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AP: World Stumbles Toward Next Big Climate Summit

BANGKOK (AP) — Nineteen years after the world started to take climate change seriously, delegates from around the globe spent five days talking about what they will talk about at a year-end conference in South Africa. They agreed to talk about their opposing viewpoints.

Delegates from 173 nations did agree that delays in averting global warming merely fast-forward the risk of plunging the world into “catastrophe.” The delegate from Bolivia noted that the international effort, which began with a 1992 U.N. convention, has so far amounted to “throwing water on a forest fire.”

But the U.N. meeting in Bangkok, which concluded late Friday after delegates cobbled together a broad agenda for the December summit, failed to narrow the deep divisions between the developing world and the camp of industrialized nations led by the United States. These may come to plague the summit in Durban.

Generally, developing nations, pointing to the industrialized world as the main culprit behind global warning, want an international treaty that would legally bind countries to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions. Washington and others reject it, focusing instead on building on the modest decisions made at last December’s summit in Cancun, Mexico.

The Durban agenda calls for discussion on both viewpoints.

“I believe that we now have a solid basis to move forward collectively and that governments can deliver further good results this year, provided every effort is made to compromise,” the U.N.’s top climate change official Christiana Figueres said. She expressed regret that the road to Durban is proving a slow one.

Although the Bangkok conference was not geared to tackle the core issues, some movement was at least expected in implementing decisions reached at Cancun. These included the formation of a multibillion-dollar Green Climate Fund to aid developing nations obtain clean-energy technology, setting up a global structure for these nations to obtain patented technology for clean energy and climate adaptation and rounding out a plan to compensate poorer nations for protecting their climate-friendly forests.

Some deadlines for accomplishing these have already passed and it appears little of substance was accomplished in Bangkok, with that work being passed on to the next meeting set for June in Bonn, Germany.

Although also not a pledging session, there was no indication that nations were prepared, in U.N. parlance, to “raise their ambitions,” or reduce emissions of greenhouse gases above earlier pledges.

The current total pledges are deemed by the United Nations to fall way short of cuts required to keep temperatures rising more than 2 degrees Celsius (3.8 F) above preindustrial levels — an agreement reached in Cancun by 193 countries.

“We have regrettably spent the entire week negotiating the agenda,” said Dessima Williams from the Caribbean island of Grenada. “This is unacceptable, and especially so for small islands who are running out of time if we are to avoid damage from rising sea levels and other climate change impacts. We cannot go on negotiating forever.”

But that’s what seems in the cards.

Developing countries are keen to preserve the landmark 1997 Kyoto Protocol, the only international existing agreement on reducing emissions. It is expiring at the end of 2012 and some countries, including Russia and Japan, have signaled that they would not make further pledges under an extended protocol.

The European Union is undecided and the United States, which rejected Kyoto, favors each country setting its own targets for emissions but has not ruled out an international pact if all major economies, including China, now the world’s no. 1 emitter, are parties.

“We are not prepared to go forward with the binding obligation for ourselves which would not apply to the other major economies,” chief U.S. delegate Jonathan Pershing told a news conference.

Environmental activists at the conference mostly backed the developing world position, and, noting the unfolding nuclear plant disaster in Japan, urged a global move away from both fossil fuels and nuclear power toward clean, renewable energy sources.

“For five years, rich countries have been ducking and weaving over their commitment to legally binding targets. The Bangkok meeting has finally given us clarity on countries’ real intentions — most of them have been paying lip service to being serious about tackling climate change,” said Asad Reham of Friends of the Earth.

Pablo Solon, the Bolivian delegate, said that even reaching the 2-degree goal would prove “unsafe for millions of lives and livelihoods across the world.”

Citing figures from the U.N. and Stockholm Environment Institute, he said that to meet even that target, the world would need to cut emissions by 14 gigatons each year by 2020. At best, he said, countries currently have pledged to reduce emissions by 8.7 gigatons, at worst 6.6 gigatons with more of the pledges coming from the developing rather than industrialized world.

Under the 1992 U.N. treaty, the world’s nations promised to do their best to rein in carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases emitted by industry, transportation and agriculture.

