Atlanta Street Vendors Fight Regulations Forcing Them Out of Business
- Posted on July 29, 2011 at 6:09am by
Meredith Jessup
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Travel to any major metropolitan area in the United States and you will undoubtedly see some of the country’s fastest-growing entrepreneurial opportunities: street vending.
The option to trade in an expensive storefront for a cheaper, more mobile business option has attracted many business owners to parking lots and street corners once reserved only for hot dog vendors. Nowadays, you can get everything from kabobs to cupcakes to-go out of the back a food truck. But many American cities are cracking down on these novelty businesses to prevent competition with brick-and-mortar establishments and to collect revenues from renting out public spaces.
In Atlanta, Larry Miller and Stanley Hambrick have made names for themselves with their well-known vending businesses located just outside the Atlanta Braves baseball stadium. Although their businesses create jobs and cater to customers, the city of Atlanta recently decided assign a single company to regulate all public-property vending. Now, that company is threatening to squash Miller and Hambrick’s businesses to build rented kiosks so the city can collect rent of almost $20,000 a year:
Miller and Hambrick’s story is not unique. Many American cities have set up roadblocks to this expanding business option, including a number that have approved anti-competitive restrictions on vending.
To protect the economic liberty of all Georgians, Larry and Stanley have joined with the Institute for Justice to challenge Atlanta’s vending monopoly. Their lawsuit, filed today in the Superior Court for Fulton County, Georgia, is the second case in the Institute’s National Street Vending Initiative.
In a recently released report, the Institute for Justice looked at America’s 50 largest cities and found that the majority of them have multiple onerous regulations on vendors:
- Eleven of these cities ban vending on public property for some or all goods, limiting the places where vendors can sell and forcing them to partner with private property owners to operate—or to vend anyway and face fines or worse.
- In 33 large cities, entire areas are off-limits to vendors, often including potentially lucrative areas such as downtown commercial districts or streets around sporting venues.
- Twenty major cities ban vendors from setting up near brick-and-mortar businesses selling the same or similar goods.
- Five of the 50 largest cities prevent mobile vendors from stopping and parking unless flagged by a customer, making it difficult for vendors to establish regular stops or easily connect with buyers.
- In 19 large cities, mobile vendors may stay in one spot for only small amounts of time, forcing vendors to spend much of their time moving instead of selling.
Click here to learn more about city regulations on street vendors across the country.
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Comments (109)
jessieH
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:12amHow about we go to the “barter system” and say to hell with the federal government.
Report Post »dthomps6
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:33amThat sounds awesome to me! How about we let the feds go bankrupt and just go back to being 50 independent countries.
Report Post »GUT_CHECK
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:48amWHATCHA SMOKIN’ JESSIEH?
who woulda guessed that one of the powers in the constitution is for the federal government to employ a sound currency to enable trade between unlike businesses and parties.
go back to smokin’ yer stuff.
while yer at it dummy, try to figure out what yer gonna barter for yer next tank of gas. and if you say “gold and silver” then you just began (once again) to rely on the constitutional power of weights and measures. if yer gonna barter something else for iyer gas and raspberry zingers, stop by a pawn shop so i can quickly swipe my debit card.
awizard
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 11:32am@GUT_CHECK; Dude you need to get out of the city more … Around here “We” barter for a lot of stuff, I can get most of what I need without spending a dollar … And the dollars I need I can trade for without the “government” being involved, wake up dude … The states have been taking too much for a lot of years now, so “We” just quit dealing with em …
“They”( state and local government ) have been harassing street vendors for years now, this is nothing new, locally “They” shut down a lunch wagon that used to show up outside a large production plant down in the city … The “Given” reason?.. “Their oven did not comply with ‘new’ city regulations” although it did when they bought it … The “Real” reason?.. One of the newly elected commissioners has a stake in a pizza shop half a mile away.
Nothing to see here … Move along …
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:15pmI have to say I do like it better.. have done it a few times and works fine for all involved..
