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Attorney of Former Marine Detained for Facebook Posts Tells Beck: Psychiatrist Threatened to ‘Brainwash’ My Client With Meds

Attorney for Brandon Raub Says Psychiatrist Threatened to Brainwash Him With Meds, John Whitehead

Brandon Raub (Source: Facebook)

(UPDATE — Blaze Exclusive: ‘Orwellian’: Lawyer of Former Marine Over Facebook Posts Says 20k ‘Civil Commitments’ Each Year in VA Part of Bigger Problem)

Earlier today, 26-year-old former U.S. Marine Brandon Raub was released from a psychiatric facility via a judge’s order, who ruled that the government had no legal grounds to hold him.

Tonight on Glenn Beck’s show on GBTV, soon-to-become TheBlazeTV, John Whitehead, Raub’s lead attorney and president of the Rutherford Institute, gave his first interview following his client’s release to discuss the case.

Whitehead told Beck that he and his organization are planning to sue over a provision in Virginia state law that allows authorities to place a person in emergency custody and hold them for four hours unless a magistrate enters a temporary detention order (TDO). Raub was held under this law, specifically Va. Code § 37.2-808, for days.

“We are getting ready to file a civil lawsuit…because [Raub] has been put through hell for a week,” said Whitehead. But, he explained, “Under the civil commitment law in Virginia, the police can do this.”

From a previous Blaze report:

On August 20, Raub was sentenced to up to 30 days in a psychiatric facility after he was detained by federal law enforcement on August 16 over some Facebook posts that criticized the U.S. government and questioned the official story behind the 9/11 terrorist attacks. He also referred to “starting a revolution.”

Whitehead said that veterans have since been contacting him from across the country claiming they too were victims of wrongful detention in psychiatric institutes like Raub. Apparently, there are civil commitment laws in other states as well, he said.

“It happens. There’s about 20,000 civil commitments alone in Virginia each year,” he added.

It was actually Raub’s mother, who took to Facebook in a rage after he son was taken by federal and local law enforcement officers, that sounded the alarm and made the entire country aware of his situation.

“Did they have a warrant for his arrest?” Beck asked.

“No warrant for his arrest and no search warrant,” Whitehead replied. “They haven’t [charged him with a crime] and they’re not going to.”

Stunned, Beck asked how this could take place in the United States of America, where the Constitution provides protections from such things, most notably the First Amendment.

“Is this America,” the attorney said. “That’s what I keep asking.”

Attorney for Brandon Raub Says Psychiatrist Threatened to Brainwash Him With Meds, John Whitehead

John Whitehead (Source: Rutherford.org)

To be clear, Raub is a 9/11 “truther” and harbors some pretty questionable beliefs. However, as Beck explains, Americans should defend the free speech of even the people they disagree with. “I will stand with anyone on the left for their right to express themselves in a non-violent way… especially if I find it offensive, I will stand for their right to say it,” Beck said.

Further, in a surprising twist, Whitehead revealed a startling allegation that his client made regarding an incident that occurred before his release. Raub complained to his attorney that one of the psychiatrists that he was seeing threatened to “brainwash” him and force him to take medication.

“That really scared him,” he said.

After soaking in all that Whitehead had shared with him, Beck reflected:

“From what I know of this story, this is an outrage. There were some things that stick out to me — as flares of caution. But the one thing we should be reckless with is our defense of people who have opinions that we don’t agree with. I’ve never asked for a boycott, I’ve never asked for someone to be fired.”

He continued: “If we can’t meet on the battlefield of ideas, as George Washington said, If we can’t speak to each other openly, if we are paranoid and watching over our shoulder, we lose the essence of who we are and we will never be a great nation again… Buckle up, I have a feeling that this is going to be an interesting ride.”

Watch the entire Beck segment with Whitehead here:

This story has been updated. Front page image via Facebook.

Comments (237)

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  • Stelex
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:36pm

    Just a query BLAZE, if we have a first amendment right to speak, why do my post’s have to be approved by the BLAZE, why are some of my words censored. I’m not out to stir s h i t up, just curious. Censorship is censorship is it not???????

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    • HankTheAmerican
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:47pm

      The First Amendment right to free speech does not apply in situations where you are on private property, whether a guest or not. This site is not a city street or government building, it is a private forum where you are subject to the rules of the host.

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    • D-Fence
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:47pm

      The Blaze is not a public forum. As uch as you would like to think it is, it’s not. It’s a private website owned by a private sector company. They will allow you to write what they want. I don’t know how transparent it is.

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    • AnAmericanToo
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:55pm

      You fail to understand the First Amendment. STELEX — you have a First Amendment right to express yourself but not necessarily on this privately owned media forum. Additionally, there are limits on speech as imposed by the federal government so content may have to be formed in a civil manner of discourse.
      If you have an idea that you wish to express your views on — you can find another forum to express it. You are not entitled to use this specific forum for your expression. You can stand on your local street corner, open up a social network page, all — of course — conforming to the community conditions or the agreed upon usage terms of a social network page.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:00pm

      @Stelex

      Which words are you referring to. I don’t see any ******’s in any of your posts here.

      Are you complaining about an entire post not posting? Please reply. I’m trying to help.

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    • Melika
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:00pm

      Because you aren’t speaking, you are posting on a web site you don’t own. When you are paying for the bandwidth, you can post whatever you like.

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    • Wolfgang the Gray
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:26pm

      Stelex –

      “Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to express itself forcefully”. – Unknown
      “But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.” – Matthew 5:37

      As for the article, I wonder if this Marine will have his 2nd Amendment rights revoked because he now has on record that he was under mental evaluation? If this guy is held for days & mentally evaluated, how come the violent hate speech by those in the New Black Panthers are allowed to stay on the streets?

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    • Ballot_Box_Revolution
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 9:34pm

      Understand that the constitution IS a charter of NEGATIVE liberties on the GOVERNMENT, and the intention behind it and then everything will become clearer to you.

      “interest free money” BING it!!

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    • Johnnybravo
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 9:36pm

      You’re an idiot,,hey look it lets me post that..lol

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    • jzs
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:21pm

      Stelex, all these guys are right. The Constitution prevents the government from restricting your freedom of speech. The posters here are right, this website can post your comments or not or ban you altogether. Sorry, you’re wrong.

      I’m glad that some conservatives understand this, although it’s mostly situational.