Since then, scientists have warned that without dramatic reductions in emissions, the world will risk inundation of islands and coastal areas as polar ice caps melt. Other foreseen dangers include the melting of river-feeding glaciers, the extinction of plant and animals species and extreme, unpredictable weather conditions.

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  • miles from nowhere
    Posted on April 10, 2011 at 2:04am

    Global Warming is the biggest BS scam the world has ever seen, you can shut down everything producing carbon in the US and you will change absolutely nothing with the temperature. Global Warming was about money,power, and control over people. The only other big scam that comes close to the liberal wacko scam is Obama as President.

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    • foobear
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 5:35am

      I think the goal IS to change absolutely nothing with the global temperature. :p

      While most hippies are absolutely off their rockers when it comes to global warming, the science behind it isn’t very hard to understand. The difficulty is in predicting a highly non-linear system.

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    • sonseeker
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 10:10am

      If atmospheric CO2 is increasing, plants grow bigger, better, faster, reducing atmospheric CO2…a nice balance just the way God made it.

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    • foobear
      Posted on April 11, 2011 at 3:27am

      Great theory, Son. Why don’t you test your hypothesis?

      Here’s the atmospheric concentration of CO2:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mauna_Loa_Carbon_Dioxide-en.svg

      Test to see 1) if the annual CO2 cycles is getting larger as the result of higher CO2 concentrations, and 2) if the increased plant growth is enough to keep CO2 levels constant.

      I’ll await your report. If you don’t respond, then I‘ll just assume you’re admitting you’re wrong.

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  • CanDan
    Posted on April 10, 2011 at 1:48am

    AP citing figures from the U.N. and Stockholm Environment Institute

    I guess the UN’s IPCC is no longer a good source since climategate

    Sorry all the data is still corrupt

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  • miles from nowhere
    Posted on April 10, 2011 at 1:46am

    RAYBLUE that is a good comment, CANDAN good comment also.

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  • neiman1
    Posted on April 10, 2011 at 1:43am

    Didn’t the information today announce this March was the coldest March worldwide in 15 years?

    http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/climatechange/story/48140/coolest-march-since-1994.asp

    How can the Earth take a breather and cool off if the CO2 is still climbing and that is the cause of global warming????

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  • Cold War Vet
    Posted on April 10, 2011 at 1:42am

    Here’s a suggestion:

    Since they are now going to be forcing us to use those new CFL lightbulbs–which contain MERCURY– we launch a new “Carbon Credits Program”

    Every time we buy a CFL bulb, we get a voucher from the EPA to cover the cost. When the bulbs wear out, we ship them–at goverment expense–to Al Gore’s mansions, and put the mercury in his drinking water supply.

    Or, they could just leave us the Hell alone, and quit forcing us to buy overpriced bulbs made by cronie union companies that supported Obama’s campaign. (General Electric, anyone?) and cut the operatiing budget of the EPA in half. And quit allowing these unholy alliances between government and lobbyists.

    TEA anyone?

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  • CanDan
    Posted on April 10, 2011 at 1:32am

    We do need to get free from the Middle East Terrorist oil

    Coal seems to be the answer for America

    To go solar represents a 1700%+ increase in your cost

    Look at Communist Ontario Canada, signed a deal with Samsung (Korea) for 87 cents a KWH for juice from the recent 5 cents a KWH we were paying

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  • CaptainSpaulding
    Posted on April 10, 2011 at 1:02am

    …so they’re going to take their private jets to luxury resorts, eat steak and lobster and discuss how rotten and wasteful everyone else is….

    Just another day in Obamaland.

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  • CanDan
    Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:59am

    I also read that the one volcano erupting last summer, that shut down Europe airspace, put out more CO2 for the one event then man has ever produced.

    You would think we would be burning in hell according to the global warming religion

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  • CanDan
    Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:52am

    Also I seen by the two rallies on the capital, which camp cared more for the environment by the condition they left the place when done.

    Only one rally had Honour

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  • Thevoice
    Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:43am

    BANGKOK (AP) — Nineteen years after the world started to take climate change seriously …Please AP don’t automatically include all of us…

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  • Jaycen
    Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:40am

    What does John Holdren say? As the Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, is the world getting colder (as he said in 1979), or is it getting hotter (as he says today)?

