Atheist Lobbyists Launch Massive Effort to Organize for Political Power in All 50 States
- Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:21am by
Billy Hallowell
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The Secular Coalition for America (SCA), a national group representing atheists and secularists, is continuing its plans to politically organize on a massive scale. Back in March, The Blaze reported about the group’s intensive lobbying of Congress. Now, the SCA has announced a schedule that will lead to the creation of state chapters throughout the United States.
This announcement, which will bolster atheists’ power across the nation, comes just weeks after the lobbying group announced the hiring of Edwina Rogers, a prominent Republican strategist, as the group’s executive director. According to a press release announcing the 501(c)(4)’s growth, new chapters will be launching in 48 states and in Washington, D.C. and Puerto Rico by the end of 2012. There are already chapters in Arizona and Alabama.
In June, the SCA claims that it will begin holding organizing calls for individual states. These trainings, which will continue through August, will provide the framework needed to assist chapters in their formation. This preparatory period will also include assistance with web sites and educational materials, as well as other support services.
The purpose of the organizational model is to very clearly magnify the SCA’s impact so that non-believers can continue their campaign for ideological dominance and equality — specifically at the state level.
“Some of the most egregious violations of church state separation are being promoted and passed at the state level, and we absolutely must act to stop it,” Rogers proclaimed. “There are 40 million Americans who don’t identify with any religion, but our political influence has been limited because we have not been organized. This year, that changes.”
The SCA, according to its statement, has traditionally focused upon federal efforts throughout its 10-year history. But this new effort — to bring efforts into effect at the state-level — represents a major shift in strategy. Here is the schedule the group presents in terms of how it will reach out to U.S. states:
- Phase 1 (June 1 – June 22) – Colorado, Connecticut, Hawaii, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Virginia
- Phase 2 (June 25 – July 13) – Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Missouri, Montana, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Texas
- Phase 3 (July 16 – August 3) – Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Mississippi, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Tennessee, Washington
- Phase 4 (August 6 – August 17) - Alaska, Delaware, District of Columbia, Idaho, Illinois, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Nevada, New Jersey, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, Vermont, Wisconsin
- Phase 5 (August 20 – August 31) – Indiana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, Puerto Rico, West Virginia, Wyoming
The SCA will use this opportunity to stop legislation that it sees as reprehensible. This will likely include bills that allegedly blur the lines between church and state. Additionally, atheists will use the opportunity to train and work with local and state officials before they make their way to Congress and other federal posts — yet another method that helps put secularists’ issues to the forefront.
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Comments (347)
neozon
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:59am“The Secular Coalition for America holds that freedom of conscience, including religious freedom, is a fundamental American value as evidenced by the fact that this is the first freedom protected in the Bill of Rights. Freedom of conscience is best guaranteed by protecting and strengthening the secular character of our government. Religious tolerance, a necessary product of this freedom, must be extended to people of all religions and to those without religious beliefs.
The Secular Coalition for America is committed to promoting reason and science as the most reliable methods for understanding the universe and improving the human condition. Informed by experience and inspired by compassion, we encourage the pursuit of knowledge, meaning, and responsible ethical codes without reference to supernatural forces. We affirm the secular form of government as a necessary condition for the interdependent rights of religious freedom and religious dissent. We come together as national freethought organizations to cooperate in areas of mutual interest and to support each other in our efforts to uphold separation between government and religion for the benefit of all within the nontheistic community. As resources allow, we will actively cooperate in projects that support our position, with priority given to political action initiatives and public relations opportunities.”
Taken directly from there site. Seems to me they are defenders of freedom.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:09amYes. They are. We’re finally beginning to move ahead as a species without the boot of religion on our necks. It’s awesome!
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:29amLOL, they’re defenders of freedom the same way that the Soviet Union was.
Report Post »wildbluyonder11
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:33amFunny, “freedom of conscience”? In the First Amendment? That’s odd, I don’t see that in my copy of the Constitution. I see “freedom of religion”. Yep, it’s right there, in the First Amendment. Make no mistake, atheism is a religion, so by all means, I support their right to practice their religion. But the goal of these people is to REMOVE all other religion from the national conscience and THAT is against what this country was founded on. They want everyone to denounce their faith and accept that everything is as “scientists” tell us it is. Throughout history, “science” hasn’t always been the best route to take, and, fortunately, there have been people of faith to keep “science” in check, otherwise we would have destroyed ourselves long, long ago. Unfortunately, today we seek to push God further and further away, and I fear that all too soon, it will prove to be our undoing.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:40amGIT-R-DONE — did the Soviet Union believe in freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom to assemble and the right to redress government for grievances?
It is people like you, who would deny others the rights you enjoy, who are more in keeping with the ideals of the Soviet Union.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:43amBruce – You atheists are NOT supporters of freedom of religion. So you are exactly like the former Soviet Union.
Report Post »flyingpeters
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:49amSo, all I’m hearing from the SCA is that they are going to go nation wide with soulless bigotry. They hate religion so much that they have unknowingly created their own. They still think there is a separation of church and state, but they fail to show me where it resides in the constitution. Traditional American Religion is under attack….time to go back to church and re-establish a footing.
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:53amIt’s ridiculous to think “pushing secularism or atheism down peoples’ throats” means stopping theocrats from doing exactly that.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:58amGittinDumb and his ilk are the ones using Soviet-style tactics to deprive people of their liberties.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:59amGIT-R-DONE — on the contrary, I believe anyone should believe what they will. You cannot point a single atheist trying to stop anyone from believing as they will in America. Not a single example. You can make up all the lies you want. But you cannot point to a single fact. If you could, you would post a link to a website.
You, on the other hand, believe only Christians have freedom of religion and wish to suppress all other thought.
Report Post »themachinist239
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:03amGIT-R-DONE, as an atheist, I support all religions but will never put faith in any of them. As an American, I would fight and die for someone else’s right to practice their religion. You keep making these sweeping generalizations about atheists; is it to fit a mold of some atheist that perhaps wronged you at some time in your life?
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:29amNo surprise that the atheists are upset at me speaking the truth. Atheists overall are not supporters of freedom of religion.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:33amBruce – Then explain why you atheists sue to try to eradicate religious symbols from being displayed on government property. I don’t even complain about Jewish symbols being displayed on government property while you atheists do.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:52amI think everyone has a right to believe what they want to, or to not believe, as the case may be.
Some groups find religious symbols offensive and want them removed, and that’s were the problem lies.
At what point does removing religious symbols from public places become erasing our history?
Do we include trees, zodiacs, angels, cherubs, etc? At what point do we live under the ‘theocracy’ of atheism?
I think the key is respect. I try hard not be offensive, but mostly I try not to be offended. I see too many people that are easily offended by seemingly trivial matters.
I have no problem with someone questioning God and seeing if there is another explanation other than the supernatural.
For example, it would is foolish to say that people are homosexual simply because the ‘devil made them do it’. If there is a gene responsible, that in no way affects my religious beliefs.
I would love to know how the universe was created, it in no way affects my belief in God.
