AP ‘Spin Meter’ Report: Where Did All the Stimulus Money Go?
- Posted on February 5, 2011 at 2:50pm by
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Congressional Republicans say they want to cut federal spending by raiding $45 billion from President Barack Obama’s politically unpopular economic stimulus program. But they won’t be able to get their hands on most of that money.
At most, only about $7 billion of the $814 billion in economic recovery money awarded under the 2009 federal law hasn’t already been spoken for, according to the latest White House estimates. And Republican leaders now acknowledge they would be lucky to identify as much as $5 billion in stimulus-related spending cuts as part of a plan to save taxpayers $2.5 trillion over 10 years.
Where did the money go?
It’s not that all the stimulus money has been spent; it has been committed for specific projects and programs. In the confusing money flow from Washington to the rest of the country, there’s still about $168 billion in stimulus money that has not actually been paid out, according to the administration. But it says nearly all of that money already is tied up in contracts with companies, obligations with states and local governments, promised taxpayer relief and commitments to government programs.
For states, much of that money for Medicaid and education has been worked into budgets, so if Congress took it back it could leave shortfalls, said Raymond Scheppach, executive director of the National Governors Association. “That would be a serious problem, I think, because they’re depending on that money.”
The unspent money remains in the federal pipeline despite Obama‘s promise that recovery spending would occur swiftly to stimulate the nation’s economy after Congress approved the program nearly two years ago.
Even the $7 billion the White House says is not yet obligated can’t readily be yanked back by Republicans as savings because, administration officials said, planning is well under way for the projects expected to benefit.
“These remaining dollars include funding for major high-speed rail, clean energy and other infrastructure projects that in many cases have already been awarded and just haven’t been formally put under contract,” said Liz Oxhorn, the White House’s spokeswoman for the economic recovery program. “Rescinding these funds could halt job-creating projects years in the making where preliminary work in some cases is already under way.”
The Republican Study Committee, a group of House conservatives, announced a proposal last month to save the government $2.5 trillion over the next decade. Part of its plan involved pulling back $45 billion in stimulus money.
“That was an estimate,” said Brian Straessle, the group’s spokesman. “That was not intended to be taken as an exact figure.”
Part of the problem is determining how much, if any, stimulus money remains in Washington and how much could be recovered, Straessle said. About three-quarters of the $814 billion in stimulus money has been spent or distributed to taxpayers, state and local governments and companies hired to do work under dozens of programs. House Republicans sorting through the federal budget hope to identify money not yet spent or promised to programs, states or local governments in the coming weeks.
Congress could go after some of the unspent money, although it would require undoing commitments made in the stimulus legislation, and no specific proposals have been offered to do that.
House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan announced another Republican austerity plan Thursday, this one to slash spending for domestic agencies by nearly 20 percent. The proposal stems from the GOP pledge to reduce spending to levels in place before Obama took office.
The roughly $168 billion in stimulus money that still hasn‘t been spent is proof that Obama’s program couldn’t deliver the immediate economic jolt promised two years ago, Straessle said. “This is not an attempt at economic stimulus. This is just basic government spending.”
Oxhorn said much of that money — $53 billion — is set aside for promised tax relief and government spending to help taxpayers. And $115 billion more is committed in some cases with signed contracts to ongoing programs and projects, like roads and bridges, energy efficiency and education.
States, local governments and other recipients have been slow to spend some of that money, according to weekly reports from federal agencies. For example, more than $14 billion remains in the pipeline to help doctors and hospitals providing Medicaid and Medicare services to convert to electronic health records; nearly $5 billion remains to help weatherize homes and to help states and local governments develop energy-efficiency strategies.
States also expect to receive continued quarterly Medicaid enhancement payments into the summer, the remainder of an $87 billion recovery program intended to help them through their own financial problems. “Every state in the union has plugged that money into their budgets for the coming year,” said Michael Bird, federal affairs counsel for the National Conference of State Legislatures.
In some cases, the money is set aside to reimburse states and local governments for projects under way, like highway and local airport improvements. Administration officials have warned that tampering with any of that money would leave states and municipalities on the hook for the cost of those projects.
