AZ Shooter‘s ’Best Friend’: ‘He Didn’t Listen to Political Radio’
- Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:21pm by
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Zach Osler talked to ABC News reporter Ashleigh Banfield on Good Morning America about his friend Jared Loughner.
The interview is revealing on a number of point but here is the key quote:
He did not watch TV. He disliked the news. He didn’t listen to political radio. He didn’t take sides. He wasn’t on the left. He wasn’t on the right.
One one former close friend of Loughner’s said he went from a stable high school student to a violent, self-medicated “monster” after his girlfriend dumped him during his junior year of high school.
Zachary Osler said that Loughner, who would walk around with his jaw and fist clenched, spent “excessive amounts of money” on drugs.
Osler said Loughner consumed marijuana, cocaine, psilocybin mushrooms and the hallucigenic salvia.
“There was no political motive in this, [Jared] was just angry at the world,” he said.
Loughner ended his friendship with Osler through a text message two years ago, writing to him, “I don’t want to be friends with you anymore.”
Osler also said that Loughner’s favorite quote was, “Out of chaos breathes creation.”
Osler, who spent a lot of time at the Loughner’s home during high school, described the family’s home as “cold, dark and unpleasant“ and added that he always felt ”unwelcomed.”
Littered with musical instruments and a computer in the middle of the room, Osler said he never observed a particularly loving relationship between the Loughners. Loughner once told Osler that he loved his pet dog Hannah more than his parents.
“They did very few family activities together besides going to car races and one family vacation to the beach, and they never decorated their house for the holidays,” recalled Osler. “Jared’s parents were religious but Jared proclaimed himself as an atheist.”
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Comments (303)
bassist237
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:39pmZeitgeist huh.
Report Post »goddamn_it_shah
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:47pmLumpenproletariat eh. Bildungsroman oh. Wirtschaftswunder um.
Any more German terms to throw about lazily?
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:53pmlet the rest of us in on it that don’t speak German
Report Post »bassist237
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:56pm@Goddamn_IT_Shah
I was referring to the shooters’ movie of choice.
Guess the link didn’t appear with it.
http://www.zeitgeistthefilm.com/
Report Post »76 (I'm offended that you're offended)
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:27pmYa, Mein hund ist ein Schnitzle hund, ober ein Dachsund. Und Die Mutti arbeitet am die Stasse koner fur phennigs und Sie dust nicht so gut. (With apologies, my German sucks)
Report Post »goddamn_it_shah
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:55pmYour German sucks, 76? Never! It’s…ok, no, you’re right – it’s utterly atrocious. Ein kleines bisschen scheisse.
Report Post »76 (I'm offended that you're offended)
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 2:43pmHey, at least I warned you:)
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:39pmWhy do we keep trying to disprove the liars on the left.Do we think they are suddenly going to come to their senses and admit they are a bunch of dishonest ,corrupt aholes willing to do or say anything to advance their socialist agenda .In this case the evidence is overwhelming that this guy was anything but a right winger (closer to left winger seems to me)yet they keep repeating the same bulls**t and the RIGHT keeps trying to defend .GO ON THE OFFENSIVE DIPS**TS ,these brain damaged progressives will never stop .We are the majority ,they are a small mouthy minority, treat them like the small minded, selfish ,petulant teenagers their minds never matured from .
Report Post »tomkaighin
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 7:51pmThe reason is the same as it has always been: ‘The light of Truth shall rid the Kitchen of Cockroaches”. (Ok, Libspeak may be tougher to eradicate than cockroaches, cockroaches have the sense enough to know when to run)
Report Post »Ray2447
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:38pmThe mentally ill members of the Democrat party speak their insanity, but it is Democrats who overwhelmingly are the spewers of vitriolic rhetoric. Go back to the days when the lefties spit on our Vietnam servicemen and track their evil hate and vitriol up to the modern day. The Democrat party is a vile hate movement whose modus operandi has overwhelmingly been characterized by incident after incident after incident of violent hate and vitriol – FOR DECADES!. Their attempt to point “the finger” at conservatives is the height of audacity and hypocrisy.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 2:37pmThere is no such thing as hypocrisy for the left….just results. Lie if you have to . cheat if you can…….. total moral bancruptcy.
