Are Americans Becoming More Libertarian-Minded?
- Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:23pm by
Billy Hallowell
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The basic definition of a libertarian is “a person who maintains the doctrine of free will,” but in political circles, the word becomes more complex, encompassing a wide range of perspectives on a litany of issues.
Generally speaking, though, libertarianism — in a practical sense — can be boiled down to a penchant for a more minimized governmental role in society and an increase in individual freedom and expression.
With recent societal patterns in mind, it is important to ask: Are Americans becoming more libertarian-minded? On The New York Times’ FiveThirtyEight blog this morning, Nate Silver explored the issue, writing the following:
Libertarianism has been touted as the wave of America’s political future for many years, generally with more enthusiasm than evidence. But there are some tangible signs that Americans’ attitudes are in fact moving in that direction.
These “tangible signs” come from polling data that was collected earlier this month. According to Silver, CNN has been asking the following questions since 1993:
Some people think the government is trying to do too many things that should be left to individuals and businesses. Others think that government should do more to solve our country’s problems. Which comes closer to your own view?
Some people think the government should promote traditional values in our society. Others think the government should not favor any particular set of values. Which comes closer to your own view?
In terms of the first question, a libertarian would typically say that the government is trying to do too much. As for the second question, he or she would contend that the government should not favor a “particular set of values.”
Interestingly, these indicators have stayed fairly consistent over time. But, the libertarian response to both questions reached an all-time high in the recent CNN study. It was found that 63 percent of respondents feel that the government is currently doing too much, with only 46 percent indicating that the government should promote traditional values. Below, you can see a Times graphic that shows the uptick and trend in libertarian views:
With opinions changing about gay marriage and with increasing scrutiny over government spending, these patterns are certainly interesting. But, are they indicative of a permanent collective swing towards libertarianism? That remains to be seen.
(h/t FiveThirtyEight)
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Comments (166)
ProbIemSoIver
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:56pmATTENTION !!!! We need to Start a Progressive Nightmare. I HAVE THE PERFECT PLAN !!!!!
Join a liberal website’s chatroom such as MSNBC. We Post headlines from the BLAZE and others in them. WE distribute the real news on these sites. In doing so, we enrage the leftists, trolls and media elite. The more people that do this, the more overwhelming it will be.
TEA!
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 2:01pm@ProbIemSoIver
Report Post »Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:56pm
‘ATTENTION !!!! We need to Start a Progressive Nightmare. I HAVE THE PERFECT PLAN !!!!!’
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I think you will find the opposing side usually welcomes a healthy debate. It will not be a ‘nightmare’ for liberals if you visit their chat rooms and debate. However, if your arguments‘ proofs are mainly ’because the bible said so’, you will not get very far. You will need to prove your points with logic and examples, and avoid death threats and name-calling. If you think you can do that, more power to you :)
Baikonur
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:49pmI think US can learn a lot from how Western European countries handle this issue of ‘how much government involvement is necessary and in what areas of life’. Where I live, the government provides a lot more in the form of social services: if you lose your job, you receive 2 years unemployment benefits at 70% salary, health insurance is mandatory to purchase, but you can get financial aid if you cannot afford it, and there are very strict rules on the use of pesticides and hormones in agriculture and animal husbandry (making food much nicer but more expensive at the grocery store). Public transportation is fantastic–clean, safe, frequent, and inexpensive. There are a lot more regulations than in the US–for example, new dog owners of dogs over a certain size are required to take and complete a full dog ovedience course. This all may sound like over regulation to Americans, but it creates a sense of security and peace for average people and makes daily life better for everyone. Socially, there are less regulations than in the US — civil partnerships for gay people are 100% accepted and confer the same rights as marriage (and yes, seeing two men or two women holding hands is normal), marijuana is illegal, but decriminalized–posession merits a ticket, like a driving violation. You can drink wine in parks and festivals. All this results in a society that has violent crime rates that are 10 times lower than the US, and a populace that is not stressed and angry all the time.
Report Post »fatsomann
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 2:03pmFinanced on the backs of the taxpayers.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 2:12pm@fatsomann
Report Post »Posted on June 20, 2011 at 2:03pm
‘Financed on the backs of the taxpayers.’
