Author Eric Metaxas Compares Contraceptive Mandate to Germany’s Pre-Holocaust Policies
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Author Eric Metaxas
Earlier today, author Eric Metaxas appeared on MSNBC’s “Jansing and Co.,” where he made a comparison that will infuriate some Obama supporters — particularly those who are siding with the president on his controversial contraceptive mandate.
“I met the president. I gave him a copy of my book on Dietrich Bonhoeffer, which he said he’s going to read,” Metaxas said during the interview. “In that book, you read about what happened to an amazingly great country called Germany…”
This book — “Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy” — takes readers through the life of Bonhoeffer, a pastor and author who was hanged after participating in an attempt to assassinate Adolf Hitler.
Metaxas continued, alleging that, leading up to the Holocaust, conditions became less favorable to faith groups, yet no one stood up to prevent the downward spiral that would inevitably end in genocidal chaos. He then connected these small pre-Holocaust signs to the situation we’re seeing with the contraceptive mandate here in America.
“In the early 30s, little things were happening where the state was bullying the churches. No one spoke up,” he explained. “In the beginning, it always starts really, really small. We need to understand as Americans — if we do not see this as a bright line in the sand — if you’re not a Catholic, if you use contraception — doesn’t matter. Because eventually, this kind of government overreach will affect you.”
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TPM’s Michael Lester characterized these comments as follows:
With the government’s recent push to have birth control covered under a provision of the Affordable Care Act, right wing pushback has gone in to overdrive. As anyone familiar with online forums will know, these arguments always follow a form of “Godwin’s Law” and it seems Metaxas has been the first to push the argument over the edge.
But while many, like Lester, would characterize these comments as “over the top,” others — especially those associated with faith systems — would contend that the administration‘s reach into religious organizations’ practices is setting dangerous precedent.
This is the second time in one week that Metaxas is nabbing headlines. The author also spoke directly before Obama during the National Prayer Breakfast. National Review Online’s Mark Joseph described the appearance as follows:
If the organizers of the national prayer breakfast ever want a sitting president to attend their event again, they need to expect that any leader in his right mind is going to ask — no, demand — that he be allowed to see a copy of the keynote address that is traditionally given immediately before the president’s.
That’s how devastating was the speech given by a little known historical biographer named Eric Metaxas, whose clever wit and punchy humor barely disguised a series of heat-seeking missiles that were sent, intentionally or not, in the commander-in-chief’s direction. [...]
Metaxas, a Yale grad and humor writer who once wrote for the children’s seriesVeggie Tales, began his speech with several jokes and stole the show early on when he noted that George W. Bush, often accused by his critics of being incurious, had read Metaxas’s weighty tome on the German theologian Bonhoeffer; he then proceeded to hand a copy to the president while intoning: “No pressure.”
Christianity Today, too, tackled the intriguing differences (and similarities) between the two men who stand on opposing political planes.
The profound differences through which Metaxas and Obama discuss and illustrate their biblical interpretations provide a lens into their personal faith and world views.
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lambsev
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:54pmMother Teresa said:
“The greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion, which is war against the child. The mother doesn’t learn to love, but kills to solve her own problems. Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want.”
Report Post »Spyderco
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 7:04pmWow. That applies to so many of today’s issues. Thank you for the quote.
Report Post »muddpuddle
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 7:21pmbefore the polio vaccine, polio was the problem . before the measles vaccine, measles or a problem . before the rubella vaccine , rubella was a problem . before the teen pregnancy back pain , teen pregnancy was a problem .
Report Post »momrules
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 7:26pmI had never heard that quote either. She was right too, look at America’s downward spiral since abortion was legalized.
Report Post »ChildOfTheKing
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 7:27pmWhat a good-looking man!……….OOPS
Now, seriously, Obama will NOT suddenly change his life-long wisdom (Saul Alinksky) by reading this book. What he will do IS use it against the American people in some twisted way. Obama equates 1 bad American (some incident that affected him in his life) to ALL BAD AMERICANS, especially white people.). Obama hates America – the Republic, that is. He hates the Constitution because he THINKS that SOMEONE, maybe whoever is in power, should CONTROL the people, not some piece of paper.
It is the IDEA of freedom that irks the President. He doesn’t realize that there are too many of us out here who disagree with him, even tho the media will not relay that to him.
Obama, YOU are going down……..you will LOSE you next run for President. You are a sorry pathetic evil person. God is going to judge you severely, very severely, because you are in authority. Those who are in authority and who mislead the masses in and with evil, will suffer God’s wrath more than any other. So, Obama, will you give up your soul for a short future, or will you reconcile and believe the one true God who will judge you severely and separate you for eternity, from HIM and the rest of us. I pray for Obama, but it is very rare that someone of that stature admit his error. My guess is this President will be severely judged and then sent to hell where Hitler, Bin Laden, and the rest of those sorry souls, are. Very sad.
