Two Students ‘Accidentally’ Shot at LA High School
- Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:37pm by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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From KTLA in Los Angeles:
Gardena High School is on lockdown after a shooting on campus that left at least three students wounded.
The shooting was reported in the 1300 block of West 182nd Street around 10:30 a.m. [Pacific time] Tuesday.
Gardena police say 3 students have been wounded. At least one person has been transported to a hospital.
There are reports that police know who the gunman is, but are not releasing his name, according to Gardena Police spokesman Lt. Steve Prendargast.
He is described only as a 18-year old boy. Police believe he is a student. He is believed to still be on campus.
Parents are urged to remain at home and wait for information on when they can pick up their children.
UPDATE:
Police have arrested the suspected gunman after he released a group of hostages, which included students and a teacher.
UPDATE II:
KTLA is now reporting the number of wounded stands at two (not three), and the shooting is being ruled an accident:
Gardena police say two students were wounded. Both were taken to a local hospital.
One was said to be in critical condition. The other student’s condition was described as serious.
Police with guns drawn surrounded a classroom as students walked outside with their hands in the air. One young man was then placed on the ground and handcuffed. [...]
A Los Angeles Unified School District official says the shooting was accidental. The official says the student brought a gun to school in his backpack, which fell onto the ground and apparently discharged.
A teacher is being credited with talking to the student inside a classroom and convincing him to cooperate with police. [Emphasis added]
UPDATE III:
According to the Associated Press, the injured parties are students from the high school, and were wounded by a single bullet:
A Los Angeles police official says the two students wounded in a shooting at a high school were hit by one bullet that was fired when a gun in a backpack apparently went off by accident.
Deputy Chief Patrick Gannon says a 15-year-old Gardena High student was shot in the head Tuesday and is hospitalized in critical condition.
The other victim is a 15-year-old who was hit in the neck. Gannon describes it as a “through-and-through” wound.
Gannon says the student who brought the gun said he was sorry after it went off, and a teacher in the classroom said it appeared to be an accident.
The student with the gun ran to another room and police took him into custody.
UPDATE IV:
A 15-year-old girl with a head wound underwent hours of surgery at Los Angeles County Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, said Dr. Gail V. Anderson Jr. A 15-year-old boy was in serious condition with neck and shoulder wounds.
According KTLA, this isn’t the first time the student brought a gun to school. One student, who called herself a “good friend” of the gun carrier, said he regularly brought the gun to school for protection after getting in a fight.
Despite the incident, many at the school praised the student suspect.
“He was a sweetheart, always smiling and hugging people,” classmate Para Ross told KTLA.
This isn’t the first time Gardena High School has experienced such an incident. The school was the scene of a shooting in February 2002, when three assailants tried to hold up two students in an outdoor area. Two students were shot.
In the past five years, two students have been expelled for firearms violations at Gardena High.
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Comments (252)
pandora
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:07pmThey should allow prayer in schools again…..if only so the students can administer last rights to each other. This is what happens to a civilaztion devoid of “real” morality (not the fake liberal feel good kind) and when parents are not taking responsibility for the kind of education kids are not getting in government schools. Expect more. These kids are frustrated and angry because they don’t think anyone really cares about them. They are being raised by TV, video games, movies; Comedy Central is their news station, and parents are afraid to give limits and discipline for fear of legal action and abuse charges. We have allowed state control over parental control. This is the result. Live with it…or change it.
Report Post »Hispaniconservative
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:06pmWe need to make that there is no Tea Party Chapter in Gardena or that Neither Glenn or Sarah were around or Special Ed will Blame them all for this shooting.
Report Post »Dotprince
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 7:34pmDoesn’t matter if they were “around” or not — he’ll still find a way to make it their fault. Not that it IS their fault, but like a really good progressive, he will FIND a way to make it their fault. What a sad state this nation is in. I think there’s more to the story, too, and that someone should do an investigation. But, it likely as not will NOT happen because progressives run the country and conservative people are “too dumb” to lead or even know how to read a book. Not really, but that’s what the progressives have convinced themselves of.
Report Post »2gether
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:06pmGod help us all. When will we learn? When will parents understand that it is far better to have a stay at home parent rather than the extra big house and all the new toys? When will marriage and family togetherness become important again? We really have to take a deep breath and start doing the fundamentals right again.