We have reason and intellect for a purpose, to figure things out. There are no boundaries on what is acceptable to study, nothing is off limits.
You believe what you want, all that I ask is the same privilege. Certainly a reasonable man would agree with that.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:58amBrother_Ed – Only an unreasonable person would be offended by someone mentioning God in person.
And these same atheists have no problem with offending people they don’t like yet they whine about getting offended all the time.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:27pm@Git
“Then explain why you atheists sue to try to eradicate religious symbols from being displayed on government property.”
You mean removing unconstitutional endorsements of religion from government land? Probably because they’ve been ruled unconstitutional. Just a hunch.
Come on man. I worship Christ, but I’m also not about to throw out THAT old strawman. Learn about what place the Supreme Court has in deciding constitutionality before you go throwing stones.
“I don’t even complain about Jewish symbols being displayed on government property while you atheists do.”
Just curious, what Jewish symbols are displayed on government property? Only thing that comes to mind are menorahs during the winter months; but that’s constitutionally fine as long as other faiths can share their views as well. Hence why manger scenes are ok too, as long as there’s also space for other views if they want to contribute.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:40pmLocked – Only an idiot needs to listen to what the courts have to say.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:47pmbrother_ed
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:52am
I think everyone has a right to believe what they want to, or to not believe, as the case may be.
Some groups find religious symbols offensive and want them removed, and that’s were the problem lies.
Report Post »________________________________
Dishonesty froma Christian, how surprising. The issue is not the removal of religious symbols. The issue is religious symbols polluting PUBLIC LAND and violating the establishment clause. I have no problem with angles, cross, etc. on PRIVATE LAND, it when PUBLIC LAND and tax dollars are use to promote, and in violation of the Constitution, the Christian or any other fairy tale.
neozon
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:58pmGovernment is not a place to hold your church gathering. That is what your church is for. Government is supposed to be based on objective laws not subjective laws that bend to the whims of religious zealots. Laws that protect and uphold individual rights to his/her own life to do with it as he/she chooses.
It’s funny how people forget their history about the dark ages. Oh, yeah! Christianity is a religion of LOVE! I wonder how many human lives have been slaughtered in the name of God or Allah?! You can try, but you can’t hide a contradiction when you see it.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:59pm@Git
“Only an idiot needs to listen to what the courts have to say.”
I’d argue that only an idiot would ignore that court rulings dictate constitutionality. That’s a fact, jack.
But other than that, what about those Jewish symbols you mentioned?
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:03pm@Encinom
” I have no problem with angles, cross, etc. on PRIVATE LAND…”
To be fair, I don’t mind angles on public land either; it would be hard to build ANYTHING without angles and geometry being involved. Nor do I mind crosses, as long as they’re things like crosswalks.
;-)
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:26pmANONYMOUSE: How specifically has the “boot of religion” been on “your neck” and effected you in your day to day life???
ANONYMOUSE said:
Report Post »“We’re finally beginning to move ahead as a species without the boot of religion on our necks. It’s awesome!”
binge_thinker
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:42pmMilitant atheism is a foe of religion worldwide. Militant atheists are determined to remove the world of any vestige of religion and God. To do so, some atheistic organizations are adopting an evangelical approach meant to proselytize and convert because their agenda is so wholly rejected otherwise. These organizations are well funded and well organized but poorly thought out. Though they hide their true evil intents behind a veneer of seemingly honorable aims, such as defending human rights, their final intentions are far from honorable and innocuous.
Report Post »lovenfl3
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 10:54amWhat’s so amazing about these people is that they’re supposed to be against “organized” religion. So how do they go about it? They create “organized” anti-religious groups. Talk about extreme hypocrisy. The left constantly talks about separation of church and state, but what are they doing now? That’s right, they’re dictating religious mandates. The world has turned completely upside down.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5kwKTxxEy4
Anonymouse.
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 1:03pmThe SCA is legal and it is unstoppable. Whine, lie, fret, complain and dleude yourselves all you want. You cannot stop the SCA. Glenn Beck cannot stop the SCA. John Hagee cannot stop the SCA. The SCA is American as apple pie and is 100% within their constitutional rights. Face it and embrace it. You are powerless to do anything at all about it. Reason always prevails over fear and superstition in a free society.
Report Post »scarebear83
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 3:37pmWill any atheist answer me this? I have asked several times but no one seems to reply. If our Founding Fathers original intentions were to keep religion and state separate and it‘s unconstitutional to have anything mentioning a religion on public lands then why isn’t anyone asking for the Liberty Bell to be taken down? It is inscribed after all with a Bible verse, “Proclaim LIBERTY throughout all the Land unto all the inhabitants thereof” (Leviticus 25:10). It was used publicly back then and is on public grounds now. So why isn’t the Liberty Bell moved to private lands?
Report Post »scentofhope
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:56amAtheists don’t worship the Judeo-Christian God because they’re too busy worshipping Obama.
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:04amlol. vote for him, maybe. worship him? hardly.
Report Post »neozon
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:09amIsn’t it a sin to lie? You better head over to the confession area.
You’re so false that you’re illogical.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:10amThere are many conservatives who are also people of reason. Your remark has no merit at all.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:16amSCENTOFHOPE — you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I will not vote for anyone with a (D) or (R) beside their name.
Maybe you should actually listen to what Atheists themselves say, instead of what people who hate Atheists tell you we believe and think.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:33amI did a little experiment PHILLYATHEIST. I looked at the “Holder trains black pastors about how to approach the election” story first to see if all of you “constitutionally minded” atheists and lefties were criticizing Holder for this blatant conjoining of church and state. You’re all conspicuously absent on that board..but you’re very vocal on this one.
Report Post »You’re as predictable as you are duplicitous.
Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:34amAtheists overall statistically tend to be much more radically left wing and want to use the government to try to silence freedom of religion.
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:42amAVENGERK – this is a story about Atheism. that’s where i tend to comment on The Blaze. well that and articles about Science.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:44amPhillyatheist – Anti-religious bigotry that you have doesn’t count as science no matter how much you want it to.
Report Post »TheGrtDcptn
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:44ambruce p. wrote…
Maybe you should actually listen to what atheists themselves say, instead of what people who hate atheists tell you we believe and think.
GIT-R-DONE — how many times have you raped your daughter today?
Is this representative of what atheists stand for…?! These are YOUR words, and we are listening (seeing)…You are despicable…
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:57amGit-R-Done writes:
1. “Anonymouse – If we didn’t have religion, humanity wouldn’t exist, moron.
2. You atheists have also stood in the way of scientific advancement. Why else do you oppose capitalism?
3. Look at how well your beloved atheist nation of the former Soviet Union did.”
1. Humanity existed for tens of thousands (probably hundreds of thousands) of years before religion was invented.
2. Most leading scientists do not believe in the supernatural.
3. My country is the United States of America.
Git-R-Done is wrong again on all 3 points he failed at making. He wins this week‘s dummy prize of a free tube of Glenn Beck’s Bacon-Flavored Toothpaste.
