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Atheist Group Demands Removal of Select Military Bibles & Calls Them a ‘Threat to National Security’

LifeWay Military Bibles Can No Longer Feature Official Seals | Military Religious Freedom FoundationThe drama over Bibles in the military seems to be heating up, with church-state separatist groups setting their sights on ensuring that the holy book’s influence — and presence — declines in the ranks.

The Blaze previously reported about the Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers (MAAF) success in convincing the Air Force to remove Bibles from a required room-preparation checklist. Now, another secularist group — the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) — is taking efforts further, calling select military Bibles a “threat to national security.”

In what will surely raise eyebrows among those who have traditionally appreciated the military’s often Christian undertones, officials have revoked approval for a series of military-themed Bibles. This action was purportedly taken, as Fox News Todd Starnes notes, over trademark issues (or rather: an overt decision to no longer allow the images to be utilized).

(Related: Air Force Bows to Atheist Complaints: Will Remove Bible Requirement for On-Base Lodging)

In addition to protesting the Bibles that have now been banned, the MRFF, seeing a ripe opportunity to further its anti-Bible activism, is now demanding that the remaining books be removed from base exchanges (stores). The atheists claim that the books, which have official branch insignias on them, pose a risk to U.S. national security.

LifeWay Military Bibles Can No Longer Feature Official Seals | Military Religious Freedom FoundationStarnes has more about the Bibles and the controversy surrounding them:

The military series of Bibles were published by B&H Publishing, a division of LifeWay Christian Resources of the Southern Baptist Convention, the nation’s largest non-Catholic denomination. They published four versions of the Holman Christian Standard Bible – representing the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps.

The Bibles are tailored to each specific military branch. For example, the cover of the Marine version says “The Marines’ Bible” – along with the USMC emblem. The Bibles contain special prayers and devotional material for military personnel.

But the Military Religious Freedom Foundation complained that the Bibles were an official endorsement by the U.S. Military. They alleged the Bibles not only violated the U.S. Constitution, but also violated Defense Department regulations.

Now, the military will no longer allow for the use of official branch logos on these Bibles. While LifeWay initially secured the permission to use the insignias back in 2003, they were recently informed that they may no longer use them.

“We received notice last year from the various branches withdrawing authorization,” a spokesman for LifeWay told Starnes. “After selling existing inventory of those bibles, B&H replaced the official seals with generic insignias which continue to sell well and provide spiritual guidance and comfort to those who serve.”

LifeWay Military Bibles Can No Longer Feature Official Seals | Military Religious Freedom FoundationThe military is claiming that the revocation had nothing at all to do with religion, but the MRFF seems to indicate its belief that anti-theist advocacy is what led to the trademark change-of-heart.

“If their logos are being placed on a particular version of Christianity – particularly when we are engaged in a war with fundamentalist Muslims that are trying to view this as a cosmic war between Jesus and Allah – it’s a security threat,” MRFF spokesperson Mikey Weinstein said of the Bibles. “It’s neither a problem, it’s not an issue or a challenge. It’s a national security threat.”

As stated, in addition to protesting the emblems — a problem that has now been solved — the atheist group is also demanding that any remaining Bibles that have the insignias be immediately removed from being sold on military bases. Starnes explains:

According to a letter from the chief of the Air Force Trademark Licensing Program, the Air Force withdrew LifeWay’s authority to use their trademarks in 2011. The Air Force did allow LifeWay to deplete its existing stock through ongoing sales.

Weinstein said his organization had absolutely no problem with regular Bibles being sold at base stores, but he said the military-themed Bibles were in violation of the law.

“The Bible by itself is fine to be sold,” Weinstein told Fox News Radio. But he said they also want the remaining stock removed from base stores.

“Replace those Bibles with those that don’t have the emblems,” he said.

Currently, there are fewer than 1,000 of these Bibles on military exchange shelves across the country.

(H/T: Fox News)

Comments (181)

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  • Walter P
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 10:30am

    So, if I understand their thinking correctly…9/11 happened because we allowed these Military Bibles to exist, be printed and sold on military bases. My personal feeling is that MAAF & MRFF are national security risks. As is any person or organization that tries to separate us from out Judeo-Christian foundation.

