Atheists Lecture Alleged Christian Thief With New IL Park Banner: ‘P.S. Your God Says, Thou Shalt Not Steal’
- Posted on April 12, 2012 at 7:45pm by
Billy Hallowell
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An atheist billboard that was reportedly stolen from Streator’s City Park in Streator, Illinois, has officially been replaced. But this time, the church-state separatist group Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) decided to add to its former message with a lesson from the Ten Commandments.
The original banner (Image Credit: Freedom From Religion Foundation)
A new banner reads the same as the old: “Nobody died for our ‘sins.’ Jesus Christ is a myth.” But the FFRF decided to drive its message home, while poking the individual or individuals behind the theft of the group’s banner. So, below the anti-resurrection message is a small note: “P.S. your god says, ‘Thou shalt not steal.’”
According to MyWebTimes.com, the sign is displayed in the northwest corner of City Park. It resides – intentionally – near crosses that were posted by the Streator Freedom Association. This pro-Christian group has also put up a new sign that reads, “He is risen.” The atheist message will be displayed until Friday, the original permit expiration date for the FFRF.
The atheist group continues to offer a $1,500 reward for information about the parties behind the original banner’s theft. So far, no arrests have been made in the case, as authorities continue to explore who is responsible. The FFRF, at least based on preliminary comments, seems interested in seeing the person or persons involved being brought up on Illinois hate crimes charges (Class 4), although the alleged crimes associated are technically misdemeanors.
The new banner (Image Credit: Freedom From Religion Foundation)
Although the FFRF believes that no religious banner should be permitted in the park, the group pledges to, once again, display its message next year if Streator Freedom Association posts any faith-based signs.
The foundation frequently finds itself in these localized debates in communities across America. Last Christmas, FFRF Co-President Annie Laurie Gaylor derided Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker over his proclamation that the tree in the state capitol would be referred to as a “Christmas” and not a “holiday” tree. Additionally, the group has become infamous for posting secular alternatives to nativity scenes if and when they pop up on government property.
(H/T: MyWebTimes.com)
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Comments (108)
Achildofgod
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:39pmRemember that even Satan quoted the scriptures to Jesus as he tried to tempt him for 40 days and night…. A true atheist as my grandfather was doesn’t have it in him to believe in God, just cannot conceive it at all…. and so as he says he wasn’t ever bothered about the fact that some people (Christians) had such silly notions…. So who is the true god of these people storing up problems about everything Christians do…. satan cares as he did with Christ but A TRUE atheist wouldnt even care!!! I know who they are serving and so do you…
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 12:23amChildofGod: You just strike me as someone who is sweet and humble. I pray you can keep being a witness for God. I may be totally wrong, but you just seem tired. You must have had a tough time, but it will be all good someday. Best to you in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Report Post »tylertxsteve
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:37pmlolololololol I LOVE MY MYTH and he Loves Me…sorry that u have nothing… but ur are free to not Believe, why do you have such a problem with my right to Believe.
Report Post »SouthSideLib
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 1:05pmWe don’t have a problem with you believing. We have a problem with religious people trying to pass laws based on their own morality.
Report Post »Hermit_boy
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 6:47pmSouthsidelib – Everyone tries to pass laws based on their own morality. What makes your atheist morality any more valid than our Christian morality? Or are you saying you are amoral?
Report Post »wifezilla
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 11:10pmOh geez people! I am an atheist. Remember that as you spew hate. I will be voting for ROMNEY (actually against Obama, but lets not quibble) along with the Christian conservatives. Hard for me to feel good about it when I know so many of the people I am voting WITH are irrational, hate-filled and think I suck even though they never met me. :P
Report Post »Warpspeedpetey
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 12:30amYou stated….”Hard for me to feel good about it when I know so many of the people I am voting WITH are irrational, hate-filled and think I suck even though they never met me.”
Do you see the problem here? You say that we irrational and hate filled even though you have never met most of us. While you are complaining that we think poorly of you without knowing you, you are doing the exact same thing to us.
