AP: The Once ‘Solid South’ Not All-Red or All-Blue Anymore
- Posted on August 19, 2012 at 1:52pm by
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This photo taken June 27, 2012, shows Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney campaigning with Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell in Sterling, Va. Before the election of President Barack Obama, Virginia had not sided with Democrats on the presidency since Lyndon Johnson in 1964. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)
ATLANTA (AP) — The “Solid South” was a political fact, benefiting Democrats for generations and then Republicans, with Bible Belt and racial politics ruling the day.
But demographic changes and recent election results reveal a more nuanced landscape now as the two major parties prepare for their national conventions. Republicans will convene Aug. 27 in Florida, well established as a melting-pot battleground state, to nominate Mitt Romney of Massachusetts. Democrats will toast President Barack Obama the following week in North Carolina, the perfect example of a Southern electorate not so easily pigeon-holed.
Obama won both states and Virginia four years ago, propelled by young voters, nonwhites and suburban independents. Virginia, long a two-party state in down-ballot races, had not sided with Democrats on the presidency since Lyndon Johnson in 1964. Jimmy Carter in 1976 had been the last Democratic nominee to win North Carolina. Each state is in play again, with Romney needing to reclaim Florida and at least one of the others to reach the White House.
Southern strategists and politicians say results will turn again this year on which party and candidates understand changing demographics and voter priorities.
“The transformation of the South seems to never end,” said Mo Elleithee, a Democratic campaign consultant with deep experience in Virginia and federal elections. “Now it’s beginning to emerge, at least parts of it, as solidly purple.”
New citizens, birth rates, and migration patterns of native-born Americans make high-growth areas less white, less conservative or both. There is increasing urban concentration in many areas. African-American families are moving back to the South after generations in Chicago, New York or other northern cities.
Young religious voters are less likely than their parents to align with Republicans on abortion and same-sex unions. Younger voters generally are up for grabs on fundamental questions like the role of the federal government in the marketplace.
“I wouldn’t say the South is any more ideologically rigid than anywhere else in the country. Certainly, it’s complicated,” said former Gov. Phil Bredesen of Tennessee. Bredesen, a Democrat, won twice while Republican George W. Bush occupied the White House. Before that, Bredesen was a two-term mayor of Nashville.
Republican Haley Barbour of Mississippi, a former national party chairman and two-term governor, said the demographics are important but can be overemphasized. He acknowledged GOP concerns that Hispanics will vote Obama in proportions Romney cannot overcome “if the election for them is only about immigration.” But, he added, “Never mind that their unemployment is so much higher than the national average. … If the election for them is about the economy, we can do well.”
Virginia grew from 7 million people to 8 million from 2000 to 2010, according to the census. North Carolina went from 8 million to 9.5 million. Both states were 65 percent white, a drop from 72 percent in each state. Native North Carolinians made up 58.6 percent of the population, a proportion that topped 70 percent two decades ago. Virginia is now half transient or immigrant.
“The North Carolina that Sen. (Jesse) Helms ran in was certainly different than today,” said GOP campaign strategist Brian Nick, referring to the cantankerous five-term Republican senator. Nick worked for Helms’ successor, Republican Elizabeth Dole.
Similar growth, migration and race trends are evident in Tennessee and Georgia, though they haven’t yielded the same party outcomes. In those states, white voters still break strongly for Republicans.
Republican Sen. Johnny Isakson of Georgia said “it would be dishonest” to argue race is not a prominent consideration in historical party identification, but he said race and demographics are not a primary driver in the state today. Isakson said it was new residents in metro Atlanta who helped the GOP take near total control of state government, with their votes based more on unseating entrenched powers than anything to do with social conservatism or old alliances based on race.
For decades after post-Civil War Reconstruction, the Lincoln Republicans were unwelcome in the South. Democratic loyalty intensified under Franklin Roosevelt and the New Deal. But the civil rights movement marked a split. “Dixiecrats” walked out of the 1948 nominating convention. In 1964, after Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, Republican nominee Barry Goldwater‘s margins in a handful of Deep South states looked like FDR’s three decades before.
From then until 2008, only Carter of Georgia and Bill Clinton of Arkansas managed Democratic victories in states that once belonged to the Confederacy. Both are native Southerners. Bredesen, a New York native, said he was called a “carpetbagger” in his earliest campaigns.
Heading into November, the former Confederate states have just five Democrats in the Senate and only a handful of white Democrats in the House. The GOP has a majority in one or both legislative chambers in all of those states except Arkansas.
There are outliers.
Kentucky re-elected a Democratic governor last year after sending tea party favorite Rand Paul to the Senate. While Republican presidential nominees rolled in North Carolina, Democrats Jim Hunt and Mike Easley were successful governors. Then, after Obama won the state, Republicans in their next cycle took both legislative chambers. Democratic Gov. Bev Perdue isn’t seeking re-election and Democrats could lose half of their U.S. House seats, including two vacated by incumbents.
