Bachmann Confirms Christian Leader Asked Her to Drop Out of GOP Presidential Race
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Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann appeared on Fox News’ “Fox & Friends” this morning, where she confirmed that Evangelical leader Bob Vander Plaats, president of The Family Leader, called her over the weekend to discuss the future of her candidacy.
Based on Bachmann’s words, it appears that the reported discussion about her potentially dropping out of the race was accurate. In addition to allegedly asking the congresswoman to drop her presidential bid, Vander Plaats also purportedly asked her to get behind either Rick Perry or Rick Santorum.
But Mediaite’s Nando Di Fino reports that Bachmann has no intention of bowing to this call, as she claims she has consistently polled better than either of the candidates she was apparently asked to support.
“I did receive a phone call,” Bachmann said on Fox. “[But] I’ve been polling above the Ricks. There would be no reason for me to drop out.” She made similar comments on CBS’s Early Show, saying, “It didn’t make sense because my numbers have always been above Senator Santorum’s.”
CNN has more corroboration from the Bachmann camp:
“[Bob] Vander Plaats called us on Saturday and asked us to consider the possibility of merging with another candidate,” Bachmann spokeswoman Alice Stewart told CNN. “He did not say whether we should be president or vice presidential candidate.”
“And obviously, we didn’t even consider that,” Stewart added. “We said, ‘Why would we do that?’”
On Tuesday, Politico initially reported that the phone call in question took place on Saturday, just three days before Vander Plaats announced that he would be endorsing Santorum. Here’s a portion from the Politico piece:
Iowa evangelical leader Bob Vander Plaats called Michele Bachmann and urged her to drop out of the race and endorse Rick Santorum, a source with knowledge of the conversation told POLITICO Tuesday. [...]
Evangelical, social conservatives have splintered between Santorum, Bachmann and Rick Perry in this year’s Iowa race. That dilution has left their leaders worried about the diminished influence they’ll have on picking the caucus winner, and ultimately, the Republican nominee.
Chuck Hurley, the president of the Iowa Family Policy Center who endorsed Santorum alongside Vander Plaats, said the Christian conservative movement would be better off if coalescing around a single candidate.
See Bachmann’s appearance on Fox, below, where she confirms that she “did receive a phone call” (around the 2:10 mark):
While Bachmann was somewhat vague about the discussion she had with Vander Plaats, it seems there are some discrepancies between his account of the conversation and her own. According to the Hill, Vander Plaats told CNN:
“It would make it a lot easier if a couple of them would team up. I talked to a few candidates and I said, ‘I’m not saying what you should do, I’m not telling you to drop out or anything of that nature, but if you like another candidate, maybe you and the other candidate should get together and say, hey, can we make something work where it’s a team deal.’”
It seems there’s a disconnect here. It will be interesting to see how the back-and-forth unfolds, as it seems someone isn’t being completely honest about what was said.
(H/T: Mediaite)



















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Comments (306)
blounttruth
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:33pmI would dare say that the establishment has asked Bachman to end her campaign after her debate performance, in which she had to resort to lies to support the neo conservative views to attack Iran. The power elite that want to use our military in another war of aggression are worried that too many lies found out about Iran may weaken the partisan support for war. Fortunately we are seeing in Iowa and New Hampshire the American people dropping partisan politics and voting for their best interests instead of the interests of the party. Principal over party is beating out even the pundit voices screaming from Fox news, as they will not get their bonuses from the pentagon if they do not sell this war to the American people, and they are weary of using false flags in this day of internet reporters and cameras on every individual. I would guess Bachman will relent in mid January due to depletion of funds to continue her PNAC sponsored campaign through the heartland, and from one true physical conservative to Mrs. Bachman, farewell.
Report Post »million
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:21pmIt must suck to be a Ron Paul supporter & then realize you’ve bet on a three legged horse. Don’t beleive the tripe the msm, including Fox News is putting out. In Iowa Bachmann is the one to beat. The msm has been able to poll in a manner that allows them to get the results they desire. Being from Ia. mark my words on where the people stand.
Report Post »ajbillings
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 3:11pmThere is a movement in the USA called Dominionism, which many Christians believe is their central mission. Their stated purpose is to invade all “7 mountains” of culture, government, and society and enshrine christianity as the central focus.
Mr Perry and Ms Bachmann definitely fall in with the Dominionists. Mr Santorum does not, but he is perhaps even more determined to create laws solely on the basis of his religious dogma.
I’d like to quote what Ronald Reagan said about that in 1984.
These are Ronald Reagan’s own words:
“We establish no religion in this country, we command no worship,
we mandate no belief. Nor will we ever. Church and state are, and
must remain, separate.
All are free to believe or not believe, all
are free to practice a faith or not, and those who believe are free
and should be free, to speak of and act on their belief.
At the same time as our constitution prohibits state religion,
establishment of it protects the free exercise of all religions.
And walking this fine line requires government to be strictly
neutral.”
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Report Post »From the extreme rhetoric I hear from many “conservatives” today, it sounds like President Reagan would be called a a Rino if he was to dare to give that speech today.