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 8:14pm@CHILDOFTHEKING Good post. Obama and his commie friends must believe there is no way they are giving up power. Election or no election. They are swooping down on everything good and wonderful and free about America. It‘s time the American people ALL wake up before it’s too late. They won’t go peacefully, but that’s no reason we should get them out anyway.
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 9:54pm@ childoftheking I agree;but would also like to see him punished here on earth for his crimes against the American people..
Report Post »neverending
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:18pmSo true.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 11:32pmThe Third Reich health system provided free sterilization to Jews, Gypsies and other undesirables
German citizens could not get sterilized. When the war began, undesirables had no choice.
White people, the new Jew.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 11:35pmHitler was elected with 95 Percent of the vote in Germany. This means that a great number of Jews voted for Hitler too. Wait until the Death Panels start up. American nursing homes will begin to build crematoriums (EPA approved of course).
Report Post »Questionman
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 6:19am@childoftheking, you are a digusting despicable waste of life!
The Republican strategy — loudly proclaiming one’s Christian faith, while attacking Obama as an agent of secular evil, if not actually Satan himself – is right out of the Fox News playbook. As the voice of the American far right, the ultimate undeclared super-duper-GOP-PAC, Fox News has embraced the cracked “birther” movement and generally done everything within its latitudinous definition of “fair and balanced” to portray Obama as a fake-Christian, foreign-born, America-hating Muslim. (Fox’s “War on Christmas” rants appear with such clockwork regularity at Christmastime that I use them as reminders to open my Advent Calendar.)
It’s obvious you’re no Christian. You are just a disgusting, hate-filled racist!
Report Post »Questionman
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 6:23am@ChildoftheKing you are a despicable waste of life!
The Republican strategy — loudly proclaiming one’s Christian faith, while attacking Obama as an agent of secular evil, if not actually Satan himself – is right out of the Fox News playbook. As the voice of the American far right, the ultimate undeclared super-duper-GOP-PAC, Fox News has embraced the cracked “birther” movement and generally done everything within its latitudinous definition of “fair and balanced” to portray Obama as a fake-Christian, foreign-born, America-hating Muslim.
It’s obvious you’re no Christian. You are just a disgusting, hate-filled racist.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 9:13am@Momrules
“I had never heard that quote either. ”
That‘s because it’s picking and choosing different parts of a much longer quote during the National Prayer Breakfast in 1994.
“But I feel that the greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion, because it is a war against the child, a direct killing of the innocent child, murder by the mother herself. And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another?
…
By abortion, the mother does not learn to love, but kills even her own child to solve her problems. And, by abortion, that father is told that he does not have to take any responsibility at all for the child he has brought into the world. The father is likely to put other women into the same trouble. So abortion just leads to more abortion. Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want. This is why the greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion.”
Note that, missing from the quote from Lamb, Mother Theresa also puts blame very much on the father as well as the mother.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 9:48amOutstanding quote. Thank you!
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 10:57amTeaMarchesOn:
You are spouting nonsense.
How are white people the “new Jews?” Have they been deprived of citizenship, ejected from their professions, denied the right to use public accommodations, or had their property–all of it–confiscated?
The key point about sterilization in the 3rd Reich is not that it was free, it’s that it was compulsory for people deemed genetically defective.
Also, Hitler was not elected with a 95% majority vote. In fact, he was not elected to power at all; he was appointed to head the German government by conservative conspirators who hoped to use him to crush Marxism and end disorder, much of which he himself had stirred up. It should go without saying that he had close to NO Jewish support at all.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:51amTEAMARCHESON, Hitler was not elected with a large margin of the vote. He was barely holding on with 30 to 33% of the vote if I recall correctly. He then took advantage of and manipulated loose election laws at the time and eventually finagled his way into the office. Frankly, that sounds familiar with some of our recent elections.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:55amLLOYD DRAKO, Thank you for straightening that out. It was in ‘77 that I read John Toland’s 1,000 plus page book on Adolph Hitler. And, getting to that age where I can’t quite remember everything off the top of my head. I just knew that he did not win with a majority of the vote.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 12:08pmQUESTIONMAN, I won’t go into a long winded diatribe. I in no way consider myself a birther, or for that matter any kind of conspiracy theorist. But, I do question the veracity of 0bama’s claim to have been born in Hawaii. That so called ‘birth certificate’ is not an actual birth certificate. It is a certificate of live birth. With the absolute anal exam given to all Republican candidates revealing as much as possible about them, why is there no known background of 0bama’s college days. Why does nobody remember him in college. Where are his former girlfriends? Regardless what he claims, nobody in his youthful past recalls him. Sounds awfully suspicious. So, by all means, feel free to prove to us here at The Blaze 0bam’s origin of birth.