Report Post »MissCherryJones
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:38pmInteresting bit I just read in my Juvenile Justice text book: lack of religiosity in families is a risk factor to juvenile delinquency. This is this year’s text. Amazing that that was in there. Not that it has anything to do with this case. But I did notice “political talk or political leanings” wasn’t on the rather lengthy list.
Report Post »Also mentioned that if an individual is mentally unstable, nothing will stop them from doing something deemed (by society) wrong.
ENTITLEMENTSBLOW
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:37pmOh wow, sorry New York Times Loser, you were wrong!
Report Post »chuck_wagon
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:36pmIf he watched it 24 hours a day what difference would it make. He’s responsible, plain and simple. Unless you’re a liberal/progressive/demonic-rat, then it’s somebody elses fault.
Report Post »grym
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:36pmPrepare for this “Best Friend” to get the “Plumber” treatment…. I do hope I am wrong..
Report Post »Outside Looking In
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:36pmLeft: “That’s NOT the point! He could have and if he had then he would have gone out and shot somebody. Which is exactly what he did. So you see, it IS Rush/Beck/Levin/Hannity/Savage/Palin/Fox’s fault and now we should ban Rush/Beck/Levin/Hannity/Savage/Palin/Fox and stop with all this Constitution/Tea Party violent rhetoric.”
Cass Sunstein/George Soros’ plan continues to move forward …
Report Post »912828Buckeye
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:35pmThe truth is coming out.
Report Post »BlacksAgainstObama
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:35pmI can’t believe is really happening. They are really using this to try and get rid of talk radio. I knew it was bad, but I never thought they would use this tragedy like this. I bet the Congresswoman herself, if she could speak, would tell them to STOP!
http://www.watchglennbeck.com
Report Post »PhantomsPhorever
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:35pmHis friend is obviously a conservative plant (notice the close cropped hair) sent by Limbaugh and Beck to run interference for the right wing jihad. I‘ll bet he’s Keith Olbermans “Worst Person In The World” tonight.
Report Post »TonyDarrington
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:35pmBut he overheard someone talking about Beck. Beck’s rhetoric is so full of vitriol, you absorb the anger from the radiowaves.
Report Post »Buttercup
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:15pmIn his head?
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 2:30pmOh, butter cup, you don’t use your head for that.
Report Post »Slappy
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:34pmNow that the left looks like a bunch of smacked asses….I can just sit back and wait for the countries worst sheriff to be repealed.
Report Post »WinstonSmith1984
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:34pmI have heard that this interveiw was edited out in certain areas…or parts of the interveiw.
Report Post »Hefsmaster
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:43pmand the sun rises east.
Report Post »Ilovenh1
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 4:25pmOOO OOO !
Report Post »is that a Basenji !
RLTW
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:34pmWill this informed info change the progressive rhetoric? I think not, but his BF will now be investigated and maligned.
Report Post »hkyfan36
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:33pmNever would have came to that conclusion. I put all my faith in msLSD for my news and they would never say anything that they didn’t belive was true.
Report Post »MissCherryJones
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:32pmWell, there ya go. Although, those same folks that said this was caused by talk radio will somehow find a way to spin this, still laying the blame on conservative talking heads. It’s a sad time in America when a tragedy such as this has almost taken a backseat to political nitpicking. I pray for all involved in Arizona.
Report Post »Mikee T
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:32pmExactly what I have been saying to people and writing about since the tragedy. This guy was a reclusive, pyscopath…….period. He “gathered” what he determined as his knowledge about politics from resources like Mein Kampf (Hitler the author) and the Communist Manifesto…….both references most closely resemble what movement ? Progressive or Conservative ? CASE CLOSED….MORONS especially @MIDDLE CLASS PROPHET …please go hang out on a lib site…
Report Post »constitutionaldirective
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:32pmGod bless the Congresswoman.. The CONSERVATIVE, PRO-NRA, BLUEDOG Democrat, the VICTIM OF A MADMAN….and those innocents who just happened to be there.. God bless America.. the victim of Statist-Progressive propaganda machine .. At least America NOW knows WHO they are! Olbermann, Moyer, Krugman & Co.