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Yes, of course it is. I am happy that my taxes go to this. My taxes are slightly, but not much higher than they were in the US. In return, I know I will not be homeless and destitute if I lose my job or have a medical problem. This gives me peace of mind. The government spends the taxes it collects on making the lives of its citizens better and safer. The US government, however, spends your tax dollars on fighting foreign wars. Is that really better?
Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 3:10pm@Baikonur
I’m glad to see you at least reside there.
I only wish all the people here with your mindset would join you in your socialist paradise.
It seems so simple. What they desire already exists. Why not just go there and take advantage of all those goodies, instead of wasting their lives trying to fundamentally change this land that they seem to despise so much.
It must be that liberal gene that makes them crave power and dominance over others.
They can’t stand to see a free and happy people living their lives without being controlled and herded.
Baaaa baaaaa now.
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 3:38pm@Baikonur
“all may sound like over regulation to Americans, but it creates a sense of security and peace for average people and makes daily life better for everyone”
I am happy that you feel comfortable, living in your “ant farm”. I think I will stick with the country life, far away from dog obedience classes and 75% taxes. My shotgun provides my continued security and costs a heck of a lot less.
Report Post »jessieH
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:43pmWe might as well, look how screwed up the Democrats & Republicans have been, lately. Cons, tax cheats, slimeballs, liars, womanizers, Housing fraud, bank fraud, terrorist ties, thieves, dictator style politics, and the list goes on and on. Libertarians can’t be any worse than this lot.
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 2:41pm“Libertarians can’t be any worse than this lot.”
And to add to your comment — even if Libertarian Polititians (and their staff) WERE like that…there would be a whole lot LESS of them to do that. And that is by Libertarian design, of course.
Report Post »eflatminor
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:41pmThis country is a one-party country. Half of it is called Republican and half is called Democrat. It doesn’t make any difference. All the really good ideas belong to the Libertarians.
Hugh Downs
Report Post »termase
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:37pm“A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have….” – Thomas Jefferson
Report Post »fatsomann
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:31pmWhen I used to think about Libertarianism I thought no way humans can handle that kind of freedom – very scary. Like Jack Nicholson‘s character in A Few Good Men telling people that they couldn’t handle the truth I thought we, as a country couldn’t handle that kind of freedom. Now I’m thinking BRING IT ON.
Report Post »DebbieFisher
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:23pmI am a Libertarian, I guess: I don’t that the government has NO role, but that it has a LIMITED obligation to protect society, especially of those who would rob us of “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”. When an economic system (most often capitalism) is supporting the truths declared by our founding fathers as they dissolved the bonds with Great Britain, I will support the economic system and the government that protects us both. When either the government (the Nixon and the Obama administrations) or the economic system (psuedo-capitalists like J.P. Morgan or George Soros) become enemies of our “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”, I will oppose one or both of those hostile entities. I hope I have made myself clear on this topic.
Report Post »tmbell87
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:15pm@JohnGalt
Report Post »The fact that you have the handle “JohnGalt” and yet you quote the bible as the source of an individual’s free will is offensive to any true objectivist. So I guess you don’t mind following the reason and logic of Ayn Rand when it comes philosophical and social issues, but you don‘t follow it when it comes to the existence of your god and where man’s rights come from? Interesting. Either way, I don’t quote scripture as reason for my arguments when I am an atheist, so how about you stay away from god when you are representing objectivism? This isn’t a demand, just a request.
nomercy63
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:14pmWhy do I need to have a label as an American???? I am an American plain and simple and if you want to put a label on me I am a constitutionalist because that is what we are founded on and nothing else!
Report Post »PatriotSmith
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:08pmwow its about time…
Report Post »JQPublic
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:59pmLibertarianism is still miss understood by a lot of people. Liberals think it means ultra conservative because of the small government stance. Conseratives think it means liberal because of the legalization of drugs. Ultimately liberals, conservatives and the majority of the general population do not want Libertarianism to take hold because all three groups get their power and perks from a large government. Too many people today have forgotten what personal responsibilty means and have no desire to remember.
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:27pmWell stated.
Report Post »Verum Ad Potentia
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:59pm“Are Americans Becoming More Libertarian-Minded?”
Having become disgusted with the creeping progressive infiltration of the GOP, I quit the party and am now an independent libertarian, so for me the answer is a resounding YES!
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:32pmDid someone say “RINO”?
