Are You Ready to Pay $50 for a 100-Watt Bulb?
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NEW YORK (AP) — Two leading makers of lighting products are showcasing LED bulbs that are bright enough to replace energy-guzzling 100-watt light bulbs set to disappear from stores in January.
Their demonstrations at the LightFair trade show in Philadelphia this week mean that brighter LED bulbs will likely go on sale next year, but after a government ban takes effect.
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The new bulbs will also be expensive — about $50 each — so the development may not prevent consumers from hoarding traditional bulbs.
The technology in traditional “incandescent” bulbs is more than a century old. Such bulbs waste most of the electricity that feeds them, turning it into heat. The 100-watt bulb, in particular, produces so much heat that it‘s used in Hasbro’s Easy-Bake Oven.
To encourage energy efficiency, Congress passed a law in 2007 mandating that bulbs producing 100 watts worth of light meet certain efficiency goals, starting in 2012. Conventional light bulbs don’t meet those goals, so the law will prohibit making or importing them. The same rule will start apply to remaining bulbs 40 watts and above in 2014. Since January, California has already banned stores from restocking 100-watt incandescent bulbs.
Creating good alternatives to the light bulb has been more difficult than expected, especially for the very bright 100-watt bulbs. Part of the problem is that these new bulbs have to fit into lamps and ceiling fixtures designed for older technology.
Compact fluorescents are the most obvious replacement, but they have drawbacks. They contain a small amount of toxic mercury vapor, which is released if they break or are improperly thrown away. They last longer than traditional bulbs but not as long as LEDs. Brighter models are bulky and may not fit in existing fixtures.
Another new lighting technology, organic light-emitting diodes, or OLEDs, has had problems reaching mass production. OLEDs are glowing sheets or tiles, rather than pinprick light sources, as LEDs are. They’re used as vibrant color screens for smartphones, particularly from Samsung Electronics Co.
But making OLEDs that are big, bright, cheap and long-lasting enough for use as light sources has proved difficult, in part because they use chemicals that are sensitive to oxygen and spoil unless sealed very carefully.
Acuity Brands Inc., an Atlanta-based maker of light fixtures, will be showing some OLED panels at the show. They will go on sale next year, but the price will likely make them technology showpieces rather than candidates for everyday lighting.
LEDs are efficient, durable and produced in great quantities, but they’re still expensive. An LED bulb can contain a dozen light-emitting diodes, or tiny semiconductor chips, which cost about $1 each.
The big problem with LEDs is that although they don’t produce as much heat as incandescent bulbs, the heat they do create shortens the lifespan and reduces the efficiency of the chips. Cramming a dozen chips together in a tight bulb-shaped package that fits in today’s lamps and sockets makes the heat problem worse. The brighter the bulb, the bigger the problem is.
The most powerful pear-shaped LED bulbs in stores today — the kind that fits existing lamps — produce light equivalent to a 60-watt bulb, though there are more powerful ones for directional or flood lighting.
Osram Sylvania, a unit of Germany’s Siemens AG, said it has overcome the heat problem and will be showing a pear-shaped 100-watt-equivalent LED bulb this week. It doesn’t have a firm launch date, but it usually shows products about a year before they hit store shelves.
Lighting Sciences Group Corp., a Satellite Beach, Fla.-based company that specializes in LED lighting, will be showing several 100-watt-equivalent prototypes, including some that solve the problem of cooling the LEDs by using microscopic devices that move air over the chips, like miniature fans.
Before the 100-watters, there will be 75-watters on the shelves this year. Osram Sylvania will be selling them at Lowe’s starting in July. Royal Philips Electronics NV, the world’s biggest lighting maker, will have them in stores late this year for $40 to $45.
However, 60-watt bulbs are the big prize, since they’re the most common. There are 425 million incandescent light bulbs in the 60-watt range in use in the U.S. today, said Zia Eftekhar, the head of Philips’ North American lighting division. The energy savings that could be realized by replacing them with 10-watt LED bulbs is staggering.
To stimulate LED development, the federal government has instituted a $10 million “L Prize” for an energy-efficient replacement for the 60-watt bulb. Philips is so far the only entrant in testing, and Eftekhar expects the company to win it soon. But Lighting Sciences Group plans its own entry, which it will demonstrate at the trade show.
Philips has been selling a 60-watt-equivalent bulb at Home Depot since December that’s quite similar to the one submitted to the contest. But it’s slightly dimmer, consumes 2 watts too much power and costs $40, whereas the L Prize target is $22. Sylvania sells a similar LED bulb at Lowe’s, also for $40.
However, LED prices are coming down quickly. The DoE expects a 60-watt equivalent LED bulb to cost $10 by 2015, putting them within striking range of the price of a compact fluorescent bulb.
Bob Karlicek, the director of the Smart Lighting Research Center at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, N.Y., thinks that price is achievable.
But, he said, “it’s not necessarily clear to people in the lighting industry that LED chips were ever meant to go into a bulb.”
What’s really needed, he said, is a new approach to lighting — new fixtures and lamps that spread out the LEDs, avoiding the heat problem.
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FishinMike
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 3:29amI don‘t know if this has been mentioned yet because I didn’t take the time to read all the comments, but knowing Sunstien and how much he loves regulating our lives, with the way there is toxic mercury in these bulbs, we’ll most likely have to register our(those of us who end up buying them) bulbs and bring them back to be able to buy a new one so they know that these bulbs aren’t being thrown away and polluting their precious environment.
Report Post »mrsmileyface
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:17amNOT only will I throw out the evil mercury filled CFL bulbs Ill make sure to break them inside my garbage can. Then its the waiting game to wait for the garbagemens union to complain about getting mercury poisioning. Then you all know who will step in and make official laws cutailing such action. Then its OH NO the LIGHTBULB POLICE!! Gimme a break.
Report Post »phil1765
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 3:27amCan you believe that our once great country has come to this? I could understand being told to turn the light of when you don’t need it, but where in the hell does our federal government think that it has the power to tell me which light bulb I can use and say that others will be illegal? I want to know which enumerated power this crap falls under. I am 46 years old and have watched us as a country erode over the last 20 years, of course we were put into hyperdrive 2 1/2 years ago by the Obozo and friends treehugger/marxist roadshow. This is getting ridiculous I am going to buy a gross of the old incandescent light bulbs and a couple of rifles and all the ammunition that I can find and they can kiss my A$$ if they think that they are going to come get any of them.
