Atheists Plan ‘Slightly Blasphemous’ Nativity Response to Combat the ‘War on the Constitution’
- Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:35pm by
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The Freedom From Religion Foundation went near-nuclear when Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker started referring to the annual “holiday” spruce as a “Christmas” tree. If that minor action is what led the group’s co-president, Annie Laurie Gaylor, to call Walker “…a Teabagger governor wearing religion on his sleeves,” one wonders just how venomous her language will get now that a nativity scene has been placed in the state capitol. Now, the group is planning to respond with its own “slightly blasphemous” version of the nativity.
Christmas, a holiday that has many secular elements, but one that is rooted in the Christian faith, often comes along with a fair share of debate surrounding the separation of church and state. Now, for the first time in recent memory, WISC-TV is reporting that an undoubtedly Christian depiction has been placed in the state’s Madison capitol. The capitol has, in the past, hosted menorahs and other religious displays, but the presence of the nativity scene is raising some eyebrows.
Julaine Appling of Wisconsin Family Action, the conservative organization responsible for the nativity, has come out defending the exhibition. ”We think it’s a very tasteful presentation,” she said. It is, of course, important to note that while it was the governor who began using the word “Christmas” to describe the tree in the rotunda, the new nativity scene was put together by a private group.
Annie Laurie Gaylor, co-president of the Freedom From Religion Foundation
Of course, Gaylor doesn’t agree with the display’s presence. ”We just don’t think a nativity scene belongs in the Wisconsin State Capitol,” she says. “It’s the seat of state government and everybody should feel welcome there.”
In commenting on the nativity display, Gaylor said, ”There’s no war on Christmas, there’s a war on the Constitution during the entire month of December.”
In an effort to show further opposition to the nativity, Gaylor’s group is planning what she calls a “slightly blasphemous…irreverent tweak on the nativity scene.” The FFRF is currently seeking a permit for the display.
Appling, though, doesn‘t see why there’s a controversy. She contends that everyone is already welcome to showcase their views in the capitol and she points out that there is another display next to hers with a message she disagrees with (there is a sign from the FFRF that proclaims that God doesn’t exist).
But in the spirit of inclusiveness she says, “…they have as much right to be there as we do. I think it’s time for all of us to realize there’s a lot of room for different voices.”
During “Interfaith Awareness Week” various groups showcase their religious traditions around the capitol’s rotunda. This, WISC-TV reports, is how Appling’s group received permission to display the nativity until the end of December.
Gaylor hasn’t provided more information on her planned display, but she is hoping to have it up soon.
(H/T: Channel3000)
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This_Individual
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:25pmThis socialist group does not represent aheists any more than the Bellamy socialists who post their hate-filled rants all over The Blaze are. How about “Atheist Group” instead of “Atheists”? At least that doesn’t throw atheists who do not proslytize in the same box as these socialists.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 3:42pm“slightly blasphemous” – is that like “slightly pregnant”?
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 4:31pmSee, here’s a socialist now.
Report Post »Lotus4115
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 4:51pmSome Atheists are conservative, some liberals are Christian. BeckTards like to label people.
Kangana
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 5:03pmI hate atheists. Does this make me a self-loathing atheist? Is it self-loathing if the group you “belong” to, even nominally, really, really sucks? Maybe group-loathing would be a more accurate way to describe it.
These people aren’t atheists; they are bigots.
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 5:15pmKANGANA – Describing one’s self as a collective, or attempting to represent a collective would be self loathing. And this lady seems to have plenty of that.
Report Post »ICanComment
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 5:51pm@Lotus4115, I guess “BeckTard” isn’t a label, huh?
Report Post »US_SOLDIER
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 1:43amIm an athiest but I agree she is totally wrong here. Just as I hate when christians, jews, muslims whatever try to push their religion on others, I feel she is just as guilty. If everyone would just stop worrying so much about what another person does, says, feels, looks and the like then we could get along better. Somehow people feel they have the right to direct someone elses actions, thoughts or beliefs. Stop it people!
Report Post »poorrichard09
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 8:08amWhat part of the “free exercise” (of religion) in the 1st amendment don’t these haters understand?