:-)
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:56pmI am not all that sure they are moving towards LIBERALISM.. What people are doing is moving away from the government being involved in their lives to the extent they are..99% of the populace DO NOT like being told what to eat.. wear.. think and do..they think they are LORD and MASTER over their kids.. and are tired of having the government involved in making them pay for the 1% who are to stupid to think for themselves.. even the LIBERALS I know are FED UP.. everytime they complain about the government LOCAL or FEDERAL I point out to them that THEY are the ones who thought it was good when it was the OTHER guy.. now that it comes to them they aren’t so happy.. many of them have gotten OFF THE FENCE lately as here in IL they are really putting the screws to the people..If it takes them to be considered a Libertarian than they will take it to the COMMUNIST state this has become..
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:54pmYes we are!
Report Post »teachingazteca
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:54pmThis graph is actually not good for making a conclusion like this, be cause the data points are not at constant intervals across time. And one should also consider the fact that government has been doing more, which could influence this data. But hey, if it’s moving in that direction, I won’t complain! :)
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:48pmcall me what you want,conservative, libertarian, racist,etc, just don’t call me a communist,socialist marxis,anti american, muslim loving idiot,like the obama administration
Report Post »OhSuzieQ
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:43pmI’m with you!
Report Post »oldasdirt
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:45pmI am still a conservitive.I belive in the constitution and the Laws that for the first 150 years made us the greatest nation on earth.EVER. Other minded people have torn,twisted,our constitution to no good results. Our constitution is like our health care system.It needs work.It does not need to be destroyed.
Report Post »Wino911
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:39pmIt’s unclear to me where the majority of Libertarians stand on abortion?
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:54pmit’s a medical procedure to be done and recommended by a doctor
not the Govt.
but if the courts rule it as murder than it would be treated as such.
Report Post »rienheart
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:54pmThis Libertarian feels that it is a Decision between Both people involved, and their Maker. No one Else. Government should not be involved PERIOD.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:05pmNo…Libertarians that I know are against MURDER…The Government regulates very little, but murder…they dont tolerate. But that is a split in Libertarian circles…
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:17pmAbortion is pretty low on my list of priorities, but personally, I’m against its use as birth control – take responsibility for your own actions. For rape, incest, and if the mother’s life is endangered – it’s okay.
Report Post »As a Libertarian Constitutionalist, my highest priority is to end government intrusion into private life with unnecessary regulation, corruption, and wasteful spending.
Liberty and justice for all. Man can rule himself better than any king or tyrant or any government entity.
If the Federal government refuses to do its job and protect the borders, the states can and should take responsibility and protect themselves. Go Arizona! Go Georgia!
Take the power to print money away from the Federal Reserve. People’s life savings are dwindling because they are “digitizing” – same as printing money unbacked by gold and lowering the value of the dollar. This is theft and why counterfeiting is illegal for everyone except the Fed. The money I worked for 30 years ago is worth about 18 cents.. and I worked hard for that other 82 cents which the government stole from us.
Susan Harkins
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:24pm@WINO911
As a Libertarian, I can tell you — and Dusty is right in it being divisive w/in the party.
Privately, I think it IS my business ALONE, if I want an abortion.
Publicly, I think that is NOT the Govt’s business, that they get involved with it.
Religiously, Its really none of your business — no offense.
And lastly, Libertarians are Social Liberals + Fiscal Conservatives, if that is any consolation. We believe in MAXIMUM individual freedom and MINIMAL governmental intrusion (esp. in private matters as such).
I hope that helps!
;-)
Report Post »tmbell87
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:30pmTheres more to it than that. The issue of abortion gets clouded in the political spectrum. Most libertarians believe there is a contradiction of rights between the mother and fetus. The mother‘s right to her own body and the fetus’ right to life. A contradiction of rights cannot exist so one of those premises has to be wrong. Also bear in mind that “rights” are not situational or convenient. A woman cannot have the right to her own body in one moment, then not have it the next. Rights are inalienable and everlasting. Therefore, most libertarians believe it should be legal. Is it right or wrong? Thats for the individual to decide. The libertarian stance on the issue is more about the governements role rather than the abortion itself. I, personally, am pro-choice. I would never elect or push for my wife or any woman to get an abortion, but that’s my personal choice. I don’t believe it is immoral, it’s just not for me. However, just because I find something distasteful or against my beliefs, I will not impose my standards on someone else.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:34pmAbortion is an easy read: If you’re for it, you’ve got issues to sort out.