    Does he think we’re all “deniers”? That‘s what he’s been calling us. You see, denying the Holocaust ocurred (a historical event for which huge amounts of evidence exists) is the equivalent of denying Global Warming exists (a possible future event that no one can prove for which huge amounts of conflicting evidence exists).

    What do you say, John?

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  • CanDan
    Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:39am

    Europe had an unusual third strait paralyzing winter

    Blizzard in Dallas for Super Bowl

    Every southern state felt some climate change this winter

    If Al Gore was an honourable man he would give back the Nobel prize he won for his Global Warming Movie

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 1:07am

      And ALL the MONEY he has SCAMMED!

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  • CanDan
    Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:28am

    You couldn’t distinguish Detroit from Dallas on Super bowl day ( global warming my ass)

    The biggest threat to Humans is Islam

    Time for an Islam summit

    Time to de-fund the Islamic run UN

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  • Rayblue
    Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:26am

    And another point I’d like to make is;
    During the Nazi reign, SS recruits were made to swear to the doctrine of universal ice.
    This was the doctrine of “WEL”. It stated that the world was surrounded by an ice shell.
    This idea was pushed forward by the discovery that radio waves were echoed when directed into space. The ionization layer was unknown then so the scientists thought the waves were bouncing back from a solid ice shell. Faulty science played a part in the Nazi culture just as faulty science plays a part in the Algore culture. The Algore cultists have a pledge very similar to the Nazi pledge.
    You can find this material by researching Louis Pauwels and Jauque Bergiers books.
    Both reputable writers after WWII.

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  • Bluenose177
    Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:24am

    what a crock of crap. notice it’s the poor, socialist countries wanting us rich ones to pay our fair share…maybe if they got rid of their despot leaders and joined us in the real world, we wouldn’t have to be the financial crutch to these countries

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  • drattastic
    Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:17am

    Keep selling the scam but less and less people are buying it.

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  • miles from nowhere
    Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:05am

    There is no damn money for these frigging idiots, Obama drained the bank with dems to help him. No amount of leftist BS will be able to bleed the turnip., Obama can keep printing money, but there is nothing to back it up. It does not matter what data some lame scientist wants to throw out there is no MONEY to give you idiots, WTF is it going to take for you to understand this!

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    • i want the truth
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:24am

      call your representatives and let them know how you feel. we are broke as a country. but, yet the liberals feel we have all the money to spend on Killing Babies(PP). did you listen to last nights debates on the budget. and how extreme the left thought that it will be killing women’s rights!! if the bugdet defunded PP. this country is not in the right place. and barry still has 50%approval. what a joke! i personally know folks out there that blame capitalism for their not having the right job. i know that sounds absolutely crazy. we have to put pressure on our state representatives!! and get involved to get the ones out that don’t listen to We the Tax Payers!

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  • Rayblue
    Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:04am

    A family member of mine briefly trained EPA inspectors for their useful idiot positions.
    One of the agendas was to fine corporations for gas emissions exceeding the limits set by themselves. A point that was ignored at the time were the emissions caused by every chimichonga mobile that every illegal was driving that was not registered by the state. Unregistered vehicles were not among the final total. So the emissions caused by companies was upped by the emissions spewed out by every vehicle that illegals were driving. Also, the inspection stickers could be purchased at most Mexican flea markets for a price. The EPA has always juggled the numbers in this way to push their fake agenda.

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  • MeteoricLimbo
    Posted on April 9, 2011 at 11:56pm

