Arab-American Comic Pens CNN OpEd, Asks What U.S. Would Look Like Under Rick Santorum‘s ’Judeo-Christian Sharia Law’
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In a recent OpEd piece for CNN, comedian and executive producer of the annual New York Arab-American Comedy Festival, Dean Obeidallah, asks what type of nation the U.S. would be “under Rick Santorum’s Sharia law?”
“Plainly put, Rick Santorum wants to convert our current legal system into one that requires our laws to be in agreement with religious law, not unlike what the Taliban want to do in Afghanistan,” Obeidallah asserts.
“Santorum is not hiding this. The only reason you may not be aware of it is because up until his recent surge in the polls, the media were ignoring him. However, “Santorum Two” was out there telling anyone who would listen.”
Below, Obeidallah offers what he believes a Santorum-lead America would look like:
1. Rape victims would be forced to give birth to the rapist’s child. Santorum has stated that his religious beliefs dictate that life begins at conception, and as a result, rape victims would be sentenced to carrying the child of the rapist for nine months.
2. Gay marriages would be annulled. Santorum recently declaredthat not only does he oppose gay marriages, but he supports a federal constitutional amendment that would ban them, invalidating all previous gay marriages that have legally been sanctioned by states and thus callously destroying marriages and thrusting families into chaos.
3. Santorum would ban all federal funding for birth control and would not oppose any state that wanted to pass laws making birth control illegal.
4. No porn! I’m not kidding. Santorum signed “The Marriage Vow”pledge (PDF) authored by the Family Leader organization, under which he swears to oppose pornography. I think many would agree that alone should disqualify him from being president.
Obeidallah says he sees “two Rick Santorums.”
“The first one I might not agree with, but the second one truly scares me,” he begins.
“‘Santorum One’ pushes for less government regulation for corporations and shrinking the federal government. You may or may not agree with these positions, but they are both mainstream conservative fare. Then there‘s ’Santorum Two.’ This Santorum wants to impose conservative Christian law upon America. Am I being hyperbolic or overly dramatic with this statement? I wish I were, but I’m not.”
The Palestinian-Italian-American comic maintains that “Santorum Two” truly “poses an existential threat to the separation of church and state,” and he hopes voters will “reject any attempts to move America closer to a becoming the Afghanistan of the Western Hemisphere.”
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noland
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:18amSo, it sounds like you folks…. have it all figured out! Notttt!!!
Report Post »Ded-Bred
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:44amIgnorance or uneducated: How do you plead, Dean? There’s no contest—Christian “law” is as follows: Love God. Love Neighbors. That’s the combined meaning of the hundreds of Mosaic Laws.
So it‘s offensive to have the only One true GOD be compared with Satan’s Muslim laws. Islamic Laws (Sharia) is all about forcing people to be muslim, or be murdered. It’s about hating the One true GOD(because Allah is an evil, hating, and the fallen enemy of God is who Muslims REALLY worship.
And Muslims NEVER love neighbors but rather HATE anyone who refuses to accept the devil as GOD.
Well, Dean, gonna ask you once more: are you an ignorant imbecile or uneducated about the God loving Chriatians who love even those who hate us, & Muslims who curse the real God & hate anyone who isn’t like them ?
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Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:50amOh goodie!!!
Report Post »Is CNN also going to put a Christian anti-Muslim comic commentator out there for much needed education and commentary on all that the current administration is doing on behalf of the Islamists?
NO?!
How about Fox then? Do they get to have a Christian anti-Muslim comic commentator — in the name of educating people about what’s REALLY going on?– Oh no… HEAVENS no somebody’s life would be in danger……
SpankDaMonkey
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 8:15am.
Arab-American Comic Pens CNN OpEd, Asks What U.S. Would Look Like Under Rick Santorum‘s ’Judeo-Christian Sharia Law’
Well for starters you would not be here…………….
Report Post »Pearsontech
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 10:24amThere is no separation of church and state. It never states this in the constitution as much as Liberals and Progressives like to tout that it does. It is actually the reverse separation of state from church which is entirely different.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 10:57am“There is no separation of church and state. It never states this in the constitution. ”
First statement is a blatant lie. Second is true. However, the establishment clause has been ruled through the Supreme Court to hold a separation of church and state is the intent behind the Constitution. Someone who does not believe in the power of the judiciary in ruling such is against over 200 years of American judicial history, and would not do so without a clear political agenda.
Now, you can disagree with their ruling, but saying “there is no separation of church and state” is a lie. The terminology has been in use in the judiciary since 1878, in Reynolds v US. It’s nothing new, nor shocking.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:10pmSummation.
The result of failing to live up to Christian moral values, repentance at the foot of the cross, or the second judgement ( by GOD alone) and an extended term in the outer darkness.
The result of failing to live up to sharia law, dismemberment, torture, even death. Judged by man and not by GOD.
There is no relative comparison between these two, unless you are a GODless sin filled prognosticator, of low moral character such as @YOUR SENSELESS for example.
Report Post »In which case, the object wouldn’t be to converse, but to enrage, such a sad little minded life one must have to post in such an offensive and babel manner, but I digress.
jzs
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:55pmSantorum supports the right of a state to ban birth control. I doubt he’ll get much traction with that.
Report Post »ShawnB
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:06am@C. Schwehr Youre insane! Tell me what then shall we ever do with the gays, non-Christians, atheist (like me), Jews, and Islamist? Please tell me what your fascist crazy conservative mind thinks? You say your for the constitution but tell me what about all of us non-Christians? (If youre not a fascist I apologize for that) Please tell me what you would do with all of us?
Report Post »ShawnB
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:09amUnlike you Ill give you a chance to explain that youre not a fascist. remember what you said to Miller? He must be a progressive troll. Give me an answer and say what you would do to all of us non-christians. Either youre just an assh0le or retarded or a little bit of both!
Report Post »taksavillage
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 9:24amThe Constitution was based on Judeo-Christian values & morals. Sharia law STILL allows for slavery including sex slaves, etc. The US allowed a society that eliminated that within its boundaries. Obviously the two are incompatible. You are welcome in the US as long as you live according to the system here. In other countries including progressive Europe, you can’t even discuss issues openly or comment on the dangerous aspects of islam, for example, without being brought up on charges.
Unless we are suicidal as a country we should cherish and fight for our heritage.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 10:52amThis is where Ron Paul has it right. The government needs first and foremost to respect individual privacy. Santorum represents a growing group of hypocrites who bash the government as being too big and intrusive but want it to adopt and enforce their beliefs and values. In every situation you can phrase a moral, value or belief based position in a way that would have everyone reverse their position. Very notable how many self proclaimed devote Christians cannot follow the most universal of all gods rules…..the golden rule. That one is first and foremost and if you can’t follow that one then stop praying and stop going to church, as you are a fraud.
