(Updated) AZ Shooting Survivor Arrested for Death Threat Against Tea Party Leader
- Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:46pm by
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J. Eric Fuller
J. Eric Fuller, a survivor of last weekend’s shooting massacre in Tucson, gained national notoriety this week after claiming shooter Jared Lee Loughner got conservatives Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin their “first target.” The Blaze also brought you the story of Trent Humphries, a Tucson-area tea party leader who was warned by police to “stay away from public places” as his organization was being targeted with threats following the shooting.
On Saturday morning, Fuller and Humphries met during a town hall-style event hosted by ABC’s Christianne Amanpour that featured family members of victims, Tucson citizens and community leaders. Toward the end of the meeting, local news reports that Fuller objected to comments made by Humphries and Arizona state Rep. Terri Proud, a Republican. In response, Fuller took a photo of Humphries and told him, “You’re dead.”‘
Pima County police deputies immediately escorted Fuller from the room. The Sheriff’s spokesman, Jason Ogan, confirmed Saturday afternoon that Fuller has been charged with threats & intimidation and disorderly conduct.
Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier: MyFoxPHOENIX.com
The ABC News town hall meeting, dubbed “After the Tragedy: An American Conversation Continued,” is set to air on Sunday morning, but it was not clear whether Fuller’s comments would be included in the final broadcast.
Also in attendance for the town hall meeting were Mayor Bob Walkup, Democratic Congressman Raul Grijalva, and former Congressman Jim Kolbe.
h/t Fox News
Update: ABC News is reporting that as sheriff’s deputies escorted Fuller from the forum, he could be heard screaming, “What’s the matter–with you–whores!” Additionally, ABC notes that Fuller was taken to a nearby mental health facility.
Update II: A Pima County Sheriff’s spokesman has confirmed that Fuller was “involuntarily” admitted to a mental health treatment facility Saturday and will be held there until the hospital determines his release. If Humphries decides not to press charges, the charges will be dropped, Deputy Jason Ogan told KNXV in Phoenix.
In the days since last week’s shooting, Fuller has been spotted around town, visiting with reporters at the scene of the crime. Fuller also reportedly attempted to visit the parents of Jared Lee Loughner, showing up unannounced at their home on Friday. Though the Loughners were not home, Fuller took some time to speak to a local news crew:
Update III: ABC News briefly touched on Fuller‘s threat Saturday evening during a plug for Sunday morning’s town hall discussion broadcast. For some reason, however, ABC failed to mention the threat was made against tea party leader Trent Humphries, simply noting that Fuller had been charged with a misdemeanor (h/t Newsbusters):
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Comments (599)
sweetnsalty
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:06pmThe socialists are sinking and are flailing to save themselves. It’s only going to get uglier.
Report Post »AKMIIKEUS
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:40pmAfter reading some of these replies, sounds like to me that some of you Tea Partiers are running scared.
Report Post »Mikee T
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:46pmRunning scard of what ? Liberals ? Think again moron….
Report Post »WhiteTeaParty
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:55pmOh yeah, they are running scared now, that is for sure.
Earlier last year when the threats were being made against the democrat congressmen and women, during the health care debate this didn’t make it on Fox News, or the Blaze.
Now all of a sudden it’s Front Page news.
Sounds to me that the White Tea Partiers are going to have start hiring secruity at their next all white party.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:59pmAKMIKEUS, mostly see hate and anger. Oh wait, that’s supposed to be only from the left. Guess there are alot of lefties in here ;)
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:15pmWTP, why do you lie?
Report Post »WhiteTeaParty
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:39pmStating the facts, not lying.
These threats meant nothing last year, now all of a sudden they mean something.
Run Sarah, Run
Sparky101
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:58pmWTP, we asked for your proof, not a regurtiation of your allegations. You do understand that don’t you?
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 7:21amFrom the troll Whiteteaparty – crickets (of course). I do hope you all are making a note of this and will avoid WTP in the future.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:02pmUnfortunately this isn’t over as long as idiots (on whichever side) stop trying to blame anyone except the man who pulled the trigger!
I think it’s about time an arrest was made on the left………
Take a look:
Report Post »o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s4YfBKs39Y
PA PATRIOT
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:23pmFrom a trusted individual. Be sure to read the last line…
“”God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
Report Post »The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. …
And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure.”
Thomas Jefferson
November 13, 1787
NancyBee
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:29pmThat is the most awful video I have ever watched….I can’t believe there are actual people like that walking around. God help us!
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:59pmPA PATRIOT: Just doesn’t get any better than that… However, I beleive it’s time we go our separate ways in order to avoid much blood shed. No reason to stay together when we are such polar opposties.
Report Post »Refounderparty
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:01pmJust saw the video. Sick, I wonder how these crazies plan to do this. They don’t like or own guns. So they say.
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:45pmtechengineer11
I am having a difficult time following your logic?
“I believe it’s time we go our separate ways (Please define the parties you are talking about) in order to avoid much blood shed. No reason to stay together when we (Who) are such polar opposites.
In response to your reference to the preceding dialog, No polar opposites should stay together… I believe the lawyers call it “Irreconcilable Differences” in the context of marriage. No reason to shoot one another.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 10:46pm@PA PATRIOT
Report Post »If you figure that out please let me know. I’m lost on that one……..
PA PATRIOT
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 11:08am82dAirborne
The cat must have gotten his tounge.
Report Post »CaptainSpaulding
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:01pmTypical liberal.
I‘m sensing he’ll be invited to Olberman and Maher’s shows. :)
Report Post »timej31
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:01pmOh my God the left is unhinged! They are so violent and totally radical.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 11:06pmya know, “totally radical” is a compliment :)
Report Post »LadybugsTX
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 1:46amNot in that context Tinkerbell.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 11:51amTrying to bug me lady? ;) (btw, seems like you’re a “Disney-don’t.” Tinkerbell is blonde with a green dress. :)
Report Post »Jimbo49
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 4:29pmTifosa- As a young radical in the mid sixties, I was told many different things. One that stuck with me, was as follows: “Never trust anyone under thirty who isn’t a radical, and never trust anyone over thirty who still is.” That would explain my political evolution, as wel as my distrust for the current crew running many things in this country. How old are you?
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on January 17, 2011 at 9:13amOld enough to know better than to answer, young enough to remember that I know better ;)
Report Post »FckKeithUberdouche
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:01pmNo no, don’t denounce him! He didn’t know what he was saying! He’s distraught! He’s on a lot of medication! Please, please don’t judge him! The left today is just a product of brainwashing zealots who have been doing hard drugs for 4 decades straight. They are DELUSIONAL, and we should start treating them as such. These people wan’t NO PART of challenging political debate. Present them with the recent study that elected officials know less about the Constitution than the general population, and the Maherites will tell you to, “shut the hell up about the Constitution already.” They care nothing about it. It’s a deterrant to them and their, “utopian society,” which they don’t realize is actually a Gustapo Police State.
Report Post »sweetnsalty
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:00pmThat map did not cause this, grow up.
Report Post »hkyfan36
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:11pm@Sweet Yea got that … I will agree with you.
Report Post »hkyfan36
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:13pmAnd are you making fun of me because I am only 5′1″. What does my height have to do with anything?
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:17pmopportunist….They pray for a right-winger to do something like this. If all it took was a map ….I would draw one of Broker’s 101 basement…….
Report Post »BiteMePETA
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:59pmAnyone surprised? Think the MSM will blame itself for this?
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:59pmwarned by police to “stay away from public places”………Watch him be blamed because he didn’t heed their warning.
Report Post »Volsense
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:58pmThe unbelievable hate and bigotry spewing from everywhere on the left will only intensify until the elections. The left has never had as much power and then to have it reduced in history. That is why the hatred and lies from the left is because they are suffering from the November election and will no away easy. As they proceed, they will expose for all that liberalism is a mental disorder.
Report Post »Capt_Spalding
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:57pmABC better show EVERY. SECOND. of this! Not to mention the fact that we won’t hear squat about it anywhere else.
Report Post »ovrwlmd
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:12pmIf they do, they will say it is proof that the American people are so angry with Palin and Beck that they are turning their anger to the nearest conservative leader …. or some crap like that.
