Army Gen. Allegedly Sanctioned Psy-Ops on U.S. Senators
- Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:28am by
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Rolling Stone Magazine has uncovered a shocking charge against a prominent U.S. general in Afghanistan.
According to the magazine’s sources, Lt. Gen. William Caldwell, a three-star general in charge of training Afghan troops, ordered psychological warfare experts in his command to perform psychological operations (psy-ops) on American senators in order to secure more funding.
Rolling Stone reports:
Over a four-month period last year, a military cell devoted to what is known as “information operations” at Camp Eggers in Kabul was repeatedly pressured to target visiting senators and other VIPs who met with Caldwell. When the unit resisted the order, arguing that it violated U.S. laws prohibiting the use of propaganda against American citizens, it was subjected to a campaign of retaliation.
“My job in psy-ops is to play with people’s heads, to get the enemy to behave the way we want them to behave,” says Lt. Colonel Michael Holmes, the leader of the IO unit, who received an official reprimand after bucking orders. “I’m prohibited from doing that to our own people. When you ask me to try to use these skills on senators and congressman, you’re crossing a line.”
According to documents obtained by Rolling Stone, as well as interviews with members of the psy-ops team, the list of targets included senators John McCain (R-AZ), Joe Lieberman (I-CT), Jack Reed (D-RI), Al Franken (D-MN), and Carl Levin (D-MI); Rep. Steve Israel (D-NY) of the House Appropriations Committee; Adm. Mike Mullen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; the Czech ambassador to Afghanistan; the German interior minister, and a host of influential think-tank analysts.
Lt. Colonel Holmes said the general and his chief of staff specifically wanted to plant ideas in congressional delegates’ minds without them knowing:
According to Holmes, the general wanted the IO team to provide a “deeper analysis of pressure points we could use to leverage the delegation for more funds.” The general’s chief of staff also asked Holmes how Caldwell could secretly manipulate the U.S. lawmakers without their knowledge. “How do we get these guys to give us more people?” he demanded. “What do I have to plant inside their heads?”
The use of such tactics on American citizens is strictly forbidden.
“According to the Defense Department’s own definition, psy-ops – the use of propaganda and psychological tactics to influence emotions and behaviors – are supposed to be used exclusively on ‘hostile foreign groups,’” Rolling Stone reports. “Federal law forbids the military from practicing psy-ops on Americans, and each defense authorization bill comes with a ‘propaganda rider’ that also prohibits such manipulation.”
“Everyone in the psy-ops, intel, and IO community knows you’re not supposed to target Americans,” one veteran member of another psy-ops team who has run operations in Iraq and Afghanistan told the magazine. “It’s what you learn on day one.”
Holmes eventually consulted a JAG lawyer, who agreed the tactics were inappropriate. But after Holmes directed his concerns up the chain of command, he was eventually put under investigation for, among other things, Facebook posts — it’s a move he says was retaliation. The investigation ended in an official reprimand for conduct.
A spokesman for Caldwell said the general “categorically denies the assertion that the command used an Information Operations Cell to influence Distinguished Visitors.”
As for the the alleged tactics, it’s unsure if they worked. However, Rolling Stone notes Caldwell has asked for more money, and one of his supposed targets has become one of the biggest cheerleaders for the funding:
What is clear is that in January 2011, Caldwell’s command asked the Obama administration for another $2 billion to train an additional 70,000 Afghan troops – an initiative that will already cost U.S. taxpayers more than $11 billion this year. Among the biggest boosters in Washington to give Caldwell the additional money? Sen. Carl Levin, one of the senators whom Holmes had been ordered to target.
Rolling Stone has broken a big story about a general in the past. Its report on former Afghan commander Gen. Stanley McChrystal over the summer, and his comments about president Obama, led to his ouster. That story recently won an award.
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run42k
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:00amMen Who Stare at Boxes of Rocks – Rated PG-13
Report Post »run42k
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:58amConsider the congressmen involved…that would be like a sequel of ‘Men Who Stare at Goats’…‘Men Who Stare at Boxes of Rocks’.
Report Post »Ironsides
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:58amSo, you tell us to win, refuse us the resources we need to do it, then get all shocked and incredulous when we do something outside the box and slightly distasteful?
Report Post »JimmyT
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:55amLooking at the list, at least they picked the weak minded to perform their phy-ops on.
Report Post »propagandhist
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:55amThe CIA & FBI use the same tactics. This isn’t limited to the military community. These are very well known intelligence tactics (in fact I think the CIA came up with the name PSYOPS) and are used against everyone on Earth. What do you think the liberal media does on a daily basis. IT’s PSYOPS against the masses. They are using “SILENT WEAPONS FOR QUIET WARS.”