In Virginia, counties outside metropolitan Washington, D.C., and along the Atlantic coast helped elect a succession of Democratic governors and U.S. senator and swung to Obama in 2008. Then they went solidly for Republican Bob McDonnell in the 2009 governor’s race.
The lesson, Nick and Elleithee said, is to know your audience.
Nick, the North Carolina Republican, said Democrats like Hunt and Easley talked effectively about education and maintained good relationships with the state’s banking, technology and research sectors. Now, he said, Republicans are learning to talk about “kitchen-table issues” and economic security, rather than leaning on social issues.
Elleithee, the Democratic consultant on Virginia races, noted the influence of federal contracting in driving the economy of northern Virginia, where votes often settle the statewide result. Debates over spending and the deficit play differently than in other parts of the country. “People hear a `cuts only’ approach and think, `that‘s my job’ or `that‘s my neighbor’s job,’” he said.
Bredesen, along with Rep. Heath Shuler, one of the North Carolina Democrats who isn’t running again, said even with advantageous demographic shifts, their party should still try to reclaim native white Southerners.
Shuler, a member of the Blue Dog caucus, said Southerners aren’t as divided as it sometimes appears. He lamented a hyper-partisan atmosphere in Congress that he said spills into party primaries that, in turn, yield extreme options for a general election. Given much of the region’s conservative bent, that dynamic has helped Republicans, he reasoned.
Nationally, Bredesen said, Democrats lost their connection with many small-town and rural whites because of a confluence of issues beyond race: Vietnam War protests, gun control, abortion, Supreme Court appointments, gay marriage. “I think the extent to which the national party has made a crusade out of some of these issues has driven people away,” he said. To connect with distinct urban, suburban and rural populations, Bredesen said, parties must “appreciate the whole diversity of experiences Americans have in this country.”
Barbour said Republicans should win over the growing nonwhite population based on policy. “The change in the South has been evolutionary, and I expect it to continue,” he said. “But people in demographic groups evolve, too. Besides African-Americans, who are pretty firm (for Democrats), most other groups ebb and flow.”
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waspanglosaxon
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:11amLet’s face it, folks – we just don’t have the numbers of decent people to elect a decent government anymore. The only place where ‘diversity’ could be considered in any way a good thing is in one’s investment portfolio – and even there, the rule’s not always 100%.
Report Post »georgette
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 5:22pmthe southerners I’ve met are varied
–want to be left alone…they don’t like the govt telling them what to do–period.
- chat with a northerner like you’re old friends…will not, however, invite you to their home
-like re-enactments of battles, black powder shooting, music , hunting, NASCAR,and music
– lost a relative in the civil war
–say “hell no it ain’t over”…referring to the civil war
–are raising their grandkids
–have a family member using drugs
–are on welfare ….. will go along to keep the check coming
–many are rich
–some sound “southern”, some don’t
–like pickup trucks, boats , sports cars, and the military
-“got to make a living”…legal or otherwise
–never sell the farm…it stays in the family
–don’t tear a building down…it will fall down on its own
-some are conservative,
-some are gop or dem
-some hate northerners…some tolerate them…a few don’t mind them
–approve of the good old boy system
–some love city life…others don’t
–think conning a northerner is a sport..
–love flea markets, garage sales, second hand stores
–some go to church on Sunday and live like it…some don’t
–tried going north…hated it…came home
–left the south…never coming back
–worked in the north…came “home” to retire …
-have families that have been there forever… related to almost everybody else
sounds like the “rest of the country”, although… that phrase could offend a southerner
Report Post »matt1776
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 11:32pmPlenty of people still living in the holler getting welfare checks will vote their pocket books, combine that with big cities which are notoriously liberal, its no wonder the south is a mixed bag.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 11:12pmThe South is quickly falling apart and real southerners need to step it up times 100 to band together with locals and make this inhospitable to outsiders. For years the carpetbaggers and foreigners have taken advantage of our southern hospitality but now it is out of control, it is no longer just a few seasonal visitors but huge migration patterns into our communities. We probably only have about 50% real native Southerners in the state and the rest are transplants that have come to take advantage of us and steal what we have. The foreigners come to steal our jobs, buy our land, and form their own communities and turn our own into a foreign country. It’s time to do whatever it takes to hinder outsiders from gaining a foothold in our southern states, that includes not hiring them for jobs, not selling them property, not renting to them, not supporting them in any way so that they will go back to where they came from. The carpet baggers and foreigners are even starting to enter positions of power and influence by getting in our local governments and therefore sell us out even more to outsiders. We need to take back our States and work for the good of locals, let the outsiders go back to their homes and do whatever it is they do, we don’t want their garbage coming to the South!
Report Post »atechgeek
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 8:29am@kickillegalsout : While I agree with your user name, I have to say that your comment about Northern Aggression is a wee bit outdated and frankly … well .. stupid. People are free to move from State to State as they please and it is usually job related. If I can’t find a job here in NC and I could in MA, I will move there. Being a native of NC, and I do not like many of the northern people or influences, it is was it is and saying we need to take the southern states back is suggesting civil war and bigotry. How would you suggest we round up all the northerners and send them back ? If the area you live in does not suit you any more .. then move. There are plenty of rural .. small town .. off the beat and path places to live in the south that still hold the qualities you are looking for.
