As Many States Face Critical Pension Battles, Maine Fights a Dessert War
- Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:07pm by
Mike Opelka
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Here is yet another fine example of elected officials using taxpayer-funded time in a questionable manner. The state of Maine is currently embroiled in a debate over which delicious treat, the blueberry pie or the whoopie pie, should be designated the official state dessert.
State pride is important to many people, but there is a point at which one must wonder if naming state fruits, vegetables and desserts is really vital legislative work? That argument will have to wait as the battle lines have been drawn in Maine. One might think the choice could be handled easily by a simple popular vote, a dessert referendum. Not so, there are many tangled issues here.
Team “Blueberry Pie” wants everyone to know that Maine (like many states) has an obesity problem, which will only worsen by awarding the official dessert status to Whoopie Pies. State Representative Donald Pilon framed his argument thusly;
“At a time when 31.3 percent of Maine’s children are considered overweight or obese, do we want to glorify a dessert that lists lard as its primary ingredient?’’
Mr. Pilon sees wild blueberry pie as a healthier alternative to the lard-loaded whoopie pies he once referred to as “a frosting delivery vehicle.” He may also be motivated by money as it must be noted that the blueberry industry generates an estimated $250 million dollars annually for Maine’s economy.
Lest you think this fight is only being waged in the State house, think again. Some 4th grade school children have chimed in, sending a letter hoping that the blueberry pie will win on a technicality as they see the whoopie pie farther down the food chain, calling it a “snack” and not a full fledged dessert.
Across the aisle, Team Whoopie Pie is hopeful of claiming the title of State Dessert. And concerning the “snack” allegations leveled by the 4th graders, The Maine Whoopie Pie Association begs to differ. Amos Orcutt, the brains behind the MWPA and also the push to name their pies as the state dessert has been beating the bushes at the Capital for almost a year now and he too claims that the youth and the economy both favor the whoopie pies made by the 60+ Maine bakeries that are part of his organization.
Also looming on the sidelines is a potential battle with the State of Pennsylvania over which state can lay claim to the creation of the whoopie pie. In late January the Patriot-News caught wind of the dessert wars in Maine and challenged their state’s new governor to step up and protect what they claim was originated in the kitchens of Lancaster, PA. The editorial closes with this argument;
The bottom line is this: The whoopie pie could be the slippery slope. Pennsylvania must show other states they can’t mess with our fatty foods. If we don’t, what’s to stop New Mexico from making the cheesesteak its official sandwich or Idaho from snatching up all the glory from scrapple?
Perhaps there is a “teachable moment” in all of this.
While researching the background information on the piece, it became rather evident that Maine was not alone in this propensity. A quick survey of foods that have received official designations as “State” foods yields a bountiful harvest, some are quite curious;
The State of Oklahoma lists 13 different foods on their State Food chart, including watermelon as the official state vegetable. (If you are confused by the veggie designation, Oklahoma is correct – watermelon is a member of the cucumber and squash family.)
California, a state often seen as filled with senseless bureaucratic structures has not one.
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Comments (113)
UpstateNYConservative
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 6:52pm@Happy Killmore
You used the word ‘fruit’. And you used caps for it.
What are you–anti-gay?
Sure–you’ll say you were talking about a plant. But your hateful use of caps of the word is surely code to display your secret bigotry. Sure, too–you didn’t say it outright, but we KNOW what you meant. Nothing gets past us!
Regards,
The Left
total /sarc here
Report Post »Happy Killmore
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 7:27pmJust adding to the hate filled rhetoric from the right. I don’t like seeing my watermelons maligned as being vegetables. Besides, isn’t it not PC to use the term “vegetable” after Terry Schiavo?
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 7:38pm@Happy Killmore
Touche!
*LMBO*
Report Post »omni
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 6:52pmThe Whoopi pie proposal is the focus of one state representative with too much time on his hands. On a broader scale, Gov. LePage has vowed to represent all the people by fostering measures that will improve the business climate and streamline government. Key elements include:
Report Post »1. Mitigating the impact of special interests; teachers unions, minority lobbys, welfare lobbys. etc.
