AZ State Rep. to Students Complaining About Tuition: ‘Welcome to Life’
- Posted on February 28, 2012 at 7:43am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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Michelle Ugenti has a message for Arizona college students complaining about a new proposed bill that would force them to pay for more of their college tuition: “Welcome to life.”
Ugenti is an Arizona state GOP Rep. During a recent hearing about HB 2675, which requires all students at three state universities to pay at least $2,000 per year for their education, she didn’t mince words when reacting to those who were complaining about the new measure. The Arizona Republic explains:
About 100 students signed in to oppose the bill, and a handful spoke out against it. James Allen, UA student-body president, told legislators that by passing the bill, legislators would make it harder to achieve a higher-education degree.
Rep. Michelle Ugenti, R-Scottsdale, replied, “Welcome to life.”
A few minutes later, Rep. Matt Heinz, D-Tucson, admonished his colleagues for their comments.
“I feel these students are being greeted with open hostility,” said Heinz, who later voted against the bill.
The bill is the work of state Rep. John Kavanagh. He believes that in such tough economic times, the state can’t afford to be giving out so many free educations (the number of free educations is in dispute, but ranges from 25-50 percent). He also believes students need to have a stake in their education.
“Not everyone, but some people take things they get for free less seriously,” he said, according to the Republic. Kvanagh, however, is open to exemptions to the law for some students such as military veterans.
The bill was approved by committee and now goes to the full House for a vote.
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1Haole_Boy
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:28amHey Occupy Crowd!! Gross Domestic Product Equals Gross Domestic Income.
Report Post »When you artificially inflate the amount of money, let’s say four fold, to purchase a static amount of education, the price of education quadruples. Little wonder why the government is responsible for the outrageously high and hyper inflating cost of education. Hey Occupy Crowd!! Go Occupy the Department of Education and demand for its demise!!
Locked
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:51am“Gross Domestic Product Equals Gross Domestic Income.”
In theory they do. In reality there are always differences because GDP is based on expenditures while GDI is based on income. Products and services can vary in value, and measurement values mean that expenditures will be different from the income.
Your point stands, but people will learn these key economic terms, theories, and their reality-based applications in higher education!
Report Post »VAHomeschooler
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:52am1) If you want higher education be willing to work for it. I bused tables in the faculty staff lounge and worked in the campus book store. With help from my parents I graduated DEBT FREE!
Report Post »2) If you HAVE to borrow some of the funds for you education, at least major in something that is marketable. Art History probably won’t pay back your student loans.
3) If you’re going to college on debt or grants and then spending money on parties, umlimited text and data plans and other stupid, then you are too STUPID to go to college.
EchoHawk
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:03pmVAHomeschooler, apparently you majored in home economics as opposed to English composition. Perhaps there’s still a chance you can apply for a refund.
Report Post »VAHomeschooler
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:09pm@Echohawk
Report Post »Really, I mis-typed “Your” as “You” and you post this crap. Get a life troll.
SONOFNANYE-HI
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:13pm@VAHOMESCHOOLER
Report Post »I‘ve noticed that when the Trolls don’t have an argument on points and facts, they normally revert to the Composition/Spelling Police roll in order to show us how smuckin fart they are.
Beckofile
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:42pmcan you say “Indoctrination Station”….Schools are being funded with the public money to funnel as many youthful Idiots through them and change the fabric of this once great country. Sending your kids to work in place of these schools may prove to be much more useful to them in the future.
Report Post »socialism.rocks
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 3:01pmsoon the government will be at war with revenue with the rich wait they already are-
Report Post »its just a matter of time before government puts its boot down
its the peoples resources = governments resources and is leased to the individuals
free enterprise is when a socialist group we the people decide that a product or service value-is too much or too little~
republicans dont understand the rule of law is socialism
government as a institution is socialism
the monetary system is socialism
its we the people not the few and elite ~
carbonyes
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 3:10pmECHOHAWK is an @ss. His posts are from the liberal left, and his comments are just as daft. He can exit blaze anytime he so chooses; he definitely will not be missed.
Grammer and syntax good enough for you ECHOHAWK? Content makes more sense than your drivel.
BTW, students who have an investment besides time in their college education, tend to do much better, and don’t have time to party hardy.
Report Post »FNTM
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 5:46pmActually a reply to EchoHawk. Quit acting like a progressive by slamming what people are typing. Argue the idea. Argue the thoughts. Your side of an argument loses all validity when you whine or pick nits.