Report Post »happ77
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 10:16amIt’s like Mark Levin says liberals are like locusts, they ruin one state then
Report Post »move to another and ruin it.
ematsko
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:11amWhile I understand your fear regarding Northern aggression, I have to add this note:
If you can make the trip in these times (have equity in your property to sell it or have enough buying power and credit to sell it, find an employer who is hiring and has exhausted the local market for qualified employees and have the skills the employer needs, have the fortitude to move everything you and your family have 500 or so miles), I would suggest we are the best the North has to offer.
I also would suggest Southerners use our first-hand knowledge of the Liberal infection and join with us to fight it. We are leaving for a reason……….. the Northeast is LOST.
If we throw off current alliances that weigh us down, follow Conservative ideals and join together we can make the South an economic power that would rival any other country.
I come with hat in hand to help rebuild prosperity by any means possible.
Report Post »UnreconstructedLibertarian
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:30pmEMATSKO,
There are many good northerners. I’ve had many as employees over the years. Quite frankly, they understand the “liberal disease” better than alot of southerners. When I listen to Aaron Lewis’ song “Country Boy” – no doubt he feels about his home in Massachusetts as I do about my own in Tennessee. However, he flies the Gadsden – I fly the 3rd National – and if you care to ask independently how we feel about them – you’d get the same answer.
Which is exactly why we haven’t “thrown off alliances and gotten together”. The south has suffered 160 years of historical denial: while preserving “right to work”, fiscal conservatism in the administration of our states, and generally minding our own business like free people ought to. Yet we are to forget the virtuous aspects of our culture and history as if it was never of importance?
I hate to tell you this, but if the entirety of southern history/culture is as evil as its called in 2012 – conservatism on any level is doomed to disappear. The liberal model of demonizing conservatism in the south is being applied universally – to the acceptance of even northern conservatives. Its a self-inflicted suicide that you don’t comprehend. We can accept what we had wrong, but its high time we got credit for what we’ve had right.
I absolutely agree that its time we really “reconciled” based on shared constitutional values and history. To do so is Washington DC’s worst nightmare – and they know it.
Report Post »hunter1riley
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 8:19pmAP wishful thinking. It’s plenty red down here. Check the state legislatures. Look at the last couple of elections. Bresden in Tn gone. Replaced by GOP. If the Democrats hadn’t swerved so far to the left they might still play down here. But plenty of folks have no interest in leftist ideology.
Report Post »UnreconstructedLibertarian
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 1:03amI’ll have to say that Bredesen was more fiscally conservative than the Republican he followed. Also, Haslam is following Bredesen’s budget to the letter.
Bredesen made more than one attempt at Governor, unsuccessfully. His first approaches were very “righteous” in a yankee way. However, by the time he got elected, he had ditched that and made very good fiscal pitches to fix the socialistic health care that a GOP governor had instituted. Bredesen even went on record against Obamacare, because TennCare was eating 80%+ of Tennessee’s budget per annum. Bredesen fixed that – and actually built the cash reserves of the state back up to where they were before – without new or increased taxes of any kind.
Cash reserves that floated TN through the worst of the ‘08 downturn – and they are now building back up.
Bredesen is disappointing me these days – because he appears to be jumping on the national Democratic bandwagon. The way he adminstered TN’s fiscal situation – you‘d never know he wasn’t a Republican. Evidenced by the fact his GOP successor hasn’t modified the budget Bredesen left behind.
Report Post »droddyc
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 8:07pmI live in SC on the border of North Carolina. I work in Charlotte. I am really glad I do not live there. The tax revenue that NC is losing do to their politics is tremendous. The border towns on the SC side have grown quite steadily in the last 10 years. I live 10 minutes from the border and my town has tripled in the last 10 years. What bothers me the most is that most of the people leaving these Liberal havens to get away from the crime – high taxes, etc. go somewhere else and try to implement the same rules on their new town. The same rules that ruined the last town they lived in. I do not mind growth. I do not mind people wanting a better life for their children. The problem is they don’t understand they are the problem not the cities. It is the people who need to open their eyes to what their social beliefs are and to what they think the government should and should not control. To bad we can’t decide to send some of them back across the border to NC. Seems they miss it since they are trying to recreate it in SC.
Report Post »BigDaddyTex
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 8:24pmSame thing’s been happening in Texas for years. People come in from places that they hate and complain because people in Texas are so “backwards” and commence trying to turn the state into the place they left!
Reminds me of that old Eagles song from the ‘70’s:
Report Post »“You call some place paradise, you kiss it good-bye…”
KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 11:16pmThis is a problem all across the South because our hospitality has been taken advantage of for years, now we have half our populations who are carpetbaggers and unwanted foreigners who want to change our towns into their own image. They don’t respect locals one bit and just seek to take advantage of us and drive us out. They ruined their hometowns and now the parasites move on to a healthy host to destroy us too. It’s time to fight back against the outsiders in the South.
