Ariz. Woman Threatened With Citation for Handing Out Free Bottled Water
- Posted on August 21, 2012 at 1:15pm by
Becket Adams
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An Arizona woman is demanding the City of Phoenix apologize to her and her colleagues after officials told them they couldn’t hand out free bottled water, ABC15.com reports.
“Dana Crow-Smith said a City of Phoenix worker came up to her during the First Friday festival in downtown Phoenix last month and told her she was violating city code by handing out free water because she did not have a permit,” the report adds.
Considering that this is Arizona (i.e. a bajillion degrees outside), you’d think officials would encourage people to hand out free [we cannot emphasize this point enough] bottled water.
“Crow-Smith and a group of others were there exercising their Christian beliefs by engaging people to talk about religion if they wanted,” ABC15.com adds.
Crow-Smith and her colleagues brought the bottled water to give away to people roasting in the 112-degree heat [see?], but said a “Neighborhood Preservation Inspector” told them that they had to stop what they were doing or risk a citation.
“It was really hot and yeah we wanted to show God‘s love and a small act of kindness is a great way to do that without shoving it down someone’s throat,” said Crow-Smith.
Watch the ABC 15.com news update:
Since the “No Water Or Else” incident occurred last month, the non-profit civil liberties organization The Rutherford Institute has offered to represent Crow-Smith and help her fight against what they call “a violation of [her] First Amendment right to freely exercise her religion, her Fourteenth Amendment due process rights, as well as Arizona’s Free Exercise of Religion Act.”
“It is a sad day when local government officials prohibit Americans from such charitable acts as giving water to the thirsty in their city,” said John W. Whitehead, president of The Rutherford Institute.
Whitehead has demanded that the City issue “a formal, written apology to Crow-Smith, assure her no City officials will interfere in future with her distribution of water, and require City workers go through training on the proper enforcement of the City’s code,” ABC15.com reports.
If they don’t comply with the request, a lawsuit could follow.
Crow-Smith said she would rather avoid a lawsuit and just wants to give bottled water to thirsty Arizonans.
“But I don‘t think it’s even about religious beliefs. I think anybody should be able to giveaway water on the sidewalk to anybody. It‘s hot and it’s a nice thing to do,” said Crow-Smith.
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Comments (128)
IdahoAdrienne
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:15pmHow ’bout they just put it out with a “steal me” sign??
Report Post »TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:24pmGood one.
Report Post »CochiseWashington
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:59pmBahahaha. Any of us who have lived in AZ know how true that is. :)
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 3:00pmSo is handing out Sand W/a rock of crack better ?
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 3:01pm“Neighborhood Preservation Inspector”
Report Post »What the heck is that?
COFemale
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 3:10pmLion:
“Neighborhood Preservation Inspector”
What the heck is that?
An unnecessary position invented by the Obama administration during TARP. I am sure Gov Brewer isn’t aware of such a position.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 4:46pmNeighborhood Preservation Officer is code for Agenda 21. They want population control, so I guess they want the poor and homeless to die to make room for those of us in the ‘burbs to fit into the city.
I keep a bottle of water (unopened) in my car because we have a couple places where the homeless panhandle. I won’t give money, but I’ll give a bottle of water on a hot day.
Report Post »Cat_Ion
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 11:13pm“a “Neighborhood Preservation Inspector” is what in the Soviet Union were known as the ‘Komissars’ — your basic government informants.
Report Post »Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
Watch who’s got the Obama stickers on their cars — they’ll be the recruits…
MetalPatriot
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 4:47amLorianne & Cat…
that was my first red flag upon reading this article too.
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 6:15amSmall Business in MD
Report Post »Its idiotic thinking like this that just keeps eroding our rights and liberties.
Just how stupid are you? What you selling bottled water for $5 a bottle?
Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 6:42amcofemale, that position has existed since May, 1996. Nice try though.
http://phoenix.gov/employment/descrip/code/60680.html
Report Post »Verceofreason
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:13pmArizona is run by Republicans -you expect SANITY?
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:24pmDer her, der her! Hayuk!
Republicans are stupid poo poo heads! Look at me, look at me! I’m the posterchild for groupthink!
I despise bigotry, unless it’s me doing it to you!