Report Post »Diane TX
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 4:00amStock up on the 100 Watt bulbs, first. The crazies are hellbent on getting rid of them before any other. Here’s a funny story. In some northern climate cities, the cities decided to install low-wattage traffic signals to save money. At the normal time of the year, snow and ice came to their cities. Immediately, there was a problem with the traffic signals. In the past, the traffic signals emitted enough heat to melt the snow, so that people could see what color the traffic signal was. The new traffic signals didn’t melt the snow, so no one knew whether to stop or go.
Here’s the “funny” or ridiculous part, depending on your point of view. The “solution” was to pay unionized city employees far more than the cost of using the heat-emitting type of bulbs, to hand-wipe away the snow and ice from the traffic signals. This is just a “Progressive” type of person’s dream scenario.
Report Post »GollygeeMrwilson
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:40pm@Diane Tx, So wiping the yellow caution light, that would be a part time job w/ no bennies, right? Or would it be overtime for the red/green wipers? Would it be cost efficient to use ladders or would that be too dangerous for OSHA? How about just spraying the lenses from the ground w/ antifreeze, or would that be against the EPA regs? Telephone lineman’s trucks with lifts would work, but union trained and certified operators would be necessary. And of course everyone would need govt. approved non-slip shoes that are insulated for working on electrified equipment and in below freezing environments. Screw it, leave the bulbs alone!
Report Post »Robert999
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 3:21amThe environmentalists are CRAZY. Don’t they know the Lord will return and Heaven on Earth will be established by the time global warming hits? All this environmental nonsense is just a waste of time and money.
Report Post »Pezman
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 3:17amThe thing we tend to forget about CFL’s. They too would cost a great deal of money IF, they were produced in the USA.
Report Post »You see we actually have labor/benefits and environmental standards which costs GE, Sylvania et all were unwilling to live up to. We may try to believe we are being ‘green,’ but it is at the expense of American jobs and poisoning other peoples children.
Captain Crunch
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 3:07amThy Word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path. Psalm 119:105.
Never burns out, uses no electricity, can’t be taxed, makes the darkness to hide, uplifts the soul, originates in the glory of God’s very presence, and will change the heart of the most terrible sinner.
Report Post »curmudgeon60
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 4:07amHa! Best one yet! and may I add–Cast ALL your cares upon Him for He cares for you. Thanks for bringing us back to what matters in a clever way!
Report Post »mrshinola
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:58pmI pray for God‘s intervention in this man’s presidency with a conviction so heavy on his heart and soul that the hope and change for the goodness of this nation will finally prevail. Amen!
mrshinola
Report Post »In_Maine
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:22pmVery nice!
Report Post »magismom
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 6:40pmThank you Captain Crunch..That is the TRUTH!!!
Report Post »ErinLindsey
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:56amI cant use CFL’s, I have vision problems, and the CFL’s cause me physical pain in my eyes and optic nerve. I bought an LED bulb recently, that’s supposed to be equivalent to a 60 watt incandescent bulb. It barely puts out any light. It’d be an ok night light. I actually have night lights that put out more useable light than my $15 LED bulb.
I wonder if the government realized there are people out here with low vision that cant use CFL’s. I can actually see the flickering of the bulb that others cant see as well. Must have something to do with the damage to my optic nerve.
Report Post »Diane TX
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 3:27amI, too, have vision problems, so I understand what you are going through. There are too many bruises on my arms and shoulders from walking into walls that I can’t see, because the lighting is too dim.
My son and his wife constantly turn off lights, when I visit them. I proclaim that I can’t see and turn them back on. I live alone, except for my two very small dogs, and this year “recycling” was imposed on me by my City. My recycling can is shoulder high to my height, which is ridiculous for a person who lives alone. The most that I can fill it, is about one-third, and that’s every two weeks.
Any who, my City doesn’t force me to recycle – but the joke is, that I’m still charged for it, whether or not I drag the huge can to the curb. I wonder. Did everyone in the World forget that recycling was suppose to save vast amounts of money? If recycling is such a good thing, why are we being charge a fee for complying? Shouldn’t all the Cities and Towns be making a bundle from all the recycled items? I beginning to think that it’s all a lie.
Report Post »garylee123
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 11:42amI think that’s what THE govt (not OUR govt) want. People blind and in the dark
Report Post »James Krog
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 7:40pmYes, you wore the sugar off that pill quickly. The equivalent claim on cfls and leds is a lie. A sylvania double life 100 watt light bulb puts out 1530 lumens of life. SInce I’m a tech fan and knew the theory that led science was more efficient I went to Lowes and checked out the new 100 watt “equivalent” bulb. The led puts out only 700 lumens less than half the incandescent bulb. It would take 2 $48.00 “100” led bulbs and a 40 watt at $18.00 for a total of $114,00 and two extra light fixtures for more money to get the equivalent light of a single 100 watt bulb you can buy for under a $1 .
Report Post »This dishonesty is present in nearly all green products. The cost is understated, the life span and benefits overstated. The environmentalist movement has never respected honesty or had integrity.
That is not in any way equivalent. The light output is the only measure that matters. Tis why its called a LIGHT BULB, til now that is. Now with leds thanks to the greenies we have dim bulbs.
lylejk
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:53amI will guarantee you that if they don’t get the cost down for these alternatives to incandescents to around 4 to 5 times the cost, that you will see a similar situation that happened with NTSC vs HD TVs. Yes, I predict an extension unless politicians really don’t want to keep their jobs. As a side note, the supposed Florescent lights that suppose to last 5 times longer the their incandescent equivalents is hogwash. Bought dad an florescent recently and it went pink (very dim pink light) within 30 days of purchase; full of crap. I do have another radical solution to the power generator problem; perfect natural gas fuel cell units and place them in every home and get off the grid. Natural gas may be a carbon based fuel, but it’s much less polluting then coal and with frac-ing, very cheap to produce. Fuel cells are quite efficient too and the excess heat can be utilized to feed hot water heaters. Still its much more expensive then just keeping the tried and true incandescent bulb. Tired of these progressives that think they know what is best for us and end up costing us way too much money (that goes for Republican progressives as well as Democratic progressives; equally evil imo). Let’s see; $1.50 vs $45; give me a freaking break. The electricity required to power said light bulb is probably $15/year, so it would take 3 to years to pay for the LED lightbulb. Will that light bulb last 4 years? Highly unlikely; subject to line power surges be lucky to la
Report Post »Diane TX
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:37amNot to worry. I’m sure that there will be light wall pods to use in the future. I’m a little upset that I bought two solid brass lamps 20 years ago, that only work with 60 watt incandescent bulbs. The lamps were very expensive two decades ago, but I figured that I could pass them on to my child and/or grandchildren. The lamps will be useless if there are no bulbs available for them.