PATTY HENRY
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 9:55amDOMINIONS? R U CRAZY? I’ve never heard anything like this. Sounds like something ISLAMICS would do…you do not know GOD at all. HE already owns everything..he doesn‘t need to plot and plan to ’take over’. If there are any nut cases out there thinking they can convert by scheming, THEY don’t know GOD. God wants all of us to come to Him of our OWN FREE WILL. The type of manipulation you speak of has -0- to do with our GOD. Good try. NO CIGAR. Do not try to paint Christians with your Islamic brush. You will have to answer to GOD eventually.
Report Post »dnewton
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:23pmWhy didn’t Vander Plaats ask one or both of the Catholics to get out? So many people had to hold their nose for the last Republican presidential candidate, I think there is little commitment to the party to hold our noses again. Normally the purpose of a government is to be a terror to the wicked. Which one of these candidates will be a terror to the wicked?
Report Post »nostate
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:52pmNobody sane wants to live under a theocracy. Too bade so few people have the good sense to support a non-theist candidate.
SquidVetOhio
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:58pmYea, support a no-theist candidate like Stalin, Pol Pot, or chairman Mao. If only we had the good sense to stay away from those Bible thumpers like Washington, Adam, Jefferson, Lincoln….
Good Grief…..
THZebra
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:19pmI don’t think this has anything to do with Catholic Christians vs Protestant Christians. The tid-bits of difference between the various Christian traditions take a back seat to the enormous agreement that exists among all Christians…Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior. I believe his thought is to have one strong true conservative candidate with Christian principals in general that can win the presidency. Right now that field is too diluted. Nobody wants a theocracy (Christian or otherwise) but conservatives do want a conservative candidate who understands and will enforce the Judeo-Christian ideal our country was founded on.
Report Post »UFOCPrez
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:40pm@NoState Can you please cite one law that mandates that you do something according to any religious text?
Report Post »Jim AZ
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:43pmHijacked thread to be about religion over policy. Brilliant.
Report Post »and, WAY to GO! Sneaking in that older polling data, there Blaze and Fox. Wilson would be proud!
Br@dley
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 3:02pmshe should drop out. she makes us christians look like weird, evangelical extremists. a very strange lady indeed.
Report Post »MistyBlueAngel
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 3:17pm@ Nostate, just because someone with strong religious beliefs gets elected does not automatically null and void the Constitution, and turn the US into a “theocracy”. Use your head, and stop believing all of the liberal hype.
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 3:40pmJack Cafferty over at CNN has posted a question on his blog. Could Fast and Furious be Obama’s Watergate? I think he needs some conservative views on his blog…heehee He is going to read some of them on the air later. Of course all of the progressjves are blaming Pres. Bush.
Report Post »http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/20/could-fast-and-furious-eventually-become-president-obamas-watergate/
Caleb-Texas
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 3:43pmDear Friend,
It is painfully obvious browsing through the comments section of The Blaze that there is still a fervent and it seem acceptable bigotry against Catholics. This is truly sad, especially in a time where Christians have to be fully engage in today’s culture wars.
“There are not over a hundred people in the United States who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions, however, who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church.”
Fulton Sheen
Report Post »jungle J
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:07pmno state is defined by hate.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:26pmO’Reilly Warns Mitt Romney: Bombing Iran “starts World War III”
http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/10280-oreilly-warns-romney-bombing-iran-qstarts-world-war-iiiq
Report Post »ZengaPA65
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:39pmV-MAN MACE
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:30pm
She’s nuts.
She’s sexy, but she’s nuts, just like Sarah Palin.
I think she wants another crusade.
Agree 100%
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:58pmChristian principles are hard to uphold. Even for a “Christian leader.”
That’s why so many people deny God. He “IS” a difficult task mater.
I’m not even close to perfect, but I can tell you, God “IS” also merciful.
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:02pmWow, that’s kind of insulting. She’s not my choice but she has every right to run.
Report Post »dshevlin
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:14pmMichelle Bachmann will be that terror to the wicked. SHE IS THE ONLY CANDIDATE THAT HAS SAID ON PUBLIC TV & RADIO THAT SHE WILL NOT LET AMERICA PARTAKE IN AGENDA 21. SHE IS THE ONLY CANDIDATE THAT STUCK TO ‘NO’ ON THE DEBT CEILING DEBATE IN AUG. because SHE SAID, THAT IS WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANTED. SHE HAS ALSO SAID SHE WANTS ‘NO’ PARTICIPATION IN A NEW WORLD ORDER OR TRI LATERAL CURRENCY. Michelle Bachmann is a business woman, she is an IRS Attorney. That means she is good with numbers. The United States is upside down just like all of our homes are. We need her. YOU GO GIRL! Michelle for Prez. in 2012!!!!!!!
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:16pm@ Bradley- if you’re not wierd, extreme evangelical, then you’re a CINO.
Report Post »Like we need another sacriligious Oturd running the country?
holy ghostbuster
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:21pm@SQUIDVETOHIO – Jefferson a bible thumper? Really? I think you need to brush up on your history.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:22pm@nostate….
“Nobody sane wants to live under a theocracy. Too bade so few people have the good sense to support a non-theist candidate.”