Report Post »MadinIllinois
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:53amIt reminds me of the kids in Wisconsin last year with their teachers – chanting and demanding that the Gov. of Wisconsin not cut “collective bargaining” – which is the ability for all school instructors & labor unions to extract more money from the tax payers. Little did they realize, THEY were actually asking to pay HIGHER tuition fees!! For each salary increase/retirement pension given to these “professors of higher learning” means an INCREASE IN TUITION for them!! Can you say – STUPID!!
Report Post »JQCitizen
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:23amI paid that much for semester of college back in the 70′s, with NO student loans, or grants, only a work-study arrangement with the college.
Do these students understand HOW MUCH subsidization they are STILL RECEIVING if they pay only $2000.00 a year?
What a BUNCH OF BABIES!!!
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:59amMy Bachelor‘s and Master’s cost between $500 to $700 every 5 to 6 weeks. I went to University of Phoenix. I had to write 3 to 5 page papers and then write 10-12 pages as a group and read about 10 chapters a night. Cry me a river over $2000 a year. These whiners and criers need to grow up.
Report Post »saltwater
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:01pmThere should be no such thing as a ‘free’ college education. Too many of these ‘free’ educations are so useless as to be a complete waste of time and resources. Also, there is nothing that is ‘free’ in this world…taxpayers are footing the bill. Most of the students getting these useless degrees will be the ones most likely to be on the public dole for their entire lives because they will never be able to earn a decent living wage with the crap they learned. If they are so stupid that they can’t get some sort of scholarship, they should not be in college in the first place. Billions of dollara are never used because no one wants to apply for a scholarship. These students should have to do some work to get the degree they are persuing or they will never appreciate what it is to work for something. All subsidies should be abolished for a college education….then maybe the cost will go down and students will be able to afford that education.
Report Post »LukeAppling
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:22amJust wait until Obama gets done giving everyone “free college” they will be paying for many, many years and Obama will remind them endlessly of his goodness. The people in bankruptcy have seen the Obama/Frank/ Dodd “gifts” as they lose their homes because they never could afford them.
Report Post »College students should not start out in debt-go to a Community College, work every day to avoid debt, take correspondence courses, do not fall victim to Obama and the government run by professors in Obama’s administration. the entire plan from obama is to have everyone in debt to the government and under their thumb, Stalin and Mao did exactly the same until killing 100,000 of their citizens who woke up. I always ends the same way -”free stuff’-too much debt-struggle to pay the debt-bankruptcy-government enslavement.
1Haole_Boy
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:21amHey Occupy Crowd!! Gross Domestic Product equals Gross Domestic Income.
Report Post »When you quadruple the amount of money chasing the same amount of education, the price of that education quadruples. The reason why education costs so much is because the government is hyper-inflating the market for the purchase of Education.
Where is the Occupy Crowd in regards to the artificial high cost of education? When will these educationally challenged individuals finally get who is ballooning the cost of education? If we get the government out of the education business, we will see the education bubble burst and the costs dramatically deflate making education affordable again for all Americans.
Glock31
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:55amI had to work to put myself through college, these brats should too
Report Post »Conservative New Yorker
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:25amYep. Got academic scholarships and worked p/t during the semester and f/t in the summers. If you want a college education, work for it.
Report Post »Lotus503
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:52amMakes you work harder and select more realistic degrees if you have a vested financial interest in paying for your own tuition.
I’m sure that will cut down on the people working towards liberal arts and other non-productive degrees, won’t it?
Report Post »FNTM
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 5:48pmI worked full time while getting my undergarduate and my graduate degree. Went from a 1.12 grade point averge while living at home to 3.88 when I had to pay for it! What a difference.
Report Post »ADNIL
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:53amGotta grow up some time. Sooner, the better. Where ever do people get the idea that things are free? Somebody always has to pay.
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:24pmThey get them from years & years of being allowed to get away with the “I want it so therefore someone must give it to me” attitude. They get them from years & years of government “Awww..poor babies, it’s not your fault. Don‘t worry we’ll pay for it”. They get them from years & years of public schools who tell them “Don‘t worry that you flunked your spelling test because you didn’t bother to study. It‘s not your fault and we’ll let you take it again & again until you do pass it.” And in many cases they get them from years & years of parents who handed them what they wanted because it was easier than teaching them responsibility, work ethics, accountability and that you don’t deserve or get everything handed to you on a silver platter. Parents who chose to be more focused on getting expensive houses, cars, boats, trips etc instead of raising their children. And they get them from generations of people who would rather live on the government‘s dime because they don’t want to get a job and support themselves.
Report Post »willbedone
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:49amPerhaps she should print and distribute TS cards!