I blame all this on the environmental/global warming/climate change freaks. Everything costs more since they put all their regulations in place. We have emission inspections on all our vehicles. More expensive gas – designed for the region it’s used in.
Has all this governmental control improved our global climate in any way? The answer is NO! We are having once in a hundred years flooding, hurricanes, tsunamis, tornadoes, and earthquakes. One would think that since all the governmental entities have regulated our environments for at least the last three decades, that everything would be better – yet it is worse, since their non-effective meddling. Most of us are paying fees for our municipalities to collect our recyclables. Why are we paying fees, when the original premise was that money would be saved by recycling? Shouldn‘t our towns and cities be paying it’s citizens for valuable recyclable items?
What a farce all this Progressive nonsense is.
Report Post »abseas
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 11:47am“This Progressive Nonesense” exists for one reason and one reason only . . . Control of the masses!
Report Post »GadsdenPatriot
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:32amThese communist traitors will do anything to promote their communist utopia delusions. The sickest part is they are trying to hurt our wallets so we cry out to them when we can no longer afford it which will empower them to carry out total government control and ownership, and the end of freedom and liberty. Small government is the only solution. The salvation of everyone’s freedom depends upon it. It’s time to call liberal commies what they are: brain damaged traitors. Discredit them on every level and disregard them. To think we can remain free while simultaneously letting those who wish to dismantle our free nation have total control will be our destruction.
Report Post »axel@25
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:16amthings we used to have 30 years ago, but were taken away for “your own good” by politicians.
showers that worked
toilets that flushed
the ability to smoke tobacco products wherever we wanted to
inexpensive 2 stoke outboards
inexpemsive 2 stroke lawnmowers with throttles
gasoline that gave 10% better fuel ecomony than methonal blends
dishwasher deterget that cleaned dishes
laundry detergents that got clothes clean
weed killers that killed weeds
bug killers that killed bugs
brake shoes that didn’t require new rotors/drums everytime they needed replacement
bottom paint for boats that worked
oil based enamels
Light bulbs that were bright as soon as they were turned on
Light bulbs that provided a warm “human” light
disposable lighters that worked
tax laws that were understandable
the ability to buy a gun, any gun, whenever you wanted to and not tell the government
There’s probably a lot more….and don‘t get me started on the words we can’t say like “stewardess”
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:34amYou fort a couple…Burning your garbage ..And burning your garbage for electricity …
Report Post »Nigel2
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:35amthe ability to buy a gun, any gun, whenever you wanted to and not tell the government.
It’s called a gunshow.
Report Post »chris3
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 7:32pmyou forgot good cheap a/c r-22 is being phazed out,(another myth,although I think this one actualy started when it was global cooling scare) 5 y or so ago was 30$ a can now it’s 200$ and in short supply,and no more is allowed to be produced, so sorry about all those “old” units that require r22.P.S. the wattage on both the cpf and led light bulbs is a lie! the transformer is not factered in the name plate rating you can get a appliance wattage tester at lowes and such and test a lamp for your self the lies we are being force fed is astounding!
Report Post »skiziks20453
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:13amI am buying several cases of incandescent bulbs. The market for $10 indies will be good…lol
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:00amGee $50.00 bucks a bulb…Guess the two pollacks to screw them in won’t be able to drop them any more.
Report Post »OneRepublic4us
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:13amHey, I know a couple of polish immigrants. They came here to escape communism/socialism. They are some of the most conservative people I know. They aren’t like the illegals that want a hand outs.
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:27amWell at 50 bucks a shot I would have to hire the pollacks …Wouldn’t put something that expensive in the hands of a new Obama stranger like a Mexican…In the mean time ….lighten up ..pun pun ..Its a joke …My wife’s half a pollack …well at least the half am always yelling at …
Report Post »davejag
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:27amJust remember that those two Pollacks are unionized now and earn $50/hr for screwing in bulbs. Just like their bosses, they don’t care who or what they screw! (BTW, I AM a proud Pollack, so spare me the hate-speech crapola)
Report Post »Stopit
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 8:05pmAs half Polock, I enjoy a good Polock joke!
Report Post »dcwu
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:59amMaybe politicians give off light if you plug them into the wall.
Report Post »SLR Cameras
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:15amworth a shot.
Report Post »dcwu
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:55amMaybe seeing eye dogs are cheaper.
Report Post »dizzyinthedark
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:01amI love this idea! LOL!
This will solve many of the problems there are with too many animals in shelters and not enough people adopting them. Dogs of war, dogs for cancer, dogs for drugs, how about dogs in replacement for pat downs and scanners! Big dogs keep the extremist muslims away, help with depressed people, the elderly who are alone, can take the place of expensive alarm systems, bring on the dogs I say!
Report Post »Karzak
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:50amI wonder if my low flush toilet could get one of these $50 bulbs down.
Report Post »DangerClose
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:48amAnd I wonder what they are gonna do, when I start burning plastic and anything else I can think of as an alternative source of light. Believe me I will burn tires before i pay $50 for a light bulb.
Report Post »axel@25
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:48amI wonder what I will be able to sell a “real” 100 watt bulb for in 5 years?..I think I’ll buy 1000- 100 watt bulbs for 50 cents each and store them for 5 years and then sell them for $10 each.