      When there’s backlash against a conservative speaking his or her mind, suddenly that backlash is a violation of the person’s freedom of speech. When people boycotted Chick-fil-A Sarha Palin said that would have a “chilling effect on freedom of speech.” When all the companies stopped advertising on Beck’s former FOX show that was violating his “freedom of speech.” When Dr. Laura got dropped from her show that was violating her “freedom of speech.” Hank dropped from Monday night football? A violation of his “freedom of speech.” Michael Savage can’t travel to England for his hate talk? Another violation of First Amendment Rights. Limbaugh losing advertisers (still)? The same, violation of the First Amendment.

      So the Constitution says that the government can’t restrict your speech. But conservatives, because they don’t understand the Constitution, think that a conservative speaker can say whatever he or she wants, and if people protest or their advertisers kick them off the air, they’re violating “freedom of speech.” Conservatives don’t understand the Constitution.

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    • grayling646
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:09am

      Gawd, stelex. I hope you’re no more than 15 yrs old.

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    • stopspendingourmoney
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:20am

      Doesn’t allot of dems and repubs support the unconstitutional NDAA? Including Obama and Romney.

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    • resme
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 1:20am

      @themonk, I hope you are still awake, I’d like to get your opinion on this story.

      http://www.10news.com/news/31374150/detail.html

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    • k8ti
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 1:41am

      Wow….just wow! 1st amendment rights would rule over any state laws that say different.

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    • sillyfreshness
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 1:48am

      Facebook=ultimate government stooge spying mechanism

      Being locked up for political speech=what they used to do in the Soviet Union and what they are doing currently in the US

      Next “Birther” speech will land you in a psych ward. Why you would have to be “crazy” not to think Obama wasn’t born in the US. The Bolsheviks have a coup going on in front of our very eyes.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 2:07am

      The Blaze is finally reporting this story that I have been posting on here for days. This is the good old Patriot Act and NDAA that Bush and Obama signed into law and ROMNEY IS ALL FOR!! You people are going to be the cause of the fall of the United States of America. Start saying your goodbyes as it will come swiftly.

      Report Post » West Coast Patriot  
    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 3:01am

      The-Monk, What do you think of this story? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQvszfnOSY8&feature=youtu.be

      I think the RNC has become the DNC.

      Report Post » West Coast Patriot  
    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 3:48am

      The-Monk, I do not take credit, I posted below to you all the links from the beginning of this story, along with the statement from the Attorney at The Rutherford Institute, all from http://www.dailypaul.com/ where the truth actually lives. That was over an hour ago and it is still not there. I did post what I think below of The Blaze and their truth. If you want real news and want to see the Paul bashers lies exposed, go there and research. I am also the same handle there as here and their stories date back to 2007 and you can see all your posts from the beginning. ???

      Report Post » West Coast Patriot  
    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 4:09am

      The-Monk, The truth lives here seems to not be letting an important story on Romney get through, I have been trying several times and it is not here. Go to Daily Paul and scroll down. The article is from The Hill. Very interesting and possibly very damaging.

      Report Post » West Coast Patriot  
    • nzkiwi
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 4:17am

      @ West Coast

      I agree with your indignation over Ron Paul.

      The problem is that, if Mr Paul has 20% of the vote, then Mr Obama wins the contest. It really is that simple.

      What the republicans should be doing is persuading the Paul supporters of this simple fact, rather than this sleazy attempt to eject him by changing or misapplying the rules.

      The Romney campaign might adopt some of Mr Paul’s ideas (many of which make a lot of sense) in return for consolidating the vote behind Mr Romney. Mr Paul has previously said that his run is as much about getting his philosophy accepted as it is about the presidency.

      The RNC has behaved badly. That is a given. But isn’t a bit of compromise better than allowing Mr Obama a second term in which, make no mistake, he will do some real damage to your nation?

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 4:30am

      nzkiwi, Man, you guy’s just do not get it! Romney is not going to defeat Obama, Paul would! Paul brings to the table Bluedog Dems (I know a lot of them), he brings the youth vote that is so fervent for him, He would bring the Republicans like yourself, as all of you say you would vote anyone but Obama. That along with most Independents and all Paul supporters, walla.That is going to be needed to defeat Obama. Did you read the Rush story? That IS what we are up against. The Blaze is blocking a link that I am trying to post about a very damaging story on Romney from The Hill. Go here: http://www.dailypaul.com/ and scroll down. We should consider ourselves lucky this is out before the convention, but I doubt you will hear it on the media or The Blaze.

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    • Individualism
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 4:36am

      America is getting closer and closer to Nazi Germany. so who will be the groups in the camps?

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    • Stuck_in_CA
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 6:38am

      Shortly after seeing the interview with John Whitehead, I donated to the Rutherford Institute. Constitutional warriors like him, need all the help & support we can give them.

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    • Vegasdad702
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 6:51am

      @WESTCOASTPATRIOT- Well I did my homework, and you were right about the story being very damaging to Romney. Be that as it may, we are STUCK with Romney now regardless. Its a big old crap sandwich and we ALL have to take a bite! I am a Ron Paul delegate from Nevada. I would love NOTHING more then a Ron Paul Presidency. I agree with you that commen sense tells us that there is NOTHING that suggest Romney will be better then Obama. We do KNOW Obama will be horrible, and we don’t YET know how bad Romney will be. But he can’t be worse. GOD I HOPE I DON’T EAT THOSE WORDS. But man, im just so over all of it. RP supporters are marginalized, were called crazy, we do more HOMEWORK then 90% of the people out here, and people dont listen to us because the Main Stream is EVERYWHERE!! Mr. Beck is a hero of mine, and I believe his heart is genuine. But after stories like this, and more and more OBVIOUS set ups, take downs, and detainments of Ron Paul people im just DONE. I feel just like that guy that called Mr. Beck all tgose years ago, saying he was just gonna tune out. I have a duty to pay attention, but as the saying go’s- “In a democracy the people get the government they deserve.”. People still don’t even know who Bernays was yet. I know were a Republic that is in down grade, and somedays I feel very good because of the great people and hearts of my neighbors, but TO MANY are still playing the RIGHT VS LEFT game. God help our Country, and may peace and providence bring us home

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    • CABERNETQHS
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 7:50am

      @STELEX
      If your juvenile protests are rejected… boo-hoo:(
      How about the fact he was detained without reason and threatened with brainwashing, over what? Is this the Twilight Zone?

      @JZS
      You are a misguided windbag.

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 7:56am

      Stel,
      The Blaze is a PC Nazi Censorship machine. They do not give a rat’s ass about your right to free speech. They are ultra sensitive PC goons that will chop up your post like soup celery. I love the boards where you can speak freely. The Blaze is not one of them. But, I come here because the folks here are like me ideologically. That’s it.