Report Post »majasdad
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 7:01pm@DOWNWITHDEMS
Report Post »Yeah right…. and get ready for your next “amazing” surprise when you are brusquely awakened from your slumber and realize you had dreamt the whole thing. Not to mention the horrible surprise you’ll get in November.
soybomb315_II
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 5:21pmif the republicans want to win the south, they should start talking about making the federal government smaller and leaving more issues to the states to decide
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 5:47pmThat’s all they ever “talk” about. It’s the “doing” that’s the issue.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 7:28pmIf the GOP wanted to win they wouldn’t of selected the Mormon who won;t tell you the details of any of his plans and the blunder kid that worships the atheist Rand as his pushes granny down a hill.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 8:22pm@encinom
Report Post »Paul Ryan has disavowed Ayn Rand….Try to keep up
encinom
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 1:08pmsoybomb315_II
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 8:22pm
@encinom
Report Post »Paul Ryan has disavowed Ayn Rand….Try to keep up
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He disavowed her this past week when he realized it will be an issue with the bible thumpers. Honesty isn’t a virtue Ryan has.
AllLost
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 4:02pmLibs vote for people that make policies that ruin states. Then they get fed up with the poor service, high taxes, and high crimes. Next, like a swarm of locus they flee to solid conservative states to reap the benefits of conservative policies only to reinstate the policies in that state that ruined the states they came from.
Maybe it is time to have border patrol at states borders and require visa’s etc.
Report Post »Verceofreason
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:49pmYou can blame whacko FLORIDA on that.
Report Post »Scott, West and even ZIMMERMAN have opened peoples’s eyes.
GoodStuff
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 5:48pmVerce of stupidity opens his mouth once again.
Report Post »majasdad
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 6:50pmExactamente.
Report Post »Want our country back
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:14pmJust a snippet from a great article at American Thinker entitled:
Precious U.S. Citizenship: Diminished and Given Away by Obama
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/precious_us_citizenship_diminished_and_given_away_by_obama.html#ixzz241M3CKaR
Even more painful, Obama continues to lower the bar of what it means to be an American.
Report Post »Obama’s speeches and actions imply that he would like to rewrite the words at the base of our Statue of Liberty to read: “Bring me your lazy, entitlement-minded, class-envious haters of achievement. Bring me those who pervert God’s original intent, the baby-killers, the deadbeats. I offer America to you with open arms.”
The value and worth of U.S. citizenship is yet another item on a growing list of sacred laws (the Constitution), freedoms, and principles Obama has sacrificed on the socialist/progressive altar of evil to purchase four more years. He needs all this and more to complete his vowed fundamental transformation of America. God help us.
mecanic
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:52pmi think at this point it’s…..GOD SAVE US FROM THE OBAMNATION.
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:59pmYes he will do that. Then when things get so bad that people demand the government do something. Then he will step in and claim the throne. Those same people will be treated like canon fodder.
Report Post »ZaphodsPlanet
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:59pmAs my Dad used to say to me as a kid, “Wish in one hand and crap in the other, then see which one fills up first”. The AP is the source off all the worthless crap in the drive by media. And they can come up with bogus information all they want, that’s what they really specialize in anyway, but no matter what they say, it won’t change the fact that they are going to LOSE!. Blaze… please stop posting crap from the AP. I won’t read it. They’ve proven themselves to be the vile liars and commies that they are, to expect anything honest out of them is like expecting BO to tell the truth. It’s just not going to happen. Hopefully they’ll go 6 feet under, right along with newspapers and the networks in the coming years. This is just another piece of the pie that is designed to depress us (conservatives & libertarians).
Report Post »VaWolf
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:09pmThe reason that the AP, Washington Post, Nbc & Abc are so Liberal leftist is because of “Scary Dude” Soros. He has MAJOR MONEY …. M A J O R $ $ $ tied up in these so called journalist rags and reels.
Remember folk
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER AND THEY WISH TO HOLD US POWERLESS!
!!!GOD!!! Bless America
Report Post »Shalom
not funny
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:16pmFour more…..months!
Report Post »JohnLarson
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:54pmRepublicans can’t rely on just the white vote anymore… but they’re too racist to ever attract enough minorities.
I look forward to Republicans reaching permanent minority status themselves.
Report Post »pissantno.10
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:00pmyou are a good comunist vlad is so happy for your support
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:03pmI think ur going blind
Report Post »JohnLarson
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:11pmBlind? Have you seen the latest census? It’s demographics, they’re changing.
Report Post »not funny
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:18pmFour more….months!
Report Post »Attila_the_Hunney
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:20pmOnce the illegals are deported, the refugees turned away and citizenship halted, you won’t be so sanguine. Oh, lets not forget the repatriation process escorting leftists out of America to countries they love and respect… that would be you.