Report Post »Let’s see… 1000 x $10= $10,000 – $500 cost= $9500 profit … If Obama gets a second term I might be able to fill my gas tank in 2016!! (by then I’ll need to get permits to purchase fuel and approval to travel from the Government of course)
OneRepublic4us
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:08amHeck by then the only things we’ll still own is our guns and our bibles. (at least if you haven’t been turned in by your neighbors)
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:21amThen they will make us use the mandatory new government approved socket which no doubt will reverse the threads. Or they will know who is using the old bulbs with the smart grid. Wait I can see it now by 2016 we will have the government agency of energy efficiency. They will have ten’s of thousands of “ Government desk squatters” (another of my copyrighted catch phrases).Spend billions in consumer energy education , or should I say energy reeducation . Better yet you can take classes at your near by community college on “energy redistribution” new catch phrase……Anyone starting to take notice that the higher fuel are now putting the breaks on the economy…Was at a Lowes around 5pm Pacific ..Think there were 2 of us in the place ..O… Obama going to get his wish .Of what a fuel starved America looks like…Hope he enjoys leaving one giant utopia looking Detroit …. Broken busted everything …That old catch phrase ..Well there goes the neighborhood..is beginning to have new meaning…
Report Post »crackerone
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 7:56amYou will need some extra cash for your $700 monthly energy bill.
Report Post »Grandmadar
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 7:57amHabakkuk 3:17-19 “Though the Fig Tree does not bud and there are no grapes on the vines, though the olive crop fails and the fields produce no food, though there are no sheep in the pen and no cattle in the stalls, yet I will rejoice in the Lord, I will be joyful in God my Savior.”
Report Post »In_Maine
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:07pmI still don’t understand how guns and the bible fit together. Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against guns, but why do people always assume one goes with the other?
Report Post »Stopit
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 7:59pmIf you’re going to be technical, its swords and the bible. Luke 22:35-38
Report Post »Igno Ramus
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 11:23amIN-MAINE— My pistolo is named “Excalibre’. The Bible speaks of swords because they were the weapon of choice for self defense at the time the Bible was compiled. If firearms had been around, I’m sure that the Bible would have mentioned them instead. Swords were also the main battle weapons for several thousand years. Yes, spears could be thrown and arrows could be loosed; but the sword stayed with the soldier of foot. Today, the rifle, the shotgun, or the pistol is the prefered weapon. Most travelers in biblical times carried arms unless they were prevented by government. Kings and other rulers have been disarming their subjects for ages. This allows them to more easily control their empire. Today it’s our government and big business and the wealthy who want us to be unarmed and therefore dependant upon their largess and protection. Our founders were afraid of this, so they adopted the second amendment to our constitution to prevent that possibility. We have allowed ourselves to be run over by a bunch of turds over the last 70 or 80 years. $50 lightbulbs with $500 a month electric bills is coming folks. Ben Dover
Report Post »Eyeball
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:46amIt’s typical of Congress to force something on Americans without consideration of the cost. Again the technology is not ready to be implemented.
Report Post »OneRepublic4us
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:29amIt‘s not really the technology that isn’t ready to be implemented. It’s the understanding of capitalism.
Report Post »You know, my HOA put the squirrelly bulbs up in the parking area, and I thought that was a good use.
The new bulbs cause migraines and aren’t very good for reading, my old incandescent 3 way bulbs are so much better for that. I do realize that the government is hostile to the “book readers”. I think we’re pretty hostile towards the government too. We read, we know what the constitution says. That alone put us in their sites.
DangerClose
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:43am$50 light bulb, scary. Did you know, that as humans, made in God’s image, we are the scourge of the planet? Funny how a century ago, a millenium ago, an age ago, we didn’t think about that. Somehow, today, because we are top of the food chain we must apologize for being there. Liberals, and GW apologists will have you believe that we are at fault for an ever changing planet. To paraphrase Einstien, “Liberalism is an infantile disease, it is the measles of mankind.”
Report Post »LIVINGTHEDREAM
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:38amWhat’s next? Having to buy health insurance.
Report Post »Talmid of Yeshua
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:42amOr maybe illegal search and seizure in airports, train stations, and gasp… our own homes. One judge already ruled the other day that the police can search your home without a warrant.
Report Post »OneRepublic4us
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:03amPerish the thought, aren’t we (Americans) innocent until proven guilty?
Report Post »retriever
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:35amSometime in the past, our brilliant policy makers decided that, with nothing else to do, they would make the need for a new lighting system. After they wanted to show everyone that they could make life easier for all of us. But someone forgot to think about the light fixtures and the need to change them for updated ones. Anyhow, that didn’t matter. President Bush thought that it was a good idea, and in fact such a good idea that he signed into law the mandatory changeover to the new system. But that is not his problem now. It is everyone elses problem. But time is running out. I wonder how it will work out. At least we have matches and candles to light the way into the future of the new world order.
Report Post »OneRepublic4us
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:00amYou funny RETRIEVER….s’bushs falt HEY, LET’S IMAGINE O PUT THE EXECUTIVE TO GOOD USE?
Report Post »Let‘s pretend he’s smart enough! Hard to do, I know!!!
independentvoteril
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 8:40amAs I have stated before The BUSH’S are PROGRESSIVES.. notice the things he THOUGHT were good idea’s from taking DNA (mandatory) from our NEWBORN’S without parents permission TO the light bulbs.. THAN tell me how he believed in the FREEDOM of AMERICAN’S..
Report Post »Brock
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:35amIt is so weird that the Federal Government would remove from the market a series of bulbs that cost a few cents, and replace them with bulbs that costs more than a few dollars more. Where is the choice in that? Freedom people, that is what this country was built upon and that basic principle is rapidly being eroded from every side. Mothers against drunk driving started with a plea to not drink and drive, later that evolved into laws that permitted the Government to strip away your freedom from unreasonable search. But the cause was a good one, right? Isn’t it always? Where do your draw the line? I say we draw it by voting out all of those in power who would continue to push for more restrictions on our Freedom, and until then, we make sure that Congress follows the Constitution and stops making laws to which the lawmakers are exempt. In his books (on Amazon) Wil Adams talks about this and so much more. Or you can read the blog on unitedfederation.blogspot.com. Keep America and American Free!
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:05amI’d hate to break one of those 50 dollar bulbs
Report Post »IM-UR-HUCKLEBERRY
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 4:37amI want to know where the whiny environmentalists are on this light bulb thing. Do they not realize that the mercury in them is TOXIC and you have to remove EVERYONE from the room if you should happen to break a bulb in your house? Have they even READ the directions for disposal of these bulbs? HELLO?
Does anyone remember the show Glenn did waay back in his first year where he had Stu outside the studio in a hazmat suit breaking a mercury (squiggle) light bulb and then read through all the directions on how to clean it up and dispose of it printed from the Fed Govts web site? It was INSANE to say the least.
It just blows my mind that the environmentalists aren’t trying to stop this one.