Report Post »Know-Nothing
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:52amSounds like a desperate General doing what he can to win a war. If he did it he was wrong. But then we have the question of the Psy/Ops used by Obama and his administration, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, the teachers union in Wisconsin, SEIU, AFL-CIO. Another word for Psy/Ops “LIARS” believe them and you’re a vicitim of Psy/Ops, should be a law against that too Lol!
Report Post »BQI
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:52amGiven the state of affairs with our legislators, it seems to me the General is a true American and was trying to help otherwise clueless Senators.
http://www.blackquillandink.com See how the US Government is preparing for America’s Civil Unrest.
Report Post »LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:51amThis is a shame ! they should do what they did back in the 60′s, and give them some LSD
Report Post »Nations
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:50amRolling stone is full of BS most likely. Having been in the Publishing business myself, I know how one sits around with editors, trying to find an angle to put forth and work so that ideas may be portrayed to the public. Budget meetings get very cute sometimes. This is designed to stoke the fire for Liberal factions and to spread discourse to a high degree. The military should investigate Rolling Stone for its (psy-ops) techniques here in exploiting what a general has to do to influence Senators to put more money in a life and death operation that he is responsible for, but no. It is very difficult to get what you need to run an army and do a job the way it needs to be done without many, many causalities. A U.S. Senator knows when he is being Leveraged and no amount of silly pressure will change his or her mind. To suggest that this is what took place is grabbing at straws and that is exactly what Rolling Stone is doing.
Report Post »Deutscher
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:10amHow do you suggest the military investigate a business? What group has that investigative authority? Given that you dont seem to understand that, I dont think you have any knowledge of the process the pentagon uses to get and allocate funds to missions.
Nations
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 1:14pmNations to Nations, you are right on.
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:50amWhat’s the key phrase in this entire article? Hint: it’s buried.
“My job in psy-ops is to play with people’s heads, TO GET THE ENEMY TO BEHAVE THE WAY WE WANT THEM TO BEHAVE,”
At least some Army General sees Dems in Congress in their correct, anti-American light.
Report Post »bertr
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:57pmVery interesting perspective…. that point of view didnt cross my mind, But it makes me think
Report Post »PNATTMBTCurtain
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:46amSomething else for Darrell Issa to look into. If he did it the order to do so came from somewhere. Hmmmm….
Report Post »natstew
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:46amRolling Srone Magazine? Why am I not surprised?
Most Senators should be in an asylum!
Report Post »freedumb1
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:39amOrganizing For America…Hope and Change…Hope and Change…Hope and Change…
Report Post »Mister_Bill
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:28pmAnd how is that hopey-changey thing doing for you? Can you say the words Fourteen-Trillion Dollar Debt real fast three times? That is not what I voted for in t he last election, vote in 2012.
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:38amThe military is an unnecessary evil and must be done away with. Violence never solves anything. Violence only leads to more violence.
For whatever reason, People don’t seem to get this.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:43amwhat an idiot and what do you think will happen if we get rid of the military………………everythings going to be peachy and all those other countries out there will love us???
this is one of your most ridiculous and uneducated posts ever STUPID WINDMILL
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:47amWHAT????? you are delusional. if you think other countries wouldnt attack us if we didnt have a military your nutz
this is like making the argument to get rid of the police and the criminals will stop committing crimes
your post has surely proven there is nothing betwix your ears
Report Post »B-Neil
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:54amAs I fall to my knees on my prayer rug, bow my head and tell those who want to do me harm; Take me, Please take me. No one is here to stop you…..Carry on McDuff
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:03amViolence is an inherent primate response to certain stimuli.
Conversley, to the “violences leads to more violence” tripe (which is true), submission and passivity to violence also leads to more violence. Especially in primates. Catch-22.
Report Post »arx
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:17amYou chose a perfect handle
Report Post »booger71
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:18amThe Military is one of the few things our Constitution instructs Congress to spend money on. Not health care, not government housing, not welfare, not cash for clunkers, etc.
Report Post »warrior21
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:26pmActually -Stupid Windmill- the reason people don’t get it, and you do, you live in a different world.
Report Post »sleazyhippo
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 4:04pmThe US military is one of the few “purely good” social institutions – in that, honor and courage and morals are the most admired and important virtues. Also Guts. If our American military were what you said, we would not be here tapping away at our keyboards, drinking bourbon behind sealed doors waiting for the GB show to come on TV. But by then we will be locked up, and loaded.