Report Post »Carbon Pootprint
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:56pmSee See See they’re all alike. Quick someone get the cops watching all the leftist nuts on pmsnbc before they hurt someone. geesshhhhh
Report Post »EZDOZIT
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:06pmDemocrat’s Base.
Report Post »Pat Alexander
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:54pmI guess he didn’t hear about the civility thingy ???
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:54pmQuestion of the day: will Olbermann, Clyburn, Schultz, Sheriff Dumbnik, Paul Krugmqn apologize for inciting violence against the Tea Party which had ZEEEEEEEEEEEEERO to do with the Tucson Massacre???
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:34pmwhen hell freezes over then they might
Report Post »Lucy Larue
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:46pmNick,
Report Post »They absolutely should. They absolutely will not.
chazman
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:05pmI’m tired of turning the other cheek …
Report Post »Jim in Houston
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:42pmDon’t hold your breath,you won’t look good in blue.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 12:28pmNick, inciting violence against the tea party? How so? Is just speaking against them inciting violence?
Report Post »APatriotFirst
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:54pmStupidity just never ends.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:44pmWe need more cliffs……. (think about it)
Report Post »hkyfan36
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:53pmHe must of had some ribs with Bullseye bbq sauce that he bought at Target. After eating he said “That hit the spot!”
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:59pmHe should stick to Tombstone pizza
Report Post »Toodumtu
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:29pmMaybe a Big Mac would have sufficed.
Report Post »CarolinaGirl
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:53pmThis is one angry man. And it sounds as though he‘s capable of physically harming others in the name of ’politics”. As with the Arizona shooter, Fuller needs mental health treatment.
Report Post »Nigel2
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:52pmNice to see the lefts’ true colors shining so brightly:-)
Report Post »johnniereb
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:52pmAnd he was originally reported as a disbled veteran, I thought there was something wrong with this man. Maybe someone should also check his disability claim.
Report Post »123gone
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:59pmAmen to checking out that scumbag Fuller, but –
God bless you Humphries!
You did the right thing, meeting with him. I am damn proud of you, and every member of the Tea Party’s across this Nation should look at you and proudly say: There is a man who knows how to walk the walk. We need more Tea Party Leaders just like him.
God bless our Republic.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:48pmThis is another guy … two have come out .. one blaming the TEA Party (the vet) and one threatening a leader of the local TEA Party(this one) .. sounds to me like the left in PIMA county are DANGEROUS .. add in the shooter who is also a leftist.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:52pmSocial Justice
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:18pmAmazing that liberals feel that directives from the president to remain civil don’t apply to them. The president needs to stick out his finger and raise his nose on high and make is trademark statement, Make no mistake. Change isn’t easy. … “Now, let me be clear,” call his party out by name and remind them to be civil.
Should he fail to do so, his no-action is evident of his desire for civil unrest (he speaks in opposites).
Report Post »neverending
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:52pmSurprised it wasn’t grivalva. Walkup isn’t much better.
Report Post »Diamond Girl
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:34pmYou and me both…this jerk will just get a slap on the hand…after-all, he’s a dem.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:53pmWhat’s with Kolbe chiming in? Was it the G-String that got his attention?
Report Post »Ashley
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:51pmNot surprised . . . the violent rhetoric comes from the left, not the right. The proof of this keeps piling up, yet the left “talking heads” keep pushing the “violence on the right” narrative to the masses. It is like living in an alternate universe of fantasy to listen to the left.
Report Post »bry
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:21pm@Ashley…I too feel like I live in Bizzaro world. This IS insanity, did an enemy of the state put someting in the drinking water?
As for the left, they feel they can issue any hate words they want towards the “right” and feel justified.
Never forget, when Obama went to West Point to talk about troops in Afganistan, Chis Mathews scratched is head and wondered aloud,“why is he going to the ”enemy” camp?” outrageous example of the brain damaged lefts thought process, or lack thereof.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {cat folk art}
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:41pmThe problem currently with the left and the Progressives seems to be that they have hit a point in being so far to the left, the conservative and restrained liberals are beyond the normal as well. This type of mess is only going to continue until they get the ‘events’ the extremists want to bring down the country; and will manufacture them if they have to do so.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 10:14pmAre you saying that something that’s put out by media can drive someone to do something violent? or maybe create an atmosphere that appears to condone violence? For a week I‘ve been reading in here that it’s THE INDIVIDUAL IS AT FAULT. Interesting turn-about…
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 11:33amI literally just finished reading Bernard Goldberg’s book “Arrogance”, which is his follow-up work to his first book “Bias”. I started it about four days ago and I was absolutely chilled when I read his preface. “Arrogance” was written in 2003, long before Sarah or Glenn were on the radar screen. I recommend both books to everyone who hasn’t read them.
One friend said that she doesn’t believe news stories unless a reputable news source carries them, like the New York Times or the Boston Globe. I made sure to send her this quote from the book -
One of the quotes from ARROGANCE is unbelievable:
“A veteran TV cameraman ((a freelancer who depends on the networks for his liveilhood and therefore asked that I not use his name) told me that he was in the Persian Gulf in the late 1980′s covering the Iran-Iraq ware when “I saw a tanker being attacked. Mobile phones were new back then, and I called the network foreign desk in New York to let them know that we had some pretty dramatic tape of the actual attack. And the person in charge in New York said to me, “There’s nothing on the wires about it.“ We keep saying ”It’s happening right in front of our eyes,” and New York keeps saying, “It’s not on the wires.” Because it wasn’t on AP or Reuters, the editor wasn’t interested.”So the cameraman did what a lot of other frustrated journalists in the field have done. “I called the [local] guy from the wire services; who then put the story out. Then I get a call from the same editor in New York who is suddenly interested and says, “Send us the tape of the tanker that was attacked.”
You see, this editor in New York wouldn’t trust what his own cameraman was seeing with his own eyes. He needed to see the story in print first; then, and only then would he know it was real, legitimate news.” (Arrogance, pp 59-60)
It’s very, very sad that the MSM is so slanted, but they don’t realize it, simply because everyone they know thinks like they do.
Report Post »hkyfan36
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:50pmCan some one take down the Sarah Palin target map
Report Post »Caniac Steve
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:08pmIf you mean that seeing that the “mid term” elections are done and over…then yes,by all means they should do so…but if this something “ new” as in and like planninbg for 2012,then under “free speech” even though some are or would be offended…it should stay of as there is nothing in the any document that protects us from being :offended or insulting our sensabilities is there ? again I se and understand your point,but i do respewctfully disagree with you…have a good week end
Report Post »Timsincali
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:16pmWhy?
Report Post »Restored One
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:50pmWhat a GOTCHA moment. ABC better include this in the airing tomorrow.
Report Post »oldfashionamerican
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:54pmDon’t hold your breath for any state run media to cover this.
Report Post »boris_the_blade
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:59pmThat will end up on the “cutting room floor”.
Report Post »puck30
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:03pmYou can pretty much bet the farm this part won’t make it to air. I would be shocked if it did. Good catch Meredith, if it wasn‘t for folks like you we wouldn’t know about this.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:36pmYou’d know if you read KGUN (a source of close-up info. about this tragedy) or almost any of the other news sites as well.
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:51pmI‘m glad that he’s still alive but I‘m sad that he’s still a lib-loon .
Report Post »1TrueOne55
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:20pmLooks like the attempt to get the right riled backfired and it got the lefty instead. It was way to soon to put these two people in the same building let alone the same studio. I put some of the blame on Christian Ammanpur she would have clearly known that something like this could happen and if she did then we should figure out who the target was.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 10:04pm@SPARKY
I’d like to meet you on the school yard, you LIBTURD!!
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 12:50am@ CHAZMAN
I think he’s saying that someone stole his name , The Blaze should be able to have a better protection with our Log On names , also pics with the name could help .
Report Post »joan k
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:50pmIt is time to move on. The dead are buried and the injured are healing. There are nutcases and Jared Loughner was one of them. The political pundits on both sides of the aisle need to STFU. I can’t wait to get beyond this event.