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 10:57amTAKSAVILLAGE . . .The Constitution allowed for slavery. Eight presidents were slave owners. Judeo Christian values in the hands of politicians were the same in the 18th century as they are today – bludgeons used by the privileged to inflict guilt on those whom they would exploit. Pull your head out of Jesus’ butt and take a look around at the real world, fool.
vincijoey49
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 11:04amshoot you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:19pm@your senseless
Report Post »Ha! That’s all you do, bludgeon people with your vitriol, ad homonym attacks and hyperbol! Therefore by your own paradigm you’ve established that you work for the Federal Government. WbTW explains the tactics you employ within your posts, you race bait, incite violence, and purposefully post to enrage, I can now easily see you do so with mal intent, nefariously so. For I think you attempting to instigate a response/reaction that your government boss’s can and will use against both the Internet freedoms as well as the citizens of America.
I’m reporting you to the BLAZE staff to have you profile removed, as well as your ISP general and specific to be tagged to prevent your return. Have a nice life, government provaciture,
your sensei
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 8:54pmBITTER DAZE . . . How’d that work out for ya? That whole “I’m the hall monitor” act. That make the difference you were looking for? Does it ever?
Report Post »XavierD
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:59pmValues are one thing and laws are another. Before the founding of the United States, only the royal families owned anything and they claimed that God had ordained them rulers over the people. You could not own land unless the king gave it to you because it was all his. While the founding fathers had different beliefs from each other, they all agreed that our Creator gave us rights, not a king or any government. We were suppose to be safe within our homes. Our rights end when they affect another, so you cannot rape your neighbor, his wife, his children or his livestock. Liberty comes with responsibility and consequences, when the government takes away our choices, even to keep us from making bad choices, they are taking away our liberty. Would Christ (or God for the Judeo part of the equation) not have the power to make everyone behave? Why would we submit to a government that makes us behave? What brand of Christianity will we follow? Do will allow polygamy between consenting adults? Do we ban all alcohol? Maybe we follow the Amish and ban all technology from beyond the 16th century?
I have seen some strange beliefs from Christians and while I might disagree, let them serve God as they choose as long as it does not hurt anyone but themselves or other consenting adults.
John 3:17 “For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.”
Report Post »jmiller_42
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:02amWell put
Report Post »Favored93
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:24amIf people can not see the difference between Jewish “law” , Christian “law” and shariah “LAW” then we are truly blind! The Jewish God says choose me….the Christian God says … choose me …. the Muslim god says …choose me or die!
Report Post »Christian values are the bed rock of America. Those values are… Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If it neither picks my pocket or breaks my leg…..I DON’T CARE!!!!
Abortion however is like all the others … the right of the woman to choose infringes on the child’s RIGHT to LIVE!!!!!!!!!
Marriage however is a religious institution NOT a legal one. You can will your money to whomever you wish! Get a living will and deem whomever you wish to make your medical decisions for you if you can’t.
DON’T CALL SEX WITH A MAN (if you are a man) MARRIAGE!!! IT IS A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION!
Gay people have the same rights I do end of story there.
Rick is right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jmiller_42
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:33amYes government is a religious institution, and we should leave it like that. Rick is wrong! Rick wants to make the government define what marriage is, he wants the government to take over what my church believes. Coincidentally, he believes the same thing I do. But as soon as we get a gay Episcopal as president, we will then be told that the government is forcing me to recognize gays as married. Why not leave it out of the dictators hands, and in God’s hands.
Santorum has said repeatedly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gwwmm-cQxU&feature=youtu.be that he thinks it’s the governments duty to dictate these things.
Report Post »XavierD
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:45am@JMiller: Thank you
@FAVORED93: When I said “laws”, I meant civil laws or the laws of man. I believe that men and women have to choose to follow the Christ so any law making them do so is wrong if their actions harm no one else.
You also admit that a gay man or woman can have all of the same rights as a married couple through our current civil society so what does it matter if they call their union a “marriage”? How does it lessen yours? Why make them jump through extra hoops? I believe that the clergy has a right to deny performing the ceremony, I think that the clergy of any church has the right to refuse to perform any marriage. If they don’t feel comfortable, most likely there is a duty to God in their belief not to perform it. Perhaps based on both mine and your reasoning, marriage should only be performed in churches and judges could only grant a “civil union.” To me, it is really just semantics. As Shakespeare said “What is in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.”
I do agree with you that Sharia law is scary and I think honor killings in the US should be prosecuted. However, for someone who is not in the right Christian faith, an Atheist or a Muslim, I fear that it might be the same for them if the “Big Government Christians” get their way.
Report Post »MatthewChapter24
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:50am@Miller: Yes, we agree on many things. I don’t want the govt usurping the role of the church. But what do we do about states where they want marriage for homosexuals…framed as “marriage equality”? It doesn’t end there. It never does or else it wouldn’t keep continuing. Before it was just about abortion being legal. Now everyone is paying for abortions through their tax dollars. Before it was just about gays wanting civil unions. Now they want the covenant title of marriage. So what is the answer in protecting *my* Christian beliefs? If I‘m a baker and I don’t want to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple, why should I be obliged to comply? Why should a Christian parent have to subject their child to books about the gay lifestyle in public school? Why should I be a partner in abortion through my tax dollars? Why does it seem that the default is to protect other’s beliefs while abandoning mine?
Report Post »MatthewChapter24
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:00amXavierD you said”I believe that the clergy has a right to deny performing the ceremony, I think that the clergy of any church has the right to refuse to perform any marriage.”
Do you realize that is already under fire? People are being taken to court b/c gays are feeling discriminated against if they choose to not serve them in a particular manner. They are framing it as similar to racism. This is not simply a matter of semantics at all. Gays want to be seen as completely equal to a man-woman marriage and they want to force others to recognize them as such. They are having it taught in schools as one of many lifestyle choices to make. Don‘t think it won’t come to your doorstep. It most certainly will and you will be forced to comply.
Report Post »XavierD
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:15am@Matthew: I must apologize, I misunderstood you. I think we agree more than we disagree. See, I believe that the government should not force anyone into a contract with someone that has no desire for it. I believe it is your God given right to be as racist, bigotry, homophobic or what ever else. The government is to be blind, IMHO. Man does not have to be. No government will make man perfect, and a man can only lift another man up to his level, never higher. So, unless we find a secret stash of perfect people, the government has no place in telling anyone how to live their lives.
I fear the Christian who acts as if he is better than anyone else, as much as the Atheist intellectual when it comes to me and my family.
Report Post »1casawizard
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:51amDITTo.
Report Post »LibertarianRight
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 8:52am@Favored “Gay people have the same rights I do end of story there. Rick is right!” Santorum also wants to reinstate DADT, thereby taking away those same rights. Also, marriage should be completely unregulated by the federal government, with states having the right to not recognize same-sex marriages from states that do – this is the stance that is most consistent with freedom, and the stance held by Dr. Paul.
Report Post »Favored93
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 10:43am@LibertarianRight and XavierD
Report Post »OK…I may not have been clear as to what my position is on this subject so let me take another stab at it.
Our founders told us that we should prefer Christian leadership IN GOVERNMENT.