    Was the WOODSY OWL commercial on TV the first concept sale that actually got America to offer up a donation for our own intrinsic guilt and to build an organization that cared and nurtured that emotion and much more? If you answered yes, odds are pretty good that you have been sold on the “Green” Religion. I am guessing 48 yr olds and younger got in on the “green washed” Kewl-aid.
    Gaze out at the massive recycling industry that has sprung up around that guilt, not to mention the Non-profit orgs that buy us a little “faith” and “guilt” relief. Compare that entire industry and its consumption of fossil fuel and CO2 output (CARBON FOOTPRINT) to a large well managed landfill in Nevada and Mr. Buffet’s super efficient trains to deliver it. Harry won’t mind. He professes to be part of the green movement and Nevada needs the jobs and has plenty of BLM land.
    Why not bank the minerals till those pesky McDonalds cups that last forever are gone? Don’t be silly; just smelt them down whenever we need to with extremely efficient extraction equipment. You do the math; don’t count out the methane production and the bank of minerals (even gold and platinum) in the equation. Oh, and the landfill is “reuse able” Now that’s banking on America and a stimulus you can believe in and SEE. If the Green movement is sincere they can almost start counting the penguins and polar bears it will save. If not, I know of a few scientists that that can provide them with whatever data they need.
    I am not offended by their Green religion at all. I just don’t like to be forced to tithe. Could the Green movement possibly find another faith or maybe just legitimize theirs?

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  • geonj
    Posted on April 9, 2011 at 11:51pm

    why do we give creedance to these global warming loons. let’s try ignoring them and we will probably see them go away.

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    • Awakened One
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:02am

      If that were only so. These people are a cancer that threatens freedom everywhere. Global warming is just a political tool to get hold of your money to advance their socialist agenda.

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    • watchtheotherhand
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 2:40pm

      @ GEO………….While I understand your statement we cannot put our heads in the sand and ignore these people. Too many others are listening and we need to expose their deceptions and false “science” for what it is with the truth. All evil needs to succeed is for good men to do nothing. Fight for your freedom and the generations to come.

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  • matinva
    Posted on April 9, 2011 at 11:50pm

    I don’t even need to read this article. The operative word here is ‘stumble’. There is no cohesive plan to deal with climate change because there is no villain. The poorest countries (read; America haters) all want to blame America so they can follow in the footsteps of our own Congress and fleece the taxpayers for trillions of imaginary dollars to ‘fix’ a problem which has no earthly solution.

    Memo to anyone with a brain: THERE IS NOT NOW, NOR HAS THERE EVER BEEN, ANY CONCLUSIVE PROOF THAT MAN HAS ANYTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH ANY CHANGES IN THE CLIMATE OF PLANET EARTH. Pardon me for shouting, but we have an incredible number of complete ignoramuses out there who seem to think that SUV’s, cows and wood stoves are endangering the planet. So far, there is not even evidence to support that crap, let alone proof positive. If there was, the imbeciles who have bought into this nonsense would have shoved it down our throats long ago.

    Oh, and Al Gore invented the internet. Didn’t you know that?

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:24am

      As with all things …follow the money … you will find a LOT of it in ALGORE’S new MANSION on the COAST of California …

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    • Cold War Vet
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:48am

      Let’s not forget that “internet inventor” Al Gore’s mansion near Nashville, TN has a carbon footprint a thousand times larger than yours. Then you have his fleet of gas-guzzling SUVs and his private jet.

      Oh yeah, I almost forgot. He recently purchased a huge multi-million dollar mansion overlooking the ocean in California, so I guess he’s not really too worried about rising sea levels. But he wants us to give up cars and electricity to “save the planet.”

      Al Gore is a super hypocrite!

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:55am

      @ COLD WAR VET …

      He also has/had a HOUSEBOAT ..

      http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gore-hits-the-waves-with-a-massive-new-houseboat/

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    • marine249
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 1:09am

      is agore still alive?

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  • Phr34k
    Posted on April 9, 2011 at 11:46pm

    The delegate from Bolivia noted that the international effort, which began with a 1992 U.N. convention, has so far amounted to “throwing water on a forest fire.”

    I thought water WAS used in putting out forest fires….

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  • Phr34k
    Posted on April 9, 2011 at 11:45pm

    The delegate from Bolivia noted that the international effort, which began with a 1992 U.N. convention, has so far amounted to “throwing water on a forest fire.”

    I thought water was used in putting out forest fires……

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    • tobywil2
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 8:52am

      THE CANCUN CLIMATE CHANGE SUMMIT
      Cancun Climate Change Summit speaker Ian Roberts stated that there is a direct correlation between carbon emissions and expanding waistlines. Of course, he considers this more justification to reduce the consumption of fossil fuel. For once, the man is right, at least about the fact that the use of fossil fuel has a direct correlation to prosperity and productivity.

