LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) — A member of a northern Arkansas school board, commenting on campaign to get people to wear purple to show support for bullied gay and lesbian youth, purportedly posted on Facebook that the only way he would wear purple is “if they all commit suicide.”
The Arkansas Department of Education on Wednesday condemned the alleged posting by Midland School Board member Clint McCance.
The Advocate, a magazine that reports about gay issues, first reported about the posting on its website. The Facebook page has been disabled, but The Advocate posted a screen grab of the purported postings that it says someone forwarded to it.
McCance’s alleged posting was in response to a Facebook campaign that asked supporters to wear purple last Wednesday to show solidarity after several gay and lesbian youths killed themselves, reportedly because of bullying.
“Seriously they want me to wear purple because five queers killed themselves,” McCance allegedly wrote. “The only way im wearin it for them is if they all commit suicide. I cant believe the people of this world have gotten this stupid. We are honoring the fact that they sinned and killed thereselves because of their sin.”
McCance didn’t immediately respond to a message seeking comment Wednesday left on his voicemail. But he told the Arkansas Times that the issue had been “blown out of proportion” and he planned to issue a statement later Wednesday. Officials at the Midland School District said Superintendent Dean Stanley was out of the office and not available for comment.
The Human Rights Campaign, which seeks equal rights for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people, has called for McCance’s resignation. A Facebook group, “Fire Clint McCance,” had more than 15,000 members by midday Wednesday.
The state Education Department said in a statement Wednesday that it had no jurisdiction over elected school officials but that it would investigate any reports of bullying that arise because of the incident.
“The Arkansas Department of Education strongly condemns remarks or attitudes of this kind and is dismayed to see that a school board official would post something of this insensitive nature on a public forum like Facebook,” the department said.
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Frustrated
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 2:19pmYou know what….Agree or disagree with homosexuality but, I know for one its not a choice and I always love how people use religion when its beneficial, take a look at yourself and clarify the bible, live it all or none but dont pick and choose to make yourself look all moral because if you are preeching hate YOU’RE NOT!! This guy should be fired he is there to help all kids get throught WHATEVER they need to, not pick and choose who should be safe, thats what he is paid to do. Think about your kids for a moment, now think of finding them dead, how would you feel them. Agree or disagree but do not condemn, because I think its very clear in the bible that, THAT is NOT your place
Report Post »StonyBurk
Posted on October 29, 2010 at 7:56amI am happy to hear you admit you are frustrated–might I suggest your mixed message is part of the
Report Post »frustration. YOU claim to KNOW that homosexuality is not a choice. And are entitled to your dementia
but science does not support your desire.Where is the scientific evidence to prove what you claim to
know? Why is it called Sexual orientation? Why has Dr.Robert Spitzer, Jeffery Satinover,George Rekers,
Richard Fitzgibbons and other seem to disagree with you?In my experience it is not those who cite the authority of Scripture that condemn the homosexual their choice of behavior condemns them.
read John Chapter 3: and tell me what it says about what the condemnation is. My son will either repent and turn from that chosen lifestyle– or he will die in his sins. IF I found him dead– I would mourn him-he is my son, But I would know he chose death rather than life-darkness rather than to
live in the light.Neither I nor you–nor the secular school system ,nor the godless government ,nor
psuedo -science can change what is written in Scripture.
sWampy
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 1:42pmSo yet again, a conservative wishes a group would end their own lives so they aren’t around to corrupt/abuse others, they are evil and must be put down, yet when liberals wish cancer, call people bitches on national tv, wish them were dead on national tv, it’s to be applauded. ;-/
Report Post »Jezreel
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 1:29pmI hate bullying of any kind, even if the person is gay. I don’t agree with homosexuality. It is an abomination and sickening and we are tired of having it shoved down our throats. I do have compassion and feel sorry for those human beings of any orientation or sex, or race etc, being bullied. I remember being bullied in Australia when I was a child for being born in the United States. It was horrible and even to this day, I have never wanted to go back there and visit or even see any of my relatives except for one cousin and her family.