This DOES NOT MEAN we should want our country ran as a theocracy. All I want from our government is that they follow the constitution and be as small as possible as our founders intended.
To answer your question XavierD …. no if gays call their “union” a marriage it does not lesson mine. That however is not the point. The point is that our traditions and institutions are under attack by the homosexual movement as are our CHILDREN! Marriage is a religious institution and should be treated as such. I do not agree with licensing Marriage. For the homosexual …IHO… if they want to get their friends and family together and make promises to each other who am I to say they are not allowed? It neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket. Do you guys remember (it was not that long ago) when people used to think that they were Christian by virtue of being an American? Our laws reflect our values in this country. It is a dangerous road when you start trying to legislate morality and should not happen but look sense the founding of this country Marriage was between Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve and should NOT be changed. We do not need “new” laws on this subject. We are all equal under the law.
Continued……………….
Favored93
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 11:09am@LibertarianRight and XavierD
Report Post »Re-Instituting DADT will not take away any rights. Under DADT if you are openly gay you can‘t serve if I am gay I can’t serve. We have equal rights there. We have a 100% VOLUNTEER military. If you don‘t like the rules don’t volunteer. The nature of the beast in the military is discrimination. If you are too fat,too tall or have flat feet you are not allowed to serve. Can a gay person pull a trigger as well as a straight person? Obviously they can. Why do we have separated barracks? The main reason is sexual tension. Are we expected to have gay barracks for men and women as well as separating the straight men and women? Gay men and women showers and rest rooms? Not to segregate but for the same reasons we separate men and women. Gay people have always been in our military (at least in living memory) but they kept it to themselves and we were a cohesive fighting force. Allowing them to openly serve IMHO adds confusion were there should be cohesion. The ONLY relevant question about DADT should be “does this make our military stronger or weaker”? Military service is a privilege NOT a right.
Guys I am a freedom loving man and I would defend the homosexuals right to do as they please. However leave our traditions and religious institutions alone. Follow the constitution and keep government in it’s proper place.
I hope this cleared up my views on Marriage and DADT.
I do not hear Rick saying he wants to force Christianity as POTUS.
XavierD
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:22pm@FAVORED93: If the battle we wage is for how the government will run our lives, then the war for freedom is already been lost. If we allow someone with beliefs we share to run someone else’s life through force and with a gun point to their head, we are no better than the other side. Shall we become the monsters that we fight? Or do we stand for liberty, even when we disagree with those that use their liberty wrongly? We waste time and energy that should be used to stand against the true threat to our liberty.
Ask yourself this, what if schools were not run by the government? You would have the choice to send your children where gays are not acceptable. What if the government was out of the labor markets? You could choose not to make a wedding cake for a gay couple. Do you see? It is not the government pushing a gay agenda that is a threat, it is the government pushing any agenda that is a threat. We live in a Republic, we are suppose to be a nation of laws, not a Democracy that is basically mob rule. Until we see the true threat, we are doomed.
Report Post »groundzero
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:54pmDean the Bean, First don’t compare sharia with all reliqious laws. BIG DIFFERENCES. Second, I don’t want my tax $ going to abortions!!! Our government under ur bean brain is a CHARITY. If u want an abortion, or birth pills go buy it yourself – that is what it’s about. The supreme court has legalized abortion BUT DON’T USE my $ for your charity causes. Gay’s ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE our laws on MARRIAGE to mean anything other than a man and a women. GO GET UR OWN CEREMONY!!! ISN’T that what u did with the word “GAY” – took it over – WELL I WILL FIGHT TO MY DEATH FOR U NOT TO CHANGE THE MEANING OF MARRIAGE !!!! It has nothing to do with what your article referrs to . Our laws were made up by Christians,that does not mean it like sharia. You can get an abortion or pills but NOT WITH MY TAX $. GAYS can unite but they are not going to take over the meaning of MARRIAGE. For all u democrats go work at a CHARITY and stay out of US GOVERNMENT. All u do is TAKE my money for your CHARITIES because your to cheap to VOLUNTEER your own money.The government has no BUSINESS in any of these matters other than USING MY MONEY FOR UR CHARITIES and stealing another tradition “MARRIAGE” to mean something else.TO ALL DEMOCRATS GO WORK FOR A CHARITY GET OUT OF GOVERMENT!!!!
Report Post »noland
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:26amI”m with you GZero
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:33amWhere did the Bible get the word marriage from? I just really want to know.
Is the Bible saying that no one got married before it was written?
Report Post »encinom
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 10:23am“Dean the Bean, First don’t compare sharia with all reliqious laws. BIG DIFFERENCES.”
Not really, read Deuts, it has honor killing and nearly every offense is a capital offense with stoning allowed. Other sections of the Bible justifys genocide (the story of Samson great example, the wanton killng of the Caanites, regardless of age, sex or handicap).
Sharia law is only catching up to whats in the Bible.
Report Post »jtajbozeman
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:53pmWrong on so many levels. The marriage vow thing stated the candidate would protect women from “seduction” into “pornography” and notes they’re talking about “coercion.” So, nowhere does it state you promise to ban pornography, but rather you vow to protect women coerced into it against their will.
He badly confuses Reagan’s quote from 1984…Reagan’s quote was to a group of Jewish leaders. Reagan, in fact, pointed out in the same speech that while everyone should be able to be free of government coercion, everyone should also be free to exercise without the govt limiting them. He wasn’t saying he would shy away from religious ideals in govt practice, but rather that there should be no COERCED practice.
The founders themselves made it clear that the new nation founded was based on the idea that natures god guaranteed certain liberties (life, liberty, property, pursuit of happiness) that no govt could take away…but rather merely protect, so to even argue that bringing religion into the mix is odd, let alone “sharia” like is insane.
Report Post »mcgrawactor1
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:49pmSantorum is on the side of life (how shocking and morbid) he is on the side of Freedom (somehow that has been distorted into a negative) and he is a man of strong convictions (not everything goes, he believes in the difference between wrong and right. He also believes in liberty and government staying of of you biz…what’s wrong with that? Do as you do, just don‘t expect us all to think you’re fabulous because you have chosen to live a certain way. Live with your choices and let live, for goodness sake. Leave the rest to God. And for Heaven’s Sake~~you Paul supporters…stop acting like he’s conservative. He’s not. He is the weirdest mishmash of libertarian/liberal/ isolationist/unelectalbe garbage I have ever seen. A vote for Paul for president is wasted. Maybe as a cabinet member, but get real. Let’s not blow this election on pipe dream hopes for Ron Paul (or for that matter on donald Trump~~UUGH!!)
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 2:35amHow can you say that he is for the Government staying out of people’s business?
All of these candidates are the same.
I’m in a tough spot.
Won’t vote for Obama, but all of these people seem crazy too. Guess it’s time for me to not vote.
Report Post »HumbleMan
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 6:01amTo not vote, is a vote for BHO.
As for Santorum’s position on marriage. It is by definition a sacrament of the church. The church does not recognize homosexuality as moral behavior. Liberals always want to redefine language. It’s only semantics, but what if we decided to change the meaning of the word “life”? Let’s change the meaning of “pi” .