Report Post »flatbroke
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:47pmSo the mandate forces Catholic hospitals to now offer birth control to patients, via the hospitals pharmacy, where before they did not, and in patients would have to go across the street to fill a birth control prescription. This was a religious choice by the hospital, a religious choice! since when does gobment make any private industry do anything, or force religious organizations to do anything??? because this is a violation of Church and state, but its ok, because this has been going on for a long time in our country, and now everone is upset??? so why OH why did you vote for O’bama???
Report Post »SHOWMESTATEGUY
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:47pmI really have to agree with the man. Seems that BO, just like Hitler, is taking it one step at a time.
Report Post »riverdog1
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:53pmeric, you are an idiot.
Report Post »LouC57
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 7:48pmShowmestateguy, you’re 100% right.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:57amRIVERDOG1,
Report Post »To give you the benefit of the doubt, I hope you are referring to Eric “The Red” Holder?
jujubeebee
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:44pmHidden in obamacare is also punishment for hospitals that spend too much on an older person.
Report Post »Welcome to government control! They will decide who is not worthy to live and who is. They will also force doctors and hospitals to treat abortions so you can say good bye to the religious hospitals that have helped alot of people. The government will also be deciding that Catholic adoption agencies must give babies to gay couples so you can say goodbye to those too. The government will be deciding our lives. This is freedom they are taking away from us and those who cannot see it for what it is are just plain blind.
gretsch62
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:43pmThe Naked Emperor just “Flip Flopping Away”!
Report Post »kkentucky
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:40pmLaughing Woman,
Report Post »Of course for the woman its her choice, but the government has no right to force other people to pay for something that goes against their religious beliefs and infringe on our right to religious freedom. They can choose to either, work somewhere else or obtain birthcontrol and abortion pills from another source. No one is saying these woman cant obtain birthcontrol, just that they will not contribute to something they view as a mortal sin.
Lloyd Drako
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 11:21amGrow up. People pay for things that violate their religious beliefs all the time. By way of taxes, members of pacifist religious groups pay for weapons and war, adherents of racist sects pay for non-discrimination programs and mandates, atheists pay for military chaplains, religious home-schoolers pay for public schools.
Report Post »gr8t2bfree
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:36pmThis is one of the reasons russia calls the US facists.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:18pmCan someone please fill me in on what I’m missing?
First, many many many Catholics pushed for Mandated universal healthcare so I’m unsure why they are upset Obama is pushing for what many many Catholics supported.
The Government forcing employers to cover contraceptives does not force employees to request contraceptives or use them does it? But it does simply forces employers to offer and that has Catholics who supported universal healthcare upset?
I don’t get it….I also do not support universal mandated healthcare at all.
Report Post »bertr
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:33pmIm not catholic and have never been for socialized healthcare in America. I think beyond the controceptive issue, which is indeed a large part of there beef, is the mandatory contribution of funding of elective abortions also. Which mass abortion funding is not unlike forced mass murder funding from one who hold othadox catholic beliefs.
Report Post »The Catholics who supported it when they were told this was not in there were naive and allowed themselves to be decieved.
BetterInformed
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:42pm@Okie Try this
Imagine Peta supporting a bill to insure that all employees receive all necessary uniforms and equipment to support comfort and safety in the work place.
Report Post »Then the government mandates that all employees should be given genuine fur coats.
Travist81
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:47pmIf an employee works for a faith based organization and requests some form of contraceptive then that organization is forced to provide it through Obamacare. That’s the issue. The government is mandating an organization, when requested by an employee, to do something, contrary to what they believe to be right. Therefore the organization is forced to support an act of sin.
Just recently a Democratic Rep. said that she regrets voting for Obamacare because she didn’t realize the law would go this far. So I would like to think Catholics who supported the law didn’t really think it would go this far as well.
Report Post »BetterInformed
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:54pm@BERTR
Attempting to decipher your comment are we to understand that you are stating that the administration lied to Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich) and the Catholic church regarding government mandated birth control and abortions? For awhile there I thought you might be blaming the Catholics for believing there President.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 7:24pm@Travis
I just find it odd Catholics and or the Catholic Churches whom did support this mandated healthcare did not stop to think about sexual activity being considered part of healthcare.
