKE TWINS…..born one day after the pRESIDENT IN CHIEF…….Susan Nordyke born 8/5/61 BC# 61-10637……….Gretchen Nordyke born 8/5/61 BC# 61-10638…………. I understand ( have not seen it ) that Obama’s BC# 61-10641…………..How can he have a larger number when he supposed to be born on the 4th of August 1961…

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    • Billybob86
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:20pm

      Okay, here is the ‘funny’ Hawaiian law that grants Hawaiian birth certificates to people NOT actually born in Hawaii:
      ——————————————————————————
      [§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

      (b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

      (c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]
      ———————————————————————————
      Wow! Easier than getting a new title for a stolen car in Alabama!

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  • TOPOFTHEGAME
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:57pm

    THREE FACT CHECKS….First, “FACKCHECK.ORG” Project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center Barack H. Obama II was a founding member, chairman and past president of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge……FIGHT THE SMEARS.COM…..Owned and operated by Organizing for America, a George Soros organization………SNOPES.COM Owners David & Barbara Mikkelson, California couple entire section to debunking Obama’s rumors, including BEING,REMEMBERED,ATTENDING Columbia University. We find it extremely interesting that it was Fackcheck.org reviewed the Mikkelson’s site and found it to be free of POLITICAL BIAS…………….

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    • PalinPal
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 8:25pm

      Hahahaha…………And so it continues………….All the same players…….
      Thank You So Much for Doing Your Homework ~~
      Things are starting to fall apart for Obama.
      This will not take him out of office but sure will be an easy In for Hillary.

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  • Tracking
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:53pm

    I placed an announcement of live birth in the Durham, NC newspapers for my chidren but they were not born there. Anyone can place a birth announcement and this is exactly the type of thing HIS Mother would have thought of.
    We may never know the truth and at this point, not one thing will be done about it.
    I believe there is somethinghe finds embarassing on his birth certificate. Something Americans would not like very much. Perhaps he is listed as Muslim or white? Who knows. Perhaps his Father isn’t listed? His Father was married to many women at the same time and not divorced. Maybe the marriage wasn’t considered legal or recognized? He will never be removed from office, no matter what the truth is, as long as the democrats hold the votes. Never. They love the man.

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    • NancyBee
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 8:44pm

      You got that right………….the damage has been done and if he gets another 4 years, our lives will be changed for the worse. I truly believe our freedoms will start being taken away one by one…and really fast.

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  • mossbrain
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:51pm

    WOW! Some new evidence has been posted on youtube by a brave conservative woman who wishes to remain anonymous. This should make all you doubters get down and kiss Donald Trumps feet for sticking to his guns;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZUAwaGgaUY&feature=digest

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  • Skippy Toes
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:51pm

    I thought his birth bame was Barry Soetoro? Barry Dunham? He only changed his name to Barack later. Wouldn’t Barry Soetoro be the name on the birth certificate?

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    • patriotteapress
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:20pm

      Barry Soetoro was his Indonesian name. Soetoro was his mom;s second husband

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  • chips1
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:47pm

    I was born on one of Saturns moons, however my father was from Juno, Alaska which makes me eligable to rule over your lives. Those are the hard facts, so just get used to it. Your taxes are going to pay for all my happy meals. Ha Ha.

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    • UlyssesP
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:18pm

      Cool, which volcano would you like us to toss virgins into?

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    • BetterDays
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:23pm

      Ok, but you’ll have to pay for all your unhappy ones yourself ! BTW, I‘m coming to vust and I’m never leaving, now all your meals are unhappy, tricky huh?

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  • Zcat
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:43pm

    Obama‘s Sister Maya Soetoro’s Long Form Vault Birth Certificate From Indonesia, Has Hawaii COLB Just Like Barack.

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  • NOBALONEY
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:42pm

    Let’s all move on, these are the records they’ve been looking for. Back to reality. Is the world still on fire, and we’re drowning in 14.2 trillion dollars of debt, The congress is vacationing, and the President is on his 2012 campaign. What me worry? Its a mad mad mad mad world’

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  • thealanpeters
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:40pm

    http://noiri.blogspot.com/2011/04/fooling-people-by-evading-truth.html

    The above may summarize the situation. Amazing how so many REFUSE to even consider there is something wrong with so much pointing to it being very WRONG

    You might want to browse some of the other articles on http://antimullah.com main page below the one above.

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  • 13thGenerationAmerican
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:39pm

    It’s getting extremely hard to post here on the blaze lately

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    • spirited
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 12:26pm

      And, hard to enter Theblaze.com!
      –>the ‘Blake” comes up instead.

      Plus, there were no actual postings earlier today. (???)

      >Had to go through Glenn Beck to enter Blaze.

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  • APEXIdaho
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:38pm

    Here are a couple of sites that you can see his BC.

    http://thepowerhour.com/news4/obama_kenyan_birth_certificate.htm

    http://www.rense.com/general92/birthcert.htm

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    • Killa From Wasilla
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:24pm

      God himself could produce the Birth Certificate and it wouldn’t matter to the Birthers.

      Everyone knows that this is a race issue. Carter, Ford, Reagan, Nixon, Clinton, Bush Sr, Bush Jr., not one of these had their birth questioned or did anyone request to physically check their birth certificate.
      I love it, it just drives these Birthers crazy that they have a black President.

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    • trueblueday
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 7:39am

      Obama was “selected, before he was elected”. This socialist progressive was groomed by Soros and buddies even before he became a senator. Obama grew up within a circle of radicals like Bill Ayers, and now he’s imparting his ideals and values on We, the People. Just like the days of McCarthy, our government has been infiltrated. Look at the Czars and their philosophies. When these progressive libs won’t stand with their hands over their hearts and recite “One Nation, under God,” we’re in serious trouble.

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  • TOPOFTHEGAME
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:37pm

    First,,, when was the law changed that “‘NO ONE”" now gets a Long Form birth certificate????? I’ll bet the LAW was CHANGED in the last three years…..does anyone out there know??????

