Atheists ‘Hijack’ The Blaze’s Adam and Eve Creation Poll — But Why?
- Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:00am by
Billy Hallowell
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On Tuesday, The Blaze penned a piece that posed the following question to readers: Are some evangelicals beginning to question the existence of Adam and Eve?
As is the case in all of the faith articles we compose, it was our goal to raise the question and then allow our audience to respond accordingly. So, at the end of the article, we decided to include a poll that asks a very simple and related question: How did mankind come about?
Many regular Blaze readers voted. But so did others — people who had a very different motivation for taking the poll.
A group of atheists, after feeling angst about the initial results of the poll favoring God-inspired creation, launched a mini-campaign, spread the word and purposefully “hijacked” the thoughtful poll so that the results landed in their favor (i.e. that humanity evolved without God’s involvement).
It wasn’t long after the poll was posted that something seemed odd with the results and the sources from which they were emerging. In addition to inflated anti-God numbers, we noticed that thousands (more than 5,000 at the time) of responses had come from Norway — an oddity considering The Blaze’s coverage, focus and readership.
Thus, we were forced to close the statistical breakdown to the public and investigate. Below, see the potential choices respondents could opt for:
As you’ll notice, these poll options offered a variety of perspective on the matter. There is even an option for people who are currently unsure regarding whether they believe evolution, God or a mixture of the two spawned humanity. While the poll was quickly compromised, initially (for the first hour or two), the results were not entirely surprising (remember, these polls we conduct are not “scientific,” nor are they nationally representative; we’re simply interested in what our audience thinks about matters of importance).
In the early evening on Tuesday, directly following the polls publication, 75.16 percent of those responding chose the “God created man in present form, as per the Genesis story.” And, 17.52 percent said that “God created man and the universe, but scientific evolution occurred.” Only 4.55 percent chose that “man evolved without God’s creation or intervention.” These numbers were unacceptable to a group of atheists.
The Blaze began to notice the proportions within the poll evolving and changing. Suddenly, the atheistic, “no God” version of creation was gaining steam. As Tuesday progressed and Wednesday came, we realized that something was awry. As it turns out, a prominent atheist and professor of biology at The University of Minnesota–Morris, named Dr. PZ Myers, was behind the statistical changes. On Tuesday, Myers ignited a mini firestorm when he wrote a blog piece entitled, “Glenn Beck has a very silly poll.” It read:
His site, The Blaze, has an article about these crazy conservative Christians who disagree with the mainstream view that there were precisely two people, Adam and Eve, who founded the whole human race. And it has a poll which is going in a predictable direction for wacky Beck. [...]
Maybe we can change some of those numbers around.
He also posted a link to the article on Twitter:
Notice the last part of his blog post. This battle cry was the spark that set the entire change ablaze (no pun intended). Following the post, Myers’ loyal followers (he has a popular blog where he discusses his atheism and he has nearly 74,000 Twitter followers) began posting comments on his blog, clearly highlighting their effort to prevent Blaze readers from participating in the Adam and Eve poll. Their efforts to “hijack” the poll began almost immediately.
At 6:07 p.m. on Tuesday evening (just a few hours after the original Blaze article was posted), a comment by “Spanish Inquisitor” read, “Almost up to 7% in less than 15 minutes.” Here, the poster was commenting on the low support for the “Man evolved without God’s creation or intervention” in the poll, which the group was seeking to change. At 7:52 p.m., another commenter wrote:
Up to 34%. I voted early and often, and posted it on the chat for PET. Rarely vote multiple times but I really dislike Glenn Beck.
As the comments progressed, they made clear the group’s intention to destroy the poll, forcing the results to come up favorable to their own cause.
But whatever happened to making a solid case and then fairly proving it? What was the point of these atheists’ time-sucking exploits?
On Wednesday evening, I had the opportunity to speak with Myers about his anti-poll sentiment and the resulting activity on behalf of his atheist friends. The discussion was intriguing. When asked why he called the poll “silly” and why he asked respondents to “change some of those numbers around,” he said:
“All internet polls are silly. They’re kind of pointless. It was a question to a select audience. You know what answer you’ll get. They’re kind of pointless in that sense…it’s a pointless poll. What we like to do is have a little fun with it…we like to shake them up.” [...]
This is the other thing about this poll…it’s not just that it’s pointless, but it’s kind of a stupid poll. There is a correct answer. The earth is 4.5 billion years old.”
Myers claims that he and his fellow atheists opposed the poll because it “reinforces peoples’ views” and acts as a sounding board. But, when asked how his site — which is geared toward atheists and which has a very narrow scope through which it views a variety of issues — differs from this description, his response fell flat (and it was, frankly, quite condescending):
“People who come to [my] blog are better educated. The comments on The Blaze were appalling. It was incredible how bad the arguments were.”
Although he initially said they (he and his atheist friends) like to tinker with “conservative” polls, he then said that “any” internet poll that the group deems “silly” might be altered in this way. When I mentioned the fact that we saw thousands of responses from Norway (Myers left for Norway today to deliver an evolutionary address), he snickered.
And guess what? If you’re part of the 40 percent of Americans that believe in creationism rather than evolution, Myers thinks you’re an ignoramus. When I asked him his thoughts on national polls that show that his view is in the minority, he said:
“[Some people are] ignorant. Most of the people in this country don’t go out and argue for these ideas. They listen to what their preacher tells them. They accept it as dogma…It is stupid for people to believe in ideas that are counter to the facts.”
While Myers believes that those who fully embrace evolution are “kind of stupid,” he isn’t as disenchanted by those who believe that God played a role in humanity’s creation:
“There are a lot of intelligent people who say that God twiddled his fingers in one species and made them special. There’s no evidence for that, but if you want to believe that, then fine.”
In the end, Myers and I didn’t see eye to eye. I explained my dislike, regardless of opinion on any matter, for purposefully destroying a poll that was intended to explore our readers’ diverse views, while he seemed more focused upon proving that evolution is a viable truth. I explained my belief that, in a democracy, everyone should be free to hold his or her own beliefs, regardless of whether they embrace creationism, evolution or any other form of human formation. His response?
“I would think that in a democracy what you’d been doing would be encourage people to get educated.”
Sometimes, one simply cannot win.
We agreed, then, to disagree and moved on. In the end, the actions taken on atheists’ behalf did little to ignite a conversation. They were simply “silly” (not to steal a word from Myers’ own blog post). But, we wanted to bring you the full story and all of the facts on the matter. Below, watch Myers deliver a speech at the 2010 Global Atheist Convention:
So, what ended up happening with the poll, you ask? As mentioned, we made the decision to close the results to the public until we had the chance to investigate them further. This was not done to hide anything, as Myers’ adherents have claimed. Rather, we wanted to conduct a poll that showcased the views of The Blaze audience. Now that the poll has closed, allow me to showcase the end results:
The atheists involved were able to take the 75.16 percent God-inspired proportion and transform the poll to show 85.05 percent of respondents agreeing with their take — that God had no involvement in the formation of mankind. Considering national polls (though, again, we weren’t attempting to create a nationally-representative poll in the first place), this is, of course, totally unrealistic on every level. In the original piece, we wrote:
More recent (2010) Gallup data shows 40 percent of the nation embracing the notion that God created man in his current form, with only 16 percent claiming that God played no part in the process of creation. While the scientific and Christian communities continue to grapple with internal disagreement, it seems the creationists are thus far winning the PR war.
In the end, more than 46,000 votes were cast in The Blaze poll (though there were many repeat voters, obviously, in this first category). And, here’s a pie chart that more visually shows the breakdown:
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Comments (665)
ckokkola
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:19amThe atheists must really fear the truth. They know that evolution is bogus and they fear that the truth might come out. Other wise why do this?
Report Post »insaneserenity
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:36amall liars, communists and leftists fear reality, because they know it will break their grasp on power. Just look at algore going nuts. He knows his billions of money he put into global warming technology will be worthless soon and he is mad.
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:43amRemember the old “Misery Loves Company” phrase………guess these people want all of us to be as fearful, hopeless, and miserable as they are!! That also could explain socialists too! Equal misery for all…………
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:43amAtheists can’t be fair about anything they do, so they resort to illegal measures or measures that are not right. Anyone who believes in the original Genesis story doesn’t really care if the poll was hijacked. We already voted and I doubt that if we believe firmly in Genesis, the atheists cannot persuade us otherwise. Just another cheap trick that proves nothing for them. Hey atheist: if you are right and I am wrong, then I have lost nothing. If I am right and you are wrong, then you will lost everything.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:55amDoes it really matter in the whole scheme of things what they think? Even if they don’t believe that God created Adam and Eve, does it make it any less so? Romans 14:11 Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess to God
Report Post »Ryan Beaulieu
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:56amThis group sounds just like all other leftist groups who encourage and inspire debate and discussion. To hear both sides of the argument and have peaceful debate.Oh wait, no leftist group works like that. They all preach about coming together, spawning debate, ending rhetoric, and eliminating hate speech yet all these groups do is force their opinions and ideals down your throat, could careless about your thoughts and position on any given subject, they HATE debate, all they do is push rhetoric and spew hate speech. Its both amusing and frustrating.