Report Post »DownWithDems
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:27pmNot so fast pal ………
Was at a party last night and had an amazing surprise.
Every black person there was middle class, and not one will be voting for Obama.
There were 3 gay couples there and guess what, they are not voting for Obama.
All of the above said that Obama is full of crap and is harming our country economically.
They also said that they would prefer a Mormon over a Muslim. Gotta love it.
ROMNEY – RYAN 2012
Report Post »JohnLarson
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:28pm@ atilla the hunney
Not only would all those fantasies need to happen for Republicans to survive, but all the legal minority immigrants would have to be deported, and we’d need to stop accepting new immigrants. And all Hispanics here would need to stop having babies… and we all know how much they love having large families.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:29pm@JohnLarson
2008 Presidential election:
“McCain won whites 55-43 percent, while Obama won blacks 95-4 percent,[228] Hispanics 67-31 percent, and Asians 62-35 percent.”
95 to 4?
And we’re the Racists?
Idiot…
Report Post »JohnLarson
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:30pm@ DOWNSYNDROME
Sounds like that was a fun fictional party.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:31pmI am a registered Republican & my spouse is a minority. I am not unique. I think John Larson’s view of Republicans ion particular & the world in general is incorrect, bigoted & partisan ( in the pejorative sense of the word).
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:36pmJohnLarson
Blind? Have you seen the latest census? It’s demographics, they’re changing
***
Ya, like only Democrats can recruit.
All new immigrants want the government to take most of their money, give a little back for their needs (as pols determine them). They want government to determine if they can get into college based on a quota system & for the government to give them a loan if they promise not to speak out.
In the long run immigrants will not vote Democrat. The Democrat party will be defunct within the next 20 years
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:45pmGeorge Bush did much better than McCain did among minorities. In 2000 he actively courted Muslims. He made high profile trips to Mexico & he meant business. The Bush’s speak Spanish & some have Hispanic spouses. They are more typical of Republicans than McCain.
This election Romney will win 9 to 11% of the black vote. He will win more than 30% of the Jewish vote. These things will cause Barak Obama to lose.
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 4:03pmOnly a suicidal white person would write that and believe it. When whites got here we were outnumbered. So what’s new. When the government becomes useless like the South African government has become, then we will know what to do.
Report Post »iblvingd
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 5:02pm@John Would you please list all these Republicans you speak about? Are you one of them? If not how can you speak for them? John how is it that you wish “minority status” on someone. What exactly does that mean? It seems that wishing a status of something on someone, falls in the line of hatred and bigotry or is racist too doesn’t it?
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 5:56pm“I look forward to Republicans reaching permanent minority status themselves.”
Perhaps you missed the 2010 elections. Perhaps you missed Wisconsin.
Also, all the young, rising, minority political stars are Republican. Rubio, Cruz, S. Martinez, M. Love, Jindal, Haley, Furtuno, T. Scott.
Can’t name a single young Dem. Except Obama, and he’s a total failure.
Also, demographics are actually in our favor. Leftist parents have one child on average. Conservative parents have 2-3 kids. You guys are contracepting and aborting yourselves out of existence.
I think the Dems are screwed and you’re in denail.
Report Post »muzikant
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 5:58pmYou gotta start thinking for yourself instead of repeating the usual democrat talking points that you see on msnbc. but then again… its hopeless
Report Post »you are a democrat robot. you cant htink for yourself
13Lena
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 6:20pmWhat a racist reply. Democrats are the ones who are racist violent and idiots. Democrats are the ones who owned slaves and started the klu klux clan. How stupid are you? Republicans freed the slaves. Jesus how much longer do we have to keep informing people who haven’t a clue.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 6:36pmyeah true, do you know what Romney’s book of mormon says about minorities, pretty bad stuff.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 8:57pmIndividualism & John Larson
I would like to say this Real Life 101 for you, but is more remedial than that. More like Real Life 99
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/23/us/for-black-mormons-a-political-choice-like-no-other.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
http://www.blacklds.org/
“There have been several black members of the Quorums of the Seventy”
Report Post »http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mormons#Black_people_in_church_leadership
italy2007
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 6:59amPlease provide facts that Republicans are Racists – What majority in Congress had many members who voted against the Civil Rights Act – who are the racists?
Report Post »majasdad
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:13am@DOWNWITHDEMS
Report Post »Yeah right.. and get ready for your next “amazing” surprise when you are brusquely awakened from your slumber and realize you had dreamt the whole thing. Not to mention the horrible surprise you’ll get in November.
Andy
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:33amI’m a racist towards people like you that leave comments like that. Hatred will be returned in favor to hatred. Idiot
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:35pmStep 1)
Each new generation born is in effect an invasion of civilization by little barbarians, who must be civilized before it is too late. – Thomas Sowell
Step 2)
A democratic government is the only one in which those who vote for a tax can escape the obligation to pay it. -Alexis de Tocqueville
“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.” ― Alexis de Tocqueville
Step 3)
“The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money” – Margaret Thatcher
Step 4)
Riot, Revolt, Massacre
Step 5) Rinse, Repeat
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What socialists/communists (pick your flavor pr shade) want to do is impossible psychologically & accounting-wise.