“You’ve got some legal issues if this is money that has been obligated by the states already,” said Scheppach, of the governor’s association. “They’re sort of into breaking contracts at that point.”
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Comments (162)
EZDOZIT
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:35pmThe democracts will get a small cut of as a kickbacks (donations) to their re-elections. Hundreds of millions would be a small percentage of trillions of dollars. Everything the democrats do benefits their staying in power. They end up having republicans and independants pay this money back . It cost taxpayers trillions of dollars for them to stay in power. Watch them,everything they do is for kickbacks or votes.
Report Post »Chicago Ray
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:35pm“so if Congress took it back it could leave shortfalls”
That happens when someone promises someone else money they don’t already have and plan on getting from someone else. They USED TO call that Robbing Peter to Pay Paul. Obama calls it ‘stimulus’, lololol……we call it Porkulus and/or highway robbery.
Report Post »roxee
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:45pmThey used it to hire thugs to fight for the cameras with fake blood, and men to ride camels into Cairo’s square to make the Egyptians look foolish to the West.
Report Post »They used some to pay the guy to hide Obama’s birth certificate.
They used some to put granite countertops in the public housing in Houston,Tx.
They used some to pay ABC,CBS,NBC ,MSNBC,CNN to continue to read scripted lies to the world.
The rest went to Bo’s dog groomer.
MBA
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:30pmWell, I see a major analogy between Mubarach becoming a billionaire over the past 30 years and the politicians in washington all becoming independently wealthy on the taxpayers dime. No need ot wonder where the stimulus money went–audit buckwheat, spanky and darla’s (obamy, barney and nancy) bank accounts. Let’s not forget the union leaders and the ballet dancer as well,
Report Post »beekeeper
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:29pmFrom the above article:
House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan announced another Republican austerity plan Thursday, this one to slash spending for domestic agencies by nearly 20 percent. The proposal stems from the GOP pledge to reduce spending to levels in place before Obama took office.
So that means Obama increased spending by 25% since he took office – that makes him not a “tax and spend” liberal but a “spend and spend” liberal…
Reminds me how he increased salaries across the gov’t, then committed to freezing federal pay for two years, meaning you couldn’t cut the salaries for two years…
Report Post »mcpbob
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:26pmunions got 99 percent of all the stimulus money….. they are all crooks.
Report Post »Fina_Biscotti
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:26pmIf Congress can get a handle on The ObamaS “looting” the US Treasury for their personal pursuits – having nothing to do w “business” for our country – but their own personal business unjustly enriching themselves – while abusing our US taxpayer money to finance their trips and expenditures…w friends and associates.
Government officials in Africa have been removed from office – as UNFIT – one person just for buying a $37,000.00 sports car as his personal government vehicle.
Why isn’t the WASTEFUL SPENDING of THE OBAMAS reined in?
Report Post »beekeeper
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:25pmPity the Gov‘t couldn’t protect Social Security funds as well as they are protecting their “stimulus” funds – funds, I’ll remind you, that we have to borrow before we can spend them…
Report Post »Angelacw
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:23pmWe can start by taking back the money he gave to Brazil to drill for oil off their own shores. Or the money he has filtered to Soros to fund his various energy ventures. Or how about getting back the money he gave to Al Gore to build cars in Europe?
He is robbing our treasury, somebody please stop him!
Report Post »Room 101
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:14pmThey’ll start spending later this year, hoping to get a temporary bump in the economic numbers for 2012 re-election campaign. That spending, or ‘investement’, combined with the effects of QE2, will have the economy cranked up. There will be one heck of a hangover after the party ends…
Report Post »Archstone
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:10pmOK, how much did ACORN get?
Report Post »Fina_Biscotti
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:43pmACORN received direct access to over $8 Billion from within the $787 BILLION Stimulus package.
And that does not include the FREE MONEY to ACORN – from Janet Napolitano of Homeland Security – w $1 Million Caps – that Napolitano has provided to ACORN – under the guise of FIRE SAFETY and FIRE PREVENTION.