I just don’t understand why you would have to sabotage a poll or even care about a poll. Everything in life no two people see or feel the same way about. That’s what makes this world girl. My grandmother always told me that it takes all kinds to make this world. Its time to accept other peoples opinions and thoughts regardless of how outlandish or ludicrous you feel their opinion is. To me it just sounds like way too much effort to sabotage a poll that at the end of the day, doesn’t change the 75% of people who originally voted for believing in God creating the universe. So what now you can tote around to all your friends that you helped sabotage a poll? Its not like the poll was scientifically accurate to portray that Blazers are atheists.
Sounds to me like a bunch of wasted effort and people with too much time on their hands.
Report Post »nooffensebut
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:57amBecause creationism is stupid and embarrassing to the right.
Report Post »Carl1 Supports Israel
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:01amThey can’t handle the truth!!! But when they are near death? They will be praying for Gods forgiveness.
Report Post »DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:05amThis is really the “blaze”’s fault for allowing multiple votes. I am really not sure who their web developers are but they need fired. Commenting is bad, polls aren’t even remotely secured(meaning only for multiple votes) and there is this lovely mobile version of the site. Commenting on that is pathetic and I am FORCED to the mobile version with no link to the desktop version. And I love the occasional ads that start playing video, especially the non-muted ones, on page load.
Report Post »NES
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:17amThere‘s one option that’s missing, and that is God created man according to the Genesis story but did so using an evolutionary process. Under this concept, it’s not that Genesis is wrong but that the common exegesis has been incorrect and that the word “day” as a 24-hour period is a misconception and that “period” or “era” is a better interpretation. The New Testament says that a day to God is a thousand years to man, and even that isn’t necessarily literal but under Hebrew numerological conception can simply mean “a very long time.” God wasn’t giving Moses a science lesson when he relayed the creation, so it was kept simple and at an intellectual level meant for consumption by the Children of Israel. The important spiritual point is “Who,“ not the details of ”how.” Furthermore, the requirement that we live by faith is reinforced since God did such a great job of covering His tracks when stretching the creation out over eons of time. This all being said, I can say as a scientist that the minutia and details of evolution dating millions and billions of years old reported by evolutionary biologists is complete nonsense. In that regard, even they must take their findings on faith.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:22amHagee believes the Jews will burn in a lake of brimstone:
“The Jews have no greater friend, the audience is told, than John Hagee, even though the book he wrote, prominently advertised on the church’s parking lot marquee, predicts they will perish in a lake of brimstone at Armageddon.
The line for the Night to Honor Israel started forming outside the church even before the doors were scheduled to open. The atmosphere is festive, and people are filled with anticipation. But the party they are looking forward to is not taking place inside the church, where the Cornerstone Choir sings “Hava Nagila Texas Style!” and where, in a video montage of Jerusalem, the Dome of the Rock magically disappears. Rather, the anticipation is for the Second Coming, when, Hagee has said, Jesus will sit “right there on that Temple Mount” and rule the world.
In its short history, Hagee’s grassroots movement, Christians United for Israel (CUFI), has become the most visible organization of American Christian Zionists. Hagee launched the organization in February 2006, just a month after the release of his book Jerusalem Countdown, which became a best seller. In the book Hagee asserts that an American and Israeli war on Iran is not only biblically prophesied but necessary to bring about Armageddon and the Second Coming, a theme that drew four hundred pastors and Christian leaders to San Antonio to the inaugural meeting of his Christian Zionist organization.”
Beck and Hagee are e
Report Post »obamanation
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:26amhahahahahahaha!!!
I love that Glenn Beck gets them so mad!
What a bunch of obsessed weirdos!!
Report Post »MMR
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:27amNot all Atheist are the same, look at S.E. Cupp. Some of us are conservatives and don’t fall into the category of the crazies.
Report Post »joel228
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:27amThere is another option that is missing and pratically never even considered. That God, the universe and us are all eternal. That “in the beginning” refers to the creation of this earth and references to “the heavens” refers to our view of it. That “created” means formed out of existing material not brought into existance out of nothing.
The only thing that makes sense is that the universe and everything in it are eternal in duration and infinite in quantity. That means no universal big bang and no evolution. No beginning and no end. Just eternal creation and progression.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:29amThe Bible is man made and the proof is that “GOD” never taught these primitive peoples to treat women as equals. Throughout the Bible, women are not equally involved in positions of power, only men, and Jesus never addresses this injustice. Nor does “GOD”. There are commandments and rules given to beat the band, but nothing is said about womens’ right to participate equally in society, as they do in today’s world, very successfully. This is a major flaw and proof that a higher power was not involved in any of the writings of the Bible. An all-knowing all powerful divine being would have corrected this from the start. It was not done, because there is no GOD.
Report Post »Tony
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:37amThose who adhere to the Atheist religion have exactly the same approach to those who challenge their beliefs as does the Islamists have for those who challenge Islam and it prophet… to atttack and destroy. Christianity is strongest when it promotes critical analysis of every aspect of its belief. Atheisism is strongest when all no critical analysis of its tenets are outlawed as has been done in our public schools regarding Evolution.
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:41amAh! I was wondering what the trolls did. It’s sort of a leftist flash mob for polls. How very childish.
Report Post »I see a big difference between Conservatives and Liberals. Not many Conservatives would troll or go out of their ways to ruin every minor thing Liberals do, but Liberals obsess over destroying everything they can. So much for Liberals being more intelligent and civil. They prove themselves hypocrites every day.
Jack of Hearts
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:43amWhy do this? To wind up the blazers and watch them twitch – didn’t vote myself, but it worked didn’t it? Love this site, always good for a laugh – rather like the old bedlam asylum where the public could go in and laugh at the inmates.
swsb6x
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:44amThe Majority of Atheists are hypocrites. If atheism is true then why do they care about anything because life is meaningless. But they borrow from the truth that we were created in God’s image and therefore we are caring beings. If most atheists were true to what they believed they would eat and drink for tomorrow they die. Hypocrites!!!!!!
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:52amTo MMR – you will never know how happy I am to hear that there are atheists out there apparently like you who are not foaming at the mouth. Lately all I have been hearing from atheists is that anyone who believes in any kind of theology is stupid, uneducated and worthless. Everything out of their mouths lately has been negative and demeaning. So thanks for your comment. I appreciate you.
To No Offense – I’m sorry you feel that people who believe in creationism are embarrassing to conservatives. Personally, I think that those who believe in evolution have been duped, but I don’t need to name call and demean to get my point across.
Report Post »LisaC49
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:53amThey NEED to fear the Truth, because the Truth is God, himself. We need to pray for them, because they are so far gone in their warped thinking, that they don’t know that if you do not believe in God, you also cannot distinguish between good and evil.
Report Post »Favored93
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:57amThis guy proves my earlier point that there are NO atheists!!! They prove every time they open their mouths that they are just angry at God. Maybe they were hurt by a christian or abused something. the biggest insult they can come up with to some how hurt God is to say “he is not there”.
Report Post »It is obvious to me that he is a hurt little child stomping his feet.
“The fool has said in his heart there is no God…”
beckisnuts
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:19pmFlavored93, that is wrong. You are wrong. Think it through more carefully. Is the person who knows Santa Claus is not real “ANGRY” at Santa? No. The same thing applies to those who think that all religion is man made and there really is no such thing as a “GOD.” God is a concept, not a reality.
Report Post »Musicman09
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:19pmDid you hear about the athiest that sued the govt. because of all the religious holidays. When in the courtroom, and before the judge, the athiest presented that christians have Christmas and Easter, the jews have Hannakuh, etc. and so on. The atheist said, it’s not fair, as we athiest do not have a national holiday.”
Report Post »With that the judge replied, “Oh, but you do.“ The atheist was shocked by this statement and said ”well, we are not aware of any such holiday.” The judge blasted back, “your holiday is April 1st, as the bible says in Psalm 14:1 ‘Only fools say in their heart there is no God’, thus April Fools day is your national holiday.
wordweaver
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:24pmNefarious b@stards! Blaze, can you generate your surveys so that you can register only one vote from each web address?
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:24pmMusicman, that is just lame. The Holy Ghost is hogwash. Religion is hogwash. Jesus is hogwash. The idea of a great creator living in the sky is hogwash. Heaven is hogwash. Hell is hogwash. None of it is REAL. R E A L. Face it.
Report Post »ConservDadASD
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:25pmActually Beckisnuts, God did have something to say re. women and their place in human society… but you probably won’t like it. He said because Eve was deceived first and went on to spread the deception to her husband, she and all the women after her would be subjected to her husband. He would “rule” over her and she would have intense pain in childbirth. Equality was not in God’s mind at the time.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:28pmOne has to wonder how many times the cheaters vote, too. The only way they can push their agenda is to lie, misdirect, and cheat. Sounds like the Green movement too. Come to think of it, it describes the whole left.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:31pmMainly because they probably think that a blind belief in a religion which insists that their unfounded belief is the truth in spite of evidence to the contrary is really kinda silly!
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:37pmLOL! Exactly Conservdad. And guess who wrote that nonsense? Men. That simplistic myth is a joke and no one in the modern world believes it. Do you have a daughter, a sister, a mother or a grand daughter? Do you believe they are second class citizens because of that ridiculous story? If you do, you are a fool. Thanks for pointing out what utter nonsense and stupidity religious beliefs can be.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:50pmbeckisnuts…for someone that thinks God is not real, you sure do agrue against him quite feverishly…I don’t believe unicorns are real, so I go around and tell people they are just horses in disguise…you my friend are a loser, and what satisfaction does it give you to put down people’s beliefs…in my eyes…you are a classic libral, you have your beliefs and screw anybody else’s.
