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Atheist Responds to ‘Christmas’ Tree: Gov. Walker‘s a ’Teabagger…Wearing Religion on His Sleeves’

Wisconsin Christmas Tree Response Comes From Freedom From Religion Foundation | Annie Laurie Gaylor

Annie Laurie Gaylor, co-president of the Freedom From Religion Foundation

Annie Laurie Gaylor, co-president of the atheist group Freedom From Religion Foundation, has some strong words for Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker.

Wednesday, I caught up with Gaylor to discuss the lawmaker’s recent decision to change the official reference to the state capitol’s “holiday tree” back to a “Christmas tree.” Gaylor didn’t hold back on her opinions about the governor or on his decision to make the name change.

During our exchange, she dismissed Walker as “…a Teabagger governor wearing religion on his sleeves“ and claimed that his recent decision is rooted in an effort to appeal to ”religious right” voters. Furthermore, she made it clear that she believes the governor is trampling on the rights of non-believing citizens.

When I asked the famed atheist leader why she opposes calling the decorated tree what many claim it is — a Christmas tree — she said, “Because it’s not inclusive.”

Wisconsin Christmas Tree Response Comes From Freedom From Religion Foundation | Annie Laurie Gaylor

Wisconsin's capitol rotunda Christmas tree (LifeSiteNews.com)

See, the current argument, which Gaylor is happy to engage in, surrounds whether it is appropriate for the government to have the holiday symbol on public land. This, she claims, is absolutely unacceptable. In her view, such a presence indicates that the government is favoring or endorsing one faith over another.

After explaining to Gaylor that more than 90 percent of Americans celebrate Christmas and that not all of them are Christians, I asked if that fact, at all, changes her mind on the matter. She abruptly cut me off, saying, “Where did you get that statistic?,” as she was prepared and ready to refute my insinuation that the vast majority of Americans do, indeed, celebrate the holiday.

To answer her question (something I decided not to do during the interview), Gallup reported the following back in December 2010: “Ninety-five percent of Americans celebrate Christmas, and of these, 51% describe the holiday as “strongly religious” for them, continuing an upward trend seen since 1989.” So, while not all celebrating Americans consider the holiday’s religious significance, by far the vast majority of the nation observes the federal holiday.

Also, back in 2004, Fox News reported that 87 percent of the nation supported nativity scenes on public property. Clearly, the vast majority of the nation isn’t opposed to public displays of Christmas-related imagery.

Rather than question her based on this research, I decided to go with a more conservative number, as she proceeded to say that 24 percent of the nation does not identify with the Christian faith. So, I decided to go with 76 percent.

Wisconsin Christmas Tree Response Comes From Freedom From Religion Foundation | Annie Laurie Gaylor“Considering the fact that 76 percent — at least — of the nation is ‘Christian’ and likely celebrates Christmas, would you consider it unfair or a slap in the face to the majority to not allow a Christmas tree in the state capitol?”

“Where to begin with this question,” she said. “Well, it’s not a slap in the face… Are you familiar with the Bill of Rights? … It would by tyranny if the government came in and said you can’t put up a Christmas tree.” Here, obviously, Gaylor was referring to the notion that the government shouldn’t prevent private individuals from putting Christmas trees up — a notion that individuals on all sides of the argument would naturally agree with.

“We would never sue over a tree,” she continued. “But I have been told ever since we started [the FFRF] that when [some people] go into the capitol, they feel like it’s not their capitol.”

Gaylor went on to highlight the fact that the group has received many complaints from non-Christians and atheists following the annual tree-lighting ceremony. These participants apparently feel pressured and offended by the Christians themes present in the songs that are performed at the event. “They are Americans too – they’re citizens of the state too,” she said.

“It is a well-settled principle of law that the government shouldn’t engage – Christmas means ‘Christ’ mas – it celebrates the [Christian savior],” she continued. She does make a point in stating that the holiday is rooted in Christian tradition. That, of course, is undeniable. But to claim that this matter is settled is probably a reach, especially considering the ongoing debates that communities across America have every year around this same time.

In an ideal world, Gaylor says that there should be no Christmas trees, Menorahs or other religious symbols on government property. In this case, she maintained that “the government should not be using the word Christmas.”

But since the her group, which is infamous for taking opponents to court over alleged church-state violations, won’t be suing, the FFRF plans to ensure that their “religious” symbol is displayed as well. They plan to put up their “solstice sign” in the capitol, which will apparently appear along with other symbols that represent faiths outside of the Christian realm.

Here’s an image of the “solstice sign” (pay attention to the anti-God, anti-faith wording):

Wisconsin Christmas Tree Response Comes From Freedom From Religion Foundation | Annie Laurie Gaylor

Image Credit: Friendly Atheist

Toward the end of our interview, Gaylor made the curious statement, “I guess we’ll have a Christmas tree and lots of guns.“ ”Guns?,” I asked. “Guns can now be taken into capitol. Maybe they’ll decorate the tree with guns,” she quipped. We both laughed. Gaylor was referring to a new regulation that will allow concealed guns inside of the Wisconsin state capitol.

When asked to comment on Gaylor’s statements, Walker’s press secretary, Cullen Werwie, sent a very short response: “It’s being called what it is, a Christmas tree.”

This may be one battle that the FFRF doesn’t win.

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  • Snafu777
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:51pm

    Guns, eh? Spent bullet casings would be inexpensive enough, and shiny too! ;P

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    • 4GODUSAANDISRAEL
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:01pm

      I have 3 freezer bags filled with nickle plated shells and brass shells, I actually put up a tree 2 years ago decorated with the cases, deer antlers, and flannel ribbon for my redneck christmas tree, it was actually a really gorgeous tree! the lights shining off of the shells were actually really pretty! Cracked my family up too (i work for an ammunition manufacturer, so we had plenty of “bad” cases for me to take home…I love my job!)

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    • imreddog
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:13pm

      For all of the Athiests and those who call themselves Christians….
      GOD TELLS THE CHRISTIANS TO NOT HAVE A CHRISTMASS TREE! Oh yeah, when did he say that? Well, if you will open your KJV Bible to Jeremiah 10 you can read it.
      Jer 10:2-4
      2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
      3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
      4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
      (KJV)
      I doubt that there will be anyone that will stop having a Christmas tree even after reading these scriptures… but you can‘t tell God that you didn’t know about it…. you know, like the homosexuals who ignore God’s word…. or, those who refuse to keep the Sabbath (Saturday) even though it will cost them their salvation. Just wanted you to know.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:31pm

      I really feel sorry for militant atheists..there’s just something “off” about them.