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    • BetterDays
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:58pm

      On April 11, 2011, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, former director of the Hawaii Department of Health, told MSNBC that long-form birth certificates were no longer available, however it appears that no law exists to legally restrict one from getting one, they just refuse any and all requests. In fact the application process no longer includes a long form request availability on the form itself.
      In other words no law, but your not going to get one anyway.

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    • upstateny
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 8:40am

      The policy was changed after the election when the controversy gained traction. I will find the cached screen shots. There is a before and after showing the changes.

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  • Iomaire52
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:35pm

    My father always said, “if it sounds to good to be true, it usually is”. Is it really that easy? A “computer generated” list, that has been overooked by everyone else, but this guy? If it’s that easy, show us the bc, then the college papers, college entrance ap’s, and who exactly was the doctor? The neighbors? Is Grandma crazy? Hitting the khat? The Country would suffer if he is not Constitutionally eligible to serve, we need to know who is running our Country, putting us in wars all over the world, disparaging and changing our history, he can’t even throw a baseball! Inquiring minds need to know. It seems the pols are backing off in droves, they must know something…..share? Trust, but verify.

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  • carolinaconservative
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:35pm

    look we all know he is full of doo doo, but let’s not fall for his ploy and take our eyes off what should be our goal. the goal should be to get him out of office in 2012 and hopefully the repubs put up a viable candidate.

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    • mill
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 10:05pm

      Ah!!..there you got it…a “viable” candidate..ain’t gonna happen. slim pickins with what we’ve seen so far. I think they’re all in cahoots in Washington and are planning together.
      The Repbs offered up McCain, a milquetoast whoosie of a candidate. His boots have hit the ground in Libya…look for our soldiers to be offered up in double time.
      A viable candidate indeed…it would be nice.

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  • mikecp
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:33pm

    This birth certificate stuff, true or not, is nothing but a major distraction. IF it were discovered that Obama is not a natural born citizen, the only group of people that can impeach Obama is the Senate, which is controlled by the Democrats. Do you think they would actually impeach him? Instead of beating this dead horse maybe you should spend more time contacting your congresspeople and start pressuring them to get our economic ship under control. Forget the birth certificate, concentrate on the damage that has been done and is currently being done by Obama and the democrats/RINOs in congress.

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    • superbec
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:47pm

      thank you, who cares if he was born here or not, we need to beat him in 2012 to get our country back

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    • Zaggynuts
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:29pm

      If he is proven to not b e natural born we don’t have to worry about beating him in 2012. Face fact folks obama is not a natural born citizen. You guys are listening to a bunch of left wing pundits and one hypocrite (beck) who doesn’t give a damn about the constitution, republic, founders or citizens. Obama needs to prove he is eligible or get the hell out of the way.

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    • APEXIdaho
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:51pm

      The House impeaches, the Senate would then have to convict. The SCOTUS is who needs to do their job, they could, and should remove him from office and void everything he has illegelly signed.

      http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=134881

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    • mikecp
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 8:05pm

      SCOTUS cannot remove him from office. Only the Senate can remove him from office. SCOTUS absolutely has no such authority.

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    • APEXIdaho
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 8:13pm

      If he is illegally in the office they can.

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    • mikecp
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 8:41am

      No they can’t. They can rule him ineligible. That is it. The responsibility would fall on congress to do the rest. Please do your research….

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  • BarryShouldbeinJail
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:30pm

    I still don’t believe a word that comes out of his pie hole, once a liar, always a liar!!!! A dude on another story today has his Kenyan LFBC and to me that is all the evidence I need until someone proves that to be a fake!!!

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    • PalinPal
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 7:22pm

      Hahahaha ~ I saw that Kenyon BC. THAT looks like the Real thing. the Kenya hospital and his grandmother say he was born there.

      It doesn’t matter where he was born. He is Not an American ~
      He is an Enemy Within & Must be exposed for who he is.

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  • Psychosis
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:28pm

    HIS LOCATION OF BIRTH IS NOT THE ISSUE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    HIS FATHER WAS A BRITISH SUBJECT HENCE HE WAS NOT A US CITIZEN

    NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR PRESIDENCY

    NATURAL BORN REQUIRES BOTH PARENTS TO BE US CITIZENS

    this is why he wont release his bc…………..it takes the attention off of the real issue

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    • mill
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:42pm

      THIS IS TRUE!!

      NO one brings up this issue!!! to hell with the copy of bc he puts out…lets talk about DAD!!!

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    • mill
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:55pm

      THIS PART i LEFT OFF;;; DELETED
      Not only his father…but his mother was in question:

      “US Law very clearly stipulates: “.If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.” Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after*.

      So all the smoke about the BC is exactly that smoke…it’s the facts about the parents that they are wanting to hide.

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    • chirodoc007
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:00pm

      His mother was American. If he were born in Hawaii he was born on US soil. Both points would make him a Natural born American.

      Why do you think that Illegal Aliens sneak across the border to give birth on American soil? Being born on US soil makes you a Natural born US Citizen. That’s why they call then “Anchor Babies”.

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    • gwfan
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:01pm

      Thank you! I have been screaming this since the issue first emerged in 2007. The BC is not an issue easily proven but it is FACT that his father was a British citizen and the Constitution plainly states that both parents must be natural born US citizens in order to meet the qualifications. This is the issue that would boot his rear out of office. But hell, since when have we governed by the Constitution? The turn of the 19th century? One other thing that no one talks about is the letter signed by Nancy Pelosi and the DNC stating that Obama had met all the requirements under the Federal Law and the Constitution in order to run for President. The problem is that they completely omitted the part about meeting the Constitutional requirements and reworded it in the official letter. If you have the time take a look at that document. I believe that letter had never been previously modified that way in our history.

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    • chirodoc007
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:03pm

      MILL

      So all babies born to mothers under the age of 21 are Non-Citizens? That seems to be your argument.