Report Post »We seem to have lost that solid foundation so necessary for a society to flourish in peace with one another and hardly anyone cares. It is “old fashioned” it is a “warped conservative view”. It is a “warped morality” that prescribes the old fashioned family togetherness and Creator worshipping type of life…where family members take care of one another, a parent is there to take care of the kids when they go and come from school, marriages were permanent and meant something. If we want this country to be strong and value driven again we need to take a step back and reassess our paths. For anyone who thinks that blowing off our God has nothing to do with this decline and says that Christianity was not a building block upon which this country was solidly formed, they would do well to educate themselves. EVERY STATE CONSTITUTION MENTIONS OUR CREATOR, GOD, JESUS OR CHRISTIAN…EVERY STATE! EDUCATE YOURSELF AND REDEDICATE YOURSELF TO A BETTER AMERICA.
FaithfulFriend
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:06pmChuck Schumer calling for immediate banning of backpacks which are not transparent, shirts must be worn just below the mid chest level and pants worn around the knees to prevent weapon concealment in schools.
Report Post »2gether
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:14pmPants are alreay worn at knee level!
Report Post »Miser
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 5:10pmCan’t do that. Barney Frank would get too excited
Report Post »Disabledvet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:05pmI remember when I went to school as long as you left your hunting rifle and shotgun in your truck it was Okay, and we never had any shootings except at deer, I say todays youth are a bunch of spoiled crybabies that worry to much about what people think and have never been taught the meaning of a hard days work, we used guns as tools to feed our family, remember GUNS don’t kill people – People Kill People. If the gun belongs to a dad make the dad have some responsibilty and 18 is not a boy, it is an adult just ask the 18 year olds in the service.
Report Post »Idaho Kirk
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:21pmAnd would go hunting after school. Same here. We NEVER had any shootings and there were several guns in the parking lot EVERY day.
Report Post »SpotoGo_Denny
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:02pmWhat in the heck was the teacher trying to do? Protect the idiot shooter? Let the police handle it, moron!
Report Post »CaptainSpaulding
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:59pmIt’s the Tea Parties and Sarah Palin!!!
/sarc
Report Post »blanco
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:59pm“live”
Report Post »blanco
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:58pmYou could not PAY me enough to life in LA!
Report Post »smokey888x2
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:56pmTALK RADIO DID IT, TALK RADIO DID IT ….. Sarah Palin having said a word w/ a “g” in it and the next day with a “u” in another word, then another time said a word with a “n” in it MEANS: SHE’S GUILTY and TALK RADIO DID IT.
Why is it anyway that the Left can’t get a talk radio presence?
Report Post »Idaho Kirk
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:24pmAre you actually Ed Shultz? I’m tempted to leave the office early so i can watch his hsow to see how he is going to spin this into a Palin bash.
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:56pmLet’s not jump to conclusions until we have the whole story
Report Post »blanco
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:59pmWhy start now?
Report Post »NE Cowboy
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:05pmOk we won’t. But it looks laike a possible ban on black clothing is coming……..;)
Report Post »Miser
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:25pmThe gun shoots from the backpack accidentally? Then we have hostages? A teacher talked the gunman into giving up? Either I don’t read well or a lot of the story is missing.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 8:33pmDidn’t stop you a week ago did it? Moronic liberals.
Report Post »The Gooch
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:54pmA few things to remember as this unfolds:
Violence is not exclusive to the U.S. (do a search on school shootings… Europeans can’t take the moral high ground on this one).
Using guns for violence is not exclusive to the U.S. Watch the damn news.
More people are murdered by gun toting, machete wielding, stone throwing agents of states that have disarmed the unwashed masses than by gun wielding nut jobs. The number one cause of untimely death will forever be political bodies and religious zealots. Read a damn history book.
In a free society, there is always an element of risk. Come to think of it, life itself assumes risk as no man’s day is guaranteed. Not to be flippant, but bad things do happen to good people… and bad people… and no govt. is going to able to stop that. Govt. can, however, limit your ability to take risks and exercise rights. Just ask wuss rep. Peter King.