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    • Snafu777
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:41pm

      Imreddog~
      That’s a bit out of context. Jeremiah was talking about the crafting of an idol, not memorializing something, especially the birth of Christ. Memorials were built several times in the OT for several occasions.

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    • 4GODUSAANDISRAEL
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:42pm

      dude, it’s a tree. and as far back as I can remember (I’m Lutheran) the story goes, one night before Christmas, Martin Luther was walking through the forest and looked up to see the stars shining through the tree branches. It was so beautiful, that he went home and told his children that it reminded him of Jesus, who left the stars of heaven to come to earth at Christmas, and to “capture” that image that Martin Luther had seen, Lutheran’s started having Christmas trees in their home to remind themselves of Jesus. I don’t think God will hold it against me for celebrating that thought and what it means to me and how it helps me focus on Jesus during the christmas season.

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    • ishka4me
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 10:39pm

      So now they are mad that Governor walker calls a Christmas tree a Christmas tree? I bet if you have teachers unions work on Christmas they will change their tunes. No holiday pay, no days off.

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    • Uranium Wedge
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 11:01pm

      Freedom OF religion.
      Atheism is a religion.
      And don’t forget the religion of Global Warming.

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    • AOL_REFUGEE
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 11:06pm

      I find it immensely amusing that atheists are afraid of something as simple as a Christmas tree.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 11:06pm

      what holiday, exactly, is the tree for?

      “Guns can now be taken into capitol. Maybe they’ll decorate the tree with guns,”
      maybe we will get some gun ornaments, thank you kindly for the suggestion.

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    • imreddog
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 11:12pm

      I have never been able to understand why anyone would risk eternal life with God for a Christmas tree or for anything else for that matter.
      I Jn 2:15-16
      15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
      16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
      Mark 7:7
      7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
      You say that you love God, but you want a Christmas Tree… then you should be prepared to pay the price, and it is unbelievably expensive… it will cost you your salvation. The same can be said for not keeping the Sabbath. When you hear these words it will be too late.
      Matt 7:21-23
      21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
      22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
      23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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    • Bluzie
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 11:24pm

      This woman in a foot in her mouth clown. Watch her get owned by David Barton.

      Parts 1 and 2.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKUqoboiSWQ
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV_fHE_VuCU

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    • uzi4u2
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 11:28pm

      “Because it’s not inclusive.”…..This is the reason she gave for the tree NOT to be there. So if it had all the other religions noted, it would be ok? I thought that she was an atheist, and they don’t want ANY religion? Goofy, beeotch, make up your mind. I hope Santa brings her a lump of coal, and drops it on her head…Ho..Ho..Ho

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    • Tim Law
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 12:12am

      Famed atheist leader? Never even heard of her till now. Wow why would any one want to be a famed atheist? So now you can be famous for not believing in GOD. Yep I’m starting to think the end may be coming sooner than we think. But then again that would be the “Good News.” May the Good LORD bless even a famous atheist.
      And may the Good LORD truly Bless the Gov. for his faith and humble service.

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    • Ded-Bred
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 12:54am

      Why do we continue seeing these ridiculous “separate state and religion”– we have been allowing these imbeciles to misquote and just make up their very own slogans and pretend the words come from the Constistution. How asinine are these atheist fools? If they desire an eternity in hell, so be it. Please, though, please don’t travel with them. Discover truth, and see them for the LIARS they are.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 4:01am

      And atheists are the filthy tripe remnants of a fecal sewage drain.

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    • Blazedout
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 8:40am

      People of Wisconsin should ALL Email Laurie Gaylor, co-president of the atheist group Freedom From Religion Foundation, with their request for the trees name. Let the majority decide, or at least give her a lot of mail to read. This would confirm how popular her opinion truly is. (All on one day would be nice.)

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    • mikem1969
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 8:56am

      Here is what I don’t get, since they don’t believe in any God, why are they so affraid of Christians?

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 9:19am

      This Christmas play in south park reminds of what the atheist and progressives are doing to Christmas and our society at large
      http://www.videosurf.com/video/south-park-fa-la-la-your-la-1250424875

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    • jado1981
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 10:20am

      She must not be “on” today, she left out the mother of all slams. Did she forget that we are all racist too?

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    • jado1981
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 10:34am

      I just went to their website and left a kind message for this Princess Annie. I encourage everyone to do so, and then maybe make a phone call. After I left my message at their website, I got this from the webpage:

      “Members of the press: Please phone the FFRF office: 608-256-8900 (9-5 CST) to speak directly with Foundation Co-Presidents Annie Laurie Gaylor and Dan Barker or other staff, especially if you are on a deadline.”

      Feel free to give them a call, we are all members of the press, just a much much much smaller press.

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    • John 336
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 10:50am

      IMREDDOG … with all due respect your reference to Jeremiah 10 in the KJV of the Bible and putting up Christmas trees is not in the proper context. The prophet Jeremiah was sent to pronounce to Israel the coming judgment (via them being conquered by Babylon) of God for their idolatry. Part of their idolatry was them making idols from wood. The basic context is that they were making idols of wood (obviously from a tree) and bowing down to those idols in worship. For most Christians (and people) a Christmas tree is nothing more than a decoration. Now if a Christian bows down to their Christmas tree and worships it then Jer. 10 could certainly be applied. Otherwise, it is simply a decoration. If it goes against your Christian principles and conviction to put up a Christmas tree then you shouldn’t. But in my home the tree is a decoration … not an idol and based upon the teaching of God’s Word and the convictions of my own heart I can comfortably rest in my decision that there is absolutely nothing wrong with my family putting up a Christmas tree.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 2:08pm

      all agencies associated with the government including schools and colleges that accept government tuition student should stay open through the Christmas Holidays and when the kids and parents complain tell them to look up their local atheist and thank them.
      How’s this sound
      Sorry Billy we’re have school Christmas day because the atheist will sue us if we close for a religious holiday. Only religious children can take the day off because the government can prohibit thier freedom of religion. However all Teachers must report in or face termination for not seperating church and state….LOL