Report Post »ZeitgeistBuster
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 8:52pmStupid Windmills, it is good to get some actual experience with life to put your profound ideas to the test. Violence never solved anything? YOU ARE CATEGORICALLY WRONG!
I am alive today because my mom was unafraid to use violence to defend herself and her two young boys. A man came to our house looking for his wife who escaped his near fatal abuse with my mom’s help. He threatened to kill my mom and us boys if she didn’t tell him where his wife was… My mother pulled the 30/30 from behind the door and pointed the barrel at his head and told him she would never tell him where Margo was and that he had five seconds to decide if he was going to leave the property alive.
His nerve failed him and he backed off and turned to leave, with my mom giving him a warning that if he showed his face around us again, she would assume the worst from him and shoot him dead on sight.
The guy was serving a life sentence two years later for strangling to death a new girlfriend.
Violence, used to protect your person or your nation, or human liberty has and does accomplish puting evil into check.
Vain philosophy and empty deceits have derailed a lot of otherwise intelligent people.
Report Post »fourfreedom
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:38amGee, isn’t that what MSM does all the time to the American People?
Report Post »KEA
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:38amGlad to see a Col. stand up for what is right. At least SOME of our leaders are trustworth.
This General should be thrown out for his actions!
Report Post »franknshadow
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:23pmFor what?? Assigning a Col. to be a lobbyist?? Take off the uniforms and you’ve got the lobbying system in DC..
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:38amPoor TOWERSEVEN
His head will explode when he reads this…
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:51amTower’s been wearing a tin foil cap for years to keep from having his brain waves spied on.
Report Post »omgfolks
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:37amGive That general another GOLD STAR. If we can instill fear in Americans through media then they should get their fair share.
Report Post »Deutscher
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:37amThe drive to complete a mission can sometimes create a myopic view and lead to bad decisions Although they police themselves pretty well , there is a reason there is civilian control of the military.
Report Post »inexiletill2012
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:35amRolling Stone Magazine vs. The U.S. Military
What a shocker
Report Post »leahasevedo
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:48amrolling stone did a good thing here. this is the kind of truth we the people have been waiting for. this is good for us to know. the most important part of the story is how the military refused his orders. that is very good news to the citizens of this beautiful nation.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:48amHeck, there’s no decent rock & roll to write about anymore, they’re bored.
Report Post »G man
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:35amShould have water boarded them.
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:52amI’ll get the hose…….
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:34amI think it worked on Al Franken. That guy’s mind is all screwed up.
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:51amSen. Franken-Berry’s mind is the barren soil in which a good idea cannot take root…..alas, it is the desert of constructive thought, where no oasis may be found……..I blame Climate Change for his sad condition…..
Report Post »sleazyhippo
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:34amIt is interesting that the singular and best-functioning component of American culture is our military component. It is also the most purely socialist segment of our society, in nearly every aspect. There is nothing further distinct from John Galt capitalism than a platoon of deployed soldiers. I think this shows that it is the heart and mission that matter, and not how property ownership is considered, or material wealth.
Report Post »JRserious
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:46amwritten like a person that owns nothing, contributes nothing, aspires to ….nothing.
Report Post »Dale
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:51amsleazyhippo; I think you need an appointment with the general.
Report Post »Evileye
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:01amYour head is screwed on with a left hand tread.
Report Post »The military Is A dictatorship
Do you think you can go on strike or even talk to a general without permission.
You have obviously never been there
SGT. Kurz
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:05amIn the field, you have no wealth.
You are taught to always put “mission first” above all else. Your health, your family, friends, and “personal belongings”.
Now I don’t know about “best-functioning”, but yes our military is the mightiest in the world, albiet not the most efficient…..
Report Post »sleazyhippo
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:07amHere is a challenge to those of us who have done well and prospered from the providence of our economy for the past ten years. I think that if some of our better off patriots, entrepreneurs and investors could join me in a one time payment of $2,000 or more to pay off a few Trillion dollars of the Iraq War debt incurred since 2000; everything would be a little better here, a little less harsh, and a little more optimistic.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:10amYou’re incorrect. Although Soldiers don’t produce a material product, hard work, discipline and leadership produces success on the battlefield which in then end saves lives.
That’s production at a level someone like you would never understand.
Report Post »sdranger
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:18amYes you are right. The haves get to be officers and the have nots get to be enlisted. Everyone gets a chance to move up to a degree, according to how your boss wants you to. Then the guy fixing a leaky faucet gets paid the same as a guy who gets to take the bullet. That would work well for society wouldn’t.