Report Post »smokie
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 5:56amI am so burnt out on this energy efficency gig, I just don’t care any more, and the more they push, the less of us will care. I don’t give a damn about Mother Earth, anymore. She can suck it for all I care.
Report Post »We’ll find a way around it. We have to.
During Hurricane Ike, it took 2 weeks to get our electricity back on, we spent the nighttime wearing headlamps.
338lapua
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:26amDue to the mercury content, I am dabbling with led bulbs. I don’t want to be FORCED to use these things….a couple of bulbs is a MAJOR expense. I do like the light, the color choices and there are decent bulbs in the 10-25 dollar range. That being said…..get out of my house, don’t mandate what choices I make. I have antique lights that can only use an incandescent bulb….should I just throw these awesome pieces of history away? This is such crap.
Report Post »Talmid of Yeshua
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:34amSo much for the free market and free enterprise. We’ll be buying $50 bulbs or have no light… then Big Brother government will step in, create a federal light bulb welfare program for those leeches and looters in society to get free taxpayer funded bulbs. Mark my words, I guarantee this will happen.
Gotta love socialism.
It’s time for an armed revolution. I’m tired of watching my country fall to illegal aliens, liberals, and Muslims, and welfare leeches.
Report Post »not-a-lib
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:50amHow much more can we take?!?
The Bible is crear, however, The Lord will return and establish His perfect Kingdom.
Report Post »OneRepublic4us
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:52amI think it‘s getting to the point I’m going to start making candles and make darn sure I have lanterns and the fuel for them.
Report Post »Nobamazone
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 5:16amThey already did. They gave away bags of 10 bulbs to low income people last year. Also in the bag, flyer’s telling them how much better these bulbs are on the environment and how much money they will save on their electricity. Most of the families I work with (and gave the bags too, they were sent to us at no cost) did not like them because they do not give off the same light and some told me they added extra lamps (double the lights…. now are they still saving on electricity???). and of course, no one is sure how to “legally” get rid of them if they break or wear out. When they contacted us this year to see if we want another shipment we said “No Thank You”. No need to to wait for a new government give-away, they are way ahead of you! UGGGGGGGGG
Report Post »Republichic
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:40pmI’m going to leave the revolution to God, but in the meantime, I’m going to stand up and fight for my rights. All of this crap is based on a lie. Now, they are going to continue trying to indoctrinate our kids in school with baseless studies on environmental bull. I am so sick and tired of Democrats, their lies, their spin and their march behind Obama like cows to slaughter. I know there are a few good people left in Congress, but I have lost faith in most of them for their unrelenting urge to control us. These Congress cats are supposed to be smart; yet, they are as dumb as any thing I have ever seen. They are, however, calculated and cunning. Snakes in the grass. I fully believe 90% of them and Obama should be brought up on criminal charges and impeached.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on May 19, 2011 at 4:57pmYou don’t have to buy the $50 bulbs. You can just buy the $4 fluorescents. I was resistant at first, but you know what? You can’t tell the difference and they really do save enough electricity to pay for themselves.
Report Post »not-a-lib
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:26amThank you, Congress. Sheesh.. when will they mind their own business? Mandating we buy certian products?
This isn’t the America the Founders founded…
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:41amBIG Amen to that!
Report Post »Insipid
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 8:57amI will 3rd that one. I could not have said it better myself. I bet the founders are rolling in their graves.
Report Post »sbleve
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:04amCattle prod – of taser voltage. President 44 has used the high voltage prod. The instigator with partnership (congress)the ‘experts say (elite ruling class) this CFL is a must do – life or death. President 43 signed the bill that included the CFL mandate.
The House Speaker is of the old Tory-1700 mentality. A birth right privilege, heir presumptive, given by seniority= wisdom.
Report Post »moiriane
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:36amtime to stock up on bulbs and candles
Report Post »Oldbutnotsenile
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:06amI can remember as a child living in an unpopulated area that did not have electricity. I remember going to the hardware store with my uncle to buy kerosene to burn in our lamps. Coal burnt in stove for cooking and heat. Looks like a lot of us might be back in that same boat again.
Report Post »Oil_Robb
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:25amBig Brother at it again….is there anything that we are able to choose for ourselves?…Ill have salt on my bulbs please.
Report Post »SavingtheRepublic.com
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:55amNo b/c we are all stupid and these ppl who have never held a real job and had to answer to anyone know better.
You having fun Amerika? You like this? Your financial system, healthcare taken over. Cant have trans fats, cant say the pledge of allegiance b/c might offend someone, 93yr old grandmother with steel screws in her elbow has to be patted down or a babies diaper has to be searched before they get on a plane, $14+ trillion in debt and the spending continues. What more do you want Big Brother to do for you? Or should I say do to you?
You are losing your country at an exponential rate, with NEW BLOOD elected into office. Is it getting clear for you yet that they are all the same repub/dems nothing but 2 faces of the progressive beast. Im just curious when will it be enough?
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:57amI’ll light a candle first!…We Americans are gonna have to toughen up it seems. Were in for a bumpy ride. Isn‘t this one of Obama’s bright ideas?
Report Post »FlatFoot
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:02amOh YAY! From paying $2 – $3 per long lasting bulb to light the rooms in my home to paying $50 per bulb. And in about 4-years, if I’m lucky, they’ll be only $10 a bulb. Maybe. I haven’t had to change a single incandescent light bulb in any room of my home since I moved into my house 5-years ago.
I am so greatly honored and privileged to live in a country where I can be bent over and taken advantage of by fatcat politicians at every turn. From utilities ‘deregulation’ resulting in record high utility rates, to record high gasoline prices, to astronomical grocery costs, to fifty dollars per light bulb! And all of this at a time when anyone who actually works for a living is getting pay raises that are nowhere even close to COLA. Oh joy! Oh rapture!
Thank you United Nanny-States of America!
Report Post »Florida_Freedom_Fighter
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:25amThe Dollar Tree has 4 packs 100watt old school bulbs for a buck ………….fyi
Report Post »ZeitgeistBuster
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:25amNO need for guberment ta stick it’s big fat nose in this one.
I want to have a choice, not follow a mandate. The market would bring LED’s along without us being forced to choose. I actually have been screaming at the hypocrisy of the “Green” promoters pimping the Mercury Toxic crap that GE and Wal-Mart started pushing at us.
I want to try out the LED lights. Just don’t tell me I have to or else. That is when I remind you I have a right to have a firearm.