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    • keng52
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 3:34pm

      As the mourners walked by her casket , all that could be said was that she tried to make this earth a worse place than she found it. She spread her mental disease at every oppurtunity. When the Christians celebrated Christmas , she belched hate and evil shone in her eyes. She wanted no celebration because she was not included. She expressed joy, when she heard of sexual deviates, stealing children and molesting them. A home invasion where old people were sodemized and killed made her squeal with delight. But when someone pulled their gun and put a bullet between the eyes of a crazed car jacking activist she would bleed blood from her eyes in anger. Yet here she lays. Hair all curled , face clean. Her most expensive gown. All pink with sparkles. All dressed up and nowhere to go. When the roll is called up yonder she will again not be included.

      that she was not included

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    • scarebear83
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 4:30pm

      Let me get this straight, they’d be ok by calling it a “holiday tree” but if you use the word “Christmas” it should simply be forbidden regardless that what you call it, it’s still what it is. So would they be willing to call a Menorah a “Holiday Candelabra?” It perplexes me that they are so caught up in the name of something rather than the symbol itself. If they are that upset over a Christmas tree then they need to make their own holiday symbol.

      The plaque also shows their true character. While most people celebrate Christmas as a time of joy and giving (being kind to others) their plaque assumes that they are the only ones who hold the monopoly of being kind to others.

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    • FindOut
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 11:53pm

      Why does The Blaze care about her stupid thoughts?
      What a waste!!!

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    • WeekendAtBernankes
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 11:55am

      I love their sign. Their religion (atheism) is built on a MUCH more unbelievable premise: that something at some time was created from absolutely nothing. “Yeah, makes a lot of sense there bub. Because science proves this happens all the time.” Give me a break!

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    • ME
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 12:35pm

      Looking at this woman, dare I call it that, I am starting to believe the bible may have been wrong, and some people may be close and direct decedents of apes or at least (donkeys).

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    • sickntiredofliberals
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 10:22pm

      to IMREDDOG: In Jeremiah he is talking about cutting the trees out of the forest to shape them into an image, deck it with silver and gold, as an IDOL. They did not have Christmas trees in that time period so how he Jeremiah be talking about Christmas trees. Again, make sure you do some more study before speaking. !!!!!

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  • Sister_Mary
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:51pm

    anyone asked the cold hearted woman WHAT LAW? .. WHAT LAW DID HE PASS !!!!!

    “Congress shall make NO LAW …..”

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    • byehlik
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:20pm

      These pagans are just part of the liberal army of useful fools. The socialist liberal Marxist left is leading them to their deaths. Just saying….

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:33pm

      Of course a mindless berckerhead, fails to read the 14th Amendment which applies the bill of rights to the states or the 100 years of Supreme Court opinions that have applied the 1st Amendment to nearly any actions taken by a government official from local teacher up to president.

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    • RabidPatriot
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:47pm

      If he is a ********* then she must be the teabagee

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    • 4GODUSAANDISRAEL
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:52pm

      Oh goody, Encinom, the hater of all things that are not him, has crawled out from his bed in his mother’s basement to bless us with his hatefilled intolerance of those who are not him, Oh thank you holy encinom for we are not worthy of your hatefull intelligence, we are but dust compared to you, please bless us by smiting us with your holy hand grenade in thy mercy. to all things hateful, intolerant, liberal, communist, and marxist, we do beseach the oh great encinom to continue blessingly hate us this day. In Mao’s name, amen

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    • MIBUGNU2
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:58pm

      This ********* wishes you Miz.Annie Gaylor a Very Merry Christmas !!

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    • Duff
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 7:04pm

      She’s in good company with stalin, hitler, mao, etc…

      It’s quite apparent that lunatics think alike.

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    • motonutt
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 7:07pm

      Refer to the other story on The Blaze today about how liberal democrates don‘t believe and don’t attend church…..this ties right in doesn’t it. One day she will know the truth.

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    • joe1234
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 7:11pm

      “applied the 1st Amendment to nearly any actions taken by a government official from local teacher up to president.”

      uh hate to tell you useful idiot, the first amendment guarantees freedom OF religion, not FROM religion…

      you seem to revel in stupidity.

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    • ACLUHater
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 7:26pm

      So it’s ok to have a holiday tree, as long as you don’t mention the name of the holiday?

      More proof that liberalism is a mental disorder!

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    • Baron_Doom
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 7:27pm

      No one will ever be free from religion because each and every person alive has their own religion.

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    • Cameraman
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 7:34pm

      Also..she said it was against the Rights of the Atheists etc..did our rights come not from man, but from God? If they don”t Believe in God, how could they even have any Rights? She is Confused! Also a hater and Marxist Tool…

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 7:36pm

      Oh Christmas tree, oh Christmas tree, with faithful leaves unchanging Oh Christmas tree, oh Christmas tree, with faithful leaves unchanging Not only green, in summer’s heat, but also winter’s snow and sleet Oh Christmas tree, oh Christmas tree, with faithful leaves unchanging
      Oh Christmas tree, oh Christmas tree, of all the trees most lovely Oh Christmas tree, oh Christmas tree, of all the trees most lovely Each year you bring to me delight, gleaming in the Christmas night Oh Christmas tree, oh Christmas tree, of all the trees most lovely….. LMFAO Go Screw ANNIE THE DOUCHE..

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    • OneofMany
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 7:38pm

      @4GODUSAANDISRAEL My sentiments exactly.. LOL… when they don’t have Jesus, they are a vacuum and empty and void. All they have is the residual image of God, so they have intellect, but it is perverted and blind so you get people like @enicom who can come up with nothing about how and why we are here.

      Oh he might spout some defeated Darwinian babble he heard or read somewhere, but he surely has never investigated for himself. He is empty and void and can only destroy, never build up.

      May God take pity on his lost soul. There is hope for you @enicom even though you reject it, God is powerful and can save you yet.

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    • Al J Zira
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 7:58pm

      @encinom: So you’re saying that the 14th amendment privied for equal protection from God? What’s your problem? Enlighten me oh wise one. Because I can tell you that neither the Constitution or the Bill of Rights provides for Freedom FROM Religion.