Report Post »StonyBurk
Posted on October 29, 2010 at 7:41amWhen I was young and entrusted to the public school system I was bullied ,because I was skinny and
Report Post »wore glasses.And my parents said I needed to learn to fight back. I became the guy everybody wanting a
reputation as a fighter had to fight. I was never very good at it. But I was not afraid to fight back-and I
never surrendered. My point being America was a better place then. Before these stupid anti-bullying laws bullied students into covert HATE. Or covert bullying. I liked it better out in the open.But I agree with Jezreel in much of what they say.Homosexuality IMO, is a sin,cannot be compared to race or
gender,suicide is traumatic -but a personal choice -a Stupid choice-better to fight back.And the Bible is True and it is good when it is quoted But what any believes of it is a choice-those who Believe understand it the unbeliever Never will.Because God is Love He will NOT tolerate evil forever-otherwise HE would be neither Just–nor Holy.
thebitter1
Posted on October 30, 2010 at 4:30pm@stonyburk Why can’t it be compared to race or gender?
Report Post »dutyhonorcountry
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 12:55pmOk I started on this page to comment about the article but after reading the quotes from ya’ll I have to comment on the people. Listen to yourselves. First and foremost, I am not a queer, ****, *** or what ever you want to call them. But some of you are talking about suicide like its no big thing. You are quoting the Bible like you wrote the damn thing. I am an ultra-conservative, but this isn’t right. Let the Lord judge, not you. Back off the homophobe tone and just deal with the issue at hand. They are God’s children too.
Report Post »Jezreel
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 1:31pmWe are NOT a child of God until we are born again. In the time appointed by God, he will send his angels to gather the tares (children of the wicked one) into bundles to be burned and then he will gather the wheat (God’s children) in the barn.
Report Post »dutyhonorcountry
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 2:26pm@jezreel…If thats the way you feel then ok, but pray hard tonight that God doesn’t send you to gather the “tares” into bundles. Buddy, I got a few gay friends, good hearted and God fearing humans, and I believe in “Judge not least you be judged yourself”. My place or yours is not to judge but to keep our own houses in order for the coming of the Lord. For the record my friends and my house are both guarded closely by me. I don’t agree with the life style but it is not my position or duty to judge.
Report Post »Bill Wallace
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 12:20pmSince when did “queer” become a profane word that must be asterisked out?
Report Post »whybother
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 11:02amOK….1st-to think being gay is a sin and one will “go to hell” is just plain ignorant….God is LOVE, always. I am NOT gay, but who cares if someone else is?
Report Post »2nd-Trolls like Matty should go back to the MSNBC blogs because vitriol has no place in honest discourse.
Walkwithme usually at least tries to make a valid point, where Matty is just a hateful, miserable person.
3rd-This bozo has the right to make his statements the same as any other American…I am so sick of the hypocrisy that only the left can say what they want. If you want to say or think something, then do so. Do not interfere with any other person’s right to THEIR life, thoughts and dreams!
empleh
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 10:30amHe did NOT wish death upon any of them, he only stated the conditions for which he would wear purple!!! They twist it to make it sound worse than an opinion of personal feelings on gays and suicide.
As for the all the going to hell not going to hell comments, I will leave that alone except for one comment; God cannot allow sin in the least degree in his presence! That is why he sent his Only Begotten Son to the earth to save man from sin (not in their sins), if they chose to give up their sins and follow Christ!
Report Post »tmarends
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 11:27amNot one person can live a life without sin. You surely can’t, even through are suggesting that you have given up your sins… I tell you the truth, you HAVE sinned today, whether you know it or not. John 3:16-18 states that ALL who believe in Christ will be saved and are not condemned, and this includes homosexuals who believe.
Many of you say that if homosexuals just prayed harder, and believed more then they wouldn’t be gay anymore. I have seen the work of Christ in someone’s life. I have seen Christ working in my own life, and I’m still gay. If God wants me to be gay, then there is nothing anyone on this earth can say to do to change that. I have accepted that God has created me as He wants me to be to do His will — as a gay man. Whether or not you want to believe that is no concern for me. I will follow where God leads me.
Report Post »Greyhound424
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 10:24amI believe that homosexuality is an abomination as it it said in the Bible. I believe that it is a choice. GOD gives us free will to choose the life we want to live. Some of us make good choices and some of us make bad choices. It’s still our choices to make. I don’t hate homosexuals, I just don’t agree with their lifestyle choice. I do feel sorry for them. GOD love us all. If we repent of our sins and accept Christ Jesus into our hearts we are saved. For GOD so loved the WORLD. BTW, I hate being called “straight”, I prefer “normal” Thanks.