So Catholics support mandated healthcare but do not support being mandated to provide options of sexual healthcare the Catholic faith may disagree with? Isn’t that a little hypocritical?
I appreciate all of the comments trying to help me understand this. I hope this turns all Catholics away from forced universal healthcare….
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Report Post »@okiemuskogee33
RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 7:35pmOKIE FROM MUSKOGEE
Report Post »As for so many of the Catholics desiring the mandated health care, it just comes down to the old saying, “Careful what you wish for.”
BetterInformed
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 7:45pm@Okie
When the church supported health care they were providing standard, traditional healthcare to their employees. At that time no health insurance company considered birth control pills a requirement for health. Because of this no health insurance company provided coverage for the pill but would provide coverage for Viagra etc. Further, more as I stated above, in order for the administration to get the support of Rep. Stupak (D-Mich) and his anti abortion caucus Planned Parenthood type services abortion would not be mandated. Simply put, the caucus and the church was lied to by the president.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 9:27pm@Better
Catholics are ok with mandated healthcare as long as it is mandated towards the Catholic way but mandating in contrast to Catholic belief such as requiring contraceptive to be administered upon request makes it not ok to Catholics….
That is why I asked if it’s hypocritical because Catholics were all for it when they believed it was Catholic belief being mandated but switched to hate it when they found out it was mandating other religious or non-religious beliefs who may use contraceptive.
Again, I think the whole idea of mandated healthcare is wrong all the way around. Appreciate your comments and hope your night is great.
Report Post »bertr
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 12:02pmIf they trusted him again do you not think they would be naive for believing thier president now after this? and if so, how much different is it now? how many times had he lied before that? the numbers are debated, but its numerous any honest position you take. you should respect the office of the president, but its just plain irresponsible to blindly trust a known habitual lier.
Report Post »Flashdancer
Posted on February 12, 2012 at 12:58amThe Roman Catholics tried to gain political power. They should remember the teachings of Christ and worry about the “ages to come”. We are not of this world and must live a Godly excistance until judgement. Wishing bad on evil is not Godly. Trying to beat the devil at his own game is stupid. Martyrs never did, remember the Holy Saints as their lives give us real world instruction on how to handle our own lives.
Report Post »republic2011
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:09pmAmen. We are following in the steps of Nazi Germany. First, the NDAA passed, now the administration is setting its sights on the religious groups. You could almost say that Obama is taking this right out of Hitler’s playbook.
Report Post »riverdog1
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:57pmno nowhere near “hitlers playbook”. remember adolph was fine with christians, jews not so much. havn’t seen obama round up any catholics and send them to the gas chambers yet. you keep listening to glennie though.
Report Post »RememberMe
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 7:34pmriverdog1
well since you called someone else on here and idiot… I will return the favor:)
Report Post »You sir, need a lesson in history. Hitler WENT after all religious groups, he imprisoned many of them (yellow triangle mean anything to you?) It is just that while going after the Catholic church, the church made a deal with the devil… you leave church alone, and we will look the other way while you murder millions. Hitler started out slow, and cut off one appendage at a time, starting with the pinky toe. Eugenics was part of it, control of all religious groups, control of the military, unions, another part, imprisonment and finally the gas chambers.
DawneBaker
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 5:38pmWow! Tremendous testimony for Jesus Christ. Here is the link to C-Span’s coverage:
Report Post »TeaPartyForRomney
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 5:29pmAlso Rush Limbaugh has come out talking about how this battle over contraception is actually a battle over the Constitution: http://url2it.com/lnmf
Report Post »TeaPartyForRomney
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 5:28pmAre youtracking everything that is going on with Obama and the battle on religion. Here is a site that is keeping track: http://url2it.com/lnme
Report Post »Laughing Woman
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 5:15pmIn 28 states businesses have used this as a rule when it comes to places that are not for worship only . 98% of Catholic women use some sort of birth control so maybe the Pope and his boys should get the point that this is no longer the way things are in their own congregation and step out of the Dark Ages.
For people of faith that are offended by contraception practice free will.
Report Post »geonj
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 5:26pmgoing against church teaching is a matter of conscience. justify it all you want. church teaching does not disallow for birth control. just birth control that interferes with God’s will. people sin, Jesus forgives. government doesn’t get to force morality on people of faith. i laugh in your face, laughing woman.
Report Post »mountainmover101
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 5:36pmThen 98% of Catholic women need to look for another church. Why attend a church with which you disagree? That is if your attendance is real and not sort of subterfuge to subvert the church’s teachings. There are plenty of apostate churches of which to be a member. The Pope and his “boys” need do nothing. The church teaching and law is what it is. If you don’t like it…leave.