2. Changing embedded laws that restrict business
3. Streamlining the business approval process
4. Eliminatring government progrrams that don’t work
5. Reducing staff where there is no demonstrated need and no legitimate alternative openings
Gov. LePage and conservative Republicans in Maine are committed to shedding the mantle of being judged dead last in business climate. Maine is on a clear path to correct 40 years of Democrat excess. Wish us luck.
Happy Killmore
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 6:28pmWatermelon is a FRUIT!!! Anything with seeds is a FRUIT!!! That’s why tomatoes are FRUIT!!! To be a vegetable it needs to be from the plant’s roots, stem, or leaves.
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 8:35pmso are you saying cucumbers and squash is a fruit as well?
Report Post »skyaky
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 6:20pmThis should not be a contest, as someone who grew up in Amish country eating gobbs (A.K.A. Whoopie Pies), I can attest to their superiority in regards to all other desserts. Problem solved, money saved.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 6:13pmFor fun, how about somebody toss in a third option…?
Report Post »lillianrose
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 6:11amI say aim for Pork Pie! No- wait- that should be a target goal for DC. Oh- shoot! Can’t do that – it’s not allowed when facing east.
Report Post »stitchak
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 5:56pmHands down – Blueberry Pie.
Report Post »meddlehead
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 5:52pmShockingly thse are the peoplke that re-elct Collins and Snow on a regular basis. I would however like a Whoopie Pie recipe.
Report Post »skyaky
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 6:24pmhttp://whatscookingamerica.net/History/WhoopiePieHistory.htm
I would suggest going with the Amish “gob”
Report Post »jetmech568
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 6:44pmThose look gooooooooooood!!
Report Post »The whoopie pie for sure
Thanks SKYAKY
Diamond Girl
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 5:52pmThe only ‘Dessert’ I care about when it comes to Maine is getting rid of the Boobsie Twins Collins & Snowe for some real conservatives when the time comes.
Of course this whole bunch of BS is a waste of $$ and time…typical leftist agenda…pathetic priorities.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 5:44pmIf they have an overweight problem then maybe they should start eating carrot cake. Works for me.
Report Post »mossbrain
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 5:36pmI’ve never even heard of a whoopie pie. I thought it was something that hit the ground after hearing the sound of a whoopie cushion. They should get a state gun like Utah. Around here elderberries make a nice pie.
Report Post »Buck_Turgidson
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 5:17pmBiologically, there is no such thing as “vegetable”. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetable
Anyway, everyone knows that you don’t eat cold vegetables on a hot summer day…
Report Post »DanSt
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 5:11pmAs the world crumbles around them, the Mainiacs most pressing issue is this? Is it any wonder why they continue to re-elect Snow and Collins?
Report Post »ebaytoad
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 5:00pmNature has a way to weed out the idiots…I will have a whoopie pie and enjoy the calories, in case of famine that the left will embrace, I will live on my fat cells….LOLOLOLOL I make my own pies, let them come and beg for a piece!!! FREAKIN’ IDIOTS
Report Post »daddy warbucks
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:43pmthis is the kind of crap they want us to spend time arguing about.
Sens. Joe Liebermann (I-Conn.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) are working hard to give the president the power to shut off the internet in the event of a ‘cyber emergency’, to ‘keep us safe’.
They are getting close to doing it.
Stay on point folks to what is important, contact your reps and let them know it
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 5:07pmI know of this bill, and the fact it is not allowed to be constested in the courts along with handing all the power in the office of the President and the Homeland Security at the POTUS directions without any oversight and restraint is oppression awaiting the first tyrant to deploy it.
What so many people are not understanding is this “kill switch” can be used selectively, and recall that the HSA has already seized a number of web sights without benefit of a due process in the courts – so a precidence has been set, criminal though it is.
Individual businesses, towns, counties, and single people can be victimized by the POTUS whoever it is sitting there.
I have read the proposed legislation, and it is a final nightmare.
Report Post »awizard
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:30pm“This” is what they spend time on?.. oh well, since they‘re workin’ on it …
I vote for the Whoopie pie … it goes well with the Rino‘s they have runnin’ around up there … and it’ll fit right in when they list the “Legislative accomplishments” for the year, the whole state is a joke.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:25pmIronic! Was cleaning out some stuff and ran across a column I’d written in 2005 about how I grew up as a skinny kid, how my daddy told me to walk instead of running (and on until he said for me to lie down when I could sit), and how today (then) my lifestyle was not conducive to regular meals and exercise. I had to lose “10 pounds of awesomeness!” (Had to laugh at that.)