I don’t know if we need a Constitutional amendment to protect the meaning of words. But what is left if language becomes shifting sand. I’ll tell you. There can be no lawful society if language is fluid.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 10:27amSantorum warned Senator Ensign of the pendng investigation into the sex scandel. Santorum has no ethics or morla compass.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 11:01am@Humble
“It is by definition a sacrament of the church.”
False. There is a legal definition of marriage, and it does not involve churches at all. You can be married by any church you want: the government won’t consider you married until you apply and receive a marriage license.
Report Post »HumbleMan
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 9:27pmGee “LOCKED”, I guess marriage didn‘t exist before we had goverment’s folks to issue licenses. I forgot you goverment’s lovers think our unalienable rights come from “man”.
Report Post »ZengaPA65
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:47pmWhat do Rick Santorum and Anders Behring Breivik, the guy that killed all those kids in Norway have in common?
The Knights of Malta.
Here’s part of the oath to join:
“I do further promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly and openly against all heretics, Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do to extirpate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex, or condition, and that will hang, bum, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these infamous heretics; rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women, and crush their infants’ heads against the wails in order to annihilate their execrable race. That when the same can not be done openly, I will secretly use the poisonous cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agents of the Pope or superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Father of the Society of Jesus.”
Is this guy you want with all the powers of the NDAA law?
Report Post »rush_is_right
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 9:58amThe Knights of Malta.
they had guts…they stood up to the muslim invaders.
Report Post »Shrugged
Posted on January 11, 2012 at 7:57pmSounds like Obama to me
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:17pmDean Obeidallah,
your straw-man arguments can be summed up by saying: “Any moral law is equivalent to sharia”. That’s a farce and you know it.
And how exactly does killing an innocent baby “heal” a rape victim?
Report Post »ShawnB
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:37pmHMMM why cant the gov. Just stay out of the peoples business all together? Whats the issue here?
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:40pmMaybe instead we should just adopt sharia law, and make the victim marry the rapist, after seeing a therapist.
Report Post »ShawnB
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:48pm@ darkmok agreed….
Report Post »Servant Of YHVH
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:03amI agree with you TH30PH1LUS. I would say that this guy is just throwing a temper tantrum and is out crying in his imam’s beard.
@ShawnB
Report Post »I agree with you as well.
1. The government should NOT spend one red cent on murdering babies, however they do have laws against murder and an abortion is murder.
2. The government should not be allowed to perform marriages (IE., Justices of the Peace or Judges, etc) as they are government employees and marriage is a personal/religious issue which also means that they cannot stop churches from refusing to perform gay marriages.
3. Again, the government should not be allowed to spend money on birth control or anything like that because that is a personal choice made by each of us.
4. It is very well known that the majority of people that watch porn have bigger problems than just that and that their problems are usually overrun onto other people that this person knows or runs into. I would not have a problem with them outlawing it. However, on the other hand, if we want the smallest government possible then technically they do not have any business having anything to do with it either way. However, this nation was built very strongly on a nation of moral people and if we want God to bless us then we do have no choice but for every single one of us including the politicians to live and promote living a moral life. Of course people that do not live moral lives have a lot more to worry about such as the heated lake on Judgement D
TH30PH1LUS
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:43am“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, Religion and Morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism who should labor to subvert these great Pillars…” ~ GEORGE WSHINGTON
American Law & the very Constitution & Bill of Rights were founded on the principles found in the Bible. Making Islam and Christianity equivalent is the work of those who understand neither religion (Rosie O’Donell, anyone?)
Government should NOT enforce a religion, but it’s laws are most definitely grounded in religious principle. Fortunately, the principles to be found in Christianity (unlike some religions) uphold ideas such as equality, and the sanctity of human life.
If you don’t know this, please read and/or visit nations where other religions are prevalent.
Report Post »objectivetruth
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 10:07amIt spares her the agony of giving birth to a satan spawned creature.One that she or someone else may no doubt have to put a bullet in the head one day.
Report Post »To be reminded every day for nine months and possibly for the next eighteen years of the horrible crime with the resulting flash backs hatred and pain and to know what should be a innocent little child is nothing more than your damn rapist mocking you ,raping your soul every day.To have those who are too religious to understand and politicians who wish to appease them ,taking away the rights of the women ,crime victims and replacing it with their will is appaling.When the govt can force women to have a rapists child then they need to be brought to their knees.
I’m going to refrain from speaking what I think about you and others who believe that having a rapists child is a good thing.Its incredibly nasty and it won’t matter you are too hard headed to learn why we hate you.
Favored93
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 11:54am@objectivetruth
Report Post »Murder is Murder is Murder. Rape is OBVIOUSLY a terrible and vicious crime no question but you do not follow one vicious and terrible crime with another. Killing a child in what is supposed to be the safest place on earth because you were hurt I see as the same thing Hitler did to the Jews.
If you lived in Germany during Hitlers time would you kill Jews? I assume you would not. Would you agree with their slaughter? I assume you would not. So why would you do it here? Are you aware of how many children are slaughtered in this country? Are you aware how many of those are as a result of rape? ALMOST NONE!!!!!
ANYONE who agrees with the SLAUGHTER of CHILDREN are the same as those who would do it with a gun.
You can spout the lies about those poor rape victims being your reasons to allow this slaughter all you want but abortion is murder PERIOD!
BTW you are reading this from the hands of a sexual assault victim. I know the pain.
It is a sad thing that our adoption laws are so tough that murder is easier.
Children should be protected and cared for not seen as a punishment and discarded because a girl does not want stretchmarks or because she was hurt by the father.
I am shocked at what thinking people approve.
objectivetruth
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:39pmFavored93
Report Post »In my opinion you aren’t a rape victim.You may have lied and claimed you were though.True rape victims wouldn’t have answered me the way you do.Your equation of me being like hitler was the only proof I or anyone else needed.I see you wish for me to shut up that way no one will ever know how I think right?How much you have to lose if you are caught?Lots I’d say.
I don’t believe you can kill a soul only a body the vessel.Killing the vessal can be done for the right reasons.To protect others from harm To keep a diseased soul from entry.Rape is not only a civil crime its a crime of the soul.
Contrary to your laughafable statistics more abortions are performed every year on married women who have been raped by strangers than you care to imagine.All you are quoting from is those who have reported the rape.
If you are the poster child for therapy for rape victims I’d say it was a huge fail.I’d council other women to avoid all contact with your therapist or you for that matter.You aren’t far above the mark of your own rapist.Actually the rapist may have been better.It only took two hours and harmed you.You on the other hand hurt anyone you come into contact with.