Email me your mailing address Git-R-Done at beckisnuts77@yahoo.com to collect your prize. Off you go now goober.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:59amThegrt – How many Christians have you killed today? You atheists have earned every bit of the scorn you get.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 12:35pmTHEGRTDCPTN — He continues to accuses atheists, atheists in this conversation, of killing Christians, burning churches and wanting to suppress the freedoms of others. He is making things up in order to attack people he does not like. I am simply using his tactics against him.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 12:40pmIn the “numbskull can’t read and comprehend dept.” Git-R-Done attacks someone who was trying to defend him. lolol
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:26pmAnonymouse and Bruce can‘t refute anything I’ve posted, no surprise.
Not allowing someone to display their religious symbols on government property is trying to silence religious freedom.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:30pmThat‘s a nice attempt to deflect PHILLYATHEIST but it’s not going to work is it champ?
You have a story on Obama’s Attorney General actively coaching black pastors on how to approach the election a clear conjoining of “church and state” that you lefties and militant atheists rail against when you demand inocuous things like prayer banners be removed from class rooms yet you remain silent on Obama’s allies merging state and religion and you chime in on the militant atheist board instead.
Next time you bleat about “seperation of church and state” and how fervent you are about defending the constitution..I’ll remind you of your slience towards Holder and his coaching of black pastors.
This selective blindness and silence of your lefty atheists doesn’t surprise me in the least..it’s just fascinating to watch it take place nonetheless.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:38pmAvengerk, your theory is all bunk. Off you go.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:14pmAVENGERK: GREAT point! “Holder trains black pastors about how to approach the election”….Ha ha, even Bill Maher who you know HATES God and religion gave Obama a million dollars…hmmmm…LOL typical high standards for their cause’s…they’ll use anybody to get votes. Although I admit, MOST politicians these days have no standards…sigh
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 4:44pmGirlnurse, you are a liar. Bill Maher does not hate “GOD” at all. He simply knows that gods do not exist. So tell the truth for a change.
Report Post »TheGrtDcptn
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:12pm*AHEM* Git-R-Done…Please read my post again…
Thegrt – How many Christians have you killed today? You atheists have earned every bit of the scorn you get.
I did ‘not’ write that vile comment to you, I copy/pasted it from bruce p.
Report Post »It is beyond offensive, but I’m sure he is aware of his actions.
binge_thinker
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:46pmAmen to that, Scent.
But Libs do indeed have a Religion. Here is it’s code of ethics:
1. Smoking cigars = bad.
Report Post »2. Smoking pot = good.
3. Killing babies = good.
4. Executing condemned murderers = bad.
5. Communism = good.
6. Liberty & Responsibility = bad.
7. Any wacked-out guru, pseudo-religion, “spirituality” or militant atheism = good.
8. Jesus Christ and Christians = bad.
scentofhope
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:56pmAm I the only person on earth who uses sarcasm? My comment was meant to be half-sarcastic and half-serious. I am a Christian, but I don’t hate Atheists, in fact I pity them, because a life without Christ is an empty life, and I know of which I speak.
I can only imagine the hue and cry over my comment had I posted what I intended to originally–that Obama’s fervent efforts to get taxpayers to fund the murder of tens of thousands of innocent babies via Planned Parenthood is a direct order from Soros, who intends to feed the aborted babies to his dark lord Satan.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Report Post »DoseofReality
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 12:29pmScentofhope – in all honesty, do you feel that every single person on the face of the planet that has ever lived since the time of Christ has led an empty life? Every single Jew, Muslim, hindu, Buddhist, atheist, agnostic, native american tribes, african tribes, etc. Every one of them but you and people who feel exactly as you do have led an empty life? Do you realize how unbelievably arrogant and demeaning that is? Im really trying not to be a jerk, but is that how you honestly feel?
Report Post »scentofhope
Posted on June 1, 2012 at 1:17amNo, what I’m saying that Atheists who say God (Judeo-Christian or otherwise) doesn’t exist or that man created God, that those who do believe in God are ignorant, etc etc are the ones I feel pity for.
Report Post »judy1270
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:46amWow,
Report Post »Where did they come up with the money for all this?………did they hook up with the ‘ NAACP ?’
You do know what the main goal is right?
The word_ God taken off anything that has to do with government.
They want to be in ‘ Congress ’ well, well, how nice!
40 million ………. people’ lol
There are 300,000,000…………….! In the United States’
I think the fools are out numbered. So that‘s get ready for a ’ Fight ‘………. who up for it?
Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:02amDon‘t vote for anyone who clearly hasn’t read the Constitution!
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:12amYou can have the numbers, I’ll take the law.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:31amJudy127 is a an excellent example of the religious type that uses religion to bully others because they’re too weak-minded to function independently.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:42amAnonymouse is so weak minded that he has to suppress religious freedom in order to get what he wants.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:51amYou have it backwards Git-R-Done. Religion has had it’s boot heel on the necks of humanity for centuries and now that science is freeing people from its superstitious clap trap, they’re crying about having their “liberties” taken away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C_bu2ykjO4
Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:59amAnonymouse – You atheists don’t have science on your side. And you atheists have killed more people than any religion has.
You should study up your Marxist dogma and how many people it’s killed.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:18amGit-R, you are hilarious. Science has NOTHING to do with religion. If religion had total control over humanity, we’d still be living in thatched huts with no utilities. W O W!
Report Post »drkmagneto
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:21amTrying to take a country that was clearly founded on Judeo-Christian ethics and morals and drive all vestiges of religion or G-d from the public square/view is narrow-minded and ignorant to say the least. Just because you can‘t touch something doesn’t mean it isn’t real. No one is saying Atheists “have” to believe, but let those who do believe enjoy their beliefs without denigrating or insulting them. Atheists, please re-read the 1st Amendment. It is intended(if you’d care to read the Federalist Papers) to prevent a “Theocracy” in this country. It does not prohibit the religious expression thereof. I also do not see anything that says anything of a “religious” nature cannot be in a public square if the public in question wants it there.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:31amAnonymouse – If we didn’t have religion, humanity wouldn’t exist, moron.
You atheists have also stood in the way of scientific advancement. Why else do you oppose capitalism?
Look at how well your beloved atheist nation of the former Soviet Union did.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:48amGit-R-Done, if you’re just going to spew nonsense and lie about the positions and views of others, you only make yourself appear foolish to everyone else, no matter what side they’re on.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 12:00pmAnonymouse – No surprise that you can‘t refute anything I’ve posted. Nor can you show any facts to support your anti-Christian dogma.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:40amIt’s becoming more and more obvious that Glenn Beck is trying to start a religious war in this nation. He is transforming from a goofy sobbing rodeo clown to a dangerous Jim Jones style religious end times nutter. Maybe he’s trying to force Obama into arresting him? Whatever his game is, he’s up to no good. Beck’s bogus “Restor Love” Amway style rally this summer is tied into this as well. BTW, Beck promised us riots and blood in the streets this summer. Let’s see how that plays out now that summer is almost here.
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:49amOkay troll. Whatever you say.. NOT!
Report Post »judy1270
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:01amAnonymouse:
Report Post »Your name says it all’ Ha Ha.
