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Asking For I.D. Before Voting Is ‘Racist’, But You Need A Govt. I.D. To Buy Drain Cleaner?

Got a clogged drain? Before you can buy that liquid drain cleaner, I need to see some ID.

Want To Buy Drano? I Need To See Some ID Please...

Does that sound like a joke?

It’s not a joke. It‘s the reality in President Obama’s home state.

Illinois has a new law that took effect on January 1 requiring all people who purchase drain cleaners or any caustic substances to provide a government issued photo ID. And retailers now must ask for identification from those buying drain cleaners and maintain extensive records of which caustic products have been purchased, in what amounts, and by whom.

The law came about after two Illinois women were burned by acid attacks back in 2008. One of the women later admitted to burning herself with acid, but the law was still pushed through the system.  (Updated information has been added below.)

And so, because of one random crime where acid was used to burn a victim, thousands of people will be forced to show identification when they purchase drain cleaners, and countless hours of business time will be spent filling out, maintaining and monitoring the government mandated forms associated with each purchase. Additionally, any person carrying caustic chemicals can be charged with a Class 4 felony in Illinois. (Class 4 felonies can carry fines up to $25,000 and 1-3 years in jail.)

The Illinois drain cleaner law is just one of the 40,000 new laws that took effect in the new year. For the record, the 40,000 new laws are a 29% increase over the previous year.

Among the mass of new laws are a few that are intended to strengthen election security and protect the integrity of each vote in the upcoming elections by demanding that all voters show a photo ID before entering the voting booth. The Wall Street Journal covered this story as 2011 came to a close…

Kansas, Rhode Island, Tennessee and Texas will require voters to prove their identities at the ballot box, bringing the total number of states that require some form of voter identification to 30…

Want To Buy Drano? I Need To See Some ID Please...

MSNBC has covered the topic of the new laws and specifically the voter ID laws, starting in July of 2011.

The voter suppression issue was also part of MSNBC’s review of the 40,000 new laws of 2012.

If it is considered “racist” or “discrimination” to ask a voter for a photo ID before they are allowed to cast a ballot, why is it not racist to ask for a government issued ID card when you want to buy drain cleaner or pay for your gasoline with cash?

Feel free to take our poll on this subject and submit your own question on the topic.


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For the record, here is the full segment of Pete Williams talking about the 40,000 new laws taking effect in 2012.

 

Update – The Illinois legislation was specifically inspired by two local women who were victims of acid attacks. Esperanza Mendoza and Karli Butler were seriously burned in separate and unrelated attacks using caustic chemicals. The earlier mention of a woman who was burned by acid and then admitted to faking the attack was a reference to Bethany Storro’s story. Ms. Storro is a Washington state resident who became national news after burning her face with acid and claiming she was attacked.

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  • MeteoricLimbo
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:52pm

    Those silly Lib’s. They project like a Bell & Howell

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    • IMPEACHBHO
      Posted on January 9, 2012 at 12:19pm

      It is about integrity. Without ID, voter fraud is pretty simple. Wonder why Holder & BHO is against it? Hmmmm…Sorry, only American citizens are allowed to vote, and if you are an American citizen, you have an ID or can easily get one.
      http://youtu.be/7kqVZUCRth0?t=16m44s

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    • Yeah_Buddy
      Posted on January 9, 2012 at 1:05pm

      I wonder if they accept mexican id cards to buy draino? I’m sure they do since it would be discrimination against illegal alien contractors.

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  • EqualJustice
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:51pm

    You need an ID to buy Allegra D at the drug store! The gov’t keep records of ALL sales….. please. It’s just a wayfor the libs to continue CHEATING!

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    • MeteoricLimbo
      Posted on January 7, 2012 at 11:15pm

      ya think?

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on January 7, 2012 at 11:19pm

      Checking Constitution for right to vote…check, right to buy Allegra……..hmmm.

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    • KICKILLEGALSOUT
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:11am

      This is the most racist administration ever. Eric Holder should have already been thrown in jail for his crimes. He pardoned Puerto Rican terrorists, he pardoned billionaire frauds, dropped blatant voter intimidation cases because they were black, he is accessory to the murder of one of our border patrol agents, and responsible for guns getting into the hands of drug cartels trying to frame Americans, he sues our states over immigration laws which the feds refuse to enforce, they sue our states over voter id laws even though you need an id to do almost anything in this country. Where are the checks and balances in this country to bring this animal to justice?