Report Post »uem
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:50pmDuring the crusades, the Christian faith had a need to drive everyone alive into its faith. It was not allowable for anyone to be different. The Muslim (radicals) faith of today share that same need. Evidently, the atheist faith also needs everyone to share their belief.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 1:21pmGodlovinmom, your rant means nothing to me. It has no truth to it and absolutely no merit. It is just the typical angry nonsense people on the wrong side of things usually resort to because they have no facts or truth.
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 1:28pmI, an atheist, fear no such thing. Evolution exists, that’s not a theory, that’s a fact. The theory of evolution attempts of postulate how it works, what drives evolution, not whether it exists or not. You seem to fear this fact because it threatens your mythology. Nice try to make it seem the other way around.
Report Post »AtheisticTea
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 1:29pmThings like this are sad.
First, polls are garbage. We are reminded of this everytime CNN, MSNBC, or most other leftist news media post one that tells us how much of the country is still in love with OBama. The fact that the blaze would then use one, targeted to a faith based audience is depressing. Of course polls like these are going to skew the results. Unless you can poll every individual in the country using simple wording, then all your poll shows is a sampling of your viewership, not society as a whole.
As for poll hijinks, look at how many polls say Ron Paul is going to win the white house during this and the last election. That’s part of the reason they are so faulty.
Next, Atheists like that professor irritate the heck out of me. It is men like that who through their non-belief feel they can then elavate themselves to god status that give the rest of us sane Atheists a bad name. To me there are 2 forms of Atheist. 1) Those who deny God and elevate themselves and 2) those who deny God yet still see just how small we are in the Universe. Don’t condemn us all because of the actions of fools like this who like to believe they are more than they really are.
If any of you sat in a room with me, I can be 100% certain that none of you would know I was Atheist in a political conversation. Why? Because I am a Conservative Republican. But being a Conservative doesn’t mean I have to be religious.
Some of oyu however need to get over your narrow views of who
Report Post »Bloody Sam
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 1:32pmLooks like Ol’ Glenn got hisself “Freeped” by a bunch of atheists.
Report Post »Scalzo
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 1:35pmIronically, all we’re looking for is truth. Not myth and fear.
Report Post »“What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.”
The10thAmendment
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 1:38pmI love atheists actually. They’re cute swinging by their tails in the tree in my back yard. Feeding time is really fun. Heck, someday I even hope to have one housebroken. Unfortunately they‘re not the sharpest knives in the drawer so I’ll probably not see a housebroke atheist in my lifetime. Oh well, it’ll give my children and their children something to look forward to.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 1:38pmBeckisnuts…you just proved my point!
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 1:39pmnooffensebut
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:57am
Because creationism is stupid and embarrassing to the right.
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^^^ stupid defined! Congrats on being the monkey of the day.
The10thAmendment
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 1:44pmjoel228
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:27am
There is another option that is missing and pratically never even considered. That God, the universe and us are all eternal. That “in the beginning” refers to the creation of this earth and references to “the heavens” refers to our view of it. That “created” means formed out of existing material not brought into existance out of nothing.
The only thing that makes sense is that the universe and everything in it are eternal in duration and infinite in quantity. That means no universal big bang and no evolution. No beginning and no end. Just eternal creation and progression.
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Thwack!
And God created man FROM THE DUST OF THE GROUND! In other words, he used stuff He had already created and formed it into something else. The difference Creation and Chuckie the Purple Dinosaur followers.
And God breathed life into his Creation and man became a living soul. He specifically chose man as being a distinct creation.
Report Post »K Chad Roberts
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 1:46pmI’m one of those few who follow Beck, but am very non-religious. Not necessarily atheist… more of a mix of agnostic-atheist. Anyways, I didn’t find this poll to be “pointless”. I found it interesting to see how many “followers” of Beck think the way I do. Many of you may initially question the very idea of me being a “real” supporter of Beck and what he stands for… but I assure you I am. I love learning about religion, and regardless of whether one believes in God or “A God” has no bearing on the fact that the idea of “God” is tremendously important.
This group of atheists should be ashamed. I was genuinely curious about how the poll would end up, but they decided to taint the poll results with their own self-centered sense of pride and purpose. The lack of respect in our opposition never stops surprising me.
Wish I could be in Israel with Beck, but I lack the financing as a College student. Still, best of luck to you all, and have a nice day!
Report Post »Scalzo
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 1:48pm@ The10thAmendment
Report Post »Care to do some research on the education level of the average atheist compared to an evangelical? Or who’s actually more knowledgable about religion? Granted it’s fancy, liberal, commie, book learnin’…
Man, I don’t even like to get nasty. We tend to be much more moral and accepting of our fellow man than the deeply devout. Though I’m sure you have some anecdotal stories that mean nothing.
Glenn is Right
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 1:56pmBelieve in God, whatever. I don’t give a ****.
Report Post »beckwasfox
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 2:00pm@Beckisnuts Jesus loves you.
Report Post »JustSomebody
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 2:04pmI have listened to Beck for years. I think he is a patriot. I think most of what he says about the left (Van Jones, Obama, etc.) are probably their true feelings and intent.
I have watched Beck’s two shows (CNN & Fox). I found him harder to take on the shows. I have watched him move more and more toward a religious perspective over the last couple of years.
I have always voted Republican, and intend to do so in the future.
However,… I am not a christian anymore. I lost my faith years ago. No one did anything to me, and I don’t have bad stuff to say about church or christianity.
Simply, I just found my belief in the bible to wane as I became older. I grew up in the church. My parents went, so I went. I believed in the things that my parents believed, and I did so because I respected them.
However, I always felt that I couldn’t work out in my mind the stories in the bible. They really weren’t plausible. The more I thought about it, the more I couldn‘t help but admit I wasn’t believing. I was saved “born again” baptised at one time.
I just read a book about Scientology and I swear that all religions have their implausible stories, but the basis of religion is faith. Faith conquers doubt. However, when I read about Scientology, I cannot believe people have faith in the non-sense. For some, christianity has the same type of non-sense.
For me, I just don’t believe. I’m not going to bash christianity.
Report Post »obamanation
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 3:02pmI am Agnostic. So I don’t care either way :D
(I answered “I’m unsure”)
But I will say this… All science is theory (even when it’s called fact), and it can’t prove or disprove the existence of God. Science is just measurements of what scientists can measure.
Arguing about the existence of God is, and for will ever be, FUTILE.
Report Post »YouGoGlenn
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 3:16pmThere have always been insignificant little twerps waving their tiny fists at God…many far more credible than PZ Myers…but God is not the least bit threatened or impressed.
Report Post »Greenwood
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 3:30pm@BECKISNUTS………is hogwash
Report Post »scarebear83
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 3:41pm@NES The Day Age theory is a way to “soften” the way God created all you see. If God created the heavens and the earth in the first place He then is an all powerful God and would be easily able to create it in 6 literal 24 hour days. Furthermore why would He lie to Moses and tell him it was just literal days so that way he could understand it? Henry Morris states it as such: Whenever the writer really intended to convey the idea of a very long duration of time, he normally used some such word as olam (meaning “age” or “long time”) or else attached to yom an adjective such as rab (meaning “long”), so that the two words together yom rab, then meant “long time.” But yom by itself can apparently never be proved, in one single case, to require the meaning of a long period of time, and certainly no usage which would suggest a geologic age (1974, p. 223 http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=9&article=391 ) Also quoted from the same website: “Second, Genesis 1:14 is instructive on this matter: “And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and for years.” If the “days” are “ages,” then what are the years? If a day is an age, then what is a night? In other words, the whole passage becomes ridiculous when one attempts to “reinterpret” the word “day.”
Report Post »Drives Like Jehu
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 3:58pmGod is imaginary and a myth only to the lost. God’s Will will be done.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 4:01pmMay I just point out that there isn’t a conflict between the timeline of creation in Genesis, and the current theoretical scientific timeline for the formation of the universe. The Bible does not attempt to explain the details of how the universe functions, so why should we expect it to read like a manual on modern physics, biology, and chemistry? It is presented in such a way that anyone who can read or listen can understand its message.
Report Post »Zer0
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 4:12pmBlazers,
What this fiasco should illustrate to all of the readers here are two things:
A.) The level of maturity and bigotry that exists within the atheists’ ranks.
B.) The futility and ridiculousness of TheBlaze’s reader polls.
These reader polls are not scientific for many reasons, one of which they are easily “hijacked”. I’ve seen Conservatives do the same to other news websites. The reason that many of us are here is to escape the “echo chamber” of the mainstream media. It does not help us to reproduce our own echo chamber. Why does the TheBlaze conduct these reader polls? To reaffirm our own beliefs? To convince ourselves that the vast majority of the people believe, lockstep, just as we do? Just some things to ponder.
Report Post »Hollywood
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 4:27pmWhen I see/hear guys like Myers, I sometimes have been given pause to think, there might be some credence, to the claims of evolution,and he didn’t make the next step.
Report Post »billz1rtc
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 4:43pmI can’t remember the last time a Religion tried so hard to convince Me to believe in what They believe in, It‘s as if Atheism has evolved into some sort of Religion of it’s own, :) More like a Cult. Maybe if We‘re lucky they’ll all drink the Grape kool-aid.