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    • SerikFox
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 8:30pm

      Enicom, what are you even talking about? Tell me where you‘re getting the idea that it’s a privilege or immunity to not have a state say “Christmas Tree” or have a Christmas tree up. Separation of church and state isn’t even in the constitution. All it says is the government shall make no laws respecting an establishment of religion, or preventing the free exercise of said religion. By that definition even classifying a church as a non-profit organization is unconstitutional. Actually if you counted Christmas as a strictly Christian holiday then the government couldn’t classify it as a federal holiday. Since more than just Christians celebrate Christmas though I think that’s not a real point to start on. You do know that the gov is a citizen right? Preventing him from calling it a Christmas Tree is the part that would be unconstitutional. If it is within his power as governer to say “hey, I want y’all to put a christmas tree there” then you really can’t stop him. If you pass a law to say that the governer holds no power over any decoration in the capital then he couldn’t. Unless it was a federal holiday, in which case it makes sense that the government would celebrate it. The point of free speach is that everyone can say what they want. That doesn’t make it your right to not have to hear the other viewpoint – or see it.

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    • SonOfaCommunist
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 9:03pm

      Atheist eat babies…I’ve seen them do it!

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 9:34pm

      BYLHIK- “These pagans are just part of the liberal army of useful fools. The socialist liberal Marxist left is leading them to their deaths. Just saying….”

      Please don’t confuse “pagans” with atheists. As it is commonly known today (by folks who don’t know any better), the word “pagan” would refer to those who beleive in more than one God (which would not be correct in lumping them into the same group as atheists, as they do not beleive in a God or Gods). As a person who performs rites and rituals to the Gods of my choice, I am not a part of a liberal army, and certainly not a marxist, nationalist, or any kind of socialist. There are folks out here in the real world (who are not Christian) who would defend your right to practice the religion of your choice, and to place a Christmas tree wherever you wish (as long as it’s not in my front yard :) ). Just sayin…

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    • 1proud_Texan
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 9:38pm

      I can never understand why atheists are so offended by something they have no belief in.

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    • Marci
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 9:48pm

      Another moonbat who doesn’t understand separation of church and state—-and if she and others have a problem with Christmas, then don’t celebrate it. To call it a “holiday tree” is b.s. The day is representative of Christ, period. To that end…my husband and I have made a decision not to buy from stores who call their Christmas items “holiday” items. Sick of the pc b.s. and of atheists trying to destroy religion. No one is forcing them to be religious, yet, their religion consists of abolishing all religion.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 11:10pm

      yes, laws against speech, religion or any inalienable right are illegal laws or amendments and do NOT have to be followed. it is Your obligation, Right and Duty to protect your rights from tyranny and initiation of force. the government is not doing that job any longer.

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    • skunk
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 1:31pm

      @1PROUD_TEXAN As an atheist I am not offended by a tree. And I am one of those people that tell people “Merry Christmas”.

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    • SaraD
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 2:21am

      Her name is Annie Gaylor she is the one ( and she won and award for it) that was due partial credit for ending the day of prayer. A ridiculous holiday for a secular nation. I am really impressed with her, she has done a lot to create an environment where people are not pushed to any religon, they can worship whatever they want but it stays out of the publics face. She is a lawyer and married an exevangelist.

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  • whathappenedtomycountry
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:50pm

    This lady needs help, I will pray for her and ALL that think like her.

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    • MIBUGNU2
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:06pm

      This woman is COLD, gotta feel sorry for her Kids if she had any !!
      If not I could understand why……BRRRRRRR !!!

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    • obfuscatenot
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:08pm

      I was just hoping she hadn’t procreated.

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  • showmerancher
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:50pm

    Do you know what offends me? Morons that haven’t a clue what the “establishment” clause of the Constitution means… which when written, ONLY applied to the federal government establishing an “official” religion (i.e. the Church of England).

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    • oopss
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:29pm

      Amen, this man knows what he is talking about ! Shame, no Atheist will get it , because its ALL ABOUT “Christ is Christmas” ! Without Christ , their is nothing !

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:34pm

      What offends me is that idiots like yourself forget about the 14th Amendment which applies the Bill of Rights to the States and the 100 years of Supreme Court rulings tha tback this point up.

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    • EddardStark
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:41pm

      Hey, I hear ya. I can’t get people to realize that the second amendment only applied to people in a “well regulated Militia.”

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    • byehlik
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:43pm

      Atheist’s are trying to replace many religions with theirs. The “Natural World” religion of green, global warming, enviro-nazi, communal BS.Has nothing to do with being offended. Problem with our bill of rights and constitution is that freedom does not mean that you being offended is an infringement on your rights, just move along …….Like I said, part of the useful idiot brigade. When the wheels come off these folks won’t be with us any longer. I say good reddens and folks like these their time is up.

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    • Thewayiseeit
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:47pm

      But that is exactly it,
      They know full well what the constitution says.
      They are pushing public opinion by convincing those that don’t know!
      So Stand Up & fight for what is right & make this battle their worst moment!
      If you stand down while they lie and cheat their way to power,
      you are no better than their worst!

      Merry Christmas Socialists!

      You picked the wrong country to piss off!

      Swing that pendulum hard,
      it returns with a vengeance & I remember something about

      “Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord”!

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    • EddardStark
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:53pm

      @byehlik Did you name yourself after a Herman Cain accuser?

      And also, you’re an idiot. If you mean that she is trying to replace religion with logic and enlightenment, then guilty as charged, but she isn’t talking about a “green” or “enviro-nazi” world. She is talking about the Natural World as governed by the principles of science.

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    • joe1234
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 7:13pm

      ““green” or “enviro-nazi” world. She is talking about the Natural World as governed by the principles of science.”

      oh yeah the ‘principles of science’

      like applied evolution…better known as EUGENICS…yeah we saw that in the gas chambers..

      enviro-nazi….if the jack-boots fit adolf….

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    • EddardStark
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 7:50pm

      Very sensible logic. Oh, hey, wait… my history is somewhat hazy, but I think there was a religious motive to that whole genocide thing? But then again you are probably right, any science is the first step in a slippery slope that ends in genocide. I have seen the error of my ways and will turn to religion, because that type of belief system has NEVER led to genocide. My good Canaanite friend was just telling me about how excited he was when the Hebrews followed their god into his hometown.