Do you mean like non-thiest like the implication in Obama’s Audacity of Hope?
“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
That is certainly non-thiest, wouldn’t you say?
@broadley…..
“she should drop out. she makes us christians look like weird, evangelical extremists. a very strange lady indeed.”
Do you mean wierd like the line about his mother in Obama’s Dreams of my Father? “There was something about her that made me wary, a little too sure of herself, maybe and white.”
or, maybe this ditty from “Dreams”….”I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my fathers image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought myself: the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.”
So, you two are worried about Michelle Bachmann?
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:31pmAnd why or how did the Catholic church come into this discussion?
Report Post »That a minister would ask her to drop out in favor of someone he prefers is rediculous on the minister’s part- he’s sure not doing himself or his candidates any favors. If anything I’d be more inclined to vote for Bachmann just on his asking her to get out. As for his choice of characters- neither is worth spit as far as I’m concerned. Of those ‘running’, so far only Bachmann and Paul have any right to even be contending for POTUS, IMO.
ChevalierdeJohnstone
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:59pmWow, the first comment I read is a bigoted anti-American screed which singles out members of a particular religious faith for scorn. A far cry we’ve come from the principles clearly stated in the Declaration of Independence. Goodbye, America. Some of us will always love you and remember you.
Report Post »DeborahRobbins
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:14pmNo one here is wicked. Michele Bachmann is for the people, all people! She is reinstating this country on the foundation it was founded on in 1776!
Also there is no gender in Christ!
Report Post »Lgbpop
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:04pmWe did that four years ago. Been there, done that, regret it. Not only am I gonna vote for a believer, it‘ll be a plus if he’s a Mason or she’s an Eastern Star as well.
Oh, and Mr. Vander Plaats, if I am forced yet again to hold my nose while I vote, I may as well vote for the biggest stinker and that’s Obama.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:26pmYo Okie:
Report Post »I did not really mean that about Ron Paul. He seems like a decient person and in my opinion would be best suited to oversee our finances as a nation but not as president. The reason I worded my response so strongly is that you and V- man who calls himself a christian (not judging) would call a sister in Christ that has adopted 17 children (correct me if wrong) and who by all accounts seems to not just talk but live what she says she believes a nut, a crazy person. You can agree with whomever you want and vote the same.. maybe I am a little sickened by all the name calling and arrogance expressed by those that proclaim their faith in Christ. Scripture says to not consider everything a man says… I know this cause God reminded me of these verses and still does so I wish not to do that here. I’m trying to raise my standard… without pointing fingers seems others don’t really care… no wonder the world sees us as hypocrites. I do believe my posting days may be soon over, I’m doing no good here….have a blessed Christmas.
The10thAmendment
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:29pmWho says that person is a Christian to begin with? Appears to be more of a cultist of the Branch Davidian.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:29pmNot only that but that person is probably of the same cult that believes Dorothy Day should be given Saint status.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 9:02pmI should have handled Michelle’s election campaign. She’s got a good message for the most part, but she lacks a convicted group surrounding her on how to get it out with force and conviction. She has done better publicly but still doesn’t have the power that people can latch onto.
Report Post »Carl McPherson
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 12:45amI would vote for her in a heartbeat.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:46am@4truth2all
I knew you were joshing my friend. You do a lot of good work here and I encourage not to stop posting. I enjoy reading your comments and many others read your words as well, even if they do not reply.
The issue with Bachmann and the reason I refer to her as “nuts” is due to her belief in intervention around the world. As a spiritual brother you know God had no intention for us to be worldly first of all let alone create and head a world government. Example: 1st gulf war we intervened for Saudi Arabia. Do you support American troops being the army for a Muslim nation? Would God? Bachmann does. We intervene for Saudi yet we don’t go to Darfur were millions are slaughtered. Why not? That makes zero sense to me and shows we are not intervening for the right reasons…
Another reason, she constantly gets her facts wrong. I’ve looked up her “facts” and many are shown not true and twisted to mean something they never meant in the first place.
Another reason she says we must protect Israel though BiBi and several other Israeli leaders publicly said they do not want American support or military.
She supports foreign aid to Muslim nations, Pakistan particularly for “intel”, though bin Laden was found in Pakistan showing they aren’t giving us intel.
I should probably use better language but I hope you see my thoughts on why. Again, keep the faith and keep posting. I hope your Christmas is great my friend. Stay safe.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 6:48amufocpres. our laws are based on the 10 commandments. thou shalt not steal, etc.
Report Post »mtrublu
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 9:29amFew theists actually want to see a theocratic government. The reason there are so few who support non-theist candidates is, thankfully, we have so few that are truly moronic enough to support such an imbecile.
Report Post »UrsaMajor
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 9:54amI love how self-professing “Conservatives” are willing to label Bachmann as a looney because the Progressive/Wilson Era Fascists in the mainstream media have presented her as such. Follow the rest of the Progressive lemmings off that cliff “Conservatives”.