Report Post »mrlogan3
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 10:45amSo is race a choice too? And gender? Because homosexuality is along those same lines, a way that a person is born. And I’m sure most homosexuals hate ***, queer, and other names given to them, so I think you can deal with being called straight.
tierrah
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 7:23pm@Greyhound: Leaving religion out of the equation since it offends so many, let’s consider only the laws of Mother Nature … can homosexuals reproduce? Where would our progeny be if everyone were homosexual? I don’t approve of the lifestyle but like many others, if that is their choice, then that is their choice. Where my feathers get ruffled are those instances when we are “forced” to recognize or “accept” something that we don’t believe is natural (according to Mother Nature). Don‘t make me wear a purple shirt in honor of something that I don’t agree with (not speaking of the suicide which is sad to contemplate)! If you want to wear a purple shirt .. that’s your business. And definitely don’t teach my children and grandchildren to “accept” an alternative life style that contradicts what I believe. Am so tired of all this BS – what more do these alternative people want? To adopt children and confuse their minds? Wouldn’t you love to be a child of a same sex “union” being constantly placed in the position of explaining or condoning a lifestyle with which the majority of the population disagrees. All I’m saying is keep your sex life PRIVATE!!!!!!!!!!!!! I keep my private.
Report Post »SummerB
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 9:21amYou have to respect the Human Rights Campaign for standing up & doing their job. Yesterday, we saw that hidden video made concerning the teacher who in NJ who called the student the N word. Well, were’s the NAACP, where’s Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson.
Report Post »Harvey
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 6:58amI dont understand why people dont tell the truth about what these people are doing.This has got to be the most sickening thing i can imagine.For two people of the same sex to use the parts of the body that is designed to discard the bodys waste to have sex,i cant even start to imagine what is in these peoples mind.It is a proven fact that these people carry and spread more sexually transmitted diseases than any other part of the population,even teenagers.It is also a fact that the largest number of pedophiles is also so called gay men ,although there is an increaseing number of so called Gay,women becomeing pedophiles also.
Report Post »What is going through peoples minds that they insist that this is a normal and healthy lifetyle,politicans put our childrens lives at risk saying that theres nothing wrong with what these people are doing,just for the so called gay vote.
Its time we stand up to these perverts and put them out of office,they usually keep their sickness a secret until after their elected and then they use their office for nothing but to promote their sick lifestyle.We have got to stop these politicans from passing laws to teach this stupidity
in our classrooms.We have the opportunity in a few days to rid our nation of these so called Gay Congressmen and women who is promoteing this kind of lifestyle,lets put them out of office where they cant do anymore damage to our children or our Nation.
Matty1631
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 7:12amthat’s right harvey,
I warned you all about this it is all a part of the marxist, commie, socialist, homosexual teachers union plan to make all of our children homosexuals.
Report Post »Deutscher
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 9:52amI would relish the opportunity to have this discussion with you in person.
You don’t have ONE fact right. You are simply factually WRONG, spread the most disease, wrong. Are more likely to be pedophiles, wrong. The only reason I bother to engage you is you Newark know that not only are you factually wrong, but not all libertarians are homophobic wackjobs. Although I doubt you would have the cajones to get out of your chair and say this in front of people
Report Post »mrlogan3
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 10:05am@HARVEY, lets use some grown-up words, ok? The penis, an organ that is used by the body not only for sex but also for waste removal, is also used in HETEROSEXUAL acts. So is the ANUS. Homosexuals aren’t promoting it like “hey, this is fun, try it out,” they simply are trying to get people who are a bit more opinionated to accept them. They are people, that is the way they were created by the same God who you claims hates them.
Report Post »blackdog911
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 5:54amHere is the deal…….If you live a lifestyle like the “gay” one….either be proud or go back in the closet. If you are ashamed to the point of suicide….maybe, just maybe, it’s wrong to start with.