I am not going to defend homicidal behavior. That will be for the perp and his reps to engage in. Over the years, I’ve learned that there is great wisdom in letting cooler heads prevail. When you have leaders and a constituency that knee jerks and believes in never letting a tragedy go to waste, you tend to get the govt. you deserve. Unleash the hounds….
Report Post »OK3Wire
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:26pmWell said, Gooch.
Report Post »BSdetector
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:54pmPeople don’t kill people, guns kill people! Hey we should ban cars too!
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:04pmPeople “with” guns kill people.
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:18pm@ Here Today Gone Tomorrow:
You are so right!
If guns kill people, then pencils misspell words and cars drive drunk !!
I’m confused!
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:18pmMIDDLE A$$ PROPHET SADI
People with guns kill people.
well so do people with knives and cars and bombs and poison and hammers and razors …..
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:29pmYou most certainly are ‘confused’.
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:31pm-DashRipRock-
You’re comparing a gun to a pencil? Wow, the ignorance displayed on here is amazing.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:18pmCitizens without guns get enslaved and or murdered by oppressive governments
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 5:12pmHere’s a little thought experiment:
Stand twenty feet away from a person and yell at them.
Now, stand twenty feet away from a person and fire a gun at them.
Now Einstein, can you tell me how each of these scenarios end? What do you think was the difference in these situations?
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 6:35pmThen, get in a car and floor it while aiming at the person.
Or maybe shoot an arrow at them
Or throw a rock….or a knife…
Launch a catapult at them, or a flamethrower…
And your point is?
The person is the one doing the killing.
Report Post »fivebyfive
Posted on January 19, 2011 at 11:00amMIDDLECLASSPUPPET
Report Post »More damage has been done to our country at the end of a pencil than the end of a gun
Happy Killmore
Posted on January 19, 2011 at 11:31amTed Kennedy’s car has killed more people than my guns.
Report Post »red penny
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:52pmSchools are becoming shooting ranges.What is going on here;what is causing these young people to act out this way? Our society is in grave trouble as it appears so many don‘t seem to know right from wrong or just don’t care!
Report Post »outoftheblue
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:50pmFunny how these crazy people shoot people only in places that guns are not allowed by law
Report Post »So the solution to this is pass more laws…..The liberal way
middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:28pm-outoftheblue-
Try gathering the facts before you start blurting out of your mouth. The gun went off inside a backpack that was thrown down on a table, so the 18 year old did not intentionally shoot anyone. This has nothing to do with left/right, professor.
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:32pmImagine that! A gun inside a backpack shoots 3 people all by itself!
I really am confused!
Report Post »here today gone tomorrow
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:40pmmiddleclassprophet – You make no sense on here at all. I along with many other Blaze readers think you are crazy.
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:09pm-here today gone tomorrow-
The majority of posters here thinking I’m crazy is exactly what I would expect. Anyone short of GOP lock-n-step attitude is considered “crazy” here.
Report Post »fivebyfive
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:17pmMIDDLECLASSPUPPET
Report Post »guns don’t shoot people
backpacks do
Taquoshi
Posted on January 19, 2011 at 5:39pmMiddleClassProphet -
Imagine that! A gun inside a backpack shoots 3 people all by itself!
Think for a minute:
An 18 year old student had a handgun (long gun or rifle would have been too big to fit in backpack).
He broke his first law right there because CA State law does not allow anyone under 21 to own handguns.
He brought it onto school property concealed in a backpack. Another couple of laws violated.
The school only does random searches and only randomly selects students to wand with metal detector. (Oops!)
The gun, which was probably illegal and may have been “modified” by the previous owner, did not have the safety on (violation); had a magazine in (violation) and a bullet in the chamber (violation).
At this point, he was literally up in the 80% risk area for something going wrong.
And yes, the student was responsible and knew it because he apologized before fleeing the scene and taking a bunch of other students and a teacher as hostage.
Report Post »jctunink
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:46pmMSM and Progressives/Liberals start to blame Sarah, TEA Party, Right Wingers/leaners and Talk Radio in 3..2..1..