Report Post »Lucy Larue
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:00pmJoanK.,
Report Post »BOTH sides?! BOTH sides?!
Please oh please Joan K. give me ONE example of “RIGHT WING” hate.
Bottom line Joan K….,both sides do not need to STFU. ONE side needs to do that.
Can you guess which side Joan K.?
Here’s a clue. I am LEFT handed. Puzzle that!
RECOVERING-LIBERAL-IN-WOODSIDE-CA
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:07pmI was thinking about buying a vacation property in AZ. But now I am not sure. This whole media circus has brought out all of the extremist nuts. It has given them a stage. I hope God is watching.
Report Post »Timsincali
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:15pmStfu
Report Post »ThinktownUSA
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:15pmYou are so right! Both sides saying the other side says mean things and hurts the others’ feelings. Give me a break! There’s some big things going on all over the world right now. This story is dead. (And I don’t mean that as a tasteless joke. I’m talking about the STORY you pansies!)
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:19pmI agree with Lucy .. what both sides .. the hate and threats have been and continue to be from the left …and they are pointing fingers at the right .. it is called PROJECTION.
Report Post »handloader
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:28pmJoan K, as long as the left controls all of the big media outlets this event and any other like it we will not be allowed to “get beyond it”. As far as “both sides shutting up”, that is just what the left wants. If those of us who are innocent of wrongdoing allow the enemy to lie and distort without responding, then the sheep who don’t pay attention will not know the truth and will believe what the state-run leftist media tell them. We on the right need to do exactly the opposite of shutting up; we need to continue to shout the truth from every podium available to us. Thank God for Glenn Beck, Rush, Sarah Palin, and the rest for their help in telling America exactly who this Loughner scumbag was, and what he was about. He was about as far from “right wing” as it gets, and the majority of the American people understand that now thanks to those on the right who didn’t just “shut up”.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:31pmTake your own advice, dumbazz.
OneRepublic4us
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:34pmto RECOVERING-LIBERAL-IN-WOODSIDE-CA
Report Post »Just so you know. Most of Arizona isn’t communists and lefties.I’m beginning to think the Mexican drug cartels are putting something in the water in the Tucson area.
what4
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:49pmJust like you and your people would right Joan…LMAO It’s the hate filled left crybabies who keep the conversation going, and yes we will answer back! So tired of the idiots on the left trying to tell us what to do how to think how to act…Get your own house in order, then we’ll talk! Now STFU!
Report Post »rickroland
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:51pmUh, no, sorry.
FIFTY THREE MINUTES after this tragedy specific people on the right and an entire large political movement in this country were outright accused of being complicit in this horrific shooting.
And when their baseless accusations were pointed out to the accusers, did they look at A) what they said and B) seeing that they had no evidence quickly retract their accusations and apologies? Heck no! They just kept on saying the same *exact* things.
Hardly *civil” at all, wouldn’t you agree?
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:56pmSo far, the insanity has all been coming from the progressive/marxist left. I would place complete responsibility for this little temper tantrum on THEIR violent rhetoric which has been building ever since the first lies were cast by then immediately after the shooting.
Report Post »If anybody should be the ones who “Shut the F–K up”, it should be those who have been fanning the flames…..THE LEFT.
ADDICTED TO TRUTH
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:57pmAmen x 10000 times.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:13pmI’m not excusing the threatening, that’ll be handled in court. I’d be interested to know what they had said.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:25pm@AT DOCTORS RIGHT
I have appreciated much of what you have said in the past. Are you an attorney and not a doctor? Sorry, but I have to disagree with you on this person’s rights. He has made a bald faced threat, in the open, and was immediately arrested for that threat. It doesn’t matter what he thinks is a threat at this point, he should have known better! In my state, this type of threat is a third degree felony. This man’s rights are now suspended by law. This man would have been better served by friends who knew the story of the alledged shooter and filled him in on the media dis-information machine and the crap it was cranking out! But that didn’t happen, unfortunately. No DOCTOR, when you threaten someone with DEATH, you will be arrested, your rights suspended, your trial impending, and your sentence eventually metted out. No one is to blame except the alleged shooter. That has been obvious for some time now, but did this idiot bother to do his homework? No, he did not. Did this idiot bother to do his homework concerning the Tea Party movement? No, he did not. His rights are hearby suspended … next case!
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:50pmchazman, next case would be you and your name-calling. This man made a mistake for which he should and will be held accountable. But, he is not who you say he is. Those types of insults are too schoolyard and childish for your character.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:12pmModerator, you have allowed someone to use my name and comment as though they were me. This troll uses all lower case letters (which show up all caps on screen). It would be my desire that you not allow identity theft to be such a slam dunk. I’m expecting that this troll is Beckisnuts, WTP, JZS, ABC or pubicPencil. You could probably figure out who this is by their ISP, e-mail address, along with their computer’s IP address. At anyrate, it would be good idea not to allow dishonest people to come on with exactly the same login name showing. Can you please take care of this? Thanks.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:26pmLucy, I’m so sorry that someone has stolen my logon and attempts to appear as me. I’m sorry for the insults he has sent your way. That he is using insults should prove that he is not me. Until the moderators shut him down, please use discernment and don’t take his vomit to heart.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:56pmwow, to the real SPARKY101, thanks for clearing that up! Thought you’d found sanity or something…
Report Post »LadybugsTX
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 1:39amHold the phone Lucy… You have to remember that the left believe that any truth that goes against their political agenda is hate. Therefore, to them the right is guilty of “vitriolic rhetoric.” Really, somebody needs to start a new website with Liberal/Progressive “redefinitions” of words.
Racist – Anybody who is against our political agenda now that we have a black President. This can include the words socialist, marxist, or pretty much anything that can be found on Tea Party sign.
Hate Speech – Anything that is said that is not in agreement with our political agenda.
Hatemongers – Anyone who speaks publicly about not agreeing with our political agenda.
Social Justice – Also know as Socialism or Marxism. The theory that people deserve money and material goods simply because they breath and even though they do nothing to work for it; therefore it must be taken from those who do earn it.
Lie – Anything said Hatemongers say. Note: Please do not research anything the Hatemongers say. If someone presents a fact that does not agree with The Agenda, ignore it at all costs, label it as a lie and deny it at all costs.
Fact – Cherry picked information taken out of contest and then molested, spun and abused until it fits The Agenda. (See distorted statistics reported by the New York Times in 1992 that eventually led to the Community Reinvestment Act of 1999 which led to the collapse of the US economy in 2008)
Report Post »Feel free to add…
OpenCarry
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:47pmProbably will not get reported in MSM that this nutcase was a LIBERAL…
Report Post »Big Bob
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:57pmthe thing that kills me (oh can I say that or is that a threat against my life) is that the left doesn’t seem to understand that the TEA party is not all on the “right”. Many of the Tea partiers don’t even consider the left right para-dine for their ideals. Many of the the TEA partiers are trashed as leftists by far right. Yes it is true that we have more in common with those claiming the right but many on the left have joined our ranks.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:58pmDidn‘t he get his dear leader’s message of peace, love, civility and tolerance ?
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:01pmIt could be reported that ABC caused arrest of victim of Tucson shooting. That’s how messed up lame stream media is.
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:04pmAll liberals are nut cases.
Laus Deo
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:08pmOh cool, another liberal tough guy… Can‘t win a debate and sure as Hell can’t win a fist fight, but SO tough nonetheless. Douche bag, personified.
Report Post »UlyssesP
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:14pmLet the guillotine claim her bloody prize!
Report Post »EgoBrain
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:14pmWill this never end.
Report Post »hot22dog
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:15pmyea Ralph Machio, I mean rachel maddow won’t report it.
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:15pmI can hardly wait until the whacko Olberman, Schultz, and the tame Matthews get a chance to play their perverse games with this guy. He will be the new hero of the left.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:16pmMore violence and threats from the left .. .when is the MSM and President going to speak out against THIS! I know h e l l hasn’t frozen over completely yet.
Report Post »ChangeChomp
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:16pmAnother Lefty shooting his mouth off. He‘d fit right in with Rick Sanchez and Helen Thomas wouldn’t he?
Report Post »gramma b
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:16pmTypical Democrat.