Although ACORN has never been in the business industry of fire safety and fire prevention, Napolitano has chosen ACORN as a recepient for GRANTS from her Dept of Homeland Security – over and above the interests of FIRE DEPARTMENTS and police departments that depend on Grant money to buy necessary equipment and supplies to serve their communities.
Some fire departments and police departments received NO MONEY in Grants from Napolitano of Homeland Security…..since she had earmarked it for ACORN to receive Grants….in every city across the USA whereinACORN had an office. When Napoliltano chose ACORN….instead of Fire Departments and Police Departments in Louisiana that received NOTHING in grants, still trying to rebuild their departments in Louisiana after Hurricane Katrina, US Senator David Vitter exposed this Scandal/Scam and exposed it to the media.
This is a SCANDAL and a SCAM that should have Napolitano removed from office – for allowing her position in the US Government to be used for political purposes – continuing to fund ACORN under the radar – after ACORN was defunded by Congress – for their willingness to give advice on how to conceal income from banks and the IRS, and to conceal the nature of a business – in the puchase of a house to run a child prostitution ring – and after the ACORN offices were raided for FRAUD, VOTE FRAUD, VOTER REGISTRATION FRAUD during the 2008 presidential campaign – that Usurper Obozo obstructs from being prosecuted – while continuing to protect and fund ACORN as a CRIME SYNDICATE – when ACORN is a radical leftist organization known for its long history of VOTE FRAUD.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:54pmYou ask a good question, you get a good answer!
Report Post »(Thanks!)
Bullwinkle
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:53pmMust be a coincidence, huh? At least we were able to keep unemployment down. Oh wait…..
Report Post »parmajohn
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:08pmWhy does this remind me of “Uncle Joe” giving the kid a mint while he grabbed the paper he wanted Sight of hand or professional theives? all seems the same when it comes to this White House
Report Post »HippoNips
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:07pmMost of the remainder can be stopped by getting rid of Obamacare, and Obama’s other idiot non-sense
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:12pmYES! … nonsense is correct! The man is full of BAD ideas.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:28pmDefund Planned Parenthood.
Report Post »Defund ACORN.
Defund NPR.
Defund ObamaCare.
Defund Pelosi’s rats.
Defund the Department of Education.
Defund the Department of Energy.
Defund the Department of Commerce.
Defund Czars.
Defund aid to Hamas.
Defund out-of-country commerce (Stimulus I).
Defund bailouts.
MontanaRob
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:07pmPaul Thompson:
I‘m thinkin’ we‘ll let ’em dig their own graves, but I’ve got a dozer to fill it back in.
Just sayin’
Report Post »mhills51
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:05pmI don’t for a second think that any state would sign a contract without the money in their hands. Especially a promise from this administration. It’s all BS!
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:02pmThere’s gonna be changes around here, now pass me more’em peas!
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:02pmWhat a mess. Where’s the money?? Bank robbery right before our very eyes in broad daylight and the cops are working for the bank robbers.
Report Post »Paul Thompson
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:02pmShovel ready?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:05pmTo BURY the Taxpayer!
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:41pmHere’s what I received from GA Senator Johnny Isakson about government spending:
Commitment to American Prosperity Act
We must get back to a point of fiscal sanity in Congress. American families have had to live within their means, and it is time that the federal government does the same. Some in Washington want to cherry-pick ways to cut spending whereas I believe we need a macro approach if we are truly serious about reducing spending.
On Tuesday I joined U.S. Senators Bob Corker, R-Tenn., Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., Richard Burr, R-N.C., Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., Mark Kirk, R-Ill., and John McCain, R-Ariz. in introducing the Commitment to American Prosperity Act, or the “CAP Act,” to significantly reduce total federal spending – both mandatory and discretionary spending – over the next 10 years through limits and caps.
Specifically, the “CAP Act” would establish federal spending limits that will be gradually reduced over 10 years to 20.6 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product, the historical average of federal spending.
In fiscal year 2009, the federal government had a deficit of $1.4 trillion, borrowing almost 40 cents of every dollar. The gap between spending and revenue is almost four times the historic average. Even when the United States reaches historic revenue levels, we are still projected to be spending nearly 6 percent more of our gross domestic product than we take in, and the gap will continue to widen. By 2035, on our current trajectory, U.S. debt will reach 185 percent of GDP.