Report Post »1TrueOne55
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:36pmIt’s “Moses’ fault”. Remember Charleton Heston was president of the NRA for a while and he was a Hollywood celebrity.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:46pmMore ammunition for Obama to impose gun bans. Here is comes folks.
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:02pmThere should have a ban on semi-automatic weapons.
Report Post »Idaho Kirk
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:13pm@middleclassprophet;
Can I still have my musket or do you want that too? SEMI-autos need to be banned now?! a psycho is a psycho PERIOD! Guns do not kill!
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:14pmMeant to say there should “NOT” be a ban on semi-automatic weapons! Americans have a right to defend themselves.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:14pmmiddleclassprophet, so the use a revolver instead. Then what? Ban them too?
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:18pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban
For those of you defending the right to own an assault weapon, you need to have your priorities adjusted. There is no reason for ANYONE to own an assault weapon. The 2nd amendment says “nada” about that.
Report Post »J.C. McGlynn
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:19pmTo I.K.: I believe many lefties would be happier if he were wearing a pipe bomb styled vest.
Report Post »Idaho Kirk
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:20pmgotcha.
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:25pmBut then, what the hell do I know!
Report Post »davecoolworld
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:31pmMIDDLECLASSPROPHET…..The first amendment says nothing about being an ***** but you continually prove that you have that freedom.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:34pmMeddlingclassP
That ban was lifted under Bush, thank God, as for my BIGBLACK Scarrrrry Assault rifles come and get them at your own risk.
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:36pmThere are always gun accidents or events. It’s only when the need-to-ban starts itching a politician do we get the full blown media treatment of every event.
@MiddleClassProphet
No, they shouldn’t. The nice thing about rights is that no matter what opinion you may have of them, you have no power to take them away. They shouldn’t ban semi-auto, that’s just silly, and fully against the very clear wording of the 2nd Amendment, which is a guarantee of the right (but not the origin of the right).
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:39pm-davecoolworld-
Spoken like a true gun fanatic.
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:42pm-GhostOfJefferson-
You need to re-read the 2nd amendment and what it states about gun ownership. It says “A well regulated militia”…just what government agency do you belong to that qualifies as a militia?
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:44pm-RLTW-
Big man with a big gun making idle threats on a random message board…what a tool.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:49pmmiddleclassprophet, a semi-automatic weapon is not an assault weapon. I know those were two separate posts, but I want to make sure you’re properly educated before speaking.
For example, my concealed-carry weapon is semi-automatic; if it were banned it would be much tougher to defend myself and others against a deranged idiot exercising his free-will to kill innocent people. Like the Arizona shooter. Don’t be fooled into thinking a ban on semi-automatic weapons would make them unavailable either. The ban would do the same thing the 18 amendment did for alcohol; make them unregulated, untaxed, but still available to those who seek them.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:14pmLet’s put this whole second amendment thing to bed. Here is what it says:
“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
As I read it, it is the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms and this right shall not be infringed. The militia is merely the by-product of people owning firearms. They also needed those firearms for hunting and defense. There is no way a reasonable reading of these lines would infer that owning firearms was for the sole purpose of creating a militia.
Report Post »1TrueOne55
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:35pmThere is a lot of evidence that this “Kid” did not know how to engage a safety on the gun. Well that is what is being talked about in the News now. He did not really drop the gun in the back pack but dropped the back pack after the gun went off.
One report I heard on Fox News was that the gunman claimed he was trying to put the safety on and the gun went off. What happened to the security at this school that “every student” is wanded for weapons and backpacks checked before going to class. Is the policy only enforced on those students at the beginning of the school day? Apparently so the security that parents thought they were getting failed again.
Is not this the school district the same one that wants to build a New Age themed campus with a Multi-million dollar price tag?
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 5:26pm“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
Hmmm…. setting aside the whole “well regulated militia” thing, have you noticed that the amendment does not say that you should be able to have whatever kinds of arms you want? After all, the right to free speech is qualified for the purposes of public order in situations such as the famous yelling-fire-in-a-crowded-theater scenario. Yet, somehow you think you should be able to own and carry any kind of gun you want?
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 7:23pmMiddleazz – You haven’t a clue, citizens must be able to match what the military has, if not, you can easily be taken over by them, you don’t understand and never will because you are a coward.