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 1:48pm

      As a two service veteran, all I can say is, “Amen.”

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    • Bryan B
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 3:18pm

      Atheist are putting themselves in a position not to be invited to anything. Atheist have become the wet-blankets of our society, and no on will invite a wet-blanket to the party…..

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    • Eagle19
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 4:17pm

      The biggest threats to our liberty and way of life are these activist athiests. They need to get a life, it is obvious they don’t have much of one. My favorite bumper sticker “America, Love It or Leave It”.
      If athiests don’t like it here, perhaps they should think about that. My final comment to activist athiests is, stop stomping on everyone else’s liberty.

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    • ChristopherBlackwell
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 7:18pm

      Actually you are wrong, though it was not mentioned in the article but the 96% of the members in the Military Religious Freedom Foundation are Christian. Most Christians do believe in the separation of Church and State.Nor are Bibles being denied for sale.It is only the matter of using military emblems that give the impression that the military branches are endorsing a given religion. The same complaint would be done if any other religious books were to appear with our US Military Emblems embossed on them. Our country has members in all the worlds religions, even tribal ones, in the military, and includes non religious people as well. As long as they are all risking their lives for our country, the military show not be seen as pushing one religion over another. Freedom of religion means freedom for all of them, not the chosen few, and it must include the right not to believe.
      As a Marine Vietnam Veteran, I can say we never saw this overt push to push Christianity in the Marine Corp back then, no push to any religion in the battle field. It has never been the job of the military to convert people to Christianity or any other religion. Even so it has been a hard long fight to get true religious freedom in the military like we have now. I remember my oath: To protect the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic. I am sorry for veterans who have forgotten their oath. I have not.

       
    • Bryan B
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:10pm

      @ChristopherBlackwell

      I don’t believe you sir at all, not one word that you have said. And I don’t believe you ever served United States Marines. And I‘ll tell you why I don’t believe you.

      The Motto of a Marine Corps Riffle Company is “Unit, God, Corps, Country, To Think of others before you think of yourself.”

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 11:14pm

      When preparing for the Iraq war, Donald Rumsfeld continually gave George W. Bush defense briefings that contained covers of solders with bible versus promoting warfare/defending the faith/defending country, etc.

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    • MCDAVE
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 11:55pm

      It’s time to recognize that the atheist are a religious belief too..the Fed government has adopted the atheist point of view and is forcing it on all Americans..This is unconstitutional..

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:13am

      WALTER P, Wll said. I agree with you.

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    • maverick4harlot
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:49am

      Oh God yes, we must remove the Christian and Jewish bibles from military bases so that people like Nidal Malik Hasan who has been charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted murder cannot use the Christian or Jewish bible against us. They have the right to use the MUSLIM bible but we have no rights at all to clearly and openly express our beliefs lest we be murdered by those of the muslim faith because liberals believe we are racist. I will say this once. I wear a crucifix openly. If ANYONE EVER comes and tells me I am offending them because of my open religious beliefs, you WILL find me in the NATIONAL news. Dont EVER come to Daytona Beach Florida or surrounding areas. I will NOT remove my bible from my flea market table, I will NOT remove my white gold crucifix from your site because it offends you. ThIS IS THE united states of america where everyone has the right to speak their mind and heart but do NOT ever try to FORCE your beliefs on me. You truly dont want to meet me. We WILL make NATIONAL HEADLINES. You DONT want that. STAY AWAY.

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    • maverick4harlot
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 2:41am