Put the things on the shelf. I will try one… and If I like it, and if 7watts saves me enough money over 60 watts, then I will buy another one, and who knows, maybe with some volume, production costs can come down and manufacturers might have some margin to play with and compete for business.
But let the market decide. I don’t want to be forced to buy something expensive that turns out to be no damned good to boot.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:34amI bought one of those bulbs last year, thinking I would slowly replace every bulb. I took the bulb from my lamp to LOWES and made sure I got the right base size. I came home. I screwed it in…only…it would not screw in. I took it back. The man at Lowes said…that is happening a lot.
Report Post »I believe everything OBAMA does is to drain our spirit. Rather than let the SOB do that, I’m going to stock up…on candles. (And 60W reg.bulbs) Maybe we’ll have a PATRIOT in the WH before my 60W will run out. EVERYDAY…something else. ONLY 8% of all the people around that dope have ever had jobs. Why don’t we give them Delaware and let them go have their own Progressive Country? That’s how few of them there really are… we can float the MSM on barges off shore…and start living like AMERICANS again.
Showtime
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:38amI don’t use 100 watt bulbs. I don’t even use 60 watt bulbs. It appears that by 2014, I’ll be using kerosene lamps. I have more of them than I do lamps anyway.
All this “global warming” BS is making me really angry at Progressive Democrats. Maybe, after the Obots have to buy a few of these ridiculous bulbs, they will think twice before they pull the D lever again! Obama‘s Stash isn’t going to give them high-dollar light bulbs. That is too much like putting the money back into the private sector.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:40amI guess come next year the trade of the old light bulbs will most likely be made a new criminal offense against the natural world, or have owners of them accused of eco-terrorism and some such nonsense.
Note, sarcasm above is intentional.
The ever loving government, in this case going back to the Bush admin, needs to stay out of our lives as much as possible.
Report Post »thebarbarian
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 3:04amthere it is again! every time i hear it it sets me off! people look up un agenda 21. it’s code talk is sustainable development. this is cass sunstien’s *******-material! fight this at every stage or the un/marxist/openly communist front/afront ot society will walk into America and take her over without firing a shot. they are trying to round up and manipulate the herd. it’s easir to cull the herd when put into pens.
Report Post »thebarbarian
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 3:15amhere’s a question for you pinheaded libs. do any of you know where thr materials for those bulbs and so called smart cars comes from?
Report Post »instead of using our oun resources, the libs have shut down Fe,C,Cu,Sn,and other metal production in America. HAS ANYONE TAKEN NOTICE TO WHY THE rathke brothers ARE IN THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES PARTICULARLY AROUND THE TROPICS! that’s right they are helping a specific few(g.e. comes to mind) mine in those protected areas displacing the indigenous people there.
while raising the carbon footprint. you have to remove the rainforrest before you mine. then get in,mine,get out, produce the product, then ship. instead of mining and producing is the same place. HOW’S THAT FOR ENVRONMENT FRIENDLY! Even npr radio has done bits on this while spinning it as a good thing because the un and ovmit are on the same page as soros.WTF!
when is this going to get people to stand?!
Dustyluv
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 4:16amBeyond stupid. Makes me want to beat the crap out of an enviromentalist. Ahhhhh, no I will just mow my lawn with a smoking lawn mower, stock up on good 100 watt bulbs and refuse to recycle anything…. I win.
Report Post »101
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 4:50amWill they number them so you can count the stupid.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 4:57amanother interesting note
because normal lightbulbs give off lots of heat, people are now realizing their heating bills are actually higher because the new bulbs dont give off heat
surprisingly a few 100 watt bulbs really help heat your house while you have the light on, so now, instead of cheaply adding heat to your house, you have to run your heat longer which actually uses more energy than the dam bulbs did
typical…………..progressives never think through an issue completely
Report Post »tommee
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 5:14amAs with all new technology, prices will come down. Remember the initial cost of large flat screen TVs?… now they’re giving them away!
Don’t bust you bubble over progress. Nothing new is ever cheap.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 5:55amReason or force. Those are the only two ways to persuade. The firearm removes the latter from the equation.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 5:57amThe problem with LEDs is that when you start trying to achieve the kind of power output that you get from an incandescent, the efficiency drops way off. In pro lighting (concert, theater), the LEDs they use in professional lighting instruments aren’t much more efficient than incandescent lamps, because they pull so much current that they have to dissipate a lot of heat energy.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 5:59am“There are 425 million incandescent light bulbs in the 60-watt range in use in the U.S. today, said Zia Eftekhar, the head of Philips’ North American lighting division. The energy savings that could be realized by replacing them with 10-watt LED bulbs is staggering.”
Yeah, and the revenue generated for you greedy ass could be staggering, too. Same goes for GE.
This is nothing more than government-sponsored green cronyism.
Report Post »watchmany2k
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 6:29amInterestingly enough The bulbs exist ALREADY I have been selling similar from my website for around 2 months now. They consume 4.4 watts and if you use it 8 hours a day at ten cents a kilowatt hour it will cost $1.27 a YEAR to run !
A LED bulb will last 35,000 hours +
and they come in colors as well as kelvin ratings IE warm white and cool white.
It is SAD that the Government and media is picking winners and losers by touting one particular company.
IF you are interested I have a LOT about energy conservation, alternatives AND LED on my site aside from hand picked quality led “bulbs” with the LOWEST price on the internet.
http://www.watchman2012.com
I know this is blatant, but I avoid spamming the address in my comments to only articles that ARE energy related. If I could afford it i’d buy an ad here, but the website started in November.
Report Post »I am a little guy… attempting E4
markamerica
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 7:31amIt will be funny and fitting if the next American revolution started over a simple thing like lightbulbs. I think the Tea Party should have adopted the Lightbulb instead. Compact flourescents give me headaches and the things drive my dogs crazy. (I’m a migraine sufferer, and light of certain wavelengths triggers them.) Flourescents are worse than water-boarding for me. Apparently, they make a high-pitched sound I cannot hear, but my dogs can. My dogs literally go nuts. So apparently, they’re torture for my dogs, too. Now comes along this better idea of LED bulbs, but they are hugely expensive and I am worried that because we live literally at the end of the power lines, and because we pop two or three traditional lightbulbs per week, that I’d just be buying something that would get burnt out way too fast for its expense. I am therefore stocking up on standard bulbs, in number sufficient to last the rest of my natural-born days. I am currently 45yo. Do the math. At our current rate of usage, if I expect to live to be 75, I’m going to need to have 3000+ of the damn things in storage. I could say: “I hate big government.” That wouldn’t begin to cover it…
Mark
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 7:46am@GLM
Report Post »Are you insane?