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:17am

      @EXREP

      Sure you want to go there?

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    • mastice
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:25am

      @exrepub

      You do have a point – but where does it say in the Constitution that you must present a photo ID to conduct business, purchase certain products, and travel? I understand that what I listed are not rights.

      I also understand that, considering you can get a non-drivers photo ID for next to nothing in cost, that asking someone to prove who they are before they vote is not racist or discriminating towards anyone based on financial status. (if anything it helps prevent fraud – and before anyone tackles me on ‘personal responsibility’ I’ll stop you right now and say that I would love it if everyone was honest and responsible… but the reality is that not everyone is, sad fact of life)

      I would wager that over 90% of the legal residents in this country already have some form of photo identification… current or outdated …so why is it so hard to pull it out of your wallet and prove who you are? You do it when you buy a pack of cigarettes or gamble… why not when voting?

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    • mastice
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:28am

      @Therightsofbilly

      No kidding! Libs will jump at a chance to ‘save your rights’ when it is in their favor, like voter fraud. But when it comes to… oh, say, the unconstitutional Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (obamacare) they are all ‘mum’ over the rights of citizens.

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    • PRRedlin
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:34am

      Mastice, The constitution only presents the laws and limits of the government. Free enterprise and business are allowed to make their own rules. Remember, the constitution protects your rights with the government, not with a private company or individual.

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    • PRRedlin
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:35am

      Mastice,

      Furthermore, unless the identification card is 100% free, including delivery to the citizen, then ANY fee, even one cent could be considered a Poll tax if said ID is required for voting. This is illegal and IS in the constitution.

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    • jonnyfontain
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:40am

      stupid liberals, the only reason they don’t want i.d.‘s is because then they can’t win the election or congressional districts. They only want to enslave the minorities in this country with freebees so the people wont help themselves and become successful, they will just live off the government which is what the democrats want. Their morons.

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    • jzs
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:40am

      You don’t need an ID to vote in the Republican primaries. If Romney wins the nomination, there’s no question that it was because of illegal Mexicans and others ineligible people voting for him. What other proof do you need???

      Personally I think that the Republican nomination process is open to serious fraudulent practices which basically allow the nominee with the most money to buy the election all because there is no government issued ID required to vote. The only way to prevent a rich candidate from fraudulently steal an election is to require IDs.

      Okay, so who has the most money? Romney right? And no requirement for an ID to vote in the primaries? Ergo, Romney will the next Republican nominee. He’s the only candidate in a position to buy those votes he needs from illegal aliens, dead people etc.

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    • mastice
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:48am

      @PRRedlin

      I would agree at the poll tax – then make the IDs free. (I know, we are supposed to be downsizing the government … but don‘t you think it’s a little upside down when we fund research to kill people but don’t protect our voting system/rights? Maybe we should re-think our priorities a bit?)

      As for your comment on businesses making their own rules you are correct, but what I was referencing are LAWS passed by the government requiring you to present photo identification to do certain things. Like conduct business or travel (unless you want to walk). Age restricted products are not restricted based on what any business says, it’s what the government says, as stated in this article on buying Drano.

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    • mastice
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:52am

      @jzs

      I’m so glad you are still chiming in… you add that nice little touch of ‘what the heck did you just say’ bit of insanity to the mix. (:

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    • PRRedlin
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:56am

      Mastice,

      I see we are having some common ground, as I do feel that these ID’s should be free.

      I then ask you only this. Lets say you go to vote and you left your ID at home, but the polls are closing soon. Upon entering the polling place you are asked to show identification, but since you do not have it on you, you can not. They then do not let you vote. You have just been stripped of your right to vote because of a government regulation, thus negating your constitutional right. That is what makes legislation like this wrong.

      You may say “well I deserve it if I forget”, or “I won’t forget”. But that is besides the point. You, or anyone else who is a legal citizen has now had a right taken away from them. Anyone who holds any value in the constitution and citizen rights should be and must be against such legislation.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:11am

      “Asking a question requires an Urtak account.” That sucks big time. Why would I want to be tracked by Urtak? Sorry Blaze, I’m not signing up for Urtak. My question was, “Do you think Presidet Obama should be Impeached for treason?”