      These people that claim that anything open about christian beliefs is unconstitutional had better damn well get ahold of themselves. I wear a white gold crucifix. I have worn a crucifix since I turned 20. I am now 45. God help anyone that should state that I am offending them by showing my crucifix.. Somebody had better get these IDIOTS TO CONTROL themselves. Well how about this. Mohammed is a pedophile idiot that should be tortured into submission. Oh I dont want him to die. I just prefer to torture him for at least 6 months Now lets get real. REALLY real……..
      To understand the savagery of Islam, you just need to understand the founder and moral standard bearer of Islam, Muhammed. Muhammed was a sadistic sociopath, a mass murderer, a serial rapist, a perverted child rapist, a human slaver and slave trafficker, a looting stealing thief, a barbaric torturer, a savage limb amputator, an obsessed head chopping decapitator, an abusive misogynist, an intolerant bigot, a perfidious liar, a sex slaver and sex trafficker, a genocidist and self proclaimed Islamic terrorist. Muhammed was by every measure an anti-Christ…perhaps THE anti-Christ. In Muhammed you have the answer to Islamic violence, hatred and torment.
      ~ The Infidel Alliance
      To those that have decide 2 hate me……. I live at 5887 Azalea St Port Orange Florida 321`27
      I’M ITALIAN, PART OF THE LaPAGLIA FAMILY. LETS TALK….. BITCH. Those that think I should hide my crucifix.. RUN. RUN HARD. RUN FAST. LUVTAMEETY

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    • USMCEOD
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:39am

      My Father is a southern baptist preacher. When I left for boot camp over a decade ago he gave me a Marine’s Bible. I have carried it in every war zone. It kept me sane and grounded in the worst of times. He signed it with a message that says “Son, the lessons needed to live a successful life are in this book. It has guided my life for as long as I can remember. Hide it’s words in your heart and let it lead you in all your decisions.” It is one of my most prized possessions. If it is a threat to national security, then I am a greater threat then the department of homeland security already believes I am.

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    • Wolf
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 7:47am

      An military ignorant of God and morals is a barbarian horde.
      These idiots will reap what they sow.

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    • holy ghostbuster
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 8:13am

      @ BryanB – Christopherblackwell stated “oath” not “motto,” and he is correct. Also, I believe the Marine Corps motto is Semper Fidelis (Always Faithful.) Finally, I find it interesting that your “motto,“ puts ”Unit” before God. I think you are a poser.

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    • ChristopherBlackwell
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 11:47am

      Bryan B,

      It does not matter what you choose to believe about me. Your belief or lack of it does not change the fact that I served in the Marine Corp in Vietnam in the fall of 66 to the fall of 67. But if we gong to talk about belief does your service depend on whether I believe you or not about?

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    • Flag-Man
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 2:15pm

      Another Amen
      Semper Fi

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    • weisja4
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 2:34pm

      except that we are a secular nation, and religion has no place in our government or military

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    • Bryan B
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 7:33pm

      @ChristopherBlackwell

      I have met some low lifes before, but you really take the cake.

      Not only are you a fake, but you actually took the name of a recently discharged Marine and a real veteran.

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  • Uncurable wound
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 10:29am

    Enough!If you choose the hand of war,then so be it!

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  • SAS6907
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 10:27am

    A few of the post mentioned this: JESUS said, ” if you are not for me, you are against me”.
    If you are friends of the world, then you are an enemy to God.
    No one can serve two masters.
    You can not say “freedom of religion” and then want to ban the bible. The very thought of doing that is what is prophesized in the bible…That’s why the devil wants it banned, he’s afraid people might actually read it and be saved.

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    • fastgunslinger
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 5:38pm

      well said

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 11:16pm

      I still can’t help but laugh when the Blaze posted that one story of that branch of the military that had the slogan, “doing God‘s work with other people’s money.”

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    • ChristopherBlackwell
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:05pm

      No one is trying to ban the Bible, just not use official Military symbols on them as though they were being endorsed by the branches of the military. so stick to the facts.

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    • ChristopherBlackwell
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:14pm

      Strange that is not mentioned in our Constitution.

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  • carl1000
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 10:17am

    These Atheist suck…

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    • Cesium
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 4:17pm

      Yea, they don’t represent most atheists.. Most atheists keep to themselves, and you’d never really know they exist otherwise. Many atheists even go to church or temple with family and don’t care or want to convince others their beliefs are inane and create tension.. I know my boss is like this… and he‘s admitted to me he’s had arguments with his wife about the irrationality of religion but his kids still go to sunday school and he goes to church with them. heHalso has very religious friends whom I have met. One of them seems to always bring up god or pray before eating.. My boss just smiles and goes with it, even joins in.. but he is an atheist.. and no one will get him counted as a statistic on it. multiply people like him times a million.