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    • gwfan
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:07pm

      Chiro
      Just being born on US soil may make you a citizen in the US but it does not make you eligible to run for President. The Consitution specifically states that both parents must be natural born citizens. The illegal aliens coming across the border may have their baby on our soil but that would not make their child eligible to run for president.

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    • Zaggynuts
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:21pm

      Exactly…

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    • mill
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:33pm

      CHIRODOC007….PLEASE RE READ THE QUOTE…YOU ARE NOT GETTING THE JEST OF WHAT IT STATES.
      &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

      chirodoc007
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:03pm

      MILL

      So all babies born to mothers under the age of 21 are Non-Citizens? That seems to be your argument.

      RE READ THE QUOTE….PLEASE…
      ***************************************************

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    • anniyan428
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 7:07pm

      You guys clearly have not read the law. First of all, it states no where in the constitution the exact definition of a natural born citizen so there is your first flaw. Secondly, it is, however, stated in the United States Code http://uscode.house.gov/pdf/2008/2008usc08.pdf in section 1401 (search it on the page) that a natural born citizen is one who is born on United States soil, regardless of nationality or citizenship of the parents. So no matter where his parents are from or what citizenship they hold, he is a natural born citizen as he was born in Hawaii, soil belonging to the United States. Before you begin bashing others for not reading the Constitution, remember to do your own homework instead of being ignorant.

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    • APEXIdaho
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 7:14pm

      If you read the documents that the founders did to come up with their wording you would understand what they were getting at.

      http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=134881

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    • anniyan428
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 7:47pm

      The constitution is not a document that we can just “infer” what the “founders were getting at”. The meaning is either there or it is not. By the current lay of the law, Obama is an eligible president, end of discussion.

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    • APEXIdaho
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 7:56pm

      They didn’t infer anything;

      Origin of the natural born citizen clause

      The strict constitutional requirements were enacted to exclude citizens for the sake of national security in safeguarding the office from inexperience and from persons who may not have sole allegiance. It appears the clause was first introduced for constitutional consideration in a letter from John Jay to George Washington dated July 25, 1787:

      Permit me to hint whether it would not be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government, and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.
      Jay underlined “born” which signifies the importance of allegiance from birth. The “natural born” requirement renders irrelevant that a person – born to foreign or dual allegiance – may not have renewed his foreign citizenship upon reaching maturity. One is either eligible to be president at birth, or one will never be eligible.

      An important historical definition of “natural born citizen” comes from a 1797 translation of the “Law of Nations,” a 1758 text by Emerich de Vattel, which summarized that body of international law known also as the “Law of Nations”:

      The citizens are the members of the civil society: bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.
      Note that a child of former aliens can be a natural born citizen under this standard if born in the United States to parents who were naturalized prior to the child’s birth. That was made clear by the Supreme Court’s opinion in Perkins v. Elg.

      It appears from James Madison’s notes of August 1787 that the delegates used the terms “native” and “natural born citizen” synonymously. Additionally, Ben Franklin stated that the framers frequently consulted Vattel’s text. Also consider that Article I, Section 8, grants Congress the authority to “punish … offenses against the Law of Nations.”

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    • anniyan428
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 8:08pm

      All of the sources you posted comprise of letters, intentions, etc., but none are actual statutes of United States law. we cannot hold up these standards and unless they are explicitly observed in a standard bill or code under United States federal law. Until such times, whatever the founders said or intended cannot supersede the laws that we currently have in place.

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    • APEXIdaho
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 8:20pm

      Article 1, Section 8 of the constitution happens to be the law of the land.

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    • fbcallicoat
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 8:43pm

      You armchair constitutional lawyers don‘t know that the hell you’re talking about.

      First, the 14th Amendment itself declares that anyone born here is a citizen.

      Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 1:
      “ All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

      It defines two kinds of citizens, those born in the United States (natural born citizens) and those born elsewhere but naturalized. The so-called Law of Nations doesn’t mean squat here. The 14th Amendment made that clear.

      Second, the question of citizenship was decided by the Supreme Court back in 1898 in a case called U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898). (Person born in the United States to foreign non-citizens is in fact a citizen of the United States.)

      That’s what the entire so-called “anchor baby” dispute is about.

      This whole issue is designed to (1) distract from the actual, real dangers of this radical socialist President, and (2) make the independent voters think the Republican party is batsh*t crazy.

      Good going, you morons! Boob bait for bubbas, indeed.

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    • anniyan428
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 9:19pm

      I don‘t know what version of the Constitution you’re reading, but please direct me to the exact clause that explicitly states that a person born on United States soil but whose parents have different citizenships is not considered a natural born citizen, because it does not say so in Article I Section 8 of the Constitution of the United States

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    • APEXIdaho
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 9:53pm

      “To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;“ ”Law of Nations,” a 1758 text by Emerich de Vattel, is what was used by the founders to get their information.

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    • APEXIdaho
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 10:04pm

      The 1797 translation was adopted by the Supreme Court in Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), where Chief Justice Waite stated:

      The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

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    • anniyan428
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 3:26am

      Once again you fail to cite any law. Just because according to that letter, the founding fathers believed a natural born citizen to be one with both citizen parents, doesn’t mean that you can use the transitive property to apply that definition to the one scribed in the constitution by those founding fathers. If so, they should have put it in the Constitution itself, otherwise it is far too ambiguous. The supreme court has already decided in the case of a Chinese American that a natural born citizen includes a person who was born on US soil regardless of parental citizenship and supreme court interpreting is final

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    • APEXIdaho
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 10:48am

      U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

      In 1898, Justice Horace Gray wrote one of the most controversial opinions in Supreme Court history wherein a man born in the United States of Chinese alien parents was held to be a citizen. Wong Kim Ark is the precedent relied upon for the assertion that any person born on United States soil, regardless of parentage, is a citizen. But that’s not accurate. The holding in Wong Kim Ark appears to require for citizenship that a person be born on United States soil to parents who are permanently domiciled here. If the domicile requirement is upheld in future cases, anchor babies will no longer be assumed to be United States citizens.