Report Post »shootinugli
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 4:55pmThey absolutely have to believe that evolution is true because their world view is tightly wound up in it. That’s why liberals (often atheists) push evolution so much because in their minds liberalism and socialism are the evolution of our culture and government. That, in there minds, is why it’s superior and the rest of us are idiots or nuts and not even worthy of a dialog. If evolution is false, then liberalism and socialism can’t be an evolutionary progression on the road to collective salvation.
Lofty words and sentiments for a view and system that demotivates, devalues and hurts people. They get to decide who has value in the new order of things, their form of natural selection since they are intellectually superior and the rest of us are sub-human. (Whoops! My knuckles are dragging again.)
Report Post »yazzledazzle
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 5:10pmYou’re right, CKOKKOLA! They also fear that the facts they purposefully/ignorantly hide will get out into the mainstream. Then there cover is blown and lies exposed!
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 5:17pmScalzo
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 1:48pm
@ The10thAmendment
Care to do some research on the education level of the average atheist compared to an evangelical? Or who’s actually more knowledgable about religion? Granted it’s fancy, liberal, commie, book learnin’…
Man, I don’t even like to get nasty. We tend to be much more moral and accepting of our fellow man than the deeply devout. Though I’m sure you have some anecdotal stories that mean nothing.
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Without religion there is no such thing as morality. What feces guided education system have you been associated with? The Gould and Darwin school of abstract conjecture, hilarious theory, surrounding purple dinosaurs (which has an apt connotation later for your idea of morality), and lucy. It perhaps is true that your relatives are inbred half breeds between fallen angels and the daughters of men that they raped. Isn’t ad hominem fun?
The purple dinosaur comment is a direct rebuttal to your wrong idea of what constitutes morality. Accepting immorality does not constitute being moral, it constitutes the 2-step immorality, which is meta-ethics. That is completely contrary to the basis of morality. If you are a representative of the “educated” atheist, I feel extremely bad for attacking the handicapped.
Report Post »Kitzie1963
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 5:26pmThey try to take our crosses down, don’t want prayers at school graduations, so I ask you: why are they on Glenn Beck’s website? If they don’t like it, don’t look. That’s simple!
Report Post »Servant Of YHVH
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 5:50pm@ckokkola
Report Post »Of course they are afraid and it truly is unexplainable. If they so deeply believed that there was no God and that what this idiot Myers is saying then they would have no trouble debating the beliefs. The only way that I can see to cause them to be that afraid is because they know that what they are spouting is a lie and that there is no way to support their theory. Therefore, they resort to what they do best is to try and vilify, degrade and diminish what the subject is. We all know what that is, it is also the typical liberal wacko method of debating anything. Neither group can support their obviously incorrect theories so they degrade and accuse the other side of wrongdoing and everything else in the book that they can come up with just to avoid the debate.
Smoovious
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 5:53pmalright, look… personally I don’t believe in religion as a concept itself… but to most people, that makes me athiest… to me, it doesn’t, because athiesm is a religion in itself…
but to me, creationism and evolution aren’t mutually exclusive…
They just deal with different questions… creationism asks “why”, while evolutionism asks “how”.
We’re not all going to believe the same way on either front, either. Who is right and who is wrong? None of us will ever know for generations come, and I’m perfectly comfortable with that fact.
Having intelligent debate about it tho, is much preferable, to the state of the creationism/evolutionism war that just keeps going on and on and on and on and on in a never-ending slugging match that serves no purpose and brings nothing to the conversation.
I don’t believe that those who believe in creationism are stupid. I do believe that those who can’t engage and debate their views when it comes to creationism in an intelligent manner, instead resorting to parroting back dogma and scripture as their entire argument without bringing their own thoughts and argument into it? Those, are stupid. Especially those who claim to be righteous, yet do not live their lives according to the beliefs they espouse.
I have much more respect for people who live their lives, honestly, and live up to the commitments they subscribe to.
Glenn, is one of the few, that live and engage on that level, and while I often disagree, I re
Report Post »Smoovious
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…and while I often disagree, I respect him greatly for it.
– Smoov
Report Post »MHP
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 7:23pmbeckisnuts
We can prove there are no athiests
There are no athiests in foxholes. they all pray to God when they are about to die in war.
Report Post »stefani
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 7:27pmi agree and more. i was mad at God for a while and entertained athiesm. i thought about where to start my search for purpose of life, the basic structure of everything is the atom. i started there…electromagnetic charge of an atom and the resulting repulsion is literally what keeps us from becoming one with the universe, and keeps us physically intact. (think about this on an atomic level a hug is as intimate as sex.) in psalms it says that the universe sings praise to God, vibrations create sound, the electrons spin around the nucleus of the atom, we know that everything in existance has atomic structure, this is just one example of how athiests are so narrow minded that a summer breeze can make their head whistle. and they try to paint it as im the one with the IQ three digits above a houseplant. they arent only scared, they are narrowminded as well.
Report Post »MHP
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 7:29pmSimpleTruths and beckisnuts
So y’all believe you came from an ape or a monkey.
Well I sure as hell did not.
Report Post »I look like God
richard the lion-hearted
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 8:22pmYes even the atheists play their small role as the devil rages in the hearts of mankind, such an idiotic, hypocritical stance…God cannot be proved for an assurity so we‘ll totally believe that He doesn’t exist disregarding our previous ‘measure’ of so-called reasoning to not believe in the first place.
Report Post »4blackhorses
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 8:41pmAnd how does this phatheaded Proffessor explain the fact that 70% – 80% of Americans are Christian? Doesn’t exactly jive with the polls numbers after they loaded in their favor. But it is not for us to judge. They will be judged by God.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 9:08pmI really do laugh out loud when I hear a so called atheist run their wannabe monkey jowls. They think they are smart, when in reality they are halfwit. They reject out of hand the concept of God, and the importance of religion because it allows them to fashion a false sense of morality. That morality is no morality because absence of religion removes morality from the table of options. The can claim to be ethical to the degree that it doesn’t become an imposition on others, ie, not absolute. Without absolution there can be no morality except in a contrived facilitation of definition absent religion, which is the epitome of absolutes.
Thus, if an atheist claims to be open minded toward all, they condemn themselves as liars for the simple reason they reject God and the opinions of His followers. This doesn’t make them unbelievers in even the metethical position they peddle to others.
But what makes them halfwit? Because they only know half the story. They don’t know Gods side, and reject His people. They aren’t atheist at, they are anti-God, and live a life of no absolutes, and have no moral compass to guide them. Perversion, homosexuality and hate is their entire platform. Truth becomes a shifting sand and becomes discretionary. This is profoundly evident out of the School of Biology at Harvard University where Gould violated Sciences pursuit of truth, by changing empirical evidence to pacification theology.
Report Post »Bad_Ashe
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:51pm@MMR – It’s because within the 4% of self-proclaimed atheists that make up the population of the United States, many of you (like the aforementioned Ms. Cupp) simply don’t believe, which is of course your prerogative, though after much study, I disagree with you. Let’s refer to you as a “lower-case atheist”.
On the other hand, most self-identified atheists are “capital-A Atheists” and tend to be your socially-backwards evangelical types who simply can‘t stand that people don’t buy into their particular brand of faith. If you find an atheist trying to hijack a religious poll, abuse a saltine, or complain about a cross that’s been sitting on a piece of forgotten government-owned land five states away for over 100 years, you can bet it’s a “capital-A” type. It’s this latter description that typifies the cowardly Mr. Myers and his godless zealots.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:19pmBeck’snuts once again shows his ignorance of scripture. He builds a strawman and then proceeds to take it apart. Problem is his foundation is wobbly to begin with. No wonder it falls apart. I’d point out each of his falicies, but he never listens or goes to search the scriptures I’ve offered him before. He doesn’t want to research it. He is comfortable believing he knows it, and surely doesn‘t wish to find out he’s been terribly wrong every time he tries to use his understanding of scripture to make his point. His point is without a basis, except in his mind. Like our typical troll, he believes he is smarter, better looking, more educated and more worldly than anyone here. He’s a legend in his own mind. Get an education troll, then come back and have an adult conversation.
Report Post »T-U-L-I-P
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:26pmadherents of evolutionism have no evidence at all for vertical evolution they use the misnomer of micro-evolution just so they can “say” evolution is a scientific fact. it actually is nothing more than variation among species – a conservative process and not an innovative one. it is HORIZONTAL, limited, and bi-directional (goes back and forth) – the critter remains the same critter, not something new and of a higher order of complexity – which is stasis.
Report Post »besides, naturalistic evolutionists must admit that their lives are purposeless and meaningless; they are a freak cosmic accident and are a compilation of genetic mistakes (mutants) they have no inalienable rights; and they spend their lives of vanity trying to convince others that their lives are insignificant, too. what a ridiculous religion that is!
JJ Coolay
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:44pmWho would waste the time hijacking a poll? It’s meaningless and it proves nothing.
Report Post »Tim Law
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:50pmIt was a sad and petty thing to do. But it still don’t change the mind of any believer. I’ve read many of the post tonight and have one thing to say to all the Atheists. Christians tell others about GOD and Our Lord Jesus out of Love and the hope that a person can be saved. Atheists tell us we are fools to believe out of spite.