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:26pmYou are nuts Ver. The Dems/Progressives are the control freaks.
“Neighborhood Preservation Inspector” What the heck is that? Can they think up any more titles to harass people with or slap citations on people. Lemonade stands, now free water. Really!
Report Post »The Realist
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:27pmVerceofreason
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:13pm
“Arizona is run by Republicans -you expect SANITY?”
–Try again you commie lib:
Report Post »http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Stanton
CANDYGRAM
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:39pmMayor of Phoenix……Democrat…..educate yourself before opening mouth!
Report Post »Small Business in MD
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:46pmSorry to disappoint, but I live in Montgomery Co., MD and it’s 100% Democrat. The county has a permit law exactly the same as AZ. Our church had to remove their free bottled water at an outdoor event, or face a fine. It’s not about religion, it’s about health codes and fairness between vendors and merchants. It also helps fill the coffers of the county.
Report Post »TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:59pm@Jaycen CooCoo CooCoo CooCoo. Who let the bird out? Who? Who?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:59pmVerceofreason
Arizona is run by Republicans -you expect SANITY?
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Janet Napolitano won 46.2% of the vote to win election as governor of Arizona in 2002 (2006) with 46.2% (62%) of the vote. There are many Democrats voters in Arizona obviously. I bet Phoenix is a Democrat stronghold.
I checked & I found:
Greg Stanton is an American politician who serves as Mayor of Phoenix. Stanton, a Democrat …
You are just too easy. Do you post the stupid things you post after reading talking points or does it just come natural to you?
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 3:02pmYeah, you prefer the methods of Democrat traitors…Why don’t you move to their finest example of governance, move to Detroit.
Report Post »Kupo
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 3:04pmDamn, too many people beat me to pointing out how retarded VOR is. Oh well, I can still rub it in a little bit, I suppose.
Report Post »Docrow
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 3:14pmLooks like Phoenix gets what it ask for……
Greg Stanton is an American politician who serves as Mayor of Phoenix. He won the November 8, 2011 runoff election to succeed term-limited mayor Phil Gordon. Stanton, a Democrat and former Phoenix City Council member who represented areas of north Phoenix, defeated Republican political consultant/lobbyist Wes Gullett after a contentious campaign that resulted in large election turnout.[1] Stanton was sworn in as 52nd Mayor of Phoenix in January 2012.[2]
Report Post »QuincySmith
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 3:45pmtreason;
MUCH more than the insanity you progressives support and advocate.
Report Post »Dr Vel
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 4:05pmSo you are telling me the Phoenix 40 are republicans? After 30 years in the city I think I know a thing or two about the politics there and you are babbling crap without knowledge or truth. Was it republicans who purposefully slowed the work on the I-17, 10 interchange with the stated goal of killing the Roadrunner truck stop to eliminate truck stops from the city. After losing the battle to block the Circle K truck stop from 59th-I10 they made it a policy to ticket endlessly truckers along Watkins and other side streets in their never ending battle against truckers. Democrats were behind this and everyone knows it except you of course. While this is going on they allowed lot lizards and drug dealers to operate without interference in the hopes it would get so bad on the property the public would go along and demand they move the rest of the trucking industry outside the city. Instead Circle K gave up, sold out to Pilot, who did their own clean up of the property and things there are somewhat improved. I say somewhat because as this cleared up the gangs moved in to the surrounding areas unchallenged by the law which we all know is because of the new democrat policy of political correctness saying do nothing if they are non white no matter how many they murder. I was there during the decades from the 70′s on until I got tired of being robbed at shot at moving to the Midwest where it is quiet. If you do not know in truth with experience keep your mouth shut.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 5:28pmVerce got pawned & ran away. Poor, poor “wittle” Verce
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 5:35pmDr Vel
I did a web search, but your information is from someone local. It is disturbing. I expect this from Democrats, but whoa! How do the ingredients for the latte’s they make at Starbucks get to Starbucks? Stupid dumba $$e$ shooting themselves & innocent bystanders in the foot.
That is a lot of eff’n harassment. the police take part in it. I suppose they would if a political police chief gave them quotas. Meet your quota or else. If you are an officer & you have that much sunk cost in your career it is hard to leave the pension & benefits & start over.