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 1:13pmCompetition is GOOD…It can bring the prices DOWN.
Report Post »Just in time
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 6:44pmLove it just absolutely love it. Bartering means you brake even. That means no profit. No profit no taxes
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:06amThe phrase “anti-competitive“ or ”anti-trust” is misleading. As the following article notes, the term “competition” was turned on its head to punish those companies which did so well serving their customers, that government gave them artificial competitiveness through government monopoly power – that’s right, government became the creator of monopolies through “anti-trust” legislation.
See here.
Anti-trust, Anti-truth
http://mises.org/daily/436
And regarding barter vs. currency: You don’t need the Fed, central banks, banks with government privileges, or any fiat money, to have sound currency. The following video explains a lot about this topic.
Smashing Myths and Restoring Sound Money | Thomas E. Woods, Jr.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAzExlEsIKk
daddy warbucks
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:01amTheir ‘regulatory /police’ is very dangerous and must be dismantled around the world locally by locals, but the locals must first understand how and why they are being ‘corralled’.
got property? Have even checked what Agenda 21 is about?
EPA ALONE is handing out grants in the BILLIONS every year to progressive left NWO compliant shills
Out of control massive funding& massively growing Regulatory& ‘Federal’ police state; TSA, HLS, DEA, FBI, ATF, EPA, FDA etc
it has been and IS about ‘Cloward and Piven’
have you forgotten?
They know exactly what they are doing and they keep your focus on and going from one news bulletin to another.
All the while continuing to put the police/regulatory state in place, then the ‘event’ , then ‘martial law’, then no more pesky elections
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:02pmin due time,…
I will be the one,….
enforcing ‘martial law’,…
on MY OWN property.
and the posted signs shall read as follows:
“IF you can read this,…
Report Post »And/or you see a little red dot,…
YOU”RE IN RANGE, AND I DON”T CALL 911 …
Salamander
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:56amWhen are we going to recognize and outlaw the use of government structures by business entities to further THEIR agenda on an unsuspecting public! Look at GE and the legislation to outlaw the incandescent light bulb! Basically, GE didn’t have the desired profit margin on incandescent bulbs. New technologies have been developed–GREAT! But, these new technologies have issues, cost, reliability, hazmat substances, spectrum, etc., and the buying public (free market) wasn’t buying the features being promoted by GE! So, what does GE do, but come up with a ‘polically correct/green’ argument, using the right arithmetic but the wrong math (it adds up, but it doesn’t model the problem), and then it goes to the government to get our ignorant and misinformed (i.e., malleable) legislators to pass a law favoring their business! Business and government have become far to cozy with one another–to the severe detriment of the public! We have a privileged few manipulating our government to steer the masses in a roundup–just like driving steers to market!
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:03pmThese people are not interested in helping anyone but themselves.
They are not interested in protecting or providing for OTHER people’s
FREEDOM to PURSUE LIFE, LIBERTY OR HAPPINESS,
they are only interested in CONTROLing others for their own benefit.
Just say NO to Gov. ANYTHING.
Report Post »harumph
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:46amIf I have a mobile business, but I park in front of a brick-and-mortar competitor who has paid to be at that location, am I justified in doing so?
Report Post »Salamander
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:00amHey, Mr. Brick and Mortar–the brick and mortar isn’t your problem, it’s the property taxes you pay on your brick and mortar! Set up a truck in front of your own business to handle the lunch overflow and your problem goes away! Better yet, work out a deal with the lunch truck to serve YOUR food during the busy hour and move to another location during the slack times! Better yet, brand the truck with YOUR logo and get free advertising as he drives around town, setting up in locations that wouldn’t support your business! The reason the trucks are there is that people are buying from them! This suggests that there is something wrong with YOUR business model!