      Seldom do the wannabe tyrants admit that their objective is to reduce prosperity and starve the population into submission. The man should be applauded for his honesty if not the validity of his argument.

      At last the wannabe tyrants admit that control of the individual using hunger and poverty is the objective of the global warming initiatives.

      http://commonsense21c.com/

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  • texasfarmer
    Posted on April 9, 2011 at 11:42pm

    It’s just a way to get a free trip and paid vacation.

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:28am

      Agreed. When lawyers hang out with lawyers the bar is open and nothing gets done.

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    • SlimnRanger
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 7:05am

      I don‘t believe in climate change but it’s so dry here in Oklahoma,i would like to ask the praying folks in here to help us pray for rain,as well as Texas needs rain also,i am already watering the garden to keep it going

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    • felina g
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 10:40am

      Doing a little homework on this water idea. Keep asking myself “Why Libya?” Watched a show a while back on who is buying up water and aquifer all over the planet. Goes pretty far down the rabbit hole.

      Libya is about the Nubian sandstone Aquifer system.

      Alexander the great & many others learned the hard way if you want to conquer control water.

      to paraphrase Rothschild…”give me control over the water & I care not who makes the law”.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nubian_Sandstone_Aquifer_System

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  • joe conservative
    Posted on April 9, 2011 at 11:36pm

    That can only mean another blizzard is on the way. Everytime they have one of these things we see a major weather event. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68uzsXdMLS4

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:03am

      I call BULL on man-made climate change .. nothing but a scam to redistribute wealth!

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:43am

      Here is all we need to know about this agenda ;
      1. 3rd world countries hate USA and our lifestyle
      2. 3rd world elites covet our lifestyle but hate our work-ethic
      3. 3rd world countries seduce our politicians with their tales of misery
      4. 3rd world loser economies depend on our generosity but don’t mind blackmailing us too
      5. 3rd world corruptocrats funnel a lot and I mean a lot of money back into the lobbyists + politicians in USA, kickbacks are a given in these kinds of deals, mostly in cold hard cash
      6. Guess who profits ? It ain’t the working people and taxpayers of USA. It ain’t the poor folks of the 3rd world slums .
      Now , who is ready for some climate change hysteria ????
      They are desperate, their grants and foreign jaunts are in danger. I’m sure Hussain will blink

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    • Cemoto78
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 12:50am

      Just another planned way for us “worker bees” to be fleeced by the elitists. I don’t buy this crap for one second.

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    • brickmoon
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 1:23am

      The Brick Moon Meteorological Laboratory will be sending lead researcher Dr. Celery Salt to the next conference. He may be a little late — still raising funds for his solar-powered rowboat, made from compressed, recycled hockey-stick charts. South Africa or bust!

      WHN Reports on the Climate Change Prognosticator
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE_avBRQqbk

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    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 1:32am

      Still proving to the world that they enjoy wasting time and our money. If these people would put their efforts into other areas, there would be many more people working right now. I guess you just can’t have a good revolution without Global Warming to scare the money out of people. If Marx had only thought of this back in his day…

      The Tea Party Revolution Continues…
      http://www.AmericasTeaPartyNews.com

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 1:43am

      @CatB:

      They have admitted to such being a man-made fabrication. There is absolutly no scientific proof of any consistency showing man has caused these changes, this is like last year in DC of them saying Global Warming Garbage was real and happening while the entire capital was deeper in snow than had been seen for years.

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    • theonefromabove
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 1:51am

      I will never believe the climate is changing.

      http://politicalbowl.com – Political Videos

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    • jzs
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 2:25am

      Global warming is a hoax, started, as the article says, over 19 years ago. It started with a few liberal scientists who hated the thought that oil companies made so much money. They began to fabricate evidence that the world was becoming warmer due to emissions of CO2 into the atmosphere, while they searched for ways to profit off of solar panels and windmills. Those emails discovered by FOX show the data is all fabricated.