Report Post »ToddH
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 6:58amHi WifeZilla,
Report Post »I‘m an atheist too but I don’t know where the “hate” is that you are talking about. I agree with many comments on these websites, and even as an atheist I can see the Christian faith is under attack all over the country, especially when the FFRF puts up signs, takes them down, and then blames Christians for it to elicit more funds (this kind of circus show is why I don’t give those guys money no more). I respect all religions, even Judaism and Islam, and I don’t call them “irrational”, though I understand people of all religions CAN BE irrational at times, and yes even atheists can be.
wifezilla
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 8:54amI am replying to the people spewing hate. If you aren’t spewing hate, my comment doesn’t apply to you.
Report Post »MMSands
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 11:22amNot to worry: most of the hate filled spewing comes from Leftist infiltrators trying to look like their idea of Beck and Blaze fans. Since none of the real fans are behaving like their fantasy fans, they have to fill in the blanks with their own, PC suppressed, ideologies and opinions.
Report Post »troymac20
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 11:33am@TODDH
“I‘m an atheist too but I don’t know where the “hate” is that you are talking about”
So you been here one day and don’t see the hate. Give it time and you will. Or just go read the thread about Jessica Alhquist receiving rape threats. People condoning violence against a teenage girl I would call hate. Religious hate, racism, and bigotry run wild on this forum.
Report Post »USACommoner
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 12:06pmTroy: Evidently, you secretly enjoy it or you wouldn’t remain. If you don’t like hate speak, then go to a liberal women’s forum, wait, that won’t work. Then go to a new black panther forum. Cr@p, that won’t work either. Go visit sharpton’s page. *%$#! Go to the “reverend” wright’s blog. Shoot. Go to a SEIU forum…dang, I’m running out of suggestions here. A little help…?
Report Post »troymac20
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 12:34pmDon‘t recall saying it upset me to the point I don’t want to be here. Plenty of people on here who don’t fall into that category. Take the good with the bad.
Report Post »centenium
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 1:19pmI don’t have enough faith to be an atheist
.
http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Have-Enough-Faith-Atheist/dp/1581345615
It takes an inordinate amount of faith to continue to believe in the atheist faith after having seen the evidence produced by atheist scientists for a monotheistic universe. This was my second favorite book next to Atlas Shrugged.
Report Post »troymac20
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 4:39pmAyn Rand was an atheist
Report Post »sbenard
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 10:42pmI don’t believe in atheists!
So if “your god” doesn’t exist, then stealing the sign becomes irrelevant, according to their own faulty reasoning!
Report Post »ToddH
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 7:00amSBENard, if you didn’t steal the sign then pls stop taking the blame for it.
Report Post »If you did, then pls do the Christian thing and turn yourself in (sigh).
ToddH
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 7:08amOops! Sorry for posting twice. After 5 minutes of refreshing I figured it didn’t go through.
Report Post »Any way to delete xtra posts? guess not.
dontbotherme
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 10:39pmNo one knows who stole the sign. Why assume it was Christians? The FFRF remind me of spoiled little two year old kids. Getting tired of them.
Report Post »Cedar
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 10:25pmMan, I just don‘t know if you’ll have enough time to REPENT, when it hits the fan. Don’t you want to think about this? LOL
Report Post »KingDork
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:48pmEveryday I go read up on current events and every day I read about the fanatical atheists. I had never seen such a “butthurt” group of fanatics. They are only slightly different than the other fanatics over in the middle east. Won’t be long till they catch up.
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:46pmThe Atheist’s Spaghetti Fairy says “what they are doing is wrong for mankind”.I heard him this morning when Obama was promising more jobs!
Report Post »Warpspeedpetey
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:37pmPremise 1: G-d does not exist (Jesus is a myth)
Premise 2: G-d does exist (Jesus said it is wrong to steal)
Conclusion1: A=notA
Apparently they don’t believe in logic either.
Report Post »TrueSoundsOfLiberty
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:47pmI didn’t think religion believed in science….