Everything on the list given in the column of what not to eat — my favorites today. I did get those ten pounds off, but they’re baaaaaaack! It‘s a good thing I’m not a dessert person. They would put me in a gym for sure! I’m not aware of a State Dessert, unless it’s a fresh peach! (Not peanuts — we’re a Republican state!)
Report Post »aLinedog
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 7:19pm“I could eat a peach for hours.” -Castor Troy
Report Post »I just couldn’t resist.
UpstateNYConservative
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:21pmI say to put those 4th Grade kids in charge of the state. At least they know what’s really important for them to do!
Report Post »VerySeniorCitizen
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 10:20amWe already DID put those 4th grade kinds in charge.
We have a Tea Party Governor and a largely Tea Party legislature. And those who aren’t Tea Party members are Republicans.
Feel better now???
Report Post »LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:21pmMaine is a large producer of Blueberry‘s so I’m going with Blueberry Pie
and cuzzz i don‘t think they grow many whoopie’s
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 6:19pmI agree. I get them when I go up to MDI to see my kids.
Report Post »Can you believe it? Those stupid, PC twits are squirming over what damn dessert to choose. Go with the berries, you nitwits! No one is being forced to actually eat the damn thing.
what4
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 10:26pmLooks to me like the Whoopie Pie maker in the photo eats 1 for every 2 she makes!
Report Post »aLinedog
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:18pm“California, a state often seen as filled with senseless bureaucratic structures has not one.”
Report Post »They’re too busy trying to find ways to bilk the other 49 states out of cash to pay for all of those free services for their citizens.
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cheezwhiz
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:26pmThey’re too busy trying to find ways to bilk the other 49 states out of cash to pay for all of those free services for their citizens.
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They’re too busy trying to find ways to bilk the other 49 states out of cash to pay for all of those free services for their mexican citizens.
roxee
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:18pmPlease ,pass me a can of Whoop Azz for Maine!
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 6:13pmRoxee,
Report Post »My oldest daughter lives in Maine, and she wants to whoop some ass, for sure. She was happy that LePage got elected Gov, but wants those two totally useless Rino Senators ‘outta here’, as she says. She just can’t figure how people who apparently like their independence (they live in Maine, remember) could be so stupid. I tell her that they’ll wake up when it gets close to them. She says she doesn’t have all that much faith in her fellow Mainers.
TruthTalker
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:17pmA very serious subject!
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 6:38pmI agree. I’m done making jokes about the major dilemma Maine finds themselves in. What can we do to help? I dunno. Maybe the Whoppie top and bottom with blueberries in the middle. You save the fat in the pie crust.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:15pmAdd your comments
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:29pmI figured out how that happens, and I owe somebody an apology!
Report Post »Usually, clicking “Reply” opens the reply box. “Send” or “Submit” sends it.
(”And when we are wrong, promptly admitting it…”)
I’m sorry, whoever it was.
LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:32pm(”And when we are wrong, promptly admitting it…”)
God i wish our Politicians would go to some meetings
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:44pm@Showtime
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:29pm
(”And when we are wrong, promptly admitting it…”)
________
Yeah, right. Try getting a liberal to do that about another lib, let alone him/her own self!
(I think I’m in a bad mood today, so I’m picking it out on liberals…not for any reason except the facts they’re liberals, I revile them, and I’m in a bad mood *LMBO*)
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 5:24pm@UpstateNYconservative…
You make an interesting point Showtime made a legitimate mistake and owned up to it; while the majority of progressives and liberals seem to prefer the “Blame (insert conveinent enemy of the day)” for their problems in life.
I do not care if someone is my worse, most vocal opponent, if they are able to admit to being wrong at the times they are, I can respect them more than someone who claims to be on my side who is not open to the possiblility of being “wrong on anything.”
Thank you for the post, it brings up some interesting debate and discussion where I live at.
And mind you, I have three die hard fanatic progressives to deal with who share the usage of the computer lab during the day.
I wonder how they will like the new wallpaper on the monitors, that is a screenshot of Glenn Beck and his show.
It should be worth the screaming I am anticipating will come about soon.