I would never hang out or break bread with anybody that was apathetic towards having an abortion, because it’s a direct reflection on their character. And, people with character issues are unreliable. And, unreliable people do not deserve my time.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 2:13pm@TMBELL87 excellent response, I believe you hit the head of the nail with your comment.
I, personally, would never choose abortion. I would never force anyone I know or loved to have an abortion. I do believe it is the choice of the mother.
Overall, as far as politics go, I don’t believe the federal government has a say in abortions. Leave the decision to the states.
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 3:27pmhauschild
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:34pm
Abortion is an easy read: If you’re for it, you’ve got issues to sort out.
I would never hang out or break bread with anybody that was apathetic towards having an abortion, because it’s a direct reflection on their character. And, people with character issues are unreliable. And, unreliable people do not deserve my time.
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@hauschild
I think your comments and chain of reasoning is pretty shallow, zealous, authoritative, robotic, and typical of the die-hard Socially Conservative Republican.
I think it represents your ‘character’ and you would NEVER find me ‘breaking bread’ with you because of these OCD, “better than thou”, overly judgemental, religious fanatic, and anal retentive character issues that you have.
Best Regards,
A die-hard Libertarian ;-)
Report Post »Progessives=Fail
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 4:17pmWhat about Liberty for the unborn child? Who protects the rights of the unborn? Or do you not care?
Report Post »Progessives=Fail
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 4:18pm<– also a libertarian btw.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 6:47pm@PROGESSIVES=FAIL I think TMBELL87 provided sufficient argument of the rights of the unborn vs the rights of the mother. TMBELL87 made a good point to that effect. I believe the mothers rights trumps that of the unborn.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 8:54pmYou got it American Soldier….It’s up to the States….This isn’t a one size fits all country. I hate abortion. Roe v. Wade is unconstitutional. If the people of my State want to make it an illegal act, then we should be able to make it so. That’s the way the Constitution works. If the country wishes to make it illegal throughout the land, thats where Constitutional amendments come in. It’s pretty simple. If Massachusetts wants same-sex so-called marriage (I wouldn’t tolerate it in my State), that’s no business of mine. The federal government shouldn’t recognize any marriages, through tax law or anything else. My State doesn’t have to recognize so-called same-sex marriage…..it’s all about the Constitution.
Report Post »welovetheUSA
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:39pmWant to make liberal’s mad……….defend the United States.
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:12pmYea…one of my bumper stickers says: “Annoy A Politician ~ Defend The Constitution”.
Report Post »NoIPhone
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:35pmI definately am becoming more libertarian. And, write to state and US leaders and demand cuts, and ask for less government intrusion. And, try to explain what Liberties we are losing every day to others by Facebook, Freedom Connector, Face to Face and in personal letters.
Report Post »And, I am reading 7 Tipping Points that Saved the World and because I have been a Believer in the Saving Grace of God thru Jesus for 53 years, the tipping points are not new to me.
Get educated and Be tipping point #8 to reach those who do not know that the government is not God or Savior.
Sam Brown
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:31pmI think more Americans are becoming conservative and turning against the progressive liberals and Repubs. When the crash hits there are going to be alot of conservatives.
Report Post »leeznewz1
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 2:09pmLibertarian is not about liberal or conservative! Libertarians don’t want any set of ideals foisted on anyone else. Libertarians want you to have the freedom to be “Christian conservative” or “humanist liberal” or “raving atheist” but not have any of those views be legislated. Maximum freedom for everyone…..not just the people who agree with you.
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 2:45pm@LEEZ
“Libertarians want you to have the freedom to be “Christian conservative” or “humanist liberal” or “raving atheist” but not have any of those views be legislated.”
You are SO, right on the mark!
Key point: “Govt – GTFO!”
:-)
Report Post »Itchee Dryback
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 2:56pmleeznewz1
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 2:09pm
Libertarian is not about liberal or conservative! Maximum freedom for everyone…..not just the people who agree with you.
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What do libertarians think people should NOT be free to do?…(Are they the only group that can be accurately be define by a dictionary definition?)..
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:29pmI am A proud Libertarian. Registered Independent since 1983.
TEA!
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:09pm@ProbIemSoIver
Cool…I have been since 2006.
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:25pmI’m hoping for conservatism with a twist of libertarianism.
Report Post »(No Ron Paul, please)
LibertariansUnite
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 4:50pmThis is not Ice Cream, Politics doesn’t have over 50 flavors for you to choose from.