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    • Quiata
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 7:29am

      @CESIUM Let’s play a little word game with your statement:

      “Yea, they don’t represent most believers.. Most believers keep to themselves, and you’d never really know they exist otherwise. Many believers even go to colleges and universities and don’t care or want to convince others their lack of beliefs are inane and create tension.. I know my boss is like this… and he‘s admitted to me he’s had arguments with his wife about the irrationality of secular society but his kids still go to public school and he goes to ‘Winter Holiday’ performances with them. heHalso [sic] has very atheistic friends whom I have met. One of them seems to always bring up evolution or global warming before eating.. My boss just smiles and goes with it, even joins in.. but he is an believer.. and no one will get him counted as a statistic on it. multiply people like him times a million.”

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    • SoDakUSA
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 9:41am

      Quiata-
      Nicely Done~

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    • ChristopherBlackwell
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:02pm

      No more than all Christians suck. Most are pretty nice people, but then you have your crazies in all groups, even Christians.what a shame that you appear incapable of a thoughtful response rather than childish outbursts.

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    • Quiata
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 6:41pm

      @CHRISTOPHERBLACKWELL Slow down, Chris. Correction: CARL1000 said “these”, as in “these particular”; he did not say “all”. He is quite correct. Some atheists do, in fact, suck.

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  • HKS
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 10:10am

    They got that right, an atheist is a threat to National Security by definition.

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    • StonyBurk
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 1:48pm

      Atheists are,especially of late, a threat to the peace and good order of any community .They were NOT
      the group that established these United States of America -but so want to usurp the rightful rule of the
      descendants of those who did establish a Christian nation in this New world 1492–1892.

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 11:21pm

      Yup, totally a Christian nation.

      I just loving reading the Constitution and seeing Jesus’s name plastered all throughout it.

      I also love how our Constitution lines up exactly with Christianity, especially the 10 commandments.

      1st commandment
      “Thou shalt have no other God’s before me.”
      1st amendment to the Constitution contains, “Freedom of religion.”
      Wow, they are almost exactly the same!

      2nd commandment,
      “Thou shalt make no graven images.”
      1st amendment
      “Freedom of expression.”
      There you go again, they fit exactly in line!

      Need I go on or do you need more examples of how this isn’t a Christian nation?

      It is a secular nation of a group of founders, most Christian, some deists, some atheists who eventually agreed that everyone is free to believe what they want, but that no religion should get any special notoriety but Government. Sure there have been numerous Presidents who break the Constitution, just like they did when they wrote about “freedom, liberty, pursuit of happiness” while owning slaves.

      Just because the founders wrote the Constitution, didn‘t mean they weren’t doing things unconstitutional.

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    • holy ghostbuster
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 8:15am

      @ Moderationisbest – Nice one!

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    • ChristopherBlackwell
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:13pm

      No more than some of our Christians who seem to hate the Constitution of the United States and want to replace it with some form of Christian Theocracy. What they want seems to be rights only for Christians and no one else. Sorry but the Constitution does not recognize special rights for Christians.That is the reason it states that no religious test can be used for right of office. They knew when they set that up that it would open the way to Atheists, Muslims, even Pagans to take office. Our forefathers had quite a discussion on what they meant before putting that into our Constitution. Gee all the nifty stuff they forgot to teach in school history.

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    • gofer1
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 11:45pm

      Why did the founders sign the Constitution “in the Year of Our Lord”? They also established a Congressional Chaplain.

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  • rickc34
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 10:09am

    The atheist calls for tolerance but hate christians and the Bible. Why don’t the go after the muslims because they are afraid of what would happen. Millions of homes across America have at least one Bible but. How many are read? No one is forced to read the Bible unless they choose to do so. This Nation is sliding down morally and there are those that believe if they can get God out of the way then it would be ok but you cannot because if God is God he is everywhere and know everything. Removing his woord does not remove him he will not act unless asked but will watch as prophecy is fulfilled

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    • ChristopherBlackwell
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 11:57am

      Since when is simply not believing hating Christianity or God. No it would seem here from the posts that we have some Christians who are big on hating atheists,who have been part of this nation from the beginning just as Pagans have been. Even our constitution borrows from the Great law of Peace from Iroquois Confederation. Amazing the things we Americans are ignorant of about our own history. Shall we add the concept of republic and democracy which came to us from Pagan Greece and Pagan Rome. Such concepts did not exist in Christian Europe of the time of our Revolution.