WE NEED PORTABLE PENSIONS. More cites ran by Demoncats would fold as people would move out taking their pensions with them for greener pastures.
PORTABLE PENSION <<< IMMANENT THREAT TO Democrat Party.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 8:12pmHey NOREASON, Mayor Greg Stanton and the majority of the city council are Democrats. Did you ever think of doing 2 seconds worth of research before you make accusations that show your intellect.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 8:14pmTHE REALIST, My apologizes. You beat me to that correction.
Report Post »Panix
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 11:15pmNot at the local level.
Report Post »Billw94
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:05amPhoenix City is very Blue. Regardless it is silly. There are several fast food chains that give a way water because of the heat. I thought they could give a way water for listening to their religious message but then they would need a permit to speak I think. Silly.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:06pmWhere in the heck is PhillyAtheist?
I need him to explain to everyone here how Government is not interfering in your day-to-day life. This event never occurred. Nothing to see here. You are free to go through your day as you please. “Nanny State” is code for people who want to starve children and bring back Jim Crow laws.
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:55pmHim and RangerP are discussing how safe the Governement makes us.
Report Post »TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 3:02pmCoo Coo Coo Coo
Report Post »762x51
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 3:54pmI’m impressed with your ability to type with your head buried so deep in your backside.
That’s code for you are a stinking ******* A-hole.
Report Post »PilgrimStuckInBizarroWorld
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 8:36pmGranny you crack me up!
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 11:41pm@FREEDOMoverFEAR
LOL – and no doubt they’re doing it at a Klan rally.
Uh, and the rest of the commenters who aren’t real bright, please don’t read my posts, as they require just a bit of brain power to digest. I don’t often write at the 6th grade reading level, but I’ve done my best to help you keep up on this one. You’re welcome.
Report Post »garylee123
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:05pmWhat are the requirements to be a “Neighborhood Preservation Inspector”? Can you see little Johnny in class being asked what he wants to be when he grows up? The people that even created this title should be fired, little on the ones that gave the “Neighborhood Preservation Inspector” power.
Report Post »WomanInterrupted
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 4:22pmHere is the job description
http://phoenix.gov/employment/descrip/code/60680.html
Report Post »Bobj_1960
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:05pmGo to a county fair in the KOAM 4-state area (Kansas-Oklahoma-Missouri-Arkansas) and you will see many groups handing out bottles of free water.
and what in the blue bunny blazes is a ‘Neighborhodd Preservation Inspector”?
Report Post »Steven63
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:11pmHow the heck do you preserve a neighborhood if you prevent them from drinking water when it’s hot out?
Report Post »ThemDemsLie2much
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:19pmThe Chicago Mob like Left doesn’t want anybody giving out free stuff unless it is them handing it out. That is the way they prep future voters into their poverty scam. They want to train us to rely on them and them alone for things like food, water & shelter. That way, if , once we’re trained, they need our votes, all they have to do is take something away. It’s the socialist way! If someone died that you’d wanted to give water to, you would be up on murder charges.
Report Post »okredstate
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 4:17pmThat would be the guy who kicks obama out.
Report Post »LeadNotFollow
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:04pm…
Report Post »The city officials would probably have not said a thing to this group, had they been handing out free Malt Liquor and brochures about Atheism.
team1blazer
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:03pmI want names! The “government” has become a faceless “god” that determines what we the people can and can not do. We want to put names and contact information on these blowhards, so “We the People” can plant our collective boots up their backsides and remind them that THEY WORK FOR US. not the other way around. Get the names, post the names (and contact info.), and apply pressure.
Report Post »conservativeblackman
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:08pmI second that, find out the legislators who passed this socialist law, and vote them out!
Report Post »marcus_arealius
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:45pmAbsolutely! I’ve said now for a long time, let’s find out the individuals that think up this crap, order subordinates to enforce this crap, and benefit from this crap. I want their names and faces.. posted on telephone poles in their own neighborhood.
Report Post »TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:48pmBarack Obama
Report Post »1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, District of Columbia
Area code ????? Or http://www.firstgov.com. But he won’t answer back. Smiley Face. Ha. Ha.
team1blazer
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 6:54pmThanks for the laugh granny. It really does all start at the top and roll down hill.