Lighting a candle! Do you realize how much CO2 that creates?
Meyvn
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 7:50amI’ll NEVER pay that much for a trivial light bulb. These people are dreaming. I will create my own light sources w/o their assistance.
Report Post »dizzyinthedark
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 7:52amThis doesn‘t bode well for someone with my ’issues’ of needing light in order to be able to stand upright in the dark! Uh oh! It’s gonna cost me! Better stock up on candles or at least start buying up all parafin wax I can find!!!
Report Post »backusjenn
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 7:57amAnd my husband thinks I’m nuts for stocking up on incandescent light bulbs. I have a stockpile of 40, 60,75, and 3-way bulbs to last me a good 4 years. I buy them when they’re on sale, and I will continue to buy them until they’re “illegal”.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 8:44am@PSYCHOSIS
Report Post »“progressives never think through an issue completely” changed to
“progressives never think, they just ‘feel’”
Insipid
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 8:55amHA, I just bet the greenie weenies would love my 2 1000 watt security lamps I have outside on my property. Between the lights and my hydricarbon powered vehicle, I know I am doing my part to live as a free American !.
Report Post »Guerrino_P
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 8:56amDo Americans cry about everything?
Report Post »s-n-t
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:05am@TOMMEE. Good analogy to HD televisions, only you forgot to mention there was no government mandate/ban, no tax subsidies to manufacturers, open competition among manufacturers, a real marketplace demand, an actual benefit in terms of product quality, and marketplace incentives to compete on price to heighten sales and profits. Other than that, you were spot on.
Report Post »markamerica
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:25am@S-N-T
“Good analogy to HD televisions, only you forgot to mention there was no government mandate/ban”
No, but the government mandated a broadcast format change that has left me without local television. If it doesn’t come across the satellite, I don’t see it.
“…no tax subsidies to manufacturers,”
Subsidized converter boxes(which I don’t own)
“open competition among manufacturers,”
Manufacturers agreed to make the converter boxes in order to ease the transition by government fiat.
“a real marketplace demand”
There was nothing wrong with my TV. It was a 2yo set. Now, to watch OTA stations, I need some additional box, which did what to the resale value of my TV?
“an actual benefit in terms of product quality, and marketplace incentives to compete on price to heighten sales and profits.”
I don’t see any significant improvement. I don‘t see it because I don’t have HD. None of my TVs are equipped for it. I’ve seen them at Walmart. I see no substantial difference in quality of picture. Seated 12-15 ft from my television, during the roughly 5-7 hours per month I view it, it makes exactly zero difference in my life, except that my overall choices are reduced and the government can now more easily control the airwaves. Oh, and it reduces the value of my TVs.
“Other than that, you were spot on”
Yep.
Mark
Report Post »David286 - FL
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:33amWe are able to choose whether to fight for our liberty or role over and take it! Time to remove the tyrants! III%
Report Post »Bullcop34
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:12am@Mark
You, sir, ARE spot on! Excellent point and you beat me to it. Obviously, some people just don’t pay that much attention.
Report Post »Nevada Tumbleweed
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:15amThe only thing left that we’ll be able to choose is whether or not to kill an unborn fetus.
Report Post »GulfPeg
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:29amYes, we can still choose how many pieces of toilet paper we use, thank goodness! But, it won’t be long before they even try to control that!
Report Post »jackrorabbit
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:36amStock up now. I have about 30 years worth now. By then there will be something new, an incandescent light bulb.
Report Post »Bloody Sam
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:57amBig Brother can stuff it.
Report Post »I bought 5 cases each of 60, 75 and 100 watt bulbs months ago. I’m all set until they change house current to something other than 120v/60Hz. Or the end of my lifetime…whichever comes first.
VegasGuy
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:58amI bought an exterior light fixture that came with three LED bulbs. It only turns on at night and was so dim I could barely see the face of the person standing outside my door. One of the bulbs failed after about 1-1/2 years. IMO, LED bulbs cost too much, do not last any longer and do not give off enough light. I would rather pay a few cents more per month for a regular incandescent bulb and be able to SEE who is outside my door. My safety is worth more to me than the savings, even if the LED’s used ZERO electricity!
Report Post »Vote No-Bama 2012
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 11:32am“Don’t you know we need a revolution”
Report Post »Gabbie
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 11:35amDo not give the government any more ideas, next they will ban salt from the grocery stores LOL.
Report Post »TEIN
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 12:58pmMore condidtioning to accept less…get use to reading by candle light…Pres. O change is to implement the living standard of 1875…train,windmills, candles…..
Report Post »Clive
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:04pmThis story is bogus. Guaranteed that they aren’t $50 when they come out. Or $20. Or even $10.
Report Post »They will be like $3, and this will be seen as yet another stupid scare piece.
Wisconsinlady
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:27pmActually, they won’t let you use that much sa to put on your bulbs either. And no hydrogenized oil either.
Report Post »Dio fan
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 1:51pmAt the rate of inflation, a standard incandescent bulb will likely cost $50 by January.
Report Post »That aside I have tried LED bulbs from Sam’s Club in two chandeliers (not to be green), but because we leave these lights on a lot, and thought I’d save a few bucks on the power bill. These bulbs last about a month, then quit working. They are warrantied for two years so I took them back several times. The Sam’s Club in my area closed, so I threw these in the garbage as they have again burned out. Back to normal proven to last bulbs which give no trouble.
Once regulation begins there is nowhere for it to go but to take over every aspect and eventually every thought in our lives, and we are smack in the middle of it. This is no different than the Patriot Act, Clunker bill, TSA airport fondlings, Imminent domain, IRS, etc., but rather just another page in the book we must live by. Freedom is an illusion.
Ron Paul 2012!
Anne
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 2:09pmThe salt Nazi says No Salt for you!! Americans not able to have salt.
Report Post »BlueStrat
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 3:38pmI’ve got a better idea.
I say we burn Progressives instead of electricity or gasoline, starting with the current crop of Progressives & RINOs in our government. The staggering amount of pork-fat rendered from just one house of Congress or the EPA could be easily & cheaply refined into enough energy to power this nation for decades!