Report Post »DashRipRock
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Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:21pmI will be watching the SUNDAY shows tomorrow morning …. let’s see who carries this story … any bets? Anyone besides FOX?
Report Post »SHOESHINEBOY
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:27pmWhy is this news..he did nothing wrong…remember BOW DOWN TO THE DEMOCRATS..THE ONLY RULING CLASS IN DEMOCRATICA THAT MATTERS
Report Post »Cemoto78
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:29pmI can hear it now on MSLSD, Tea Party has traumatized victim of Palin’s massacre arrested and jailed with Lougner.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:29pmWhat a fool. He criticizes the conservatives for the shooting and it was caused by a sicko liberal, now he threats the T-party. Glad they decided to arrest him for a direct threat. Where do these fools come from?
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {cat folk art}
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:37pmAnd now the Progressives and extremists of the left will have once again another ‘victim of the tea party and right wing nutjobs” to glorify.
Report Post »RCScrolls
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:42pmThe TEAPARTY that most belong to isnt anti Gov, or rightist in their mantallity.
Report Post »Mostly it is a conservative Base with mostle Repubs, Dems, and independants.
Its about being responcible keeping a budget reducing Governmant policy and regulation as well as paying off our National Debt and Deficit. We need to run this country on less money than it takes in,
stop spending on earmarks, special interests and liberal agendas.
If we do that we can overcome the dangerous politcal balance that they all have us in Dems as well as Repubs. We will probably see the Government shut down again which wouldnt be a bad thing.
We can raise the debt ceiling every year so why raise it this year.
Diana
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:42pmOMG I’m shocked, shocked that BECKISNUTS, WHITETEAPARTY, BROKER101 and a handful of others have yet to comment on this story!
Suckers!
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:44pmI think the thing that is the saddest part of all of this is that this is not what Gabrielle Giffords would want to happen. I don’t know her at all, but from everything being reported about her, she is a caring woman without a mean bone in her body. I hoped her husband might come forth and ask that the “blame game” cease and desist for the sake of his wife’s recovery but, to my knowledge that hasn’t happened. At some point, when she has recovered more, she will get wind of the vicious accusations being made towards people who don’t deserve them and she will be extremely disappointed in the media, the sheriff and at least one of her supporters. I will continue to pray for her full recovery and her return to Congress.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:47pmCatB
I will be watching the SUNDAY shows tomorrow morning …. let’s see who carries this story … any bets? Anyone besides FOX?
Report Post »——–
After watching FOX in the last week,
I don’t think FOX will cover it either.
They might “ report ” it like a “ news”
but they won’t have the guts to “ discuss” or “ analyse” it
in the middle
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:54pmIf this hadn’t had happened in a public forum i doubt the guy would have been arrested, it makes me sick!
Report Post »chazman
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:55pmThe worst kind of loser, America! We‘re lookin’ at ‘em!! What a pack of cowards. Cowards who attack with no proof of what they say! Cowards are the most dangerous animals! Watch yer back, Blazers, and prepare! These assho*es want blood to flow in the streets!
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:59pm@grandmaof5
Report Post »Very well said, and something we should ALL consider. Thanks for your thoughtful post.
SlippedThroughAWormHole
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:59pmShall we use the logic of the the Arizona sheriff? It‘s the sheriff’s fault this guy did what he did. Afterall, he’s the one who made this a political issue. How about it sheriff – gonna own up to causing this nut to do what he did? Or, still putting the blame on Palin
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:00pmOh that Loughner had only shot “his mouth off.” PEOPLE WITH GUNS kill people.
Report Post »Jsh1284
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:03pmI’m a Tea Partier, and I live near Bessemer Alabama. Any peace loving liberals wanna come take a shot at me? You can have the first. I’ll take the last!
broker0101
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:03pmHi DIANA, it doesn‘t surprise me at all that you can’t stop thinking about me even when I’m not around.
byehlik
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:05pmMore wishes of peace from the left. Excuse me who has is making the vitriolic comments? Peachy, just peachy. Another lefty loon has went over the edge. Wow, that was fast. They will not show him on TV, does not fit the narrative.
Report Post »Leftie Losers!
Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:07pmWell, Liberalism is a mental disorder, as proved by Loughner.
Report Post »Maybe they will share ideas/underwear in the same cell?
Sparky101
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:08pmThis man has made a terrible mistake (haven’t we all?). I’ve never been shot, but I’ve had a gun put in my face during a robbery and was threatened with death multiple times. The next morning, I went driving around looking for the man who did this to me. I would have beat him to death if I’d found him, because without his gun he was nothing. Fortunately for me, I did not find him. Today, many years later, I am surprised at my extreme anger. So, give this man a break. He’s been under a terrible pressure and perhaps is not yet prepared to meet his maker (back when I was held up, I was not even familiar with my maker). Bottom line, he’s acted badly, but is dealing with an awful lot that he does not understand and has not had time to process. And he probably is a democrat.
avenger
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:09pmwhatever…
Report Post »Jsh1284
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:10pmTIOFSA, people with baseball bats sometimes kill people, too. People with knives sometimes kill people. Take every GD thing off the face of the earth but DIRT and PEOPLE and you could STILL murder someone by suffocating them with DIRT! THEN you’ve STILL got your hands! Guns are only a tool, you genius.
Take this gun off my hip right now. Let me put it on the table. The only way it will fire until the end of time is if some moron like you pulls the trigger. That’s it. Bottom line. It takes a psycho to kill someone and they don’t only do it with guns. Firearms are simply a tool for protection which can be used for evil. Just like a baseball bat. Just like a WRITING PEN! Just like a CAMERA *takes noodie picture* .. see where I’m going?
what4
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:15pmNothing showing up yet…..suprise!!
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:21pmTsk, tsk JSH. I bet Loughner would have injured/killed ALOT less people if he’d had a baseball bat instead of a Glock with a 30-round clip. just sayin…
Report Post »exdem
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:29pmI wonder if the main stream media will play the clip of Bill Maher spewing hateful rhetoric against the Tea Party and blame him for this man’s arrest.
Report Post »Aither
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:31pmDoesn’t surprise me that ANOTHER survivor in this crowed was on the Left. It was a freaking nut job that shot at innocent people, now those people who are Progressives are using that anger to make their true colors justifiable.
Yes I said “True colors” in which this is how they really are. Violent people who are following the rules of the riots across the world as well as those back in the 60′s. The violence that Piven and Soros need to bring down the Republic. The violence just like the what that nut case in Tuscon did who was more left than anything else.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:33pmOpencarry and all Patriots,
Report Post »Remember, 2012 is around the corner. STAY FOCUSED! All sensible people know full well that Sarah Palin and G Beck had nothing to do with the Az shooting.
This is your classic Sal Alinsky tactic.
Deamonize and Marginalize your opponet. That’s what the left does, and they’re doing it again.
This only once again verifies that the left will sink to any level.
Let them increase our resolve to defeat OB in 2012, and run the Dem-Progressive Party out of Wash.
Mikee T
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:38pmWhat are you talking about Bob ? Tea Party members are constitutionalists….through and through….therefore….conservative right…….period……
Report Post »sparks101
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:46pmGlenn has been going over the top on a lot of trivial stuff. He yells at us every day about what we MUST DO too. It gets old.
godlovinmom
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:50pmNice….
Report Post »WhiteTeaParty
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:51pmThe Congresswoman was getting threats all the time ever since the health care issue became front page news and I didn’t here the Tea Partiers, Republicans, Sarah Palin, or Glenn Beck make an issue of this.
The mainstream media reported the threats against Democrat congressmen and women but it was was Fox News that stated that the threats had no merit.
Could it be that the Tea Partiers, Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck are running scared now?
Cemoto78
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:55pmI wonder how much the media had to do with this guy going over the edge. If anyone has some of the blame on this one, it has got to be the media for driving this story with all the wrong facts.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:59pmStudy what the Progressives do, what they say. They have been a divisive force for 50 years, but only since they have had a true socialist in the WH to go along with the radicals in Congress has the chasm been blown wide open.
Report Post »There is now no attempt to hide their intent to bring ‘fundamental change’ to America. No one should doubt that.