Report Post »250superduty
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 3:59pmHOBBS57…….
Report Post »quite interesting…I think you are on to something..
UpstateNYConservative
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:32pmIf the MSM covers this to a greater extent, it collectively will still maintain ‘right-wing hate rhetoric’ drove him to his act. Just because he didn’t take a political side is no reason to assume the original template is somehow incorrect. Lefties will never backpedal that far, like with the ‘quotes’ attributed to Rush that were later proved to be made up lies. Even though Rush never said the things he was accused of saying, Lefties simply concluded, “He may never have it but we know he thinks it.”
Report Post »TennesseeConservative
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:41pmFunny how conservatives think a like. Truth is truth. The shooter is just evil. Who really cares what his political views are. I guess the left does.
Report Post »Hobbs57
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:34pmYour 100% correct… I noticed many of the Dem‘s who were the first to jump on stage misquoting statements and saying them in a manner the not only didn’t reflect the truth of what was said, but changed the words around in a way that sounds evil and hateful. I guess that is how they hear things in their head. I have learned over these many years of studying psychology that those who are of unsound minds and baseless in their ideals and thinking, have no foundation in thought, so it is impossible for them to grasp reality as it truly exists. The only reality they know is the illusion of which the their fears have driven into thought. So it is the man who is quick to yell racist, who consciously , only claims to not be a racist because of fear of what perception would be of them maybe not exactly because they are a racist, but because of the fear of the world knowing the really only care about themselves and in reality are not only racist but could care less about any other human being, no matter what the type, make or model, for they are only concerned with themselves and what can be used to serve themselves. To elaborate, if I was to hate all people on earth equally, no person could make a claim I was prejudice, for I do not discriminate or care what make or model, I don’t like anybody. You will even hear this in their rhetoric often times, revealing the true selfishness of these people. Imagine the challenge of living a life knowing you only care about yourself, selfish to the core, yet, understanding you must appear the exact opposite if you wish to be liked and use others to serve your selfish needs. I would imagine this is why the most intelligent of the intellects is those whom the progressives admire the most. This would also help to understand why communism or socialism is so appealing to them, for if the government is made to be the care taker, they no longer have to participate or pretend they wish to help others, they are alleviated of the mundane and highly exhausting task of maintaining a dimension of this “popular” person of whom is only a reflection of the perception they project towards others. This is why the truth makes them so angry, for, it “blazes” through their persona and reveals them for the spoiled selfish brats they really are. I can on and on, for these people are baseless and out of touch with reality. To even hear the word God in school or see God on money, has become so scares these people to the core, as this symbol reminds them of who they really are and breaks through the great “lie” of which they call their life. If forced to take a moral account in any form is death of the person of whom they think they are. They can not find happiness because they are so far removed from their true selves, they no longer even know what it is that will make them happy. All they know is ego and pride, the shield they must maintian at all costs, this is where they find their peace. By playing the very God the deny, believing they can control all the factors of the world, truly believing that is only everybody in the world would just listen to them, then their lives would be perfect. They care not about you, but they do care that nobody find out they are a fraud of a person. These people are the disease of our society, it these people who cause the righteous to step away from the light only to avoid being trampled on by the self serving act‘s of these sociopath’s . All that matters to them, is first, they are preserved and serviced in the highest degree, that people think they are special and great, and that they get whatever they want at any costs. They are capable of justifying all their actions even with the support of their peers, through who, use each other for the same reasons. These people live in a constant fear of being found out to be a fraud all the while becoming a master at acting and mimicking the personalities they perceive will best get them what they want. Sick twisted people they are as they have been the cause of the fall of civilized societies since the begining of time.
Report Post »SO this is why they plainly misquote and outright lie when spewing their rambles of fear. They will not only violently fight anybody who calls for them to face the truth, but will also fight for any of their peers of whom if the truth is leanred about them, they themselves may very well be found out too…
barbaraw62
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 4:01pmHOBBS: Thank you for the very, very important information…….gives us all a reason not to answer such unthinking, small minded people who post ridiculous comments on stories here… They are fools who have no thinking capacity and if they did they would be humbled and have to question their whole existence… we all should remember this and as Glenn says, “Question with boldness, even the existence of God.” For when we question we are thinking… and that’s a Good thing!