Report Post »Laughing Woman
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 5:51pmWell, do not use contraception. Your choice, free will. Many employees are not Catholic, a good friend of mine that works for Catholic charities is a Buddhist and she should be offered contraception.
Times change, dogma changes.Popes were once married and Mass was only in Latin.
Personally I wish the Roman Catholic Church would have gotten this upset over the aiding and abetting of pedophile priests .
Report Post »oldironsides
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:02pmthe government is imposing laws that eliminate free will – you twit
Report Post »they will back off after learning the massive social ramifications of the Catholics closing their inner city hospitals and Catholic Charities-which they may decide to do, using their free will – look up the figures on the people serviced by these institutions
oldironsides
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:16pmlaughing – your friend can use her free will and go work somewhere else – they don’t owe her a job or any benefits, she accepts their policy or not. You must be in a union – if anyone tried to tell me what benefits to give my employees, I’d shut the doors. There are already too many regulations.
Report Post »Laughing Woman
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:21pmOLDIRONSIDES says “look up the figures on the people serviced by these institutions”
All the more reason why their businesses that employ many, especially non-Catholics, should have to offer contraception service. The Church can part with a few golden idols and put out the cash. Offering is not making a moral choice, that is left to the conscience of the employee.
Plus this law is in several states and we are still here!
While some religious employers take advantage of loopholes or religious exemptions, the fact remains that dozens of Catholic hospitals and universities currently offer contraceptive coverage as part of their health insurance packages.
“We’ve always had contraceptive birth control included in our health care benefits,” said Michelle Michaud, a labor and delivery nurse at Dominican Hospital in Santa Cruz, Calif. “It‘s something that we’ve come to expect for ourselves and our family.”
Dominican is part of the Catholic Healthcare West System. A spokeswoman for the 40-hospital chain confirmed that it has offered the benefits since 1997.
Michaud, who was raised Catholic but doesn’t practice now, says she doesn‘t see any problem for a Catholic hospital to provide a benefit that conflicts with the religion’s teachings.
According to the National Women’s Law Center, 28 states currently require contraceptives to be offered in health plans that also cover other prescription drugs; eight of those laws include no exemption for religious o
Report Post »jasmer
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:21pm@Laughing – point is, why should a Catholic, PRIVATE agency pay your Buddhist pal because she couldn’t keep her legs together? If the Catholic agency is refused public funding because they were unwilling to promote infanticide, well & good – but of course agencies such as ACORN and Planned Parenthood don’t have to worry about silly little things like the law, so that there’s one sweet lawsuit waiting for an eager lawyer.
Besides that, your running back for no reason to the multi-decade old pedobear priest scandal while ignoring the constant, frequent, pervasive diddling of American children by the Teachers’ Union rank & file paints you as a hypocrite. Don’t get painted; be honest.
Report Post »Laughing Woman
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:28pm@Brooke Lorren
Then do not take contraceptives if that is what you believe.
Murder /zygote. Not following but love your youthful passion. I do not believe a dividing cell is a life.
Everyone can follow their own conscience. As I have stated before this law is already in several states and there has been no Armageddon.
Report Post »Brooke Lorren
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:40pmThanks for calling me youthful ;-). At least one person that was in my high school class is already a grandma, although I am still hoping for a third child myself.
You may not believe that a fertilized egg is a life, but many Catholics and non-Catholic Christians, including myself, do. The whole point of this law is that it’s trying to force people to go against their conscience. It is against the consciences of these Catholics to pay for someone else to have contraception, which they believe is immoral.
Hiring a hitman to kill someone (i.e. paying for someone to kill another human being) is just about as bad as going out and doing the deed yourself. How is that any different from funding contraception, which could potentially kill someone?
Yes, I know that YOU do not believe that it is killing someone, but the point is, other people do, and they are the people that have the biggest problem with this law.
Report Post »4XGrace
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:41pmToo bad the Catholics believe their traditions OVER the Bible. They reap what they sow. The whole thing about them being Christian is not true as well. Ask a Catholic “What are you in faith?“ and they will say ”Catholic”. You cannot use the equation “Catholic = Christian” because it is not a truth; it is a lie. You don’t have to go very far to discover the lie. Look at their mass where they sacrifice Christ over and over again dispensing the “graces of God” from their treasury. Something that is contrary to what was said on the cross by Jesus … “It is finished.” Meaning the work of redemption. We are to pray to the Father (God) in the name of his Son (Jesus Christ) and NOT through the pope and his cardinals; nor is it through the “Virgin” Mary (who incidentally is NOT a virgin because she had children by Joseph after Jesus was born). Mary is NOT the Queen of Heaven and she is NOT the Co-redeemer in Christ. I could go on and on about how UNChristian the Catholic church is. In the end, the Catholic church, as are all “churches” are just religions … cults modeled after the designs of men in their pride supplanting God and making themselves gods.