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 11:12amWHY Vanderplaats believes he has the right to tell Michele to step down is a mystery. His web site, TheFamilyLeader, is filled with pompous exaggerations about his “importance.” Where Michele is a success, Vanderplaats is a 3X loser in runs for governor of IA. Vanderplaats was also involved in Mike Huckabee’s failed campaign. Maybe the wise thing for Santorum to do, would be for him to tell Vanderplaats “Thanks! But, No Thanks!
WHAT’S going on here? Is Vanderplaats jealous because Michele is a woman and a profound success, while Vanderplaats is a man and a profound failure?
WHATEVER! I‘ve posted on Michele’s web site, telling Michele to ignore VanderPlaats and to keep on going. Michele Is MORE Than Qualified To Be President Of The United States!
Michele Could Come Thundering To The ForeFront In the Very Near Future! God Willing, In Jesus’ Name!
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 11:43amDeborahRobbins
Jesus Christ is a MAN and was a MAN before anything was created.
Satan (Lucifer/ Baphomet/ whatever) is the one who has gender issues.
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 1:05pmDon’t forget that evangelicals gave us Jimmy Carter. Its no surprise that they are attacking real conservatives in this race as well.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 10:00amWhy does anyone believe this self-agrandizing woman? She tried to co-opt the Tea Party movement in 2009, even took it into the House…it is a way of THINKING, of being Patriotic, not any one group…she tried to make it that. She lies about so many things, doesn’t she? She sure fooled Glenn Beck, but she didn’t fool most of us, obviously. She needs to go home and think about her actions. She sliced and diced Pawlenty; she back-stabbed Sarah Palin (who was the first to help her); she was NOT ready for prime-time and she was the most self-serving of all candidates besides Huntsman. She’s just trying to grab headlines again.
Report Post »Gamaliel
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:23pmThe anti-Bachmann sentiment among conservatives mystifies me. Many seem to be willing to overlook gross shortcomings and progressive policies in the other candidates. Supposedly, Bachmann gets the facts wrong. To me it seems like nit-picking when it comes to any minute misspeak on Bachmann’s part. Is it sexism, the feeling she will be Palined, or my fear is that it could be Bachmann is so on target that even tea party conservatives aren’t really ready for what is needed.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:30pmShe’s nuts.
She’s sexy, but she’s nuts, just like Sarah Palin. Stop trying to manipulate me with my weakness for sexy white women.
Ron Paul 2012.
Report Post »MatthewChapter24
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:37pmI‘m also baffled why conservatives were so enamoured with Palin and yet they don’t seem to pledge the same support and loyalty to Bachmann (who, in my opinion, presents herself as more respectable, intelligent, serious, knowledgeable, articulate and grounded than Palin).
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:51pmShe should buddy up with Ron Paul and run as his VP.
Report Post »( LOL @ V-man, so true for alot of guys)
4truth2all
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:55pmSince when does righteousness equate to being “nuts” ?
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:10pmI think she wants another crusade.
She is also seriously nuts to try to portray herself as a Tea Party member, yet she voteds to trample all over Tea Party member’s RIGHTS when she voted for the unconstitutional, liberty-shredding Patriot Act Extension. She cannot reconcile that with her claim to support small government. She also has her intel discombobulated in regards to the IAEA report on the Iranian nuke program, and would likely start WW3.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:19pmIf she would denounce her vote for the Patriot Act Extension, I MIGHT change my mind about her.
But she would only be telling me what I want to hear. So that wouldn’t weigh heavily on me. Obama said he wouldn’t sign the National Defense Authorization Act, and acted like it was because he didn’t want Americans caught up in a dragnet, but HE was the one who demanded the power to detain Americans indefinitely!
And he CAMPAIGNED on closing Guantanamo!
NO COMPROMISE!
Ron Paul 2012.
Report Post »TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:25pmMystified as well. Just wrote to their site to express my sentiments which are: I choose my candidate and it has been Michele Bachmann. If Santorum or Perry are left standing one of them will be my choice after she herself chooses or does not make the primary. To underscore my sentiments I sent my first constribution today. To Michele Bachmann.
Report Post »SpeakUPNJ
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:29pmBachmann is the Tea Party candidate. She represents best the ideals of the Tea Party Movement more than any of the other candidates. She has stood up for Tea Party ideals when ALL other candidates equivocate on the issues…she stands ALWAYS with the Tea Party Movement. Those, including Tea Party Conservatives, that drink the liberal socialist media koolaide and say she’s a flake should just take a long look at the Marxist Socialist flake they elected to be President in 2008 and the destruction he continues to wreak on America. Bachmann has all the right stuff to be a TRULY GREAT AMERICAN President. Americans should start to consider the need for character traits like trust and honesty in selecting their leader RIGHT NOW…or we’ll soon be living in a Socialist Gulag and wishing we had.
Report Post »4freedomssake
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 2:24pmYes, a lot of t is sexism, I have run into the opinion that because she is a woman, she shouldn’t be President. What is more astounding to me is the Tea Party that I belong to has not come out and supported her after her being the one who has fought the Tea Party battles the last 3-4 years. And she would shred Obama like she did Newt and Romney. The media keeps saying Newt had a good response to Bachmann, yet Newt has plunged in the polls NATIONWIDE since the debate, while the media attributes Newt’s fall to the ads that are mainly shown in Iowa. TEA
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 3:02pmYou go girl! I support her all the way.