TH30PH1LUS
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 1:12pmWhat we do in this life resonates through eternity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1akRU3–Gs0
Report Post »objectivetruth
Posted on January 9, 2012 at 9:05amToo everyone
Report Post »Fact I don’t want anyone using the govt or legal system to make or enforce laws concerning the decisions they truly have no right to intervene in,in the first place.Abortion is one of those laws they have no business deciding on for someone else.I’m just as adament on protecting citizens from forced abortions as I am at protecting the rights of those to recieve them
FAVORED 93
I didn’t attack you personally.You have the right to believe what you want.I simply don’t want you or anyone else forcing your belief down my throat with a proverbial gun so to speak.Rape is a many flavored crime.More power to you for thinking that you would be able to carry a rapists child.More power to you for equating me with hitler because I wouldn‘t and couldn’t.I must admit I hope you are put in the position to prove what a wonderful women you are and carry the rapists child.You would deserve it for all the abuse you heap on normal women.
justcalldave
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:59pmI just don’t understand how Americans find it so tough to live by the constitution. It was here when you came here. Did you not agree to abide by it?
Report Post »Iam4America
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:17pmI don‘t understand why Americans who live here don’t abide by the Constitution.
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 3:20amJUSTCALLDAVE, thats right. When anyone, Muslim, Atheiest, Gay, or whom ever can tell me why it is wrong to believe and live by The Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule then I might listen. Even if you choose to not believe in God if everyone would follow both how is that a bad thing? As far as being gay, that is choice that a person makes. To think that they have a right to overhaul the law as far as marriage is concerned is wrong. I believe that they should be considered a partner and recieve certain rights. I believe that they should not be harmed or ridiculed in any way. I would never treat them without respect. I believe that the government needs to stay out of it. Rick Santorim is a good and decent man. What he believes in is fair and honest. Abortion is also a personal choice. I can respect that though I do not support it. However to force those of us agasinst it to pay for it is wrong. This so called comedien is a joke, he isn’t funny, but he is a joke. However, he does have a right to express his opinion because he lives in a country that allows him to do just that. At least for now that is. What kills me is the demands that are shoved in our faces. The methods used to destroy lives and carreers just because we disagree with the progressive agenda. They want respect yet they disrespect Christians and Jews. They demand it we believe it should be earned.
Report Post »objectivetruth
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 4:20pmActually no it wasn’t in my familys case.They were here before it was drafted.Both european and native american I might add.That being said I do follow the constitution.
Report Post »jmiller_42
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:57pmSantorum Exposed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gwwmm-cQxU&feature=youtu.be
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:02pmYou’re a progressive TROLL….to be ignored
Report Post »jmiller_42
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:06pmThere is nothing progressive about freedom.
Report Post »jmiller_42
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:08pmI’m not progressive. I am a Christian Conservative.
Report Post »ShyLow
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:29pmSantorum for Shepherd!..2012!!!…or the Lord could be your Shepherd
Report Post »ShawnB
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:36pmUGH…. Screw Santorum! Ron Paul 2012 because he is the most conservative with very little government. I however am not a Christian and he scares the hell out of me.
Report Post »MatthewChapter24
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:38pm@Miller: So what? I’m not for “radical individualism” either and I’m a Christian Conservative. I don’t want the other end of the spectrum–anarchy. And that’s what some are proposing under the guise of “Libertarianism”. If you really are a Christian, then you should understand the concept of a sin nature. All humans have it, though many deny it b/c then they would have to admit that they need a Savior. And most people don’t want to be ruled by our true King, Jesus Christ. They want to rule themselves (which is equal to being ruled by satan himself). In the end, you are going to have to serve somebody. There are only 2 choices.
Report Post »ShawnB
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:40pmthen again according to everyone who disagrees with Santorum is a progressive. If your a Ron Paul fan the last thing we need is a rick in office to have the fing gov tell us what we can and can not do I would say youre a god dam Schwehr. Not Miller Jesus Christ youre a fascist…
Report Post »ShawnB
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:43pm@matthew24 youre insane. I dont believe in any of that. I am not serving satan you nut. No one need to be in Christian law! What do you propose for all the gays, atheist and Islamist, and the Jews? Please I would love to hear your reasoning.
Report Post »jmiller_42
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:55pmMathew
I agree with basically everything you said, I don’t know where we disagree.
I am not for “radical individualism” that is what Santorum sees freedom as though. I am all for Freedom. Some will be Godless no matter what form of Government we put in place, but we will surely drive more to hatred if we rule over them and try to enslave them to our views.
I hope we agree on this
Report Post »XavierD
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:15am@Matthew: If you are not Catholic, then you believe in “radical individualism” or have you forgotten when those that left for Protestant churches were killed?
Having the government tell others what to do is great but what happens when someone that believes differently is elected? “Radical individualism” gives you the ability to believe in God and the Christ how you see fit.
Turn back Matthew a few chapters and reread Matthew 7:3-5 for me again. Tell me that you want someone with a plank in their eye removing the speck from yours.
Our salvation was paid for by Christ who paid for your offenders’ sins, it is between them, not you. If someone want to have a homosexual relationship, it is not your place to judge. Jesus was hated by the Pharisees because he would associate with sinners but who needed the light the most?
Report Post »MatthewChapter24
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:19am@Shawn: I don’t appreciate you calling me insane. You don’t have to agree with me. You have freewill to have your own beliefs, but namecalling is unncessary.
I’m not looking for a Savior in a president. I already have my Savior in Jesus Christ who is the King I ultimately serve. While I support Santorum for US President, I don’t look to him to bring lasting peace, prosperity and morality to our nation and beyond. And I don’t expect Santorum or anyone else to convert people to Christianity through the law, otherwise Jesus died for nothing. I don’t expect any president to impose “Christian Law” nor do I support it b/c Christianity is about changing hearts not about getting people to behave morally while having immoral hearts. But I will not compromise my beliefs for someone elses beliefs. For example, I cannot support abortion and I believe it is against my beliefs to pay for someone elses abortion. People can be gay or atheist or whatever they choose but I won’t compromise my beliefs to accommodate their choices.
It‘s understandable that you think it’s crazy to say someone is either serving God or satan. You still have scales on your eyes. But if you are not living for God–the one who created you and knows everything about you–if you are living according to man’s idea of right and wrong…if you are wandering through this world with no ultimate answer of where you are going when you die… then you are serving the wrong master, my friend.
Report Post »MatthewChapter24
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:32am@XavierD: You misunderstand what I’m saying, but I don’t have endless amounts of time to explain here. Computer posting has its limits. ;-)
And I think that there is some breakdown in the definition of “radical individualism”. I believe in the term when I apply it biblically (i.e., my salvation is individual, not collective and God holds me accountable for how I live my life). But when it comes to our govt that’s a different story. Some people are really crazy when left to their own devices and I want to be protected from them. For example, it’s outrageous that the Occupy people were able to go protest right in front of a representatives personal home.
I don’t want the govt to impose certain things on me, but, if we’re all really honest here, that ship has already sailed (and that is a very lengthy topic). But I do want them to protect my liberties and that means enabling me to worship how I please and not have to compromise my beliefs. Anyone remember the issue of the baker not wanting to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple and then she was getting sued by them? I find that very, very scary to think that is the age we’re living in.