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 8:00am

      My only question to all of the above touting how you don’t have the right to voice un-censored opinions on this site is : “what are you afraid of?” Have you really drank that much PC koolaid? What, are you afraid of being insulted or of seeing a cuss word? What are you going to do if bullets start flying , crap in your pants?

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    • btshepard
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 8:02am

      BRAINWASHING is what psychiatry is all about – it has always been about brainwashing and psych hospitals form a network of extrajudicial political prisons. Sites such as sntp(dot)net tell the scary details. Drug company ads for doctors will say “this drug causes a subtle reorganizing of thought patterns”. If that is not brainwashing then what is it? People really need to wake up. You don’t hear of most of these events because – once successfully brainwashed – people taken away are never heard from again.

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    • btshepard
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 8:08am

      Psychiatry is BRAINWASHING. Psych hospitals form a network of extrajudicial prisons where people can disappear and be held indefinitely. Sites such as sntp(dot)net tell the horrible truth about the brainwashing drugs which are also used on the prisoners at Guantanamo. People really need to wake up to this stuff because you could be next.

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    • www.TopTheNews.com
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 8:31am

      We don’t censor, but then again, nobody really comments.

      Although it is private, I agree it is hypocrtical…

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    • rangerp
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 9:09am

      Is it just me, or does something just sound real strange on this one?

      Hey, I am as anti big government as anyone you will find. I do not like the big unions, high taxes, multicultural education, socialist healthcare…….

      Something just smells fishy on this one. The lawyer is throwing some pretty big claims about conspiracy stuff against service members getting held in the nut house. I would think other military members would know a little about this if it was happening.

      His client the orange haired, sword owning, revolutionary looks like a all out moon bat, that might just go on a shooting rampage. He looks more OWS than Tea Party. I hate to pass judgement from a few pics, but once again, I just get some bad vibes on this one.

      Remember, the left is always trying to find someone that is an NRA member, veteran, Christian…. that goes on a rampage, so they can point their finger at the rest of us, and have a legit reason to take guns, and implement more gov restrictions.

      Be careful who you hold up as a hero, or as one of us.

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    • johnpaulkuchtajr
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 9:34am

      If you‘d like to let Virginia’s Attorney General and candidate for Governor know how you feel about his being AWOL during this Constitutional crisis, why not contact his campaign manager at

      noah@cuccinelli.com

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:09pm

      VegasDad, Get into the convention and do your best for Ron Paul. This is a political war that we are in right now. The best we can do is make our voices heard for as many in the world to hear as possible. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1D1WPEupRg&feature=youtu.be

      The people will wake up eventually as more and more liberties are stripped and their way of life continues to fade to nothing. Stay strong. Do your best. We are up against evil, remember this. It is not just Obama and the Democrats, in fact I know a lot of Democrats that are Patriots, it is in the Republican Party also. Mitt Romney is an evil puppet but is good at deception. Liberty will prevail, unfortunately after a lot of pain.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:53pm

      The-Monk, I noticed your post to me is gone, what happened? It makes it look like I am answering nothing. Let us wake up, although it could be too late.

      Report Post » West Coast Patriot  
    • dogmeat
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 1:24pm

      Censorship has nothing to do with RULES of CONDUCT!

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 1:36pm

      Dogmeat, What is your point? I have not violated any rules of conduct. I was censored because of a link to a report, from The Hill of all places, that is damaging to Romney that the Dems will use against him. I thought all of you should be aware of what is coming. The-Monk was just saying that since I think I get the facts first, maybe I should start my own site, he was being sarcastic toward me. The Blaze is not the truth like it says, it is another establishment reporting machine. I am sure the links to this info was put into their program to not allow as they do not want you to see it. Daily Paul will not censor.

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    • IsThereADifference
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 1:37pm

      I will NOT vote for that PROGRESSIVE FRAUD MITT ROMNEY. I will ONLY VOTE RON PAUL. PERIOD.

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    • annelouisegelinas
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 1:38pm

      You do know that all editors have the right to censor and edit any written word that any of us
      write. It is probably one of those rights editors get because they are editors.
      My problem is that some editors are tricky in that they know how to put words in an order to make things sound like …..but not be the real words that tell the whole truth. It is easy when you are a master at the English language to put your thoughts into someone else’s words. That is where Americans must be watchful. Do not ever let someone tell you what they think you said or wrote or what it means. Only you know what you think or what you said or what you wrote and what it’s meaing is. Don’t be tricked by false editing. It has been going one for a very long time.

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    • Freebird
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 1:43pm

      I exchanged some interesting emails with one of the mods on here.Seems their policy states the usual,no profanity or attacks on other posters,etc.

      However if you happen to be a God-hater or atheist,you can pretty much post whatever you like against God.I tried to get a reasonable answer to this,but alas was sorely disappointed.

      @Hank
      Just curious,are you one of the moderators on here? I noticed you just signed up like yesterday. And this is your first comment?

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 6:23pm

      With regard to censorship…

      Some time ago I became so frustrated with the censorship at the Blaze that I delivered a rather pointed post (which was not pulled) and cast unseemly aspersions on Blaze CEO Betsy Morgan (for which I again apologise) and left in a huff.

      I also attempted to contact Glenn Beck, as he is a staunch supporter of free speech, but I don’t know if he received my email.

      One is invited to “speak your mind” so it is a little disappointing when comments are pulled.

      In the end I ate humble pie and came back because the conversations here are more intelligent and informative than at most other sites. And, to be fair, the censorship is not as bad now as it was.

      It is, of course, their site but it can be irritating, and, at the end of the day, principles matter.

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    • Vegasdad702
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 8:27pm

      @WestcoastPatriot- VERY, VERY GOOD LINK MY FRIEND!!! It just so happens that I am a HUGE fan Of Mahatma and the movie of his struggle and life is simply AMAZING! Gandhi in my humble opinion is a modern day Jesus Christ. Now as far as going to Tampa to fight for Ron Paul, I ADMIRE your grit and determination. I hope and pray that more Americans will wake up! I am a county Delegate, NOT a state Delegate, so I have no seat, or place at this convention. Our victory here in Nevada was winning the 23 of 25 county commission seats, and defeating the Romney strong hold on local politics. We adapted new rules that force ANY and ALL laws here HAVE to comply with the Constitution. We have done some GREAT things for the cause of LIBERTY in this state, all thanks to hardworking PATRIOTS like yourself and the LIBERTY message. As far as beating the status quo, I am skeptical. Have you studied Bernays as Mr. Beck suggested?? If you have you would have seen the marriage of BOTH political parties and Media a hundred years ago. For 100 years these men have created a power structure to control the public, something I believe you FULLY understand. Now I ask you- Do you really think any ELECTION would make they hand over the power?? Do you see the powers that be saying-” You ran a great campaign, you won, heres the mantle of power. You won fair and square.”?? I am willing to stand in that line of truth, PEACEFULLY like Gandhi did, but this story is proof that the controllers are silencing us!