      Regardless, the holding in Wong Kim Ark did not state that such a citizen was “natural born.” In fact, Justice Gray reiterated the definition of natural born citizen as one born on United States soil to parents who are citizens when he favorably discussed Minor v. Happersett:

      That neither Mr. Justice Miller nor any of the justices who took part in the decision of The Slaughterhouse Cases understood the court to be committed to the view that all children born in the United States of citizens or subjects of foreign States were excluded from the operation of the first sentence of the Fourteenth Amendment is manifest from a unanimous judgment of the Court, delivered but two years later, while all those judges but Chief Justice Chase were still on the bench, in which Chief Justice Waite said: “Allegiance and protection are, in this connection (that is, in relation to citizenship), reciprocal obligations. The one is a compensation for the other: allegiance for protection, and protection for allegiance. … At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens. …”
      While the dissent feared the majority holding would make Wong Kim Ark eligible to be president, Justice Gray‘s restatement of the Minor Court’s definition of a natural born citizen as one born in the United States to parents who are citizens stands in direct contrast to the dissent’s fear.

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    • APEXIdaho
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 10:53am

      SCOTUS rulings are law.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 2:13pm

      APEXIdaho
      You left out the rest of that quote from Minor v Happersett 1874

      “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.”

      You know, the part where the Court says that the definition of a natural born citizen was never a settled issue, and make it clear that they are NOT ruling on whether or not American born children of non-citizens are natural born citizens, because it has nothing to do with the case at hand. This was over eighty years after the ratification of the Constitution and almost 25 years before they finally did rule on the matter in the precedent-setting US v Wong Kim Ark decision.

      “It thus clearly appears that by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country, and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, and the jurisdiction of the English sovereign; and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject, unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign state, or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born. III. The same rule was in force in all the English colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the constitution as originally established.”

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 2:40pm

      APEXIdaho
      Oh yeah, and if you’re going to try to wow us with quote’s from Vattel’s Law of Nations, you ought to know that this argument was already presented to the Supreme Court by the LOSING side in US v Wong Kim Ark. They didn’t buy it, and ruled that the English Common Law established the definition in use in this country at the time of the writing of the Constitution. You may not agree with this, but they’re the Supreme Court and your not. And like you said, “SCOTUS rulings are law.”

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  • RayOne
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:28pm

    Let this be ‘the Donald’ issue. When the race becomes real the WH should have to explain why the game has been played.
    Return to the WH press briefing room with . . .?

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  • BetterDays
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:24pm

    Oh, an alphabetized list, not date specific , hmm, like they just organized it about two and a half years ago maybe?
    Who in GODs name goes to the trouble of alphabetizing a birth list, when it’s common practice to just list the vital statistics in the order they are received from the hospitals, ah? I’m going to say the this obvious fraud of a list, constructed list, false list only confirms what many of us know already.
    Obama had duel citizanships and is/ was not eligible to become what he fraudulently is, a president of our nation.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 1:56pm

      Yes, and they are so diabolically clever that they produced an alphabetical list for every other year in the history of Hawaii too, just so that nobody would catch on.

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  • steve-in-pa
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:24pm

    Enough is enough…man up barry and show your long form birth certificate.

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    • walkwithme1966
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:42pm

      Did you not read the article Steve – no one can get the long form – not even Obama. He has released the document that he got. I can not believe that you are so stupid as to read this whole article and still ask for him to release the long form. HE CAN’T – are you not able to read. The whole birther issue needs to be dropped by the people in the tea party and especially Trump who lied about having investigators in Hawaii. And Steve you need to learn to read!!! http://wp.me/pYLB7-V0

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    • patriotteapress
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:09pm

      Walkwithme, he can obtain a certified copy which is basically a photocopy with a raised seal proving it come from the dept of record. That’s what all of us have that have a long form BC. No one actually gets the original document. If we did then there would no longer be a record of our birth. This article is just trying to confuse the issue just like the certificate of live birth did.

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    • LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:35pm

      @ patriotteapress…even if he did get a COPY of the ORIGINAL BC.It’s still a COPY and the birthers would still say it was ALTERED some how The only way to prove it for sure would be that Obama would take a Birther to Hawaii and get a copy handed to them from Obama ……. but that will never happen lol

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    • TumbleBumble
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 7:13pm

      WALKWITHME1966 ~

      The article does not say that Trump lied about sending investigators, it says the Department of Health spokeswoman “acknowledged they could’ve come in without identifying themselves as representing Trump.” Seems like you missed that part.

      Bottom line is, there is a huge number of Americans who do not believe in our president. If he was a man of honor, he would want these citizens to feel comfortable with him in that position. He would release a copy of the full form so we can have that sigh of relief. But he is without honor, so he let’s the country squirm.

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    • truthwinz
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 7:18pm

      WALK: He’s the President of the United States……and you really want to believe EVEN HE can’t get a certified copy of this to put the question to rest?

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    • Non-sequitur
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 8:07pm

      @Truthwinz

      “He’s the President of the United States……and you really want to believe EVEN HE can’t get a certified copy of this to put the question to rest?”

      Yes. Why not? He has to work within the system and should ideally not be above the law in any situation. Being the president doesn’t give him a carte blanche to do whatever he wants.

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    • thetreyman
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 8:38pm

      you guys kill me. do any of you actually think that this BC thing is a winning strategy for 2012. you guys are dreaming if you think it is. latching on to trump because he is the one feeding you your red meat. news flash, trump is not a conservative. keep it up and you will give obama four more years. then what? complain about it for another term and say how could the people vote him in again when he is not a natural born citizen. and we will all be worse off and i will blame you. LET IT GO!