Kevin
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:09amYes, it’s all about free enterprise! It’s left up to the choice of the consumer. What would be the difference if you set up a brick and mortar right next to the business in question? Granted as a mobile vendor, your overhead/fixed cost should be lower than the traditional brick and mortar, meaning you could offer a product at a reduced cost. BUT, depending on the product, in the end it comes down to quality and service. That’s what free enterprise is all about.
Report Post »If the cities in question have a problem with this, instead of banning them from certain areas, charge an extra fee for a mobile license.
atechgeek
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:30amI’ve said it for years .. Hire a conservative and fire a liberal.
Report Post »Don’t just leave it to the elections.
Make them suffer to change their minds.
Fina Biscotti
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:08amIn New Orleans, henchman were sent out – to force vendors – some brick-and-mortar vendors – at the Airport, Jaxx Brewery shopping center, RiverWalk – to provide 35% of ownership of their business – to African-Americans.
EXTORTION scheme was an OPEN SECRET – eventually was placed under investigation.
Victims of these extortion schemes – while Marc Morial was Mayor of New Orleans – were intimidated by thugs to not go any further. Investigation was closed down – bc victims and witnesses backed-out.
One company filed a racketeering complaint in federal court against Marc Morial as Mayor of New Orleans, Lillian Regan and other people in his administration – involved in revoking their business licenses under FALSE PRETENSES – as the corrupt means to force the company to give up part ownership of their business. First trial was a mistrial – w one of the jurors bought off.
Thereafter, defendants Marc Morial, Lillian Regan obviously worked something out w USDC Judge Ginger Berrigan – placed federal court case in her own court – instead of random re-allotment. Berrigan dismissed case – w/o notice – w/o having a hearing on the merits of the case.
Berrigan’s husband was appointed to Aviation Board during Morial Administration – evidenced by his name on plaque hanging at Airport; Lillian Regan = paid employee of Berrigan’s federal court – as a translator = TWO matters that should have prevented Berrigan from “touching” the case.
New Orleans = #2 Most Corrupt City;
Report Post »GardenoftheGods
Posted on July 30, 2011 at 4:04pmAMEN! Time to stop all the government “HELP” based on anything besides merit. End POLITICAL CORRECTNESS now; and really help all Americans to get back on their feet! Corruption will be the death of us all…
Report Post »flfshrmn
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:05amAll of this is very easily avoided……..STOP ELECTING LIBERALS. That will solve 80% of the hypocrisy and stupidity we are exposed to by our law makers. We have a living example of this as our President right now!
Report Post »Realman30
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:24amNo truer words were ever posted.
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:19pm“STOP ELECTING LIBERALS”
Indeed, BECAUSE not one of U.S. can save a determined drug-addict from overdosing…
Report Post »NOR can we save the ‘poor’ for being ‘poor’ BECAUSE most of them suffer from POVERTY OF MIND, more than anything.
o2nine17
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:47amVendors who operate withn the law do pay all the taxes they should, sales, property (the vehicle is taxable as is the equipment which added to the value of the vehicle) and federal income tax. so why are then any different than a donut shop ? The state just needs to be sure they follow all health and safety regulations and pay their taxes. Just let them decide how they earn a living !!!
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:16amYou make sense in your reply. Why does the Blaze Poll reflect that the city has no right to regulate street vendors when the storefronts carry the load. ?? We can’t have it both ways.
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:16pm“We can’t have it both ways.”
Indeed, but most peeps don’t want to pay taxes in the 1st place, and
in the second place, most of us want less Gov. interference in their lives, hwever,…..
WE should all be careful of what we wish for, for… in the very near future, WE will ALL
have to fig. out how to live,… WITHOUT any Gov. at all, local OR Federal.
Got Chickens? Get some. Now.
Report Post »Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:42amAtlanta has beren heading “souuth” for 25 years. To hire a “company” to regulate the street vendors only illustrates the inability of the city government to do its job. EVERY juridsiction has been on a binge for the past 20 years. Every agency has new facilities, training areas, new equipment and keep harping that tnhe only alternative to taking cops or firemen off the payroll is to raise taxes. How much tax revenue is generated off vacant lots, and parking lots. All the while anyone that uses multiople suppluers may vendors scattered to hell and back. CFL anyone?