And I should some good, clean, non violent, fun once in awhile afterall?
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 5:50pm@Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
You’re a lot nicer than I am! The things I‘d like seeing done to liberals are so ungodly they’d be legendary even in Hell.
I don’t need any apologies from liberals. I’d be happy with just a reasoned debate on a topic, without the usual invocations of Palin, Beck, I’m-a-Nazi, etc.
I went to lunch with my son, and we were talking about politics and such. He said one thing that I found funny: At a bottom corner of every TV broadcast of news and politics, there should be a little naysayer. For example:
Chris Matthews: Palin is a Nazi
Naysayer: No, she’s not
Or,
Olbermann: Reagan caused the AIDS epidemic!
Naysayer: No, he didn’t
Or,
Algore: Global warming is settled science!
Naysayer: No, it’s not.
And so forth…
I refuse to use the P-word that libs call themselves these days. Going by those lefties who post here, not to mention those I have encountered for decades, not a one of them has anything new about them. They parrot the same lines, use the same terms, ignore facts and details that are right before their eyes from sources other than those they hate, hate on us while claiming they’re not hateful…Well, you see it all, too, every day. Liberals are so messed up they’d complain about Sarah Palin using the commode. You know–”Does Palin REALLY have to use the bathroom five times a day when we really need to be conserving water?”
And libs actually take themselves THAT seriously! They actually think themselves so ‘correct’ they have backed to the hilt a man who killed a girl, and another guy who was a recruiter for the KKK (Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd, respectively).
I hate liberals, though I know it’s not right. And I make no bones about it. I give up trying to get them to see beyond what they claim; they don’t want it. C’est la vie!
I think it was Churchill who said, “Every dog has its day, and some days are longer than others.”
Stay frosty! No one, not ever, can take your heart.
Report Post »bullcrapbuster
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:15pmIt will all work out for the best. They have the best minds in the state on it.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 6:02pmVery Funny! Understated humor is always funny.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:14pmHow about the real taste of America “ Back to FREEDOM again ”
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:26pmThat has the sweetest taste of all!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 5:18pmAmen!!!
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:14pmLet them eat cake!
Report Post »cnsrvtvj
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:16pmThe classic line….let them eat cake. I vote for the whoopie pie. This is what becomes of prolonged liberalism. I can see Michelle right now having a fit over this one. It sure sounds like the state of Maine has a serious problem prioritizing. It will be interesting to see how these states deal with the unions on the deficit problems. It will definitely get ugly when they start talking about renegotiating contracts.
http://www.donsmithshow.com – see the union tactics video
Report Post »REDPILLREADY
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:22pmIsn‘t the word of the times ’comprimise’ – a little blueberry, chocolate and lard – Bluepie pies! Problem solved.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:22pmI wonder .. if you make the blueberry pie with a lard 2 crust top and bottom) and lots of sugar .. is it really any healthier than the whoopie pie? .. I would bet not .. chocolate is good for you too don’t forget!
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:26pmWhoopie Pie is like a big soft…….OREO…oooooops racist !!
Report Post »Xcori8r
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:31pmThere must be something loopy in the food up there. These are the people that have inflicted Collins and Snowe on the Senate and the rest of us.
CatB
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:42pmOnce again proving progressives are stupid (not HARD!) … Whoopie Pie calorie count 365 …. Marie Callender 1/5 of Blueberry Pie count 884! 513 from FAT!
http://www.livestrong.com/thedailyplate/nutrition-calories/food/generic/whoopie-pies/
http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-marie-callenders-blueberry-pie-i113721
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:48pmI want one of those pies, I guess the Homer Simpson in me is coming out. Maine should change their motto, “Come for the pensions, stay for the pie”.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:53pmLet them eat whatever they want and add more exercise to the school curriculum. Running/jogging/walking for 30 mins a day would probably help with behavioral problems too.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 4:57pm@CatB
Report Post »Now I have to go to Maine this summer, Lobster, Chowder, and a big piece of Pie, and I won’t have to run an extra 2 miles to burn it off. 365 calories is less than a pack of twinkies.
Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 5:03pm@Grandmaof5
Agreed, these states are getting out of control and mega intrusive into individuals lives along the lines of the fed’s now; how far are the people going to let this spin out of control until we say enough is enough and work on stopping them via the courts and voting booths?