Report Post »TomSawyer
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:03pmWe need to pass laws restricting licenses and permits that the government can require of people. Food, water and other things. In California they actually shut down a bible study and gave the couple a Citation because they did not have a permit. There needs to be a limit.
Report Post »Exidor
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:03pmSame thing goes for lemonade stands and garage sales. It’s ridiculous.
Report Post »code green
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:02pmIn these days of post civility……..no good deed shall go un punished by the tyrants of bureaucracy..
Report Post »OniKaze
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:00pmI don’t think this had anything to do with taxes, and everything to do with a government worker needing something to help justify their “useless” job…
The lady wasn’t handing out free condoms to elementary school kids, so they MUST be punished…
I can understand requiring permits to, say, hold a concert.. or to block traffic… But This??? NO…
Report Post »stumpy68
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 3:25pmIf she taped a condom and a planed parenthood pamphlet to each bottle
Report Post »there would be no problem in fact she would likely get awards.
There is something fundamentally wrong in the US today.
olddog
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 1:57pmThe communists have infected our government and are forcing and end to Christianity with their evil.
Report Post »Evil can not live in the light of Christians so we must be destroyed.
pierrepierre
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 1:57pmIt’s not that they care whether someone is charitable or not – they just want to control it. There needs to be an appointment of a “Moisturization Czar” – so that only approved moisture supplements can be controlled and taxed. When are you people going to get it! Hail Obama! – As Obama says: “DO YOU HONESTLY NEED FREEDOM?” (Of course you don’t – you just need guidance!)
Report Post »RANGER1965
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 1:51pmThis is another illustration of the depth that liberal bureacratic weasels have sunk into the fabric of government. These are the petty and spiteful creatures of grade school come again, in an adult world.
Can such evils be removed in a moderate and non-violent revolution as Glenn Beck desires?
With liberalism being so attractive to the weak minded, and the overly emotional, I have my doubts.
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:02pm““Crow-Smith and a group of others were there exercising their Christian beliefs by engaging people to talk about religion if they wanted,” ABC15.com adds.”
How did I know I wasn’t going to have to read far to get to what this was really all about.
Report Post »Jezcruzen
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:10pmFirst, I think getting the terminology correct is necessary. They are not liberals. They are socialists at best, and probably Marxists. They do not believe individuals should be making decisions for themselves.
Report Post »JQuentinEvermann
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 1:48pmIf they were an Atheist lesbian group giving meth and guns to illegal Mexican immigrants, it would be fine, but HONESTLY PEOPLE!!!…you just think that your Christian values are something that is wanted in America? You think helping White people beat the heat will be tolerated? You think that charity is something you should do on your own? No, its the government place to decide who gets what and when, and if you question the almighty authority of the government, you’re going to jail. :p
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 1:47pmWho is the Neighborhood Preservation Inspector?
Who is this person’s boss?
Put their name and picture up for all to see! If they are doing the “people’s work” they should have nothing to hide right? Let them go home and explain to their kids and neighbors and friends that they were just following orders.
Let them answer the question “Do you really believe in threatening people who give away free water or are you just too gutless to stand up for what’s right?”
Report Post »RANGER1965
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:10pmI know some would disagree with your idea’s to hold accountable the actual “workers” of stuid, or evil policy. Instead wishing to attack the leaders or “makers” of the policy. The idea is, don’t attack the “working man” whose just obeying orders.
The problem is the makers of these policys, are often practically immune to public censure because of their position, or the difficulty of making them accountable.
I am beginning to believe (as you have preached), that the only way to directly and quickly impact this type of pervasive evil is to hold everyone involved accountable.
It still bothers me, but I don’t see any other way,.
Report Post »Texas Hills Patriot
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 1:46pmThe City of Phoenix probably thought the fat content of the water was too high. You know cities are always looking out for the best for their citizens. Just look at how New York is looking out for those poor souls who may make a personal choice that isn’t in lockstep with Bloomberg. Plus, these people in Phoenix probably didn’t grease the hands of the politicians with money for a “water distribution in 112 degree weather license”. There are obviously too many people in public service in Phoenix who are looking for some busy work.