Report Post »Johnadda
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 12:28amAtheists must by definition be liberal left communists. It is far easier not to believe because to believe would mean you have study, read the bible take time to go to curch, take part in your community, give money(your money) to a church and to help others. I’m not a Church person or even a Religious person but l understand that something.Call it GOD or any other name you like something started the big bang something as been very busy since. People believe in their faith religion, great fantastic it makes them warm and happy, nothing wrong with that. ATHEISTS why can’t you just be warm and happy in your world. WHY; because deep deep down inside you hidden somewhere is the ?
Report Post »Scalzo
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 12:38am@The 10th Ammendment
The old ‘there is no morality without god trope’. So just to confirm, if it was proven tomorrow that god indeed does not exist, you’d finally be able to go on that rape, murder, and stealing spree you’ve always wanted to do?
I think not. At least, I hope not…
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 2:12amScalzo
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 12:38am
@The 10th Ammendment
The old ‘there is no morality without god trope’. So just to confirm, if it was proven tomorrow that god indeed does not exist, you’d finally be able to go on that rape, murder, and stealing spree you’ve always wanted to do?
I think not. At least, I hope not…
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That was about as weak a response as I’ve ever laughed at. I have no struggles with my moral compass. I don’t “think” God exists, I know He does. Every time I open my eyes, every time I look at a sunset, ALL of Gods creations should for joy. There is no morality without religion. By the very definition morality is confirmed by absolutes. I really don’t concern myself with God haters. That’s Gods business, but don’t try to brainwash young innocent minds with the political correctness of meta-ethical dogma known as atheism, and the perversion known as evolution. One of those kids might be mine, or a brothers in the family of God. Have your personal liberty guaranteed by the Founding Fathers, but stay out of my garden. Some can only live peacefully up to a point. Attack my children and that point is crossed. Now toddle back to your lie of atheism forum, you’re way out of your league.
doodad
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 2:18am@ Nooffensebut: Creationism is stupid, but communism/socialism isn’t?!? I don’t believe that the story of Genesis should be taken literally, nor any parts of the Bible that aren’t historical record. That said, I would believe in unicorns before I would believe in a punk-a** little boy named Barack, which I am sure you idolize and worship. The stupidity on the Left is on display every day; YOUR religion, environmentalism/socialism is disproven time and again, yet you dummies keep going to that well, don’t you? NO ONE has “proven” that God doesn’t exist, and you fools say you need “proof” or Christians, not Mooselimbs mind you, are the idiots. You ******* never take on Mooselimbs, just Christians…wonder why. Oh! It‘s because you’re all *******. BTW dickboy, I’m agnostic, but I love my conservative Christian “crazies.” Beats idolizing a fat-ass, doddering fool of a “professor” any day.
Report Post »LibertarianForLife
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 4:48amMaybe to show you morons that you have zero evidence for your position, and get you to critically think about your imaginary friend in the sky. Just a hint.
Report Post »muhamadhater
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 7:01am@ I support Isreal…So well said and a fantastic point about if your right and there not…what away 2 look at it..thanks and God Bless u and yours!!
Report Post »beggindog
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 7:21amFaith has fanaticism, atheism has arrogance. Both lay claim to ‘the truth’. How can any human know ‘the truth’?
Report Post »Scalzo
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 1:11pm@The10thAmendment
Weak response?!? That’s a complete and utter dodge of my question. I wish y ou’d seriously think about it.
Asserting again what you believe doesn’t make it fact. Out of my league? We’re certainly playing in different ones. Mine is based on thought and logic. Yours is supersitition and fear.
Report Post »Raymond Koepsell
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 2:05pmI fought back on the PZ Myers website
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/08/more_tax_breaks_for_the_ark_pa.php
Report Post »Raymond Koepsell
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 2:07pmI fought back at PZ Myers’ blog
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/08/more_tax_breaks_for_the_ark_pa.php
Report Post »rbinflorida
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 3:40pmAtheists do not want to feel as they are under the control of an almighty God, so they believe a lie and subject themselves to the control of undermighty Man. Atheists try to tell us that “God was created by man so man could control man”…..but I suggest – greater control is exerted over those who are “under” the spell of liars and deceivers who appear to offer a better option. It is easy to see how they manipulate people – “If we can convince the masses that evolution is an absolute fact, we can convince of them anything.” And I closing, just as there are many evolutionary hoaxes, the only way atheists can convince others that evolution is a fact and God didn’t create is by manipulating the truth just as they did in this poll.
Report Post »Thomas
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 4:39pmAtheist just really need us to know one thing and that is that they don’t believe. lol
Report Post »CrazyBlazers
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 10:06pmBecause we poll on what is undoubtedly known as truth, we fear the truth? I don’t get your logic.
Report Post »lawnman
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 1:30amAfraid of the truth. There is no god.
Report Post »LibertyRanger
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 9:06amWow. I am a big fan of The Blaze but this has made me lose some respect for the site. I am an atheist and I am absolutely content and happy with my stance on that issue. I am also a libertarian who disagrees with almost everything socialists/communists/marxists/the left in general believes, as well as plenty (but not nearly all) of what the mainstream right/GOP/RINOs believe. I cannot believe the level of anti-atheist sentiment here, you should be ashamed of yourselves for your intolerance. I have no problem whatsoever with anyone of any faith – each to their own – but it seems there is plenty of anti-atheism amongst The Blaze’s readers. I knew that there was a religious majority of sorts here, but I hadn’t realised how much they hated me even though I shared a lot of their views and stand by them regardless of faith or lack thereof.
I have no idea who PZ Myers is and I don’t care, he sounds like an unsavoury character to me. I also dislike Dawkins and other prominent atheists. I am no leftist. Basically, I believe EVERYONE should be free to believe what they want, without being judged as stupid or immoral for their beliefs. It seems a lot of you religious folk are rather intolerant of those who don’t agree with you, which is a very leftist stance to take.
I really REALLY hate to admit it but I agree with SOME of what the leftist trolls “beckisnuts”, “simpletruths” and others have said in this thread. For the first time EVER, their input is worthy o
Report Post »Nick697
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 11:45amOf course evolution is bogus. So are the preposterous notions that infectious diseases are caused by microbes, rather than “influences” and “bad humors”; that earthquakes are caused by shifting tectonic plates, rather than god getting angry and shaking the earth to remind us of our sins; that there are other planets out there, rather than just this one, and that Earth circles the Sun, when we all know that it’s the other way round. After all, the bible tells us all these things, and scientists are just godless sinners who will go to hell for suggesting such things.
Report Post »SamFox
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 12:47pmThe atheist religion is not unlike other religions. It takes faith to believe that matter came from no where. That a single cell could figure out what to do next in it‘s ’evolution’: How did the 1st cell know how to divide? How did it know how to grow say, legs, fins, eyes, a brain, a nervous system & so on all by it’s self with no out side influence? How did it come to exist in the 1st place? Where did the solar system come from?
It takes more faith to believe that every thing came from nothing & progressed into the eco-systems, variety of life, that it’s an accident the sun is just so far form the earth…all this with no outside influence.
Atheists have their own ‘bibles’, their own ‘church’ groups & ministers of their own, like the foolish man who runs the site that attacked the polls. They proselytize, as the man & his site demonstrate.
I would love to hear how this guy explains First Cause…that should be a gas!! :-) Which he is full of.
SamFox
Just did a brief search on 1st cause. All I could find was tap dancing around the issue.
Ball is your court Mr. Atheist. You tell us where the physical matter came from that is the universe we live in. If there is no God, then how did matter come to be? It was just there & some how formed into a balance of mathematical perfection? Where did the math come from? How did the 1st cell know what to do next? How did the planet the 1st cell was on come to be?
Riddle me those Mr. Atheist, I am very cur
Report Post »EtTuGlennBeck
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 2:01pmTony -
“Christianity is strongest when it promotes critical analysis of every aspect of its belief. Atheisism is strongest when all no critical analysis of its tenets are outlawed as has been done in our public schools regarding Evolution.”
This is absurd. You can call atheism a religion all you want, but it simply isn’t. Christianity isn’t about critical analysis; if you critically analyze or question the doctrine, you burn in hell – that’s what children are taught to keep them on your straight and narrow path of ignorance. Islam is the same.
When you refer to the religion of atheism, what you’re talking about is the scientific method, and I assure you, when ideas are absurd or lacking evidence, they eventually disappear from the scientific community. Evolution has been proven many, many times over, and it would be incredibly easy to disprove – and not by lying, like Kent Hovind and Ken Ham. Yet no one has done it. How odd!
Christians: stop using language like “I don’t have enough faith to be an atheist”, because it’s simply a lie. You’re willing to accept a two-thousand year old story based on hearsay, most of it written by a man who lived long after Jesus was dead (Saul of Tarsus), and the two historical accounts – Matthew and Luke – contradict each other many times.
Atheists just want to keep asking questions, rather than assuming they’ve all been answered. That doesn’t take any faith, and if you think it does, you should open a dict
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:19amI love the “I don’t often vote early and often” admitting he has participated in voter fraud besides his current poll fraud case.
Report Post »KPEdwards
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:36amvoter fraud? Come on, it’s an internet poll that had no features to prevent even just one person gaming the system. Let’s grow up and stop playing the sad little victim. Honestly, who here paid any attention to the results of said poll?