      Did you just learn about Eugenics? I’ll give you this lesson for free: It isn’t science.

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    • joe1234
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 8:00pm

      “my history is somewhat hazy, but I think there was a religious motive to that whole genocide thing?”

      yeah you libs are lazy thinkers….

      The Darwin-Hitler connection is no recent discovery. In her classic 1951 work The Origins of Totalitarianism, Hannah Arendt wrote: “Underlying the Nazis’ belief in race laws as the expression of the law of nature in man, is Darwin’s idea of man as the product of a natural development which does not necessarily stop with the present species of human being.”

      The standard biographies of Hitler almost all point to the influence of Darwinism on their subject. In Hitler: A Study in Tyranny, Alan Bullock writes: “The basis of Hitler’s political beliefs was a crude Darwinism.” What Hitler found objectionable about Christianity was its rejection of Darwin’s theory: “Its teaching, he declared, was a rebellion against the natural law of selection by struggle and the survival of the fittest.”

      John Toland’s Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography says this of Hitler’s Second Book published in 1928: “An essential of Hitler’s conclusions in this book was the conviction drawn from Darwin that might makes right.”

      In his biography, Hitler: 1889-1936: Hubris, Ian Kershaw explains that “crude social-Darwinism” gave Hitler “his entire political ‘world-view.’ ” Hitler, like lots of other Europeans and Americans of his day, saw Darwinism as offering a total picture of social reality. This view called “so

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    • joe1234
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 8:03pm

      “Did you just learn about Eugenics? I’ll give you this lesson for free: It isn’t science.”

      I will admit that evolution, which is where eugenics comes from isn’t science, its just a racist atheist fairy tale…but have no doubt, eugenics sprang from the theory of evolution…

      and you racist progessives embraced it wholeheartedly…margaret sanger anyone?? your progressive saint of racist baby killing….

      A direct line runs from Darwin, through the founder of the eugenics movement-Darwin’s cousin, Francis Galton-to the extermination camps of Nazi Europe.” (Brookes, Martin.,”Ripe old age,“ Review of ”Of Flies, Mice and Men,” by Francois Jacob, Harvard University Press, 1999. New Scientist, Vol. 161, No. 2171, 30 January 1999, p.41).

      “‘Social Darwinism’ is often taken to be something extraneous, an ugly concretion added to the pure Darwinian corpus after the event, tarnishing Darwin’s image. But his notebooks make plain that competition, free trade, imperialism, racial extermination, and sexual inequality were written into the equation from the start- ‘Darwinism’ was always intended to explain human society.” (Desmond, Adrian [Science historian, University College, London] & Moore, James [Science historian, The Open University, UK], “Darwin,” [1991], Penguin: London, 1992, reprint, pp.xix).

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    • joe1234
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 8:04pm

      hey eddy, why don‘t you list for me the ’lower races’ your god and savior darwin refers to….

      “The more civilized so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilised races throughout the world.” (Darwin, Charles R. [English naturalist and founder of the modern theory of evolution], “The Life of Charles Darwin”, [1902], Senate: London, 1995, reprint, p.64).

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    • Cesium
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 8:57pm

      Will you pray for me Joe1234? “Atheist, Racist, Fairytale” go get em!

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    • EddardStark
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 11:49pm

      Nice googling there, Joe. Or with the citations and speed with which you posted such a lengthy response, can I assume that you were cut and pasting from somewhere else? I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that the research is actually yours and that you sit around The Blaze waiting to whip out your “big guns” of academia on unsuspecting trolls whenever creationism is mentioned, but I’d much prefer a well informed idiot than most of the other kind on this website.

      First let me apologize, sarcasm doesn’t play very well in text form. My history isn’t hazy at all and for someone soooooo well informed it is amazing that you can draw such disgracefully inaccurate conclusions. Of course Darwinism is at the heart of Eugenics, but Eugenics itself is no more science than “Intelligent Design.” Eugenics was purely a sociological experiment based on racism. A failed progressive, social experiment, much like Prohibition, but it is not at all science.

      Saying that the theory of evolution is racist is remarkable ignorant. That would be like me saying Christianity is the root of all evil in the world because it has routinely been exploited to commit mass murder, rape and enslavement.

      But let’s get back to the issue at hand. Your essential thesis is that the theory of evolution, most notably the writings of Charles Darwin caused the holocaust.

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    • EddardStark
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 11:51pm

      So riddle me this, sage one: Can you honestly say that the progressive, social experiment of Eugenics was more at the heart of the Holocaust than good old fashioned Anti-Semitism? Anti-Semitism was a German tradition you realize. If you can bear to think poorly of your savior and face the violence that he inspired take a look at the Crusades, the Black Death and Martin Luther’s persecutions for particularly heinous examples of Jewish blood running in German streets. The Holocaust was only the last and worst in a long line of pogroms dating back to the 11th Century. I could certainly add in some Freudian history there as well as far as Hitler’s hatred of Jews, but I am sure you would dismiss it.

      Let’s take a look at your evidence here: Alan Bullock seems like a reasonable chap, but his case of Darwinism here is ridiculously overstated. I can only imagine that you found Alan Bullock’s book in a Christian bookstore. If it was Darwin’s theory that brought Hitler into conflict with Christianity and led him down the rabbit hole of the holocaust why didn’t he issue his soldiers the Origin of Species instead of Thus Spake Zarathustra? Darwin was only one of many thinkers that Hitler used to justify both his conquest and his persecution, but cannot hold a candle to Nietzsche, who was top dog in the hierarchy of Hitler’s intellectual development. Hitler had the same criticism of Christianity that Nietzsche did.

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    • EddardStark
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 11:53pm

      Essentially he felt that Christianity was an embodiment of all of the weaknesses of mankind. He saw it as an outgrowth of a brand of Judaism that had entirely lost its balls under the domination of the Roman Empire. Jews under Roman domination had turned suffering into a virtue and Christianity codified misery, poverty and martyrdom into the core of its ethics. Hitler, like Nietszche, hated that aspect of the religion and wanted to inject Christianity with the qualities of Nietzsche’s ubermensch, or overman, that would be nationalistic and warlike with religious fervor. The philosophical underpinnings of racial superiority are much more Nietzsche’s than they were Darwin’s.