Report Post »Laughing Woman
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:46pmJasmer,
Shame on you. Keep her legs crossed shows your misogynist attitude towards women. As for refusing public funding, we will see. As I have stated before many religious hospitals offer contraception.
Hmm, infanticide is a strong term for a fertilized egg. A bit dramatic aren’t you.
As for this diddling teacher union, well I have never heard of the union knowingly sending a repeat molester into a classroom and hiding it from all involved. What the hierarchy of the church did concealing and covering up abuse, as well as moving the priest to a location where he could have access to more children is beyond evil. It was about power, not God.
Report Post »jasmer
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 7:19am@Laughing – understanding the mechanics of procreation makes me a woman-hater? What a strange, twisted reality Progressivism creates for you. If your Buddhist pal doesn’t want to have children, there’s a multitude of ways to avoid them, such as not trying to create them in the first place. Maybe someone more patient can explain it to you.
As for hyperbole, labeling abortion as infanticide is far less outrageous than calling me misogynistic. Or do you cheerfully pretend the whole Kermit Gosnell bit doesn’t exist? Quibbling over what stage of embryonic development constitutes an infant is deliberately ignoring the forest for the trees.
Lastly, you should crack open a book or two if you imagine that schools and universities don’t routinely cover up teacher pedophilia, but that the Catholic Church does. To say nothing of such “evangelism” through sex ed programs, such as those cheered for by Obama’s GLSEN allies such as Kevin Jennings.
Or did you attend Penn State?
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/facts/fm0011.html
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 6:57pmThe problem is not what humans think. The problem is that God thinks and plainly says, murder is wrong, homosexuality, fornication, greed, envy, stealing the list goes on – all wrong. Just because a few humans decide to think their opinion is greater than God’s opinion, they are still wrong and fully illustrates the problem of the left and our downward spiral as a nation
Report Post »My Two Cents
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 5:08pmI just started reading another book, In The Garden of Beasts by Eric Larsen, about Berlin in 1933 when Hitler first came into power. In just the first few pages I found some eerie parallels between what happened in Germany back then to what we are seeing now in the USA. At the time, it all seemed as inocuous to the German citizens as it did to foreign governments including our own.
One thing that struck an immediate chord with me was the way they coerced fellow Germans into turning on each other in a similar fashion as our DHS “If You See Something Say Something” campaign. This was all done under the guise of protecting the homeland.
Next, they began to strip away personal liberties and religious freedoms and we all know where it went from there.
Report Post »Abe Lincoln Lover
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 8:09pmI‘ve read Eric Metaxis’s book and several others regarding Germany and it’s rise to power. We in the U. S. are on the same road of destuction. It’s like Obama is using this history as a playbook to initiate all his plans for us. He is using everything at his disposal; the muslims, the youth, the poor and on and on. I think he is evil and has evil planned far beyond what people could have imagined. I wonder if we will even have a real election in Nov. I’m sure he has several plans to hold on to the power he has. God help us all if he is not defeated! We must pray for our nation and turn back to God in complete trust and obedience. It’s our choice.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 4:59pmI have never in my life been more afraid of a man as I am of President Barak Obama.
I wonder how many people in pre WWII Germany felt this same fear of Adolph Hitler.
Report Post »My Two Cents
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 5:18pmHitler’s approach was seemingly more innocuous when he first came into power in 1933. By the time the German citizens caught on it was too late and speaking out meant imprisonment or worse.
Our President is forcing his tyranny upon us in plain sight and on a faster timetable.
Report Post »Laughing Woman
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 5:29pmSeek therapy. Barack Obama is a moderate. Outside of the Affordable Care act (which was originally a republican plan and in reality was written by lobbyists)what has he done that scares you?
Not raise taxes? Kill leaders in Al-Qaeta? Threaten Iran?
NO copay contraception for workers in religious hospitals, charities and universities is a good policy.
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Laughing Woman
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 5:39pmMomrules are you scared of Mitt Romney? There is really no difference but skin color.