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:18amI agree Kevtheatheist – this was a very childish stunt, but we could expect nothing else. There will come a day when these very people weep and gnash their teeth at the sight of the Lord. As is often quoted on the Blaze by someone, if there is doubt, better to be on the side of faith, it could cost you your eternity if you were wrong, and if you were right, it only enabled you to live a caring, decent life.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:33amAnd no response of – we have high standards that are probably better than most Christians. I don’t believe that! What you did to the poll was morally wrong, but you thought it was funny. Given the right situation, if you are not answerable to a higher power, you would not do the right thing but would do whatever was advantageous to you.
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:45amGod has a sense of humor up until the time you blaspheme Him.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:59amGod’s Israel person – according to Christianity, it is blasphemy to put words in god’s mouth like you just did.
Report Post »MHP
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 7:35pmbeckisnutz
God ain’t worried of what you say, but you will go before Him on Judgement day
Report Post »So whatarya gonna tell Him
NotFooled
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:18amQuestion:Atheist ‘Hijack’ The Blaze’s Adam and Eve Creation Poll — But Why?
Answer: Because Satan is not a creative creature. It’s a rip off artist posing as a power for good.
And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve. 2 Corinthians 11:12-15
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:19amTwo problem with your post:
Report Post »1. I think it was very creative how they hijacked the poll.
2. Atheists don’t acknowledge Satan anymore than God. Both concepts are myths.
fatjack
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:45amSimpleTruths
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:19am
Two problem with your post:
Report Post »1. I think it was very creative how they hijacked the poll.
2. Atheists don’t acknowledge Satan anymore than God. Both concepts are myths.
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1. I bet you also think it creative to forge a check, identity theft, rob, liars oh yes they are very creative.
2. I bet you put your glasses on the inspect Christians, yet turn your back to atheists actions.
ConservativeAndProud
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:07pmSimpletruths:
1. There was no creativity involved. It was childish in the extreme, vengeful and ignorant. It’s amazing how people with limited intelligence cannot handle seeing people believe differently than they do. It scares them.
2. They don’t have to believe in Satan for him to exist. That’s the entire point. It doesn’t matter what anyone believes, it doesn’t change the fact of whether God and/or Satan exist. If they do, then atheist are willing pawns of Satan.
Many well-educated, intelligent humans believe in God. Why? Because they are able to stand back and look at the facts without preconceptions. When done so, the facts for intelligent design far outweigh those for accidental, spontaneous design due to the high complexity of results. We can all understand why someone like Hawkins doesn’t believe in God, his obvious anger at his human situation prevents him from acknowledging the one he blames. But why others?
It is beyond my understanding why scientist continue to stick to theories that have 1) been proven false, 2) continually change due to new evidence (meaning the theory remains false), or 3) are flawed. Yet, we see this with the theory of evolution, which has been debunked on numerous occasion. Unfortunately, the average citizen does not hear the truth because mainstream scientists refuse to publish the evidence, threaten those scientist that discovered the evidence, and continue to bury the evidence in an attempt to continue to push a flawed
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:30pmConservativeandprou, if GOD was real, he would have corrected primitive people’s attitudes toward women back when the story of the 10 Commandments was cooked up.
Report Post »Scalzo
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 1:26pmFunny too how the 10 Commandments make no mention of rape or incest. No mention of slavery being immoral. Additionally the original translation was ‘murder’ not ‘kill’, which is an important difference. Don‘t even get me started on the translation switch from ’Young Maiden‘ to ’Virgin’ for Mary….
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:54pmScalzo, that’s because God permits me to blow a hole through your brain if you come into my home with the intent to harm my family.
Report Post »I will kill you, not murder you.
Scalzo
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 12:40amWow JJCoolay! Jeez!. That’s certainly a calm and reasonable response.
Besides, aren’t you supposed to forgive me…?
Report Post »Raymond Koepsell
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 2:09pmI tried to fight back at PZ Myers’ blog
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/08/more_tax_breaks_for_the_ark_pa.php
Report Post »MemphisViking
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 5:29pmIt’s amusing and annoying at the same time when atheists try to use the Bible to back their position and only succeed in showing just how little they understand it.
Report Post »LibertyRanger
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 9:49amIt really pains me to be reading some of these comments. I have almost lost faith (excuse the term) in The Blaze. Those of you who wish for a better world, religious or not, please be careful. You will lose the support of folk like myself when you make them feel unwelcome due to their atheism.
Folk like “10thamendment” are no better than those they decry. He claims we atheists have no knowledge of religion, he claims there is no morality with god, he calls us “god-haters” (why would we hate things we do not believe exist?), he calls us “halfwits” and yet he writes with the condescension, ignorance and arrogance matched only by people like Obama, Reid and Pelosi. He clearly knows as little about us as he does the god he thinks he knows. I care not to point out the myriad of inconsistencies and hypocrisies in his dogmatically indoctrinated perception of morality.
I really do hope for a future of prosperity and freedom, tolerance and liberty, and I ask all of you decent religious folk to pray for the same. Fellow atheists, do not indulge ideologues like 10thamendment and do not bash those decent folk who disagree with your views.
Goodbye and best of wishes to all Blaze readers, this place is no longer for me – I cannot enjoy this environment of intolerance, from both sides.
For millions of years since the outset of time
Report Post »Every single one of your ancestors survived
Every single person on your Mom and Dad’s side
Successfully looked after and passed on
LibertyRanger
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 9:57am…passed on to you life.
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Report Post »Carol Ingian
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:18amIn the end, Myers is the loser. Atheists must have a lot of anxiety about their beliefs (or lack of beliefs) to spend so much time ruining a poll.
Report Post »JGraham III
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:07amConsider this scenario: Mr Smarty-pants atheist standing before the Throne telling the Creator of the Heavens and Earth: “I don’t believe in you”. Wonder what the Lord will say…
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:05pmJGraham, Your delusions are not our burdens.
Jesus will not return in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022.
At the end of each, you will remember this and know I was right.
Report Post »TheRogueX
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:19pmJGRAHAM III – If that happens, I for one will smile and bow to God and say ‘Finally, I’m glad you showed yourself. How hard was that? All you needed to do was prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you exist. It’s nice to finally meet you, God.”
And, since God is ALL-LOVING and ALL-FORGIVING, He will let me in to Heaven, because no ALL-FORGIVING, ALL-GOOD, and ALL-LOVING being could ever have created Hell, nor could He consign any of His creations to eternal torment for ANY reason.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:33pmTheroguex is exactly correct. The entire religious narrative is childish and simple-minded drivel. All this nonsense about being born flawed and begging for forgiveness one’s entire lives under threat of eternal physical torture is hogwash. I saw through this nonsense when I was still a child. It’s a fraud created to control people.
Report Post »KnightofTruth
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 2:59pmTo Beckisnuts and Therogeux, I have one statement, and one statement only.
Would it be better to live your life as if there was a God, and find out there was not, than to live your life as if there was no God, and find out there was?
Report Post »scarebear83
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 5:20pm@TheRogueX -If that happens, I for one will smile and bow to God and say ‘Finally, I’m glad you showed yourself. How hard was that? All you needed to do was prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you exist. It’s nice to finally meet you, God.”
Unfortunately by then it will be too late. 2 Cor.6:2 …Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation. There is an abundance of evidence, you just need to look :)
And, since God is ALL-LOVING and ALL-FORGIVING, He will let me in to Heaven, because no ALL-FORGIVING, ALL-GOOD, and ALL-LOVING being could ever have created Hell, nor could He consign any of His creations to eternal torment for ANY reason.
So let me ask you, if you go over the speed limit and get written a ticket and have to pay a fine etc. is it the cop’s fault or yours for speeding? It’s yours. It’s the same with sin. We are guilty of sin and we must answer for our own faults. God being all loving and good has given us a way to escape our punishment but we must do as He asks and not our own way. God does not want anyone to be in eternal punishment: 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
Report Post »Reagan4President
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 1:04pm@beckisnuts……. Your hopless you put in so much time to comment on a losing arguement is that all you do all day your a loser and a baby
Report Post »spreadcommonsensenot pc
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:18amO well, God calls them “fools”………………
Report Post »LOLReally
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:10pmNice when did he tell you that?
Report Post »Locked
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:17amTo be fair to Norway, the last “crazy conservative Christian” that hit their news killed dozens of people. I can see how some folks would take it seriously.
Blah blah, he wasn’t Christian, blah blah… but he called himself as such and described the goals of his slaughter as a resurrection of Christendom. No True Scotsman arguments aside, he thought he was one, and that’s what many in an increasingly secular nation like Norway would see.
Report Post »NotFooled
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:27amYour right, he was no Christian. “He was a European Freemason.” That says it all.
Report Post »ckokkola
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:17amOnly those afraid of the truth would do that. We have them running, and they fear the truth.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:25amEitehr that or Beck is a whinning baby and has a sissy fit when ever someone dare to have an opinion not in line with his.