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    • ColoradoDad
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 11:28pm

      @walkwithme,

      I think you need to watch who you call stupid, because frankly dear you are the stupid one here. When people say they want to see the long form they are talking about a certified copy from the state you were born in. This is common in all states and that is what everyone whom fills out the proper forms receives, which is stamped with a seal from the state it was issued. It shows more than what the copy he produced showed. It is what every American citizen has to show for passports, drivers licenses, s.s. cards, etc.,etc.,etc. So get a clue, and don’t believe everything you read. Oh, and Happy Easter to you!

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    • trueblueday
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 7:32am

      Corsi is coming out with a book on this topic, a topic he has researched for a few years. I’ll be interested to hear what was found.

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    • carnifex
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 2:23pm

      @NON-SEQUITOR
      Exactly! He should have to work within the system. Unfortunately, he has a propensity of imposing by fiat what he can’t achieve by legislation, i.e. cap and trade, drilling moratorium,pay for czars…And what he does get passed as legislation is generally unconstitutional i.e. O@#$@care (i’ve sworn to never use his name)…and the limp dem Sen, plus the limp rep house, won’t call him on it.
      So yes, because he has shown an inability to but 2 truthful words together, he needs to show the damned thing. Then, if it is as we think and he IS ineligible to be Pres. he should be hanged for treason, and all dem.s who supported him should be jailed for the same reason. Now since we can’t possibly jail that many people, we should just execute them also.
      That would solve many of our problems. Unemployment would go down (hiring executioners and getting welfare queens off the rolls), Global warming would be reduced (thats just an aside for the leftist, I don’t believe in anthropomorphic warming) because fewer people using resources. Fewer illegal aliens (by the one at lest), over population (self explanatory), Wall street would be cleaned up( who supports the one more than those crap weasals), so would the legal system and the courts (see prior), and (jeez I could go on for days about the benefits).

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    • fbcallicoat
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 10:53pm

      @COLORADODAD – Obama HAS produced a certified copy with a raised seal, properly attested to by someone with the Hawaiian Health Department. You can see high-resolution photos of it on the internet if you Google it.

      The Bither issue is a complete loser — as someone in the Clinton administration said about a different issue, it’s “boob bait for Bubbas.” It detracts from the real issues and divides conservatives from independent voters. It’s actually quite genius — for the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.

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    • dr_funk
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 2:05am

      @walkwithme1966

      Wrong. You didn’t even read the article. Shame on you.

      It clearly states that nobody EXCEPT OBAMA OR HIS FAMILY can obtain a copy of the long-form birth certificate.

      …assuming it exists. There is a sworn affidavit out there from a former employee of the Department of Health that indicates the long-form doesn’t exist, and that political pressure was put on him to stop following up on requests to find it.

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  • and to the republic
    Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:21pm

    Then why won’t he show the dang thing? Get it over with and show the BC. Not the live birth document. The actualy BC. I got mine…

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    • lovenfl3
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:23pm

      Obama has been using this whole thing from day one. He uses it to divide the American people, that’s all this is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nTMaT_9QGo The great divider just loves to tear the American people apart.

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    • avenger
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:31pm

      stop with this nonsense..where were these heroes in 2008 when this trojan horse came out of the woodwork ?

       
    • Whitey4West
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:38pm

      to keep people watching the left hand…

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    • bikerr
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:39pm

      President Obama’s reaction is not the actions of a good leader. It is not the reaction of a leader Good or Bad.

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    • LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:40pm

      Beck said to put this issue to bed, why do you think the Blaze posted this article.

      SHOWTIME…. where are you ?

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    • Revere1
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:43pm

      I wonder what Trump’s investigators found (if anything). Seems like he needs to branch out to other issues though. http://www.elephantwatcher.com/2011/04/why-is-trump-unlikely-to-win.html

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    • John 1776
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:46pm

      I think he was born in the US, but there is some embarrassing detail he does not want to be made public. Hawaii had just become a state back then, and that lays the groundwork for a lot of confusion. What I can’t figure out is why the fuss and the push-back. He should just open it up.

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    • veruca salt
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:48pm

      What a lame attempt by the Blaze to justify Glenn’s anti-birther rant last week. They’re posting a story by the AP, a lamestream, biased media source, and trying to pass it off as truth on the same day they have a story about Hannity exposing the media’s left wing bias. What irony. Shame on you, Blaze. Glenn stepped in it the other day and he won’t get off that easily. He still refuses to live up to his mantra of “question with boldness” on this important issue.

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:50pm

      It really does not matter where the AntiChrist was born does it?

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    • chirodoc007
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:52pm

      Republic

      The article says that the state of Hawaii does not release the original to anyone. No one would expect them to release the ACTUAL original. The article says nothing about a “Certified Copy”. Certified copies are what we have in Florida and it’s what I have from my birth in NY. The bottom line here is that AP says sit down and shut up.

      I don‘t question Barry’s place of birth but I do think that Trump made a valid point when he said that Obama was hiding something on the Birth Certificate. I would bet that it lists religion as Muslim. That could be a problem. For Non-muslims it could be similar to Romney’s “Mormon Problem”, Kennedy’s “Catholic Problem”, and Dukakis’ “Jewish Problem” (his wife).

      For Muslims — denying his Muslim faith makes him an Apostate (the worst kind of Infidel). The only way that committed Muslim “Extremists” would not call for a Fatwa against Obama is if they believe that he is engaged in Taqiyya (Permitted lying/deception needed to avoid detection).

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    • Redd
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:56pm

      http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/10/hawaii-official-and-ex-official-lie-to-cover-their-tracks/
      [here is LONG form from march 2011]
      Dunham can send for his and show everyone, obviously the commie has sumpin to hide!

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    • NickDeringer
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:01pm

      Obama won’t show it ever. He’s making birthers look like the barking lunatics that they are. It’s playing into the MSM propaganda that people on the Right are extremist, gun toting, nut jobs.

      That’s why!

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:20pm

      @And to the Republic:

      This is being used as a distraction; the left is using any potential candidate who even speaks of the BC matter to be a madman or a madman and a radical. This matter is used for the motivating of their own base on the left, not for any other purpose.