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:17am

      @PRREDLIN

      I see you rambling on about private organizations. That’s fine.

      What that Constitutional Right to bear arms I’ve heard tell about?

      How do you define “infringe”?

      And as for your Poll Tax argument, no problem.

      The actual amount of citizens that care to vote, that do not have a valid ID is very small.

      And I, for one would be MORE than willing to pay an additional tax that would be earmarked for the sole purpose of providing those folks with said ID.

      That would be a tax worth paying.

      Very small price to pay for protecting the sanctity of our vote.

      Really, all that would be needed is to de-fund one turtle tunnel in FL, and that would cover the expense.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:20am

      PRREDLIN

      With early voting as we have it, and you wait until the last minute, and you also forget your ID?

      Then you are too stupid to vote. Go home and play Saulitare.

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    • His_Way
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:21am

      On Dec 19 on International Human Rights Day, The National Council of La Raza protested in NYC “the rise of voter suppression laws all across the country” calling “on our national government to ensure that we do not allow the proponents of these measures” that “suppress minority voting rights.” Here in CA is seems La Raza is now running the show and we’re paying the price.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:23am

      And your right was not taken away, you forfeited it.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:37pm

      @EXREPSHEEP

      Chirp…..chirp……..chirp

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    • Bum thrower
      Posted on January 9, 2012 at 10:49am

      Tell the minorities that they don’t need an ID to vote if they will pour drain cleaner down their throats before voting……………in the presence of the election judge…..gotcha

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on January 9, 2012 at 11:14am

      VOTER SUPPRESSION is such a CROCK coming from NAACP and this administration! It does say in the CONSTITUTION that you must be a U.S CITIZEN to vote… not just a RESIDENT. ANYONE who lives in this coutnry has SOME form of ID already. NOT A BIG deal to PROVE you are LEGAL TO VOTE! It’s not a RIGHT to vote, it’s a PRIVILEGE of CITIZENSHIP. Foreign nationals HAVE NO RIGHTS OR SAY in US government or policy. PERIOD!

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    • PRRedlin
      Posted on January 9, 2012 at 7:22pm

      You have to be a troll.

      Saulitare?!?! And you call me stupid in the same sentence.

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  • MCDAVE
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:48pm

    Its the 40000 new laws that scare me..Congress can’t agree to reduce government spending one dime,but they can create 40000 new laws…They are going to take all of our freedoms…

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    • SAM1234
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:21am

      Those 40,000 new laws are a total of the new laws – state and federal – going into effect this year. It’s not just Congress.

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    • charleyrocks
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 4:25am

      In Canada everyone has to have ID to vote. That keeps it clean and honest. It is surprising that the untied states is way behind on that law. The current president got voted in by voter fraud, so every state should have that law.

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 4:54am

      I hope they defined “caustic” very specifically! “anything that causes corrosion” is pretty vague, as is “anything that causes damage to living tissue.”

      As water is the universal solvent, and as pH is all over the place in household cleaners, paint supplies, even food pH is all over the map.

      CARRYING it can land you in jail?

      So, bringing home the groceries or coming back from home depot can land you in jail????

      Surely there must be more specific information available.

      …bunch of RACISTS! LOL
      (more like fascist dictators!)

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    • old white guy
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 7:27am

      freedom. guess what kids, you don’t have it and it will require force to get it back not votes.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 7:39am

      The Corporation of the United States ( Est. 1871, Head office – Washington D.C.) has rules and regulations.
      The States are now their smaller subsidiaries.

      They have ruled in my local county that if you paint a fence or put in a mailbox for a neoghbor and accept any money, that you are deemed a ‘Contractor“ and can be jailed for up to a year for ”Contracting without a license”. The Person hiring the “Contractor” can be fined up to $5000.

      They (the UN) will do whatever they choose, regardless of the will of the people.
      You people actually think you still have a representative republic.
      I told you people so many times that the Federal Reserve Bank seized our Country in 1933 (Emergency Banking Act), under a International U.C.C. Lien, due to the Default of the 1913 Loan. (the federal reserve act)
      The “United States” is now owned by the United Nations (IMF/World bank – Bretton Woods Treaty 1944).
      Do your Research… or call me a conspiracy nut !!!!!