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:51pmThese Atheist that make the news don’t represent even 99% of atheists in the world. Atheists have better things to do then give a crap. Lots of atheists celebrate christmas. P
Report Post »andrewleiner
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 12:43pm8. And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, {This happened in 70 A.D. when the Roman General Titus destroyed Jerusalem and burned the Jewish Temple.} and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, {This happened in 691 A.D. when the Dome of the Rock, a Muslim shrine, was built on the Temple Mount.} there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. {The wise know that these “days” are years. So, 691 + 1,290 = 1981. What happened here on Earth in 1981? Not much that I know of. But my guess is that this is when Satan was cast out of Heaven. {Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! For the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. Revelation 12:12}
9. Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. {Ok, 691 + 1,335 = 2026. No one knows the day or the hour, but, it looks, to me, that this is the year of the Second Coming, when Jesus returns, not as the Lamb of God, but, as the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. “Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel. Psalms 2:9.}
10. But go thou way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.
Daniel 12:11-13
andrewleiner@comcast.net
Report Post »behindthejab
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:25pmWhen Christians put up idols of their God (Jesus) in clear violation of the 10 Commandments, and then claim it’s their religious freedom to do so I find it pretty freaking funny.
In case you forgot:
“You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.”
Christmas is NOT Christian, Jesus never celebrated a birthday nor did he command the celebration of his birthday. He followed the Jewish holidays as mandated by Jewish Law. You fight for your pagan holiday just as strongly as the Romans did to keep Saturnalia and Sol Invictus.
If you are going to fight for it, at least do the research to understand what you are fighting for. Jesus warns about following the words of man and calling them his words. If you really believe hell is the punishment for not listening to the big J, then maybe you should get your heads out of your hineys and actually attempt to understand the history of your own faith and how much of it is pure paganism and something Jesus would probably not be very pleased to see.
Report Post »Kaoscontrol
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:38pmGlad to see you’re in the Christmas Spirit BEHINDTHEJAB. “Blah Blah Blah Pagan! Blah Blah Blah Research! Bah-Humbug!” You’re as much fun as a Self Righteous Pharisee convention. Why don’t you lighten up and bring some Joy to the world?
Report Post »momrules
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:42pmI’m a Christian and the Nativity scene is not worshipped. The Person, the blessing, the greatness of Jesus is worshipped. Get your head out of academia and just show some faith in the one true King.
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:58pmYou quote the scripture but don’t understand it. An image of Jesus is NOT an idol because I don’t bow down and worship it. It’s an idol only if you worship it. I recognize these images as merely images that represent Jesus. They hold no power in themselves. They are just a painting or a statue. They are not Jesus himself. So I don’t worship them, or bow before them, or pray to them.
Report Post »mdwilliams1967
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:59pmbehindthejab…wow! Education goes a long way, but a little education is a dangerous thing! A little education is what makes somebody like you think that you know what you are talking about; when, in reality, you don’t have a clue!
Displaying a symbolic item of my Christian faith does not mean that I am ‘bowing down to them and worshipping them’ by any stretch of the imagination. I put my faith and trust in Christ. I believe that God is real and can be proven. I believe that he sent His son, Jesus, to die for us. Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth and the life…no man comes to the Father but through me.” (John 14:6)
I will pray for you. I hope that you can open your mind and ears before bashing others without all of the facts. Best of luck to you with that. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 3:02pm“If you really believe hell is the punishment for not listening to the big J”
Hell is a place made for the rebellious angels including satan, and people do go there when they don‘t accept God’s free gift of mercy and grace via Jesus Christ and His death and resurrection for their sin. If that’s what you mean by “not listening to the big J” then I agree with you.
Report Post »TNT_Party
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 3:12pmI don‘t need an atheist to tell me how to interpret the Bible which you’re misunderstanding. The 10 Commandments were written for Israelites, in other words, Hebrews which were worshiping the false Gods of the Egyptians notably Baal. They were NOT making idols of Christ. Christians on the other hand are not violating the 10 Commandments by making images of Christ, because they are not worshiping the image, they are worshiping God. The commandment was telling the children of Israel not to worship Ra (the sun) nor fish, nor creature of the air or of the earth. But was saying, worship the God of Abraham only. Even a Muslim could set you straight on this one…
Report Post »1proudAmerican
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 3:41pm@Behindthejab
I don’t believe that you are an atheist. Based on your quotes and reasoning, I believe you are a Jehovah’s Witness. You are being misled. Christians don’t worship Nativity scenes, or images of Christ, or crosses. As for the birthday argument, wedding anniversaries were not mentioned in the Bible either but Witnesses are free to celebrate those. When you are taught a quote, look up the entire passage instead of just the parts taken out of context.