We will be in real trouble if we do not stay focused on the 2012 elections.
Join a local Tea Party and get involved.
Sparky101
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:01pmOpencarry, this is what CNN reports:
Report Post »A man who was wounded in last Saturday’s massacre in Tucson, Arizona, was taken to a county mental services unit Saturday after making a threatening comment at a town hall event in Tucson, Pima County Sheriff’s Department spokesman Jason Ogan said. – From CNN’s Chuck Johnston
Jsh1284
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:01pmTSK TSK TIOFSA – I bet he wouldn’t have shot more than three if I would have been in that parking lot with my Glock 30.
Sparky101
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:05pmWTP, you say “The mainstream media reported the threats against Democrat congressmen and women but it was was Fox News that stated that the threats had no merit.”
I say Bull until you prove your allegation. To your question, I say “No.”
Report Post »NutterButter79
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:08pm“Will this never end?”
Highly unlikely. Both sides are now getting all riled up over everything. Watch the nutjobs from the LEFT AND the RIGHT start coming out of the woodwork. It‘s gettin’ ugly out there.
Report Post »ottodiedacktick
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:11pm@WHITETEA
I think that what the tea party is doing right now is sitting on the sidelines in amazement as the globalist power elite and their minions are unraveling. I have a question for you: do you think ‘bama could hunt a carribou and eat it without having to go through 20 years of therapy? Why would you think that tea party people are scared?
Report Post »Jsh1284
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:13pmWTP – WTF? Almost all congressmen/women recieve threats over the course of the year as legislation passes/does not pass that certain crazies want passed/rejected. Gabby Giffords is not an oddity. I’m sure some of her threats were from conservatives and SOME were from anti-gun liberals, as well. Most death threats ARE NOT credible, though.
The funny thing is you geniuses have a PROBLEM with death threats against dems, but not one problem with the fact that people are probably ACTIVELY trying to hunt down Palin and Beck right now! I guarantee someone out there WOULD kill them if they got the chance right this second .. due to media fear mongering and misrepresentation. Oh, and lies. Can‘t forget about the mainstream media’s lies.
WTP, you are a double-standard supporting hypocrite just like the rest of your left wing buddies. The lot of you really needs to re-think your life priorities.
Report Post »rhulburd
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:23pmThis is how AP’s reporting it…
By BOB CHRISTIE, Associated Press – 2 mins ago
Report Post »PHOENIX – One of the Arizona shooting victims was arrested Saturday and then taken for a psychiatric evaluation after authorities said he took a picture of a tea party leader at televised town hall meeting and yelled: “you’re dead.”
James Eric Fuller, 63, objected to something Trent Humphries said during the forum taped for a special edition of ABC’s “This Week” with Christiane Amanpour, Pima County sheriff’s spokesman Jason Ogan said. Fuller was in the front row and apparently became upset when Humphries suggested that any conversations about gun control should be delayed until all the dead were buried, KGUN-TV in Tucson reported.
Fuller was arrested on misdemeanor disorderly conduct and threat charges, Ogan said. While Fuller was being escorted out, deputies decided he needed a mental health evaluation and he was taken to a hospital, where he remained Saturday evening.
The hospital will determine when he will be released, Ogan said.
Fuller was one of 19 people shot at a Safeway store Jan. 8. Six people died and Rep. Gabrielle Giffords remains in critical condition with a bullet wound to the head.
Fuller described the shootings as “a bad crime drama” in an interview on CBS’ “The Early Show.” He said he felt a bullet that hit his knee but didn’t know he had also been struck in the back. Fuller, a naval air veteran, drove himself to Northwest Hospital after being shot, according to the Arizona Daily Star. He was later taken to University Medical Center where he was released two days later.
The show was videotaped at St. Odilia’s Catholic Church in Tucson. Victims, witnesses, emergency responders and some of those hailed as heroes after the shooting discussed the tragedy.
The special will air Sunday on “This Week” with Christiane Amanpour.
lillymckim
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:35pmLets hear Paul Krugman, NBC’s Chris Matthews, MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow, Olbermann,
Report Post »ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, NBC’s Meredith Vieira, Matt Lauer and OF COURSE mediamatters …spin their way out of this!
Can’t wait to hear this on the Sunday Morning round table of FOOLS who have incited this by their laying the blame on prominent conservatives and Tea Party members…
oldguy48
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:35pmOutside of the fact that this liberal idiot hasn’t actually shot someone yet, what is the difference between him and the guy that did shoot.
Report Post »If he had actually had to shoot someone for whatever reason, the fool would not be so willing to do it again. If he is, he needs serious help.
This is why Stalin called the true beleivers in Marxism idiots. Their religion is marxism, and they checked their brain at the front door with their coat.
broker0101
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:51pm@Diana
Actually I was too embarrassed to make a comment. I hate it when The Blazer fans are right. Seems to be happening more and more often. I may become a Beck believer yet.
Report Post »Jsh1284
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:56pmBroker, did you finally go to the psychiatrist? Don’t listen to those Scientology guys! I‘ve seen those meds straighten out peoples’ minds for years!
Report Post »kindling
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:59pmIf you really watch carefully you will see the only ones that get emotional and talk hatefully is the narcissistic left. They accuse us of what they are guilty of and get even more upset when we expost their lies. There is really no point trying to teach them the truth, they live in a totally different world than the rest of us.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:02pm@tifosa,
“I bet Loughner would have injured/killed ALOT less people if he’d had a baseball bat instead of a Glock with a 30-round clip. just sayin…”
He would have injured/killed a lot less people of everybody else had guns.
The benefit of everybody bearing firearms, rather than bats, is that it’s more difficult to be one-upped by more lethal weapons.
Also, the Second Amendment was written so the the people would be able to defend themselves against government abuse of power. In fact, that is the primary reason for the Second Amendment, rather than self-defens; And we know that because the restriction is placed on government to restrain them from taking away the arms of the people.
Report Post »FIREDUDE
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:10pmWhiteteaparty—— Should be blackliberal
You are the true meaning of MORON!!!!!!!!!!
Beckisnuts?????????? Now who is the one spewing hate?????
Report Post »Maybe you should put out your email some more so you can send viruses to everyones computer that emails you
Sparky101
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:14pmAs I fully expected from the troll Whiteteaparty, CRICKETS. All he’s done is reguritate his allegations over and over. When pressed for proof, he simply reposts his vomit. He does this on purpose. He is not equipped to prove anything he charges. It’s not his intent. HIs intent is to anger those he hates and those he considers his lessors. If you try to engage him in honest debate, you will be frustrated because he will not be honest. Try to engage him at your own waste of time. I’m simply showing you what he does – every single time.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:16pmThanks for bringing it back to what this is about RHULBURD. JSH, you set up a false dichotomy and expect a response?
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:26pmrhulburd…thanks for that…everytime I try to get cnn, msnbc, etc…. views on issues…. they just end up making me mad…too much gray for me…and broker…I’m praying for you man!
Report Post »Jsh1284
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:35pmTIOFSA – What? Listen, I was making a point. If a licensed concealed carrier was there in that crowd, this would not have been as bad. FACT! That’s why guns ARE NOT bad! You get a few lone wolves with guns and bad things happen. The problem is there are MILLIONS of gun owners in America .. most of which never commit a crime with their firearms.
If I hear gunshots at the mall or at the store, I’m going to take out the shooter or die trying. That’s why it would be a BAD idea to disarm the people! We need MORE responsible carriers in America. If we had that, and didn’t have gun free zones, this nation would be a safer place.
Gun free zones accomplish nothing. If I’m a criminal, do you think I care what a little plastic sign says? Especially if I am fixing to shoot the place up? ALL that does is set up a situation where NOBODY who has GOOD intentions can carry there – which ends up getting people killed. That’s why nobody tries to go to GUN SHOWS or BIG GUN STORES and ROB the places! Criminals KNOW there are bad ass conservative patriots there who ARE armed and who WILL kill them if they try to rob, kill, steal, or destroy. FACT.