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    • bmwrider
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 8:01am

      Voter ID laws were designed by republican legislatures in order to prevent black people, many of whom lack photo ids, from voting. That is how it is racist.

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    • Jackers
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 8:40am

      Only in America would we have a “Justice” Department suing a state for trying to uphold the integrity of the vote by reducing fraud.

      Only in America would we have a “Justice” Department suing a state for trying to enforce immigration laws, that the Federal Government refuses to enforce, in order to uphold the rule of law and protect its citizens from invasion.

      Whose side is this government on? Does our government represent the majority will and safety of the American people? Do our members of Congress uphold their oaths to the Constitution and the rule of law? Do we still have a Representative Republic?

      Bottom up, Top down, we’re being squeezed left and right…

      A nation without laws and without borders is not a nation at all…

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    • HKS
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 8:48am

      Well, I guess you really don’t need much of an ID even running for President. That’t been done already.

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 8:56am

      Can anyone help that the Majority of democratic voters are degenerates ? TOO BAD ISN’T IT ? That’s right, no you can’t use a dead persons ID to vote for your own demise, idiot ………..No you can’t use mickey mouses name ( because it’s so cute) to vote for your own demise..
      No you can’t double or triple vote with the same name different birth date for your own demise…
      This is the best law to pass in a long time.. I’m happy people are starting to wake up..
      Now we need ALL 57 states to comply..

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    • rrjenn
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:25am

      Yes, they will take all your freedoms except for your right to freely climb into the government provided cage they have planned for you. Please close the lock on your way in sir.

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    • TH30PH1LUS
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:40am

      There are more than 800 MILLION active users on Facebook – which is for the most part requires at least one photo. And we ALL know people who literally post there entire lives and family photo albums on it.

      People can spend the time and energy to create personal online databases about themselves, but won’t get any sort of license or identification…. REALLY?

      Sorry but this is NOT a legit excuse.

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:44am

      With laws like this, and NO protection for the integrity of the election process, let alone borders, AT ALL, only one conclusion “IS” possible: active government subversion.

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 10:37am

      It really doesn’t have anything to do with racism to ask for an ID before voting. What is taking place is the black man has realized that all he has to do to resolve ANY type of conflict is to cry racism and the problem will go away. It is their way of excluding themselves from being subjected to the same rules and procedures as everybody else. It also serves as a back stop when the logic of their arguments fall apart. Cry racism and you win the argument. It works doesn’t it? It is done EVERYWHERE and frequently.

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    • UWSDWF
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 10:45am

      Agreed

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    • UWSDWF
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 10:47am

      So true SCARY TRUE

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    • PAR
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 11:04am

      @BMWRIDER – You must be as stupid as your picture would suggest. It is NOT racist to require that only those who can LEGALLY vote be allowed to do so. That is only following what is constitutionally valid. There are many ways to get a vaild ID, but people have to have sufficient energy and desire to do so.

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    • hud
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:10pm

      BMRider—if you can get to a Wal Mart, or court house in Louisiana, with 20 mins of time and less than $20′s they will make you a photo ID. 60 yrs ago is 60 yrs ago and this is now, and a crock is a crock. I saw a 85 yr old black woman on TV the other day saying she had voted all her life. This is about fraud.

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    • toidiegalliv
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:15pm

      Dear MCDAVE: Our freedoms and responsibilities are given us by God and only recognized or tread under foot by “government”. I realize I am probably preaching to the choir here, but these tyranny loving people who have wormed their way into power may find that our freedoms are not nearly so easy to “take” as it for the weak minded who long for government to pat their heads and powder their little bottoms, to throw said freedoms away. Your concerns are well founded, but there are still a lot of us who can take care of our own heads and bottoms and will be pushed only so far. God and Christ demand that we live in liberty and live right. This will all play out and those who know “whose” they are, are the ones to get to know. Best regards.

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    • INOGAWD
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:03pm

      40000 new laws….and Obumbles and DOJ won’t let AZ
      enforce their immigration Laws, HMMMMMMM ???
      This Administration is a disgrace to our Constitution !!!
      Gov. should work to PROTECT not RE-ELECT !!

      ANYONE but Obama, in 2012…. GO, AZ SB-1070..