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 3:57pmHelp me out here. Why are you all focusing on the “worship” part of this commandment? Whether or not you are worshipping something, . . .
“You shall not make for yourself an IMAGE in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.”
The second part talks about worship. :-/
Deeberj, you said:
“Hell is a place made for the rebellious angels including satan, and people do go there when they don‘t accept God’s free gift of mercy and grace via Jesus Christ and His death and resurrection for their sin.”
It isn’t a “gift” to stay, . . . “accept the ‘free gift’ or else face an eternity of torture”. The “gift” becomes nothing more than a “payment to the mafia boss”. It is the “condition, else your thumbs are broken”. That isn’t mercy!
I post not to take away your right to say it, but to hopefully have you understand why your statement is incredibly offensive to those who don’t believe it. You make “unbelievers” into second class citizens who “deserve what’s coming to them”. A way of looking down the nose at those who happen to not agree with you. You are free to believe what you want, but I don’t [and won't] threaten a horrible future onto people who don’t agree with me.
A question. Why is it that your bible states “Hell is for the Devil and his angels”, yet christianity has somehow added “the unbeliever” into that statement? Fear is a powerful tool to turn the fearful.
Report Post »gperky
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 4:22pmDear Jab,
Report Post »You may be right, however, when a bunch of people get together for the purpose of giving gifts to each other and celebrating love and compassion to the homeless, the sick and even people like you, I don’t see anything but good. What disappoints me is that it only happens once a year. I’ll pray for God to relieve you stress so you can enjoy this time of year and remember Jesus, no matter what day he was born!
jstan442
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 5:32pmthe 10 commandments are to show man that he cannot live up to them–that he needs a Savior-someone who is sinless–Jesus is the sinless lamb of God–as for the ‘idols’ we worship the Lord not the scene of the nativity–we know the difference–and hell is for unbelievers-not those putting up a nativity–read the Bible
Report Post »ICanComment
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 5:58pmThere’s this thing called the Trinity. You don’t have to believe in It/Him, but most Christians that I know believe that Jesus is God. You already know this, though – you’re just picking a fight. If you‘re Jewish and don’t believe in Christ as the Messiah, I love you brother, but I don’t agree with you. I don’t see how silencing others increases your religious freedom.
If you don’t believe that Christ is the Messiah, that’s your decision. If you‘re right and I’m wrong, well, then so be it and I have to answer for that. I’m not ashamed of what I believe, nor am I stopping you from believing what you’re believing. I’m not silencing you, which is what “freedom from religion” is. Matters of eternity are anything but “pretty freaking funny” in my opinion, but you may indeed subscribe to your brand of humor.
Report Post »tammileigh
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 7:11pmYou forgot to read the first commandment. “Thou shalt have no other God’s before Me” The second commandment pertains to any other god as a graven image. For example “in heaven” means sun/moon star worship, Earth, means animals etc…even “Mother Earth”, “Below” means satanic idols. An image of God himself is depicted in the Manger scene as Christ is God’s Son and was Fully man and Fully God. Secondly there is no law or amendment that separate church from stat in our constitution. This is a myth. Personally, I am offended when someone says that God does not exist but, I will not tell someone else that they cannot say it. That is in the Constitution by the way. Free speech. You can believe that God does not exist. We all have to die someday. What is your wrong? I will celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ even if it was against the law. Every Christian would.
Report Post »Japheth1
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:15pmNumber 1 that’s the first commandment which is you shall have no other gods. You took that out of context because Exodus 20:3 says “You shall have no other gods before me.” Which you have then broken the second commandment by misusing the name of LORD. Which is what idols are. Idols can be pron, money, sex, or drugs.
Report Post »mebrwb
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 12:16amCHRISTmas is CHRISTian and putting a nativity scene up is just a reminder of the day our Saviour came down and became a man so that we could spend eterity with Him because of His sacrifice for our sins. We don’t worship or bow down to the nativity scene so it is not an idol. Sad that you should have so much anger in your heart at the very best time of the year…He loves you too
Report Post »stephenb.net
Posted on December 13, 2011 at 11:15amDeavonreye “As for my knowledge, I spent nearly 30 years in the church and have read the bible thoroughly”
Shame that you didn’t seem to absorb much of it.