Beck, is not the one running around ripping down ‘ Cross’s ‘…………now is he.
You comment, is flat out stupid.
Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:01amSticks and stones GhandiWas. I’ve been dead on right about Beck for the past 2 years since he went off the deep end. Even Andrew Breitbart realized that I was right. Check his comments from last December. Beck is a huckster and he’s becoming a dnagerous one. He’ll end up in deep trouble – but I think he knows that and is planning to use that to further his schemes. Just watch how this plays out and remember what I’ve been saying.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55751455@N02/6910751527/
Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:35amAnd you atheists aren’t trying to start a religious war? LOL
You atheists have killed more people than any religion has.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:53amGittinDumb, you’ve been fed a whole lot of misinformation and you swallowed it down without even blinking. You‘re a finalist for this week’s prize of a tube of Glenn Beck’s Baco-Flavored Toothpaste. Exciting huh?
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:00amYou should read up the former Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, North Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, etc.
Looks like you’re the idiot on here.
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:26am@Git-R-Dumb
Report Post »[You atheists have killed more people than any religion has.]
[You should read up the former Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, North Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, etc.]
You’re confusing communism with atheism. But I wouldn’t expect an uneducated child to figure that out. You are still a child under the age of 14, right?
Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:32amNo surprise that anonymouse can’t refute the fact that his precious atheist countries have killed more people than any religion has.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:59amGit_R-Done, you’re lucky that I even reply to your childish rants at all. If I passed you on the street, I’d maybe toss a coin into your cup and not even say “you’re welcome” after you thanked me. lolol
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 12:01pmAnonymouse – Then prove me wrong, moron. Oh that’s right, you can’t. You atheists have killed more people than any religion has.
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 12:27pmCommunism does not equal Atheism.
Likewise
Atheism does not equal Communism.
Maybe he needs responses in the form of a comic seeing how he hasn’t matured yet.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/atheism/1.png
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:27pmPontiac – Yes it does. Quit trying to deny facts.
Communism is an atheist based ideology.
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 5:04pmBelief or disbelief in god is not a prerequisite for communism. Atheism is the disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings and nothing more…
Report Post »You’re either a troll or one of the biggest imbeciles to grace the internet. Your post are so gloriously ignorant and deranged that I/we really didn’t need to argue with you so much as keep you raving. You and those like you certainly do more harm to theism than we atheist can. For that I congratulate you.
binge_thinker
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:51pm@ Pontiac
Report Post »As we say in Texas, you couldn’t pour water out of a boot with instructions
printed on the heel.
Communists leaders were motivated by a strong desire to impose an ideological package over the whole world. The package included the eradication of Religion, defined by arch-atheist, Karl Marx, as “The opium of the people.” According to Marx, religion helped keep the masses passive before the abuse of the wealthy and powerful, and the only way to free them from the stupor, God and religion had to be eradicated. Lenin embraced Marx’s views and so did Stalin up to the Second World war. The enforcement of Atheism was a “critical” requirement for Communism’s success, and thus it had to be implemented at all costs. This meant oppressive measures, such as brainwashing in state schools, the closing of houses of worship and arresting countless religious leaders.
Kinda sounds familiar to what you and your ilk are doing today.
Pontiac
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 10:41am[This meant oppressive measures, such as brainwashing in state schools, the closing of houses of worship and arresting countless religious leaders.
Kinda sounds familiar to what you and your ilk are doing today.]
How many people were killed in the name of god, millions…
How many people were killed in the name of communism, millions.
How many people were killed in the name of atheism, zero.
You cannot fault atheism for your own failings. No student is being told there is no god in school by government, no houses of worship are being closed by government, no religious leaders are being arrested by government for being too religious. No, people are finally waking up, growing tired of organized religion, and preachers are being arrested for tax evasion and child molestation. You simply can no longer get away with abusing the law and using government as a propaganda tool for your bronze age mythology. Cry me a river if you can no longer use government force to condition people into being a christian zombie.
Report Post »DoseofReality
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 12:34pmI think we can all agree that Git-R-Done is a very, very simple person. Its not his fault, hes probably the product of a terrible, terrible southern school based on his name. He knows not of what he speaks, I would suggest not entertaining discussions with such a weak minded, uneducated individual. Would you argue with a mentally handicapped person? Its more polite and will be easier on you all if you just smile and move on to more intelligent discussions
Report Post »ryguy1985
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:34amI am an Atheist but I don’t get all butt-hurt over crosses, Christmas, or any thing religious that doesn’t cause physical harm to someone! In fact my family is religious and I respectively celebrate Christmas with them. I do however want to state my issues with Atheists attacking the whole separation of church and state thing by explaining the definition of religion and how Atheism Is in fact a Religion! Religion is defined as an organized group with a belief in a god or entity. pretty obvious. Atheism is defined as an organized group with a belief that there is no god! The keyword here is ‘belief’. So the fact that Atheism is a belief ( and it is, because there is no absolute proof there is or isn’t a god) in itself categorizes it as a religion. This being known, I can’t figure out why no one is doing the same to keep atheism separate from state. Also, I would like to point out that they have major issues with crosses or religious symbols on public land. So why isn’t anyone putting up giant crosses or statues on privately owned land? I myself would applaud something like that!
Report Post »neozon
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:47amTechnically your statement is false. There is only proof with evidence. If there is no evidence then there is nothing. Just because you say you cannot not prove it that it makes it proof that it exists. That logic is a fallacy. Proof requires only evidence. Only evidence can prove something and without any form of evidence it is based on nothing.
Report Post »hi
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:52amI am a Christian and can see the atheist view of not wanting crosses on government property. I would not like Muslim crescents displayed.I agree with you that the atheist group should be considered a religion.
Report Post »PS I hope you try a Bible church this Sunday or one day! It is for cerebral folks who want to learn the meaning of the Bible, the historicity, and the science/evidence that backs it up.
Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:54amYou’re full of it. Not believing in the supernatural is not a religion. Your assertion is absurd. You and most other adults (except maybe Snowleopard) do not believe in Santa Claus, but that doesn‘t mean you’re a member of some Anti-Santa religious organization. Stop torturing logic with your silly arguments.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:55amBTW, you’re no atheist. You’re lying about that and it shows.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:03amIt’s scary to see how many people are walking around believing in all this superstitious supernatural nonsense. Church is mind control – nothing more.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:36amAnonymouse – And you atheists don’t support mind controlling people? LOL
Look at how your precious communism has killed and mind controlled more people than any religion has.
Report Post »wildbluyonder11
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:44amApparently, following anonymouse’s logic, atheism MUST be a religion, since anonymouse can determine whether or not someone else is an atheist. Your non-belief isn’t in order with their non-belief so you must not be an atheist. What a sham! Next thing you know, there‘ll be atheists knocking on your door asking you if you’ve heard the “good news”. What a bunch of loons.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:56amGittinDumb, I was a conservative when your hero Glenneth was running around drunk with a bag of weed in his purse and a pony tail flapping around behind his empty skull. Lots of conservatives (SE Cupp for example) are people of reason who don’t believe in the supernatural. Your comment, as usual, have no merit.