In 2002 — the very same year Romney campaigned for governor of Massachusetts — the state enacted a “contraceptive equity” law that required insurers that provide outpatient benefits to cover all FDA-approved contraceptive methods. Similar to the Obama regulation, the law exempted “an employer that is a church or qualified church-controlled organization” An amendment that “would have allowed affiliated institutions such as hospitals, universities, and nursing homes to deny their employees coverage was defeated and Romney remained mum on the requirement. —
He even promised to expand access to emergency contraception and restore state funding for family-planning and teen pregnancy prevention programs.
And in 2005, he “signed a bill that could expand the number of people who get family-planning services, including the morning-after pill.” Romney even pressured the state Department of Health and Human Services to issue regulations that required Catholic hospitals to issue the morning after pill to rape victims.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 5:39pmLaughingwoman……….you make me laugh
Report Post »Brooke Lorren
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:30pmI’m not afraid of him. What’s the worst he can do, send me to heaven?
I don‘t like what he’s doing at all. I fear that I may be vilified and have to flee to the mountains or be thrown into a concentration camp because of my beliefs, but I know that God will be with me no matter what.
Barack Obama is the one who should be afraid, because he does not acknowledge that Jesus is the only way to be saved. I’m also sure that God is not very happy with how he is trying to interfere with religious liberty. We all have to answer to God some day, no matter how much power we hold down here on this earth.
Report Post »Laughing Woman
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:59pmWhy would you have to flee? Based upon what facts?
I am very sorry that the propaganda of the right has made you so fearful. None of it is true. Right or left we are a government by and for the corporate and financial elites.
Report Post »riverdog1
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 7:03pmwhy are you afraid of obama? i mean you can dissagree with his policies as a very moderate democrat but afraid, that is very strange.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 7:23pmBrooke Lorren…………I love you post but I am not afraid of this man in the ordinary sense because he is not an ordinary man.
I think he is evil, the same way Hitler was evil. I fear him because of the death and fear and destruction he might bring to America. I fear him because I fear for my children and their future.
My soul is saved through Christ, I don’t really fear death at my age and I trust Him to see me through tough times but I would be lying if I say I do not fear what I believe this man is capable of.
Report Post »Laughing Woman
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 8:10pm@momrules
Again I must ask what proof do you have to validate your belief that Obama is as evil as Hilter?
Report Post »dontbotherme
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 9:50pm@Laughingwoman: It appears as though you do not want an honest discussion. Are you here simply to incite? You should not mock people. When one attempts to make another look stupid for their beliefs it often backfires. Please accept my apology if I have misinterpreted your statements.
Report Post »Brooke Lorren
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 2:34amYou may be right that Barack Obama is not an ordinary man. His name is actually in the Hebrew Bible, in Luke 10:18. Some people say it’s not true, but I looked it up in the Hebrew Bible myself, and then I looked up the words in Strong’s to make sure. Luke 10:18 says “I beheld Satan falling as lightning from Heaven.” In Hebrew, Barack Bamah means “lightning from a high place”. Barack is Strong’s H1299 and means “lightning”, Bamah is H1116, and means “high place.” I wrote an article on it in June 2010: http://voices.yahoo.com/barack-obamas-name-bible-6060926.html?cat=34. While it is likely that he will play some role in the end times drama, there’s plenty of evidence that suggests that Judas Iscariot is actually the beast the Revelation talks about.
Report Post »HappyHaloHousewife
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 4:56pmAccidentally posted twice, and this apology is the third. Awkward….
Report Post »riverdog1
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 7:01pm@brooke. why do you think obama doesn’t believe jesus is savior? is it because he has said, many many times that he is or is it because he has a funny name?
Report Post »Capitalist Mama
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 9:00pmRiverdog, nothing to do with the man’s name. Point me to where he has personally proclaimed Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior.
Good luck trying to find that audio. He’s stated he is a christian but has not stated any personal statement of true faith.
This is not about RACE. If you say it is, you are either trying to manipulate the conversation, or you are dumber than a hammer. Pick one.
Report Post »Brooke Lorren
Posted on February 8, 2012 at 5:01amIt is because he’s said before that there are more than one way to heaven. I have a book about his religion that has quotes from him saying this, but I’m too lazy to go cite it right now.
If you’re trying to pull the racist card on me, go ahead. I have a black husband, two biracial children, and a biracial nephew. I have extended family members with names like Tariq and Mahalia, so not all of my family members have normal names. My own kids’ names come from fantasy novels, so they don’t have names that you hear very often either.
Report Post »SREGN
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 4:53pmOh great. He gave them a book on Hitler’s methods.