The “CAP Act” would, for the first time, eliminate the deceptive “off-budget” distinction for Social Security – providing a complete and accurate assessment of all federal spending. The legislation would also put in place a 10-year glide path to cap all spending (discretionary and mandatory) at a declining percentage of the country’s gross domestic product, eventually bringing spending down to the historical average of 20.6 percent of GDP, and if Congress fails to meet the annual cap, authorize the Office of Management and Budget to make evenly distributed, simultaneous cuts throughout the federal budget to bring spending down to the pre-determined level. Only a two-thirds vote in both houses of Congress could override the binding cap.
Report Post »meddlehead
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 6:07pmThe BS was shovel ready.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 10:26pmShovel Ready?
Report Post »That’s right ask any livestock farmer…..they ‘ve been shoveling it since time began!
NeoKong
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:02pm“These remaining dollars include funding for major high-speed rail, clean energy and other infrastructure projects that in many cases have already been awarded and just haven’t been formally put under contract,” said Liz Oxhorn, the White House’s spokeswoman for the economic recovery program.
Bullet train to bankruptcy.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:11pmYes … Gov.Scott (FL) better get with it and refuse that train from Tampa to Orlando .. what a waste .. who is going to park their car (pay for parking) get on a train (pay for trip) arrive in Orlando rent another car (pay for rental) and turn around and do it all over for return trip! When they could drive down I-4 for much much less money and less hassle .. it is such a waste of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and will be a burden on the state.
Green energy .. if it is such a money maker private businesses would be doing it! It is a waste … someday when private investment can make it happen fine .. but for now NO!
Report Post »IntheKnowOG
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:06pmAgreed, nobody wants the “monorail” (al la The Simpsons). That’s why the light rail referendums keep going down in flames. Local radio guy Chris Markowski knows what’s up.
Report Post »what4
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 9:11pmThey can stuff their cho cho where the sun doesn’t shine!
Report Post »JohnQTaxpayer
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:01pmCorruption, looters, liars, thieves, scum
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 10:19pmCorruption, looters, liars, thieves, scum
And that’s just the msm, we won’t even go to the guys they promote with free press.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 2:59pmCome on if you can’t trust a politician with your $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ who can you trust ?
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:24pmGod and Sarah Palin!
Report Post »APatriotFirst
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 2:59pmNot to mention all the $$ that went and will still go into Union pockets.
Report Post »etetetet
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 2:59pmPoof – all gone – and the liberal crowd applauds at this magic trick – ooooooooohhh, that’s so cool, how did he do that
Report Post »DUMBASPELOSI
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 11:31pmWHAT WOULD BE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW – IF THE REPUBLICANS HAD NOT WON THE HOUSE.
THIS IS BAD – but atleast we have a chance to begin turning around this corrupt democrat agenda.
Palin / Bachmann 2012
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:06amPoof its gone. Now do it again Mr. O
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 2:57pmSEIU, GM, Political Election coffers, to Blue States, everywhere but where it was supposed to go. Check under Rahm’s matteress, or maybe that is why Michelles butt has been getting so big, she has a fanny pack full of cash.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:04pmToo TRUE! Payoffs and graft … stimulus? NO.
Report Post »Pray for USA
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 2:56pmCould this be where he’s going to get that billion dollars he wants for his re-election campaign?
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:12pmwhere you getting the money…obama…where’s obama gettin the money…I don’t know…from his stash I guess…we love obama…obama…obama…
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:13pmsaid Scheppach, of the governor’s association. “They’re sort of into breaking contracts at that point.”
Report Post »———-
And the problem is ?
That was OK when it was done to GM and Chrysler’s creditors
Dumbsht
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:15pmNext election bought and paid for.
Report Post »John 1776
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:23pmYou break it, you bought it!
Send the full $800B invoice to Obama, Pelosi and Reid!
They spent our money and we want a refund!
Oh… They don’t have it?
Report Post »Well, time for bankruptcy court! See how they like working at McDonald’s for the rest of eternity.