Deavonreye “However, it is HIGHLY immoral to punish people for a THOUGHT crime.”
It isn‘t a crime and it isn’t thought crime. It’s an issue of being in sin and denying your creator or being forgiven your sin and living for the creator. It’s about action not an intellectual idea. We know this because “even the demons believe and tremble”. So it isn’t about thoughts, it’s about being and action.
Deavonreye “That is the only difference between me and you. I may even be more ethical than you!”
By human measures you may be, I don’t know, I am not your judge. Judging from my own past, it is quite possible.
Deavonreye “But if my lack of belief damns me [once again, going under the argument that YOUR specific god is real], then at least I will be able to stand with my honor in tact.”
Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. When you are on your knee confessing Jesus, let me know how in tact your honor is. Honor…that’s actually amusing to me. Compared to the Holyness of God you (we) have no honor.
Report Post »JCG
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:24pm“…She contends that everyone is already welcome to showcase their views in the capitol and she points out that there is another display next to hers with a message she disagrees with (there is a sign from the FFRF that proclaims that God doesn’t exist).”
Apparently FFRF is not satisfied with the paegentry of their illustrious beliefs in… nothing. So, in order to express their beliefs, they feel the need to lash out at those they don’t like, with a ‘slightly blashphemous’ display… [FFRF: chuckle, chuckle, why, aren't we so witty at poking fun at Christianity]
What if we had a scene for the nativity of FFRF’s god… like a nativity scene with a picture of them as a baby… or, a picture of Gaylor thinking with a ballon next to her head with a ‘witty’ remark like, When I think of God, I think of… (ME! with a picture of herself), or “I think, therefore I’m a god!” Why, that’d be HATE speech!
The U.S. Constitution (or, more precisely, the first amendment) states “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
Do you think the removal of a Christian nativity scene may be considered “prohibiting the free exercise thereof” or “abridging the freedom of speech”? There is a war against the U.S. Constitution, and FFRF and
Report Post »stephenb.net
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 4:44pmDeavonray “unbelievers” into second class citizens who “deserve what’s coming to them”.
NO, not second class citizens. I would never consider an unbeliever less than a person or less than a citizen to be treated differently than myself. That is a smoke screen that you use in a PC kind of way to distort the truth.
The second part of your statement is the truth. “deserve what’s coming to them” You betcha! But to make it easier for you to understand, we are ALL going to hell until we aren’t. We ALL have what’s coming to us in judgment and all are guilty of sin. Those however who believe (not intellectually but spiritually and through their actions) in Jesus Christ will be spared by His grace not by our actions or deeds.
Most people who are unbelievers and sadly many believers as well have very little knowlege about what it is that they are against or for because they never took an earnest individual look at scripture and studied it for it’s content. A mere cursory look will net you nothing but distortion and confusion and atheists are not alone in their ignorance, many Christians are equally as ignorant.
Report Post »DeavonReye
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 5:05pmYou put this in the wrong post. Regardless….
Once again. Your attempt at fearful manipulation will go nowhere. I am not an atheist, but what I stated [and I agree with some of the atheist plight] is quite valid. You are making a bold statement that “everyone deserves an eternal punishment” and fail to see THAT “an eternal punishment” is immoral.
Now, I don’t believe for a second what christianity teaches about “the afterlife”. I make my comments to point out why those who are “unbelievers” press hard against the doctrines of a religious system that so easily puts people into a low muck of existence. Lower than that of the animal.
As for my knowledge, I spent nearly 30 years in the church and have read the bible thoroughly. Part of that reading is what brought me out of it. I often wonder how many people actually read it for what it actually states. Regardless, feel free to demoralize yourself into the “worm before god” if you want. However, it is HIGHLY immoral to punish people for a THOUGHT crime. That is the only difference between me and you. I may even be more ethical than you! But if my lack of belief damns me [once again, going under the argument that YOUR specific god is real], then at least I will be able to stand with my honor in tact. I truthfully see no reason to believe YOUR religion. It is honest and I will not compromise my character for “accepting that which I cannot believe” outside of an actual and undenyable experie
Report Post »welovetheUSA
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:20pmChristmas is the birth of Jesus………period.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:50pmand the demons tremble at the name of Jesus
Report Post »CatB
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:59pmI hope they are enjoying the Nativity in my yard .. and so they won’t miss it at night .. I have spotlights on it. I wish every Christian in the country would do the same.