Report Post »BrerRabbit
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:41amI will not trade with street vendors. It is the brick and mortar folks who are paying the property taxes and contributing to the community.
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 11:54amThe absolute TRUTH.
Report Post »BlueStrat
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 3:50pmI will deal with a street vendor and/or an online seller over a brick-&-mortar establishment every single time, as I don’t want to “feed the beast” that is the government through taxes, license fees, etc etc.
There is too much government, as it has itself repeatedly (and sometimes violently) demonstrated by government’s own over-regulatory, confiscatory, abusive, and intrusive policies and practices. I will do everything I can to legally starve the beast. I will trade goods & services with my neighbors rather than deal with currency every chance I get. Unless the government is able (we know they’d be willing) to keep ~330 million people under close 24/7/365 surveillance, it cannot prevent it.
Report Post »pgjw56
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:34amSo the brick and mortar buisness should pay property tax rent or purchase land and all the other fees and assesments the government collects and the street vendor should just squat? Not so much. The arguement about Amazon warehouse not paying sales tax, they do. Right here in Memphis, if a sale is made to Tennessee residents, tax is collected and reported. If a sale is made and delivered to Arkansas, why should Tennessee collect tax on that sale? It’s a sales and use tax. We have NO standing to control an Arkansas citizen.
How about planning and zoning ordnances? Street vendors get to ignore them? Without some regulation and control, chaos will reigne.
Report Post »Alfredo2131
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:59amI’m all for vendors peddling their wares in downtown areas. However, the number of vendors should be limited to a few per (corner, area, block. etc.). Along with a required permit they should show proof of insurance, assuming they are required to have insurance. Otherwise, I don’t think it unreasonable that they be required to at least have liability insurance. Which city agency checks a vendors products for safety, for recalled goods; or ensures proper handling/storage of hot/cold food and food items (condiments, candy, drinks, etc.)?
Report Post »michaelmoron
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:33amInsurance for what ???? Regulators are incompetent. Do you thing the Health department checks every hot dog stand every day to see if things are kept at proper temperature, or any other inspections ? NO they are not… But they are “licensed” and “regulated”. People get food poisoning from “Inspected” establishments all the time. People don’t need some “third-party” jack@ss sticking their noses in anyone’s business anymore. the USDA and FDA are worthless. The FDA approves poisons and toxins on a regular basis. They are usually “re-called” 6 months later.
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:44amNeither side is right in this case. Street vending should be illegal altogether. It is a nuisance. And if government owns property that is not needed for the public use, that property should be sold to private enterprise. If it is needed for public use, then it should be available for everyone, not just the vendor.
The whole idea of charging fees for the use of public property is insane. Why pay for something twice? It is a method and technique for government to double its size. Tollways are another example. Bondholders pay to build a road, and then those same taxpayers have to pay to use it. The government, meanwhile, takes the doubled tax revenues and builds more roads. The people get saddled with the debt.
Report Post »michaelmoron
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:11amThe only “nuisance” are those who want to stymie free enterprise. Someone should be able to buy a case of water and sell on the street at a profit. Someone should be able to buy a lawnmower and get to work. ALL WITHOUT LICENSES and PERMITS and INSPECTIONS and RULES and REGULATIONS and INSURANCE and all the other BS !!!!
Report Post »Tell ” THIRD-PARTY” Jack@sses to keep their big, fat, ugly noses out of people’s Business.
subsailor
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:35amGreat story, but come on Blaze. What 3rd grader wrote the story, and what 2nd grader proofed it?
Report Post »I actually had a hard time reading the article due to the horrendous amount of errors in spelling and grammar. I would be embarrassed to print this garbage. This looks as though it was written by someone who up until now, has only texted, or twittered their stories. Shameful!!!