Report Post »Matty1631
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 7:01amThat’s right blackdog,
If these homosexuals can’t handle us constantly ridiculing them and attempting to to take away thier civil rights then maybe there is just something wrong with them.
This man is 100% correct in his comments about these marxist, commie, elmo loving, view watching, homosexual union teachers.
Report Post »phil1765
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 5:14amI am sorry people but I really take offense to alot of these comments on this story. I have a daughter who is gay, I don‘t completely understand why and whether being gay is a sin is an issue between her and God it doesn’t concern you in the least so why do you care? She is a beautiful 21 y/o and soon to be college graduate that has fiscally conservative beliefs like the majority on this website, she doesn‘t ask special treatment for herself and her girlfriend and doesn’t expect it. Why would anyone who is a TRUE christian think that it is their place to judge anyone else? Isn’t there a scripture that states judge not lest ye be judged? Maybe you should get off your high horses and think about that for a second, we have bigger problems in this country right now than what a person does in the privacy of their own bedroom with a consenting adult.
Report Post »taghan7477
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 8:55amThanks, Phil1765.
Report Post »StonyBurk
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 10:01amMy son thinks he is gay. I know you love your daughter and are blinded for that. I was blinded by same emotive force when my children first started experimenting with drugs–and sometime I wish I had looked
Report Post »at it with eyes open. Maybe I could have helped them avoid some of the self destruction.I don’t hat your
daughter–anymore than I hate my son. But I have NO authority to change the inspired word of God.
My son will either repent and walk away from that lifestyle or he will die in his sins -and in that respect he is dead already.
AngryTexanFromAmarillo
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 10:12amIf you want to be gay or lesbian fine, do what ever you want, but don’t force it on the rest of society.
It amazes me the double standards in the world. If person is a christian and wants to spread the gospel and teach about jesus he is considered nuts and shamed. but when the gay community wants to force people to accept their life style and keep pushing it on the american people its perfectly ok.
As I said your life your choice, But I don‘t believe in it and I don’t feel it is your place to teach my children its ok. You don‘t want me to teach your children what the bible says and you don’t want God in the schools or the Government well All I ask is the same respect. I will go as far as to compare Homosexuals to Religious people. If you don‘t agree with Christians that is your choice I don’t agree with gays, Difference is I’m not going to shove my beliefs down your throat. so please don’t try to shove yours down mine.
I don‘t want homosexuality taught in school and you don’t want the Bible taught in schools fine, DON’T TEACH EITHER. Don’t condemn or condone either in our schools. It is the Parents job to teach such things, not schools or media or TV programs.
Report Post »thebitter1
Posted on October 30, 2010 at 4:33pm@stonyburk Are you saying you hate your son? That’s really low and makes me unbelievably disappointed in people.
@AngryTexanFromAmarillo The gays are not trying to push it on people, they are trying to make it ok to be gay. They don’t want you to be gay, they just want to be your equals.
Report Post »Matty1631
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 3:15amExactly stewie,
We need to blame the entire LGBT community for what two pedophiles did to Jessie in 1999.
There is no better way to honor Jessie’s memory than to wish death on every gay and lesbian person in this country.
Now I bet these marxist, socialist, homosexual union teachers will try to make you and me out to be radicals, but it doesn’t matter, there name calling will have no effect on us.
Report Post »Stewie
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 2:54amWhat color shirt did the LGBT community harangue into wearing when they celebrated the murder of Jesse Dirkhising?
Report Post »tmarends
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 11:04amNot knowing your reference, I went and looked it up. Do you have evidence that homosexuals celebrated this horrific death? I find the reports of young Jesse’s murder very disturbing. Please provide evidence that Jesse’s murder was celebrated in the LGBT community… unless, of course, you don’t have any and just made that up.
Report Post »Matty1631
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 2:15amFolks, I told you this was coming. This is what the liberal media does.
All this man did was make a harmless comment about wishing all homosexuals would commit suicide.
But the liberal media is trying to make him out to be some kind of radical.
Report Post »tmarends
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 10:56amA “harmless” comment about saying ALL homosexuals should commit suicide? You think that’s “harmless”?? Is it “harmless” if we say all fat people should commit suicide for their sin of gluttony?? Or maybe we should just wish that all left-handed people, an obvious sign of the devil, would commit suicide as well.