Report Post »themachinist239
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:26amGIT-R-DONE, I love how you seamlessly associate being an atheist with being a communist. The atheist American soldiers who have died throughout our history to fight communism are disgraced by comments like this. You are literally so ignorant, it’s offensive. Making sweeping generalizations about groups of people like “They all do this” or “They all believe this” is ignorant. That’s exactly the type of statement you hate to see about Christianity, yet you don’t even hesitate to make the same absurd statements about other people. Guess what? I’m an atheist, capitalist, proud American. Technically, your head should explode right now.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 12:06pmThemachinist239, Git-R-done’s head could never explode. Empty vacuums only implode.
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 12:11pmGIT – try telling Pat Tillman’s family that he was a communist. i dare you, i double dare you!
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:41pmMore Christians have died for me than atheists.
Report Post »themachinist239
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:27pmGIT-R-DONE, I don‘t know why you’ve chosen to irrationally argue yourself into a corner. You’ve now made it clear that you think only christian lives lost in the name of freedom deserve acknowledgement. So tell me, on Monday did you make a point to honor all of America’s fallen soldiers or just the christian ones? Serious question.
Report Post »DeOppressoLiber
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:32amNo God, No Inalienable Rights. What Man Gives, Man Will Take Away. Even if I did not believe in God, I would not want the country to change from a Judaeo Christian base to an atheist based one. You have to ask why would they want to get rid of God? So they can do away with the Bill Of Rights that is the bases of all of our freedoms, and they are their to defend our Inalienable Rights.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:55amNo. You’re wrong. So you have nothing to fear.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:00amWith religion, no inalienable rights. Nothing resembling American liberty can be found anywhere in the Bible, or the Torah, or the Koran, so forth and so forth.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:07amEvery human being on the planet deserves to live free and prosper. We don’t need to be “given” that right by anyone – especially not some make believe supernatural guy-in-the-sky who never existed.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:37amSo the atheists are stating that we get rights from the government, which is a scary mindset.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:01amGIT-R-DONE — point to a single atheist who says our rights come from the government.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:04amGit-R-done got it wrong yet again. Off he goes.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:34amWhy do I hear atheists all the time state how the government gives us rights?
They have no place else to say where our rights come from since they have to come from somewhere.
And statistically atheists tend to be much more left wing than religious people.
I’ve also met more atheists who were radical left wingers compared to conservative atheists.
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 12:20pm[no place else to say where our rights come from since they have to come from somewhere.]
Report Post »They come from men, seeing as how it is men that speak of them, debate them, pen them, fight for them, and die for them. Men that are far more intelligent than you. But in your jealousy ignorance you want to take that away and give the credit to some imaginary sky daddy which has done NOTHING but warp your brain…
Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:42pmPontiac – Only an idiot would consider our rights to come from men. No surprise that you idiots worship humanity.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:31pmANONYMOUSE SAID: “Every human being on the planet deserves to live free and prosper”
Does that include infants in the womb? How bout Christians who believe homosexuality is a sin? How bout child abusers..should they “live free and prosper too?
You see whether you know it or not, life is not that simplistic….I believe people have unalienable rights given to us by God but we live in a world where unfortunately there is evil.
We have to make certain judgements based on morals unfortunately and if we hadn‘t done it the past 200 years we probably wouldn’t even be here right now. People make judgements 100′s of times a day. But now some people want to break down all those morals putting us in grave danger for extinction. You see God is NOT mocked…whatever a man sows, he WILL reap. So some would want to abolish God from society. Now why would people want to erase Christians and squash Christianity?? Christians have done more good for society than any other group on the planet. Really ask yourself why you are so mad about Christianity???
Here is one example of a Christian organization who has helped feed, clothe, and minister to millions of children all over the globe. Can you imagine being a child whose parents died of aids in a 3rd world country with little food or shelter to survive? Well millions and millions are being cared for every day in Jesus name…(I know, really awful ha?)
http://www.compassion.com/about/Offices.htm
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 6:01pm[Only an idiot would consider our rights to come from men. No surprise that you idiots worship humanity.]
Report Post »Then men need not do a thing. Let your god write his own damn constitution.
Those speaking for god are speaking as god. There has never been evidence to the contrary.
The only thing I worship is a few good looking women. But if you think humanity (kindness, benevolence, sympathy, tenderness, goodwill) is a bad thing then perhaps you shouldn’t worship Jesus Christ. Maybe you should take up Islam. It better suits your radical hatred.
Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 6:44pmGirlnurse is delusional, bigoted, lying religious bully and it shows with every rant she spews here. She is a hateful miserable religious nutter and a waste of time to have intercourse with (intellectual I mean but I’m certain it would apply across the board at any rate.)
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:27amThe problem with atheists is a complete lack of, or even an acknowledgment of the soul. Not exactly open minded. By their own admission they are unqualified to have an opinion where freedom of religion is concerned. Can’t understand simple language definitions such as of/from, make no law regarding etc.
Report Post »Bob Ingersoll
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:21amArnaud-Amaury, the Abbot of Citeaux, as “Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet.” (”Kill them all. God will know his own.” ) So the Crusaders followed his advice and killed everybody they could find in Beziers. Including the good Catholics of the city.
Report Post »littlefish
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:26amState enforced Religion is un-constitutional . . .even when that religion is atheism . . .
Freedom of expression and religion is not the same as freedom from religion . . .
Atheists are so weak on their own convictions that the mere mention of conviction terrifies them
Report Post »and they will always resort to force to enforce others to embrace their fear.
ScienceIsNotEvil
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:45am“they will always resort to force”
Yet the use of terror tactics to get kids to believe is acceptable? That is what the threat of eternal torture is.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:12amThat’s enough to make a cat laugh Littlefish. Thanks for the chuckle, but your comment is hogwash.
Report Post »hi
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:20amI thought they were already organized into a group called “Occupy Wall Street.”
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:35amComplete and total nonsense. Atheists are not communists, violent revolutionaries, anti-capitalists or anti-American. Occupy is not an atheist organization, but made up of a variety of beliefs, such as liberation Christianity and New Age beliefs, both of which are as antithetical to atheism as Christianity.
Now, I am sure you or someone else will have make the asinine response that, “Well, some terrible person at someplace at sometime was atheist, therefore, all atheists are just like them!” Which would be as ridiculous as saying some terrible person, living or past, who claimed Christianity as their faith is representative of all Christians.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:45amBruce – Explain why statistically a majority of atheists tend to be radical left wingers.
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:42am[Explain why statistically a majority of atheists tend to be radical left wingers.]
Report Post »Probably because flaming dumb ass christian radicals completely alienate them instead of co-opting them. You and idiotic redneck stereotypes like you have done more harm to fiscal conservatism than any progressive could ever hope for. People like you would do fiscal conservatism a great favor if you would just keep your trap shut.
Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:44pmPontiac – We’re not going to be quiet just to make you atheists happy. No surprise that you atheists want to eradicate religious freedom and your last sentence proved my point.