      Then you spout out this garbage of Darwin being the force that made Hitler think that might made right? Are you kidding me? That notion predates Darwin by tens of thousands of years. If you want a lesson on “might make’s right” as a philosophical justification for conquest I suggest you check out Thudydides’ account of the Melian Dialogue in which the Athenians lay out that doctrine pretty clearly.

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    • EddardStark
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 11:55pm

      No idea who Ian Kershaw is, but the title of his biography reeks of a Christian/Conservative morality tale. Regardless, his assertion that “crude social-Darwinism” was responsible for Hitler’s “entire” political worldview is ludicrous for some of the reasons I cited above. It certainly was a contributing factor, but then again, it is a massive contributing factor to conservative economic thought today. Should the 1% be helping out the 99%. That seems like a Christian thing to do. Charity was important to Christ was it not? What was it that had a better chance of fitting through the eye of a needle than a rich man getting to heaven? A camel? But no, the rich take what they can get because they are the smartest, strongest and all you 99% are just stupid, lazy, no talent leeches right? Shouldn’t you take a stand against social Darwinism and go occupy Wall Street?

      As far as Sanger is concerned, she is far from a saint. She is a also a product of the eugenics era, but I certainly do give her a great deal of credit for liberating women from the prison of involuntary child rearing and daily applaud her work with planned parenthood.

      Interesting that you used Gould, an atheist Darwinian, to support your case, especially when he would list you amongst the yahoos when he said, “we must combat the few yahoos who exploit the fruits of poor education for ready cash and larger political ends.”

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    • joe1234
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 2:30pm

      I see you have no references of yours there eddy…so you’re a typical uninformed liberal darwiniac troll…no surprise.

      “Of course Darwinism is at the heart of Eugenics, but Eugenics itself is no more science than “Intelligent Design.” ”

      hey gomer, eugenics is just applied evolution, nothing more. I would say get a clue, but its obviously not possible in your case…

      “First let me apologize, sarcasm doesn’t play very well in text form. My history isn’t hazy”

      you don’t have the intelligence for sarcasam…..and your history is a good as your economics, politics, etc…in other words it crap.

      “Saying that the theory of evolution is racist is remarkable ignorant. That would be like me saying Christianity is the root of all evil in the world because it has routinely been exploited to commit mass murder, rape and enslavement”

      I’m sure you do say that…but of course like everything else you say its remarkably ignorant…who freed the slaves?? oh yeah CHRISTIANS..not atheists or muslims….WILBERFORCE anyone??? duhhhh

      as far as racism, Gould admitted the truth, why can’t you??

      “Biological arguments for racism may have been common before 1859, but they increased by orders of magnitude following the acceptance of evolutionary theory.” Stephen Jay Gould,
      1.Stephen Jay Gould, Ontogeny and Phylogeny (Cambridge, Mass: Harvard University Press, 1977), p. 127.

      and Watson displays pure evolutionary racism….straight from the theor

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    • joe1234
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 2:33pm

      here is Watson’s evolutionary racism…

      Watson is credited with discovering the double helix along with Maurice Wilkins and Francis Crick in 1962.
      In the newspaper interview, he said there was no reason to think that races which had grown up in separate geographical locations should have evolved identically. He went on to say that although he hoped everyone was equal, “people who have to deal with black employees find this not true”.

      “But let’s get back to the issue at hand. Your essential thesis is that the theory of evolution, most notably the writings of Charles Darwin caused the holocaust.”

      yeah and I’ve posted the proof, from multiple sources…you are unable to deny except by your own word…and that ain’t good enough…sorry….

      “: Can you honestly say that the progressive, social experiment of Eugenics was more at the heart of the Holocaust than good old fashioned Anti-Semitism? ”

      there’s your key gomer…PROGESSIVE…you addmitted it…and the progressives have a long history of racism and anti-semitism….look at the PROGESSIVE OWS anti-semites…

      oh and hitler’s book was Mein Kampf…MY STRUGGLE…..Darwin’s book title is::

      Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life

      STRUGGLE for life…just a ‘coincidence’ right gomer??? LOL

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    • joe1234
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 2:38pm

      “If you can bear to think poorly of your savior and face the violence that he inspired take a look at the Crusades, the Black Death and Martin Luther’s persecutions for particularly heinous examples of Jewish blood running in German streets. ”

      THANK GOD for the crusades they were a defensive reaction to the MUSLIM INVASION of europe…I’m sure you just forgot about that, right??

      so do you think the black death was christian’s fault too? Luther was anti-semitic..but Hitler hate christians, and put hunreds of thousands of them in concentration camps….but then history isn’t your strong suit is it now?

      “Darwin was only one of many thinkers that Hitler used to justify both his conquest and his persecution, but cannot hold a candle to Nietzsche, who was top dog in the hierarchy of Hitler’s intellectual development. Hitler had the same criticism of Christianity that Nietzsche did.”

      again, your sources for this?? I know you think you’re a legend in your own mind, but you have no sources….

      the eugenics movement didn’t exist before darwin and his cousin galton…

      “. I could certainly add in some Freudian history there as well as far as Hitler’s hatred of Jews, but I am sure you would dismiss it.”

      oh yeah FRAUD, I would dismiss him, as does most of psychology today….LOL I can‘t believe you’d bring him up…

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    • joe1234
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 6:48pm

      “No idea who Ian Kershaw is, but the title of his biography reeks of a Christian/Conservative morality tale”

      oh you mean SIR Ian Kershaw…he’s a nobody compared to YOU…LOL

      Sir Ian Kershaw (born 29 April 1943, Oldham, Lancashire, England) is a British historian of 20th-century Germany whose work has chiefly focused on the period of the Third Reich. He is regarded by many as one of the world’s leading experts on Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany and is particularly noted for his monumental biography of Hitler, which has been called “soberly objective.”[1]

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Kershaw

      but what does he know compared to a legend in their own mind like you??? BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHA oh gomer you’re good for few laughs, thats about it…..