It is either Constitutionalist/ or social planner, its up to you!
Report Post »Visions (Southern Cross)
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:25pmi hope so
Report Post »Visions (Southern Cross)
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:24pmi hope so!
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:25pmme too
Report Post »Revere1
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:29pmRon Paul certainly hopes people are becoming more libertarian. http://www.elephantwatcher.com/p/candidate-profiles.html#paul
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:34pmfirst they have to break out of the mind control
Report Post »Reptilian response and learn to love their enimies as well as their
Friends . Wars is consuming America mind and soul.
TomFerrari
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:43pmThis nation was designed to be libertarian.
We have strayed FAR, FAR away from that.
While I believe we should return to our original intent, I contend we simply cannot get there is any short order. It will take decades of teaching our children to be responsible and accountable citizens. It will take a return to traditional Judeo-Christian values. And that cannot happen overnight.
That is my argument with Ron Paul.
His quirky mannerisms are his greatest obstacle.
Next, for me, is my fear that he believes we can do this overnight.
However, it may take someone like him to push the pendulum back to center.
Anything less, and we are likely to compromise our way into no significant changes at all.
The socialist democrat people (especially the obama koolaid drinkers) learned that they could get compromise, so they moved EXTREMELY FAR to the left – then, when they get compromises, they still get the socialist result they actually hoped for. This is why you are now hearing more and more people “caution” the TEA Party against non-compromise – they are actually demanding the TEA Party be willing to compromise with their extremist positions.
Report Post »When you go into negotiations with the intent of compromise, you POLARIZE people and get extremist results.
forestnomad
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:44pmSo, pretty much people who were Republicans, and now don’t want to be associated with the Dubya failures, are rebranding themselves as ‘Libertarians’? How… Predictable.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:46pmThis administration has forced many people to become libertarian-minded and suspicious of the government and that’s not a bad thing.
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:46pmRepresentative Michelle Bachmann and two other congressmen misappropriated Federal funds to pay for Taxed Enough Already rallies in the Nations Capitol, it was reported today.
Report Post »JohnGalt
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:49pmIt’s all about free will, the bible’s central doctrine is about free will and the ability for the individual to choose.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:50pmwe are ran by the Bankers of the world
Bilderberg has proven its kingmaker role time and time again not just in US politics but worldwide. Bill Clinton was a little-known Governor of Arkansas before he attended a Bilderberg meeting in 1991 and went on to become President a year later. Similarly, British Prime Minister Tony Blair attended Bilderberg before his election in 1997. According to Euro Weekly News, Maria Dolores De Cospedal’s attendance at Bilderberg 2011 in St. Moritz Switzerland also “augurs a victory in Spain’s next general election” for her Partido Popular party.
Obama himself was reportedly vetted by Bilderberg when he infamously disappeared to a secret location with Hillary Clinton in June 2008 in Northern Virginia, at precisely the same time and location the Bilderberg Group were convening in Chantilly. Bilderberg luminary James A. Johnson was also responsible for selecting Obama’s running mate Joe Biden, having also previously selected John Edwards as John Kerry’s right hand man in 2004 after Edwards had impressed Bilderberg elitists Henry Kissinger and David Rockefeller with a speech he gave at the globalist confab in Italy that year.
Report Post »http://www.infowars.com/bilderberg-approved-perry-set-to-become-presidential-frontrunner/
NickDeringer
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:50pmNo.
Christians will never vote to legalize drugs and prositution.
Report Post »conservatives will never vote to weaken the military.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:53pmSo all you so-called libertarians will say definitively that this is not a “Christian” nation, and that gay people should be allowed to get married, since it‘s no one’s business what they do in their own homes?
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:53pmUntil the number of losers in this country drops to America’s historical average of around 25%, then no, libertarianism is not taking root. I hate calling people names, but let’s fact it – we’re nearing 50% losers in this country. It’s gonna take a POTUS to give these slackers a swift kick in the ass and make sure they realize their future is up to them – not Big Government. And, the current cast of characters running for POTUS do not possess that necessary characteristic.
We’ll need at least another solid 8 years of Reagan-type vision and leadership to get the “losers” number back down to a more manageable level.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:54pmI think a lot of people have seen the intrusions of the government and Obama, along with his Democrat Congress snubbing the Constitution. That made a lot of people mad, because nobody is above the law. I am not sure if it is as much libertarian-minded as it is constitutional-minded.