What you’re saying essentially is:
Report Post »I believe stealing is a sin.
Someone said I believe stealing is a sin, therefore they are wrong.
Conclusion: The point you tried to make is moot.
bikerr
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:51pm@TrueSoundsOfLiberty—You are correct in saying three words—”I didn’t think”
Report Post »Quiata
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:58pm@TRUESOUNDS Obviously the person(s) who stole the sign didn’t care if stealing was in defiance of one of the Commandments. So why bother wagging a Biblical finger at them?
Instead, why don’t the atheists supply their own well-concocted reason for describing the act as “wrong” (assuming they have one)? Perhaps you can fill us in…
Report Post »Warpspeedpetey
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 9:29pm1. Logic is a branch of philosophy.
Report Post »2. There is nothing about the scientific method in which to “believe”. It works for its intended purpose, but then so does my truck and I certainly don’t “believe” in my truck.
3. The point isn’t moot because there is clearly a logical contradiction being published by a group that generally considers itself to be intellectual in nature.
vegemouse
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 9:52pmTRUESOUNDSOFLIBERTY:
Report Post »I appreciate what you’re trying to do here. They‘re not understanding that atheists don’t need religion to have morals, and they’re not understanding that the sign is only pointing out the hypocrisy of Christians for stealing their sign. But as a great, anonymous man once said, “arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it’s victorious.”
Warpspeedpetey
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 12:20amIt is impossible for anyone to have morals without G-d. What you speak of are called opinions. It maybe that your opinion that we should live by the golden rule. Another mans opinion may be that he with the gold rules. The problem is that “morals” become a matter of group consensus. Which is fine if you aren’t a Jew circa 1942, a Tutsi circa 1995, or a peasant in any communist country from 1917-2012. Those people died because some men thought they knew good from evil. You are talking about one of the most dangerous ideas in human history. It has led to the death of hundreds of millions of people in genocides, pogroms, and collectivization drives. The last century has been soaked in the blood of people killed by those who were trying to be moral without G-d.
Also I should point out that everyone in the world is a hypocrite by the logic use. We all act in ways contrary to the beliefs we claim to hold. Me, you, everyone is a hypocrite. Surely you have acted against the beliefs that you espouse. Ever told a lie? Broken the golden rule? So as long as you are handing out judgement, don’t forget your share.
Report Post »troymac20
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 11:56am@WARPSPEEDPETEY
The sign says “your god says, thou shalt not steal”
YOUR god…… therefore your whole point is indeed moot.
Report Post »the wireworker
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 11:59am@ vegamouse
“When the Gentiles, who do not possess the law, do instinctively what the law requires…they show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, to which their own conscience also bears witness; and their conflicting thoughts will accuse or perhaps excuse them” (Rom. 2:14–15 NRSV).
When a person, whether Christian, Muslim, Hindu, atheist, or what have you, is functioning properly and not repressing or ignoring his conscience—especially while dwelling in a cultural milieu that reflects the moral truths of God—he basically knows right from wrong, good from evil. However, to know or believe that something is right or wrong is very different from justifying that thing’s being right or wrong. For example, one could know that flipping the light switch in the kitchen causes the light to go on and have absolutely no understanding of why this occurs or justification for how it really does so. By arguing for a belief in or knowledge of morality without providing a justification for morality, atheists confuse moral epistemology (moral knowledge) with moral ontology (foundational existence of morality). The real question at hand is this: What grounds the atheists’ moral positions? What makes their moral views more than mere hunches, inklings, or subjective opinions?
Report Post »MindOverMatter
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 1:57pmGod forbid that Christians are the rational ones!!
Politically motivated atheism is beyond logic. Its an ideological movement.
Report Post »Warpspeedpetey
Posted on April 14, 2012 at 12:35am@troymac20
It’s a simple logical contradiction. The word “your” doesn’t change that. I don‘t understand why you aren’t laughing with me. It was a silly mistake by people who should know better. I am sure that you are rational. I know I am rational. So whats the harm in admitting an amusing instance of irrationality occurred?