Shoot-To-Kill
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:26pmWhat a stupid question! “Where did the money go?” Hell‘s bells don’t they know we just had a mid-term election last November. Where do they think the Dems got thier campaign funds? Gezzzsss.
Report Post »FED-UP-AND-READY-TO-TAKE-ACTION
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:36pmIt is SO easy to give away someone else’s money. When they give to all the have nots who did not derserve it where do they think it came from………..from all us suckers who do work and do pay taxes………
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:46pmDuped Again!
Report Post »The time has come to put the legislators feet to the fire.
TERM LIMITS
FED-UP-AND-READY-TO-TAKE-ACTION
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:53pmThey cannot truly say where a lot of it went. They just gave to everyone with their hand out………well the ones who they feel were their supports and like minded………Not if they were giving their money away it would be a different story, but as I said in the last post, so easy to give someone else’s money away without caring where it went and what for……………got to get them out before we are to far gone to recover…………..VICTORY OR DEATH
Report Post »oldoldtimer
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 3:54pmStimulus receivers are funneling part of the money back to Obama through Chicago banks and prepaid credit cards. Just like they did in Sept 08 Obama raised more money in 1 month than any previous candidate had in their whole campaign. $178 million in 1 month. But it was all small Mom amd Pop donations. Right. Like I believe that. They have already tested the method and now they will use it again.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:00pmSorry folks but your credit card has been swiped to pay for the parties programs. I guess elections do count? Wait for the backlash when someone gets the credit card bill, or maybe there is no plan to pay the bill? Anyway the heist is over so just move on, nothing to see here.
Report Post »Enuff Zenuff
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:00pm.
The article ssid, “For states, much of that money for Medicaid and education has been worked into budgets, so if Congress took it back it could leave shortfalls, said Raymond Scheppach, executive director of the National Governors Association. “That would be a serious problem, I think, because they’re depending on that money.”
What about the fact that WE TAXPAYERS had worked that money into OUR budgets??? What about MY shortfalls when I can’t afford educational activities for MY children??? What about the serious problems created by the fact that I was depending on that money for my retirement???
WHAT the liberals never consider are the consequences for those of us who had to give up all that money! – Why the Frick do they always act like it is their money??? I earned it! Who the Frick do they think they are – thinking they know how to spend it better than I do?
Republicans need to start watching out for the average taxpayer better. Damn right they need to save taxpayers trillions of dollars & I got no problem with taking it back from the leeches in Conress who’re always thinking they know better than me how to spend my money!
I read an article this morning from some other liberal whack job supporting a tax on soda pop because “We can use the money to build parks”. No acknowledgement of what the people paying the taxes might want to use the money for! If we want a damn park, then we’ll vote for a bond issue to build it… I‘m so ’sick & tired’ of the way politicians never consider the fact that the taxpayers are far better at spending our money on the priorities we consider to be far more important than what they consider.
Believe me, my money will not get wasted if you don’t tax it from me. I do a lot to serve my family, my church, and my neighborhood and that’s as it should be. I‘m not on welfare and I’ve taken care of myself and my family and a few others’ too! Beyond that, what could some idiot in Washington do with my money better than I’m doing already… I’m so far beyond “Enough is enough”! DOes the English language even have a word for ‘beyond outrage’?
The Republicans had better not listen to these lame arguments about how the stimulus money was already committed. They need to take it back from those stimulus commitments – ALL $167 BILLION of it – Hell, it’s all borrowed anyway! At the very least take it back to keep it from adding more to the national debt!
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:01pmYou dumbsh@@s dont know anything. The money is being printed. It takes time for that to happen. Rgere are only so many printing presses. It has not hit the economy yet.
When it does, it will not create jobs, it will create inflation and possily HYPERINFLATION.
When it costs 50 bucks for a candy bar, remember I told you ro stock up on food you fool…
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:04pmIt’s not the confusing money flow in Washington, it’s the predictable money flow of the Obama administration. If you are going to be an “elite” when Obama’s regime gets finished you have to have seed money. I would make them produce a paper trail on Monday and use a fine tooth comb to go through it. As for future allotments, keep that comb handy. Wonder how much is very, very bogus.