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    • sophillyjimmy
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 10:48pm

      The first amendment doesn’t give We The People Carte Blanche when it comes to what we say Stelex. For instance, we cannot threaten to kill or harm another person or his property and we can’ yell out fire in a crowded venue to start a panic, and in forums such as The Blaze we agree to their policies before we could make comments, and when we violate those policies we could be censored.
      I am a firm believer in our Constitution but I also follow the laws that pertain to the Constitution and I do know what I could say and what I can’t say, and the same is true when we make comments in these kind of forums, and although I also don’t always adhere to their policies, I don’t complain when I go beyond their policies and then am censored for doing so.

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    • scherzophrenic
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 11:13pm

      And yet, here is your query for all to read!

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    • CitizenForFreedom
      Posted on August 25, 2012 at 6:32pm

      Stelex. I can understand your frustration, but as many posters have stated, this is a private site. It appears employees and/or partners of this site have responded back appropriately to your comment. This is my first post on this site. I will state this; I have seen on many other sites the censorship of opinions that do not coincide with the site owners. That is sad. That means those sites only want their opinion expressed and will SUPPRESS others posters opinions. This in turn will keep their opinion as the only valid one. But, my guess from your post, you may tend to use inflammatory language. I could be wrong, just my perception. But, a real site that looks for truth, will NOT suppress ideas different than their own. This would show the sites willingness to be open minded for all views and the discussions progress. Again, this is their choice.

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    • PJ Smith in Texas
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 2:34pm

      I kinda like Trace Adkin’s explanation.
      “Excuse me
      First amendment?
      Son, the first amendment protects you from the government
      Not from me
      You can say whatever you want to out there
      You come within reach of me
      I‘ll exercise my right to give you a good ol’ country ass whoopin’
      Is what I’ll do for you
      By God”

      Make sense now?

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    • PJ Smith in Texas
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 2:46pm

      CITIZENFORFREEDOM:
      We are responding to the post from STELEX. Why would he be frustrated?
      He or she is free to start their own blog and say any wise or silly thing they wish. Probably won‘t have Beck’s audience though.

      Maybe that’s it! ” I want to say anything I want, but you, Glenn Beck must do the work and pay the bills to get me an audience to address.“ Or maybe it should be ”worthy for me to address”.

      Wow. Great situation if you can get it. Does sound familiar though . . . . I‘ll just sit here bein’ me, while you work your buns off and pay . . . .

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  • aliswell
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:32pm

    20,000 “civil” commitments (gov’t sanctioned kidnapping) each year in Virginia alone? And Mr. Whitehead is receiving reports now from vets all over the country that they’ve undergone the same kidnappings? This is insane.

    This needs to be addressed not just through litigation, but some serious jail time and fines for the perps involved. This appears to be less about laws needing to be changed than about individuals drunk on power and obviously feeling very protected by the current government to conduct crimes against American citizens, particularly veterans.

    Prosecute, prosecute, prosecute!

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    • slr4528
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:08pm

      Where is Congress regarding this issue??????????????

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    • AZindependent
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:39pm

      Where was Ron or Rand Paul or Jim Demint and other “liberty loving” politicians. Very disappointed with Ron Paul on this one, and I am a “Paulbot” supporter.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:14pm

      AZIndependant-
      What could Ron Paul do? He doesn’t represent that state. He voted against the NDAA. He was one of 3. 3 people in the government can’t stop the commie take over. Where is the Virginian militia protecting their citizens? Cops are not your friends. The FBI are not your friends. They are there to take your liberty, not protect it.

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    • AZindependent
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 1:07am

      I think he could have spoken up about it. This happened right next to D.C. no doubt it made the DC news. Campaign for Liberty had to know about the case. These guys should have said something in public about Brandon’s abduction and illegal commitment to a hospital psych ward. RP is now a true lame duck with his retirement just a few months from now, so I guess I shouldn’t expect too much from him at this point.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 2:16am

      AZINDEPENDENT, I have been posting this story since it broke last week!! Nobody on here even commented on it, as if they just wanted to stay blind, but now that THE BLAZE reports, everyone is up in arms? It has been all over dailypaul.com, where you get the real news, on time! If this does not wake all of you up to the dangers of the Patriot Act and the NDAA, that Bush and Obama signed into law and your (conservative????) Romney is all for, then there is not going to be any hope for the US of A.

      AZ, there is nothing that Paul could have done, everyone thinks he is crazy, when he is the most sane of all the candidates combined. The RNC has become the DNC with election fraud, and everyone must be OK with that!! The latest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQvszfnOSY8&feature=youtu.be

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    • AZindependent
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 8:22am

      Daily Paul is not a press conference from Ron Paul or Rand Paul. I too have been on this story since the beginning posting it all over the place and emailing info to many youtube commentators. The silence from ALL politicians (left, right) was deafening. I expected something from the few who warned of the NDAA. Something from the man who started the Campaign for Liberty.

      Take the time to read this “poem” at “Washington’s Blog” follow all the links:
      “I Was Silent When They Came for You … So There Was No One Left to Help When They Came for Me”
      http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/08/because-i-was-silent-when-they-came-for-others-when-they-came-for-me-there-was-no-one-left-to-speak-out.html

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  • Endstatism
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:25pm

    I think Raub should file a federal civil rights lawsuit against the police department and the FBI along with the individual officers. They need to be held accountable for this gross violation.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 4:16am

      The Courts & Government… Selectively Select what Laws are being Enforced… in this Reality!

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  • CrismaFire
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:14pm

    Notice they aren’t trying to suppress the New Black Panther leader who wants to kill ******* babies.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:21pm

      @CrismaFire

      You have to say it like this “c r a c k e r”.

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    • mrsuperpat
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:23pm

      Thats because that is a Fed operation, just like it came out that White Supremacist radio talk show host Hal Turner was a paid FBI informant which lead to the Hutaree Militia arrests. JUST LIKE ALEX JONES SAID that Turner was an operative and that the Hutaree would be arrested because a FED was provacateering.

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    • crackerone
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 9:21pm

      What the heck is wrong with the word *******?

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:21pm

      @crackerone

      Nothing oh Saltine one… : )

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  • The-Monk
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:12pm

    And guess what fellow Blazers….. You heard it here first.