Report Post »Ilovenh1
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 4:21pmHey hobbs57 what do you think about this comment I made for the Bill Maher story.
“STOP THIS BULL$H!T ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION ALREADY!
“AMERICANS ARE STUPID AND NEED THE LEFT TO TO *DRAG* THEM INTO DOING WHAT *W E* KNOW IS RIGHT!
“IF ONLY OBAMA COULD BE A *DICTATOR* JUST FOR ONE DAY!
Bill Maher is part of the one to two percent of the population that has always been around and most likely always will be, that suffers from the SEVERE mental illness of thinking that they are such vastly superior beings, they were put on this earth to rule over us like the kings of old and WE were put here to follow their direction.
Their mere opinions equate to logic itself and to disagree is illogical and taken as an insult to their hyper-narcissistic opinion of themselves which is one of their justifications for their intense hatred for anyone not like them!
As regular people, it is hard to think like this, but they do exist and are attracted to positions of authority like a drug addict is to drawn rob the cash register at the nearest convenience store!
Report Post »tomkaighin
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 7:42pm@Hobbs – Love the comments but really…they invented paragraphs for a reason. Keep up the good work but hit the enter key every once in a while 8-)
Report Post »Hobbs57
Posted on January 13, 2011 at 12:20amYeah, thanks Tom…lol I am much better at speaking, the writing part is still coming along. I don’t even know how you guys/gals can understand what I wrote…lol
Report Post »I will work on that though .. thanks again ..
benastros
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:29pmI would think that is load and clear.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 2:25pmHOBBS57….sounds like a critique of the philosophy of existentialism. Camus and Sartre. Camus actually thought he could will the world into oblivion!
Report Post »tomkaighin
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 7:29pmLOL, I like ‘Load and Clear’ – which reminds me, I haven’t practiced field stripping my Daisy BB Gun lately
Report Post »justsaying
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:29pmSo who do we blame now….
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:30pmThe shooter? No, that’s crazy talk!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:41pmI’m going to blame….
*rolls dice*
The Republic of Congo!
Report Post »FatherOf2FromNJ
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:28pmI will sit quietly now and await the apologies to come in from the flapping heads in the MSM. Still waiting……. still waiting …… still….
Report Post »Mikee T
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:37pm@MIDDLE….we are waiting……….not that we need validation from the likes of you young ‘ns. Don’t you get it ? Common sense would have told you this guy would not even be remotely attracted to conservative talk radio programs or web sites or even Fox news channel… Of course, a degree of common sense would have to be applied……get it ? You don’t get it about anything ? Come on over to the bright / light / right side bud / gal …..get off the dark side it’s only going to torment you forever..
Report Post »ENTITLEMENTSBLOW
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:39pmzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Report Post »T-2
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:40pmhave a sneaker while you wait….oh wait… that’s too fattening
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:47pmPlease don’t hold your breath. They’ll be serving snow cones in H-ll before an apology is forthcoming.
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:50pm……not yet still waiting……..
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:23pm-T-2-
What’s a sneaker?
Report Post »terryu1
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:35pmThere will be no apology ’cause they still will not believe they were wrong. They will say the kid was’nt a friend for some two years so THEY know more about his motivew than the friend does. Whatever satisfies their goals is justified. That is why I never even bother reading any of those Lib blogs any longer.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 2:14pmmiddlwclass …I guess a sneaker is a sweet bit of empty calories that you secret away and eat when no-one is watching. Not that I have any first hand knowledge. ahem.
Report Post »IntheKnowOG
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 6:31pm@middleclassprophet
A shoe, ie: Open mouth, insert foot. Aren’t you the troll that calls Beck fans stupid? Perhaps you were attempting to be humorous? EPIC FAIL.
Report Post »tomkaighin
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 7:25pmTo MCP – Sneaker – something your dog eats…or at least mine do, or a ‘proported’ Lib Intelectual (sry to the rest of you for the blatant oxymoron)
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:27pmOnce again, the knee-jerks on the left were wrong.