      Now virtually every climate scientist in the world is claiming that that mankind is polluting the environment in a way that may have so called “devastating” consequences, while those same people are pumping money into “green” energy hoping to profit from the fear. And now, is it a coincidence that 97.53% of all green energy companies are funded by liberal climate scientists, including Al Gore? True fact.

      It’s a hoax, a scam pure and simple. Something to take money out of your pocket, no less now than it was 19 years ago. Check my facts if you want, but a) the Earth is actually getting colder according to every legitimate measure, b) there is no credible evidence that all the CO2 pumped into atmosphere actually retains heat. The dispute among scientists whether CO2 actually retains heat on Earth at all is a matter hotly disputed, with the preponderance of evidence pointing to the conclusion that it is not, and c) CO2 is actually a helpful gas, one that promotes plant growth, something you learned in school, but a simple fact that climates scientist believe you have forgotten because they think you’re stupid.

      In other words, people will believe anything.

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    • Robert-CA
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 3:35am

      I’m sick & tired of hearing these loons .
      Here in Los Angeles last year the City voted YES to go green @ DWP (department of water & power) when reporters asked the city council what is this new green project the answer was “We don’t know , DWP doesn‘t even know what the green project is but we had to vote YES cause it’s unethical to vote NO on a green project”
      I swear I’m not joking this was their answer .
      Are you F’in kidding me ? you voted for something that’s gonna cost us billions & yet you don’t know what it is ?

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    • foobear
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 5:32am

      If we switched to 100% nuclear power, we’d meet every CO2 target necessary to hit a max +2C change, without substantially raising energy prices or demanding lifestyle changes that even Algore can’t do.

      We could use the leftover coal (about half our generation right now is from coal) to power our cars, via coal gassification.

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    • tobywil2
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 8:50am

      THE GREAT “GLOBAL WARMING HOAX”

      The proposals to combat “GLOBAL WARMING” have more potential to destroy our freedom and prosperity than any issue since WORLD WAR II. The cost of energy is increased by all these proposals. Energy is contained in all the products used to sustain our lives.

      These proposals will be devastating to the poor, where the cost of survival consumes all their income.

      Do you realize that these proposals are to combat an issue that has not even been proven to exist?
      AND YOU LAUGH AT DON QUIXOTE?

      THESE PROPOSALS WILL ONLY ENHANCE THE POWER OF THE “PEERS.” “CAP AND TRADE WILL DESTROY YOUR WEALTH AND FREEDOM!!

      BRACE YOURSELF, THOMAS PAINE, REJOICE YOU “PEERS” THE TYRANNY OF
      KING GEORGE III IS BEING RESTORED BUT UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT!
      http://commonsense21c.com/CLIMATE.html

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    • watchtheotherhand
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 8:58am

      “These included the formation of a multibillion-dollar Green Climate Fund to aid developing nations obtain clean-energy technology, setting up a global structure for these nations to obtain patented technology for clean energy and climate adaptation and rounding out a plan to compensate poorer nations for protecting their climate-friendly forests.” —— WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION !!!!

      ““This is unacceptable, and especially so for small islands who are running out of time if we are to avoid damage from rising sea levels and other climate change impacts.” ——- WHAT A JOKE !!!

      “Since then, scientists have warned that without dramatic reductions in emissions, the world will risk inundation of islands and coastal areas as polar ice caps melt. Other foreseen dangers include the melting of river-feeding glaciers, the extinction of plant and animals species and extreme, unpredictable weather conditions.” — OTHER SCIENTISTS SAY, “NOT SO MUCH” !!!!!!

      This is the biggest bunch of bull crap!!! It is a meal ticket for wealth redistribution and internationalism meant to usher in a global governing body under the guise of a false collective salvation. Who wouldn’t want to give up their money and freedom to “save” the planet? They still talk and plan as if man-made GW is a fact. For so many people that want to rely on scientific “fact” and reason they sure don’t seem opposed to throwing that out the window when it comes to this crap !!! Largest green house gas polluter—–The ocean is responsible for well over 90% of “green house” gases. Guess we better outlaw the ocean. This just ticks me off how these “scientists” are allowed to even push for these agendas. I can assure you it is not about caring for you, me or our grandchildren. It’s about what it has ALWAYS been about——-money & power plain and simple !!!!!