    Beck is the only person to bother to interview the attorney.

    So please be more thoughtful of what Beck, GBTV and The Blaze is doing. They bother to research a story before they post it. And in this case they went straight to the source. I wouldn’t be surprised if Brandon is on GBTV before any other news outlet. : )

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    • WAKEUPUSA2012
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:28pm

      Yeah just a couple years after he called truthers the most dangerous people in America. Again dont get me wrong im happy he is supporting this, but Beck and GBTV have not always been so open minded. And FYI I heard a interview with this lawyer 3 days ago from some site infowars linked 2.

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    • mrsuperpat
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:37pm

      Yeah that interview was on RT

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    • Polarized America
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:01pm

      If i’m not mistaken, the attorney.said in the video that he wrights stuff for the huff & puff site
      Beck should hire him to do the same for theblaze

      on a side note … did you notice that beck seemed a little surprised, i wonder if it was because the attorney.said that this kind of crap was also going on under Bush
      Beck will tell you that its not only the Ds–but the Rs as well. well Beck why don’t you start reporting on them….. cuz it‘s really the Gov’t in general .. i believe Romney will get in. but will things be better hummmm we’ll have to wait and see

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:29pm

      @WAKEUPUSA2012
      “And FYI I heard a interview with this lawyer 3 days ago from some site infowars linked 2.”

      Since Brandon was just released today… I doubt the attorney had anything to say until AFTER his client was released.

      Got a “video” link to that “3 day old” interview? I’ll trust that it happened when I see it.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 2:29am

      The-Monk, I just posted the truth to you, but it will take a while to post, if it posts at all. Be patient.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 2:42am

      All Blazers, You see, The Blaze says “The Truth Lives Here” but in reality, it lives on http://www.dailypaul.com/
      You can go there and see stories all the way back to 2007! You can find me and my posts, every single one of them from the first post I ever wrote. You can click on my handle (the sme handle as on here) and read them all. The stories have the picture to make it easier to find. Why does The Blaze not do the same? Why does The Blaze only let you see the last ten posts? They want you to let it fade into the past. I urge all of you to check out The Daily Paul and you will see the truth. All the Paul bashers lies can be found out by researching The Daily Paul. I am not sure if The Blaze will allow this post, but I will cut and paste and continue to try if they block it. Wake Up and learn the truth.

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  • Stelex
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:11pm

    Wanna see what Government meds do……look at the Colorado shooter. He’s been medicated from day one. He was doped up and just sitting next to his car after a supposed shooting spree. Don’t you think if you just went on a shooting spree your adrenalin would be off the chart. Yet this guy is sitting next to his car ……dazed. Not to mention the gas mask they found on the other side of the parking lot and in an amazing coincidense the nurse who treated most of the patients ( and probably heard most of their stories) mysteriously drowns last week I’m not a tinfoil hat guy but I do recognize patterns. .

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    • mikeiyc
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 9:32pm

      Your 100% right. Black flags happen all the time. And that includes 9-11 and the Oklahoma city bombing.

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    • lefty5005
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:15pm

      I would not put anything above the Federal government. The power goes straight to their heads and they justify it with “it’s in the better interest of the United States.” No, it’s in the better interest of whomever is running the executive branch at the time. Obama just goes right around Congress and if it goes to the SCJ, well we see what happened there. We got to pray Romney has more to him than he has shown and that we can get 2 conservative judges on the SC before 2016 because even if Romney is elected and we have Republicans running the show, everything will be challenged and will go to the SC where they will vote 5-4 every time in favor of the dark side. John Roberts is just another Breyer. Sotomayer and Kagan are about as qualified as I am for the job and I am not a lawyer. PC is killing the country and continues to do so and along with the Pravda media my blood pressure is going up, I got to get off my soapbox.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:17pm

      Don‘t forget the bloody footprints that didn’t head to the vehicle, but to wear the gas mask was found. Did the supposed shooter have blood on his shoes?

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  • Tipdog
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:11pm

    Did he or did he not make some comments that in this day and age if he’d not been detained and went and actually acted on them, would have been the exact same thing were complaining about the government not taking action on? You can’t have it both ways. Either you want the government to follow up on wacko’s who potentially can bust in a theater and kill a bunch of people, or you dont. Which is it?

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    • Stelex
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:15pm

      Two different groups of people. Sheeple want the gov to step in and do pre crime arrests in the name of safety. People understand your innocent until proven guilty. Especially if no actual crime has been executed. Which one are you???????

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    • Tipdog
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:16pm

      This is one of those lines. Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. Do I agree with it? No, not really. Our country is in such a mess now with NDAA and (it will never be used against the citizens) mentality, that it has no choice but to. Every law made is made against the citizens. Government has become so massive that it lives in a world where it is no longer afraid of it’s citizens, the We The People.

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    • Tipdog
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:17pm

      The better question is, which are you…

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:18pm

      government taking action doesnt mean they have to take people away without warrants. From what i understand, the government didnt even search his home….This was not an investigation, it was a signal

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    • Stelex
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:26pm

      Tip….You post confuses me. So your rational is people are so messed up government has to step in????? WTF. It aint the people that are messed up, well not most.

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    • AnAmericanToo
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:13pm

      I don’t care that the man made some comments that were apparently taken out of context from the total page that this young man had. He stated he was against violence and the alleged hostile language was taken from a stupid song.

      The problem is 1) NO warrant for the arrest of this man; and 2) NO SEARCH WARRANT for his property.

      Law enforcement is supposed to function within the LAW of the land. This means that in taking action they MUST do so within the laws of the land with deep respect of protecting the constitutional rights. People who seek security over liberty will end up with neither.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:33pm

      @AnAmericanToo

      This was a Facebook post. So how did the Government get that Facebook post?

      Oh yea, Robert Gibbs left the White House and went to Facebook about 2 years ago… : (

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:20pm

      how bout this, they monitor the guy to see if he is acting on words. You know, an actual plot. Something they could have gotten a warrant for. They snatched this guy from his home and held him without charge. Threatened to forcibly put him on medication….Yeah, thats an Amerika we can believe in.

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    • Smokey_Bojangles
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:32pm

      “I hope the Government tosses the Constitution aside to protect me from Truthers,” said no one ever.