Report Post »MistyBlueAngel
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 3:20pmWhatever, V-man. You‘re really out there if you think Ron Paul has a snowball’s chance in He!! of getting elected. All he’s doing is splitting the conservative vote, much like Perot did back in the nineties.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 3:40pmYo V-man:
That does not make her nuts.
She also realizes the “real” threat from Iran which your guy seems to completely ignore which could cost us greatly.
I don’t call you nuts because you see things differently then myself you fruitcake (jokin)… have a good Christmas… stay away from the nuts…
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 3:58pm@V Man
Agreed! So many talk about Ron Paul being a “kook” but look how much this nut job has gotten wrong! She says crazy stupid stuff all the time, not to mention she discriminates. She‘s a joke and doesn’t represent TEA….
After Iowa, Bachmann and Santorum will be out of the race.
A “Christian” leader and Michelle Bachmann cannot get their stories correct, so which one is lying? Why would anyone want the endorsement of a lying “Christian” leader? How sad for Iowans…..
@MistyBlueAngel
Ron Paul is beating Michelle Bachmann so Ron has a better shot than Michelle……
Report Post »acs
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:02pmwell spoken
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:19pmMistyBlueAngel
Michelle Bachmann is trying to split the conservative Tea Party vote. You’re really out there if you think she is a conservative when she voted to STOMP on your rights with the Patriot Act Extension.
4truth2all
That does make her crazy IN MY OPINION, and MY opinion is the only one that counts when it comes to MY vote. She fabricated intel that doesn’t exist about Iran and nukes (very dangerous), and Ron Paul had to put her crazy eyes back squarely in their place.
Report Post »dshevlin
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:29pmYou all better wake up, Michelle is the only sane one out there. That’s why they want her to go. V-Man et al: Let me remind you all of something you keep forgetting. This country is broke. Keep telling yourselves that until you understand it. We take in 2 trillion a year and we spend 4 trillion. It’s that simple. The U.S. is upside down just like all of our mortgages vs. market value. No difference. We have a 17 trillion dollar DEBT, and then the 2 trillion dollar deficit. A deficit is negative money. We borrow from foreign nations to pay our bills. Ron Paul will most certainly collapse the economy by abolishing many federal agencies. Did anyone ever think of that? How many millions of federal employee’s will be unemployed and there is no real money funding unemployment now with these people working. Michelle is a business woman, she is an IRS attorney. This means she is good with numbers. She is the ONLY one of the candidates that has publically said she will NOT let America participate in Agenda 21. She has said she will not let America be part of a new world order or currency. She is the only one who stuck to NO on the debt ceiling debate in Aug. because, she said, that is what the American people wanted. NO ONE ELSE IS SAYING THESE THINGS. WAKE UP PEOPLE. She is the one to better days. Michelle for Prez. in 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:57pm@DShelvin
How much does war cost? Can we wage war against Iran like Michelle wants if we are broke? Rut roe…..
Intervention is part of Agenda 21….Agenda 21 is simply intervention against the USA…If we tell other what to do we will surely be told what to do. Michelle tells other nations what to do and believes in intervention. Aren’t WE “Christians” suppose to treat others how we want to be treated? Rut roe again….
If Ron Paul eliminates 5 departments it will not cause a collapse. If anything it will mean will have less taxes to pay due to bloated big government shrinking. With government out of the way the private sector can begin to work. Government intrusion is destroying our private sector.
Ron Paul will restore the $. Michelle will continue down the path we are on, a $ crash.
Michelle is not the woman for the job. If you are HONEST a lot of the policies she supports caused the mess of today….Doing those same policies would be actual insanity….Bachmann is done…
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:20pmYo V-man:
You don’t think that Iran wants nukes ? and he lied about her.
Yo Okie:
Report Post »I think Ron Paul is a crazy moron fool and a retarded imbicile.
cyntro
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:24pmFolks who say Backmann is nuts have never known a Christian who actually lives like Christs asks
Report Post ». This phone call shows Plaats sexism.
decendentof56
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:26pm@ V-Man Mace….
Report Post »“I think she wants another crusade.”
You would mean like the Islamic Caliphate, no doubt?
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:19pm@4Truth2All
Why? Cause he believes in God and the individual or because he doesn’t believe in a world government and world religion? :-)
Hope you enjoy the holidays……
Report Post »KYHighlander
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:58pmI started out as pro Bachmann, but the last debate where she accused Gingrich of supporting partial birth abortion even though he voted for the ban on it really astounded me. When you twist the truth that much it becomes a lie. I‘ll vote for her if she manages to win the nomination but I’d have to hold my nose the way I did with McCain.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 9:30pmYo Okie:
Report Post »Please see my reply to yours above…I mistakenly posted it there.
decendentof56
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:52pmTo KYHIGHLANDER….
Report Post »You may have to hold your nose to vote for Bachmann (I honestly don’t know why), but it certainly will not be for the same reasons that you did it for McCain.