Report Post »Pacman116
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:48amThis student body president sounds like a real tough guy. LOL!! What a crybaby.
Report Post »dannyo
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:28amhut down these indoctrination stations for life…go back to the days we had on the job training and people like ford, wright bros, edison, franklin, whitney, newton et al figured things out on their own…s. jobs was a college dropout btw…
Report Post »slwrig2
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:19amThat right Rep. Ugenti it’s times these snot nose brats starting paying their own way and not relying on others to pay for them to sqaunder a oppurtunity, if they have no so called skin in the game they don’t care if they waste yours and my money. They’re getting there marching orders from the losers in the regime in the white house, just another reason to impeach and try for treason!!!!!!!!
Report Post »000degrees
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:35amI’m guessing the student body president probably got his feelings hurt. It’ll be alright after a couple of high fives from his favorite professors for speaking up against the rich republicans….. and a kegger….
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:19amGood for Ms. Ugenti. $2000 is a calkwalk for college tuition. No sympathy on the part on my part. I paid my own way in 1966.
Report Post »kegbuna
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:25amAnd how much was college then?
Report Post »Bobert
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:38amMore important KegBuna, WHAT was the minimum wage back then? If a semester of college only cost $1000 – that doesn’t seem too bad – until you realize that minimum wage was only $1.40 an hour. Twenty hours a week part-time at the local burger joint got you a whopping $28/week.
Report Post »vox_populi
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:51pmDo really none of you realize that college tuition has been increasing at 4X the rate of inflation for years? Just because you were able to pay your way in 1912 doesn’t mean that route is still conceivable for many students, especially when unemployment for youth is outrageously high.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:13amKids have always had issues, but now they’re complete and utter losers.
Check this out…a shrinking work force in the future, coupled with a pile of retirees and these are the kids that are going to be the supporting foundation???
Ugh…we’re toast.
Report Post »love the kids
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:08amShe should have told them that they wouldn’t have to raise tuition if the Feds did their job and secured the border. Then they wouldn’t have to spend so much on benefits to people who are here illegally. You can see why the students get a little affended though, the illegal students get FREE 100 % tuition because the Federal law mandates it.
Report Post »If they didn’t have to spend so much money defending their own laws from the Feds, they might also have the extra money.
Walkabout
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:07amBooks cost $1,000. I was shocked. Do state legislators have control those costs? Let’s tell all those college professors to less in royalties. That would be the Liberal/Obama way.
If the students are shocked they need to OCCUPY the School administration, the Department of Education & the Humanities department!
1. Everyone knows, but leftists do not admit, that the more the federal government gives or loans to college students the faster the colleges suck it up.
2. Get rid of mandatory courses that are not in your major. People should be able to graduate college in 3 years instead of 4. 25% cost saving off the top. Actually more because you can start paying off college debt sooner. Also people would find more part time jobs instead of borrowing as much. They can see the end of the tunnel midway thru their second year. Humanities are about 30+ semester hours. Most people go thru the motions so what are they learning. A better ideal is to not get people under a debt burden. then they will cast about for something to do. And part of that something could be humanities course that they want tot take not that they are forced to take. Get rid of the humanities Cartel.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:15amOr even better, maybe the notion that we need a college degree to even get a job as a secretary should be dispelled. Most college is wasted effort and wasted time, and many times applies to almost nothing in real life outside of saying “Hey, look, I have a degree”. The cult of “college” is rampant now, and it‘s easy to see that it’s a false idol simply by noting all of the college graduates who are then stuck flipping burgers because their magical degrees in Pan-Slavic Philosophy didn’t buy them automatic admission to employment.
College when necessary, yes (doctors, lawyers, high octane professionals, engineers, etc), but where it’s not necessary (secretaries, mechanics, middle management) stop making it a requirement. Not everybody needs to go to college, and not everybody should.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:26am“Get rid of mandatory courses that are not in your major. People should be able to graduate college in 3 years instead of 4. 25% cost saving off the top.”
AP or IB courses. Every young person I know who’s gone to college on their own academic merits (ie, not through affirmative action, sports scholarships, or the GI Bill) has gone in with some of their courses already completed; most of them already at sophomore status (or higher). Knocking out 20-30 credits before stepping foot on a college campus is pretty common for even a moderately driven individual.
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:59am@Ghost
Report Post »Excellent point. Doesn’t take a college degree to type letters, do basic accounting, schedule appointments, make sure others are doing their own jobs….the list can go on & on. And with computer programs most things are basically fill in the blanks and the program tells you if the information you put in those blanks is right or wrong. People who have had years of hands on experience are disqualified for jobs only because they don’t have a diploma. Doesn’t matter if they know more about the work and can do it better than some 22yo with a basic degree in “I went to college to get a degree in nothing special”.