Arkonviox
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:38amA conservative wrote this article.
Report Post »sissykatz
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:50amSubsailor I think you could have gotten your point across if you simply said “Please Proof Read”.They will correct it and all will be fine. No need to rant do you think?
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:58amUnited States Submarine Sailors are the finest persons on the earth; smarter than most humans, and dedicated to getting things right the first time in an absolutely unforgiving operating environment. Thanks for your silent service, your extreme commitment and your obvious dedication to quality.
Silver dolphins or gold? (or SU)? Fast Attack or Boomer?
Fair winds, following seas…
Report Post »Hemingway in Cuba
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:35am@Subsailor: You have two comma splices in your comment. Please proof read. ;)
Report Post »RichNGadsden
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:32amThis is just more thoughtless, heartless government interference with it’s own tax base, and a hint of being bought off by a single larger business. Some local politicians are in a certain pocket.
Report Post »THOR6471
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:04amWell said!
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:08pm“Some local politicians are ….”
running the D@MN country!
Report Post »jedi.kep
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:25amOnce again, whoever gets in the govt’s pocket, gets the business. That is bull crap. If the street vendors can offer it cheaper, then let it be offered cheaper. Everyone should have the chance to make it in this country. Passing laws which prevent competition is wrong.
Report Post »ecurbyy
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:02amI grew up in the 50′s on the mean streets of Chicago. Expiration dates hadn’t been invented yet. If something looked funny or smelled bad, you didn’t buy it. I have so many memories of the street vendors lined up on Maxwell St. offering just about anything you could ever want or need. I miss the “good old days” and feel so lucky to have lived in America when we still had and were allowed to exercise our freedom to choose. Real change in 2012. Vote Ron Paul.
Report Post »poster
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:21amI can understand the fees. Imagine if you ran a brick and mortar business — say a restaurant. You must pay fees and taxes to the local government. The vendors don’t, making it an unfair expense situation for brick and mortars. Hell, they could even pull up to your business’s front door and sell to your customers. Either tax and fee them all, or tax and fee none of them. I think we all know what local governments would do.
Report Post »kralspaces
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:47amMost cities (regardless of size) already have vendor fees and sales taxes, etc.. The issue in most cities is location, location, location and traffic safety issues.
Report Post »kralspaces
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:56amOH!!!! and I forgot to mention lose of property taxes.
Report Post »RockstarRepublic
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:19amcompetition helps the consumer and spurs innovation. Corrupt government hates that idea.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:23amI would say to all street vendors: make a list of those responsible for trying to enforce all these regulations, find out where they live, then drag them out of their houses and hang ‘em!
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:16amWhen you fail to regulate vendors, your downtown may end up looking like Mexico City, then who will you call to clean it all up?
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:26amI don‘t think anyone is going to argue that there shouldn’t be any regulation with these vendors, it’s over regulation though that is the problem. Forcing them to rent kiosks, can’t stop to sell unless flagged down, only stay in one place for a short amount of time, etc. Smart regulation not over regulation.
Report Post »JesusFreak95
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:33amThere does have to be some reasonable limits to this. If a traditional shop has been established and followed the rules, paid their taxes and fees, etc. It doesn’t seem right that an upstart can setup shop right in front of them with practically no overhead and take their business away. The rules need to be consistent. We need competition, but it should be done fairly.
We have the same problem with “internet” based stores like Amazon who have setup warehouses in communities such as ours, but are not forced to collect sales tax. We need the jobs and I love Amazon, but they should have to collect and pay sales tax just like I do with my business, otherwise they have an unfair advantage, and they are enabling people to avoid paying taxes that are legitimately owed.