Report Post »Truth_through_the_Trinity
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 1:54amnot very nice to say, but he still has right to say whatever he wants
Report Post »Hmschlmom
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 2:53amAgreed, but perhaps someone who is a public school official should have had the brain cells to know that posting something like that on FB was not going to be the career move of the century?
And, if he is truly so heartless about bullying deaths (This should not just be about homosexual bullying, THAT is the big problem)…perhaps this is the wrong job?
All bullying is wrong. Not just that which is aimed against a special group.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 1:26amthank God for the Blaze, a chance to steam-valve an opinion or two.
Report Post »Deutscher
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 3:05amIf you mean a place where you can you can be a homophobic religious zealot. Yeah I think you are among friends , I’m very sorry to discover. Enjoy. Maybe more poor CHILDREN will kill themselves and give you your much-needed release.
Report Post »jcons114
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 12:53amYou hate the sin and love the sinner. if this wasn’t true why would God send His Son to save us? Actions can be intrinsically evil…but persons cannot because they would have to desire to do evil which no one really does. We all desire the Good but because of original sin our perception of what is good is skewed. A homosexual desires a good (sexual pleasure, intimacy with another) but the seek that good in a perverse way (i.e. outside of marriage with a member of the same sex). Evil is not in the ends but the means. Hence why the “ends dont justify the means.” Check out St. Thomas Aquinas’ “Summa Theologiae”for a better explanation.
Report Post »Matty1631
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 12:40amFolks, I warned you this would happen.
Woodrow wilsons spirit has obviously possesed this man and forced him to wish death on homosexuals. These homosexual, marxist, socialist, progressive, union members are trying to make our children into homosexuals. It is so obvious folks.
But don’t take my word for it, do your own research.
Report Post »mrlogan3
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 9:49amAre you being satirical here?
Report Post »DMD
Posted on October 27, 2010 at 11:53pmGays and muslims the protected class.
Report Post »robert5635
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 12:05amOnly in their minds, certainly not mine, but I hear you. They can’t outrun God, no one can.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 12:21amI did notice the newsman from Arkansas was awfully quick to imply that Christians are the problem, not the gays trying to force thier behavior on us as something we have to accept.
Report Post »mrlogan3
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 9:48amWhat is this foolishness? Gays and Muslims are probably the most persecuted people in America today! Protected? How are they protected? Because decent people stand up and say something when opinions go too far, these groups are protected? Not even close…
Report Post »StonyBurk
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 9:55amYou forgot to include Democrats as protected class
Report Post »Blacktooth
Posted on October 27, 2010 at 11:36pmJames 1:14-15 tells us the truth about sinning and its result. Ignore it at your peril.
So, whether or not a man would choose suicide or wait till later, the result is the same for sinning…..DEATH.
Would it be good to try to live a righteous life? John 17:3
Report Post »robert5635
Posted on October 27, 2010 at 11:26pmCan understand this guys stand, was on certain dating site, and another man’s profile came up as one of this (unnamed) site’s match for me. Have zero tolerance anymore for homosexuals or their follower’s agenda to push themselves on everyone. My profile clearly states I am straight and single, there is no excuse for homosexuals to continue to use ‘they were born homosexuals’ when they clearly have all the sexual organs of either male or female, and choose to sleep with their own gender and have only their mouth and mindset to reproduce their own kind. Homosexuality is a clear disobedience to the laws of God and man, and is just as other sins, abortion (murder of the unborn), outright murder, and so forth and so on. How could it not be a choice, if they push it on YOU personally?
Report Post »WhiteFang
Posted on October 27, 2010 at 11:56pmThe homosexual community want to “push their agenda” on society because they want to sanctify their deviant behaviors. If they can sway the majority to accept their sin, then they will feel better, and can salve their conscious. The mind can, eventually, justify any sin if you work at it long enough.
Report Post »thebitter1
Posted on October 30, 2010 at 4:28pmIt’s not a choice because they were born that way. Is my black skin a choice? Or is it a choice to be left handed? Because not too long ago, those were socially unacceptable things too.