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 5:49pmMy last sentence proved what? That you’re a raging idiot that cant keep his trap shut when it would be in his best interest to do so? You’re doing a fantastic job making theist look bad, however don’t associate yourself with fiscal conservatives. Believe in whatever mythology you want but we don’t want you. We’re sick of your kind dragging us down with your fanatical religious dreck.
Report Post »swift_driver
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:05pmIt is true that many in the OWS crowd hold unfavorable views of religion and faith and look at how they conduct themselves.
Report Post »Immorality at its worst.
Pontiac
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 10:19am@swift_driver
Report Post »I hold unfavorable views of BOTH. Wtf is your point?
Carlinpa
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:17amRE“ ideological dominance and equality ” ? How do u have “dominance” AND equality? These are the end times for sure.. I don’t even recognize this world anymore.
RE”Some of the most egregious violations of church state separation are being promoted and passed at the state level, and we absolutely must act to stop it,” They haven’t read any state constitutions have they? such an open minded tolerant group aren’t they?
RE”There are 40 million Americans who don’t identify with any religion” That may be true but that does NOT mean their atheist whack jobs.
We know what happens when atheist get into power, the French revolution over 600,000 people raped, butchered and murdered all within 2 years. All in the name of “reason” reason of insanity I say.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:14amWrong. Religion has killed and ruined the lives of more of humanity than any not believing in it ever has. Face it.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:38amWe know what happens when the religious are allowed unrestrained power. Read the history of Europe from the Fall of Rome to the Enlightenment.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:38amAnonymouse – Apparently you‘ve never studied history before or else you’d know that your comment isn’t true.
Communism, an atheist-based ideology, has killed more people than any religion has.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:44amCARLINPA — can you tell us what this quote refers to?
“It was impossible to look upon the vast numbers of the slain without horror; everywhere lay fragments of human bodies, and the very ground was covered with the blood of the slain. It was not alone the spectacle of headless bodies and mutilated limbs strewn in all directions that roused the horror of all who looked upon them. Still more dreadful was it to gaze upon the victors themselves, dripping with blood from head to foot, an ominous sight which brought terror to all who met them. It is reported that within the Temple enclosure alone about ten thousand infidels perished.”
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:29amGIT-R-DONE — Communism is not a “atheist based” form of government. They may have been secularists but Communism does not come from atheism.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:46pmBruce – Go tell that to Karl Marx.
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:15amI smell Van Jones???
Report Post »DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:07amMay I suggest we all go to the Youtube video and giving her a thumbs down. We need to show the atheists we will not stand for this. Not on our watch!
Report Post »DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:09am*give
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:18amstand for what? organizing? i guess only religious organizations are allowed to do that.
Report Post »neozon
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:36amWhat do you mean by not stand for this? Do you plan on initiating force to prevent these human beings from organizing? And, whose watch is it? Does that watch only belong to your organization?
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:48amHey Divineprovidense, You delusionists have lost. It’s 2012. Hocus pocus religious bullying will no longer be tolerated. Face it. Play with your make believe toys in your make believe world but leave us people of reason out of it.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:03amNot stand for what? We have freedom of belief and freedom of assembly and the right to petition government for redress of grievances.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:50amBruce – We won’t stand for you atheists trying to suppress freedom of religion.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:58amRadical atheists want to organize to suppress religious freedom.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:35amBruce – But you will stand for murdering Christians.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 12:13pmThis organization that is out to protect Americans from religious over-reaching is a great idea. I’ve already donated $750 to their cause. I‘m sure they’ll be very successful. It’s especially important to make sure our government officials obey the law, especially now with the evangelicals, fundies and other extreme religious groups believing silly things like we’re all living in the end times, supernatural Evil is loose on the planet and Jesus will be descending from 10,000+ feet with estimated landing time of “any day now”
Report Post »DoseofReality
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 12:44pmGit-R-Done – you stupid, stupid man. No one, i repeat NO ONE (do you understand those words?) is trying to stop religious freedom. NO ONE ( Again, I hope you understand) wants to stop you from practicing your religion….just dont do it n public, government owned lands. Is your god that insecure that the church on every corner isnt good enough? You people have some sort of crazy persuction complex….you are not being persucted or stopped from practicing chistianity. You are the one that wants to stop others from doing that, you are the one that is so insecure in yourself and your god that you wouldnt be happy unless every single public building had a cross and every single person was a christian. Youre a disgusting human being
Report Post »neozon
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:50amWhoever fights for individual rights is a champion of the constitution. We do not fight for Christian rights, atheist rights, minority rights, or any other kind of rights. Only individual rights! For individual rights protects everyone!
Report Post »kentuckypatriot
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:07amWell said. I just don’t want the atheists to shove their crap down my throat, as I don’t shove my beliefs down their throats.
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:02amKENTUCKY – fair enough. we really don‘t have much crap to ram down anyone’s throat. we have no dogmas to offer the populace or the government. all we want is for our laws and policies to remain as secular as possible. that’s fair, right?
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:01amPhillyatheist – You have Marxism as your dogma that you want to shove down my throat.
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 12:14pmGIT – what is your fascination with Marxism? you remind me of the ****-phobes who turn out to be gay. me think you doth protest too much.
Report Post »BLACKDIAMONDSKIER
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:50am“If men are so wicked as we now see them with religion what would they be if without it? – Benjamin Franklin
Communism and tyranny cannot exist when the people have a firm belief that their liberty is the gift of God. This is why all tyrannical governments must first remove God from the public arena. When God is taken from the minds of men, evil can truly flourish. Every time there has been a push for Communism or Socialism in the world there has been an equivalent push for religion to be suppressed. Make no mistake about it………..Atheism and Liberty mix as well as oil and water. Atheism has it’s place in a country that values freedom and liberty. However, a country that values atheism will loose both liberty and freedom in the end.
Report Post »DamocleAurelius
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:01amWell said!
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:06amPlenty of tyrannical governments also use religion to enforce their will. Such as Iran. Such as Saudi Arabia. Such as every Christian king stretching back to the Dark Ages, believing the murder and rapine of their subjects was the will of God.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:14amReligion and liberty mix like oil and water. Nothing resembling American liberty can be found anywhere in the Bible.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:53amBruce – You atheists have killed more people than any religion has.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:47pmBRUCE P: Ohh you are wrong there! The bible is ALL about freedom! Freedom from death and hell-freedom from evil–freedom from slavery to sin….and much more! The TRUTH is what sets you free my friend!
Jesus said, “You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” (John 8:31-32)
“For the Lord is the Spirit, and wherever
the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.”
2 Corinthians 3:17 (NLT)
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“But the Scriptures declare that we are all prisoners of sin,
so we receive God’s promise of freedom only by believing in Jesus Christ.”
Galatians 3:22 (NLT)
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“For you have been called to live in freedom, my brothers and sisters.
Report Post »But don’t use your freedom to satisfy your sinful nature. Instead, use your freedom to serve one another in love.”
Galatians 5:13
Rayblue
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:12amMadeline O’Hair would be rising from her multiple graves in celebration.