But, I suppose it’s all a moot point anyhow. Jesus already predicted how it would be in the later days. I definitely don’t expect heaven on earth.
Report Post »NOBALONEY
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:56pmBaloney! Here‘s what will CHANGE with Obama’s 2nd term. 1.The Obama’s will be declared King & Queen for life, 2. The million dollar bill replaces the hundred dollar bill. 3. Acorn and OWS will operate camps that Christians and Jews have been sent to. 4. Alaska will be sold to China for interest owed in 2014. 5. Mexican cartels will take over all border states, except for Texas; which Obama declared a terroist state on May 5, 2013.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:59pmYou really do have quite a talent for fantasy there guy…….
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:01pmRofl!!
Report Post »momrules
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:51pmAfter reading that idiots reasons not to vote for Santorum I am now convinced that I will vote for him.
I would love to see America a Christian nation again and I agree with everything that the comic hates.
A Palastinian/Italian/American………..either be an American or not.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:04pmWell said MOM!
Report Post »Iam4America
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:19pmAgree
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:20pmOn this we can definitely agree…..but be aware that since Santorum is making himself known as a threat to the progressives in the republicrat partei, he will now have to be put down….can’t have anyone disturbing the coronation of Romney as the assigned loser and Obama as the assigned winner next November!
Report Post »ShawnB
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:41pm@ momrules thank you for clearing up for us atheist and other religions not to vote for Santorum:)
Report Post »Locked
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 11:25amIf you want a Christian nation, perhaps you should move to the Vatican?
Personally, I want the United States of America, a nation that protects and supports people of all beliefs (provided they don’t harm others). Founded on Christian values – yes. An entirely Christian nation? No. I’m no fan of theocracy.
Report Post »MrMagoo
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:48pmJohnny Carson was funny.This guy is a ******.
Report Post »epming
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:06pmThere’s no one like Johnny-wonder what he would say about obummer.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:47pmThis is just more paranoia from the left. They really need to be put into mental institutions.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:02pmI can be said with some basic proofs that progressive/liberal/marxist believers are suffering from a mental abberation that needs treatment…..I would suggest a long period of rest at Guantanamo.
Report Post »MeteoricLimbo
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:44pmCNN is using a comedian to deliver what they evidently deem news? What a concept. It has a certain disconnect to it.
Report Post »He needs a big red rubber nose and size 15-EEEEE shoes to complete the outfit though
Southern Rebel
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:43pmAmerica was founded upon the Laws of GOD, not Judaism or Christianity, and America was a ‘blessed’ country and we were special. All manner of ‘evils’ happened in the country when we were under Gods law, but that’s what His Law provides…Liberty!
Report Post »Yes Gay marriage should be annuled, Yes, gov’t should stop paying for birth-control. You can’t ban porn even under Gods law, but you sure can limit it’s exposure in the market place just like they did with tobacco.
I think I like Santorum 2 as much as I’m beginning to like Santorum 1, but to compare it to the Taliban with a hate based religion based on lies and bs, nothing good will come of it and nothing HAS ever come out of Islam that is good.
Not to worry though…we‘ll elect a ’moderate‘ mormon and we’ll be ripe for Judgement by the Lord…but if you look around, it’s arleady happening.
If ‘christians’ don’t like Santorum, y‘all ain’t going to like the Kingdom of God either. :)
C. Schwehr
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:58pmConsidering that back in the late 18th century the only things influencing western civilization were those Judeo-Christian values that you seem to think didn’t exist back then (check history, not the dogma of your church) then your point is incorrect. America is NOT a special country other than the fact that is was originally founded with more personal freedoms for it’s people than any other on the face of the earth at the time and this simple fact allowed for the growth of this country into the powerhouse for freedom that it used to be.
Report Post »A country that is supposedly special, a country that was blessed by God cannot fall into the gutter as this country has done in the last three years….We are not special…we are not “blessed”, we are a people who have forgotten how to be free and independent citizens of a country that we have allowed to sink into the gutter because of our own laziness and greed for the posessions of others that we have not earned. And now we must re-learn how to be citizens again…how to stand on our own two feet and make our way in the world again……starting with removing the slave masters currently gutting this once great nation!
ZengaPA65
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:30pmWhich God was America founded on? The all seeing eye of Horus on the back on the dollar?
Novus Ordo Seclorum 2012
Report Post »followthelamb
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:57pmSouthern Rebel, I like how you think. Anyone who thinks this country hasn‘t been blessed by God or who thinks we aren’t special needs to try living somewhere else for awhile. This was the greatest country on earth. Shame we’re going the way of Rome. It’s been said countless times, but never loses it’s truth- Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
Report Post »tbb
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:31pmThe constitution was written with Judeo/Christian values. I see no problem with going back to the constitution.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:38pmHe obviously does….another hater of the traditional values that made this country what it was, and no longer is…..GREAT.
Report Post »jmiller_42
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:43pmI’m sorry, but the values were not Judeo/Christian, they were just Christian. The part that was Christian, was that we were free to live in how we deemed fit, not how the Government, or State run church told us we needed to. We were accountable only to our God, and the limited government was meant only to protect us from others who would infringe on that right.
Report Post »justcalldave
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:56pmAbsolutely! What do you people find so threatening about the constitution. You came here knowing it was our law!
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:09pmNOTE TO THE PROGRESSIVE TROLL JMILLER_42: The Judeo-Christian tradition of western civilization is derived from the fact that historically speaking christianity is directly derived from the Jewish faith (in which you’ll notice that the christian bible includes the Old Testament which is essentially the Jewish Torah). Therefore your ludicrous attempt at separating the Judeo-Christian traditions into a Christian ONLY tradition is a lie and completely without any merit for this conversation. But then, you’re a TROLL who is merely attempting to muddy the waters surrounding said conversation. Begone!
Report Post »jmiller_42
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:26pmTo the name caller
Please tell me the difference between Judaism and Christianity? Then tell me if America was founded on Jewish principles, why was the Law of Moses not mentioned?
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:31pmThe Next President Of The United States…Gov Rick Perry
On To South Carolina
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGN_9ACuvh4&feature=youtu.be
Perry For President
Report Post »http://www.rickperry.org/
WakingSheep
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:37pmPerry = Bush
I’ll pass.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:25pmNot going to happen. He’s got some good ideas (cutting the time Congress is in session by half) but he’s also waaaay too soft on the mexican invaders. I‘d rather see Gingrich’s policy of cutting off all federal aid to any “Sanctuary City” in the country….and disallowing ALL federal assistance to illegal aliens.
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 6:52pmCheck Out This Photo….
Regardless of what ANYONE says….THIS is MY next President
http://yfrog.com/g05cadjj
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 7, 2012 at 3:30amGov Perry’s reputation is very different than George W Bush
The one knock on Perry is that his poor debate performances and periodic campaign trail gaffes will open him to the same vulnerabilities in office as President Bush: an inability to respond to criticism or explain his own policies. That’s a fair concern, but it should not be overstated. First, Perry’s reputation in Texas is very different from Bush’s. Bush was all about bipartisan bonhomie; Perry has left the state littered with the political corpses of people who stood in his way. Remember Jim Hightower, the left-wing talker who coined the phrase “the only things in the middle of the road are yellow lines and dead armadillos”? Perry ended his political career 21 years ago. Maybe Perry’s not Demosthenes, but he knows how build a team that gets his message out and go after his foes.