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:17pmHow does this affect your own personal observance of you faith? I mean, no one is stopping you from going to Church or having a bible study at home. I would suggest ignoring these socialists.
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:52pmWe have the freedom to exercise our religion in public.She wants to stop that. If we allow her and others like her to get what they want, don’t you fool yourself – they will be trying to stop us from reading our bibles at home or having bible studies at home. Which by the way is already happening.
Report Post »wingedwolf
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:11pmPardon me if I’m wrong here, but I think it’s important to note that the actual wording is: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, NOR PROHIBIT THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF.” Soooooooooooooooo……. while these freaks are pounding their chests, etc, What about or right to free exercise thereof???
CatB
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:29pmNow they want their own Nativity .. “slightly blasphemous…irreverent tweak on the nativity scene.” The FFRF is currently seeking a permit for the display.”
Aren’t these the same people who want to stop Christians from putting up a Traditional Nativity?
Report Post »momrules
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:10pmAnnie Gaylor thinks a Nativity scene makes atheists feel unwelcomed at the Capitol.
She will eventually understand what the word unwelcomed means when she faces Jesus Christ at Judgement. I despise her and people like her but I also feel so very sorry for her.
Report Post »gsplgtr
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:09pmWhat makes me laugh about the FFRF is how they “evangelize”. They would like us all to be atheists, and their message?????? “We are mean, nasty, vulgar, intolerant, argumentative and hollow inside, and we want you to be just like us. Peace !”
Report Post »Kaoscontrol
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:30pmRight on. Amy needs to learn the subtle art of persuasion. Being nasty tends to sour others to your cause rather than win them over.
Report Post »sickntiredofliberals
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:05pmThis ‘Annie Laurie Gaylord’ and her organization needs PRAYER. If all who believe in prayer were to start praying for ‘them’, God may intercede with His grace and mercy. We all need to pray for “our” country, pray for forgiveness and mercy and ask God to take control. He can work faster that we can, but we must pray. We have been quiet too long and allowed “them” to come to the front and start bullying (sp) everyone who disagrees with them. We who believe in God must pray and stand up for HIM.
Report Post »Rillobymorning
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:15pmGod is already in control. He reigns over all. He‘s not up there scratching his head and wondering what’s gone awry down here. It’s part of a plan and we just need to learn patience.
Report Post »junior1971
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:15pmGod needs to reap the fields! Are you ready?
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:19pm“God needs to reap the fields! Are you ready?”
Ayup!
I wish we’d all been ready…
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:48pmI can pray, but she has a free will to do what she wants. God won’t step in and force her to do anything.
Report Post »PATRIOTMAMA
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:05pmHate to correct everyone in this article but the war is not on Christmas or the constitution or the “American” way of life. The war is on Christianity. Christmas, the constitution and the American way of life are simply casualties of war. The REAL battle here is about much more than money, or land, or anything on this earth. The battle is for peoples‘ souls and you had better figure out what side you’re on before you don’t get to make the choice any longer. That day is coming. Make no mistake.
Report Post »the wireworker
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 8:12pmher eyes look souless, no joy…sad really
Report Post »bcanddc
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:03pmWhy is it that in this country, the 1% who claim to be offended by something get what they want and the 99% who are not offended have to give up what they want?
It’s time for this end with regards to Christmas and EVERYTHING else too.
Report Post »bcanddc
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:00pmFFRF is strictly an anti-Christian group, be honest at least. There could be menorahs stacked to the ceiling and they wouldn’t care but a CHRISTMAS tree sends them into cardiac arrest!
Go away FFRF and by the way, I expect each and every single one of you to report to work on the 25th.
Report Post »Rayblue
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:00pmIs there such a thing as “slightly blasphemous” ? I guess they’re “slightly” misled.
Report Post »Old Ramrod
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:56pmI rest easy knowing that I will not share eternity with these folks.