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  • Listen_then_think
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 10:06am

    Atheists are satanists. These outspoken, sue happy atheists are really Satanists because if they were true atheists they wouldn’t care.

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    • ChristopherBlackwell
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:20pm

      No that would requiring believing in Satan, which would mean that they were either Christians or Muslims.

      Lack of belief in a god, does not mean a belief in a devil. Buddhism also does not believe in a god.
      Why does it bother you so, their lack of belief should have no affect on your belief. Is your belief really that fragile?

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  • kat747
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 10:02am

    The THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY is sitting in the Oval Office. Why don’t these atheists do something good for a change and work on that threat ?

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  • Pontiac
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 10:02am

    “OMG, THEY’RE BANNING OUR BIBLES!”
    No… No they’re not. Learn to read.

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    • SquidVetOhio
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 12:36pm

      No, they’re just taking the first step at it. You say learn to read? You should learn to read between the lines.

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 2:04pm

      No, they’re not banning the bibles, but are you really making the argument that the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) isn’t trying to incrementally seperate any facet of religion from every facet of government, to include the military?

      How long do you think it’s going to be before any of these groups go after Chaplains and on base chapels?

      In short, yeah, what SquidVetOhio said. Mock and deride all you like but the fact is you’re either a total moron who is ignoring the ultimate objective of both the MAAF & MRFF because you think it’s too far fetched (obviously, it’s not), or you agree wholeheartedly with removing us from our covenant with God, in which case His wrath will be upon us.

      BTW: Don‘t think for a second that both groups aren’t one and the same. I’d bet my house that the majority of both groups are also members of either the other one or the FFRF.

      Leave the practice of religion in government alone!

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 5:30pm

      [isn’t trying to incrementally seperate any facet of religion from every facet of government,]
      Is religion a legitimate function of government? Should government be in the business of picking and choosing which religions it will endorse or cater to? Should it not also sell Korans with USMC logo’s on them? Should the bible, or any religious book, be propagandized by the government?

      My goodness, just bring your own bible and shuddup…

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  • nzkiwi
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:49am

    When I read stories like this, and they seem to pop up every two or three weeks now, I can’t help but feel a little embarrassed (because I am an atheist).

    I wish that they would just shut up and let everyone live their own lives.

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    • affinity
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 10:01am

      This really isn’t a war between Atheists and Christians. The Jews fund and run all of the primary atheist organizations in America. What Christians often forget is that Jews aren’t Christians but Christians are Jews. Christians should simply stop serving in the military and let the atheists defend themselves or hire mercenaries.

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 10:04am

      as a Christian Jew I thank you for your tolerance of others. seriously these stories make me sick and it is nice to hear the live and let live attitude from athiests and agnostics like yourself as these types of stories seem to control the headlines.

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    • mandmsgirl
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 4:10pm

      affinity
      are you seriously that intolerant or do you just not respect God? It says all through his word that we must respect His people and honor the Jewish people or we will suffer, you sir, have no class

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  • graceunderfire
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:41am

    The men and women in the Armed Forces have the right to whatever bibile they want. They do not have to buy one if they don’t want to.

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  • rich43068
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:33am

    “engaged in a war with fundamentalist Muslims that are trying to view this as a cosmic war between Jesus and Allah”

    Yep, a war between good and evil … couldn’t have said it better!

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    • Jumper
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:58am

      Exactly, except saying fundamentalist Muslim is redundant. It’s just Muslim, they’re all the same.

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  • momrules
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:27am

    The intent of these atheist groups is not the removal of Bibles, military or otherwise. Their intent is the removal of God from America.
    America is becoming a third world nation, a cesspool and we can thank the courts and the militant atheists for the large part they have played in the downfall of a once great nation.

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 10:06am

      you are spot on. these militant athiests are angry at God. That is why they seek to destroy and remove Him from society. if they weren’t angry where is the live and let live why are they so hellbent on the destruction of others beliefs and rights to worship as desired? it is insanity I am sick of my tax dollars being wasted on these court battles.