      We need to focus on the principles and ideals of the next conservative candidate, who has the guts and honor to do the right thing, make the hard choices, stick with them, and begin to undo all that has been done by the progressives and the negligence of others for the last century.

      The next candidate needs to be a leader, with others following who will stand on the same core set of principles for the good of the nation and for what is right.

      That is what is needed now, for WE THE PEOPLE will be known as the Restorers of the Nation in the generations to come, or the ones who let her pass into the night.

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    • TexasCommonSense
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:25pm

      Someone checkout the type font on these documents and make sure it‘s not a modern font which wasn’t in use in the 1960s. LOL! I know, we can get Dan Rather and Mary Mapes to head the investigation. They were given a crash-course in fonts just a few short years ago.

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    • Cemoto78
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:26pm

      No matter where he was born or hatched, he’s still the worst president this country has ever experienced. The main thing is to make sure this immature, thin skinned, and liar doesn’t get another term. He needs to be voted out and we need to move on to bigger and better things without his minions and Marxist friends. To put it in his words, “let me be clear, Obama as a president sucks”.

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    • calebgs83
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:33pm

      I thought he changed his name from Barry to Barack…but the live birth certificate states his name as Barack…am I missing something?

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    • GONESURFING
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:45pm

      Obama was probably born here in Hawaii, but what is he hiding ? How in the world did he get elected ? Obama really sucks.

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    • chirodoc007
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:47pm

      CALEBGS83

      Barry was a Nickname that he used as a kid. Barack is the birth name.

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    • GEW
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 6:52pm

      @redd, that is exactly what everyone should do that was born in Hawaii about the same time this President was, take a picture of your birth certificate and show the world they are lying.

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    • PalinPal
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 7:00pm

      LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 5:40pm

      Beck said to put this issue to bed, why do you think the Blaze posted this article.

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Are you trying to say that this article is posted on the Blaze because Beck said to put the issue to bed??That would be kind of like propaganda.
      The above article by the AP is full of untruths and loopholes. It’s just another attempt by the MSM to make this issue go away. It will Not go away until the Truth be told what ever that may be. Until then we will question with boldness just as Glenn Beck has always said.
      I would hope that the Blaze will post articles because they are News worthy not to futher someones agenda whoever they may be.

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    • neverending
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 7:22pm

      It’s not just the BC but everything else that is missing. Most of us have many, many neighborhood friends, grade school friends, high school friends and then college and work, What nobody wants to admit they have been a longtime friend of his?

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    • MomaGrisley2
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 7:37pm

      Enough with the smoke screens…this binder is now all of sudden available…yeah right. SHOW US THE LONG FORM!

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    • Redd
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 7:38pm

      Glenn Beck DECLARES: AFRICAN is not a RACE!…
      http://newsone.com/nation/news-one-staff/just-curious-is-african-american-really-a-race/

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    • vic138
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 7:45pm

      Besides religion possibly being muslim, what if race is “CAUCASIAN?” Piss off both muslims, african-americans as well as the rest of us for keeping this secret. Unless its a total ruse, I say he doesn’t run in 2012. Maybe the blaze should start with the anti-hillary stuff now.

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    • Non-sequitur
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 8:05pm

      “That would be kind of like propaganda.”

      Please remember that you’re posting on a website that only reports one side of any issue and even tells you which opinion to have in the headlines.

      How can you think that propaganda and furthering the agenda of Glenn Beck is not the point of a site owned by Glenn Beck?

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    • ME
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 8:11pm

      “It is absolutely clear to me that he was born here in Hawaii,” Fukino told the AP. “It should not be an issue, and I think people need to focus on the other bad things going on in our country and in our state and figure out what we’re going to do about those things.”

      “it is absolutely clear to me that Elvis is alive I seen him twice” I said to myself. “It should not be an issue, and I think people need to focus on there lives and not worry about Elvis if he wanted to be seen by others he would be.”

      Well now both are fact and that was all that was need hay???

      “As I was reading the gold tablets in my hat to a friend” just had to go there:):) LOL

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 8:34pm

      MY understanding is that he was ADOPTED and taken to INDONESIA as Barry Soetoro .. under a FOREIGN PASSPORT .. where is the information on his name change TO BARACK OBAMA? What is his real citizenship ???? … How did he get a Social Security Number from a state he NEVER LIVED IN? PUT IT ALL OUT FOR PEOPLE TO SEE >>> OR LEAVE THE WHITE HOUSE!

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    • WSGAC
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 8:43pm

      Can anyone say, “Rosemary’s Baby”?

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    • woodyb
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 8:52pm

      And I am going to walk in , say “I am here representing Donald Trump and I want to see Obama’s birth records”???????????

      I THINK NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Redd
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 8:57pm

      dunham row grows!!!…
      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/row-grows-over-obamas-birth-certificate-2274079.html

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 9:01pm

      He’s an extraterrestrial.

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    • jzs
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 9:02pm

      Hello! This is yet another example of the adults taking the asylum back from the lunatics. You are going to see more and more of this. Notice the neutrality of the article and the understated repetition of the real facts? Notice there is no appeal at all to the the birthers?

      Beck and Bachman have both, now, dropped the birther issue. Trump is being marginalized. Others will more and more so. The adults are taking over in preparation for the next election. Sorry birthers, even your guys are smart enough to drop the issue.

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    • Retribution
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 9:12pm

      Quote by chirodoc007: (For Muslims — denying Obamas Muslim faith makes him an Apostate (the worst kind of Infidel). The only way that committed Muslim “Extremists” would not call for a Fatwa against Obama is if they believe that he is engaged in Taqiyya (Permitted lying/deception needed to avoid detection)

      Obama has all the credentials for being the Biblical false prophet that Revelations says precedes the Antichrist. Obama will get re-elected because IMHO the rapture will occur before the next election paving the way for the appearance of the Antichrist.