Sirfoldallot
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:43pmSounds 2 me like they have a border problem over there 2.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:56pmSirfoldallot,
Report Post »Without the border problem that the elites refuse to address, the would be no substantial Golden Dawn party in Greece.
lukerw
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:02pmHumans tend to look alike in a General Way… but the Brain in each is Unique, and varied by IQ, Experience & Knowledge, ability to Reason, and Health.
This difference… Separates people into Logical Groups! You cannot Fix It. So, from time to time… we have Wars!
Report Post »VaWolf
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:15pmI Agree! However be careful of what you post online or the jackboots will be at you door for using words like revolt or revolution.
This is what happened right down the street here in Virginia and you dont even hear about it on the news.
A Marine Vet kidnapped from his home and placed in a mental institution for saying just the same on facebook. (that was his mistake too…. remember folks “Sacry Dude” Soros is taking over fb too.
!!!GOD!!! Bless America
Report Post »Shalom
VaWolf
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:25pmhttp://www.infowars.com/this-former-marine-was-picked-up-by-the-fbi-over-facebook-posts-about-911/
BTW here is the clip of him being arrested out of his home
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:53pmlukerw
I read the book the Bell Curve. It is a great book.
IQ is going up for all groups. The IQ 100 goal post has been reset a few times since the 1920s. After a while you get diminishing returns so I expect any so called minorities to catch up before we top out on IQ.
Asians supposedly have 5 point advantage on IQ than say whites. Over the long haul that is not is much. Social connection, hard work & clean living make 5 points not that much of an advantage.
I like Professor Wolpoff’s work. If there is a beneficial gene that is advantageous it will get distributed to all populations like the “Big Head” gene.
I think at this point is it more about memes than genes.
It is about memes. With Islam we waste 50% of humanities IQ potential/capacity off the top.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 9:01pmVaWolf
http://www.infowars.com/this-former-marine-was-picked-up-by-the-fbi-over-facebook-posts-about-911/
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Zero Hedge picked up on this. the government can’t shut down that site.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-former-marine-arrested-patriotic-posts-facebook
There had better have him doped up & admitting that he is crazy or they are in heap big trouble.
They can hold him for less than 2 weeks without a court order.
I hope he doesn’t drink anything & if he comes out sounding sane, then let the heads roll (figuratively speaking). People need to lose the effin jobs.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 11:15pm@WALKABOUT
Report Post »You are a Trip and a Half :) Thanks…
kickagrandma
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:34pmNo, Sir. We ARE NOW RED, WHITE AND BLUE!
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:25pmEach new generation born is in effect an invasion of civilization by little barbarians, who must be civilized before it is too late. – Thomas Sowell
The corollary is that you have to continually have to educate voters or they must educate themselves.
Voters who are not savers etc are going to believe the Democrat lies of a free lunch.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:32pmExactly — PERFECT!
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:07pmis this dumb down economics ?
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:25pm@SIR…
Be it America, China, Russia, or Ancient Egypt… anywhere; any time… children are born into a Society… and they accept whatever as Their Reality, to be perpetuated.
So, to change the OutCome… you must change their Perception of Reality.
Report Post »CulperGang
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:21pmthe #1 political prisoner in the US right now and the Blaze is not talking about it? why?
could it be that he was a “Democrat” and the criminal Dubya gang put him in jail for political expediency? FREE Don Siegalman now!!! LOCK up Karl Rove one of the engineers of 9** 11
BLAZE STOP with the tripe ….GOV., Sieglaman stroy is important to all of our FREEDOMS.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:45pm“Don Siegalman”
You might get more traction if you could spell his name correctly.
Report Post »pissantno.10
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:02pmyet another good commie
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:09pmDo eat Fruit Loops in the morning ?
Report Post »Mike Benton
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:19pmIt is sad to see the great South being infected with a scourge we Yankees wish could be stamped out up here.
Report Post »VaWolf
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:22pmIn the infamous tone of Col Rhet……“Frankly my dear”……. we tried to warn ya’ll quiet a few years ago. We knew states rights, human rights and freedoms rights were hanging in the balance.
Report Post »UnreconstructedLibertarian
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:17amIf you think socialistic progressivism is a “scourge” – you are actually not a Yankee.
And yes, we’ve tried to warn all northerners for generations that the most basic constitutional principles must remain intact first and foremost. You fell for the “race bait”. This article still pepetuates the idea that southern politics only has two facets – religion and race. Is this still to be believed?
As long as everybody can be convinced of that – the Constitution will continue to burn.
Report Post »Mike Benton
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:15pmMost of Obama’s “green jobs” investments have gone bankrupt, and GM is on the way to its second failure (see Forbes magazine on the poor Chevy Malibu). But eleven of Romney/Bain’s investments are still going strong. Who do your trust to create jobs: a narcissistic political or a proven business man?