Report Post »Constitutional conservative, here.
lovenfl3
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:56pmI think you just have to look at Ron Paul to see that there is a shift taking place. It’s hard to argue with maximizing personal freedoms. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWDHs-GnHh8
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:57pmRe the headline
Report Post »The Actual Taxpayers that are being stolen from are becoming more Libertarian, the Takers are screaming for more Taking. The Takers and their handlers at the DNC, are living off the hard work of a shrinking group of a Actual Taxpayers. Barry is the lead Thief and him and Holder, are feeding His People ,the Takers .
tower7femacamp
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:59pmMarriage should be a Church function,or personal agreement.
Report Post »The Govt should have no say in it and should not be involved in sanctifying any personal contracts between adults.
ask your self why does the govt sanction your marriage ?
What purpose does it serve except to control ?
Susan Harkins
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:59pm“Are Americans Becoming More Libertarian-Minded?”
For God’s Sake, I hope so. Otherwise, we are headed down the fast road to Fascism (<<Republican Party) or Marxism (<>) AMERICA, AND I WILL DIE WITH YOU!
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:07pm@ PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:53pm
So all you so-called libertarians will say definitively that this is not a “Christian” nation, and that gay people should be allowed to get married, since it‘s no one’s business what they do in their own homes?
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Hey PubicPencil, I think you already know the “so-called“ platform of ”so-called” Libertarians. What will foolish questions like that buy you? Do you think someone here is going to fall out from some ‘universal awareness’ that you are sadly attempting to convey, and run to the “so-called” National Socialist Democratic Progressive Party, or something?
Stop breathing so much — you are depriving other REAL neurons of oxygen.
Report Post »roguetea
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:08pm6-20-11
rogue, Trusting Every American
Of course, it always drops down to, ‘What do you mean?’ The pseudo-educated, including many, perhaps most, who sport an Ivy League past, will call foul every time someone tries to whip out a dictionary to nail down a concept. The over-educated hate getting nailed down on anything. They desire to tread endlessly in waters knowing no shores, change the only un-constant, constant, so they pretend. God of personal involvement is their first, and constant, sacrifice.
Dictionaries, ultimately, are in the hands of people, not a government or ivy tower. ‘What do you mean?’ is ultimate freedom, private and public. Personally, I have no qualms with being very conservative. Publicly, I relish libertarian ease. In part, I know libertarianism will fully grant me, my personal conservative quirks. In part too, I believe libertarianism is sanctioned by God. He will prove to be the ultimate Judge. Let us give Him just space. It could be said we have herd instinct, yet I applaud the rogues amongst us. The better way always starts out as a path of one.
Report Post »tea party, Own 2011, ROGUE ON
Beckofile
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:12pmGovernment is designed to do TOO MUCH. Liberty lovers are few and far between. We have a long way to go before we fix this complete mess. No more votes for the intellectual elites.
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:17pmforestnomad
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:44pm
So, pretty much people who were Republicans, and now don’t want to be associated with the Dubya failures, are rebranding themselves as ‘Libertarians’? How… Predictable.
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@ForestNomad
Yea, I bet that really kills ya doesnt it? Everyone is waking up and NOT running to the Repblican Facist Party or the Democratic Marxist Party.
As for me, being a long-time registered Libertarian, I welcome ALL of them and are laughing like hell. Can ya read the “TEA LEAVES”?
~ROFL!
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:20pmMinimize Government, Maximize freedom.
Economic Liberty and Civil Liberty are one in the same.
This “Christian” nation may have a majority of people who classify themselves as Christian. However, you are a fool to think Americans want a Theocratic state, Christian, Muslim, or any faith.
If people stray away from the idea of the Collective should take care of the individual, and embrace the long lost idea that the individual knows what is best for the individual, there is a hope for this dying Republic.
All of you “establishment” Republicans, remember, that the people you serve may say what you want them to say, and they may pick and choose what pieces of the constitution you like, and embrace them for public opinion, but they will ultimately never serve the people. They will serve their wallet.
I would embrace anyone to read Ron Paul’s book Liberty defined, to get a real idea in general what Libertarians think about many assorted topics. (and of course, read “The Road to Serfdom” by F.A. Hayek for God’s sake.) You may find yourself once claiming to be a “middle of the road conservative” to a born again Libertarian.