Report Post »troymac20
Posted on April 14, 2012 at 9:43am@WARPSPEEDPETEY
Oops your right, my bad. It would indeed still imply that God exist or that they believe in a different God. So in addition to chuckling at the headline the Blaze sensationalized (cause 1 line poking fun is not a lecture) I will indeed chuckle at that with you.
Report Post »And I also thank you for your polite and civilized replied and correction to my error. As I haven’t got much of that on here so far.
bikerr
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:36pm“A man can no more diminish God’s glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, ‘darkness’ on the walls of his cell.”
Report Post »C. S. Lewis
fiveisenough
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:31pmWait a minute…they quote the Bible…Gods words… and then try and turn them against us…but, but…I thought God didn’t exist. So, why are you quoting Him??
Report Post »fiveisenough
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:26pmWhy go through so much trouble to denounce something you don’t feel exists to begin with? I don’t worship a statue, or a plaque in some public place with the 10 commandments, or a manger scene at Christmas. You can remove all these things. However, you cannot remove God from my heart and soul.
Report Post »Why do atheists only go after Christianity? Why not Islam, or Buddhists, or any other religion? Could it be that Satan isn’t threatened by them. The devil was defeated on the cross.
DeavonReye
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 10:07amYou honestly don’t understand their point? Curious.
Report Post »romerojr27
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:19pmAll I have to say is these atheists better hope they’re right about everything. Because if they’re not…it’s gonna get rather hot. They don’t make an SPF for Hell.
Report Post »JGraham III
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:31pmFirstly, if there is in fact ‘no God’, then there is no sin and if there is no sin then “to the victor belong the spoils”. The person(s) who helped themselves to the sign have done no wrong, if the atheists are right. However, since the atheists know that taking their sign is wrong then the part of the Law that says “thou shalt not steal” is correct. By simple logic then, the first and greatest commandment has to be correct also, namely “thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, with all thy soul and with all thy mind.” Do the atheists do this by denying His existence? Or is their assertion merely a vehicle to excuse their own sin and condemn anyone who challenges them?
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 10:03amYou both speak ignorantly. Firstly, Pascal’s Wager is erroneous. Seth, Zeus, or Allah are equally valid in an “afterlife possiblity”, and the christian would not fair well in those situations.
Secondly, the law doesn’t state “thou shalt not steel”. So what if the bible says so. . . . Texts that pre-date hebrew texts said the same thing! It isn’t wrong because a “god” said it was wrong. People recognized that “without rule of law”, the weak are subject to the stronger and in order to have a successful society [since we are social creatures], these types of laws had to be inacted. You all throw a supernatural being in to where there was NEVER one! Why? Because you fear the unknown. Embrace reality, come to terms with it, and live a good life.
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 10:05amsteal . . . not “steel”, sorry.
Report Post »South Philly Boy
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:17pmCommunist
Report Post »TrueSoundsOfLiberty
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:31pmBeing an atheist does not make you a communist and being a communist does not make you an atheist. The people on here love to throw words like communist, marxist, and maoist around with what I’m sure is little understanding of what they really mean.
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:41pm@TrueSoundsOfLiberty—Look in a mirror. Thanks for the laugh!.
Report Post »ZAP
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:17pmEternity is a looooong time
Report Post »momrules
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:16pmFirst of all no one knows who took the sign. Secondly, the last people I would take a lecture from about anything of God would be an atheist.
Report Post »Quiata
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:16pmWhy didn’t the atheists cite their own profound reasons for why stealing is wrong? They’re smarter than everyone else; heck, why even bother pointing to ten old defunct & dusty moral platitudes when you can supply your own superior version of human virtues?