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    • jzs
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 10:01pm

      Retribution, I follow your logic. But if I understand you President Obama is not the anti-Christ, he’s just paving the way for the anti-Christ, someone who will arise before the next election and bring the Apocalypse.

      Scary that there is only two years until the end of the world! I’m going to stop saving for retirement and enjoy life while I can. I wonder who the anti-Christ is? Personally I think it‘s Sarah Palin but that’s just me.

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    • nptden
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 10:14pm

      Forget the birth certificate. The fraud that is evident is his ‘social security card’ from Ct.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZlaIS5o9Vs&feature=youtu.be

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 10:19pm

      look they blew up WTC tower 7 and convinced you that it was Muslim terrorists
      I think Bo Bo has a good fake Birth certificate that will never be challenged because
      the corruption is deep into our courts.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 10:21pm

      to SINSTAMACE, he may also be an Egyptian pharaoh’s CLONE.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkS51wR8LiI

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 10:26pm

      Am I the only one who has watched the Movie The Boys from Brazil
      starring Gregory Peck ?

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 10:28pm

      Come on DASH I know this is your subject
      I hope you have not been banned

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    • Ellie
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 10:41pm

      While O’s actions to hide his long form BC are clearly not those of one with nothing to hide, no one, that I have seen, has bothered to ask the key question which is:

      What, if anything, would be on a HI long form BC that would clearly state that one WASN’T born in HI? Has anyone born outside the US with a HI long form BC come forward to show what it should look like?

      Has anyone gone into the HI health dept. and asked to get a long form BC issued for their foreign born child “so they can have a better life”

      IF there is corruption in the issuing of long form BC’s which do not clearly indicate that the child was foreign born, IF!, then all debate over O’s BC is mote.

      Hello, hidden camera guys, where are you?

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    • its_time_to_arrest_our_government
      Posted on April 23, 2011 at 11:42pm

      do some checking folks if you look up what it takes to be a natural born citizen youll find obama is not one. both of his parents would of had to be american citizens as well as him being born here. thus the term natural. haveing one parents who is kenyan at the time of his birth would make obama 1/2 british his father was never an american. this is what makes obama ineligible to be presinent. his birth cretificate is just a distraction. even if he has one he is still the legal president. just being born here is not enough. this is obama big scam that the democommies and he cooked up with his old buddy sorros. look for yourself just about all his papers are doctored and most are kept in good old chicago. looks like we got a big screw job being pulled on us. now i dont know about you but i say they should all be arrested….THIS IS OUR COUNTRY. WE THE PEOPLE IS US.

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    • thinkinghuman
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 12:47am

      Oh, but didn’t you hear the old lady say that NO ONE could get the real one, the long form, and that only a few doctors have actually seen it, and that even the President himself could not get a copy of it.

      Do they REALLY think that we just buy off on that???

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 1:25am

      He said…She said…who cares…I would like to see the original…he is our president…of all the people in America you would think the president’s birth certificate would be something we could locate and see….still wondering why this hasn’t happened…and why its been blocked as much as it has…TOO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS….

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    • 18Delta
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 4:27am

      It comes down to this he is a national and not a natural born citizen, his can not hold office because his father was not born here read below:
      Status as a natural born citizen of the United States is one of the citizenship requirements for President of the United States, which are set by the United States Constitution for candidates to be eligible for election to the office of President or Vice President.
      Also
      The Department of State occasionally receives requests for certificates of non-citizen national status pursuant to Section 341(b)(2) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), 8 USC 1452(b)(2).
      As the title of the certificate indicates, only a person who qualifies as a non-citizen national (i.e. a person who is a U.S. national but not a U.S. citizen) is eligible to apply for such a certificate
      Very few persons fall within this category since, as defined by the INA, all U.S. citizens are U.S. nationals but only a relatively small number of persons acquire U.S. nationality without becoming U.S. citizens. Thus, Section 101(a)(22) INA states that all U.S. citizens are also nationals of the U.S. However, Section 308 INA confers U.S. nationality but not U.S. citizenship, on persons born in or having ties with “an outlying possession of the United States.” The outlying possessions are defined in Section 101(A)(29) INA as American Samoa and Swains Island. No other statutes define any other territories nor any of the states as outlying possessions. Those enumerated in section 308 INA as eligible for this status, in addition to those mentioned above, are those individuals born abroad to two American non-citizen national parents, or those born abroad to one alien parent and one non-citizen national parent. Also, there is a residency requirement placed upon the parents of the child prior to birth in order to transmit U.S. nationality

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    • 18Delta
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 4:36am

      Also look into the lower left corner of what is being published around the web, It a revised form from 2001, its a copy fake or what ever…

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    • trueblueday
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 7:27am

      It’s very interesting to hear from the mouth of his paternal grandmother and officials in Kenya that he was born there. But, whether or not he was born in this country or somewhere else the topic is moot. Both his parents were not natural born citizens of this country. He is not showing his long form BC for a reason and has spent a great deal of money keeping it hidden. There have been discussions about the possibility of an eligitimate Social Security number (from Connecticut). Even the remote possibility that Barry Soetoro may still be his name. Like Pelosi said, you have to pass it to see what’s in it (Obamacare). I want to see what‘s in Obama’s BC. There has never been any true transparency with this President, and there never will be. Congress is NOT doing their job.

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    • Sgt. Infidel
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 8:23am

      What the would-be sleuths won‘t find is Obama’s “long-form birth certificate,” a confidential one-page document containing his original birth records kept on file in the first floor of the Department of Health.

      Those original birth records typically include additional birth details, such as the hospital and delivering doctor, said Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the state‘s former health director who twice looked at and publicly confirmed Obama’s original long-form birth records.

      THIS is what us “birthers” want. Show the damn thing and be done with it. Instead, the left has successfully chastised anyone that wants the information released and labeled us as nuts. Say it enough times, and it will be so. Thank you Saul Alinski.