Yes I used the term born again, mad?
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:29pm@ – MONICNE
“Representative Michelle Bachmann and two other congressmen misappropriated Federal funds to pay for Taxed Enough Already rallies in the Nations Capitol, it was reported today.”
Can you please explain how this news report relates in any way to the thread topic?
And the same question goes out to all who consistantly post completely off-topic comments on threads….
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:30pmI hope not, the only thing worse than an oppressive government is no government at all.
Report Post »betterthantv
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:31pm@NickDeringer – Your post showcases your complete and utter ignorance on the subject of libertarianism. Has it ever occurred to you to research WHY Libertarians are for those things? I doubt it. Haters always point to these two examples but completely fail to understand why Libertarians are for these things. The “drug war” has been a complete and utter failure. And selling sex should have never been made illegal to begin with. Nevada has it figured out. Why can’t the rest of the country?
It is fine for one to not agree with libertarian ideas. But don’t just spout out crap about how “Christians” will never go for it. I am a Christian and support both legalizing drugs and prostitution. It’s called common sense! First we would need to eliminate the welfare state for it to work. But who can actually encourage less individual freedoms? Is it your view that only “Christians” can decide what freedoms we have and don’t have?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:42pmsWampy
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:30pm
I hope not, the only thing worse than an oppressive government is no government at all.
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Who is saying “no government at all”??? .. right now we have an out of control Administration that wants/ and is taking away LIBERTY daily. Less government would be a good thing! No one is calling for ancharcy .. except those who want a total takeover BY the Government!
TEA!
Report Post »SilenceDoesGood
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:50pmIt appears to be true. Although, I wouldn’t say that Americans are embracing libertarianism, so much as they are embracing individual freedoms. Liberty, as George Washington said, is a plant of rapid growth when it takes root. We are realizing that our Rights are natural, given to us by our creator. With those rights come responsibilities. You have the right to life, and the responsibility to protect it. You have the right to protect your life, so you should exercise your right to protect it with a gun. Our founders got it, and with progressivism, we stopped being responsible citizens and became slaves to the Government. Nothing you do comes without a license, permit, or tax. It’s time we take back out government and remind them that We the People have rights, and they the government have privileges. Ours cannot be taken, theirs can.
Report Post »Get out there and get active. Protect your rights, find the candidates that will make you MORE free. We can govern ourselves and it’s time we start doing so. Providence will always interject in favor of the Freedom and Liberty of man.
As of now, there is one candidate in the race who understands your rights and who they come from. It’s not Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich. Look into the candidates and find the honest, God-fearing man from Texas, Ron Paul. He will be the champion of your rights. There are minor inconveniences with a society with too many rights, but that is preferable to having none.
Susan Harkins
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:57pmNickDeringer
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:50pm
No.
Christians will never vote to legalize drugs and prositution.
conservatives will never vote to weaken the military.
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Hey Nick,,,dont be an idiot.
Report Post »The problem is not that “drugs and prostitution would be legalized”.
The problem started a long time ago with the govt stepping in and “making things illegal”. The problem started there, when the govt got involved in things that it was NEVER DESIGNED TO HANDLE. So stop making it look like Libertarians WANT drugs and prostitution just because Libertarians WANT to pry the govt out of our lives. I dont support either….I think the church and good family values can handle those issues — NOT GOVT.
smithclar3nc3
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 1:57pmMost American claim that they want to be free until they find out that that means there are no Government checks in the mail and they will have to practice what the rest of us all responsibility.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 2:08pmIf only Libertarianism was truly taking deep roots in America, but I don’t believe it. This website is a clear cut example of it. Many of you spout off how you want limited government, no more government intervention…. until it’s something that need government intervention for….
Gay marriage, prostitution, gambling, drug legalization, abortions….. all things a majority of Blaze users encourage government intervention on. You’re all only small government minded as long as it benefits you and your own personal beliefs. You don’t really care about true freedom, just your own freedoms. I never plan on being gay, selling my body for sex, gambling my life savings away, smoking crack or aborting any of my future children, but freedom is universal.
Freedom is NOT selective. You either believe in freedom and less government control, or you don’t. You cannot have it both ways! This is why the freedom movement will stall, or is stalling…. because you don’t truly believe in freedoms…. no, you really don’t.
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 2:08pmMidWestMom:
Based on your question, you are missing the whole point, so sorry for you. Dozens of us get it.