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    • Dumbwhiteguy
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:36pm

      Mcdave, Don’t be scared.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 4:58pm

      When you outlaw DRANO, only outlaws will have clean drains.

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    • jlbs
      Posted on January 9, 2012 at 9:25am

      To Tomfarriri: That was my first thought—–and doesn’t just plain table salt react with some metals causing erosion? These people can not think beyond the length of their nose.

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  • beekeeper
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:45pm

    Don’t forget Pseudophed – a key component of both meth production and fighting the common cold!

    Don’t the poor, elderly, and minorities get colds?

    And this is in the Republican stronghold of Chicago!? Ha-Ha! Wait till the Dems get in and clean-up Chicago,!

    Wait, what? Chicago is Democraticly- controlled?

    Go figure…

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    • jaswalt
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:17am

      You scared me for a second–replublican stronghold of Chicago.?!? Glad I kept reading. Not only have all the other areas been listed, but for the people who drove to the poll, they need a driver’s license which is a photo ID, and renting a car or a hotel room. For those who have no id, they obviously participate in absolutely nothing else in this great country so why are they worried about voting. Even high school students have photo ids. Come on people, just show you id when you vote and if you don’t have one, get one. I promise you’ll survive the process. I‘ve had a government issue photo ID since I was 13 years old and so far I’ve survived to 36.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:25am

      How come those same people they claim won’t be able to get an ID to vote can get an ID to get booze or tobacco or to get on an airplane?

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    • dmforman
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:00pm

      One must remember the motto of voting in Chicago: Vote Early, Vote Often.

      I use my id to buy allergy medicine, alcohol, to rent a car, to verify my credit card when making purchases, for hotel rooms, and so many other things. There is nothing racist about requiring an id for voting.

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    • Hockeytown
      Posted on January 9, 2012 at 10:00am

      I went to get some cold medicine last week and had to show my id and sign five pages of forms before they would let me buy it, but it’s racist to ask for id when voting. Liberals are such hypocrites!!!

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  • CONSERVATIVESRISE
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:44pm

    Requiring ID would hurt dems at the polls and so they pull out the race card anytime it is mentioned. It’s all about votes.

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    • PRRedlin
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:29am

      Think so? The largest population of citizens without identification are the elderly and senior citizens. They are the least likely to drive and therefor least likely to renew their identification cards. Guess which party they vote for.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:27am

      Yet the elderly need these same IDs to go out to purchase booze, or tobacco, or cough medicine, etc.

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    • taxx
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:59am

      So don’t require seniors to have to renew ids after they turn 60 (but not licenses). It‘s not likely their appearance will change much and there isn’t much fraud at that age.

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 7:53am

      No, the issues is not just about requiring IDs, it has to do with what IDs are accepted. In TX, a gun license allows you to vote but a state issued student ID does not. Please explain that one. If it is a state issued ID, why is it not sufficient, especially considering that a gun license is good enough. Or, does it have to do with the demographics of who has a gun license and who has student IDs?

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    • KNaggieland
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:45am

      @Godfather

      the gun license actually requires proof of residency for verification where as the school ID is issued to even non-US residents. It is not racist or a conspiracy it is common sense, as the issue is to prevent voter fraud.

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 11:07am

      Except that voter fraud is not actually an issue. It is simply something to distract and change the voting laws and to prevent certain groups from voting.

      Your argument about what information is required for each ID is also just a distraction. Only legal residents get ballots, so it wouldn’t matter for non-residents or citizens who have student IDs because they wouldn’t have a ballot.

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    • Dumbwhiteguy
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:40pm

      Votes don’t matter.

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    • My Two Cents
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 4:51pm

      So according to PREDDLIN’s logic the elderly never buy over the counter cold & sinus medicine which requires an ID for purchase. Maybe they all take the bus down to the ghetto and buy it on the street corner.

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    • toto
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 7:39pm

      It’s more than just votes, it’s about being in favor o,f and supporting, lying ,cheating, stealing, and screwing over law abiding people

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    • KNaggieland
      Posted on January 9, 2012 at 12:56am

      @Godfather

      first you insinuate some sort of nefarious intent based on accepted Id now you say voter fraud is not an issue.