Report Post »chuck
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:19pmYep, I have that firm belief, Showtime, this imposter won’t have to be voted out, he will be exposed, if he does run, what a dilemma, eh? If he pulls a fast willy and does produce, and still gets voted out, does he then invoke executive emergency powers? LOL, doubt it, unless he has an emergency up his sleeve, you never know with those waskily wefty wabbits?? Here‘s to a smooth transition in the USA’s govt…
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:22pm@ Enuff Zenuff
Report Post »AMEN Brother. I am in your camp.
Showtime
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:49pm@CHUCK -
Report Post »You just turned on a lightbulb! That is something to think about — what can/will he do if backed into a corner? And, what can we do about it? I don’t get the impression he will give up without a fight.
Showtime
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:51pmJanuary 20, 2009
Report Post »THE BEGINNING
OF AN ERROR!
neverending
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:58pmof cours
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 5:09pm@Pray for USA
Yes, it is a legalized form of bribery and graft to gain support for the 2012 elections coming ahead of us. Just like Roosevelt did in his day.
Report Post »1TrueOne55
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 7:19pmIt has been handed out to the time frame for voting in the 2012 election cycle. Jobs in certain areas of the economy like construction will increase and that will have Progressives crowing that they created new jobs and to keep them in office. And some will fall for this since they only vote with their wallets, it is those voters that will end up crying the loudest when the Progressives stop the money flow to create riots and chaos so that they can bring the top down with Communism/Socialism or some other form if “‘ism” that suits their power hunger.
Where is 007 when you need him.
Report Post »Ryan Beaulieu
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 7:20pmWhy isn’t Michael Moore making a film where he goes to DC and confronts the president with his little duffel bags asking “Where’s our money?”
Here’s the guide to answering all problems that is wrong in the world:
- It’s Glenn Becks fault
- It‘s Rush’s Fault
- It’s Sarah Palins Fault
- It‘s the right’s fault
- It’s the Republicans Fault
- It‘s George Bush’s fault
- It’s global warmings fault (The fall of the Roman Empire lol)
I tell bill collectors when they call that I cant pay due to global warming. It works.
Report Post »ANTISOCIAL-IST
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 7:43pmcall me stupid, but his sounds like taking out a loan for a home years before you even start looking, but having to pay the interest back every month. even though the whole stimulus is more about re-election than anything (get all that big money into the system right around election time so things look peachy), why wouldn‘t you borrow the money at the time you’re ready to implement the project(s)? oh, well, they needed to know if they had the money to do the projects…yeah, right, they got the money printers running overtime. then again, i’m not a lefty-loon, so just disregard my trying to be somewhat logical.
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 9:14pmI’ve read about halfway down the first post thread and all I see is a bunch of (rightous) vitreol from posters here, but no solutions. YES we are all angry, YES we are all fed up, and we all know it.
Now what?
We all need to start thinking about ways to catch this spinning out-of-control spree and we need to do that NOW. Rand Paul, just last week had a bill in hand ready to be argued and voted on that would cut BILLIONS out of the budget, fiscal year NOW and was ridiculed by the MSM (big surprise). I sadly have no links to that at this time, but i saw him on Fox i believe outlining his plan. It was sound, and included defunding MANY agencies, including DoD, and eradication of some more (Federal DoE was one). We need to pay attention to who in Congress is really fighting for US and give them (and our own Representatives) our support.
In the meantime, when the phone calls fail, go here
http://www.savingtherepublic.com/welcome.html
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Report Post »keithh1981
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 9:34pm@lionB, Glenn beck don’t advertise to prop them up. Glenn Beck is not one to silence anybody, he likes all points of views and wants it badly. Especially when the people in these videos is putting themselves into a deep whole with their relationship among the majority of the American people. Everytime they speak they prove who they are.
He is putting their words out in the public eye the best way he can since the other news outlets sure won’t.
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Posted on February 5, 2011 at 9:41pmThe money has been spoken for?!?
Hey! When you recover money from a robbery, you don’t say “we can’t get it back because the robbers have already promised cuts to the rest of the mob”! YOU … RECOVER … THE … STOLEN … MONEY!
Simple, no?