Why is everyone thinking this story even has merit. Because they wrote an article that won an award by a General speaking the truth? Or is it because everyone thinks it is a possibility and happened?
Report Post »noneed4pc
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:21amif you are saying what I read into this…. that any military man puts on his uniform (green) and is there with and for his fellow soldier(s), regaurdless of any of the outer trapping of a life outside of the military, then you are indeed correct… that is the only way a top notch military can operate… when an individual soldier put’s his buddy(s)’ safety and welfare above his own, his very own saftey and welfare will in return have more than just himself to look after it. for any of those that don’t understand this principle, they either have their combat experience limited to the black-op video game and paint ball parlor, or spent your entire tour stateside then tell everyone that you are a ** name the conflict ** war ERA veteran, having never even heard a shot fired in the same zip code.
Report Post »arx
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:27amCan hardly compare what works for a military unit, and what works for an entire society. That said, socialism and the military do have a couple of things in common….very little freedom and a very definite hierarchy of authority. However, one is the result of a choice to serve country, the other forced economic enslavement. I agree that a visit to the general is in order for you sleazy…you need to get your mind right.
Report Post »sleazyhippo
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:30amRLTW, when we refer to socialism; we are not discussing production, but “reward.” By this I mean, the military are paid according to their need and according to their contribution to the society. So, a married private gets more “pay” than a single private and a General officer makes more “pay” than an enlisted non commissioned officer. When deployed In wartime, everyone gets combat pay – not just the heroes. All benefits including food and medical are no cost to the person. Higher rank gets more privileges and requires more responsibility. This all requires non-capitalistic behavior that includes selflessness, devotion to duty, honor and courage. Also military professionals do not let inconveniences stop them from accomplishing a mission the way businessmen do.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:55am@Sleazyhippo
You’re one of those people who believe the Military is filled with automatons, in the service like the civilian sector we can do whatever we want, but you will suffer the consequences of your action.
You can call socialism whatever you want, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s the control of production. I served for 24yrs and can tell you I earned everything I received and in the grand scheme of things my work/contribution was my own.
Report Post »sleazyhippo
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:32pmRLTW – Thank you for your service. I have nothing but pride for my military brothers and sisters.
The recent military is an all volunteer force, NOT automatons, and unfortunately because their own family do not need to serve, some of our leaders keep sending us out – over and over some of us; and I think in the past ten years our casualty rates and wounded rates are higher than they used to be.
The fact is, that living together and fighting together and keeping each other safe does not work if we are selfish. I admire you for your 24 years and you earned your pension and benefits, and I continue to vote for persons who will protect your personal benefits, those of the military branches and the VA in general.
Report Post »TehFreedomist
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:37pmThere it is again… The dumbest propaganda misnomer ever… The MILITARY is NOT socialist AT ALL. I don’t know why this idea is still even floating around. The Military is 100% voluntary for starters… So your theory is awash from the word go. But in case you need another big reason why you can’t say that crap. The military is but a mechanism for society(s). It does not respond to things via the philosophy paradigm. It obeys orders given to it by the society it is comprised from, whether it be Capitalist, Socialist, Communist, Totalitarian and/or any other style of governing i didn’t mention.
Report Post »cromag11b
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:40pmHave much experience in military life?
Report Post »The Army is about as dysfunctional as you can get lately.
RLTW
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:57pm@Sleazyhippo
I do not take deaths or the casualty rate lightly, having only retired 4yrs ago I’ve lost friends like all over the last 10yrs, but as you stated “all volunteer” if a Soldier approaches his carrier/duty/mission with his eyes closed he has no one to blame but him/herself.
I’d be more concerned with the rate of suicides on college campuses during finals week that is a wasted death.
Most soldiers through necessity must rationalize priorities within the frame work of service, the order of that is up to the individual (as in this Generals case) God, country, family, but in the end you fight for the man next to you
Report Post »chazman
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:33amIf this is true then why waste the effort on a pack of brain dead senators! Go after OBAMMY and his administration! That’s how you save your funding, General!
Report Post »Dale
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:49amWhile I disagree with what this general did, his targets certainly need their heads ‘played with’.
Report Post »TehFreedomist
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:26pmI’m with you DALE…
Report Post »G.W. Dobbs
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:53pmObama has already had his “Mental Indoctrination” since birth by all the people with whom he associated; yes, the MUSLIMS got their early shot at him, too, and it is showing up in his declarations and actions. Result: WE GET “FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE” in America as he is “directed” by Sol, et al..