Second, debating skill takes on outsize importance in the primaries, when candidates have to stand out on a stage crowded with 7 or 8 people who all agree with each other 80-90% of the time. All Rick Perry needs to do is step onstage and everyone will know how he’s different from Barack Obama
http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2011/12/19/dont-settle-rick-perry-for-president/
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 7, 2012 at 3:35amOn Security
http://www.rickperry.org/issues/national-security/
While advancing our interests abroad, Perry believes it is equally important to defend our interests at home by securing our border.
As president, Perry will substantially increase manpower, technology and fencing along the border to protect the American homeland and stop illegal immigration. This strategy has proven effective in Texas, where Gov. Perry has directed nearly $400 million in state tax dollars to do the federal government’s job of securing the border.
Perry will deploy thousands of National Guardsmen to the border until a sufficient number of border patrol agents can be hired and trained. He will order federal officials to expedite construction of strategic fencing, especially in high traffic areas where manpower alone is insufficient to do the job. And he will make greater use of unmanned aerial assets to gather reliable, real-time intelligence that law enforcement can immediately act upon
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 7, 2012 at 3:38amimmigrants and in-state tuition
These are students in Texas who ONLY get this in-state tuition rate if they COMMIT to becoming LEGAL citizens
It is NOT amnesty…and Gov Rick Perry is on record opposing the federal DREAM ACT
http://www.redstate.com/tex_whitley/2011/09/23/rick-perry-is-right-on-in-state-tuition-for-immigrants-in-texas/
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on January 7, 2012 at 3:43amGov Rick Perry has been endorsed by America’s sheriff…Sheriff Joe
http://blog.4president.org/2012/2011/11/sheriff-joe-arpaio-endorses-gov-rick-perry-for-president.html
Report Post »jmiller_42
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:30pmwhile I agree with just about every belief that Rick Santorum has, I totally disagree with the way he wants to use law to force others into his same beliefs. This is the fundamental flaw of Santorum. It is what guides his every decision. But, we as Christians were taught (by the Bible) that it was for Freedom that Christ set us free. The Law was unable to bring righteousness, it was only grace shown through love that can set people free to obey God. Jesus is the fulfillment of the Law, we cannot try to force obedience or morals on others, it simply won’t work.
Report Post »Al J Zira
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:41pmDo you have an example go Santorum forcing people into his beliefs thru use of the la?
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:48pmI assume then that you don‘t believe in laws or morals because people can’t be forced into meeting a minimum standard of personal responsibility for their own lives and their actions which affect other people. Your logic impaired arguement is without merit since it is the responsibility of the government to enforce such minimum standards such as “thou shalt not murder”, thou shalt not steal, and even thou shalt not commit adultry (although that one is pretty much ignored by progressives such as yourself).
Report Post »Let’s see what your feelings would be if you found your 13 year old daughter spread eagled on your couch doing the magic mambo with your neighbor next door. Would you just write it off to not being able to force this guy to rein in his libido (since he is your age after all) and forgive him since you can’t force him to be a moral person? Or would you beat the dog snot out of the SOB and turn him in to the police while getting your wonderful little 13yr old daughter AIDS tested and then grounded for the rest of the year????? Geez you progressives can be soooooo stupid when you try to excuse the stupidity of others!!!!
jmiller_42
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:04pmC. SCHWEHR
Report Post »That man would be in violating my (because my daughter is still my responsibility) rights. I would be free to kick his butt, and justifiably so. He would have to deal with the consequences of his actions, but I would try to show him love at some point (like Jesus did on the cross as others crucified him) and perhaps show him a better way to live his life.
jmiller_42
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:04pmal jez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gwwmm-cQxU&feature=youtu.be
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:30pmBut you just said that you can’t force a person to adhere to a certain morality. And kicking his butt over having sex with your daughter is a violation of HIS rights to be free from violent attack. As for attempting to change his ways, your attempts will be in vain since you cannot force your own moral code on to him and you’ll just wind up with a pregnant teenager instead…..your logic is completely lacking…..and so is your morality.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:36pmTo Al J ZERA: No, he can’t name one example of Santorum forcing his personal morality on to anyone (except maybe his own children which is his right and responsibility). But he thinks it makes for a good excuse to try and eliminate Santorum as a legitimate candidate for the Presidency….this is why I believe him to be a progressive TROLL who is trying to make those here believe he’s a christian conservative…..this is not the thinking of a christian conservative.
Report Post »jmiller_42
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:38pmI would be protecting my rights. Kicking his butt would not change his heart, it may change his actions but his heart would be corrupt. God does not care about our filthy rags of heartless obedience, He looks at the heart. You are right, I am an evil man and a sinner. Only thing good is when I let the love that Jesus has shown to me shine through. And that seed of love is the only thing that would save that young man’s soul. His butt beating would be justified and deserved, but we all deserve a butt beating.
Report Post »jmiller_42
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:51pmSchwer
You make my argument for me. You identify me as not a Godless progressive, under your rule (as you stated in your previous posts) you would throw me in Guantanamo because I don’t believe that the Law is the answer to making people moral. You would be the dictator throwing me in prison for not following your state run church. You would probably kill me because as the Jewish law teaches the first commandment is to love your God with all your heart and serve only Him. That is a commandment that deserves death if not followed. Since you believe that we live under a form of that Law, you would kill me because you see me as a godless liberal, even though I am the farthest thing from it.
United states was based on Freedom from the Law. Just as the Bible teaches (new testament) teaches that we are to be free from the Law. Yes we love God, and in turn obey His commands and follow His Laws. But we are no longer bound and punished because Jesus is our redeemer. I’m done with the arguments, if you are too blind to understand this I am no longer going to go in circles
Report Post »MatthewChapter24
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:55pm@Miller- I hear what you’re saying about grace and I agree with that. I’m not looking for a Savior. I already have one in Jesus Christ. However, don’t forget that Jesus said this:
“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven”. Matthew 5:17-19
The old testament is largely about the law and our inability to obey it. The new testament is about our hearts. Our salvation is not based on works or the law. Our salvation is a gift from God through his love, mercy and grace. Because there is nothing we could ever do to earn our way into fellowship with a Holy God. No matter how hard we try. However, it does not mean that we are to do as we please. Jesus did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill its completion.
Report Post »jmiller_42
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:58pmMatthew again :)
I agreed with everything you just said. Sorry you feel you are in disagreement with me.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:29pmUhh, boom, losing.
Report Post »This guy isn’t releasing his inner warlock. He just can’t fathom what it takes to do 10 hookers, a pound of cocaine, and crash a sports car, while telling off your boss.
That is what America is about, not being a whiny little arab/italian/whatever.
Who is with me?