Report Post »REPUBLICANINCALI
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:10pmI can’t understand why the nonbelievers are so down on everything. I think a little religion will help lighten their moods.
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:42pm@ rebub I get ribbed all the time because I get the daily prayer from Joel Osteen. I don’t go to church because its to damn exspensive but this little bit of positive starts my day of on a good note. Anyone that has a problem with that can step up and get a boot in their a$$.
Merry Christmas!!!!
Report Post »762x51
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:56pmI think we need to start a Freedom From A-holes Foundation.
Report Post »Capitalist Mama
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:19pmAmen!
Report Post »762x51
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:55pm“In commenting on the nativity display, Gaylor said, ”There’s no war on Christmas, there’s a war on the Constitution during the entire month of December.”
Actually there IS a war on Christmas AND a war on the Constitution. Unfortunately the war on the Constitution is a 24×7x365 battle, not just December. These vile, despicable leftists will not be content with just destroying the Constitution but need to destroy American culture and all of western civilization to effectively achieve their evil goals. This is truly a war in every sense of the word and will end in a real live shooting war on the streets of America, there can no longer be any other outcome. Liberals seek to destroy us and the only way to defeat them and survive is to destroy them making this a war of annihilation. You cannot run from it or hide from it or escape by ignoring it.
If the America of the founders is to survive with economic freedom and personal liberty intact you must be prepared to destroy the evil in our midst. You must fight and you may die but your children will not live under the boot of liberal fascism. Is it such a great price to pay for their freedom?
Report Post »Obama Snake Oil Co
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:25pmAs someone put it to me the other day, the unarmed progressive will make a easy, quick target when the news media realizes they are in the line of fire…literally. They will run like little girls from a snake. These idiots as a rule, have no idea what they are doing and have underestimated how well armed we conservatives are. Whats worse? We know how to use the equipment and not afraid to use it when needed. There will come a point when the screaming, drums and attack on religion may require a hunting season for these ********. No bag limit either. First go around was with the British…we all saw how they fought and how we won. I don’t think the Libtardial Revolution has much of a chance and will eventually run out of money and warm clothes…….
Report Post »momrules
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 3:12pmYou are right. We are heading for war in America, another Civil war, Americans against Americans. I hate it, I dread it but it is coming.
Will I fight for America as the founders did for this country. Yes.
Will I fight the left and Islam in the coming religeous war against Christians? Yes.
Will I die for my beliefs? That is up to God but my soul is prepared.
I may never meet you but we will be brothers/sisters on the battlefield.
Report Post »CARS60
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:54pmi have an idea – Since she wants a freedom from religion, we can let them have a display in January when there is no religious holidays (that I know of). She says her peace and Christians and Jews get to have theirs. But that‘s not what she’s about, she’s a hater and wants to put it in the faces of people of faith. Makes you wonder what kind of home she grew up in.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:09pmBest Idea I have yet heard! That is their beef, right? Then let’s make January “love an atheist” month. They can have the whole month to put up billboards, chant slogans, march in parades, and even set up Darwin shrines in their yards! I have NO problem with that, more power to them.
Just keep out of December you idiotic morons…
Report Post »maccow
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:21pmAtheists already have a recognized holiday. It occurs on April 1st every year.
Report Post »Tex_Rabbit
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:25pmAmendment 1 – Freedom of Religion,
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances..
I see none on establishing a religion. If the would show the full extent of things on the courthouse they would see Santa Claus with his sleigh and reindeer too. Opps no one talking about that.
Report Post »pap pap
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:53pmThere’s no such thing as “separation of church and state” in the constitution. Get over it.
Report Post »762x51
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:03pmExactly right, except libs have no interest in the truth, only in propaganda that fits in with and advances their Marxist agenda.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:52pmHow does a nativity scene make you not feel welcom, precisely? I don’t go haywire if a Menorah goes up, which by the way why is that ok, but somehow these poor super sensitive bored people with nothing better to do than complain about others, get offended.
Give me a break.
Report Post »dlivelli
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:52pmAnother wonderful example of the “tolerance” they so boldly display, huh? Have they no knowledge of history? ….both ancient and US? How about if they would practice what they preached. Do they realize that Washington viewed the role of what he called the “invisible hand” as predominantly important in this countries foundation and formation? Do they also comprehend that people who pray to…dare I say it….. GOD….fought and died for their right to deny His existence?