McCain was weak, and would not attack Obama’s racially motivated past and present, or Obama’s associations (Ayars, Wright), as well as his leftist ideas on “spreading the wealth around”.
donotdrinkthekoolade
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 3:38amIt’s the good-ole-boy club trying to get the only woman to drop out. I like Bachmann and she should stay in tough! I don’t think she will get the nomination, but she should not drop OUT! We need a woman to go the distance.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 8:38amdshevlin
You don‘t need to tell us that we’re broke, we Ron Paul supporters already know that, we’re the ones who interjected the Federal Reserve issue. The rest of you are just TRYING TO CATCH UP!!!
You said Ron Paul would collapse the entire economy by abolishing bloated federal agencies that waste my money just by their existence? How much crack did you smoke this morning?
” …there is no real money funding unemployment…” …yea, and we don’t want any money “funding unemployment”…what the hell is WRONG with you?
“She is an IRS Attorney, so that means she’s good with numbers”…ROTFLMFAO!!!!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! That was a GOOD one!
4truth2all
China has nukes. Russia has nukes. Israel has 300+ nukes. Come off it.
decendentof56
I think she wants to continue Neocon Bush’s Preemptive War strategy.
I say “NO!” sternly with a vote for Ron Paul. This has nothing to do with her sex.
Report Post »UrsaMajor
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 9:58amIt’s because she has the wrong “plumbing” below the waist. Strong Conservative women make Progressive males feel insecure about their equipment. No real Conservative MAN has a problem supporting Bachmann.
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:23pmThis gentleman probably thinks that she’s not militant enough in her religious views. It’s about time to expose these Bellamy socialists for what they are.
Report Post »Deckle
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:21pmAny Christian leader who asked her to get out of the race is a fool and obviously not a true Christian who understands the word of God! Go Michelle GO! Keep it up you are telling the truth and making people fearful of hearing the truth!
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 3:32pmBob Vander Plaats is not a religious leader. He’s a basketball coach who ran for office unsuccessfully three times, campaigned for Mike Huckabee in 2008, and formed a social conservative political group which is nothing but a less influential knockoff of Focus on the Family.
Report Post »garyM
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:10pmFrom past elections, we can gleen from what Iowa does has no effect on the nomination. As a matter of fact, Huckabee won Iowa last time and then we know what happened after that. If Ron Paul wins Iowa, I will no longer look at Iowa as an evangelical state but a bunch of people who don’t understand what the Bible says about being a shining light as a Christian. I don’t think anyone should falsely use their faith in God as means of getting votes. To clarify that, if the candidates is being honest about their faith, that is exactly what God wants and if they are only speaking it to get votes, God is well aware of their motives since he knows the motives of all people’s heart and that will not be good for the candidate that is doing so, whether it be in a secret meeting or in a public meeting.
I believe sometimes God gives us things and leaders that will put a hardship us or on a nation so they will wake up and know He is God. The Bible indicates that truth in many places. The majority of Americans has ignored God’s grace and mercy way to long, ignored His precepts with their legislation! As Christians, we just remain faithful and let God be God. We may go through the hardships along with the people who have ignored Him but one day He will rescue us from all evil, maybe not in this world but when He comes for His people.There are many different versions of theology out there, God will allow us to be wrong about some things but not the means of salvation through Jesus!
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:40pmThank goodness Iowa has some sensible people.
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:05pmIf McCain had this much spine and took on the facts he would be President.. All McCain had to do was say Obama-Pelosi, Obama-Reid, Obama-Pelosi, Obama-reid a thousand times and people would have “gotten” it.
Report Post »ANY nominee that repeats, “Obamacare” Alinsky, obama, reid, obama-Pelosi, Alinsky RADICALS, obama-pelosi, Obamacare a thousand times will walk into the Whitehous carrying a Conservative majority in Congress with them.
Forget the distractions- THIS election is about Alinsky radicals, obama, pelosi and reid — SAME AS 2010 Now that America understands “what is – Alinsky radical, OBAMA, PELOSI, And REID (frankendodd too) 2012 should be a walkaway landslide!
What is this election about? — Alinsky radicals, OBAMA, PELOSI, And REID and OBAMACARE!
Repeat!
awkingsley
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:04pmJust in case Ghandi was a Republican is not a “tongue in cheek” reference, I am correcting this misinformation. Ghandi was a Socialist and is the spiritual leader who was responsible for institutionalizing Socialism in India, which guaranteed India’s current poverty stricken economy.
Report Post »rdk
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:05pmIt would be appropriate for Bachmann to suggest to Vander Pants that he resign from his position of leadership.
Report Post »John 3:16
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:51pm@ RDK I am beginning to think that is a good idea. I have sent donations to Bob’s org. I will no longer being doing that. GO Michele Bachman!!!! She is the only one I feel that we can really trust. Michele is a COMPLETE Patriot
Report Post »boncarbo7
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 2:11pmI agree, this guy has lost every race he has entered, why should Bachmann even consider listening to him, and what right does he have in asking any of the candidates to withdraw from the race?
Report Post »bbyrdhouse
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:04pmJust made my second donation of hard earned cash to my 2nd choice for President.
My list was like this:
Cain then Paul, then Bachmann
Now its Paul then Bachman, then Santorum
Romney or Gingrich as never been on my list … In my opinion, a vote for either Romney or Gingrich is the equivalent of a vote for Obama, they are just a different color and don’t drive quite as fast to the Land of Communism as Obama does.