Oops, my bad: They’re still working on their thesis…
Report Post »infidelible
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 9:53pm@Quiata – Is it not enough to say that property rights are essential to freedom and liberty? That acting through force or fraud can only beget counter actions of the same and hence chaos? To maintain personal responsibility, extend respect to others and live your life in pursuit of happiness do not require anything that cannot be found in nature. That is, we do not need claims of the supernatural to live in a free and polite society.
Report Post »KingCanon
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:12pmActually, atheists worship each other. Sadly, to date, all of that worship
Report Post »has amounted to atheists wondering whom their last thought should be
about just before death.
I‘m willing to bet it’s asking forgiveness just in case they were wrong!
jedi.kep
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:06pm“Thou shall not steal”
Yeah, but it get’s a bit fuzzy on the subject of matches and lighter fluid… ;)
Report Post »Windsong
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:02pmPS, Atheists, you believe in nothing. You have no doctrines or laws that you live by.
Until you decide to take being an atheist seriously, don‘t quote others’ rules/laws/testaments. Write your own, then live by them.
Don’t preach to others when you have nothing to back your own words. No one truly knows what awaits them at the time of death. No one. However, there are billions all over the world that believe in God. Internally, it gives them hope, peace and something to strive toward – becoming a better person. It also makes them seek answers about God and about their fellowman.
I’m trying my best to see the upside for an atheist who believes in nothing. I hope there is peace of some sort…and happiness.
Report Post »TrueSoundsOfLiberty
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:19pmSee here is the problem, just because someone doesn‘t believe in your god you’re so quick to dismiss anything they have to say, especially when they point out your hypocrisy.
Remember, judge not lest ye be judged.
–Everybody’s praying, don’t prey on me
Report Post »infidelible
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 10:03pm@Windsong – Personally, I’m an Objectivist. I subscribe to a fully-featured philosophy that specifically addresses the metaphysical constraints that preclude the supernatural in general and therefore the idea of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, all-loving being as described by most Christians.
Anyway, if you get bored, check out Objectivism and, while you will immediately discount it (you didn’t use reason to arrive at your current state of understanding, I won’t burden myself with the expectation that reason will have any chance of taking you away from it), you will see that while the term “atheist” does not itself mean anything positively (it tells you what someone does not believe, not what they do), most atheist utilize some philosophical framework, even if not overtly aware of it.
Report Post »Warpspeedpetey
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 12:54am@infidelible
I would love to hear the metaphysical restraints that preclude G-d. Everyone else that accepts the Primacy of Existence are theists. Including the the first one I know of to espouse the theory, Mulla Sadr. G-d is the very act of existing. Logically necessary because the negation of existence is an existent nothing. Which is a logical contradiction. Therefore G-d must be because there is no other possible state than to exist. Hence G-d exists without a cause. So nothing I know of precludes G-d.
Report Post »TRONRADIO
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:01pmYay, another atheist story. Who cares? Be an atheist. It’s obviously a miserable existence.
Report Post »infidelible
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 10:46pmAtheists are miserable because Christians steal from them? An odd point to make, but ok.
Or are there other reasons an atheist is supposed to be miserable? Because, personally, I whistle to work, cherish the time with my wife and daughter and enjoy laughing with friends. Of the things that do get me down, though, is the thought of the huge opportunity cost that my Christian friends pay while pursuing the dead-end thinking that is religion.
Report Post »Warpspeedpetey
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 1:09amOf the things that do get me down, though, is the thought of the huge opportunity cost that my Christian friends pay while pursuing the dead-end thinking that is religion.
You are making the wine women and song argument. Wagering a few decades of illicit pleasure against an eternity of life is the mathematical equivalent of wagering the infinitesimal against the infinite. It would be foolish not to wager the illicit pleasures of a short lifetime against eternal life. When we consider that the pleasures of life are easily balanced by the suffering Pascals wager holds. There is no way to win except by belief .
Report Post »Aix_sponsa
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 4:15pm@Warpspeedpetey
“You are making the wine women and song argument. Wagering a few decades of illicit pleasure against an eternity of life is the mathematical equivalent of wagering the infinitesimal against the infinite. It would be foolish not to wager the illicit pleasures of a short lifetime against eternal life. When we consider that the pleasures of life are easily balanced by the suffering Pascals wager holds. There is no way to win except by belief .”