      Tx law requires residents to have valid Id with current address so if you are a legal resident of Texas you should have no problem with voter Id. As for voter fraud the tens of thousands of fraudulent voter registrations just from ACORN in the 08 elections would disagree with your obviously misinformed opinion.

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  • HumbleMan
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:43pm

    Is it just me, or does anyone else want vomit when you listen to these people?

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    • TurboCat
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 4:21am

      It’s not just you. They really stretch the truth into quite a pretzel, do they not? I guess it is how their mind works. They just want to cheat the system and that is why they do not like the voter I.D. requirement. It can’t be anything else. They sound so condescending and insult people’s intelligence when they say that a person in this or that particular group are so helpless that they cannot be expected to show their I.D. I would absolutely feel that my intelligence was being insulted if they talked down to me in that way, as if people were 4 years old and incompetent. Wow, who do these elites think they are fooling?

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    • rambosharley
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:15am

      No it’s not just you! Half the time I don’t have to listen…when I see MSLSD I already know whats coming out of their pie holes!

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    • west1890
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:48am

      EVERY state that has enacted voter ID laws also has provisions for people who cannot afford ID to get it for FREE… so their argument that it is racist is BS. I even have to show ID to rent a carpet cleaning machine.

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  • dgremark12
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:41pm

    Dems motto “vote early and vote often”

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    • seeker9
      Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:54pm

      Remember Schultz (msnbc) back about 2 years ago say on his radio show that he would vote multiple times in an election?

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    • Jim in Houston
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 10:15am

      And don’t forget to bring your dead friends so they too can vote.

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    • flipper1073
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 4:38pm

      only if your dead friends have a picture ID

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  • Jennifer_D
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:40pm

    Asking individuals to present a valid photo id makes it that much more difficult for democrats to commit voter fraud. That is all that this is about. Democrats will do just about anything for votes.

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  • CONSERVATIVESRISE
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:36pm

    Having to present a valid ID at the pills would put a hurting on the dems at the polls. That is why they cry foul when someone suggests it. They don’t want anyone to know who is “voting” for them, dead, alive, convicted felon, etc.

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    • TurboCat
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 4:25am

      @PREDLIN: Yes, the constitution gives one the right to vote, not the right to cheat!!

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    • turkey13
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 10:51am

      Your are right – I forgot about how Lyndon Johnson got elected! I understand that nearly every cemetary was cleaned out and Texas got more votes than they had as registered voters.

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    • flipper1073
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 4:57pm

      Cartoon Character, Illegal Alien, Homeless paid voter
      All the Normal Democrat Voters

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  • Nick_Heyward
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:35pm

    We’re never asked for any ID to vote in OK, it’s nuts. I just walk up, tell them my name and they flip open a big book and have me sign it and give me a ballot. There are pages of empty lines where no voter ever comes in, the system is just asking to be abused. I’d be more than willing to show them some ID. They don’t even ask for the little voter card they sent me in the mail!

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    • jackbauer
      Posted on January 7, 2012 at 11:39pm

      Similar here in NC. They ask for your name and address, Write it on a piece of paper and then state it verbally. One could vote in the name of anyone they know. We also have a real estate look-up system online that would give anyone a name and address. Get to their polling place and the person was not registered, no problem. Just argue that it’s a mistake, then get a provisional ballot.
      Don’t worry, if Obama can’t rig a win by stealing it with voter fraud or backing a third party candidate, get ready for him to keep his power by force. Just because it has never happened here doesn‘t mean it can’t.

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    • PRRedlin
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:33am

      They do however have a copy of your signature which is compared to the signature you sign. If there are questionable differences then they are to ask for photo identification. I’ve volunteered at polling stations in the past. There have been a few times which the signatures did not match, and in almost every instance, upon request of identification, the individual was in fact the person on the list.

      This leads to one conclusion. If a signature is similar to the one presented upon registration, then there is a near 100% chance that it is the individual if at the same time nearly 100% of individuals who’s signatures do not match are also the individual in question.

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    • PRRedlin
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:39am

      Let me clear that up a bit. We are required to ask for identification. This does not have to be government issued. It can be work ID, or even a copy of a utility bill indicating address and name.

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    • venture291
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 3:22am

      @ Predlin
      Let me really clear it up. If a person commits fraud at the box MY any many others will be DIS-ENFRANCHISED. Libs need to cheet they can’t possibly run on their record. PS: ALERT ALERT look out for fraud in fudging numbers, they do that too. You all don’t want the whole country to end up like that left coast liber bastion called California now do ya.