I am a Republican and I’m not in favor of higher taxes, but I also believe the rules need to be the same for everyone, and we must all pay our fair share. Our states and local governments have to be run efficiently and effectively, but they do require revenue to fund our schools, police, etc. We have to make sure the playing field is level and encourage responsible behavior.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:36amI think it’s also supply and demand. A lot of venders would prefer a store front, or mall but they can’t afford the cost of doing business. When a municipality is being overwhelmed with people wanting to do business, somebody needs to pay for the infrastructure. The most likely target is those who use it.
Report Post »Hemingway in Cuba
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:16amRegulatory utopia picture in Mexico City:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/372/mexicocity0mp.jpg/sr=1
Makes me shutter.
Sometimes a little unbridaled human creativty is the best answer.
“Compromise is a word found only in the vocabulary of those who have no will to fight — the lazy, the cunning, the cowardly — for they consider themselves defeated before they start.” St. Josemaria Escriva
Report Post »Hemingway in Cuba
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:24am@JesusFreak95 – I can completely empathize with you, but this is the cycle of free-markets and living in an entrepreneurial country. The brick-and-mortar store needs to be more agile.
Unions are perfect examples of groups that are too set in their ways. They cling to old ways of doing things, old technology, and to the government that enables them. Automation comes along that replaces a button-pusher and the petition their congressman to outlaw the purchase of automating machines or tax businesses who want to use them.
It is a dangerous mentality.
“Compromise is a word found only in the vocabulary of those who have no will to fight — the lazy, the cunning, the cowardly — for they consider themselves defeated before they start.” St. Josemaria Escriva
Report Post »michaelmoron
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:04pmI keep trying to respond. here is my 3rd and last try. Blaze also removed my original post. Regulations do much more harm than good when it comes to free enterprise. I could not pull a permit to PAINT on a building unless I had an ELECTRICAL contractors license. THAT is the problem. Too many corrupt bureaucrats !!!! I have seen things of this nature for 30+ years !!!!! It has got so bad you will get fined putting in a Mailbox for your elderly neighbor, because they consider digging a 24“ hole with post hole diggers ”contracting”.
Report Post »You need a license, Insurance, Permits, DOT numbers on your vehicle if you are coming to site with your pick-up truck ( yes, even a sole-proprietor must comply if ANY tools are in vehicle. ) An engineering approval costing $100. Then have final inspections. WHAT part of this do you think is not LUNACY ??????
clingingtogodandguns
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:10amWork for the govmt or don’t work at all.Real smart kill more jobs.This is coming from the top down.Good job Obummer.
Report Post »OhioRifleman
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:08amGovernment regulation is the foremost anti-competitive practice of all. Not far behind is unionization.
Gee, guess what the ******** want for us all?
A: more government, more regulation, more taxes, more useless government programs
B: less government, less regulation, less taxes, less useless government programs
If you guessed B, well, you seriously need to take the utopia-filtered facemask off and smell what you are shoveling. If you guessed A, well, this is the Blaze, so I’d expect that standard of proper conduct from you.
I’ve known street vendors, and they have it hard enough as is. Why can’t these cities just leave people the hell alone?
‘Nuff said.
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 11:58amThey WILL,…
when BOTH the local AND Fed Gov CEASES to ‘function’
Report Post »michaelmoron
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:03amI am A Businessman. I also drive a cab part-time, so I talk to business owners and average Joes. This is probably the #1 reason America is falling apart. Local, State, and Federal Regulations. I can’t even pull a permit to PAINT on a building in Florida, unless I have an ELECTRICAL contractor’s license. Window washers have to worry about code enforcement harassing and fining them.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:24amOK Moron, let use your analogy, why do we have taxi regulations?
Report Post »michaelmoron
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:31amNothing I stated here, is an Analogy. As long as My clients are covered by my insurance. The rest of my business is MY BUSINESS !!! The problem in the world is that not enough people get their @sses kicked !!!! I feel that is soon about to change !!!
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 3:15pmYou then would be supportive of the 16 year old out to make a couple of bucks, stop a guy from getting into your taxi and he drive that person for less. You’re perfectly ok with that?