Sure. Give me evidence that there is eternal life or a Christian heaven, then I might “win by belief”. Until then, I’m going to enjoy what I can actually observe and feel. Enjoy the delusion of waiting for something better.
Report Post »Moozmom
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 7:58pmThe atheists are correct-thou shalt not steal. That’s right. He also said, “Thou shall have no other gods before me”.
Report Post »Athesists worship the god Baal.
momrules
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:04pmI’m glad I read your post before I wrote mine. They would have been almost identical.
Report Post »ProgressiveDeist267
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:05pmAtheism means “without theist”. Baal was actually worshiped by early Israelite in ancient Canaan. “Features belonging to deities such as El, Asherah, and Baal were absorbed into the Yahwistic religion of Israel.” Trust me atheist do not worship any deity or have a religion; atheism just means a non-belief in a deity. http://www.christianitydisproved.com/god.html
Report Post »Quiata
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:21pm@PROGRESSIVE Atheists (literally) define themselves by what they’re against, rather than what they are *for*.
Report Post »ProgressiveDeist267
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:29pmWhere do you get that information from? Atheism just means “without theist or lack of belief in a deity”. Anyone can identify as an atheist. There are good atheist and there are bad atheist who have impacted humanity. I just judge the individual then groups of people.
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on April 13, 2012 at 9:54amAnd one of my favorite quotes, . . .[roughly put] . . . “There have been thousands of gods throughout human history. Most people are atheistic about most of them. Some just go one god further.”
An atheist is only so because he/she rejects the claims made by a theist. . . for various reasons, of course. They make no claim of their own to prove. . . just a rejection of claims that fail to make their burden of proof.
Report Post »AB5r
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 7:58pmWhat about lying to a Nazi SS officer who asks you if there are any Jews hiding in your basement? Wouldn’t it be the better thing to do to lie in that instance? Perhaps stealing a sign such as this falls into a similar group of instances. The theft is not being done for personal gain, there is no monetary value involved.
Report Post »infidelible
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 10:11pm@AB5R – that is awfully weak. The SS officer would be a representative of a statist regime employing fraud and force against the people. In such a situation, you would be allowed, by any pro-human philosophy to lie to the antagonist (and to actively use force against him). How the sign represents to you an operating statist regime with a known history of violence is beyond imagination.
Also, the property belongs to someone else. To take the sign deprives the owners the use of it. And it does have value. That you would even make the attempt to contort your thinking to justify it indicates you are an impotent zealot who does not understand the requirements of liberty. For instance, the idea that speech, even (and especially) unpopular ideas ought to be allowed. If you disagree with the speech, then you are free to say so. You are free to not associate with the speakers or those in agreement. You are NOT allowed to use force to stifle that speech.
You’re worse than any Obama-supporting liberal.
Report Post »WhiteFang
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:10pmWho said it was a Christian who stole the sign?
Besides, a real Christian, one who is a true follower of Christ, would not steal anything.
Report Post »So, either way it was not a Christian who stole the sign.
ProgressiveDeist267
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 7:53pmThis is very funny! I’m glad the FFRF has a sense of humor of this incident. I do not think it was right in taking their sign though that is stealing and against the law.
Report Post »Quiata
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 8:26pmWhy is stealing “wrong”?
What is “wrong”? How does that differ from “right”?
And what if we called it “voluntary unilateral re-appropriation”? Would that make it less “wrong”?
Report Post »;^)
infidelible
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 10:19pm@QUIATA – Stealing is wrong for secular reasons. It is wrong because societies without individual property rights always revert back to a collective with an authoritative leadership. Call it what you will, it is wrong because it violates a foundational principle of individual liberty.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on April 12, 2012 at 7:50pmsure wish we were back there, a can of gas and a match…. just call it a sacrifice to Yahweh of the Old Testament.
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