Laus Deo
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:53pmI’ll give you a hint: he’s got 2 thumbs.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:38pmLAUS DEO: He may have two thumbs…but are they opposable? I would suspect that he isn’t human.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:44pmWarlocks aren’t human. Get with the party.
Report Post »jedi.kep
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:25pmYou liberal hypocrites. You all demand TOLERANCE until you actually have to show some yourselves.
Report Post »connor_Tist
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:28pmAmen brother!
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:58pmTOLERANCE is a one-way street in La La land
Report Post »I checked it out with Google map
CatB
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:19pmIt’s like that “civility” they are always talking about .. which means you on the right shut up! While they are VILE! To H with that and all of “them”.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:38pmThat’s the islamist coming out in him….
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 12:29amSeriously. And these same lefties have no problem with legislating our bathrooms (mandatory 1.6 GPF toilets), food, light bulbs, washing machines and dryers, cars, who businesses can hire (anti-discrimination laws), who businesses can serve.
They also tried to force the Boy Scouts into accepting homosexuals and atheists into their organization even though they’re a private organization.
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:20pmAt first i thought it said Arab american comics penis asks what America would look like. Im goin to bed
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:08pmditto…..
Report Post »democritusoilder267
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:20pmEven though I’m laughing I can agree with Dean Obeidallah on Rick Santorum. I wouldn’t mind a President who is Christian (Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, and George Bush). But I feel individuals like Rick Santorum will shove their faith down our throats and force our country to become a Christian nation. Our nation is secular and should stay that way. I have no problem with different groups practicing their faiths just let the government govern and the religious bodies stay away.
Report Post »connor_Tist
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:26pmSounds good to me. I’d rather someone push christianity than shove gay activism, Global Warming, Planned Parenthood down my throat.
Report Post »connor_Tist
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:28pmBy the way, our nation has never been secular friend. It was founded on Godly principals. Take time to visit the capitol, US and read every state constitution which talks about God. Hey, how about the Constitution. Ever read that? Our rights are unalienable rights given to us by GOD. And only he can take them away—no matter how hard the Dictator Obama tries!
Report Post »democritusoilder267
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:35pmSorry to break the bad news to you. But the United States is not and never will be a Christian nation.
http://nobeliefs.com/Tripoli.htm
“Many Religious Right activists have attempted to rewrite history by asserting that the United States government derived from Christian foundations, that our Founding Fathers originally aimed for a Christian nation. This idea simply does not hold to the historical evidence.”
“Of course many Americans did practice Christianity, but so also did many believe in deistic philosophy. Indeed, most of our influential Founding Fathers, although they respected the rights of other religionists, held to deism and Freemasonry tenets rather than to Christianity.”
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/farrell_till/myth.html
http://www.salon.com/2009/04/14/christian_nation/
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-07-04/opinion/davis.jefferson.other.words_1_church-and-state-religious-freedom-virginia-statute?_s=PM:OPINION
Learn from history and not the preacher politicians who say otherwise.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:36pmInteresting that you begin with a lie…..the United States being a “secular” nation and all that. Santorum is stating what the country’s moral standards USED to be like….and want’s to see this nation that was founded using Judeo-Christian morality return to some sort of standards instead of the progressive lack of ANY standards whatsoever.
Report Post »Incidentally, anyone who declares themselves to be a (name one)/American is NOT an American, especially one who is progressive in his beliefs and is an islamist in his political thinking. Those two character defects identify a person as being an ENEMY of the United States!
WakingSheep
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:36pmRon Paul is the only way!
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:36pmOf the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence, nearly half (24) held seminary or Bible school degrees.
George Washington
1st U.S. President
“While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian.”
“It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and Bible.”
“What students would learn in American schools above all is the religion of Jesus Christ.”
“It is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favors.”
“Our Constitution was made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the governance of any others.”
John Adams
“The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.”
–Adams wrote this on June 28, 1813, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson.
“An education recieved by watching TV, is really no education at all”
Report Post »Rational Man, January 05, 2012…..he he he he ……………
democritusoilder267
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:38pmRead the links I provided and you’ll learn the truth about our nation. Sad to see how many do not know the history of the our country; do not understand Islam or progressive politics. My parents are Muslim and I can say Islam is not perfect like any other religion. But I’m a Deist and happy.
Report Post »democritusoilder267
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:48pmWhat I find by using quotes is that they mean anything you want them to mean. The American government was founded by leaders who wanted religious freedom and a secular nation; not a Christian nation.
If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.
– George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789, quoted from Albert J Menendez and Edd Doerr, The Great Quotations on Religious Freedom
“The founders of our nation were nearly all Infidels, and that of the presidents who had thus far been elected [Washington; Adams; Jefferson; Madison; Monroe; Adams; Jackson] not a one had professed a belief in Christianity….
“Among all our presidents from Washington downward, not one was a professor of religion, at least not of more than Unitarianism.”
– The Reverend Doctor Bird Wilson, an Episcopal minister in Albany, New York, in a sermon preached in October, 1831, first sentence quoted in John E Remsberg, Six Historic Americans, second sentence quoted in Paul F Boller, George Washington & Religion, pp. 14-15
http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:56pmWell, that’s why we have been sent Paul, and isn’t it ironic how he is roughly the same age Aaron was in the Bible?
Report Post »democritusoilder267
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:00pmDo you mean the older brother of Moses?
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:09pmdemocritusoilder267,
Report Post »No, I mean Aaron “The Prophet” and Moses the semi-god. Remember it says “Aaron will be your prophet in the room” and Moses will be like God to Pharaoh.
RepubliCorp
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:11pmCONNOR_TIST
Sounds good to me. I’d rather someone push christianity than shove gay activism, Global Warming, Planned Parenthood down my throat.
Report Post »Thank You!!!!! Check and mate!
Eliasim
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:17pmdemocritusoilder267,
Report Post »No, you see Aaron was actually born, but Moses was not, and he was put in an Ark at the river’s brink and covered with slime, so his spirit wouldn’t be noticed.
RepubliCorp
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 11:19pmWAKINGSHEEP You are the millionth RP supporter. You won a tin foil hat. You may pick up your prize at the Bilderberg Hotel………..
Report Post »NOBAMA201258
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 9:37amBarack obama a Christian? The jury is still out on that one. I’m sick of the anti-Christian bias in the media while muslims carry out “honor” killings and you never hear about it in the MSM, the muslims are going to reap what you have sown. BTW,how can anyone believe the 72 virgin crap ?
Report Post »Dumbwhiteguy
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:19pmPeople. We are being transformed into the new world order. Any questions?
Report Post »WakingSheep
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:36pmRon Paul 2012! F the NWO!
Report Post »Laus Deo
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:17pmSomebody needs to be b!tch-slapped to the ground.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on January 5, 2012 at 10:37pmAnd in that effort, it is preferred that you use a real “b!tch” to perform this corrective action….
Report Post »NOBAMA201258
Posted on January 6, 2012 at 9:40amSounds kinda muslim to me,LAUS
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