      “But no, the rich take what they can get because they are the smartest, strongest and all you 99% are just stupid, lazy, no talent leeches right? Shouldn’t you take a stand against social Darwinism and go occupy Wall Street?”

      envy is such an UGLY emotion…the rich didn’t get rich at my expense…and if Gates makes a TRILLION dollars, how does that hurt me? not at all….your god, the government getting rich does cost me…

      ‘Interesting that you used Gould, an atheist Darwinian, to support your case, especially when he would list you amongst the yahoos ”

      who cares? his quotes DO support my point…loser.
      all I can say is you must be in a great deal of pain such stupidity has to hurt….

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:46pm

    .
    Scratch my last post. I took another look at that picture, something has been shoved up their. But I’m gonna have to ask for a volunteer to pull it out, cause I ain’t gonna touch that……….

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  • Rick300
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:46pm

    “If we ever forget that we’re one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.” – Ronald Reagan

    “I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandment’s would have looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress.” – Ronald Reagan

    “Our coins bear the words ‘In God We Trust.’ We take the oath of office asking his help in keeping that oath. And we proclaim that we are a Nation under God when we pledge allegiance to the flag. But we can’t mention his name in a public school or even sing religious hymns that are non-denominational. Christmas can be celebrated in the school room with pine trees, tinsel and reindeers but there must be no mention of the Man whose birthday is being celebrated. One wonders how a teacher would answer if a student asked why it was called Christmas.” – Ronald Reagan

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    • EddardStark
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:48pm

      Reagan, another example of a politician pandering to the religious right. I didn’t realize politicians could be canonized for exploiting the so-called Moral Majority.

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    • joe1234
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 7:15pm

      “politicians could be canonized for exploiting the so-called Moral Majority.”

      I didn’t realize anyone could be so stupid…let me guess, you’re a demoKKKrat…uneducate and easily led…

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    • EddardStark
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 7:56pm

      Joe – Give me some legislation, please!! After taking Falwell’s money and votes what did Reagan actually do for the “moral majority”? Please don’t give me that crap about raising your spirits. Give me something that Reagan actually did other than talk a good game and get elected twice.

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    • joe1234
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 8:06pm

      eddy, ever hear of the mexico city policy?

      history isn’t your strong suit, now is it?

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    • joe1234
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 8:08pm

      “Give me something that Reagan actually did other than talk a good game and get elected twice”

      oh and don’t forget that little thing about bringing down the soviet union..I know you libs HATE him for that….

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    • EddardStark
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 12:10am

      The Mexico City Policy? Oh, that was the big strike for Christianity? Oh yeah, how did that affect your life here at home Joe? Did it stop one abortion in the United States? Oh, and that wasn’t legislation it was an executive order. Politics isn’t your strong suit is it Joe, better stick to armchair theology and idiocy.

      And Reagan was the cause for the Soviet Union collapse, huh? Then Clinton caused decade long prosperity with a budget surplus and Bush caused 9-11, Hurricane Katrina and the Housing Crisis. I can see where your analysis of historical causes starts and stops. If it was good – God did it and Reagan was his agent. If it was bad – Satan did it and either science or a liberal was his agent.

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    • EddardStark
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 12:17am

      If the Mexico City Policy was the price for delivering the religious right than you guys are very cheap. Nice job finding something that did not affect anything domestically. Also, I believe I asked for legislation and you gave me an executive order. Politics ain’t your strong suit is it Joe? Stick to arm chair theology and idiocy.

      If Reagan brought down the Soviet Union then Bush caused 9-11, Hurricane Katrina and the Economic crisis. Your mind can grasp much more complicated answers than “God did it and Reagan was his vessel” can it Joe. I suppose if I were as stupid I would embrace something easy like religion.

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    • joe1234
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 2:41pm

      “The Mexico City Policy? Oh, that was the big strike for Christianity? Oh yeah, how did that affect your life here at home Joe? Did it stop one abortion in the United States? Oh, and that wasn’t legislation it was an executive order. Politics isn’t your strong suit is it Joe, better stick to armchair theology and idiocy. ”

      uh gomer, and you richly desever that title…the demoKKKrats controlled the house during reagan’s years…it would have never gotten through, but yes he did what he could…why do you think the first think your imam-in-chief does is repeal it?? hmmmm?? duhhhhhhhh

      ‘And Reagan was the cause for the Soviet Union collapse, huh? “Then Clinton caused decade long prosperity with a budget surplus and Bush caused 9-11, Hurricane Katrina and the Housing Crisis.”

      uh gomer, foreign policy is exclusively the domain of the president, and domestic policy is a combinaiton of the house, senate, judiciary, and president…I thought you‘d know that since you tihnk you’re SO smart….but, like most liberal wackos, you’re not nearly as clever as you think you are…LOL

      ” I can see where your analysis of historical causes starts and stops. If it was good – God did it and Reagan was his agent. If it was bad – Satan did it and either science or a liberal was his agent.”

      I can see you‘re a pawn of satan’s…and you’re too stupid to even realize it…

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  • mtnyooper
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:45pm

    She said “its not inclusive.” You know what Gaylor? Your right. Its not. Neither is Christmas. Christmas is exclusively a Christian holiday, and this is a Christian nation. If you don’t like it, move to China. Your just irritated that the only holiday for you to celebrate is April 1st.
    “The fool hath said in his heart, There is no god.” ~Psalm 14

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    • acovenantinblood
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:57pm

      So we can give Atheists April Fools day as a national holiday and Christians don’t have to celebrate it!

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:10pm

      I agree with you about the Christmas tree. But this is not a Christian nation. It is a nation which contains many who have Chritianity as their religion.

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:36pm

      Sorry we are a SECULAR nations not a taleban like theocracy that “christians” want.

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    • ravendoe
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 7:03pm

      “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” ~ John Adams

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    • Just a guy named Bob
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 7:07pm

      This is NOT a Christian nation. You know who said so? John Adams, one of our founding fathers and the second President of the United States. In fact, the statement was ratified unanimously by Congress in 1797.

      “As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,…” — The beginning of Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli.

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    • joe1234
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 7:12pm

      ““As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,…” — The beginning of Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli.”

      oh good then atheists are responsible for slavery and the treatment of the native americans…

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    • the wireworker
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 11:19pm

      just a guy named bob

      here is a link for you…if your open minded

      http://www.wallbuilders.com/libissuesarticles.asp?id=125

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    • OneofMany
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 2:18am

      @Encinom

      You said, “Sorry we are a SECULAR nations not a taleban like theocracy that Christians want.”