A healthy dosage of exercise and fun play time away from the video games would not hurt kids, but now with the PC garbage going on from DC, even sports are no longer allowed to be fun or competative in nature, and lawsuit happy parents and lifesucking leeches of lawyerville are everywhere to make a fast buck from the first trouble to occur.
God help us to sort out this mess and start afresh as we can.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 5:32pmWonder what’s going to happen when hyperinflation hits and they only have Lobster to eat?…and that’s if they go swimming for it…
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 5:42pmLets have Moochelle decide this dispute, afterall its for the state thats supplies her fav food : lobster
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 6:00pmREDPILLREADY….. That is funny!
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 6:01pmLePage has his work cut out for him! Good luck, gov!
Report Post »Cobra Blue
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 6:12pmForm over substance once again.,..just let the chaos and confusion start and heaven forbid there be any food shortages and see how long they fuse over the use of a little lard. When times get tough, all the stupidity goes out the window in the name of survival…Evven the tree hugging liberals will gladly settle for a lard laced pie if they get hungry enough. Reason being we all know its never about obesity or healthy eating….just plain ole control of the Sheeple.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 6:26pmCake is good, showtime.
Report Post »I think a rich Carrot cake is best. Lots of moist cake drenched in thick icing made of cream cheese, confectioners sugar, and butter. You can top it off with healthy Pecans. They’re very good for you.
Just try’in to help out. See ya!
chuck
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 7:08pmBahh! The irony is striking, lovely place!
Report Post »ironcowboy
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 8:32pmI made so much woopie pie that I got blue berries!
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 8:42pmironcowboy
I made so much woopie pie that I got blue berries!
Report Post »———-
Braggin r u ?
:D
Shoot-To-Kill
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 9:25pmOMG! Does Muchelle Obutta know all those people are eating all that bad stuff?
Report Post »watchmany2k
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 9:57pmThis is what we Maineacs call “Live Entertainment”
The legislature is not spending an inordinate amount of time on this,
it’s all the different groups makin a fuss.
Flatlander comes into the general store, an picks up a whoopie pie an hands his dollah to the cashier.
(see them whoopie pies are at EVERY general stoah counter, and bring in a hefty cash flow)
When he see‘s he’s not gettin change back he asks:
“you folks have any ”Live Entertainment“ around here ” ?
Wilbur the cashier looks at Vern, Vern Shrugs, and Wilbur looks back to the flatlander:
“We do now….”
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 10:22pmI can end the debate. in Maine for a few months of the year. Both are the official Maine desserts, it depends on your mood.
Report Post »watchmany2k
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 10:44pmI guess what I mean to say is,
Report Post »some of the Blaze comments on this non-subject is like
watchin a flatlander get his first taste of Moxie..
(which goes good with Whoopie pies dontcha know)
Moxie is a “soft drink” that tastes sorta like cofee flavored, carbonated Batt-tree acid,
with an aftertaste of all the bitter vegetables you can remember, sorta like the comments here.
Made for sippin not gulpin
Thanks for the “Live Entertainment”
All you flatlanders don’t strain yer backs shovelin this latest round of global warmin
we got us a ways to go ’till July….
Stay happy.
DogTags
Posted on February 5, 2011 at 11:35pmI vote for the Whoopie Pie!
Report Post »sbenard
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 12:18amIs that Michelle Antoinette?
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 12:29amThere is NO FRIKKIN WAY 31% of children are obese or overweight.
I have 3 school age children and I see their entire school enrollment on a weekly, if not daily basis and a small, VERY SMALL handful of their 700 kids could be described as overweight or obese.
I don’t know where these stats are coming from, but in Texas, I call BS!!
Report Post »THIS GENERATION
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:44amA dessert for California: The ‘fruit cake’ with lots of ‘nuts’.
Report Post »CaptainKook
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:06amMaine used to be part of Messachusetts so what can you Expect! They don’t call them Mainiacs for Nothing!
Report Post »Rice Water
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 2:50pmWhoopie Pie, hands down. Especially when you mix some chocolate chips into the filling. Blueberry pie? WHOberry pie?
Report Post »psycodad36
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 7:54pmdoesn’t desert have only 1 s in it?.or are they having a dessert war aka Iraq?
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