Rickfromillinois
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:53amJust perhaps if students were told that some of the money for their education was coming out of their pockets they would take their education more seriously. If you were told that you were going to have to pay for a class then you would be more likely to be sure that they actually taught you something. Two thousand a year is not that much. If you can’t afford it, get a part time job. It wasn’t that long ago when a very large percentage of college students actually worked their way their through college instead of expecting someone else to foot the entire bill.
Report Post »kentuckypatriot
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:50am$2000 is a drop in the bucket for an education! What really tee’s me off is this Heinz guy catering to the gimme now or I will protest crowd. Sounds like he has no courage whatsoever and will run and hide when SHTF.
Report Post »THXll38
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:39amThese days, it seems that mommy and daddy “feel” obligated to put themselves in dept to put their kids through college. I would be embarrassed to ask my parents to help me through college. Paying your own way and going in dept as a young man or woman indeed welcomes you to life. I swear the damn baby boomers and gen X parents promoted this sense of entitlement. The bad news, I do not see it slowing down. People — it is not your responsibility to put your kids through college, nor should you feel bad if you cannot not. Your kids will thank you for it when they mature and become an adult.
Report Post »kentuckypatriot
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:51amHey, I’m a mom, my daughter knows full well that we will not pay for her education. Either get a job or go to school, her choice.
Report Post »Leslie Anne
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:56am$2,000 / 52 weeks in a year = a mere $38.46 a week.
Babysit, cut lawns, sell blood plasma, get a paper route, clean houses/basements/garages, pick up doggie-poo…the list of ways to earn money are endless. If a student can’t figure out how to earn $38.46 towards their college tuition, they’re too stupid and/or lazy to be in college.
Report Post »THXll38
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:01amGood to hear Kentucky and Leslie! I think it is great that parents are not willing to put themselves in dept to put their children threw college. A good honest day of work never hurt anyone.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:17am@Thxll38
I am a baby boomer. My parents didn’t have the opportunity to go to college. Their wish was that I became the first member of the extended family to get a college degree. My parents paid nothing for my college because they didn’t have it
I went to a private college from 1966-1970 on a partial scholarship. This meant higher tuition than a state school. I paid the rest of my tuition by working 3 jobs. Those were the days when the Selective Service was active. You could lose your draft student deferment if your grades dropped below 2.00 GPA. This was not the days of the 5 year degree. You had to finish your Bachelors in 4 years.
I roomed with a vet who joined the USMC for the GI Bill. This was the only way he could afford college. He worked full time and was a full time student. With the exception of 3 guys on my college baseball team, all of us worked either part or full time to pay for school.
My children were raised to work for the things they wanted. Each knew exactly how much we could give them to attend college. They were expected to pay for the rest. They did.
Please don’t paint all the baby boomers with the same brush.
Report Post »THXll38
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:24amNo disrespect Dismayed Veteran, but the baby boomer generation jacked a lot of crap up. My generation, generation X, are not that far behind. Lets face it, there is a reason why there are stereo types. I congratulate you on your achievement and I think that it is awesome. I to am the first one in my family to get a degree. However, I will continue to paint with a wide brush until I see a dramatic difference.
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:31amIf they got jobs they wouldn’t have time to PARTY!
I worked at a major University in the N.E. for a number of years, fulltime, to afford parttime college classes years after I graduated from high school! If you want an education, you can get one, pay for it and go on your way knowing very little more than you knew before attending “indoctrination classes” but with that “degree on your resume–a degree I never used in 45 years of working!
I have learned more through my private reading, asking questions, and seeking answers than I did attending an excellent university covering most of what I was already using in my fulltime and parttime jobs!
Report Post »00gabooga
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:44amExactly! If they can’t come up with $2000 in a YEAR then an education would be wasted on them anyway! Besides, that’s about the price of a Macbook and a new Iphone, and I bet they somehow found the money to pay for that.
Report Post »THXll38
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:06am00gabooga -
You are correct. People seem to have no problems paying for things that they want; however, they are hellbent on not wanting to pay for moral necessities such as life insurance, health care, and other items that are, in my mind, morally necessary for your family.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:15am.
This Kids are part of the “Free Lunch Crowd” that will re-elect Obama………
Brainwashed since Kindergarten…………
Report Post »Grillmark55
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:11amAnd they probably all have participation trophies for everything that they ever competed in.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:09am“He believes that in such tough economic times, the state can’t afford to be giving out so many free educations (the number of free educations is in dispute, but ranges from 25-50 percent). He also believes students need to have a stake in their education.”