Report Post »Mister President
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:50pmThey don’t care about being wrong. The ends justify the means. They just need to keep their narrative going. Lies become truth when the truth is decided beforehand. They’ve already decided talk radio causes this, so when something like this happens, it‘s talk radio’s fault. Read liberal sites like Digg.com or Reddit.com. You can’t even debate those people. Even when you point out their hypocrisy and back them into a corner, they just vote down your comments.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:32pmMISTER PRESIDENT agree, they just try to attach a stigma to a person or group they don’t like.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:48pm@texascommomaense….Of course you are right, but the accusations always get the airplay, the correction.has to catch up.
Report Post »To me this is an example of spiritual desolation. No GOD in one’s life= no morals, hope or conscience.
My hope is that he will someday be healed and comes to know repentance and redemption.
There was ample reason for the people around jared, to be concerned about his emotional stability, including our left leaning sherrif. I read where he had MANY runnins with jared, with no cloture anytime. Things like threats. We need to ask the sheriff and the parents about that.
TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 5:12pmI heard today the sheriff‘s department won’t release the public records concerning Jared. That’s no surprise.
Report Post »LEARN-FROM-THE-GIANTS
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:26pmNeither do the Democrats but they sure have plenty to say about what they don’t listen to.
sofaking obvious
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:28pmGuns kill people like pencils miss spell words.
Report Post »chickenlittle
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:30pm@Learn… That is the BEST comment I have seen on here, ever!
Report Post »TX Progressive
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:32pmgood point, wish it made sense
Report Post »Michiganjohn
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:33pmI wish we handn’t allowed our schools to destroy critical thinking in America. It makes it so easy for liberals to believe obvious lies without question.
“Question with boldness…..”
Report Post »GeauxAlready
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:39pm.
Report Post »Not quite what the left wanted to hear.
This kid will get the Joe the Plumber treatment for that statement….
NoMoreGray
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:44pmYes, but they weren’t concerned with the truth or even if the truth would eventually dispute them, as it has. They did what they always do, get out quick, splatter the “news” with “targeted” claims and accusations. They do this knowing that even if proven wrong the truth will not get the play that the lies did.
Report Post »All we can do is make sure our Rep‘s and Sen’s we have not been fooled and we will hold them responsible in 2012 for any actions taken as a result of these lies. WE will no longer accept rash regulation as a result of political wrangling (ie: Peter King) Tell congress you are sorry for what happened and you pray for their safety, now get back to what we sent you to DC for in November.
Taquoshi
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:45pmYou all clearly don’t understand.
Jared didn’t need a radio or TV to hear to Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, Savage, George W. Bush, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and all the other conservatives out there. He heard the voices in his head, just like Sheriff Dupnik does.
That‘s why it’s their fault. It doesn‘t matter what they did or didn’t say. It doesn’t matter what the facts are. What matters to these people is that conservatives are evil, Evil, EVIL!!!!
Only Olberman, Mathews, Maddow, the NYT and MSNBC are the truth and the light. Don’t get confused here.
sofaking obvious
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:46pmBlaming talk radio for violence, while ignoring liberal Hollywood’s constant glorification of guns, drugs and vigilantism
Report Post »republitarian
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:49pmSo true! And amusing that Tx Progressive doesn’t get it.
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:51pmuncle fester> anyone else ss it?
Report Post »NoMoreGray
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:52pmmake sure our Rep‘s and Sen’s KNOW we have not been fooled
Report Post »sucks when you get thinking faster than you can type.. !: )
Mikeyyy
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:57pmsure hope the liberal progressives don’t read this fact about Jared Loughner, it might totally change who they can blame this tragedy on. blame anyone but the shooter!
Report Post »sofaking obvious
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:58pm@ TX Progressive- It’s not too difficult. The person using the tool ultimately has the control. Tools do not make mistakes, people do. More gun control is not the answer.
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:58pmGreat quote found on Guerillatic.com
“We must reject the idea that every time a law’s broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.” Ronald Reagan
Go, Dutch!