Report Post »Blacktooth
Posted on October 27, 2010 at 11:25pmHomosexuality is a sin against God, against yourself, and against society. The result of that sin is self loathing, a damaged conscious, and rejection that comes from decent society. Many sinners commit suicide not only from the pain of homosexuality but from the results of other sins like murder. theft, lying, etc.
Report Post »Romans 6:23 says; The wages sin pays is death. So, even if we seem to get away with sinning (for a while) death will catch up with us.
mrlogan3
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 9:41amHomosexuality is not a sin, it is a way of life for people. Not one that is freely chosen, so if homosexuality is a sin then predestination is true and the entire idea of free will in religion means nothing.
Report Post »StonyBurk
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 9:52amThank You– as seems most often true –Others say what I believe better than I could.T’anks.
Report Post »YellowFin
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 6:27pmMr Logan. Is child molestation a life style? Is it a choice to be a child molester? How about being a murderer? Is that a sin or a life style? What of a thief, is that a life style? You contend that these people who follow a sinning lifestyle cannot help it, they have no choice, they are born that way. What kind of fool would try to accept this? Everyone has choices to make as to how they will live and they make those choices and are obliged to accept the consequences of those choices.
Report Post »thebitter1
Posted on October 30, 2010 at 4:26pm@yellowfin I’m not sure if your answer was serious. You are comparing murder, molestation and thievery to being gay? Please tell me you’re joking. Seriously, I mean that.
Report Post »TruthTalker
Posted on October 27, 2010 at 11:02pmI think the word you were searching for freedom was “commit” suicide, and I he didn’t say he wished they would. Just saying….
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 27, 2010 at 11:49pmYes, I meant to write “commit”. Tired today. I didn‘t think you were wishing they’d kill themselves, it just seems like the guy in the story would not be too upset about someone killing himself because he was ashamed of his homosexuality. I crack jokes on gays and their agenda all the time but I wouldn’t want someone to kill himself because he was ashamed of something he feels.
Report Post »TruthTalker
Posted on October 27, 2010 at 11:55pmagreed
Report Post »Harvey
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 5:40amThe reason these people kill themselves is because they know what they are doing is wrong.They also know they can stop this sickening pratice.These people are cowards.
Report Post »mrlogan3
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 9:38am@HARVEY The reason they kill themselves is because of the unbearable persecution they face from those who think like you and call them sinners.
Report Post »StonyBurk
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 9:50amI think he was reacting to the pressure applied that suggests everybody needs to embrace and be as one
Report Post »with the homosexual. I agree with him in that it is not my fault if a reprobate chooses to commit suicide.
I got nothing to say to those idiots who choose the quick fix -the easy way out Listen to the song
that was theme for MASH. and think Damn I beat myself up for the loss every time someone chose to check out early and I finally realized there is Nothing anyone can do if someone wants to end it.
Purple shirts mandated won’t end suicide nor make the reprobates feel any more loved.
TruthTalker
Posted on October 27, 2010 at 10:35pmSo anybody that doesnt embrace homosexuality is a demon???
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 27, 2010 at 10:48pmI‘m glad I’m not in politics. Your personal business gets splashed all over the place. Wishing someone would create suicide is not cool though.
Obama is now burning books like the Nazis did.
Report Post »snowleopard3200
Posted on October 27, 2010 at 11:01pm@The Blazers, my position on this tends to be skewed to one side on matters of homosexuality, so I will focus on this instead:
As a chaplain one thing I often find being called is some version of “demon; demonic; the devil” and whatever else you wish to attach to it. “Lucifer incarnate” was one of my favorites. So no suprise comes to myself with this. However, if it is true, that someone wishes others suicide for their sins is not teaching the true love of God and of Jesus; do not like the ACTIONS one does, including self, but DO NOT condemn the PERSON themselves.
To teach others that a person should suicide themselves is teaching of hate, bigotry, and ignorance deliberately made as truth.
Seperation of Person from their Actions is not easy, and I still have problems a lot of times, yet I honestly believe this is one of the core tenents of the Gospels, and of a true life of faith.