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    • ChristopherBlackwell
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:26pm

      Gee making up your own straw man.You cannot possible speak for anyone but yourself, and you certainly do not have the ability to read minds of people that you do not like. Your false claims only show your weakness of character. It is also unChristian, or don’t you believe in the Ten Commandments.

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    • ChristopherBlackwell
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:30pm

      Horse feathers.Do you think that making false claims strengthens your argument. Playing the victim is silly.

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  • SLOWBIDEN
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:23am

    I was a lay reader in Marine Corps boot camp and I can tell you that prayer and worship helps these young guys. Especially in time of war these soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines need God to help them through. If you try to take away God, not only would that be futile, that would be a threat to national security.

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    • gofer1
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 11:54pm

      How many atheists do you find in a foxhole during a firefight?

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    • SovereignSoul
      Posted on June 23, 2012 at 1:40am

      I’m not sure of their religious affiliation, but I know plenty who were cursing everyone and everything and using the Lord’s name in vain profusely if that helps.

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  • Warpspeedpetey
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:15am

    Typical atheist BS.

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  • lukerw
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:14am

    I DEMAND removal… of Gays & Atheists… as a Threat to this Nation’s SECURITY!

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  • tweetybird
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:10am

    The USA is so screwed. God will not tolerate this any longer. How much longer do we have before God judges this nation serverly? It is actions like this (along with the murder of millions of babies and treating Israel like garbage) that the USA is not mentioned in the Bible concerning the last days. We destroy ourselves by kicking out God. It saddens me that there are people out there that have this much hate in them. How I do have compassion for their lost souls. People with no understanding what-so-ever. Fools….all of them.

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    • Locked
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 11:06am

      “God will not tolerate this any longer. How much longer do we have before God judges this nation serverly?”

      Well, if your first sentence is true, then immediately. Otherwise it’s a lie to say God will not tolerate this any longer.

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  • HumbleCitizen
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:04am

    God’s word has been under attack for decades. In our lifetime you will see CHRISTIAN bibles outlawed as “hate speech”. I wouldn’t be surprised to find Christianity outlawed as well. According to Scripture, all Christians will be routed out and killed.

    http://www.wnd.com/2003/09/20862/
    http://www.rense.com/general78/calif.htm

    Once homosexuality was deemed acceptable, then the bible has to go because it condems their lifestyle choice. There can be NOTHING that will be allowed to speak against homosexuality.

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    • spellwight
      Posted on June 15, 2012 at 3:41pm

      A bit paranoid, aren’t you?

      The fact is anyone can carry any religious tract they want. What is NOT allowed is the military – a government agency – putting their stamp of approval on any one religious tract over another. Bibles will continue to be available to those who want them. Geesh. Lighten up!

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  • Wildape
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:03am

    When you sign up to be in the military a lot of your rights are suspended in many areas. Among the few rights that remain is the freedom of religion.and yet these aetheist psychopaths would have even that removed because it offends their sensibilities. They risk destroying good order and discipline and creating mutiny in the ranks. That is a bigger threat to national security than the aetheist’s perceived slights from their myopic lens that they view the world through.

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  • Locked
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:02am

    “Currently, there are fewer than 1,000 of these Bibles on military exchange shelves across the country.”

    On the plus side, this means said Bibles might become collector’s editions for military personnel!

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    • CougarNick78
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:59am

      Collector’s Item? That’s sad when a vocal minority prohibits free speech. The Nazis must be proudly beeming from hell over this perversion.

      And thank you stupid lawyers and armchair generals who placate these godless thugs. Once upon a time the military would have drummed out fools like these….now the Wesley Clark UN types and the Admiral Mullen Quislings run the Pentagon, and are running it into the ground…..

      What books do you atheists want to replace the Bible with?

      Here’s their selection- Karl Marx’s Communist Manifesto, Karl Marx’s Das Capital, Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky, Mein Kampf, anything by Richard Dawkins, Bertrand Russell, etc. etc.