Report Post »Jsh1284
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 10:18pmTo anyone saying we need to ban hi-cap magazines .. don’t you realize you can still kill TEN people with a TEN round magazine? What’s the point of banning 33 rounders, 17 rounders, 15 rounders, 13 rounders etc? It really won’t make much of a difference. A skilled shooter can do a tactical reload in less than a second. Banning hi-cap magazines might slow down a mass shooter but it surely won’t stop them.
Betides, do you think banning guns here will stop gun violence? Our porous Mexican border will allow the gun trade to explode in such an extreme case of ignorance by our govt. They’ll come in with the drugs. The bad guys will still have guns, and the good guys will be like sheep waiting to be slaughtered by packs of wolves. A mass shooter might have to pay $500 to get a pistol, but that’s not too much when someone has $500 bucks and knows they probably won’t be alive or free the next day.
Gun control simply won’t work. Bottom line. It will cause more violence, more crime, and generally get more people killed. Your average corner drug dealer might not have guns but the big boys will .. and they’ll be more likely to use them, too.
Now, back to your regular mindless drivel .. err programming!
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 10:25pmAnyone else notice this….
“Pima County police deputies immediately escorted Fuller from the room. The Sheriff’s spokesman, Jason Ogan, confirmed Saturday afternoon that Fuller has been charged…”
What? The Pima Counyt Sheriff actually has a spokesman?? Could have fooled me!!! I thought it was Sheriff Dupnik.
Second comment – in the words of the late, great Jimmy Durante, “Everybody’s trying to get into the act!”
Third comment – One would think that this guy would have known that the police aren’t fooling around with those who make threats against politicians. However, stupid is as stupid does.
Report Post »VerySeniorCitizen
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 10:43pmI’m NOT taking Mr. Fuller’s side here, but ————–
Most of us understand that when a soldier comes home from war after seeing horrific things and experiencing violence first hand, we recognize that he might be angry and has trouble re-entering civilian life – even after he has been trained for that kind of life.
So, can we assume that Mr. Fuller, having seen horrific acts and himself and having been wounded, not only feels lucky to be alive, but is also feeling guilt for having survived while others didn’t – and he is angry.
The mere fact that Mr. Fuller remembers incidents that happened when the Tea-Party backed Republican (who opposed Ms. Giffords in the last election) inviting his supporters to play with his assault weapons at his rallies.
Something that hasn’t appeared on this site is the video of Ms. Giffords verbalizing her concerns about Ms. Palin’s map – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7046bo92a4 – saying actions have consequences.
If you or I were traumatized after seeing friends wounded and/or killed I’m sure we would expect others to understand our anger. So can we cut Mr. Fuller some slack and allow the legal system to work??
Report Post »USAMama
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 10:59pmThis is because of the Sheriff Dupnik, he needs to resign. This shooting had NOTHING to do with the Tea Party, Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck. Where did this guy get the idea it had? From the Sheriff who couldn’t keep his unjustified “opinions” to himself. If there is violent fall out from this smear against Americans, its on him!! He and only he is inciting violence by his accusations!
Report Post »Jsh1284
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 11:10pmSenior – I don‘t think that’s the case. This guy is trying to get in the spotlight. He is a passionate liberal who wants gun control legislation rushed through congress. Obviously, he is ticked off that it’s not happening .. so he lashed out. Most likely, he IS traumatized. He’s now even more of a naive anti-gun nutjob who thinks because he’s been personally affected by .1% of the gun community that he now is even more passionate about getting rid of a constitutional amendment which was created to protect the people. I think he is so traumatized, he now thinks because it happened to HIM the issue MUST now be taken up, legislation MUST be passed, and they should name the new constitutional amendment banning guns the “Eric Fuller” amendment.”
I guess this guy does not realize had there been a civilian sheep dog who was armed in that crowd, he might not have been shot at all. Oh, and that little girl would be alive most likely.
Finally, about playing with assault weapons .. do you know what an assault weapon is? An assault weapon is a fully automatic military or police rifle. Some assault rifles are BURST FIRE! The problem with using the term ASSAULT RIFLE for say .. describing a civilian AR-15 is .. they ARE NOT ASSAULT WEAPONS! These are semi-automatic rifles which (mostly) are legal for hunting and target practice use. These rifles that the victim here was showing off were NOT tactical military assault weapons .. rather CIVILIAN authorized Class I firearms. They are no more deadly than a hunting rifle. Actually, they are LESS deadly than most hunting rifles. An AR-15 shoots a .223 caliber bullet. It was designed for killing varmints. Eventually, the military adopted a higher pressure version (5.56) because it is still effective. However .. a .308 hunting rifle is surely more deadly than a pesky AR-15 or a Mini-14.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 11:11pmWell said Ellie, but I still reserve the right to protect my life, liberty, and property against an out of control government
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 11:16pmI’m with JSH1284
You take my knife, gun, bat, stick, fork, or any other objective(s) from me and I will find another and will create a weapon from it if needed to.
If you look at statistics, people are more afraid of knives over guns. If banning guns is the safe way how do people get murdered in prison?
I do not think everyone should be carrying a gun but I do believe we all should have the opportunity to. I have a concealed weapons permit. Had I been at the shooting, yes I do believe I would have had a 100% better chance at stopping the loss of innocent life over someone who had no gun. Mathematics proves it. Probability.
If having someone else with a gun isn’t a good idea then why the questioning on relax/zero security? In calling for more security, would that be a call for trained guns? This horrible shooting goes to show you what happens when civilians don’t have arms and exactly why we should have permitted concealed weapon carriers among us.
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 11:47pmHere’s an idea, let this guy Fuller be Jared Lee Loughners Attorney. This will at least guarantee a guilty verdict! Two peas in a pod.
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 11:48pmbikerr, that would only happen if the story had been broken by Fox.
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 11:54pmsparks101, ok genius, why do you think Glenn does this?
Report Post »Jsh1284
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 11:58pmI just want to say one more thing – if you blame guns for this, it’s ridiculous. When guns are left alone, they are inanimate objects. It’s like blaming your ball point pen for mis-spelling a word or your refrigerator for getting fat. Or maybe .. a better example is blaming McDonalds! IT’S THEIR FAULT I WENT THERE, SPENT MY MONEY, AND ATE THEIR FOOD! That’s why I had a heart attack!
I love the liberal mindset. So backwards!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 12:01am@JSH1284
People show their ignorance without even knowing it. I’ll help you prove your point on hi cap mags..Keep up the good fight..
A person with a single shot break over 12 gauge could potentially kill more then a 30 round tapco clip or any hi cap pistol mag.
For those reading who do not know a shot gun shell holds many many little bullets and when shot it spreads into a pattern potentially wide enough to hit a five ft diameter, maybe bigger. Banning hi cap mag is a non sense solution.
Violence is what needs to be stopped, not guns, knives, single shot or high cap mags. Violence comes from a thought or feeling inside of you not from inside a barrel.
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 12:06amchuck, thanks for the video link. Very good back and forth reasoning showing how our own government is on the wrong economic track. It would have had more impact if it were done using more serious type of characters. You know, something like Luke Sywalker on one side and Darth Obama on the other.
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 12:09amOkie from Muskogee, I have been convinced for many years that liberal ideology makes people turn to violence. Therefore it makes sense that we rid this country of liberal/progressive ideology and immediately watch crime rates drop like a rock.
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 12:16amVerySeniorCitizen, everyone is more than aware of Gabbys video against Sarah. That was POLITICS for both Sarah and Gabby and both woman know it. Nothing more, nothing less. Stop trying to make this something it isn’t. The Dems and even the Daily Kos are way ahead of the curve on this one, their graphics targeting GOP candidates with Bulls-Eyes came first.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 12:42am@click
Partially agree with you. If liberal you mean Progressive Francis Pivens as liberal then yes and instead of creating a law to ship our political enemy out which could in turn be used against us lets stand together with truth and convince more to our side. That’s how you kill evil with kindness, not violence like them. Violence is just a tool and used by many and a lot.
Unfortunately all facets of politics contain nuts, not just liberalism in your term. Liberal to me is more a libertarian, liberal to conservatives as they wanted even less government. Progressives want to move past conservatives and control everything. I believe 100% in the individual.