Report Post »CulperGang
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:24pmNONE of them. FREE Gov. Don Sieglman of Alabama.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:11pmFail
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:13pmCulper you got some ‘explaining’ to do
The 2006 conviction
On October 26, 2005, Siegelman was indicted on new charges of bribery and mail fraud in connection with Richard M. Scrushy, founder and former CEO of HealthSouth. Two former Siegelman aides were charged in the indictment as well. Siegelman was accused of trading government favors for campaign donations when he was governor from 1999 to 2003 and lieutenant governor from 1995 to 1999. Scrushy was accused of arranging $500,000 in donations to Siegelman’s campaign for a state lottery fund for universal education in exchange for a seat on a state hospital regulatory board, a non-paying position. Scrushy, who had served on the state hospital regulatory board over the past three Republican administrations, had recently been investigated for his part in the HealthSouth Corporation fraud scandal which cost shareholders billions -wiki
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Report Post »I’ll vote for Romney. I believe the the whole Mormon thing is a hoax. But I am voting for Romney not his religion. Besides I have never had a Mormon do me wrong & I have known more than a few.
rt elms
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 7:35amCulper – Not to worry! The O will pardon him on his way out the door.
Report Post »Southernguy
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:06pmAll I can tell y’all is this: the “free loaders”, down here in Mississippi still side with Odumbo. While the hard working, Bible thumpin’, lighter side, still side with the Conservative bunch ;)
Report Post »Locked
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:18pm“lighter side”
You know, you really could have just come out and said “the blacks don’t work.” You basically did so anyway. Why the obfuscation?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:41pmBlacks will work. Too many of them have been co-opted by the Democrats for too long.
As the Hispanics take more power in the Democrat party, the blacks will be disenfranchised at some point. Then they are going to do some soul searching, look around & change party to Libertarian, Conservative, Republican or something else.
At some point you run out of other people’s money. You also run out of leadership positions. Hispanics & blacks will compete in the Democrat Caucus. If they compete on a spoils system, one of them is going to get hurt. The Democrat party will crack.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:05pmWelfare/Entitlement supporter = Socialist = Blue!
Freedom/Constitution supporter = Capitalists = Red!
Women tend to be Blue… Men tend to be Red!
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:04pmWhy do we only limit ourselves to just two choices?
Republicans and Democrats have become the Coke and Pepsi of the political world. They both practically hold a monopoly and they frequently work with one another to prevent 3rd parties from gaining market share.
Competition ensures that we get products of higher quality while maintaining lower prices simultaneously, however it is truly amazing that we don’t apply this same philosophy to our elected representatives as well.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:36pmTwo choices simplifies the Selection Process. It is just a Line In The Sand… and if you do not like the solections: GO MOVE THE DAMN LINE!
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:54pmlukerw
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:36pm
Two choices simplifies the Selection Process.
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If what you say is true, then wouldn’t the selection process become even simpler if we pared our choices down even further (to just 1 choice)?
Report Post »pissantno.10
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:06pmwell look at alot of other countries that have maney parties how that working for them. not so well
Report Post »Locked
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:10pm@Pissant
“well look at alot of other countries that have maney parties how that working for them. not so well”
There are a lot of countries with only 2 parties that don’t do well too.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:29pmpissantno.10
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:06pm
well look at alot of other countries that have maney parties how that working for them. not so well
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You were saying??:
U.S. Debt Clock ($16 Trillion…..and counting)
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:31pm@KID…
Report Post »That is what Dictatorships do! But, my point is: If you do not like the Candidates given by your Party… then do something to Change it!
KidCharlemagne
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 5:25pmlukerw
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 3:31pm
But, my point is: If you do not like the Candidates given by your Party… then do something to Change it!
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I am!!:
http://www.writeinronpaul2012.org/
Report Post »iblvingd
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 5:30pmEveryone is complaining about the two party system. The problem is the lack of people voting! It is a very “small percentage” of people who actually go to the polls and vote in their states. Which allows for congressman to stay in office for 36 years! This is where all the corruption comes from. If everyone did their duty and voted with knowledge (vetting each candidate on our own) and only allowing a congressman to serve two terms, it would eliminate the majority of our problems. We know have power & money hungry people running the government.
If you are a registered voter and do vote you deserve the right to post, if you are not a registered voter then your opinion doesn’t mean squat!
Everyone do your civic duty and make sure that your friends and family are registered to vote and that encourage them to do so!
Quit whining about stupid things and bring yourself to the point of realization, that this is our last chance to save America.
Find out through research, who is qualified with the knowledge and experience and ability to surround themselves with honorable people that want to save this country. Honorable people would have to be past pride, hate, bigotry, and personal agendas. The only agenda these people should have, is saving our country!
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 5:32pm@Kid
I have heard people compare it to the Red Sox – Yankees (similar)
I also have heard it compared to WWE (fake, both are in on it together)
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 6:38pmyeah we should have a multi party system to represent everyone, cause two party is getting nothing done.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:04pmLatinos are as plentiful in Ga, as they are in Texas….the illegal ones I mean.