Report Post »Arc
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 1:44pmThe accelerated emphasis the current administration has applied to REGULATIONS and enforcement of those regulations has even spilled over into the local city government at its lowest level. As the words to an old Buffalo Springfield song says, “.There’s something happening here, what it is ain’t exactly clear, there’s a man with a gun over there, telling me I got to be aware you better stop, what’s that sound, everybody look whats going down. ”
What’s going down is a “ fundamental change of government” as we know it, being force-fed by Marxist revolutionaries who mistakenly believe they can actually take away our freedom and rights for the sake of social justice.
I fought against Marxism, Socialism and Communism for 20 years to preserve our God given rights and I can continue the fight if need be. Long Live The Republic.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 1:44pmY’all really should donate to the Rutherford Institute. It’s like the ACLU for normal people.
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:04pmACLU for normal people. Nice.
Go Browns!
Report Post »The Sergeant Major
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 1:39pmTell them to drink water because the Sergeant Major said so!
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 1:33pmThen the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?
Report Post »The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.
hayesstephen
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 1:40pmI think it was some Christian hating white trash liberal butting in and had no authority to do anything except to try to intimidate Christians. That person should be found and made to explain their actions.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 1:31pmThe government does not want people to care about one another for it is their goal, it seems, to divide the people. They want to be the ones people are dependent upon. Charitable acts seem to be something they detest for they cannot factor goodness into their equations of evil and suppression. They want people have as hard of a time as possible so they will have to beg from the governments. People of this type is why the world is in the mess it is in. They are greedy and selfish and do not want any burden lifted off of others or goodness displayed by others as it cannot into something they can control.
Report Post »OLDPAINT
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 1:29pmWhites shoved their religion down our throats, now they won’t let us practice it! Drinking horses are a rarity. Leave us alone!
Report Post »hayesstephen
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 1:37pmNonsense! Blow it out your barracks bag
Report Post »Postiche
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 1:53pmHuh?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:33pm“now they won’t let us practice it! ” That is a falsehood.
“Drinking horses are a rarity. “ That is a rather obtuse or oblique way of rendering the saying ”You can bring a horse to water but you can’t make it drink”. There is a lot of wisdom in that saying. I believe in it.
These women were not forcing anyone drink or listen. Christians are instructed to move on if someone will not listen. These women are not saying I gave you a bottle of water & know you must listen for 5 minutes. Most people probably take the water say Thankyou & move on. that is just the way it goes.
Ever hear of “Winter” Shakers?
If you are talking about use of peyote in religious ceremonies, yes the government would stop you or try. But it would also try to stop a person of any other race doing the same.
Go ahead use the peyote, just don‘t come crying to us for welfare because you can’t hold a job.
Report Post »4xeverything
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:34pmReally…huh?
Report Post »OLDPAINT
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 5:56pmNative Americans knew nothing of The Christ before the settlers came from across the sea. Then what? We ( my Ancestors…I’m half-blooded Iroquois by birth) we were taken captive, made slaves and killed if we didn‘t play the ’Jesus’ game. Now I‘m told to blow it out my ’barracks bag’? WTF does that mean!? ‘Paleface afraid we rise up again’ and kick your asses back to Europe where you came from? (Personally, I don‘t mind that one effin’ bit!) Now, finally, the govt. gave us something back with the casinos. Got a gambling problem? Dial 1-800 GO TO HELL! As far as peyote goes, the CIA was experiment with it in the 50s! For mind control, instead of freedom for the mind! The only reply that made any sense to me was WALKABOUT’s. He (?), and only he, is fit to ride with us. The rest of you can walk a mile in ‘my mocassins’! Ingrates!
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 1:26pmThese people are such hogs they wanted the tax off that bottle of water. The need doesn’t even cross their mind. People are about without souls.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:42pmComing soon everyone will need 1099 form for everything (for every little transaction). Feed your neighbors dog while they are on vacation, fill out form 1099 or get fined. After all the poor wittle government would have got taxes if your neighbors had taken Spot to a kennel.
Is Obama to the U.S. as Diocletian was to Rome?
Tax everything the state needs money!
Report Post »booger71
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 1:26pmOnly our benevolent government is allowed to enslave the masses with free stuff.
Report Post »4xeverything
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:40pmThe church down the road does this all of the time around Cincy. They stand on the street corners of very busy intersections during the “dog days” and hand out ice cold water and then thank you for accepting it. These evil nice people must be stopped!;0/
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