Report Post »Johnny916
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:51pmI’m an atheist and I grew up celebrating Christmas. Even though I know Christmas has non-Christian roots and that most of the Christmas holiday is secular and capitalistic. I feel we should spend this holiday season for family and friends. Keep it kosher.
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:48pm“a “slightly blasphemous…irreverent tweak on the nativity scene.””
What a disingenuous way to refer to hate speech.
Report Post »Roberto G. Vasquez
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:57pmIt’s not a war on Christmas, it’s a war on Christianity!
Report Post »762x51
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:02pmImagine if we put on a “slightly blasphemous” presentation of Cinco de Mayo or Gay Pride Fest, or Ramadan, Hanukkah or any other liberal, segregationist protected class sacred cow holiday.
The feces would impact the rotating oscillator then, it would be labelled as “Hate Speech” the Orwellian equivalent of controlling the language and therefore the conversation.
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:47pmI don‘t think I’m gonna like the slightly blasphemous Christmas scene the freedom from religion people have. And boy, what a stupid name for an organization. That’s like saying I have an organization called “freedom from people bothering me”. You have freedom of, not freedom from in this country.
Report Post »Buck Shane
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:53pmI don’t care what they believe. Why do they care what I believe?
Report Post »I promise to let them believe whatever they want, but I demand that they do not impose their views on me.
If I want their opinion, I’ll ask them.
AvengerK
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 2:14pmI feel very sorry for militant atheists. There’s a palpable, unpleasant “something” about them. A bitterness. An aggression that goes beyond simply principled disagreement. There’s a spite to them. A venomousness where they revel in mocking religion and Christians primarily. They hide behind the constiution, they don’t defend it. If the constitution was so inviolate to them they’d all be at work on December 25th and lobbying that the whole country remain at work that day too. Many federal, state and local agencies are not at work that day either. Clearly…the state is recognizing a christian holiday in doing so. Yet…where are the calls to exclude the day from the national holiday calendar? By demanding that..they would harden opposition to them on a bigger scale than just christian demographics…so they “don’t go there”.
Report Post »So they “crucify” Santa to express their malice and spite and hide behind “art” and the constitution.
The “artist” responsible for the Leesburg, Virginia “martyrdom” of Santa, Jeff Hefflin, Jr., an atheist of course, stated in the usual tiresome Newspeak of those determined to offend inoffensively (something like “slightly blasphemous” no doubt), that his work of sculpture was an “art work of Santa on a cross to depict society’s materialistic obsessions and addictions and how it is killing the peace, love, joy and kindness that is supposed to be prevalent during the holiday season.”- Yes..of course..that’s why you
AvengerK
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:46pmVery good Ms Gaylor…a war on the constitution each December? Wonderful..so we can expect you at work on December 25th? We can also expect you to lobby Federal, your state and local governments and make sure any of their departments off that day are at work instead? After all…aren’t they acknowledging a Christian holiday by not being at work on December 25. Oh and don’t give your kids any presents that day either. December 25th is just another day…right Ms Gaylor? So..we can expect all atheists at work on December 25th? Don’t give me..”my work‘s closed I wont’ have anything to do”. There’s always something you can do..filing, cleaning, organizing, repairing, cold calling, stocking..whatever..there’s always something that needs doing at work.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 3:02pmTo add even more:
Title V Part III Subpart E, Chapter 61, Subchapter 6103 HOLIDAYS
By the law above, the following are national holidays shown in their accurate form for the United States of America:
The following are legal public holidays: (other holidays edited out)
Christmas Day, December 25.
What part of Christmas does the DOFUS NOT UNDERSTAND!!!!
ENOUGH of this nonsense. December 25 is legally known as Christmas. Until the law is changed, it remains Christmas. I am getting so sick of the laws of our land ignored for the PC bunch.
Report Post »Carter John
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:43pmYou never hear the FFR going after a menorah only the things connected to Christianity. I wonder why do they only target the religion this countries founders believed in.
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on December 12, 2011 at 1:54pmThey won’t go after the menorah, because they’d face having a holocaust dime dropped on them. They don’t have the guts for that, so they attack people who are supposed to turn the other cheek.
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