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Representative Michelle Bachmann and two other congressmen misappropriated Federal funds to pay for Taxed Enough Already rallies in the Nations Capitol, it was reported today.
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Real Libertarians do not Misappropriate Federal Funds
SilenceDoesGood
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 2:35pmSeparated Soldier,
Report Post »You are right on, but you are forgetting the biggest one. The military industrial complex. Get out of ALL foreign wars. Close down ALL military bases abroad
A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 3:06pmRon Paul 2012!
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 3:14pmI know so.
Tea Party Member over here. Registered Independent. Strict Constitutionalist. Conservative Libertarian.
Black.
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 3:27pm@ – MONICNE
You are the one missing the point. And posting opinions/topics not relevant to the thread.
The topic of this thread is “Are Americans Becoming More Libertarian-Minded?”
It’s not about the news article you referenced in your post. And not about “ Real Libertarians do not Misappropriate Federal Funds”
Your answer doesn’t address my question.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 3:33pm@SILENCEDOESGOOD A good topic to add as well, although I have seen more Blaze users calling to end the wars then were use to be, so I do see a progression in that realm.
A good portion of the Blaze believe in freedom, as long as those freedoms coincide with their religious beliefs. Those that differ to their beliefs do not deserve freedom!
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 3:34pm@ – MONICNE
Additionally, “Representative Michelle Bachmann and two other congressmen…..” aren’t mentioned anywhere in the thread article. So your post is irrelevant to the topic.
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 3:51pmNot really.
Report Post »freeus
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 4:42pmProbably yes, with respect to American becoming more “Liberatarian-minded”. This is most likely an over-reaction to Barry’s Presidency.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 5:23pmThey would also say we need to stop messing in other countries, particularly with an overbuilt war machine and invest our time and money in the US.
Report Post »DisillusionedDaily
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 6:26pmThe article hints that public opinion about gay marriage is changing. They need to take a poll about it only questioning rednecks. I wonder what their liberal base would say about the results of such a poll? Hmmmmmmm!
Report Post »JohnGalt
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 6:54pmIf most of the people do not want to legalize drugs, we still need to pass the law because a few people want it? How would that be free will then? if they want to legalized drugs go to a place that has legalized it.
Report Post »american1st
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 7:41pmi wish it was and hope it is taking hold…..
but the number of “Ron Paul cant win because they convinced me he cant win posts”, at the blaze, and the mob’s jumping on every RINO that has, or may declare themselves as a candidate, as being the “savor of republicanism” makes me really wonder if conservatives real have gotten past the idol worship of pretty speech makers and charismatic proponents, of the big government republican party….
are you really ready for a NO RINOS NO NEOCONS candidate or will you keep falling for the lesser of two evils vote for the “two party is really one party candidate”?????
Report Post »Force2bewreckin
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 8:24pmAnybody foxnews, CNN, cnbc, or any other main stream news organization props up as libertarian is a joke. A libertarian would a. Never allow an illegal war. B. Support a bailout. C. Support the most freedom killing bill in the history of the USA (patriot act). So Bachman, perry, and every other wanna be libertarian. Ron Paul and Gary Johnson are true libertarians because they walk the walk. For all of you republicans and democrats explain to me how bush and Obama are any different from each other? Banker bailouts? Check, signed patriot act? Check, unjustified wars? Check(Bush Iraq). There is no left or right. It is just a bunch of BS to keep u divided. Now that is spoken like a true libertarian.
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 10:20pmno
Report Post »Xyskalla
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 10:34amI sure am.
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 11:36amI hopes so , the government needs to go back to its original reason for being, THE PROTECTION OF OUR BORDERS.
Report Post »Fairlycece
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 6:15pm@PUBLIUSPENCILMAN
Yes.
Report Post »obama brotherhood.
Posted on June 22, 2011 at 7:15amron paul is an *******.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:11amHave always been interested in Libertarian views. Some I didn’t like, so I dismissed them entirely, but I have to tell you folks, I’m getting more & more interested in Ron Paul and like what he’s saying. When he ran in ‘08 there were so many kooks that seemed to follow him, my interest was lost immediately.
Report Post »But after 2 1/2 years with what we’ve had and the slate running (who mostly need a spine) I’m looking more seriously at Ron Paul. Finally mentioned it to my husband, and he admitted he’s feeling the same way. Funny, we never mentioned it to each other before this.