Report Post »LadybugsTX
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 12:54amYeah, we should cut this idiot some slack. Please… Isn’t that why there was a shooting in the first place? Because a few people along the line gave the shooter some slack? Had Dupenik done his job, or his parents had done their job or the College had done their job instead of “giving him some slack” or just simply making him go away like the College did we wouldn’t be on this post talking about this right now. So, suppose we give this guy some slack, what’s to stop him from making good on his threat? That’s one problem with the liberal mentalilty, nobody’s ever has to face consequences for their actions (except those who don’t agree with them politically, for them they want public hangings).
So a Youtube video was released today of the shooter taping himself skulking around the campus at night. There were some key terms and phrases that alerted me as to this kid’s journey of madness. Does anybody remember the mantra of the left just 5 short years ago? “Illegal Wars” And then of course there’s the constant mantra of the green left about “genocide” And let’s not forget how they love to throw around the word “torture” In fact, haven’t they been screaming about the Private who stole documents to give to Wikileaks as being “tortured” for being in solitary confinement? So let’s follow the crazy train of the left (don’t stress if your selective amnesia makes it hard to keep up libbies), powered by hate. ALL of them board the train at “Bush and his illegal wars” and think he should be tried for war crimes. Now a lot of them get off the crazy train here, but some move on to the “Bush secretly blew up Twin Towers on 09/11/01 (building 7, building 7, building 7). Notable people who believe this: Van Jones (also a big proponent of the Government performing “genocide” against black people in urban poverty communities), Janeane Garafalo and Oliver Stone. Not many get off the Crazy Train at this point, exept those who tow the line and support Democrats no matter what. Next station on the route, the Bilderburg’s and their quest to dominate the world through Global government and one monitary system (see infowars.com). Now we are in full blown nut house territory. These guys are suspicious of ALL government and worry about mind control, etc. A notable member of this crowd? Willie Nelson. So if you take someone from the Crazy Train at this point, who’s been “given slack” by his parents and the law and not been made to answer for his actions, how far a jump is it to find him with a gun on a Saturday morning at a political event, ready to shoot to kill? Has anyone considered that if he had been made to take a psych evaluation he would have never been able to legally buy a gun?
And Tinkerbell, before you remove the blame from those it belongs to and place it on gun control, consider this. When Chicago banned guns in 1982, gun violence went up 50%. When they were banned in the UK, gun violence went up 300%. Criminals who use guns generally don‘t give one rat’s ass about gun laws. The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with one.
The liberals answer for everything. A mad shooter kills a bunch of people? Ban guns from law abiding citizens. A radical Islamist carries a bomb onto an airplane? Make it where law abiding citizens can’t get on a plane without choosing to be pornographically photographed or being sexually assaulted. Poor people won‘t get a job or won’t get one because smoking blunts and watching MTV Cribs on their big screen TVs with cable is sooo much easier? Take money from those that work and give it to them.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 1:04am@Jsh1284: You are right…The other day Glenn said on the air that he and Sarah actively have 15 serious death threats going on any given day…that”s pretty scary…but he also said that he spoke with Sarah after Saturday’s shooting and told her that she seriously needed to contact the people (I believe it was a company out of California) that provide his security…he said they were the best in the country and that she needed them as well!
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 1:10am@A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right: You are absolutely right…Because I live here in Arizona I am surrounded by friends who actively carry…what I find interesting, and maybe quite remarkable, is that there probably WERE several people in that Safeway parking lot who WERE carrying at the time of the shooting…I’d like to believe that THEY EXERCISED RESTRAINT to a degree because of the crowd of people all gathered together in such a small area…if anyone (besides the shooter) had opened up firing, more people could have been killed or injured accidently…just sayin’…
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 1:52amI too think the sheriff started all the nonsense about conservatives, sarah, glen the tea party… and just got everybody started…this guy included…what I find hard to believe really…… is how many of them think this way…
Report Post »spikebu
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 2:11amStill stuck on the first video. Was it CTV saying this man disrupted a Tea Party Rally? I thought it was an ABC event. Completely unaware they are now sponsoring Tea Party rallies. WooHoo ABC! Welcome to the fold. Wouldn’t that be nice?
Report Post »Timekeeper
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 2:30amLiberalism is a flawed ideology, a mental disease and cannot advance on it’s merits. They have to lie and hide the intentions and agenda. It is about taking from one group and giving to another. It is about large government control – statism. The leftist liberals amount to maybe 20% of the population, they just have big mouths and the so called mainstream media running interference for them. WE the People – need to continue to Stand-up, Speak-up and NOT be silenced by their name calling and race-baiting tactics. WE the People, should be as Courteous and as Civil as they are… or are not.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 3:31amAwaken ye faithful! Do your eyes not hear? Do your ears not see? Glenn foretold that blood would run in the streets, and his prophecy has become reality. He has spoken that Obama would issue in an era of conflict and revolution, as he, the so called “Chosen One” assumes dictatorial powers.
Do you not see what is happening to this country? Our freedoms, removed piecemeal over the last two years, are now gone. A good friend tweeted me that in Franklin Minnesota, households have been raided and all guns confiscated, although there is nothing (yet) on the news. The government claimed it was because Al Quada operatives were in the area and guns were now prohibited for “safety of the populace.” Sure, like I believe that.
The FBI is taking “hostiles” into custody for so called national security reasons. You may notice that your Internet service has slowed recently and wondered if you were sure about that. But incrementally the government has through the FDIC has seized control of ISPs and is just now limiting access to certain “unpatriotic” websites, perhaps including this one, until you pay a “patriot tax”, which is basically extortion.
As Glenn said, “The revolution is now.” He didn’t mean “the revolution is sometime later when you get the guts to do something.” It’s now and the blood has already begun to flow.
The Marxists are in charge of the government, your freedoms are gone as you see every day, the Constitution has been shredded and thrown in the trash can. The coup is complete.
We must rise now to defeat the evil that has overtaken America. If you have kids or don’t have the bravery to fight back, I hope at least you’ve stocked water and food and those seeds to grow wheat that Glenn advertised on his show (a show which the government will be shutting down soon). If you are brave, and are willing to lay down your life to save this country, then lock and load. Don’t retreat, reload. Let’s exercise the Second Amendment remedies the Forefathers so thoughtfully put into the Constitution, knowing that a tyrannical power, one able to overcome a filibuster, would rise up and destroy everything Americans have worked so hard to achieve.
Put your sights on the enemy and then let’s pull the trigger on the anti-revolution and take our country back from those who would destroy it!
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 4:03amWe don’t know that he was liberal, just because he hates a tea partier. Just as it is logical fallacy to assume that because Jared Loughner attacked a Democrat, he was necessarily a conservative by political ideology, it is equally fallacious to suppose that Fuller was necessarily motivated by political attacks. Even his comments accusing Palin and Beck might come form the same alternate causality; that we was angry and traumatized FROM A SHOOTING.
I don’t really care though–if he broke the law then the law will be applied. I hope that the punishment suits the severity of his actions (there‘s a lot of information we don’t know; the context of the remarks, whether or not they were metaphorical, and whether or not he seemed to be displaying violent intent or physical aggressiveness). Depending upon the severity of these factors, I feel that we should consider a simple fine (if it was a metaphor taken out of context (certainly poor choice of words)) all the way to imprisonment if he was aggressive and appears to be a potential threat).
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 4:50amI must agree with Archon on this one. While what the man said is inappropriate, I don’t know if there has been any proof of his affiliations besides the fact he was at the rally. Regardless, I hope that this is simply a case of PTSD, people do some crazy s*** after surviving a crisis. Since he was taken seriously, I hope he gets the help he needs and everything is squared away before he goes off. If it isn’t and he is just angry, I hope he learns the lesson that making threats at political targets after surviving an incident where a political figure was the target is a BAD IDEA.
Report Post »quiet little lamb
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 5:41amyour right it probably won’t be reported the way we want it to be on MSM, but the fact is WE KNOW! I for one am going to make sure that i mention that he WAS JUST A NUT anytime someone brings this topic up. I’ve heard so much coverage about what stance the shooter had that i do not remember the names of the other victims. That is wrong!