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    • countryfirst
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:31am

      Feel free to add to list of purchases or rentals that require Photo I.D

      Alcohol, Tobacco, car , check cashing, carpet cleaning system, library card, airline ticket, access to government installations, get a credit card, shooting range

      And ID to vote will be a imposition?

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    • turkey13
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 2:52pm

      Very true here in Oklahoma – they are supposed to ask for I.D, but don’t. I’v watched the people as they hold the book open and they always watch me as I sign in. At least no one else can vote under my name. I suppose you can vote many times if you know some registered voters in other preceints. At least all these votes will be under registered voters not a bus load hauled in from somewhere else just to vote at one and then another precint.

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  • The Bagginator
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:34pm

    Typical lazy, easy way out, liberal solution. Punish everyone for the actions of a few.

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    • PRRedlin
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:49am

      The definition of liberal is one who strives from freedom from the state (hence the root of libertarianism). This would be considered a conservative ruling as it would revert more power and control away from citizens and back to the state. In the political philosophies, conservatism is defined as the conservation of rights and power of the state, which is the complete opposite of the individual.

      It is no wonder why then that the Republicans are trying to infringe upon voters rights and retain more power for the government by disenfranchising and preventing their own citizens form exercising their right to vote, a right afforded to them by the constitution.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:21am

      Where does it say that you have the right to vote in the Constitution?

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    • venture291
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 3:30am

      @ Predlin
      Let me really clear it up. If a person commits fraud at the box MY any many others will be DIS-ENFRANCHISED. Libs need to cheet they can’t possibly run on their record. PS: ALERT ALERT look out for fraud in fudging numbers, they do that too. You all don’t want the whole country to end up like that left coast liber bastion called California now do ya. REMEMBER Minisota they mysteriosly found thousands of ballots in somebodies car trunk like weeks after the diputed election. Of cours that comedian/politition won after he now had enough votes.
      Mr p your a liberal aren’t you. Please think in terms of right or wrong not left and right and we can be united again, like united we stand. Times are dangerous to be so divisive we will have our lunch eaten by the bad guys in a new york minute.

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    • venture291
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 3:57am

      They want to normalize voter fraud as normal. Like other secret projects that can‘t pass muster with the people they have been working on this one QUIETLY behind nan’s closed door for years. It will permanently destroy voter integrety. Ask Coleman who lost to Al Frankin. 200,000 John McCain votes disqualified. Remember also when they did not want to count the military votes also in 2008? United We Stand. Institutional fraud via GEORGE SOROS, of course. http://www.truethevote.org/news/what-is-the-secretary-of-state-project

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:13am

      PRRedlin <<<< Joins the blaze 7 days ago and is already a know it all tell it all … He'll be like the rest of the stupid libs come , troll for a few weeks get bored and leave…
      Never mind the asinine comments and pastes and copys .. He's a lib, you will NEVER wake him up..
      Have fun PRRedlin then begone…

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    • PRRedlin
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 9:32am

      Gitrdone,

      The right to vote is implied by the constitution in that the representative government be elected. The fifteenth amendment codifies this by stating that the right to vote based upon race shall not be infringed. The 19th amendment codifies this by stating that the right to vote based upon sex shall not be infringed. The 26th amendment codifies this by stating that the rights of all individuals of 18 years or older shall not be infringed.

      Clear that up for ya? In fact, the one thing the constitution does not determine is whether or not you have to be a citizen of the united states to vote. The definition of the electorate is “the people”. One could very well construe that if you are living here, legal or not, that you define “the people”.

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    • Jim in Houston
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 10:20am

      PRRedlin: The Huff & Puff just called, they want you back. They missed their idiot.

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  • Babeuf
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:33pm

    You can’t make this stuff up!

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  • SAYNOTOSOCIALISM
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:31pm

    Gotta show ID to drive, buy beer or cigs, open a bank account or COLLECT A WELFARE CHECK, why not have to show one to vote?????

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    • TurboCat
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 4:37am

      Why? you ask? So they can CHEAT!!!! That’s why!

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  • Smokey_Bojangles
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:31pm

    Can We Force Illi and Commiefornia out of the Union?