TruthTalker
Posted on October 27, 2010 at 11:20pmSnow, A demonic/demon trait is an intrinsic trait. It cannot be seperated from the individual who has committed the act, again because it is intrinsic. Molestation, is intrinsically evil. Therefore the person commiting a molestation is evil. Once again, it cannot be seperated from the individual. There are other acts that are intriscally evil as well. Again, he did not say he wished they would commit suicide. Not trying to preach to you Padre’. I just believe there are certain things that are done that cannot be seperated from those who do them.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on October 27, 2010 at 11:43pmTT,
That pretty much sums it up.
Almost forgot, I thought the left champions free-speech?
PatriotShops.com
Report Post »Chunks
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 4:08amOk, I’m gay and understand not everyone agrees with my life style and THATS FINE but nothing irks me more than playing the religon card. I’m a baptised Methodist and I was taught that god loves all his children, and I refuse to beleive that God will punish me for living a happy successful life. And if I do go to hell for being gay? So be it… I’ll see all of you there (not loving all God’s children is a sin last time I checked). And you know what else? If I do a lot of good in my life but I‘m denied heaven because I’m gay then I‘m sorry I don’t want to be apart of such a hypocritical kingdom. Do you have to agree with me or be my friend? Hell no… But the way some people on this post think homosexuals are lower than the gum stuck to the botttom of their shoe is just discusting… Again, see you in hell.
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 4:44am@CHUNKS I‘m a Christian and I don’t think you’ll go to hell for being gay. You might go for something else, or there might not even be such thing as a hell, so who knows. I crack jokes on every group imaginable, including gays, but the gay people I’ve known have been decent-hearted people. Total pervs, mind you, but decent people nonetheless. What the hell do I know? I’d say if you live a good life, God ain’t gonna care about the fudge packing. Just my opinion. I wouldn’t take to heart anything you read on the internet anyway.
This comment does not necessarily reflect the views of Glenn Beck, The Blaze, theblaze.com, Fox News or anyone else for that matter. The FAT CLOWN ANCHOR at MSNBC can eat balls.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 7:58amYou got it. If you disagree with the gays they are going to sic the ACLU or someone on you. But they can disgrace you all they want. I agree with the dude. But I am smart enough not to put it on my facebook or anywhere on the internet.
Report Post »YOOPER69
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 8:33amWhat happened to first amendment rights. I don;t agree with suicide because that is a sin too. and God will not except sin.
Report Post »mrlogan3
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 9:28amIt’s one thing to not embrace homosexuality, but when you suggest they all kill themselves that has gone too far.
Report Post »StonyBurk
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 9:42amThis episode ,I could say-If I was like most Gays I know–has cause me a PTSD moment. I was in Bible College when my youngest girl was born. My son just out of diapers. the local public high school was party to national sin of making schools gay friendly(2000) My son was encouraged by his counselor and by evil people who called themselves his friends to “try it-the gay lifestyle choice– and “Decide for himself. Now he thinks he‘s gay and can’t change and is doing the self destructive drug thing as well.
Report Post »his sisters were neither protected nor encouraged. and th ewhole public system is just antichristian CRAP.
SRH
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 10:42amChunks: I completely agree with you! Who are we to judge other people? If my neighbor is gay, it doesn’t infringe on my rights at all; therefore, it is none of my business. Live and let live people! STOP SPREADING THE HATE!!!! All of these nasty comments are the reason the left think we are all hate mongers! Respect yourself and respect other people.
If you believe that the gay lifestyle is wrong because of your religion (I can‘t imagine a God that doesn’t love all his children as he created us all), so be it, but that has nothing to do with the rights and freedoms granted by the our Constitution. If heterosexuals have the right to get legally married, those same rights should apply to gay couples because it is not the governments right or responsibility to choose who we marry. EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL; STOP SPREADING THE HATE!
Report Post »SRH
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 10:48amSTONYBURK: If you think your sons “friends and counselors” talked him “into” being Gay, you have lost your mind. A person can’t just talk another person into being gay. You either are you aren’t. We are born either gay or straight, sweetie. I‘m sure if your son’s friends and counselors told him to try the gay lifestyle it was because he had indicated in some way that maybe he felt he was gay.
Just accept the fact that God made your son who he is, and he happens to be gay. Love him unconditionally and accept him for who he is.