Report Post »troyvar
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 8:11amI see they covered the story fairly well in USA online, havn’t seen it anywhere else yet.
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 8:26amFuller and Loughner are just two mentally unstable people … One is a murderer and the other, is a murderer waiting to happen… I can’t see how he blames the Tea party.. Oh, I get it ,it’s all the ranting by the left wingnut media like , Ed Shultz, Olbermann, Maddow , Mike Malloy.. pundits like this, that have been blaming the Tea party for the Loughner murders day in and day out since it happened.. Hmmm.. Wonder how it feels to those pundits, now that everyone can blame them for THIS incident… I‘m sure they don’t see the irony, since they are also mentally challenged..
Report Post »GeauxAlready
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 8:40amLets get the fight started already…………………
Report Post »Sam I am
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 8:48amYou CAN’T rush to judgement on this case. Or Major Hassan’s either.
Report Post »As far a Sara Plain, yeah, go ahead, rush to judgement.
tifosa
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 11:39amCLICK4, benefit of the doubt and I‘ll just say that you’re “wrong” again (The first I saw was saying that you’d been to hufffpo and they were saying that Obama cured Giffords by miracle-uh…no just not true.) Now you compare the 2 maps. The dem map had a picture of a target on 13 states, underneath the description that those were the 13 states that Bush won by single digits. $arah’s map had (self-described in a self-congratulatory tweet just after the election) “bullseyes” with the candidates incl. Gabrielle Giffords) underneath. I’m not saying she was at fault. I will say that she sent a HUGE message when, BEFORE she came out with a statement, she scrubbed the map from SARAHPAC.
Report Post »NUTHRDUMBCONSERVATIVE
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 11:45amulyssesp, chazman and jsh1284: Your comments are what the gun control left are looking for as an excuse to take the first two amendments away from the rest of us.
Report Post »bikerr, okie: Thank you. When the extreme leftists get loud they expose their real agenda. Many who support the left can have their eyes opened to the hollow rhetoric if the rest of us present a sensible alternative. Not middle of the road: ideals don’t have a middle. It is the fear of the right that keeps many sensible people from opposing the illogic of the left. It is time to show that the ideals of the left can only lead to tyranny and that the fearful images associated with the right are actually best minimized by the ideals of the right.
A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 11:53amTheBlaze is one of the last places I expected to censor speech. I am very disappointed.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 11:54am(Repost)
I strongly support this man’s right to threaten the life of elected officials – Right or Left; Tea Party, or otherwise – if he honestly thinks an elected official is violating his oath to the Constitution – that’s what the Second Amendment is for.
I even support this man’s right to threaten the life of those who he believes are responsible for unjustly threatening the lives of others. Remember, Fuller survived an unstable man’s rampage, so inasmuch as he believes the Tea Party is responsible for that tragedy, he has a right to be outraged, and a right to seek to stop what he considers to be the source of murders.
I don‘t take issue with Fuller’s outrage or threats – that’s not the issue. The issue is whether or not Fuller can argue that the Right is, in actual fact, guilty of deliberately inciting murders, or, as the Right has argued, that government is overstepping its authority, infringing on the unalienable rights of individuals, which is tyrannical and has lead to hundreds of thousands of deaths time and again throughout history, and therefore (as some on the Right has argued) must be threatened according to the Second Amendment.
I did find it interesting that Fuller was willing to threaten the life of someone he thought was guilty of inciting murders, yet completely misses the fact that it’s basically that same reason that is offered by those on the Right in support of the warnings about government abuse and the threats against those elected officials who would violate their oath to the Constitution.
Report Post »Nathaniel Horn
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 12:32pmAs a Democrat and a Liberal (notice I said Liberal, not Progressive…) member of the tea party from day one, I have often wished for a new state where all of the sensible, empathetic, common sense loving, down to earth, collaborative, drama rejecting people could go to and watch as the other half consisting of brain fried ex-hippies, mentally challenged, over educated, ignorant, dumbed-down, blindly partisan, weak minded followers and just plain fools and sheep could go to and happily destroy themselves without bothering rest of us in the country who just want to fix this mess- hand in hand- together- through good will, creativity and hard work.
But now I know that what will actually happen is that the final bubble: the currency bubble is going to take care of all that for us. God, in his (or her, as you please:) terrible, relentless love is queuing up an event and answer to our prayers at this very moment. It is so poetic too that the destruction of the malicious, willfully stupid and their hapless followers will be brought about exactly and precisely by their own actions. God is great beyond words to express or mere minds to comprehend. The only ones left standing in the end will be those who have awoken and prepared. Who just coincidentally are the exact same ones who can innovate and re-birth this great and noble Country. Well, and Mormons too… he, he… LOL…
Think out of the box! Prepare!! Survive to fight another day and another world!!!
Report Post »MNproud
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 6:21pmDoes anyone wonder if this guy is as crazy as the shooter? Look at his eyes and how he acts? “Just thought I’d swing by and forgive the parents” yeah right! They should have searched him for a weapon!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on January 17, 2011 at 12:09am@DrLabor
We all have the right to say as we wish at least I believe that and hope to obtain that right. With that same right we have responsibility individually for those rights. If you come out and say I‘m going to kill you or you’re dead, yes you should have that freedom, in fact I’d prefer it so as to know the threat, but you should be responsible enough to know once you threaten the police will be questioning you and investigating you as it is a serious threat. Not haul you off and throw away the key. Say what you mean, mean what you say. I agree do not ban threats, it helps find the nuts threatening peoples lives.
Common sense will tell you if you are at a tv taping and you become angered and say you’re dead and then start acting unstable, police are going to have you evaluated especially when you’re the victim of a recent shooting. That is what we pay taxes for police to do, question and prevent serious threats.
A lot are worried over gun laws but banning guns will never happen. I see this more as an opportunity for those in power to “deem” those “unstable” at will and use it as a political silencer. That’s the deception threat I see potentially.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on January 17, 2011 at 2:36pm@Okie from Muskogee,
“We all have the right to say as we wish at least I believe that and hope to obtain that right. With that same right we have responsibility individually for those rights. If you come out and say I‘m going to kill you or you’re dead, yes you should have that freedom, in fact I’d prefer it so as to know the threat, but you should be responsible enough to know once you threaten the police will be questioning you and investigating you as it is a serious threat.”
The police don’t have a right to question free speech. We have a right to defend ourselves, since Fuller believed his life was in danger due to Humphries, the Tea Party leader, he had a right to make threats of self defense. If Humphries wants to press charges for intimidation, then he can do that – otherwise the police need to butt out.
“Not haul you off and throw away the key. Say what you mean, mean what you say. I agree do not ban threats, it helps find the nuts threatening peoples lives.”
It‘s not only nuts that threaten people’s lives. It’s defenders of life and property that do so, as well.
“Common sense will tell you if you are at a tv taping and you become angered and say you’re dead and then start acting unstable, police are going to have you evaluated especially when you’re the victim of a recent shooting.”
The man wasn’t acting unstable, he was acting angry – and at a reasonably proportionate level to the threat he felt.
“That is what we pay taxes for police to do, question and prevent serious threats.”
We pay taxes for police to protect our unalienable rights, not to quell free speech – Fuller didn’t do anything illegal (Constitutionally speaking). If Humphries wanted to press charges, THEN the police can get involved, but not until.
“A lot are worried over gun laws but banning guns will never happen. I see this more as an opportunity for those in power to “deem” those “unstable” at will and use it as a political silencer. That’s the deception threat I see potentially.”
The gun bans come a little at a time. First it’s registering firearms, then it’s a ban within 1,000 feet of elected officials. The Second Amendment was written to safeguard the People’s right to threaten government when it oversteps its authority, so both of these types of bans are unConstitutional.
Report Post »SavvyCowboy
Posted on January 18, 2011 at 12:18pmThis proves that shock therapy is a prerequisite to being a kuke-fringe far leftest like this sloth. I have never met a leftist who can have a civil conversation; they always turn to vitriolic hate speech when you show them their way of thinking is dead wrong. Maybe the best thing for fuller is to get a one way ticket to N. Korea or Iran. They love people who hate our country. He’ll get a nice bed in a gulag.
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