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    • AMERICA4EVER
      Posted on January 7, 2012 at 11:37pm

      Cook country should be made a state. We suffer in Illinois because of Cook county.

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  • cemerius
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:30pm

    Asking for an ID will disenfranchise all the Democrat Voters that are dead!! Guess demanding an ID for Welfare is racist too, AHH thats why they went to the EBT card don‘t need no stinkin ID to use a card to get moeny for a couple 40’s!

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  • Gary S
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:29pm

    @kurwa Meth is natures’ way of getting rid of the dregs.

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  • String Bean
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:29pm

    Looks like Hose A and his brother Hose B will have to get their Draino on the black market from now on.

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  • Drakkhanlord
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:27pm

    id for foodstamps , welfare. everything…

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    • taxpro4u03
      Posted on January 7, 2012 at 11:54pm

      Most stores don‘t yet demand ID for EFS ’cards’ — they get PAID whoever uses it… and ‘computers’ are not set up to do a retinal scan — yet… ;-)

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  • Wilbur D Pig
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:25pm

    What about that dummy who spayed the lady with gas and set her on fire? Should buying gas be an ID-only transaction? Or is that racist since illegals wouldn’t be able to drive around anymore? …Oh wait they’re already not allowed to do that. I guess we don’t need to worry then.

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  • ZAP
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:21pm

    Sudafed is racist,buhaahahhha

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  • skwiggy21
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:18pm

    …but to elect who will be the leader of the free world…ID…we don’t need no stinkin ID.

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    • Darla_K
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 8:23am

      If Obama would of been asked for ID and to show college records the people might of had a clue, but I doubt it. In my state we now send our votes through the mail and I do not like this at all. They have you sign and supposedly someone might check your signature. How can they check if someone does not have any form of ID? Where is that person’s signature on record? The people crying about not being able to afford ID walk around with welfare money, nice jewelry, manicured fingernails and on and on. This is a way for the dems to cheat. End of story.

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  • possom
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:17pm

    The only new law we need is no more pay, benefit‘s or pension’s for politician‘s or those appointed to various post’s by them!

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  • abbygirl1994
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:13pm

    I just don’t understand this at all.. every states I have lived in I have had to show my ID.. are there states that don’t have to??? Don‘t tell me people can’t afford a damn ID.. If the price is to high, then give them for free.. why charge for a ID anyways, all it is is proof of who you are… take your birth certificate and get an ID.. This is nothing more than corruption of this administration… anyone can come in, make up a name and vote, not once but multiple times… don‘t tell me the poor can’t afford a 15 dollar ID.. go to any of their homes and I guarantee you will find big screen tvs, computers, this is bull roar! God help us.. ths administration is nothing more than Chicago thugs!

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    • TurboCat
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 4:53am

      That’s right. Thugs! Just like Hoffa jr. and they are Obongo’s personal friends. He is just a figure-head, going around doing ‘presidential’ things, while his thug buddies do his dirty work. Eric Holder is personally responsible for hundreds of lives lost with his ‘fast and furious’ thuggery; I’m talking about two border patrol agents in the U.S. and countless citizens in Mexico. Obongo puts vile communists in the W.H. and has quite an array of Chicago thugs working behind the scenes. The whole lot of them deserve prison. How is it that they are getting away with what they’ve done?

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  • kurwa
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:09pm

    funny how the iowa gop waived id cards for the caucas?, talk about double standards maybe to get a lot of out of towners there to boost romney and santorum votes hmm?

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    • Collbuzz
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 1:33am

      The caucus essentially means nothing; noone gained any position of power from the caucus. If Iowa was the only state picking the president, why do all the other states also have voting? Relax

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  • Blazesurfer
    Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:01pm

    I.D. for….Beer, cigs, entry to the club, fishing licience…..everywhere I shop…rasicst

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    • Hiswill
      Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:07pm

      Also for cold meds.

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    • kurwa
      Posted on January 7, 2012 at 10:10pm

      cold meds and drain cleaner are used in the production, that is why you need id.

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 12:19am

      …and butane lighters, spray paint, laquer remover, wood stain, SHARPIE MARKERS!!!!

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on January 8, 2012 at 8:34am

      not to mention flying on planes, traffic stops, opening bank accounts….

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