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    • watchtheotherhand
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 9:06am

      We shouldn’t meet any “emission standards” from these conferences because they are a joke !!! Solar cycles and their increase heat the ocean increasing the rate of evaporation (you know since 3/4 of our surface is water) and this increase water vapor from evaporation. This raises the global temp resulting in slight temperature increases. IT has nothing to do with our CO2 emissions. Go nuclear, coal, whatever you can to make it as cheap as possible and available as possible and you will raise everyone’s standard of living. Start limiting energy production with “protective standards” and millions of people will suffer and plunge deeper into poverty!!!!

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    • watchtheotherhand
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 9:10am

      @ JZS…Way to go my AMIGO !!!! I agree with you 110% your facts are dead on the money and if someone disputed them they would simply be believing falsehoods. I am impressed my friend. You and I have been reading and investigating many of the same resources and information it seems. Great job my friend and this just raises your stock in my eyes because I now see you as not intellectually dishonest. Even if we disagree I respect your views friend.. Have a great day I am on the way to church…. :-)

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    • Uncle Sambo
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 9:40am

      President Bobo will be giving away the store.

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 10:24am

      What a waste of time and money when there are bigger fish to fry. Gotta get those bucks being redistributed at all costs, even lies and deception. How do these people look at themselves in the mirror (maybe they don’t) with a clear conscience day after day. We need to bring back the Ten Commandments and teach them in schools; like the fundamentals of reading at an early age, maybe there would be hope for a future generation.

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    • restorehope
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 10:41am

      Where are the reputable scientists who know these people are grandstanding about global warming? Why haven’t they stepped forward to debunk these politically and ideologically-driven people who want to benefit by scaring people?

      We need to expose what these fear-mongers are doing and not just ignore them. Too many sheep out there are swallowing their theories without questioning validity.

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    • GIDEON612
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 11:26am

      @joe conservative,

      You are right about the weather that follows these events and I have noted that for years. Satan is the prince of the power of the air. The Bible also tells us that he can rain down fire from the sky, so this tells us that Satan has power over the weather. He also has power over the weather loonies and laughs as he gets them together to make fools out of them.
      While on this subject the insurance companies needs to stop calling weather related incidents an act of God. God is not judging us, He did that on Calvary.

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    • jhaydeng
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 11:40am

      Why hasn’t anyone started a successful company dealing with solutions to “climate change”? If it is so important why are there no companies willing to take a risk? Shouldn’t it be a huge moneymaker as we speak? It‘s not a successful investment that’s why! I’d like to send Al Gore my heating bills from this past winter!

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    • Michael61
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 11:58am

      “Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts” – Richard Feynman

      Check my posts @ http://www.theblaze.com/stories/geoengineering-global-warming-crowd-contemplates-tricks-to-tweak-our-climate/

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    • GIDEON612
      Posted on April 10, 2011 at 7:10pm

      Why wasn’t there more coverage of the Gore/Olberman wedding?

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    • sbleve
      Posted on April 11, 2011 at 9:58am

      The Yamal connection. One tree ring. Hide the decline. Photosynthesis in the dark/arctic winters. Climate-Gate releases show that Yamal is more frequently sited than ‘hockey stick’.

      A new religion produced by inevitable human greed. Greed of power over another person – elite ruling class-Politician. One world government.

      Driving force: “political correctness the like of which no doubt protected Adolf Eichmann from adverse comments” during his trail he blustered the claim “I just followed orders”.

      The precursor – Western Spotted Owl ‘endangered’ in the 80′s, caused by man and his use of lumber. Fabrication via half truths. Politicians incorporated-sought out ‘believers’ in the science community. Private biologist in the area claimed that ‘no, there are several sick spotted owl communities and these need to be studied (private biologist do not have unlimited funding-they are hired to do a specific job) by the government’. The demise of the Western Spotted Owl (sub specie to the Spotted Owl) was then and today an apparently natural invasion of an aggressive-tough owl specie that cries out – I am coming to take your land , leave willingly or I will kill you. Eastern(east of the Rocky Mt.) Barred Owl is currently being hunted and killed by government hired shooters.

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