“Put a RINO in your tank!”
This LED lightbulb idiocy might have one positive side effect. Once the ban is in place and “contraband” incandescent bulbs are coming across the Mexico border, the Progressives might actually start securing the border.
If illegal immigration/smuggling at the Mexican border is interfering with a Cass Sunstein plot like this LED/CFL bulb stupidity, they’ll have anti-personnel landmines and automated gun turrets on the border before you can say “mass graves”.
Report Post »Sad4theUS
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 4:20pmWhat’s really sad is that here we are in a tanking economy and they want to charge us $50 for a light bulb? Why aren’t they producing things that are affordable?? I’m telling you, the greedy “Green” gluttons are laughing all the way to the bank!
Report Post »UPSETVET
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 5:49pmSoon the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) will have to change it’s handle to the Light Blub Enforcement Agency (LBEA). Drug Cartels are probably already looking into the potencial market for “illegal light blub”trafficking and the possible huge profits. With the cost of one 100 watt light blub selling for around $50.00, there will be greater profits to be made than with illegal drugs.
Report Post »With illegal drugs only a small percentage of the US population are “users”, but EVERYBODY uses light blubs. Ha. Before long will be seeing cars pulled over and police officers searching autos and their ocupants for illegal “light blubs.” Our jails and prisons will soon be packed with dangerous illegal light blub dealers and users. Our court system is going to be working 24/7 and still won’t be able to keep up with the work load. Yea, this new light blub law is going to be fabulous for companies like General Electric. They’ll have to open new plants in Bangladese and Mongolia to keep up with the demand. Thanks Obama, you’re really helping the recovery of the American economy !
rachany
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 7:14pmRrrright… Like, to save 10 dollars in my light bill I’ll buy a 50 dollars bulb….mmmkayy, I don’t think so..!
Report Post »watchmany2k
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 7:45pmI agree that it should not be mandated.
the task is what should dictate the type of bulb one employs.
I also agree that some stores are carrying short-lived JUNK leds.
that is because they are
1) bandits,
2) at least tripling the cost even considering the import and shipping costs.
So they go with a cheapo Manufacturer to increase their margin.
TO the folks who think it’s only pennies more a month on the bill consider this:
1) 10% of you bill at most is lighting, so it is minimal considering.
2) LEDs make sense for lighting that is hard to reach or is ON for long periods
3) there are varying grades and quality of light depending on the task you intend to put it to
4) your electricity rates will “necessarily skyrocket” in the coming years, so an investment now will be worth more over the long term.
incandescents burn out as the filament evaporates.
the AC-led the AC-to DC converter is what burns out (same in CFL)
the leds in a burnt our AC bulb can be used in 12 volt arrays afterwards with a little tinkering
as they typically have a 100,000 hour life, the converter has between 35,000 and 50,000 hours
It is the QUALITY of the MFG that is critical.
Compare:
Kilo-watts of Electricity used ~ 8 hours per day/year
LED incandescent CFL
12.848 KWh/yr. 175.2 KWh/yr. 40.88 KWh/yr.
Multiply your KWh x the above number to SEE what it actually costs to run.
Report Post »then re-think your position…
oh, and if they burn out bring it BAC
watchmany2k
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 8:21pmoh and one final thing the above is for a 60 watt incandescent
Report Post »a 100 watt incandescent uses even MORE !
Ruler4You
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 8:37pmIndependent studies have shown that Incandescent light bulbs also provide approximately 3% of the heat in a home. That heat, post “green light”, will need to be produced by other means. In other words, more demand placed on the remaining energy resources.
Unintended consequences of impulsive government.
Report Post »watchmany2k
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 8:53pmSorry couldn’t resist: the opposite is true, it cost more to air condition in summer
Heat Emitted
LED………………………………..3.4 btu’s/hour APPROX
60watt incandescent………….85 btu’s/hour adds to Air Cond. LOAD
CFL……………………………… 30 btu’s/hour adds to Air Cond. LOAD
Thank-You to all who visited the site today !
And Thank-You BLAZE for allowing me to post like this !!
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:08pmI have a question. Why do the liberals in Washington hate poor & elderly people so much? This is a regressive tax on the poor and elderly on fixed incomes. Please tell how those people are supposed to go buy light bulbs. So thanks to the liberals, the poor and elderly will have to now sit in the dark while freezing to death because they can’t afford the energy or the light bulbs. Liberals should be ashamed of themselves. But, we know they won‘t be because they don’t care a flip about the poor at all. They only care about some insane green religion. Wake up poor liberals you’ve been had again! Barrack Obama, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid are your worst enemies.
Report Post »BlueStrat
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 9:38pmGeez, with the Left coming down on incandescent lights like they are, I have to wonder what the Greenies must think of vacuum tubes? I build vacuum tube guitar amplifiers. Nothing else sounds like a tube amp for electric guitar.
Oh yeah, I forgot. Progressives are excused from needing to be consistent.
There are a few hobbyists that actually make their own vacuum tubes. I’ve thought about trying it myself. Maybe the smart move will be to start quietly making incandescent light bulbs out in the back woods instead. Maybe I could start transporting the bulbs in souped-up old cars. I guess that would make me a “Shiner” instead of a “Moonshiner”?
I can see it now…meth-lab-like no-knock (and now, no warrant…thnx Indiana S.C.!) raids by heavily-armed SWAT teams on people’s homes who are suspected of “illegal manufacture/transport/sales/possession of a controlled lighting device”. The prisons will overflow with people convicted of light bulb crimes and they’ll let the drug dealers, murderers, rapists, and gang-bangers out because of over-crowding.
Yup. Sounds like the results of a Progressive plan, alright.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 17, 2011 at 10:04pmLet’s all live like the Amish for a few years and collapse the elite banker ripoff system.
Report Post »Rampart
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 2:47amCFL‘s and LED’s are non-starters as far as dimming, CRI, price and other crucial factors. The true contender for a suitable drop-in incandescent replacement is ESL by Vu1.
Vu1 is just breaking into the marketplace. Their stock is still cheap…Buy some: http://www.vu1corporation.com/
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Posted on May 18, 2011 at 12:27pmI remember back in the 50′s, when I was a little boy, going to the drug store to pay our electric bill, It was never more than $5, and if you needed any light bulbs they were free when you paid.
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