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    • CitizenForFreedom
      Posted on August 25, 2012 at 7:18pm

      @ The-Monk. I read in one of the several articles on Brandon, that a concerned friend from Facebook, called the authorities worried about what Brandon might do. But, don’t get me wrong, I am all but positive the government monitors all internet chatter. But that is their official statement. Screw them. I have followed this story within the first hours of its inception. I may have read every single article. I have become obsessed with it, due to my fear of the NDAA Section 1021. At first glance of his posts on Facebook, I was concerned. When I read sharpen the axe… and the revolution and… I was concerned for his safety as well as others. This was my first moments perception. After I looked further into his writings on other blogs, heard explanations of the writings, I did not see the risk. I was not there for the 5150 interview. I am in the mental health field and could understand the concern the MENTAL HEALTH FIELD had. But the government. That is just crazy, nazi crap. After hearing him speak on the radio while incarcerated, I was pretty convinced his detainment had nothing to do with his mental capacity. Scary times my brothers!

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  • ruffy
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:10pm

    The right to SAY something should be protected (except if it truly incites violence),
    and what someone WRITES should equally be protected. That includes FACEBOOK
    commentary. How dare the government abuse this God-given right to self-expression!

    What RIGHT has the government to STEAL this right from a citizen? And how disgusting
    is it that to fight for our country, it can use the services of this good soldier, but if he says
    something that some stinking government official dislikes, they can steal his freedom
    from him !!

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  • Sirfoldallot
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:05pm

    Tells us allot about the ppl envolved with this. Still think they r great americans ? No 1 fighting 4 his rights, so they all think this right.

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    • afishfarted
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:14pm

      they’re doing this to anyone who uses a public platform with a following who shows ANY sign they disagree with this marxist.
      Psychiatry as a weapon to silence religious and political opposition
      Doug HagmannFull Story

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    • CitizenForFreedom
      Posted on August 25, 2012 at 8:33pm

      @AFISHFARTED.. The government may have some psychiatrist and mental health professionals (?) they use to incarcerate the average citizen that opposes the government or regime. However, the vast majority (98% that’s a stat a pulled out of the air) can give a crap about supporting the government in such atrocities. I for one would love a government official to try and sway me to hold someone for their political beliefs. It would be major news! I have been in trouble (law suit against me) for recording similar corporate nonsense. Funny, they dropped their case because of what was on the recording. Needless to say, they paid! As they said, “In Living Color”, “Homey don’t play dat”!

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  • judyaz
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:05pm

    Thanks, Glenn, for taking look at controlling freedom of speech, and even thoughts, through legal incarceration and mind-altering drugs. These psychiatric meds are almost complete now, some think, at controlling moods, thoughts, altering personalities, in the name of psychiatry. It is worse than 1984. Some drugs injure memory (anti-depressants, anti-anxiety and sedatives). Some make you not care about anything; you’re no longer angry, no longer have unresolved issues from childhood or other trauma negatively affect your life or thoughts. Whatever one might see a psychiatrist for, these things are treated with drugs, not the longer talk therapy where one becomes self aware and makes free choices. Pain, anger, depression, anxiety, psychotic ideations, all this and more is now treated with meds. Perhaps the threat was to make him not depressed, under control (by the doctor), no longer to have thoughts or opinions out of the “norm,“ as a sign of his ”illness“ being ”managed.”
    Remember all the talk about the shooter in Tucson? Wasn’t there discussion about whether he was under psychiatric care or not and taking his meds? Aren’t shooter stories in the news asking questions, such as, why didn’t his campus therapist come forward and save lives? Was he on meds, and taking them? The only shooter I recall not being asked if he was taking psychiatric meds is, of course, the army psychiatrist who killed US soldiers at Ft. Hood (in a “workplace incident,” not an act of w

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    • v15
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:17pm

      I’m on Prozac, Effexor, an Klonopin. They make me a zombie but hopefully they never turn me into delusional. I went through Cognitive Behavior Therapy/Speech Therapy several times and it never worked hence the meds. Psychiatry is such a pseudo-science…..

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    • CitizenForFreedom
      Posted on August 25, 2012 at 7:35pm

      @V15. Meds should be a LAST choice. It appears you went through psychotherapy and it wasn’t working. There are people with chemical imbalances, psychotic thoughts, delusional thoughts, etc… Some mis-firings in the brain, have not been able to be changed with just psychotherapy. If a person is hearing voices and it is causing incredible distress, or they think they are Jesus, or as one of my patients thinks he is Hitler, there is point when taking antipsychotic medication may be a best choice for the patients safety as well as others. However, I think medications are epidemically overused and it is a business (which absolutely disgusts me). I for one, believe meds are a LAST choice!

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  • Female
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:00pm

    Came across this the other day, you might enjoy?

    http://www.sparknotes.com/sparknotes/video/1984

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  • Sirfoldallot
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:00pm

    Wow , what country was this in ?

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    • lukerw
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 4:19am

      No knock; knock… but rather Crash, bang;bang!

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  • v15
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 6:55pm

    “……son was taken by federal and LOCAL law enforcement officers,….”

    Still think the cops are our friends? They would rather follow orders and keep their job than to defend a person’s Constitutional rights.

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  • mrsuperpat
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 6:52pm

    Well people this is what kind of stuff the NDAA Bill signed into law December 31st 2011 allows for,and the Patriot Act allows for the Gov to spy on everybody, everywhere. By the way Romney supports these as well because its for the Bad Guys. And on another note this guy is not on the “Left”. He is an American that can see that our Gov is corrupted and stripping away our rights away. And to believe the Gov(known liars) official story on 911 is sheepish. Youtube “Building 7”

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    • v15
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:09pm

      I watched the YouTube video on Building 7. I still don’t see a conspiracy. You’ve been reading too much infowars.

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    • mrsuperpat
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:36pm

      @V15 You haven’t looked at anything. Try this where Architects, Engineers, and professional Demolition experts state it was a controlled demolition with out a doubt.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4

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    • v15
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:17pm

      I only got through a few minutes of that 2 hour clip. I have to ask how can the federal government be so incompetent with everything it touches yet so methodical in this one incident? It can’t. Their incompetence, however, allowed Muslim terrorists to fly planes into the twin towers. Building 7 caught on fire from the debris. I went over this “911 Conspiracy” back in 2002 and it was debunked pretty easily. Here’s how I view conspiracy theories: remember the Mark Twain quote “When you have a hammer, all problems start to look like nails”? When you fill your head with conspiracy theories, then everything appears to be a conspiracy. Wouldn’t you agree?

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    • mrsuperpat
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 9:16pm

      Your mistake is to imply that the entire government was behind it when it was only a few key people using compartmentalized departments who unknowingly assisted. Free falling buildings has never happened under any conditions unless demolished period. The experts explain scientifically why that is and how that was. I’m sure the Arab patsies were used for cover but many things were going on that day and the days leading up to it. Just too many absurdities, coincidents, coverups, and ridiculousness to believe the half hearted official investigation. Anyway no matter what it was and still is it is still being used as a catalyst to strip our rights and reshape the geopolitical landscape.