Democrats are in that mob. Some Republicans are starting to show THEIR colors, too.
“Break’s over, boys. Don‘t just lay there gettin’ a suntan. Ain’t gonna do you no good anyhow. Now take this shovel and put it to some good use.” -boss Taggart, Blazing Saddles
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 10:05pmNow just watch the shells, see my hands move, where’s the pea, is it under here, how about this one, no, maybe it’s under here. >>Everybody’s been wrong about this guy all along, he could easily make a living on any street corner in NYC, meanwhile, Bernanke (spelling?) the Czars, and the Fed, could all work the crowd, HEY MAYBE WE OUGHTTA SEND THEM OUT, THAT’D BALANCE THE BUDGET REAL QUICK!!! >>
Report Post »Sounds just like what happened everytime Congress allotted money directed to strengthen the levees, and ask anyone how effeciently that money was spent!!!
Timekeeper
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 10:13pmThat is the 1st thing I thought when reading the article. We remember how ACORN was setup… a confusing labrynth of businesses much like a crime syndicate would setup to launder money….
Report Post »Hmmm.,
My Sacred Honor
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 10:47pmgLENN ACTUALLY DID OUTINE THAT fdr ASKED FOR, AND RECEIVED “STIMULOUS MONEY” FROM CONGRESS AND WITHHELD 75% OF IT TILL HIS NEXT ELECTION
Report Post »and my capslock was on again, and again, i refuse to go back and repost.
Where FDR gave monet to those counties where the election was in question, in states where the election was in question, not only for himself but congress as well. Expected was a landslide republican victory all around, but they “spread the wealth” so well that not only did he win the presidency, congress also maintained their democratic majority.
Translated into now?
Obama is saving the monet to put into state-swinging counties that may sway him back for another 4 years.
And, as i asked on another post, “then what” America?
Then what?
touch
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 10:57pmYep, and more from his Muslim Brotherhood too.
Report Post »DaytonConserve
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 12:11pmEvery contract ever written to spend federal dollars has a clause stating that if federal funding disappears, the contract is terminated early.
Report Post »TruthTalker
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 2:51pmIt went to the crooks.
Report Post »Jackers
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 7:51amWhere did all of the money go? I would guess that a bulk of it went to unions and other entities that supported Barack Obama during the 2008 Presidential Election because this “Economic Stimulus” bill certainly did nothing to stimulate our economy!
As for “shovel-ready” jobs… How about building that 700-mile, double-layered southern border fence that President Bush signed into law five years ago?
Report Post »Marcobob69
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:35amWhy don’t they just fess up and tell us they gave it to their political “friends”! Hell, 99% of the people already know these crooks feed their own off the taxpayers. Why else do ya think they want to keep their power so badly; so they can keep right on fleecing the public!!!
Report Post »OnToppaThat
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:24amunion bailouts…..as campaign payback, as are ‘the contracts”….all payback
Report Post »Jim in Houston
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 10:34amThe only shovel needed for the “Shovel Ready Jobs” is the one to shovel up the crap spewed by Obumbler and the democRats.
Report Post »DMcPher316
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:26pmyou read this and it isn’t hard to figure out that they DO NOT know ere the money is,was or will be. How the hell can you run ANYTHING if you don‘t know what you’re spending on?
Report Post »DisillusionedDaily
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:42pmWhen will the liberals face up to the fact that high speed rail is not a program the people want tax money spent on? If it is something that will generate a profit then private industry will build it. All of these trains will be built by Siemens and GE in Chinese factories. I do not want one cent of stimulus, (my tax money), spent on this crap.
As for green energy projects—-let the marketplace and private enterprise take care of this. Ethanol will fail if the government subsidies are withdrawn. The market for ethanol is false. The only real use for corn ethanol is to drive food prices upwards and make Soros another pile of money in the commodities market.
And, you folks are absolutely right in assuming that a large portion of the stimulus money will find its way into the pockets of the union bosses. The rank and file will not see one penny of this money. It is a crying shame that the rank and file union members cannot see what their union leaders are doing to them. Where is their medical and retirement fund money? They ought to ask their leaders.
Okay. The soapbox is put away. Bye!!!!!
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