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    • Locked
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 10:51am

      “Collector’s Item? That’s sad when a vocal minority prohibits free speech. ”

      According to the article, it‘s because the printer’s contract to use military symbols on their Bibles ran out last year and was not renewed. I suppose that’s a restriction of free speech, but the alternative would be copyright infringement. As the article itself says: “After selling existing inventory of those bibles, B&H replaced the official seals with generic insignias which continue to sell well and provide spiritual guidance and comfort to those who serve.”

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  • Krutch
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 8:58am

    God will get those atheists for this!!
    Really, why is it that a small lot of load idiots can force the majority to bend to their will? What we need is to tell those rabble to shut the **** up!
    Maybe they should be ‘bible boarded’. Make them listen to scripture 18 hours a day for months.

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    • closetotheedge
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:45am

      Yes, The bible scares the hell out of them and it’s the most dangerous book ever written. The fear of God is the beginging of wisdom. Like you say,it takes only 1 person to stop a prayer in school or the graduation that speaks of Jesus or of God the Father. They can try to destroy the bible as many have tried thru the centuies,only to be found in error of the truth written all along the pages. Just to say Jesus as our Lord and Savior can get you thrown in jail,or in Muslum lands,torture and death. I am affended at the way people use the name of Jesus to slander as they make a point.Why can’t they say ” Sam,dam it!? As for bibles given to our service members,great! But the Chaplains can’t pray in the name of Jesus by orders from the top,via Oba n his minions because they are so blinded by satan that they rage again’st anyone who professies that Jesus is our Lord n Savior. Soon it will be a time here in the USA that any mention of Him will get you jailed and a death sentence will follow. Our men n women who serve our country deserve to have the very best we can do for them and if they are denied the Bible by a few idiots,just confront them for who they are and demand our rights to serve Jesus or not. In the 70s’ the Army had to give rights to the church of satan cuz a few demented ones demand freedom to worship who or what they want. Sad in heart,but it is our freedom and theirs’. Choose wisely. on the edge of time…..

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 11:34am

      I do not support their move, . . . mostly because I don’t care. Many of our military men/women are christian in faith.

      However, I want to respond to “they are scared of the bible. . . . “. I can assure you that I have no more fear of the bible than I do of a fiction horror story. The bible [for me] has about the same level of concern [which is none].

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    • RailRoadCar9
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 1:47am

      as much as these people say they dont believe in God it really just seams they are afraid of him, you dont want to believe thats fine but i dont need these nazis trying to tell me what i should believe , they fear the message of God which is why they are doing everything possible to drive God from the public view , you cant claim making a career of attacking symbols of faith isnt trying to push your Religious views which is what atheism really is

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  • NHwinter
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 8:56am

    Some way or another this has got to be turned around on them. Enough of this small minority telling the majority what they can or cannot do. Common sense and decency must prevail.

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  • chameleonx
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 8:56am

    I believe atheist and other secular groups should donate books to counter the bible. Books that challenge religion and promote reason.

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:07am

      chameleonx, what is the reason you were born and what is the reason you live and die? Why is there extraordinary order in the universe? Why are all living things so complex and precise?

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    • chameleonx
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:15am

      I would say science. From nature to the laws of space. Religion doesn’t impact my life as much as science does. I will admit I’m not an expert. However, if I was rich or was able to donate money to share books and movies about science and reason than I’ll do it.

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    • CougarNick78
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:44am

      Would you prefer Mein Kampf or Karl Marx Manifesto or Mao’s Little Red Book? You want an atheist army? Go to China or the former USSR.

      No one wants you here.

      and as far as that there’s no atheists in foxholes saying goes…. There are too atheists in foxholes. They are either shooting at you from the other side of no man’s land, or shooting you from behind, supposedly in your own ranks.

      Disloyal at best….

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    • chameleonx
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:57am

      I would love to go to Sweden or Japan. Both countries have a large population of atheist and non-believers. You do know America is not a Christian nation and there is separation between church and state?
      http://churchandstate.org.uk/2012/01/5-founding-fathers-whose-skepticism-about-christianity-would-make-them-unelectable-today/

      In Hitler‘s Mein Kampf that promote Hitler’s belief in Christianity. I believe Marx was a critic of religion. But the Communist Manifesto or Mao’s Little Red Book are not atheism but books about economics and politics.
      http://www.nobeliefs.com/hitler.htm

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 10:07am

      chameleonx – The most important thing that atheist forget when they reply with “science” is that there is a source behind the origin of science. You are reading the wrong books. Read some of David Barton’s books on the founders. Also, separation of church and state is not in the Constitution. The Constitution clearly state that you cannot prohit the free exercise of religion.