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    • mikeiyc
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 9:44pm

      I agree with you 100% i didn’t believe 9-11 was staged until I did my own research. Since then, my world has been flipped upside down but the truth is sometimes hard to swallow.My outlook on the wars our country is involved in, not to mention the meddling in the other countries ” Helping Al qaeda fight Syria!“ And all the obvious black flag happenings ”The batman shooting”. Are rights and liberty’s are being taking away in exchange for “security”? And now their demonizing our war vets as crazies!

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    • grayling646
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:50am

      I’ve researched it too. It’s been a while. I was open to the possibility of an inside job until I read Popular Mechanics review. They brought in experts from around the world to investigate each theory and not only debunked each one with facts but pointed out many lies and inaccuracies of these conspiracy theorists.

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    • v15
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:53am

      Well guys I’ll admit that IF the government played some sort of role in 911 then it take awhile for it sink in. Honestly, if it was true then I wouldn’t want to know about it. It would just shatter my reality. I do believe that the government has done a lot of shady and criminal things that it hides from its citizens. When Obama won the election in 2008 I can remember thinking, “Crap….well, he‘ll serve only one term and maybe he’s not such bad guy”. He’s much worse than I predicted and our country and the world have gone through a massive change in just 4 years. At first I thought Obama was just incompetent but by 2010 I realized Obama was destroying this country on purpose.

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    • objectivetruth
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 11:00am

      I agree with you V15.To ask the question of whether we were capable was realistic.Even big black jobs with compartmentalized operatives was reasonable.Once the question was answered by engineers it shouldn’t be on the table any more.
      To answer someone else in this thread.Buildings have fallen without intervention of anyone.Its usually old ones that didn’t have geology based models to go by.They were built on sink holes minor faults and even some while being built have collapsed due to extreme vibration[around industrial plants].Most were less than three stories and are very old.

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  • LeadNotFollow
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 6:49pm

    …
    Millions of people post comments daily on websites, to blow off steam.
    It’s actually a great way to stay sane.
    It gives one a sense of having a voice, in this insane World we live in.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 6:48pm

    Sue them for all you can get; this is one clear case of abuse by the system, and a forewarning of what will come all too quickly from Obama.

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  • tothepoint
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 6:47pm

    America – this could be you. Detained without a warrant, sent to a psychiatric hospital and on an on the story goes.
    This could be any one of us.
    Wait for it.
    This is just the beginning.
    If Obama is re-elected, these despotic tactics will multiply against those who disagree with this Serial Liar Obama and his gang.

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    • FEMALL
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 9:03pm

      The Soviet Union did the same thing to dissidents.The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.Must read.

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  • FREEDOMoverFEAR
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 6:46pm

    Way worse happened in America’s past. http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/diseases/early.html There’s not enough discontent in this country to inspire a revolution yet. So if the cops come for you it’s best to just let yourself be arrested. Nothing we can do to prepare, no need to prepare actually because like I said not enough people would violently oppose the Government. If things continue the way they are soon most people will be too lazy too scared and ignorant to oppose the Government. Look at China a bunch of people willing to follow their Government blindly. Will that become us….

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    • Wartface
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:19pm

      Have some respect for our Military… They took an oath to our Constitution, NOT to our Commander in Chief.

      I truly do not believe when asked to violate our Constitution and if ordered to use force against law abiding citizen’s our Military will say NO… But probably Hell NO.

      I would bet on a Military coup de ta of our Goverment before the Goverment is allowed to violate our bill of rights.

      The are former and active duty people already planning for this type of violation of our Constitution. Google… Oath Keeper’s and inform yourself.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:43pm

      Wart-
      Those in the military who are oath keepers will be sidelined and removed, leaving only the compliant, ambitious types to do whatever the President says. Why do you think they overturned the don‘t ask don’t tell policy that was Clinton’s idea in the first place? How many in the military refuse orders when the president broke the rules in libya? How many violated the constitutional rights of the people by confiscating weapons after Katrina? A few refused, but they allowed other units to do it. How are the men an woman of the armed services going to know the difference between legitimate missions and ones that are contrary to their oaths? They said not a word when they smoked aliki and his son. they won’t say any when they are ordered to round you up for your protection.

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  • soybomb315_II
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 6:43pm

    ah ha – i knew it. I said yesterday Brandon shouldnt eat anything in prison because the government would be looking to drug him

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:26pm

      Hi soybomb315_II,

      You are aware of the “Baker Act” from 1971? NDAA might not have been needed to lock Brandon up. I don’t know which States have this or if it is a Federal law now. But, I do agree with you. Due process is needed and that‘s why I don’t like the Baker Act. And under the Backer Act, drugs can be given to the “patient” without anyone’s permission but the Doctors say so. No Judge needed.

      http://www.namigainesville.org/images/CIT%20Baker%20Act%20Essentials.pdf

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_Act

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:32pm

      sounds like that is a florida statute monk

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    • therealconservative
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:57pm

      @soy

      I read it on the internet, so I HAS to be true.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:12pm

      @therealconservative

      I knew someone that was Baker Acted LONG before there was any Internet.

      That’s the only reason I know about it.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:20pm

      Hi Soybomb315_II,

      You could be right. Just remember that it DOES exist in Florida when you visit for the RNC.

      The news here in Tampa has been saying that all the prisoners from one jail have been moved to another jail and Tampa is prepared to arrest over 1000 people a day. They have the room and are prepared. Here’s a link from today;

      http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/jails-in-hillsborough-and-pinellas-counties-prepare-for-influx-of/1247227

      If you come to Tampa I’d be happy to buy you a breakfast or a lunch. : )

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:46pm

      @The-Monk
      Yea its going to be a complete police state outside of the convention. Thanks for the offer – i remember you asking awhile ago.

      I decided against going. I would have like to go to Paul Fest and Ron Paul’s even on Sunday but travel costs were not worth it. Decided to give a couple hundred dollars to Gary Johnson instead.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:47pm

      But i will wait to give the money till after the convention…..Just in case :)

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:10pm

      Therealconservative If you say so. Here’s something else for you to read.

      But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security.

      Raub wasn’t advocating the overthrow of the government,he didn‘t threaten anyone yet he was ’detained’ under a civil commitment,the commonwealth violated his first amendment right and soon the taxpayers will pay for the un American activities of the commonwealth.He has a right to say whatever he wants as long as he doesn’t incite violence,yet ignorant people cheer his illegal detention.That cheering will cease quickly I can assure you when their rights are violated.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:33pm

      Hi Soybomb315_II,

      Thanks for replying…. I really appreciate that. Yea, money is tight all over.