Report Post »Like the murderer befriending, radical zombie that she was. And the current gaggle of extremists are. But she can’t because she chose the left hand path.
ScienceIsNotEvil
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:38amYou sure get upset at the idea that you won’t be able to force others to pay for your religion anymore. Sounds rather liberal if you ask me.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:05amEnd the tax deductions for religious organizations. Enough already with that nonsense.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:52amAnonymouse is showing that he wants to suppress freedom of religion. Why don’t these radical atheists ever whine about removing tax exempt status from Media Matters, Planned Parenthood, PETA, private universities or other left wing non-profit organizations?
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:46pmAnonymouse – No wonder you’re such a violent psychopath. You’re threatening me with violence just b/c I’m sticking up for my religious freedom.
Report Post »9111315
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:11amNo problem. Sounds like a great organization.
Just remember, don’t tread on my first Amendment Rights. Don’t make me start counting!
Report Post »layla
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:10amcommunism and religion don’t mix
Report Post »Sol Invictus
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:18amUnless you’re living in a monastery.
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:06amGo ahead. Stick a needle in the eye and wake the sleeping Giant!
Report Post »EP46
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:54amSocialism is FORCED upon people….Socialism evolves into Communism. Why would people be WILLING to give up their GOD GIVEN RIGHTS to ‘life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” to become slaves of the State …to live in a totalitarian country ? Without America there is no Freedom…..without God there is no America.
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:07am“Without America there is no Freedom…..without God there is no America.”
where do you people come up with this stuff? is there some kind of circular reasoning handbook that they give you?
i’m pretty sure that there can be an America without God. He can live in your hearts and minds if you like, but whether or not He exists or is acknowledged by our government is not fundamental to our success as a Nation. remember the whole Melting Pot thing? people from all sorts of ethnic and religious backgrounds have been welcomed in America since our beginning. including non-believers. it seems as though many people have forgotten this.
Report Post »bbillschnee
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:38amPhillyatheist, Read “The Harbingers” you dumb idiot!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:52amBBILL – i think i’ll pass on a book that states that 9/11 was foretold in the Bible. i hope you didn’t use up your last few precious brain cells digesting that garbage.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:17amPhillyatheist, these religious believers are dangerous. Most of them believe, like their leader Glenn Beck, that they are living in the Biblical end times and that they’ll see “THE ARM OF GOD” in their lifetimes. They are almost as dangerous as the Islam followers. Protecting our freedom via these secular organizations is a good thing. These delusional religious nutters need some pushback.
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:31amMOUSE – i’m aware. it’s so incredibly sad that people believe this End of Days thing. it’s certainly not impossible that we could have civil unrest in America, but my guess it would stem from the Tea Party Patriots (who own lots of weapons) as opposed to OWS or from a secular movement. still, civil unrest isn’t End Times, and those awaiting the Rapture will be waiting until the day they die, as will their offspring, and their offspring’s offspring, etc etc etc. #fcrazylunatics
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:46amPhilly, the Tea Party people may own guns, but they’re not the type to start shooting things up. In fact, as a group, they’re level-headed, older citizens who are simply fed up with big government. They’re also unhappy with seeing America they were raised in fading away. The people that concern me are the Evangelicals and the fundies who think they are the last generation before they’re whisked away to heaven. That kind of delusional thinking gives license to all kinds of extreme behavior. Beck fans those the flames to make himself rich.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:55amYo Philly:
Here’s some stuff for you … freedom is the right to do what is right, and true freedom is found in Christ. The further we get from Him (sinful) the more the government will need/does pass laws to “maintain” order. I know this truth does not suit you’re beliefs; it doesn’t suit mine either for that matter … it is simply what happens and IS happening. The more we want freedom from Christ, the more bound up we become. So, the “idea” of America cannot exist without God at the helm, and our founding fathers attest to this by their own statements
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:06amYo Mouse:
My dog starts barking and getting a little excited …I see, I hear, I smell nothing … but outside 50′ away from the house is a cat ……………>
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:08am“true freedom is found in Christ.”
here’s a fun exercise: replace the word “Christ” with “Muhammad”. that‘s how over a quarter of the world’s population feels. they feel every bit as strongly as you do. modern Christianity and modern Islam have a lot more in common that most Christians would care to admit. i see zero difference between the fundies of either religion.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:18am4truth2all, yeah, I gotta change my forum name back to “beckisnuts” – thanks for the reminder.
4truth2all
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:00amYo Philly:
If you don’t “SEE” the difference then you are COMPLETELY blind. However, little do you know that what you said is actually part of the agenda/purpose of the “system”. ….that being to call out those that follow the Koran and what it say’s, and those that follow the bible and what it say’s. The “terrorists” are being used get to the “christians”. You‘res and Anoymouse’s responces indicate that it’s working … sad you don’t see it.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:02amPhillyatheist – You atheists have killed more people than any religion has.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:02amYo Mouse:
Sorry .. but what does what said have to do with Beck being nuts?
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:47am“Greater is HE WHO IS within me than he who is in the world.”
“If the world hates you, know that it hated Me before it hated you; If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you…But all these things they will do to you for My name’s sake, because they do not know Him who sent Me…”
“JESUS IS COUNTING ON US!” De Colores~~~
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:49amMore brain washing words of nonsense. Pretty sad.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:55amAnonymouse – And you atheists don’t try to brainwash people into following your Marxist dogma? LOL
Report Post »Sol Invictus
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:57am@GIT
Report Post »All Marxists are atheists, therefore all atheists are marxist? Can you detect a flaw in your logic? Anyway, I‘m an agnostic and if people were honest they’d agree that we were the majority – if anyone claims to have all the answers they didn’t understand the question.
Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:43pmSol – Statistically atheists are more likely to be left wingers than religious people.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:53pmAmen GRANDMA! God is opening the hearts of unbelievers all over the globe right now. He is showing Christians things never seen before. We are living in awesome times.
So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. Matt. 24:44
His Word will not Return Void or Empty. So we can count on His Word. 2 Timothy 2:15
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:37pmJesus is not returning. You’ll see that for yourselves. When you do, tell all the young people that all the religious crap you fed them should be disregarded and discarded. At least you won’t die feeling guilty about lying to children.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:44amThe aim of these atheist organizations is not the separation of church and state, that is a ruse.
The true aim of these atheist organizations is the separation of America from God.
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:56amreally, does their existence make you less likely to believe in God? is your faith really that fragile? somehow i don’t think that you can force Americans to give up their beliefs. you’re tilting at windmills.
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:04amand to attain power for the anti-Christ…….I have read in the hostories how Christainis would NEVER have stood for stuff like this!!! Where is our “King David” moment?
Report Post »Trance
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:07amNot true. Separating the church from the state is the goal every time in every court case. The reason that Atheists win in court is because they are right on the constitution. The courts cannot rule any other way than they have been, and the reasons have been very eloquently explained on these forums. Refusing to understand is going to leave many people who read these forums very upset in the coming years as the courts continue to uphold the constitution.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:17amMorning, MOM~~~
Report Post »And other BLAZERS…. Don’t you suspect CHRISTIAN AMERICANS are reading and studying our BIBLES more than ever before and in greater numbers? And, that we are speaking with and listening more closely to our HEAVENLY FATHER than in decades, or perhaps since our inception?