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 10:20am

      Hitler and the secret Satanic cult – Unexplained Mysteries …
      This room was the central temple of the Satanic cult that created and directed Germany’s Nazi party. This so called Vril Society counted many of Hitler’s henchmen …
      http://www.theunexplainedmysteries.com/hitler-satanic.html – Cached

      I believe there is a lot of evidence that says Hitler was a Satanist. Marx needed to do away with Christianity to accomplish his goals. Christianity is a stumbling block to Communism/Marxism/Socialism/Progressivism.

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    • chameleonx
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 10:35am

      I will have to respectfully disagree. I’m not a fan of Pseudo-History. David Barton has been exposed and many conspiracy theorist will Hitler more than a pretzel.
      http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/06/11/on-welfare-youre-probably-not-reading-the-bible-enough/
      http://www.pfaw.org/rww-in-focus/barton-s-bunk-religious-right-historian-hits-the-big-time-tea-party-america

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    • CougarNick78
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 11:02am

      @ Cameltoe….you’re a d–che, you’ve always been a d–che….. Really, David Barton is a liar, so is Howard Zinn your cup of tea? Karl Marx wanted religion out of the way, so his ilk could be the gods on earth. That’s what you libs want, dominance. Sweden and Japan, ah yes, good little godless paradise lands you like…… Sweden- part of West Europe, no surprise on their secular bent, which you no doubt approve of glowingly. Japan- different, as they used to be predominantly Buddhist and Shintoist, til, oh yeah WWII when their god Emperor lost to the the stupid Anglos and other non Japanese….. Yeah, Sweden the part of Europe that sat by while America saved one half of Europe from the other Half… and Japan, the Nazis of the Far East who got b##ch slapped…. These are your heroes? Camel….you’re also pathetic.

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    • SquidVetOhio
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 12:54pm

      “Books that challenge religion and promote reason.”

      You should try the Bible. That’s exactly what it does. Most of the Bible is a rebuke to people for corrupting God’s commandments and creating their own religion.

      Christianity is not a religion. It is a relationship. It is a status of either redeemed to God or separated from God. Christ requires no pilgrimmage, no religious token of merit. He just requires your faith and obedience and to be made first in your life. We all have to obey some authority. Might as well be the One who offers an eteranal life and more importantly, an escape from eternal wrath.

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    • Elena2010
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:27am

      BZ Squidvet! You hit the nail on the head – being in Christ is being in relationship w/God and humanity. It’s not a set of rules that you follow for salvation. Rules are followed out of love and respect for God who gave those rules for our benefit and safety! Thus we become like St Paul – all things are lawful but not all things are helpful.

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  • hidden_lion
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 8:49am

    Atheists are a threat to national security

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  • RightPolitically
    Posted on June 13, 2012 at 8:49am

    Remove all practicing Muslims from the country, not the Bible. Theirs is not a religion, IT IS A VIOLENT CULT which should be outlawed in the United States by an act of congress.

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    • Docrow
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 9:25am

      yup

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    • artman54
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 10:04am

      Amen !

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    • randja
      Posted on June 13, 2012 at 1:08pm

      AS fast as we can before our nation is destroyed completely by these animals , even if islam used to be faith it has been hijacked by terrorist and extremist . they are worthy of only on thing in our world and that it for us to see it destroyed for the cult it is

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    • YouAreMistakenSir
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 8:37am

      Tolerance isn’t hard. Yet here we are, calling fellow human beings animals. You, more than anything else show whats wrong with our political system. “People who disagree with me aren’t people.” Islam isn’t a cult but you sir, are a fool.

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    • SovereignSoul
      Posted on June 14, 2012 at 12:10pm

      @Rightpolitically
      So, are you implying that when the founding fathers wrote, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;” they were stupid and short-sighted?

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