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    • Chuck Finley
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 11:14am

      @ Retribution, slam dunk my friend. I don’t believe Barry is the anti-christ, but he sure is paving the way for IT, with every move He makes.

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    • Kalish
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 12:53pm

      “It is absolutely clear to me that he was born here in Hawaii,” Fukino told the AP.

      We are supposed to beleive him ? when this story first came out, obama suddenly went to Hawaii to see his “sick grandmother” I am not denying she was sick, but the timing was kind of ironic, and I don’t think he was visiting her before or since, anyway I am sure that when he was there, he stopped by and talked to a few people to kind of take care of this situation, if you know what I mean, still where is the birth certificate ? I have mine, and where are the nurses and doctors that saw him delivered in Hawaii ?

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    • Hobbs57
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 1:10pm

      Why didn’t they show it to the AP then. That would be simple. There should be no privacy issues, as the President is serving a PUBLIC office. I don’t understand the problem with allowing a third part to witness the original birth certificate.
      Really, a problem that could be given with any person’s birth certificate, is the father listed doesn’t actually mean he is the father. This is only an assumption of the mother. I know a person who listed another man as the father so that she was protected legally from the real father. This raises another question. Does Obama’s father listed on the birth certificate owe any child support ? Did Obama’s mother ever receive cash assistance ? If so, then Obama’sfather is legally obligated to pay the state child support. Is there any record of any of this ?? TO many unanswered questions. No matter what the case with his birth, they are hiding something .

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    • underdawg
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 4:13pm

      It cracks me up that Glenn Beck talks about people calling him names when he comes out with certain information. Yet he is not above calling people birthers and kooks for wanting to see the official birth certificate of Barack Hussein Obama. As a matter of fact, most of the other talking conservative heads are the same way. Which makes me ask, when do the conservative talking heads make more money and sell more books, when there’s a Republican in the White House, or a Democrat? Never underestimate the power of Greed. As Beck has been able to find many documents and videos, the presidents long form birth certificate shouldn’t be any problem.

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    • Enuff Zenuff
      Posted on April 24, 2011 at 6:23pm

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      Calling our failure to certify Obama’s qualifications to be president merely a “distraction” overlooks the massive fraud perpetrated on the American people by the left. When the most sacred and fundamental questions like “Are you qualified to vote?“ and ”Are you qualified to run for president?” are ignored, then we are handing our country on a golden platter to those who block our investigations of these questions.

      The question of Obama’s eligibility was raised even before he was nominated; yet the MSM did everything in their power to crucify the questioners. Simultaneously the Democrats responsible for ensuring eligibility on every state’s ballot buried the question – with the Hawaiian Democrat Party (knowing they could not prove he was born there) merely certifying that Obama’s eligibility to be on the Hawaiian ballot was based upon his having been nominated as the candidate at the Democratic National Convention! (If that isn’t evidence of fraud, I don’t know what is!)

      We cannot allow the corruption in our nominating and voting system to be undermined! – Voting is the most sacred right we have yet it is treated like the least important. We are losing more and more of our liberties with every election. I’m sorry Glen – you’re wrong on this one. The other issues are important too, but so is the question of MASSIVE-scale fraud by the MSM-Democrat Party establishment.

      Obama’s eligibility must be established in a manner that any court would require as a standard of proof – and not just by taking the Democrat party’s “word” for it. They worship Saul Alinsky’s book (dedicated to Lucifer) that teaches everything you need to know about how to lie effectively.

      We need to clearly define what the founding fathers meant when they required the President (alone) to be a “Natural born” citizen. It was obviously an important requirement or they would not have bothered, yet by every possible interpretation I’ve ever read, Obama has not been certified, and probably cannot be…

      The direction Obama has taken our country makes one wonder how the founding fathers could have known that it was an important requirement; but Obama is all the proof we need that the founding fathers knew what they were doing.

      If the Democrats and MSM cannot be faithful to our constitution in such a simple task as establishing proof of eligibility, then we have no hope to expect Obama and the Democrats to be faithful in other things that also matter – so why worry about TARP and Healthcare and budget battles if we cannot even agree on something so simple as proof of eligibility to be president? We should have put a stop to the election until the Supreme Court ruled on the matter.

      Consider this! Lee Harvey Oswald is a man who was famous for only two days of his life – from the day JFK was assassinated until the day LHO was also assassinated… A large part of his young adult life spent behind the very secret iron curtain… yet investigators have amassed over 600 photographs of him throughout his life. We know more about Lee Harvey Oswald and who all his friends were – even behind the iron curtain – than we do about the man sitting in the oval office acting as the President of the United States! If that doesn’t scare you, then you’re not paying attention to the important things. The question of eligibility matters as much if not more than all other questions!

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    • dr_funk
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 2:00am

      I‘ll tell you why we haven’t seen a long-form birth certificate…

      A. Because it was filed as an unattended birth.
      B. Because it lists Lolo Soetoro as the father.
      C. Because it doesn’t exist and the COLB was granted without proof.

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    • dr_funk
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 2:03am

      My best guess: the birth announcement was filed with the newspaper by Barry’s grandparents, which is why their address appears.

      That’s not proof that he was born here.

      I could go out tomorrow and file a birth announcement with my local paper for someone who doesn’t even exist. Know why? Because birth announcements and obituaries ARE NOT LEGAL EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING.

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    • GODSAMERICA
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 7:29am

      “those documents are state government property that can’t be released to anyone, even the president himself,”
      That’s the way that every state is, they do not give out the original birth certificate. That is why they have what is called a “certified copy of the orginal birth certificate” of which anyone can get a copy like that of their own actual birth certificate from ANY state in the country. In fact, I have my certified copy at the county courthouse where I live while the ORIGINAL is where they keep the originals at in the state of my birth.

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    • democratgirl
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:07am

      Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha h

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    • lovenotjudge
      Posted on April 25, 2011 at 12:50pm

      Did I miss something? I thought our president was born Barry? Why would the book record it as Barack Hussein Obama II?

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