GOD WILL ACT FOR HIS KIDS. Keeping our eyes on the author and finisher of our faith….
GOD BLESS YOU each and all this day that HE HAS MADE just for us. In JESUS’ name, amen.
ScienceIsNotEvil
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:39amActually about all they want if for religious people to stop forcing tax payers to pay for their religious displays.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:48amGood Morning Kick………..You bet, Christians are stronger in faith now more than ever. I know I am. I am seeing things clearer than ever before. Jesus is opening hearts and opening eyes all over the world and that is why Satan is working overtime claiming as many as he can before our Lord comes back.
Report Post »TheGrtDcptn
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:54amScienceIsNotEvil wrote…
‘Actually about all they want if for religious people to stop forcing tax payers to pay for their religious displays’.
And what about the taxpayers who don’t want to be forced to pay for irresponsible women getting abortion(s)…?!?
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:16amwhat about tax payers who don’t want to subsidize your Religion? what about tax payers who don’t want to pay for Viagra? what about tax payers who don’t want to fund useless wars?
and taxpayers don’t pay for abortions. it’s against the law.
Report Post »Bob Ingersoll
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:40amArnaud-Amaury, the Abbot of Citeaux, as “Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet.” (”Kill them all. God will know his own.” ) So the Crusaders followed his advice and killed everybody they could find in Beziers, including the “good Catholics”.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:57amPhillyatheist – Spoken like a true Marxist. And our taxpayer money is already funding your precious war on poverty yet you whine about taxpayer money being spent on wars.
Report Post »TheGrtDcptn
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:21am‘and taxpayers don’t pay for abortions. it’s against the law.’
A blatant lie, and I quote…”Nothing in federal law prohibits individual states from using their own tax dollars to pay for elective abortions or to pay into health plans that cover elective abortions. Currently, 17 states pay for elective abortions.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704107204574472921151318650.html
http://www.aclu.org/reproductive-freedom/public-funding-abortion
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:40am“continue their campaign for ideological dominance and equality”
dominance and equality? which is it.
look, i think all we are looking for is a level playing field. as currently configured, Atheists have no voice to counter the Religious fanaticism that is prevalent in today’s US. this is a good thing and i for one will whole heartedly support the Secular Coalition for America. secularism should be the default position for a government that represents people of a multitude of religious faiths.
Report Post »Trance
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:11amMy guess is that equality means in general, such as equal justice, or the equality that would be obtained when the force of government is no longer giving preference to one religion. Once that equality is obtained, there can be an ideological dominance simply through rational discussion.
Report Post »EP46
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:35am“can continue their campaign for ideological dominance and equality ”……oops oxymoron
Report Post »‘dominance and equality’ ????
cassandra
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:34amBaall would be so proud of his followers
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:50amYou nailed it!
Report Post »chameleonx
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:58amWhat are you talking about? Atheist do not believe in God, therefore do not worship a deity. Atheism means “without theist” which means disbelief in God. Atheist do not believe in Baal anymore than they believe in Jesus or Thor.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:04amFollowing up on the question to you by chameleonx about Atheists not believing in Baal…. the BIBLE is quite clear that we are either “for GOD” or “against GOD”. There is no “middle ground” (remember HE said HE would rather that we be hot or cold than lukewarm, for if we are lukewarm, HE WILL vomit us out of HIS mouth).
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:12amCASSANDRA and KICKAGRANDMA — Ba’al is not the name of a god. It is an ancient Semitic word for “Lord,” used for deities and mortal-rulers alike. The ancient Israelites used the word “Ba’al” in referring to the god of the Bible. So you two are, in fact, Ba’al worshipers.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:02amAtheists are just useful idiots. They want people to worship the government.
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 12:11pm[Atheists are just useful idiots. They want people to worship the government.]
Report Post »It is “you” trying to turn government into a place of worship.
girlnurse
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:41pmAnonymouse: I believe that. That is what the bible says:
“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms”.
Ephesians 6:12
There is good and evil here in this world. Have you not read the news? What do you think of a man who eats another alive mans face off and growls with his bloody face?
What do you think of babies being burned and ripped out of their mothers womb day in and day out?
I could go on of course….
Yes there is a heavenly “realm” and there are dark forces all around us…if you are not for God, you’re against him. Whether you know it or not, you are being used. Have you ever had a loved one die? Where are they now? Did they cease to exsist? You go ahead and believe that if you want and I will fight to the death for you to have a right to your belief. But why can’t we have our belief??
Report Post »Okay, are you ready? Be totally HONEST here…It’s because you want to continue in your sin without anyone saying it is sin, right? If you are honest, you know Im right. Isn’t it funny how the bible is over 2000 years old and the problems are the same today: sin, rebellion, and men wanting all the power and glory..on and on it goes..
Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:47pmPontiac – Then explain why atheists want all of these welfare programs to exist.
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 6:47pm[Then explain why atheists want all of these welfare programs to exist.]
Considering the vast majority in America are and have always been christians & theist, why did you vote them into existence in the first place?
Checkmate.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 6:50pmGirlnurse, you are superstitious and delusional. Bad things will always happen. That proves nothing, especially that evil spirits exist. You’re sounding more and more ridiculous. You must have been brought up by some real nutters. I don‘t believe in the supernatural because science doesn’t support the nonsense written by ancient ignorant men who thought spirits made their food go bad and the earth was flat. That’s all the reason anyone needs to disregard religion and the supernatural. Your paranoid theories are wrong. You’re a very disturbed person. Get some medical attention before you hurt someone.
Report Post »Ron Staiger
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:30amOrganization should be encouraged for all of these fringe groups like the occupiers, the anarchists, the communists, and the jihadists to make identification, isolation, internment and if necessary executioin much easier. Nice to have them all on videotape for future use!
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:41amRon, you’re a sicko. executing those who differ from your beliefs, really? and you think Atheists are radical. what would Jesus do?
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:18amSo much for “God-given” rights…
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:42amAtheists brought this on themselves by trying to suppress religious freedom.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:48amRonStagger, your mind is ill. What kind of a commie statement is that to make? “Round ‘em up” huh? You‘re a great example of the kind of nutter that Beck attracts and that’s why he is dangerous. Got your tickets for the big “Restoring Love” hogwash fest this summer?
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:03amAnonymouse – You atheists don‘t have any love for anybody else who’s different from you. That’s why you support silencing freedom of religion.
Report Post »davecorkery
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:31pmOK, Ron, time for your meds, little guy. Come on out off your mom’s basement, put down that little book with the talking snake and multiplying loaves, and get some fresh air! Didn’t your imaginary friend say to NOT execute anyone? Troll.
Report Post »ScienceIsNotEvil
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:33pmGit-R-Done,
Why do you want the government to force others to pay for your religion?
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:48pmScience – Why do you want the government to force others to pay for your favorite welfare programs? Why do you get to determine what is and isn’t allowed to be displayed on government property?
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