Report Post »Conservative Queen
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:16amEncinom – It’s pretty obvious that Dr. Myers is the one having the sissy fit. But hey, if you want to believe that the world just poof, exploded out of nothing and that life just poof, magically began (both scientific impossibilities) and over billions of years all the different creatures evolved themselves to what they are today, you have that freedom to do so. But if you do, then you have to believe that from one organism that somehow had to survive millions of years it “decided” to start multipling and “becoming” other things. But during that time, how it survived until it decided to start “changing” to survive? Also, it went from splitting to reproduce to becoming creatures that were able to reproduce by being male & female and producing sperm/eggs that wow, poof, when they came together, they produced another one of them! So, not only did creatures have to evolve, a male and female had to evolve simultaneously, identically while having their sperm/eggs evolve with them. Can science reproduce that? Which brings up another question. We supposedly started out as fishlike creatures that laid eggs. Somehow mammals “evolved” to be able to carry their babies. Since evolution supposedly takes millions of years for the changes to accure, how in the world did that happen? Was the baby 1/2 in 1/2 out for 2 million years? Last point, there should be 1000′s of “missing links” due to all the evolving creatures. Where are they? But again, you are free to belie
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:37am@ encinom
Incorrect spelling and bad grammar (which you repeatedly correct in others) aside, your comment is wrong.
The article clearly states that the poll was purposefully sabotaged by Dr. PZ Myers (prominent atheist and professor of biology at The University of Minnesota–Morris) and his group of followers. The man admitted the group was behind the “hi-jack”. And they did it because in their opinion, creationists are “stupid” and Glenn Beck is “silly”. The Blaze did not shut down the poll because Glenn threw a “sissy fit”.
Apparently, the atheists are the ones throwing a “sissy fit” – resorting to cheating & childish behavior.
Report Post »Centralsville
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:16amIt is so much more intelligent to think that everything around us popped into existence from nothing. These “scientist” are the same fools that believe in manmade global warming, that the bird flu was going to kill us all, that aids would spread to the heterosexual community and kill us all, that acid rain would kill us all, that the ice age would kill us all, that Ronald Reagan would kill us all, that socialism was the answer for mankind, and on and on. I could go on for pages on the failed beliefs of these STUPID liberals with all the answers. How can you be so intelligent if you are always wrong. Liberals are always wrong. “Scientist” are wrong as much as they are right. Today’s science is tomorrows folly.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:32amWhere did God come from?
Report Post »byehlik
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:41amThere is a fork in the road most Intellectuals miss on their way to being educated. At some point they lose what is called common sense and the reality of this loss is seen in their lack of understanding of the connection between the real world and the hypothesizes they have in their heads. I call them Educated Morons. And boy we have got a bunch of them out there!
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:48amWhat a stupid question, where did God come from…By definition God is eternal. He did not “come” from anywhere, He always was, is, and will be. In fact, He is the ONLY definition of eternal, everything else requires a first cause, so in your ignorance you defeated your own argument! Easier to just say you do not know. We do know. lol…
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:51am@American Soldier Seperated – In the Begining God…. The first four words of the Bible. Takes a good bit of faith, but then again, just a mustard seed worth can move a mountain. Takes a whole lot more faith to believe that an ameba crawled out of a slim pit, then became a fish, then a lizard, then a bird,…. then a man. Where did the slim pit come from? Humanism is a religion, and happens to be the religion of the state. Political correctness does what the early catholic church used to do, and what muslims do today. It is a means to hush truth. Scientists that do not believe in God or creation, still know that Darwin and his theory are all wrong. Check out that second law of thermodynamics and fit it in with your evolution.
Report Post »herpderp
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 8:50pm“In fact, He is the ONLY definition of eternal”
Oh, really?
Curious… my dictionary has five other definitions… and they all come before any mention of gods.
Report Post »It would appear you are misinformed.
This is not terribly surprising.
Baberaham Lincoln
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:16amGood to see the Blaze is so concerned over their inconsequential poll numbers that they wrote literally the longest article I have ever seen on this site about it. Get over yourselves. Who cares.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:27amHonestly, I think the transcript of their conversation would have much more interesting than this article. I‘m especially curious about Myers’ quotes, which I could easily see being taken out of context or selectively edited. Not that The Blaze would ever do such a thing, of course.
Report Post »sissykatz
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:30amBaberaham
I DO. WHY DO YOU NOT?? NO NEED TO ANSWER, I ALREADY KNOW.
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:15amI have not seen any data to repudiate or refute him.
His case stands in the shadow of our Constitutional First Amendment.
TEA
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:15amBecause. it. is. FUNNY!
Report Post »Perspective
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:14amHow insecure atheists are. They can’t just stand on their beliefs but feel the need to force them on others. Why should they care if most of us believe in God? Why? Because our faith makes them question their beliefs and they can’t handle the idea that they might not be as smart as they think. Sad indeed.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:30amI could have easily interchanged Atheist with Christian and the sentence would still make sense. How much more pushy of a belief is threatening that we’ll spend all eternity in hell fire can you get?
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:04am@American Soldier Seperated – That threat does not come from Christians, it is a promise from God. The problem with athiests, is that when they close their eyes and night, and are all alone with their thoughts, they know there is an eternal God. They attempt to discredit him, force others not to speak of him, prevent children to pray to him, but they can not make him go away. You are his creation, and you will answer to him one day. The light of the gospel is in every man (you included). How many drunks got their life right through athiesm? How many drug addicts, protistutes, gamblers, abusers…. got their life right by turning to athiesm. Us not so perfect people need a perfect God. I can not count the number of folks I know that were on the bottom, and turned to God (of the Bible), and now are respectable and decent people (but not perfect like the athiests). I attend an old fashioned Baptist church that is defined by its missionary support. We support missionaries the world over, and in our own back yard. We feed the poor, bus in the fatherless, help the widows… It is a lighthouse for the down and out. What does atheism offer these people?
Report Post »LOLReally
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:28pmI have NEVER seen an athiest going door to door attempting to prove there is no god.
Report Post »I have seen hundreds of times someone attempting to shame or guilt others into beliving in god.
There are 9 religous channels on tv spreading your gospel
There are ZERO athiest channels sperading thier belife.
Whos the one constantly spending time and money attempting to prove they are right?
As far as “anti christian”….. BULLS*&T
You are the ones that turn away friendships because we do not belive. You are anti athiest!!
The thought that YOU are responsible for your actions is scary huh?
There were NO crusades by athiests, However christians have killed millions because they did not belive as they did.
rangerp
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 3:28pmLOLReally – Looks like you are on your own crusade right now. “go ye therfore into all the world” it is a commandment from God. Christians do it because they have a genuine concern for the lost.
Are you telling me that athiest did not take up a crusade in the 60s to stomp God out of just about every aspect of American life? I do not mock athiest, I feel sorry for them, and hope they see the light (literally). I pray for them, and am more than glad to take them into my home, eat with them, take them to my church. I have no desire to shun them. I hope to set an example that would make them want what I have. Believe me, I am willing to give it to others, as it is worth having.
Report Post »Offensive Bias
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:57pmLOLREALLY- Atheists did in fact have their own crusade. Look no further then the 20th century…the bloodiest century to date with the likes of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro.
Just these few cause the deaths of of a hundred million lives. Mao having the record of 60 million. So, atheists carry the record of deaths over all other history.
Note: I’m not against all atheists…just the ones who are militant in getting Christianity out of our civil society.
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:12amAs you can see … no one cares “what” the atheists think.
Report Post »AlansTigg
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:23amthat’s giving them credit for actually thinking at all
Report Post »ILoveGlenn
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:11amSo that’s what happened…
Report Post »I had a feeling the poll results were not right.
STS2_SS_Iver
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:27amI know. I answered the poll question, then was totally perplexed to find that the majority were in the “without God” category. Now I see, it all makes sense.
Report Post »Hiswill
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:33amAtheists will never know the love and the peace of knowing Jesus Christ. I will continue to pray for all unbelievers and hope one day their hearts will open up to the love of Christ.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:12pmHiswill, delusional believers in superstition will never know the peace and happiness of being free from the burdens of delusion and superstition and all the confused thinking and never ending bowing, begging and hoping to be let into some imaginary club after dying. I hope that all of you gullible people will someday be free of your false beliefs and free to think your own thoughts without the threat of some all powerful mythical creature breathing down your “unworthy” necks 24/7.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 1:27pmFloridacracker, we do the same thing on my estate, sans the delusional beliefs that you are burdened with. While I admire people that do as I do and are self sufficient and independent, I feel sorry for the gullibility you are plagued with. The rest of your rant about the gnashing teeth etc. is laughable, untrue and will NEVER happen. And when Armageddon never materializes and Jesus never returns, please remember I told you so.
Report Post »KnightofTruth
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 3:14pm@Beckisnuts… my apologies, but I notice one gaping discrepancy in your posts about how believers are deceived and how we would all be much better off freed from gullibility and confusion and whether or not we will enter heaven. You make me smile.
Let us say, hypothetically, that God does exist. If so, and IF the Bible is right, if a true believer has a personal relationship with Christ, and God, then they would be given a sense of ABSOLUTE peace, contentment and grace that only the most powerful being in the universe can give. It is not given to everyone. If you have never felt the gift that God has given, how can you deny that it could have happened to other people? (Certainly not to all that claim to be Christians)
If you have never known it, it does no credit to your character to deny other people what they themselves know in their heart, mind and soul has happened to them, and truthfully? It only serves to lessen yourself in front of those who have seen Christ. To those who do not believe, He does not exist. He has nothing to do with their lives whatsoever. God does not control our lives. We are free to make our own choices. If our choices please Him, then He makes himself known to us. If not, then there is No reason at all for Him to see us, if we do not see him.
If we do not believe he can bless us, He won’t.
If we do not believe He can punish us, then He won’t.
Report Post »(At least not in this life).