Report Post »j_man
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:00pmI’ve seen theZeitgist movie. It’s one of the most anti gov anti-business commie movies ever. They talk about a world where technology runs your everyday life and there are no classes in society. Nobody talks about how they woulhave to take power to make the machines to run your would
Report Post »keldras
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:02pmDid anyone know that Zeitgeist is extreme left propaganda. http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?Itemid=50 if you don’t believe me. If you look at the top news related links you find the Huffington Post and the New York times. If you want to read something really scary download the designing the future PDF.
Report Post »You can’t tell me with a straight face that this guy had NO political ideas.
It’s no wonder why he snapped. But it‘s still the Tea Party’s fault….
DashRipRock
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:07pmIm just curious
Report Post »Will we have to wait for Julianne Assange to release The Pima County Sheriff’s file on Jared Loughner
on wikileaks?
Buttercup
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:09pm“misspell.”
Report Post »Buttercup
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:12pmTaquoshi, you are clearly delusional and YOU should get some professional help yourself.
Report Post »sofaking obvious
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:13pm@ Taquoshi
Report Post »LOL…… I wonder what ratio of violent criminals in prision are liberal compared to conservative?
You want to reconsider or rethink your evaluation of who inspires violence and who is prepared to react to it. Check your liberal music outlets and Hollywood films before you point your boney little finger at educational news outlets or politicians that actually believe in the constitution. You progressives are whiney little b………………..
Cliff
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:14pmwow his friends description of him and his family is almost a ringer for most democrats I know!!! Strange!!!
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:22pmThe right is saying the exact same thing.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:23pm@republitarian…..Oh, he gets it alright. he gets it much better than he wants to. Its like asking prog ,”What is Bill Ayers doing on Obama’s payroll.? ” They know what the real answer is, but can’t say, without staining the messiah.
Report Post »republitarian
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:25pmTaquoshi had a sarcasm attack. Read his next post.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:30pmI’ve been concerned about “first person shooter” video games, for some time now. Has anyone heard anything about loughner playing any?
Report Post »Osler, is a very compassionate young man. I hope he realizes that he’s not to take any blame for this tragedy. I feel for him.
terryu1
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:31pmTX PROGRESSIVE is an example of the comment. He is a troll on conservative sites who will claim he doesn’t listen to or pay attention to any of views from the other side yet here he is LOL.
Report Post »terryu1
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:39pmMax jones – no offense intended but I don‘t see why there HAS to be a trigger that you can point to and say THAT’s IT, that’s why he did it. I believe he was just a trouble young man who lived in a make believe world which was constructed in his mind after years and years of interaction with others intermingled with his personal experiences (and lack thereof) until such a time that he just acted out. I really think that this is something that stewed for many years.
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:46pmWe know he was taught Bill Ayers designed curriculum…
When are the press going to ask what materials Loughner was exposed to in high school that allowed him to find the evil anarchist path he choose?
It’s obvious the parents have no influence on what Loughner was digesting in class and online…
Being raised in an emotionally and morally detached home, Loughner would have been ripe for indoctrination by curriculum…
Something to think about…
Report Post »Rn mom
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:47pmEveryone is deflecting from the real issue: Loughner made his own choice. He may be a madman/ crazy/ brain fizzled by drugs, but he still decided to bring a gun to a town hall meeting and gun down innocent people. Every single time he pulled the trigger he made that choice.
Don’t fall into the trap of thinking that more laws would have prevented this man from committing this heinous crime. He was already on everyone’s radar for his behavior. One more law enacted because of him is just another way of saying he has no personal responsibility and we all must be protected from ourselves.
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:51pmProgressives never let facts impede their propaganda……
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:52pmThe problem with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, it is that they know so much that is not so.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:53pmThat pretty well sums up the veracity of the Dems’ claims.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 2:03pmTERRYU1…I know you are correct, I have been thinking lately that first person shooter games might make it easier to do. I guess it is naive of me to believe that everyone is wired correctly to start,huh?
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 2:07pmI guess this makes the Democrats in the government and left wing news media who commented on this look like depraved idiots. Oh – we already knew that – never mind.
Report Post »Ken
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 2:12pm@Sofaking: That‘s precisely why they don’t blame Hollywood…because they would have to remove those unsavory items from their movies! So it’s much easier to blame conservatives and conservative talk show hosts!