Report Post »its_time_to_arrest_our_government
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 5:18pmI hope he gets the point that Hitler died in the end for his ideas and deeds. we wont wait for it to get that bad here before we act. Obama needs to be removed at once. Hes illegal and he knows it. He thinks hes above the law because he sends his thugs out to threaten anyone who may expose his lies. like he did in Georgia with the judge there. boy I would like to not show up in court and win. The judge who is suppose to be impartial turned into Obama’s lawyer. tell me how many of you would end up in jail if you didn’t show up? but Obama thinks hes above the law. Its time to show his hes not. the truth needs to get out about his illegally holding office and the cowards who refuse to remove him out of fear of a civil war. Funny how they are afraid of blacks but are not afraid of violating the constitution and us other Americans. read up on who hes using to intimidate us…
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its time to rise up and make our government do its job by removing his illegal a$$
MCDAVE
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:19pm@ IT TIME TO ARREST….. THANKS for the link; I suspected foul play in Georgia…I tend to think civil war is coming if he is re-elected…FBI should be ashamed of there conduct..
Report Post »cloudsofwar
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 4:52pmour freedoms are slowly being taken, and they (congress) clapped. over reach thats an understatment. we are so lucky to have our own Hitler. progressives and nazi’s are one in the same. remember the Nazi’s got their ideas from the american progressives. it‘s all happen before and it’s happening again. i hope we can change our sorry future this november. if Obama wins we lose.
Report Post »My Two Cents
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 5:26pmThey did more than clap. When Obamacare passed they stood on the House floor shouting YES WE CAN like a bunch of Muslim thugs celebrating in the streets of Kabul after 911.
Report Post »HappyHaloHousewife
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 4:50pmMetaxas is pretty bold to give that book to Obama. I wish I could have been there!.
Report Post »Stu D. Baker-Hawk
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 4:49pm(the sound of thunderous applause)
And if anybody doesn’t think Obama is evil, up to and included Mr. Bill O’Reilly, then they are fools.
Report Post »cloudsofwar
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 5:08pmyou said it fools, fooling themselves.
Report Post »jujubeebee
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:30pmI agree. They are fools that do not see the evil behind Obama and just evaluate him on the old political points that applied prior to having this man in the presidency. I do believe there are many behind him and running him or using him. He has done enough damage but a second term will bring the USA down to where it cannot recover. Yes, I fear him. I think the laughing woman is a joke. This is greater than any one thing that is discussed. We were all conditioned for years to be agreeble so they could move us toward socialism, marxism, communism. They are taking our freedom in tiny bits and distracting people with this little thing or that on a daily basis. What was hidden in obamacare bill was planned years in advance….waiting for the opportunity to sneak it in. Nothing is above board.
Report Post »whatthecrazy
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 4:44pmWow hope to see alot more of him, i would love to see that speech.God bless him for puttin it out there for all of us that can’t.
Report Post »littlefish
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 4:43pmFrom the BBC
Notice the date
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The Obama-Catholic row continues
Justin Webb | 22:31 UK time, Wednesday, 22 April 2009
Sunday 17 May is still D-day in the war between Barack Obama and the Catholic hierachy, with neither side standing down, in fact rather the opposite.
I hope this has nothing to do with it – Notre Dame as the Kent State de nos jours?
But it is a war, and in a war vice-presidents are not the only human beings who convince themselves that special measures are acceptable.
The position of the Catholic Chuch in President Obama’s America is going to be one of the fascinating sub-plots to the main story over the next few years. There is a quite brilliant book just out (full disclosure: I know one of the authors) which argues that American religion – or more precisely the American approach to religion, as a set of choices in a spiritual market-place – is being exported successfully around the world.
But the book also makes the point that within the US, the Catholic Church is in many ways a failing institution:
“The Catholic Church has lost more people to other denominations or to no religion at all than any other religious group,” it says.
The shortfall is made up, of course, by South American immigrants. Socially conservative immigrants.
So the Obama-friendly wing of the Church is in decline, and the hard-line anti-Obama wing is on the up.”
AND wasn’t there a prelude to this in the debate ? Ban con
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 4:42pmI’m not convinced that Obama can make it through a whole book, much less one that is critical to his policies.
Report Post »jujubeebee
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 6:38pmHe’ll have someone else read it for him and highlight the passages ~ as what probably happened with Arizona Governor Brewer’s book.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 4:40pmHe’s right, a lot of the stuff going on today, from forced healthcare to all the queers in the administration and their fighting for gay rights mirrors Hitler and his gang of thugs. The liberals seem to love to use the uneducated to make history repeat.
Report Post »HappyHaloHousewife
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 4:32pmMetaxas has some cajones to give that book to Obama! Good for him.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 4:42pmCan Obama read?
Report Post »NEMATIC
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 7:15pmOnly his teleprompter.
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