      I guess YOU never read the most of the State Constitution of the United States of America??

      State Constitutions:
      http://www.usconstitution.net/states_god.html

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    • jaylew
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:14pm

      @encinom Taliban has an ‘i” in it….and in your case that same “i” holds two meanings. Your spelling skills of late are genuinely atrocious…better get that checked out….Neovascular Age Related Macular Degeneration is something that even the most talented ministers and faith based healers have a hard time curing…..in fact it takes a miracle….a concept you struggle mightily with. What could be worse than being a completely blind atheist? Other than one of course that can see his mistakes and simply chooses to do nothing about them.

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  • majorsco
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:45pm

    The only thing worse than an Al Qaeda terrorist is a militant Athiest!. At least Al Qaeda is doing someting for a higher cause. The athiests just want to destroy everything in their path that gives people faith and builds morals. They don’t believe that everyone can believe what they want. Athiests force people to their way of life that is full of immorality and destruction.

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    • sooner12
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:39pm

      Your reference that, “At least Al Qaeda is doing something for a higher cause.“ A ”higher cause” connotes that it is Godly. Well, their “cause” is nothing Godly. Their a bunch of heathens and their cause is of satan.

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    • TINKERDAD
      Posted on November 13, 2011 at 1:20am

      And who is the author of immorality and destruction? The Duke of destruction himself….Satan

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  • thefnshow
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:44pm

    the tree is still the same..enjoy it…if they would focus more energy on fixing the problems of the world instead of this moronic cr ap…they would get more accomplished

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  • paleoman
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:44pm

    MERRY CHRISTMAS & GOD BLESS AMERICA as for all the loons out there ya’ll can go straight to Iran. Bet you though I was going to say hell didn’t you. Just goes to show, you aint as smart as you think.

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    • jblovesAmerica
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 7:29pm

      Thank You-and same back at you -family-loved ones.

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    • jaylew
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:19pm

      so I’ll say it paleoman…since I’m the disgusting pig on this forum….every single person who lets a christmas tree bother them can eat some ham salad right out of my a$$. There i said it. Don‘t worry i don’t put pineapple in mine….now get chomping all you christmas tree haters…..

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  • TMunson
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:43pm

    Merry CHRISTmas Ms. Gaylor. :)

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  • Usa1Ing
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:42pm

    What a sad woman.

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  • let us prey
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:42pm

    Ahhh, isn’t she a sweet little pagan. She’d have to sneak up on water to take a bath! Get over it already!

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:49pm

      She is not a pagan as she does not pray to, or give rites to any diety.

      Unless, you are using pagan in it’s original meaning of “villager” or “country bumkin”.

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    • let us prey
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:28pm

      this_ind
      how about :refer to groups who are defined by either their religious beliefs, or in some cases lack thereof.

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 7:21pm

      Pagani (in Latin, where the word pagan derives) is defined as villager, or country dweller. But if you like it be defined as what you posted, then roll with it. It’s all good with me.

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  • South Philly Boy
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:41pm

    Boy they ALL THINK IT’S THEIR TIME.

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  • TheLeftMadeMeRight
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:41pm

    I don’t need God in my life, I don’t need nothing…

    nothing, but this chair, and this thermos, nothing else…

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  • This_Individual
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:40pm

    Marxist/socialists wearing atheism on their sleeves. Why don’t these people just come out and say who they are? Friggin cowards!! This polytheist knows that these fools want to do away with every religion except the one that prays to the state.

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  • Amma K
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:39pm

    This woman seems so angry and unhappy! I pity all those who have nothing in their lives that make them happy.

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  • Justthefactsmam
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:39pm

    It’s Freedom of Religon…not Freedom FROM Religon….get it right

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  • Lover of America
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:39pm

    Well the “I believe in nothing because nothing came from nothing” you got one thing right in you’re comment, “religious right”, I am relgious and I do lean right. You’re a moron.

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  • ALPHA18BRAVO
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:38pm

    Am I the only one that missed Gov. Walker’s proclamation that Christianity is now the “official” religion of Wisconsin? Did he create the “Church of Madison”? Is he forcing people to worship in his religion?

    I don’t see where separation of church and state comes into play here.

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    • Lordchamp
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:41pm

      You are absolutely correct. These people have gotten away with this lie for far too long and are now going to feel the wrath of the awake majority and they will become insignificant.

      He’s wearing his religion on his sleeve? And you‘re not wearing you’re anti-religion on your sleeve?

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    • Lover of America
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:41pm

      You need to get over it too!

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  • SamIamTwo
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:35pm

    Yep full moon wheel effect…SHTF sort of day today.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/nov/9/beijing-blueprint/

    Spiritual warfare.

    The pink ooze under the ground is bubbling up.

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  • hi
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:35pm

    Ms. Gaylor,
    I pray that you find Jesus!

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  • Robert-CA
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:34pm

    Hi Annie Laurie Gaylor Merry Christmas :)

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:43pm

      Well Ms Gaylor..what holiday is the “holiday tree” for again? Ramadan? No…Quaanza? No. Chanukah? No..Jewish people minorahs for that. Hmmm…what holiday could a holiday tree be for? Let me think now….oh yeah…CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!
      I defy atheists like Gaylor…show your integrity..when your children ask for presents at Chrstmas time..deny them. When your work tells you to take the day off..go to work instead. Come on Ms Gaylor really take religion out of your life. I DARE YOU!!!!

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    • INOGAWD
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:57pm

      Miz. Annie Laurie Gaylor, ENJOY, Merry Christmas !!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_3ngTHs6gA

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:33pm

    It’s Christmas, that’s a Christmas tree…get over it.

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    • NOBAMA201258
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:21pm

      How pathetic it is that we believers allow shitheads like this to have their way, when we are the majority! If these morons would actually read the Bible and prophecy in particular,maybe they would see the LIGHT!

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    • GONESURFING
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:45pm

      These atheists are free to deny God, at their own peril.

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  • nohussein
    Posted on November 10, 2011 at 5:30pm

    Communists, always unwelcome.

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