Report Post »BlueStrat
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 4:05pm@Poverty.Sucks
“You then would be supportive of the 16 year old out to make a couple of bucks, stop a guy from getting into your taxi and he drive that person for less. You’re perfectly ok with that?”
If taxis are charging so high a rate, providing so little in the way of safety, courteous service, well-maintained & clean vehicles, or areas of service available, that a 16yo in a broke-down hoopty is preferable to a customer, let the customer have the freedom to make that choice.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:17pm@strat, my point is, Moron refuses to acknowledge that regulations protects his rights against someone else who fails to adhere to the same standards.
Report Post »BlueStrat
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:37pm@Poverty.Sucks
“…regulations protects his rights against someone else who fails to adhere to the same standards.”
No, the regulations protect the local taxi companies‘ monopoly against competition while filling the governments’ pockets all at the expense of the people.
Only having the “better mousetrap” in the form of a better-quality, lower-priced product in an open and free marketplace will assure he has a continuing job & income and assure the best possible products and services for people to choose from. It’s capitalism, and it’s proven itself the best economic system ever devised.
Report Post »michaelmoron
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:26pmTo answer your Question Povertysucks. I would love to go buy a town-car and get to work right away. I Could take business away from the 16 year old the old fashion way. I would earn it. I am a Libertarian. I am against someone robbing me, under the guise of “Regulations” for my own good. I believe in business the old way. A handshake. Not a five page, small-print contract loaded with hidden costs, stipulations and loopholes that are advantageous the the seller. The free market system is better than a government regulator. Do bad business? You will soon be out of business.
Report Post »You serve hot dogs at a clean stand for years with no food poisoning? then you will have a good reputation and succeed. Have a crappy, dirty stand that made someone sick last week? word will spread fast and you will have to move. It’s called the Law Of Nature. It’s repercussions are far less damaging to our Country than OVER regulation.
LadyIzShy
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:02amregulations will kill this nation
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:04pmhave,…..
“have killed.”
past tense
Report Post »louise
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 6:42amAtlanta will be changing her tune about this when there are absolutely no jobs left. That is when vending, bartering, and the entrepreneurial spirit takes center front stage.
Report Post »Let government be limited to the confines of our Constitution.
Then you can step aside, Uncle Sam, and allow us to live our lives.
poverty.sucks
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 6:31amExample as to why parents of little entrepreneurs are encouraged to learn the process of getting permits for Lemonade stands, the seasonal pumpkin sale ect…
Report Post »michaelmoron
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:27amPermit means Permission. No one needs Permission to operate a lemonade stand. Anyone who thinks they do, IS the PROBLEM !!!!
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:42amWhen somebody breaks their leg at your lemonade stand, you are going to wish you had a simple $2.00 permit that certifies the city approved of your location.
That is a fact, Mikey.
Report Post »Hemingway in Cuba
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:29am“…learn the process of getting permits for Lemonade stands..”
Shoot me now…get your gun permit and hunting license first. Plus you need to be 18 to buy the ammo and take a state-run hunting safety course. You’ll alow need a background check and have your taxes up-to-date.
Nevermind, don’t shoot me, it is too much work.
Report Post »michaelmoron
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:32pmBreaks a leg at a stand ?????? Are you for real ????? Let’s get rid of Vehicles because people get killed in them !!! I am old school. If I am on someones property and I fell in a hole or slipped and broke my leg, I would be embarrassed that I am that dumb. I would NEVER attempt to sue someone else for my own ignorance and incompetence. That is the Difference between a Libertarian and a Liberal !!!!
Report Post »michaelmoron
Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:36pmBTW. MONICNE What world do you live in, that a Permit ( permission, and does not include insurance ) would cost $2.00 ? And how much does SOROS pay you? I miss the Nancy Pelosi as a Clown, avatar. We know Boehner is a RINO. So him in a Pansy suit is OK.
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