Report Post »zman173rd
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:54pmWhat i find strange..
Report Post »It’s not ILLEGAL,
Just wrong.
He was “reprimanded”.
sleazyhippo
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:32amThe US military is the best of any in the known universe.
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:37amus army cell.? poor choice of words. what type of psych ops were used? find this story as a distractor to what is going on in world.did they use secret vulcan mind control techniques? would like to know specifics.
Report Post »Deutscher
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:48amI would put it to you that the universe is a big place , and being good at your job does not always make you right.
Report Post »cnsrvtvj
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:55amYes they are Sleazyhippo. This is kind of scary though if it is true. I certainly don’t want to see the military being used against the American people.
http://www.donsmithshow.com – conservative news and political humor
Report Post »Conserving Ink
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:56amThe Progressives have been PsyOping us for years. I’d think that turn around was fair play.
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arx
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:16amWe ought to send all democrat senators and congressman for psyop exposure. Whisper in their ear “read and obey the constitution”. Common sense and loyalty to one‘s country isn’t cutting it.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:03pmThe US military indeed is the best around, yet when doing something is wrong or illegal it is still doing a wrong action; and commiting psy ops upon national senators who are also citizens of the land is wrong, and morally reprehensible.
Report Post »Creestof
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:11pmWhat happened to the days when they just provided senators with teenage hookers, booze and drugs? You kids of today with your new math…lol!
Report Post »warrior21
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:14pmMight be true, but I doubt it. In case you haven’t noticed we are losing the war in Afghanistan and regardless of what BO saids we have lost it in Iraq. Lt. Colonel Michael Holmes says, “My job in psy-ops is to play with people’s heads, to get the enemy to behave the way we want them to behave,” he has failed there. The enemy is not behaving the way we want! Got to be a lot of changes in the Executive -BO-, and at the top end of the Pentagon, -Mulligan- and then we might see some progress.
Report Post »bertr
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:52pmThere’s nothing american about doing that if they did, but at the same time its one of those accusations you make and and rather it turns out to be true or not people will believe it
Report Post »leftiesaredangerous
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 1:03pmWell, then at least Al Franken would have something in his mind.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 1:27pmRegarding the influence of Senators, the military calls it psy-ops. The civilian word is lobbying.
Report Post »tom
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 1:46pmWhat wasn’t reported was that the operations failed. In order to influence the mind of a subject in IO, the subject must have one.
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 3:21pmThe General ordered Inception on those Senators. We’re all dreaming.
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 3:28pm@STAVY
The only way to win the war in Afghanistan is to carpet bomb every inch of that country consistently or X amount of days until there is not a single goat is left breathing. Until that is an option that our Government is willing to use, there is no winning in Afghanistan. What’s there to win? If you leave just TWO Afghans in that country, they’ll create offspring that will eventually HATE America for killing 99.9% of their country and we’re to square one.
I am not advocating nuking the country of Afghanistan. I want all our troops home yesterday. I’m just giving you the only real option to win this war. More troops won’t cut it. Russia had what? 100,000 troops at the peak and they didn’t have an ROE, they just went in shoot to kill, and they still couldn’t “WIN”. Regardless of us helping the Afghans. Ruthless slaughter of the Afghans will be the only way to win this war.
Most of you would love for that option to be a reality though. Genocide is an option if it means getting rid of the scary Muslims. Regardless of how evil you believe the Muslims are, America is suppose to be better than that.
Report Post »Khthulhu
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 4:04pmYou see. I psy-ops’ed you to say that. hen you recover, you’ll feel mildly sleepy and relaxed.
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 4:17pm@cnsrvtvj
Report Post »“Yes they are Sleazyhippo. This is kind of scary though if it is true. I certainly don’t want to see the military being used against the American people.”
WACO, RUBY RIDGE
Sinista Mace
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 4:40pmThat’s why our own government used psy-ops on the Tucson Shooter, Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, and generally every single false-flag terror incident after and including the 9-11 inside job.
Not to mention Lee Harvey Oswald and James Earl Ray.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 5:22pmI think they have been targeting Charlie Sheen he is waked out
Report Post »http://www.infowars.com/
BonnieBlueFlag
Posted on February 25, 2011 at 12:33amThis MKULTRA cr@p is antithesis to the U.S. constitution. Shame on anyone who defends it.
When the government (in this case US military) uses military tactics on its own people- including their elected representatives- you are in Tiananmen Square. It’s over. Nothing left to defend. Dissolve it and start over; unless of course their is swift justice and the general is hanged.
If this is allowed to “slide” the constitution stands for nothing.
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