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on January 19, 2011 at 5:29pm@ PubliusPencilman
Actually, it doesn’t matter what the Second Amendment does or does not say about guns, or automatic guns or assault weapons.
The student was 18 years old. I checked twice and California law does not allow those under the age of 21 to own handguns. That leads me to believe it was either stolen or hot.
He was on school property.
He had a gun concealed in a backpack that had a bullet in the chamber, had a magazine in place and did not have the safety on.
Once the accidental discharge happened, he apologized and ran out to another room where he took the students and teachers hostage. Once again, no bearing on the Second Amendment.
The issue of assault rifles or the wording of the Second Amendment is just a red herring and has nothing to do with the incident.
Report Post »marklross
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:44pmObviously, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, and Glenn Beck are to blame….who will be first?
Report Post »fertlmind
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:00pmYou forgot to mention BUSH! LOL
Report Post »But Cheney would be the most likely suspect considering his shooting record! LOL!
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:38pm@Middleclass
“For those of you defending the right to own an assault weapon, you need to have your priorities adjusted. There is no reason for ANYONE to own an assault weapon. The 2nd amendment says “nada” about that.”
Assault weapons are select fire and full auto by definition. Your scare tactics on that front were exposed when others tried them starting in the 1990′s. Sorry guy, you lose that one too, due to lacking understanding about the definition of the thing you wish to ban.
And yes, everybody should have free unfettered access to real assault weapons, without permits or requirements. And I DO mean the real assault weapons, full auto select fire, thank you very much.
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:13pm-ghostofjefferson-
“…everybody should have free unfettered access to real assault weapons, without permits or requirements”
Llaw abiding gun owners could not disagree with you more. You honestly think people should be able to own a gun without a permit or any requirements? Ignorance, say hello to arrogance.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:41pmLlaw abiding gun owners could not disagree with you more. You honestly think people should be able to own a gun without a permit or any requirements? Ignorance, say hello to arrogance.”
The 2nd Amendment is a individual right guaranteed by the Constitution. It makes no distinction between types or uses for those arms. In fact, individuals owned and carried the same weapons as the Continental Army, and some people even owned cannons.
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:56pm-booger71-
Owning a gun without permit or registration is not a democracy or a republic, it’s the wild wild west.
Report Post »firstlast
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 5:13pmIn California a mini-30 (you used to be able to buy these at Wal-Mart) with an altered stock is considered an “assault rifle”. Have one and you are unwittingly a felon. Get caught with one and you no longer have the right to own a gun and are a convicted felon (even if you dont do any prison/jail time). Now you cant get a job or protect your family…without ever having committed an act of moral injustice.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 19, 2011 at 8:40am@MCP
“Llaw abiding gun owners could not disagree with you more. You honestly think people should be able to own a gun without a permit or any requirements? Ignorance, say hello to arrogance.”
Please. You know as much about law abiding gun owners as you do about tribal Somalian fertility rituals.
Report Post »SuttonShimai
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:43pmIt’s happening more and more often, people. High schools (or any school) is not immune.
Report Post »Helldogger
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:43pmSarah, Glenn & Rush are at it again.
Report Post »NE Cowboy
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:06pmYep….it was all there fault!!!!!! You can just see it now……
Report Post »lcam67
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:43pmpray no one is killed… hope they catch the shooter before needless crime continues
Report Post »NE Cowboy
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:03pmLooks like they caught him. He matches description. Black male, wearing black clothes. Oh wait…….GOTTA BAN ALL BLACK CLOTHES NOW!!!!!
Report Post »KenInIL
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:38pmNo wonder, everyone in the pic is carrying a gun! Should all those people be walking around with guns?
What about the mention of hostages? Were they accidental too?
N37BU6
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:42pm18 year old “boy”?
Report Post »mgibs363
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:47pmI was thinking the same thing…18 sounds like an adult to me.
Report Post »NoMoreGray
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:52pmMe to?
Report Post »marklross
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:54pm18 boy? Well – yes – that’s the new definition – “children” stay on their parent’s health insurance until they become adults AT 26!
Report Post »J.C. McGlynn
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:04pmRemember people, under Obummercare, you are considered a child until you are 26 years old.