Report Post »The Dems hope to cash in on the new voting block: “The Illegal Alien Block”
Where else will they get tens of thousands of new voters every year.
The jig is up America, we lose.
RickN
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:04pmNorthern liberals have been moving south for JOBS! Conservative policies allowed the south to attract businesses and grow. Now, those liberals are injecting their “cancerous” idiology into those states, forgetting WHY they were attracted to the south in the first place! But, you can’t expect a liberal to use his brain anyway.
Report Post »BrerRabbit
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:22pmAmen !!!
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:30pmAmen, Yankees go home.
Report Post »EmpressJessica
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 4:44pmso true, RickN
Report Post »13Lena
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 6:21pmOne day the south will rise again and the liberals will be dog food.
Report Post »UnreconstructedLibertarian
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 12:49amMost people don‘t understand that party label doesn’t hold as much water in the south, as it does in the north. The ONE deciding factor down here, has always been Conservatism. Fiscal Conservatism above all.
Lumped in with Johnson’s “Civil Rights” – was his “Great Society” of welfare and medicaide/medicare – the war of poverty. The DixieCrat was born of the realization that the government had gone completely socialist under the Democrats. Enter Goldwater – listen to Goldwater, you’ll understand what spoke to “real” southerners.
“Lincoln’s Republicans” were anything but Conservative in the 19th Century. Its no mistake that the the modern progressive ideal was first enunciated by Teddy Roosevelt. Find me a conservative policy by Lincoln? You might want to go read his state of the union addresses and compare those to Obama’s. Any southerner who actually knows history, knows that Lincoln has more actual policy in common with modern Democrats than modern Republicans.
Yes, we have been re-invaded in the last 20 years. It hasn’t been for the good. They started maligning our flag 25 years ago, our culture 20 years ago, and now they are destroying all of our virtuous history. The yankees have discovered we were right all along, but will never admit it. So, they‘ll destroy what’s left of us to attempt taking the credit for themselves. Typical.
The real south has been RIGHT all along!
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 1:42amThe limousine liberals have also been invading other states in the interior west and trying to destroy those ares.
Liberals have the reverse midas touch effect. Everything they touch turns to ruins.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:00pm“Now it’s beginning to emerge, at least parts of it, as solidly purple.” SEIU purple you mean. You know what they say about Yankees in the south? Yankees come to visit and damn Yankees come to live.
Progressives from the north have infected the south hence these voting results for democrat union pigs.
Report Post »The infection rate needs to be curtailed,it can be done through education but that‘ll take decades and time is a luxury we don’t have.
lukerw
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:38pmI agree!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 4:13pmGeorgia will burn before it goes to Obama. I think the rest of the deep South is safe Romney territory, including the Carolinas. Virginia and FL are toss ups and KY is a border state.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 5:35pmprogressivism will eventually run out of wealth to distribute and the country will collapse on itself. Since the Republicans are not up to the task – it appears to be the only way out
Report Post »iblvingd
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 5:52pm@soybomb How about forgetting the ridiculous party problem!
Everyone is complaining about the two party system. The problem is the lack of people voting! It is a very “small percentage” of people who actually go to the polls and vote in their states. Which allows for congressman to stay in office for 36 years! This is where all the corruption comes from. If everyone did their duty and voted with knowledge (vetting each candidate on our own) and only allowing a congressman to serve two terms, it would eliminate the majority of our problems. We know have power & money hungry people running the government.
If you are a registered voter and do vote you deserve the right to post, if you are not a registered voter then your opinion doesn’t mean squat!
Everyone do your civic duty and make sure that your friends and family are registered to vote and that encourage them to do so!
Quit whining about stupid things and bring yourself to the point of realization, that this is our last chance to save America.
Find out through research, who is qualified with the knowledge and experience and ability to surround themselves with honorable people that want to save this country. Honorable people would have to be past pride, hate, bigotry, and personal agendas. The only agenda these people should have, is saving our country!
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 6:21pm@iblvingd
I dont think you understood my post. The problem is progressivism (which includes corruption).
So you are advocating to vote democrat in order to get an entrenched republican RINO out of office?
Report Post »majasdad
Posted on August 20, 2012 at 3:04pmHow cute. In the protective veil of anonymity you obviously cream in your pants at the sound of your decisive, manly, warlord-like tone. My hero…
And I love how the morons really come out of the woodwork in their eagerness to second your big, brave motion.
Hilarious… really.
Report Post »majasdad
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:59am@PROGRESSIVESLAYER
“The infection rate needs to be curtailed,it can be done through education…”
You’re a little mixed up there, Progressiveslayer. Your only hope is that people keep themselves uneducated, ignorant and closed-minded. True education is your worst nightmare. You people are scr€wed.
Report Post »John 3:16
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 2:00pmAmerica is not a color it is a Constitution. You will see that everyone knows the old Democratic party is an empty shell with a Hermit crab residing there and and a Communist crab to boot.Time to boil some CRAB…
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