Ex_Masshole
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:11am“What we like to do is have a little fun with it…we like to shake them up…”
Dear Blaze, you cut off the rest of that sentence:
“…because we’re soulless a-holes with nothing better to do with our miserable existence.”
Report Post »cntrlfrk
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:11am‘
Why?
Because there is no such thing as an Atheist.
These are Anti-Christian Bigots plain and simple.
Hate runs through their veins.
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Report Post »bikerr
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:19amDitto!
Report Post »Scalzo
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 1:30pmNo, no. Don’t be so dramatic. If anything, we’re anti-religion bigots. We don’t focus just on Christianity. Don’t sell us short!
Honestley though, we don’t hate Chrisitianity. Quite the opposite actually. Like Thomas Jefferson, we agree with the moral teachings, we just don’t buy the supernatural parts is all. Are there some wacky militant fringe athiests out there? Sure. But I bet most religions could name a few of those too…
Most of us are calm and reasonable. We just look at everything through a logical prism.
Report Post »trv1
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 9:36pmThank you Scalzo for making a good point. As an atheist I am a little taken back by a lot of the comments here, I mean sure it is a bit childish to rig a poll. (I’ve seen worse i.e. the Time Magazine poll from a few years back when Moot won was pretty epic). Though the comments here…wow… Too many of you immediately point fingers at the left and get very hostile when it comes to religion, let me remind you though, we have freedom of speech and religion in this country. If you can not handle criticism to your religion and can not articulate a counter-argument you should just stay out of the conversation. Also, yeah I am a libertarian (The party everyone should be). http://lolgod.blogspot.com/2011/05/good-without-god.html
Report Post »Turin
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:10amI’ve got one word for all of you brilliant atheist and pro-evolution adherants:
ABIOGENESIS
Until you get past life from non-life, quit trying to shove your anti-intellectual, unscientific, religious dogma down our throats.
Report Post »TrailerParkDave
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:03amI give that 2 thumbs up!
Report Post »khantron
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 6:27pmWhat’s so hard about abiogenesis? Life is simply chemical reactions organized for their own perpetuation. What’s so unbelievable about chemical reactions being at the foundation? Something much simpler than even the bacterium that pack the world today.
Report Post »herpderp
Posted on August 13, 2011 at 8:57pmUntil you get past the hurdle of providing one, solitary morsel of solid evidence for the existence of god/s, quit trying to shove your anti-intellectual, unscientific, religious dogma down our throats.
Do you see how that works, Mr Stupid?
The scientific method has done more for humankind in the last 200 years than supernatural thinking and religious dogma has for all the preceding thousands. If you want to be thankful, be thankful that you live NOW and not THEN.
Report Post »txn4justice
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:10amatheists have no faith. Forgive them because they know not what they do.
Report Post »Turin
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:36amTXN4Justice,
Report Post »You are mistaken if you believe that atheists have no faith. The atheist‘s relation to religion is like a vegetarian’s relation to eating. The term “vegetarian” tells you what a person does not eat, not what he does eat. Similarly, the term “atheist” tells you what a person does not believe in as divine (God), not what he DOES believe in as divine. For example, the ancient Pythagoreans believed that numbers were divine and even had a prayer to the number 10. They were atheists who also held a religious belief in something as divine. Materialism is another example of a religious belief that does not believe in a God/god.
LOLReally
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:44pmtorin, as an athiest I need to correct you. You call a lack of belife a religon. But worshiping something one belives as devine is also athiesm?
Report Post »We dont care what you think, We think you are nuts. To us its as if you think micky mouse could be your creator. We think you waste your time and efforts attemping to ensure your placement in “heaven”. Do not call the lack of belife a religon.
We look at you in pity. The same pity you would have for someone who has been swept up in a ponzi scheme, they got there because of thier own greed. Your greed is to ensure your passage to a “better” place. And the fear of you being wrong scares you. Im not scared of “standing before the altar” beacuse there is none. And if there were I think he would like me more because I lived a good life without the fear of “hell” over my head. I did it because it was the right thing to do, You do it to save your butt. Get it now? No, I didnt think so.
Scalzo
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 1:40pmIt’s arrogance in statements like that drive us atheists crazy. Do you see that? That some how you know better because you subscribe to a ‘celestial dictatorship’ (per Chris Hitchens). Where your made imperfect. Flawed and a sinner. To have to beg the forgiveness and for salvation from the very being that created you.
Does that make an ounce of sense?
Report Post »Turin
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 2:16pmI should clarify. What I meant to say is that you are mistaken if you think that atheists have no religious belief. While an atheist professes to not believe in God, and I don’t doubt him, the profession of that disbelief in no way describes his fundamental presupposition regarding the foundation of ultimate realty (the divine) – and THAT is a religious belief that guides the way each individual views and interprets the world he lives in; it’s not unusual for a person to be unaware of such a belief on a conscious level, much less to be able to articulate a considered, detailed position on the subject.
Report Post »txn4justice
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 8:36amThrough a belief in Jesus and God you can have peace in your heart, mind and soul. I tell you this to help you. Not to convince you.
Report Post »God Almighty
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 11:35amYou say that like having faith is a good thing. Thanks, but I’ll take evidence and reason for a $1000 Alex.
Report Post »nysparkie
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:08amHe can only count numbers when it suits his needs. All other numbers/polls are meaningless to him for you can not prove anything by faith. I have faith. I have faith that his guy will burn in H E L L.
Report Post »nysparkie
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:09amthis guy will
Report Post »Joseph28
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:08amAhh Atheists looking for reassurance is so deliciously funny.
Report Post »nacilbuper
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:08amAnybody know Mr. Myers phone number?
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:07amPZ Meyers… Typical freak of nature from Minnesota, where they breed really huge freaks of nature…
Report Post »Raymond Koepsell
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 2:10pmMy reply at PZ Myers’ blog
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/08/more_tax_breaks_for_the_ark_pa.php
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:06amwhat would you expect from a bunch of free thinkers who think we were created by a comet fart.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:14amIn their case, I almost have come to believe in reverse evolution. It takes more faith to be an athiest than a Christian.
Report Post »Raymond Koepsell
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 2:08pmI fought back as best I could at PZ Myers’ blog
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/08/more_tax_breaks_for_the_ark_pa.php
Report Post »kevtheatheist
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:05amHow childish of this guy. As if polls on the internet mattered.
Report Post »nonofmybiznez
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 12:04pmWhen the world comes to an end and Dr. Myers stands in front of the Book of Life, God will say to Dr. PZ Myers, I did not know you. That is all that matters. I would rather live my life believing that he exists, than to die and find out that he exists and I did not believe. I don’t need to die to know that he exists. I feel fortunate. Hate me if you like, but your hatred of me doesn’t matter to me. I feel sad that you don’t have what I have.
Report Post »Cathcart
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 4:06pmWe can debate this till the end of earths time but the truth is that there is so much more evidence that God exists and has a plan then any other theory or religion. I firmly believe that the bible is 99.9% true and factual and if you look hard enough you will began to see all the signs that Jesus is the only way and we should look to the good book and follow gods commandments. It comes down to this all you atheists you can either believe now or later. Say two men die and one is a true follower and the other an atheist. If god is real the atheist goes to hell but if god is not real then the christian spent his life in a way that was not wasted and lived a life showing others how to live a pure and meaningful life. This comes down to the atheist burns and the christian says that sucks where is god. Who has more to risk??? Just keep debating all you atheists because it will never end and your ignorance will drive you to hell.
Report Post »Hugh7
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 10:44pmIndeed, How childish of the author of this piece, as if polls on the Internet mattered, or proved anything. Who knows which such polls have or have not been stacked? He ssems to be grizzling because it wasn’t stacked HIS way.
Report Post »God Almighty
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 11:32amAhh, Pascal’s wager. Now all you have to do is hope you’re not facing Allah when you get there…
Report Post »Raymond Koepsell
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 2:08pmI fought back at PZ Myers’ atheist blog
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/08/more_tax_breaks_for_the_ark_pa.php
Report Post »WeDontNeedNoStinkingBadges
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 7:39pmThis is the “god-haters branch” (little “g” to them) of the Progressives (communists) cabal of traitors.
“NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER Now Under Attack In AMERICA!”
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WeDontNeedNoStinkingBadges
Posted on August 12, 2011 at 8:15pm“How childish of this guy. As if polls on the internet mattered.”
Actually, the guy is just a childish guy … internet polls being no matter.
“Seriously, Aren’t Atheists Embarrassed by P.Z. Myers?”
http://www.algemeiner.com/2011/05/29/seriously-arent-atheists-embarrassed-by-p-z-myers/
Who IS “PZ Myers”? Those who know first hand have this to say:
“PZ’s post reads like it was written by an intemperate teenager in the midst of a hormonal rage. Among other things, he calls De Dora “witless,” “wanker,” “wishy-washy,” and “sloppy-thinking”; he accuses Michael of engaging in “cowardly intellectual dishonesty” and of using a “quisling” approach…
If PZ thinks that this sort of language belongs within any thoughtful writing about rational discourse, he really needs to look up the dictionary definitions of rational, thoughtful and discourse. Then again, it is precisely this sort of theatrics that apparently makes him so popular, as nothing gets people’s attention on the internet so much as shouting as LOUDLY as possible, regardless of the vacuity of what one is actually saying.”
Read more at http://rationallyspeaking.blogspot.com/2010/04/pz-myers-is-witless-wanker-who-peddles.html
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