Report Post »shotgun
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 12:38pmIt is not ok to wish anyone especially children to kill themselves. IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION TO DECIDE THIS…. THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU. I personally do not like homosexuality itself. I hate it being on TV for our kids to see. I hate that some teach it is an optional lifestyle. It should definatly be treated as a disorder / birth defect. But HOW STUPID WOULD YOU HAVE TO BE TO WISH DEATH UPON A CHILD?????? Or anyone else for that matter.
Report Post »ron the veteran
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 1:25pmchunks its in the bible as being wrong. i think ill take the word of God over some home who trying to make excuses for your sins. and when you try to sell your lie to kids in schools thats really sick.
Report Post »if you want to be gay keep it to yourself we dont want it pushed on us or our kids just so you feel excepted. you should feel shunned and discusted for you are going against God and his teachings.
BeckFan1964
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 1:48pmI remember a time when you were a demon if you did embrace homosexuality. There is no equality here. None whatsoever.
Report Post »ARAGORN2123
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 1:49pmROFL, I LOVE this guy! All the slackjawed, limpwristed Libs have their panties in a twist. Keep up the good work, Clint.
Report Post »mrlogan3
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 2:44pm@aragorn2123 It‘s also in the Bible that you can’t eat pork and lobster and you can’t shave your sideburns. The Bible, unlike the (please don’t say it, please don’t say it) Qur’an is not directly from God.
Report Post »TakeBackAmerica
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 3:06pmFREEDOMOFSPEECH
WHat Christian doesn’t believe in hell? Only the false ones who pray there isn’t one!
Phony
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 7:51pmThats right! Got your purple shirt yet?
Report Post »heebster
Posted on October 28, 2010 at 9:12pmIs that really how you view it? Really?
The issue is that this educator wished suicide for his students because he disagreed with their lifestyle. But yeah, you take the high road on this one.
Report Post »Chunks
Posted on October 29, 2010 at 12:32amHa, I‘m the only conservative gay you’ll probably ever meet, and “limp wristed libs”? Excuse me I’m quite a gear head, I played many sports over the years, and I’m a student pilot. I‘m not the manliest guy around but I’m far from that typical stereotype, so please don’t stereotype me, it’s insulting and makes you look like an idiot, plus even if I fit that stereotype to the bone WHO THE F*** CARES?
Report Post »Too add, I, nor any homosexuals I know “push” kids to be gay, when a kid thinks he or she is gay I don’t say or imply “YES YOU ARE!” Instead I find its best just to talk to them about it, just like you would if your child was having problems with a bully at school. From personal experience this is an EXTREMELY hard time for young adults to deal with, and me saying “YES! You HAVE to be gay!“ is just as bad as you saying ”NO! You CAN’T be gay!” again, this just makes you look like a hypocritical idiot. Also, the same guys that say “homosexuality is a disease/disorder and it can be fixed!”
First: STFU
Second: you have NO idea what young adults have to go through when figuring out their sexuality, I know this from personal experience and since you’re obviously “Big tough straight guy” you have ZERO idea what I or other gay people go through… yeah… right, and you’re probably one of those 40 something arm chair quarterbacks who think they can be better then NFL athletes… yeah dude… YOU’RE cool…
Finally, I’ve said this a thousand times, you don’t have to agree with me or my life style but the hate is disgusting, I’m not trying to push “can’t we all just get along?” BS but come on, aren’t we past stereotypes and put downs? What are we, 12?
Side note: I’m glad I found The Blaze by the way; it’s so hard to have a mature intelligent debate now a day!
Chunks
Posted on October 29, 2010 at 12:51am@SRH well said!
Report Post »@Ron The Veteran: I’d gladly be shunned to a place far away from you ;) hell I’d go without a fight!
StonyBurk
Posted on October 30, 2010 at 10:19amHe has resigned. So now they can all put on their purple shirts and sing cumbaya and pass the bowl around–and chant We are one with th e radical homosexuals. Bend Over grab your ankles and
Report Post »prepare to be rammed form behind. The poser in th eWhite House desires a Queer nation.
thebitter1
Posted on October 30, 2010 at 4:23pm@stonyburk I‘ve tried to avoid name calling but you’re pushing me…you sound so foolish spewing this hatred. A “Queer” nation is not a punishment. Really, relax. You need to calm down and evaluate things that are truly important about people. Sexual orientation is not something to be concerned with.
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