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:13pmMore details .
a 15 year old student with a gun in his backpack , the backpak fell to the ground & the shot went off accidentally 2 students injured .
Report Post »Palin went too far this time .
John 1776
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:14pmWell, the Libs consider everyone to be “children” that they have to take care of. By the time you become an “adult” it’s time to pull the plug as you are an economic drag on the “greater collective.”
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:42pm-J.C. McGlynn-
I think you may qualify for longer than that.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 7:34pmMiddleASSprophet, we know you’re an idiot, you don’t have to keep proving it over and over, thanks.
Report Post »Xcori8r
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:42pmOK Kalifornia – You never want a good crisis to go to waste. Better hurry and pass more gun control laws even stricter than the stupid ones you have in place so that law abiding citizens are even further disarmed and the gangs and crazies have an even greater advantage. Get going now.
Report Post »BMartin1776
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:59pmSo true the laws here are absurd. Thanks to Arnie we have a new one kicking in next month that is pretty much back door registration via tracking the ammo you buy!
Oh we can open carry here too! BUT cant be a loaded gun, nope you can have your pistol holstered on one hip and loaded mags on the other! Now go into public and see what happens when you do that, you will have a SWAT team up your butt in 2 secs b/c the cops here dont know the laws!
Report Post »fertlmind
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:05pmXCOR18R They Just instituted new gun laws!
Report Post »Musta not worked very well!
Maybe they should ban PEOPLE instead.
Consider the montra,…Guns don’t kill people,…People kill PEOPLE.
Maybe they can make a law that if a GUN is used to commit a murder by PEOPLE, they can have PEOPLE execute the gun!
J.C. McGlynn
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:13pmBM1776: Didn’t California do registration/confiscation around 10 years ago. I seem to remember a lot of gun owners leaving around then?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:16pmWeaken drug laws and strengthen gun laws .. .yea that works well.
Report Post »Xcori8r
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:29pmYou can outlaw guns, but you can’t outlaw stupid. No law or restriction would have kept this from happening because that kid was determined to have a loaded gun with him. All the gun laws on the books are to no avail in this situation and most other similar situations. You can’t legislate away the criminals, the stupid, the stupid criminals and the criminally stupid. Many cities and states are just legislating away the rights of law abiding citizens.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 5:15pmSolid logic! If someone can break the law, then it is clear evidence that there should be no law at all! Since laws against theft don’t always stop people from stealing cars, then we should probably make it legal!
Report Post »Xcori8r
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 5:55pmSomebody’s missing the point entirely. Of course it should not be legal to steal cars, just as it should not be legal to invade homes or to molest children.
It should be legal to shoot people who steal cars, invade homes or molest children – and you need to have a firearm available to do that.
Liberals just choose to live with car theft, burglaries and molested children.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 6:20pmIt should be legal to shoot people who steal cars? That is actually considered murder my friend.
Xcori8r
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 7:19pmNot if you only wing’em.
I don’t ever want to shoot anybody, and I would never pull the trigger unless I was in danger of bodily harm but the real issue here is the state (in this case CA, but also Chicago, DC etc.) forces millions of otherwise harmless, peace loving citizens to be vulnerable to bad guys don’t care what the state says.
It’s not about this or any other particular shooting. It’s about all of them, combined with the thousands of abductions, robberies, rapes, home invasions assaults and murders that happen each year. It’s about the changed character of society today. Too many trusting people every day find themselves not just the victim of criminals, but of starry eyed politicians and bureaucrats who do not know what they are dealing with, or if they do, they have suits or details to cover them.
Report Post »Cliff
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:39pmI was watching on TV and I think I saw Sarah and Glenn run off the scene.
Report Post »SingerGuy
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:39pmSo sad.
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:41pmGo ahead MSNBC Palin is @ it again .
Report Post »NE Cowboy
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:00pmLets see. Probably a gang banger and illegal gun. Yep……..gotta ban ALL guns!!!!!! You can just here it now……….
Report Post »1TrueOne55
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:00pmSchool District calls shooting and accidental when a student drops his backpack and critically shoots one student in the face and two others. Did this spokesman see the man on the grassy knoll in Dallas that shot at Kennedy’s head???? Or the “Magic Bullet” that fell out on the gurney in the hospital undamaged???