      I’m unemployed and can ride my bike to the RNC in about 5 minutes. I most likely won’t be going there unless I take my bike…. just to take some video clips of it. I‘m not going to drive down there in my car and I don’t feel like walking the distance.

      Again, I hope all is well with you and yours.

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  • WAKEUPUSA2012
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 6:35pm

    “I will stand with anyone on the left for their right to express themselves in a non-violent way… especially if I find it offensive, I will stand for their right to say it.”

    Guess what Beck, its not the “left” side this guy is on. Dont get me wrong I appericate your support for this man, but lets just be real. You have said some down right shamefull comments about 911 truthers and the familys of 911.

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 6:39pm

      Its one thing to say something against the truthers, its another to wrongfully send them to a mental hospital and threaten them with medical indoctrination. It sounds more like Hitler’s world than America.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 6:45pm

      RIght on Wake Up..Glenn treats them as the Saul Alinsky Rules for Radical says to treat them..Conspiracies Theories are just that Theories even if proven true..Freeze Isolate ridicule.your oppositon..the lie is the truth and the truth is a lie..Remember when he showed a video of Ron Paul being set up to admit he was a truther..and Glenn made fun of him? THat was not something to sneeze at..That is leadership of sheeple.. Sibel Emonds FBI translator on 9/11 had a gag order placed on her..See her interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=ylKWivA3B4M&NR=1

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    • thewatcher93
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 6:58pm

      911 truthers, yeah sure, but families of 911?

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:20pm

      @WAKEUPUSA2012

      Too bad The Blaze didn’t put the whole statement that Beck said on GBTV. You would have understood the part they did post if it was in “full context”. The Blaze messed up on this.

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    • WAKEUPUSA2012
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:22pm

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf33g9ep4YU

      Beck is a tool. What a horriable thing to say.

      WAKEUPUSA2012  
    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:08pm

      @WAKEUPUSA2012

      I listened to the audio clip and I think it’s someone doing a Glenn Beck impersonation.

      Why? Because I’ve been listening to Beck since 2005 and in this audio there are words and phases that Beck never uses and some of the words Beck does use have a slightly different “slang” to them.

      Nice try though to the person that made this. Next time post a link with video.

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    • WAKEUPUSA2012
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:45pm

      LOL your joking right? OMG you really are a shill for BECK. Thats BECK dude, weather you beleive it or not, thats beck.

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    • WAKEUPUSA2012
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:54pm

      And im watching the infowars nightly news right now with this lawyer of BRANDON on as I type. His mom said he was a Alex Jones fan, not a war mongering 911 truth hating fan of Beck. So go try and co-opt another movement, cause the liberty movement is the truth and Beck DISSED US. We want nothing to do with him.

      http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=glenn+beck+hates+9+11+families&oq=glenn+beck+hates&gs_l=youtube-reduced.3.0.0.4206571.4213350.0.4214695.24.15.4.5.7.0.181.1538.6j9.15.0…0.0…1ac.ngmh0ANoCr4

      WAKEUPUSA2012  
    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:25pm

      @WAKEUPUSA2012

      WAKEUP and smell the fake audio…..

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    • Jefferson
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 12:43am

      Monk, You are either extremely stupid or have a severe case of denial.
      (most likely both)
      Having read many of your posts, I’m beginning to think you are either an idiot or an agent. Leaning toward agent at this point. An “impersonator.” That’s rich!

      You are such a buttplug that I don’t even know how to respond to you. I hope your chains are especially heavy.

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  • NHwinter
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 6:35pm

    Sounds like what they would do at the FEMA reeducation camps. It is scary. We have to be prepared.

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    • objectivetruth
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 11:17am

      Please get it through your head the FEMA camps aren’t for reeducation.They are the planned crematorium.See ,they learned from there nazi masters, how not to alarm the public at genocide going on.They will fake physical ailments get you to voluntarily [of court order you into]reatment for the non existant disease.[They love home based treatment you don't talk to anyone that way or so they think]The treatment will kill you.you will be transported to the nearest large hospital for temporary holding[morgue]from there you will be put on trains to the crematoriun aka Fema camps.
      Then again they have been outed, so that may be why they started purchasing all those hollowpoints

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  • hades3
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 6:34pm

    For anyone who doubts such actions start at the top of the pyramid, they themselves are in danger of loseing their rights under our Constitution. I don’t believe Obama will call this Marine , and the authorities who held him in capitivity and suggest a “beer summit.”.

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  • Jenny Lind
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 6:26pm

    This whole thing is scaring me for my family, we are a patriotic bunch, many served and are serving, and none of us likes what this administration is doing. I think it is more though. FBI, and all the other letters are quietly taking people away, and if they don’t know who to call or have family, who knows? I want to know how long this has been going on. In Virginia it seems for while. We are noisy about how we feel, will one of us end in a ward somewhere?

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    • LeadNotFollow
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 6:52pm

      …
      In my opinion, Obama hates America and patriotic citizens.

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    • LeadNotFollow
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 6:58pm

      …
      John 14:27
      Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you, not as the world giveth, give I unto you.
      Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

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    • Wango
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:01pm

      Yes, I much prefer the indefinite detention of Americans as championed by Paul Ryan. He’s so darn cute!

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    • Al J Zira
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:42pm

      See that Wacko! Even you have a right to spew the idiotic and unsubstantiated comments you like to on this site.

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    • PJ Smith in Texas
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 2:00pm

      A few years ago I would have proudly answered that question. I would have said NO WAY will ANYONE ever just disappear in the U.S. for political belief (murders, organized crime, lover’s issues, drugs, insanity, greed disappearance are not sponsored by the state). Just a few years ago I would have said it was just silly to even think it, that Due Process HAD to be followed, and in the tragic cases of people being left in jail for several days who fell between the crack, those were tragic bureaucratic failings. I would have said it just won’t happen – the State doesn‘t have to protect itself like that and if it’s representative wanted to, they just couldn’t get away with it. 99.99% percent wouldn’t even attempt it, ’cause it just won’t work.
      I can’t say that today. I sure do wish I could.

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  • ConservativeCanucklehead
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 6:24pm

    Ominous story. How many others like it have gone untold?

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  • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
    Posted on August 23, 2012 at 6:22pm

    Meds?

    Soma? Probably Soma right? Just a spray in the face and off to docile land. Huxley would be so proud.

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