But hey, … thats just my opinion … I could certainly live with a Bachmann presidency and I’d sure like to see here come alive and beat out Gingrich in Iowa.
Report Post »dshevlin
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:37pmAhh, here you are again with a button. Go back in to the comments. I wrote one to you. You NEED to read all my comments several times. Thanks.
Report Post »stockpicker
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:02pmVander Plaats is another in a long line of false teachers. Why would anyone pay attention to this guy.
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:24pmUnfortunately, many do.
Report Post »dnewton
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:56pmI think it is because the evangelicals are split or undecided. If someone of stature or authority stands up and says “go this way” many will. The uncertainty that we complain about in the economy is also in the political realm. Ideally, this would make the Obama Administration defend so many challengers that it would diminish the war chest for the final Democrat campaign. Any evangelical who would vote for a Catholic could be relied upon to vote for a Mormon. What are we going to do when we have two or more Atheist to choose among?
Report Post »4freedomssake
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 2:34pmI agree! And he could not even get the group he heads to agree with his choice of Santorum, not emphasized by the media. Bachmann has been ‘Borked’ by the media, makes you wonder why they are so afraid of her.
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:01pmWho the heck does this Vander Plaat think he is.. God?? Shame on you.. Go Michelle! Don’t be listening to him.. after all he is only a man… and we all know how well they have done in Washington! God help us!
Report Post »ShyLow
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:43pmIf Michelle ever read the bible then she would know it is wrong for a women to be above a man…Shame on any christian that would vote for a christian woman over a christian man!!!..Woman should get behind their men and strenghten them…Michelle is just another Hillary!!!..We need a woman in office like we need another trillion dollar war…and Michelle is sure to bring us just that…Shame to all women that claim to be christian and try to place themselves above men…If Glenn didn’t belong to the Mormon cult,he would probably backed Paul or Santorum by now instead of having his head up this femenist war-mongers’ behind
Report Post »EchoHawk
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 2:07pmThis is a perfect example of why religion has no place in American politics. I’d vote for him losing his tax exempt status.
Report Post »Simonne
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 3:03pmI’m not a supporter of Bachmann but she has stronger poll numbers than some of the others he supports. Why should she get out? To the other poster, we have equal rights in this country & women have less sex scandals.
Report Post »I support Romney but I have never heard Beck saying he supports him. He prefers Bachmann to all others. Romney lives a good christian life so what’s your beef?
bbyrdhouse
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 3:59pm@SHYLOW
You dingleberry … the Bible makes no such statement.
1 Timothy 2:12 is Paul writing to young Timothy and giving him instructions on how things should operate within the church. It has nothing to do at all with civil government.
You’d be better off to stop believing what somebody else says the Bible says and actually study it for yourself.
Report Post »madasblazes
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:45pmIgnore Shylow.
If men did the job they were supposed to do; women wouldn’t need to be the ones to “get ‘er done”!
Report Post »historical patriot
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 8:58amshylow: You should try reading the whole Bible, not just some misplaced, out-of-context verse that serves your purpose. If/when you read it all, you will find Deborah (a married woman) was the leader over Israel when they were in a similar situation as we find ourselves now. You might also be amazed at Esther’s role in preserving the Jewish people. The last time I looked, America is not, nor ever has been a church. Uneducated morons, like yourself, may very well put the finishing touches on the destruction of this country.
Report Post »UrsaMajor
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 10:06amSo, Shylow, if what you say is true then why did God appoint a woman to be a Judge (leader) of the entire nation of Israel? You know… His chosen people?
There’s an entire BOOK about it in the Old Testament. Or do you only read the parts that fit into YOUR view of what a Christian should be?
Report Post »neverending
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:00pmMaybe I missed something but I heard her say she did get a phone call but did not say it was specifically to drop out of the race. Typical bachmann
Report Post »vehoae
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:00pmKnow what I find interesting? How Americans scream & holler over how badly the female species is treated in other countries (particularly in the Middle East). The freedoms they do not have simply because their spirits were placed into the bodies of female human beings. And the outright slavery to which they are subjected by so-called family members and by their societies. And how they are forced to participate into multiple-partner-marriages.
I suggest people make a cursory review of the ignorant, bigoted, and slanderous treatment of female candidates for the offices of President and V-President in the so-called free U.S.A. It has pretty much been the same since women began participating in U.S.A. politics in the late 19th century. And it continues.
Amongst those most vociferously opposed to female candidates in this country are other females! I don’t know if it is outright feminine jealousy which triggers this female-on-female hatred, or if it comes from females’ habits of developing crushes on men (i.e., preachers, politicians, actors, etc.).
In the past few days, I’ve heard registered Republicans (both sexes) say they would vote for Hillary C. before any female Republican. Seeing women from the X and Y generations (on both sides of the isle) displaying the same level of ignorance, bigotry, and slander as displayed by their babyboomer and older ancestors is a sad commentary on societal maturation.
Report Post »symphonic
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:12pmThat’s what I was thinking! This preacher is so sexist because he asks the female front runner (among that evangelical fav pack) to drop out so the man candidates can do better. What hogwash!