I smell a cover up on the Schools part since they are responsible for student safety… I bet they “Clarify the ”mis-spoken” utterance. And this idiot is in charge of running the District or those like him? No wonder school grades are falling below in International testing.
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:00pm-RobertCA-
The entire network did not “blame” Palin. If so, then provide us with the link that shows them.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:03pmThis must be a mistake .. schools are “gun free zones”.
Report Post »here today gone tomorrow
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:05pmIf guns kill people, then pencils misspell words and cars drive drunk !!
Report Post »Ironmaan
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:06pmWere any of them wearing a red G-string? If so this is absolutely the result of conservative talk. In addition this incident confirms the need to get rid of the 2nd amendment.
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RobertCA
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:06pma 15 year old student with a gun in his backpack , the backpak fell to the ground & the shot went off accidentally 2 students injured .
Report Post »Palin went too far this time .
mikem1969
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:07pmI hope those that were shot are OK, have not seen that anyone was killed yet, just transported to the hospital.
With that said, I wonder how the left will blame the right for this one.
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:08pmAlthough I must confess, MessNBC really is a shoddy network!
Report Post »Ken
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:09pmNaw, Rush did it!
Report Post »J.C. McGlynn
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:09pmMCP: You seem to forget or ignore that chris matthews, ed schlutz, keith olberrman, rachel maddow, and larry o’donnell said it for four days after the tucson shootings.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:09pmCatB, of course they gun-free zones. That’s why criminals go there to shoot people. No one will be shooting back. “Gun Free-Zones”, another liberal lie.
Report Post »GeauxAlready
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:09pmLooks like those democratic social programs failed another one……………….
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:10pm@ MIDDLECLASSPROPHET
Report Post »I don’t have to provide you with any links MSNBC & the far left loons hates Palin , just watch MSNBC & there’s your proof .
middleclassprophet
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:16pmImitation is the highest form of flattery.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:17pmTEXASCOMMONSENSE …
My poiint exactly.
Report Post »John 1776
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:18pmSo let me get this straight- He dropped his backpack and the gun went off? That would indicate that a round was chambered and the hammer cocked. I believe a loaded and cocked gun on the grounds of a school (unless you are the police, or hired security) is not legal in any of the 50 states.
No need for new gun laws as long as you enforce the ones that are already there.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:22pmYep! It‘s Palin’s fault!
Report Post »Sergio Q
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:35pmthis oughtta be an interesting one to follow-up on …not a rampage , not a revenge thing , not a gang shooting , not political , not any of the usual things expected ,simply an acedent & yet lots of variables that ALL fall under the illeagle side of things.
Report Post »HMMMMMMM !!
Cobra Blue
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:36pmNews Flash….it was the guns fault. It spontaneously combusted. Do I hear a call for more gun control. The poor sap just happened to holding onto the gun at the time.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:38pmCatB, I was agreeing with you, albeit sarcastically. Hope you didn’t misunderstand. It truly amazes me anyone would actually think calling an area “Gun-Free” would do anything to prevent school shootings.
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:47pm@TexasCommonSense
Crazed mass murders prefer their victims to be un-armed.
Report Post »Cobra Blue
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 3:48pmThere is more to this story than they are reporting. Watch…something about the shooting that they don’t want to report…could it be a terrorist? we haven’t heard the last of this one unless it goes against the media template.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:01pmWhat? No metal detectors at the doors? Clearly this student was not trained in firearm safety.
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:08pmMy prayers to the female student shot in the head & male student shot in the neck .
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:09pmCobra Blue, you could be right. It seems unlikely two people would be injured from a dropped gun. There there’s this: “A teacher is being credited with talking to the student inside a classroom and convincing him to cooperate with police”. If it were an accident why would it be necessary to convince him to cooperate? It also seems like there are too many officers for just and accident.
Report Post »BlueStrat
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:11pmThe Progs will probably call for “safety guns” where one pulls the trigger, waits 10 seconds, pulls the trigger again, wait 30 seconds, sign your name in a little “UPS-pad”-like window in the weapons’ butt, pull the trigger again, wait another 30 seconds, the gun uses built-in cellphone to call 911, sounds a loud siren, then finally fires after pulling the trigger one last time after an additional 30 seconds have passed. Average elapsed time from first trigger pull to actual firing: 120 seconds.