Report Post »White Devil
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 2:16pmIt doesn‘t matter that he didn’t listen to conservative talk radio. The left says he did, thus he did.
Report Post »sofaking obvious
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 2:34pmKEN- Agreed. I have to admit I watch ‘Family Guy’ (very liberal) and as I was watching last night I saw 3 different characters, at 3 different times, point guns at people. I thought to myself, “where do I see the most violence?” Simple answer, movies and TV. Add music to that and you’re looking at 3 predominately liberal outlets “inspiring violence”. Within those outlets there is no ambiguity, symbolism or room for interpretation. It’s actual visual and audible acts of violence. I don’t think they should be censored, but if we’re going to open up a can of worms………..
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 2:43pmNever let the truth get in the way …“ of a good crisis ” to exploit.
Report Post »patrioticteen
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 2:46pmSofakingobvious,
Report Post »So did Christopher Columbus discover America or did his ships?
jgeezy
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 3:14pmWow, wow, wow, wait a minute. You mean to tell me, that this sociopath, wasn’t a tea partier, or a evil Christian, or Sarah Palin’s evil minion. That would be my reaction if I saw this article and only watched MSNBC.
http://practicalpolitician.wordpress.com/
Report Post »sofaking obvious
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 4:05pm@ patrioticteen- LOL. It would have to be Chris. Ships don’t sail themselves.
Report Post »foolsgold
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 4:34pmGlenn Beck supports the Tea Party.
Loughner is a Beck acolyte: Loughner’s words on his white on black text youtube video on currency and the gold standard are EXACTLY like Becks crazy chalkboard writings on the gold standard & revolution. [Dump the US$ says Beck -- rather buy gold from Goldline, who amazingly just happen to be Beck's #1 sponsor.]
Where else would some kid with virtually NO eduction get these (loony) gold standard + revolution currency ideas from? Comic books? Nah — The Glenn Beck comic show where it is highlighted EVERY SINGLE DAY on TV.
See Loughner’s youtube video at 3:30 –> thats the smoking gun LINK TO BECK & The Tea Party
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jblaze
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 4:46pmHas anyone checked out this http://www.zeitgeistaddendum.com/ it is very creepy! This is the group Zach Osler said that drove Jared Loughner off the deep end.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 5:04pmI mean, just look at this maniac’s FACE! King of the Manchurian Moonbats!
Report Post »DTE727
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 5:24pmWhen you are checking out the Zeitgeist Movement, be sure to check out the parent – The Venus Project.
Report Post »MeJane
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 5:43pmYou know what that means in the twisted mind of the progressives – YES, YOU GOT IT – THE INTERNET IS TO BLAME!!!!! Wait and see….. I’ll bet the FCC is meeting at this very moment to “FIX” the non existent problem with more takings. Never waste a good tragedy.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 5:52pm“Osler also said that Loughner’s favorite quote was, “Out of chaos breathes creation.””
Hey, that‘s the Fabian Socialist’s mentality:
“Ah Love! Could thou and I with fate conspire
Report Post »To grasp this sorry Scheme of Things entire,
Would we not shatter it to bits – and then
Re-mould it nearer to the Heart’s Desire.”
IntheKnowOG
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 6:38pm@foolsgold
Holy sh$t are you ignorant. Where else would a kid get a loony idea about the gold standard? I don’t know, maybe this thing called a book, internet, library, etc…Good lord you are daft. Next thing you’ll be telling us Brad Pitt is responsible for white supremacists because, where else would someone learn about “Natzees” except for a movie he was in. I need some excedrin, you liberal morons give me a headache with your logical fallacies.
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 7:20pmAS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.
We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.
We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.
With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.
When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “Stick to the Devil you know.”
On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”
In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”
Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.
As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
Report Post »When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
64wildcat
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 9:12pmI never knew an inanimate object to kill some one, are these guns falling from trees and hitting people in the head. Inanimate objects in this case (a gun) needed human interaction to do harm. With out a human at the trigger no harm could have came to any one from the gun.
Report Post »ENTITLEMENTSBLOW
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:46pmHe’ll probably respond by saying that Beck is racist… race card is all they ever play!
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