I’m curious if anyone here is from AZ and is in college or has a child in college. When this says “free,” I’m guessing it just means tuition? The reason I wonder is I had relatives in MA while Romney was governor, and one piece of legislation was vowing to let students attend state college “for free” if they scored high enough on the state high school exams (called MCAS).
Turned out it was a crock. The UMASS universities just lowered tuition from $12,000 to about $2000… and made the rest “fees” of about $10,000, which weren’t covered. The “free” education didn’t extent to books, housing, or meal plans either. While it was nice to get $2000 off of the total cost, in-state students were still paying almost $20,000 a year. Hardly “free” at all!
So now when I hear “free” education, I’m dubious. Anyone know if AZ has a similar system in place?
Report Post »Marci
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:21amI am in Arizona and not sure if that is how it is done Locked, but most likely, it is certain people get a free ride period. Sounds like what this bill is doing is forcing even the lowest end of the spectrum to pick up some of the tab. But you could also be correct.
Report Post »go2joe
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:55am“So now when I hear “free” education, I’m dubious.”
One of the first rules you learn in economics in college is TNSTAFL, There is No Such Thing As a Free Lunch (ie. Education). Free is not free, if it is a service, good, or freedom someone pays for it.
If you want a free education join the military and EARN the GI Bill and the various military college funds. The bill also allows for an exemption for veterans because they EARNED it. Otherwise get a job and work your way through.
Maybe you have to go to University of Phoenix or the like instead of a traditional university. I went to a state university with people whose college was paid for them. These free loaders tended to do poorly and not finish. On the other hand I served in the military, took out student loans which I am paying currently, and worked 35 hours a week and finished on time.
This is a great life lesson on responsibility and the value of EARNING what you have.
Report Post »AlwysReady
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:11pmI live in AZ, my daughter is at the University of Arizona on a scholarship, she graduated with a 4.0 GPA. Arizona has a program for students of parents that are low income and as in MA, it only pays for tuition. I don’t think they are going to get much money from those families, they are probably at their limit on their bills, let alone any college expenditures.
Report Post »petev1717
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:03amJust hope the freeloader Illegel imigrents arn’t getting a free ride.
Report Post »oldguy49
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:15amits called a pell grant…….once illegals are out of school they can skip……….
Report Post »SoundStride
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 7:59amThese highly trained Marxist professors are not cheap I can see the cost increase it just makes sense.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:31amThat’s what the students need to stand up to .. go in and NEGOTIATE your tuition . … just like buying a car … I know doctors and dentists that do this .. why not these spoiled professors and colleges who are sitting on million dollar endowments??!!
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:15amMarxist professors run an Education Cartel that is every bit as damaging as the Drug cartel.
Students are forced to take 30 semester hours of humanities to get a diploma.
How about this. A person only take core courses & graduate in three years. Then when they don’t have to work 2 jobs to pay off college debt they will be looking to take courses of their own free will to enhance their life.
The college professors & the students will be on a level playing field. The college professor won’t have the leverage of the withholding the degree. The prospective student won’t be negotiating from a position of duress.
Report Post »jedi.kep
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 7:57amSuck it up cupcake! Go get another job and PAY your way through college like EVERYONE I know.
Report Post »Comeandtakeit
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 7:54amMy husband and I both worked our way through college. You mean people don’t??
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:04amIt’s so much easier to get on the government teat rather than work your way through college. My son tells me of some real losers who screw with him because he works while attending college. This is the best idea that I have heard of, get a little skin into the game punks.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:32amMy son did also . with help from living at home … the college looked at us like we were crazy when I said he didn’t have a “loan” and would be paying for his books in cash .. they acted like they didn’t know how to do that!
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:10amCatB
Report Post »They may not have been set up that way & their minds may have been conditioned to doing business one way.
lukerw
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 7:46amThere are no jobs… the World Economy is failing… but some idiots want a Degree to get the Best Jobs — Take your Education Money and start a Business!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:34amOr learn a trade .. people should take advantage of that “old” system .. the business gets a worker and you get a skill.
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:48amcatb – BINGO! Plumber, electrician, welder, automotive repair, small engine repair, HVAC, sheetmetal worker, computer tech etc etc etc. Unless and until the SHTF big time, everybody has pipes that can break, water/septic/sewer lines that can clog, furnace/ac that can stop running etc. These days there are too many college degrees floating around that in the real world aren‘t worth the paper they’re printed on vs a real need for trained people who don‘t think they are above actual physical labor and don’t mind sweating a little each day.
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