Missed and need a second shot? Gotta wait 24 hours to allow for a peaceful resolution. Can’t be hasty.
What, you object? Why do you hate children?!?!?
Report Post »booger71
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:14pmImitation is the highest form of flattery.
Or flatulence in your case
Report Post »booger71
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:16pmMy thoughts and prayers are with the 2 victims.
Report Post »Sam I am
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:29pmManufacturers go to great lengths to make sure firearms don’t go off accidentally. Dropped or not.
Whenever you hear, “accidentally”, think, “I was showing off and I pulled the trigger accidentally.”
Maybe Plaxico Burris was their hero.
Report Post »be heard
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:38pmSo the kid accidentally take his gun to school.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 4:43pmTruly a tragedy.
TexasCommonsense,
While we don’t yet know all the details, I find it strange that you are assuming a cover-up. You are not exactly using what anyone would call “commonsense.” There are a lot of officers there because a school shooting was reported–I’ve seen half-a-dozen cops standing around a fender bender!
As far as convincing the kid to cooperate, don‘t you think you’d be a little rattled and scared after just accidently shooting one of your classmates in the head? Don’t you think the kid was feeling a little desperate?
We don’t have all the details yet, so don’t go starting up the whole spin machine.
Report Post »ltb
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 5:11pmImitation is the highest form of flattery.
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Or flatulence in your case
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Booger71, I don’t know what you meant but I’m still laughing.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 5:18pmPubliusPencilman, relax; I was just making a few observations. It’s not like I was blaming a former VP candidate or anything.
Report Post »c10win
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 5:22pmPrayers for the 2 kids that were injured. Maybe the ‘o’ can fly some union boys out there and they can hold another pep rally, I mean memorial service. msnbc now reporting that Sarah Palin has a map of the United States, including CA, therefore she actually caused this accident. Sure wish I was in the T-Shirt business!
Report Post »diesel71dan
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 6:53pmCATB………This must be a mistake .. schools are “gun free zones”.
EXACTLY!!! Ever notice that the “gun free zones” are always the shooting galleries? Schools, federal buildings, Post office, etc. When was the last time you heard of a lunatic shooting and killing a bunch of people at a gun show, shooting range, hunt club or NRA/ GOA event or any other place that everyone is armed. But then again, who would expect a Liberal to use facts, logic or anything else except promote their idiotic agenda
Report Post »snidley-whiplash
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 10:19pmYou bring your knife………I’ll bring my gun! Now they listen to obama.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:25ambeheard..thats exactly what I thought…I know southern california schools are rough…but wow…definetly more to this story…
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on January 19, 2011 at 8:19amjeez, another wtf moment.
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on January 19, 2011 at 11:01amInteresting.
Let’s see how many “things” were wrong with this whole “incident”.
– The firearm was on school grounds. Oops! Strike 1.
- The gun was in a backpack. Obviously not a rifle or any type of long gun, which would be too big to fit in a backpack. If it was a sawed off shotgun, it would have been buckshot, not a bullet. So, it’s clearly a handgun.
In my state, you have to be 21 to own handguns and from what I can tell from a brief Internet search, this is also true in California. Strike 2!!
- Since Glock is the only manufacturer that does not have a safety on their guns (the owner is the SAFETY) , it would have to be either a Glock (serious firepower) or another type of handgun being transported with a load magazine in it, the safety off and a bullet in the chamber. I’m willing to bet that there was no trigger lock on it, either.
If the gun was a “Saturday night special” type, it may have been modified by the previous owner and had a faulty safety or a “modified” firing pin, which could result in an accidental discharge, but the student is clearly already in serious trouble and having a hot weapon will just add to it.
Strike 3!!! and 4 and 5 and possibly 6!!!!
Oh yeah, and then he held a class as hostages. I’ll count those students all as one. That brings us up to 7.
If either of the two students who were seriously wounded dies, well, then, the deep kimchee really begins.
My prayers go out to the two victims for their full and complete recovery. And to their families during this horrific, stressful time.
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