Report Post »MatthewChapter24
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:41pmApparently evangelical leader Van Der Plaats has forgotten his history about Queen Esther.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 3:00pmthe female species…….????
Report Post »dshevlin
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 12:19am@VEHOAE – Really great point. Needed to be made, good job! Hilary isn’t really a woman, that’s probably why you heard that :) They are afraid of the nice looking educated women. Why do you think that is? Maybe because she might be able to get something done. Gee, wouldn’t that be horrible! Good post. A woman is needed, Michele is that woman.
Report Post »K. Iandoli
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:56amHe should have told Santorum and Perry to drop out and back Bachmann. She is the one true conservative running, that can beat Obama, is a proven fighter for our liberties and doesn’t have any baggage to claim.
Report Post »symphonic
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:13pmisn’t that the truth? And it just makes you wonder what a sexist this preacher man is.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:34pmShe doesn’t have a chance because she will never win over the independent vote. At least not from the ones who actually go beyond her 15 sec. sound bites, baseless statements and superficial policy stances.
Report Post »dshevlin
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:42pmYES!! Please read my post above.
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:48pm——HOLY GHOSTBUSTER
@SQUIDVETOHIO – Jefferson a bible thumper? Really? I think you need to brush up on your history.
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I’m afraid Squid is perfectly happy with the history he/she has made up. Truth and facts are not part of the teapublican playbook.
Report Post »UrsaMajor
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 10:11amYeah… she’d never win in the general elcetion bbecause she is way too Conservative for the Independents.
Just like that Reagan fella was way too Conservative. Boy, THAT guy sure was a loser with the Independents!
Report Post »fightinggranny
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:54amSorry, I will support my candidate. Ron Paul is a one trick pony and will never win the nomination. This is the objective of a primary; to select the best candidate. Pawlenty backing Romney did not do him any good. Stay true to your values, espouse them clearly, and they will come.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:51amStand tough Bachmann, the Huffington post has your back. Why would you say that? Your attacks on Newt and Paul were , well lets just say “made up stuff” Every news outlet wrote about it. Someone Please send this poor lady a bus ticket home. She is as broke as the Federal Government. Even if she won Iowa, she has no staff in NH.
Report Post »4freedomssake
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 2:47pmThey were not made up and Newt and Paul know it.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 2:54pmOh really, well lets not look to far or hard. Maybe we will start right here on the Blaze. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ap-fact-check-gingrich-was-off-on-budget-history-bachmann-has-worst-record-of-accuracy/ Would be nice if you did your homework be for you start to type.
Report Post »123456beatriz
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:43amWho in hell This “creature Pastor” is thinking he is?. Hey you “Pastor” Go=Hell
Report Post »JRook
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:36am“There would be no reason for me to drop out.” Actually there are about1,000 but they have nothing to do with the other candidates.
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:32am“I’ve been polling above the Ricks. There would be no reason for me to drop out.”
The Ricks? There is only one “Rick” running as far as I know. And the fact she has been flat-lining in the single digits for many many months, I say there are plenty of reasons for the gaff queen to drop out.
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:38amShe said “The Ricks”.. So what.. It’s a play on words crumpet head..
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:41amopps! Santorum and Perry
Report Post »yiska8
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:46amRick Perry and Rick Santorum. Hence, the Ricks. Bachmann is a strong Tea Party candidate, but the RINOS and Liberal media, do not want her up against Obama, because that would stoke the quieting Tea Party fire. Yes, she’s made mistakes, but she still comes out an Einstein compared to the gaffs this President continues to make. I‘ve stopped counting at Obama’s latest gem, “Hawaii is a part of Asia.” comment. One on one, Bachmann is more intelligent than Obama, but her mistakes are blown up and out to the biggest display possible. Obama’s are never heard of. Rick Perry’s mistakes are turned into a joke. She should not quit. Not yet.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:47am“ Rick Perry or Rick Santorum ”
What’s so hard for you to understand PONTIAC?
gaff??? You should talk!
TEA!
Report Post »kwolfburg
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:50amTwo Ricks actually, one from Tx., the other from Pa. You must use that new math.
Report Post »K. Iandoli
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:53amRick Santorum and Rick Perry. There are two Ricks running.
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:55amUmmmmmm….. Counting must not be your best attribute, huh?
Report Post »CaptMickeyd
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:56amRick Perry and Rick Santorum. Perhaps you haven’t been paying attention.
Report Post »oitsugina
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:02pmDoes anyone see how bias works on the mind?? It happens on both sides I’m afraid. Its part of the sheeple mindset.
Report Post »symphonic
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:15pmsounds like PONTIAC the gaff queen needs to drop out of commenting, since RICKS is totally a great play on words, and there are two Ricks being spoken of here…
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:47pmWait, who’s Santorum? This is news to me. The entire lineup is a sad joke… Nothing but career politicians. Bachmann offers no real substance. Every sentence/soundbite out of here mouth has to include the words taxes/america/americans/god/pray/faith/dead american icon/founding fathers/constitution because her pollsters told her it polled well with tea partiers. It’s like country music made in the last 20 years, the same regurgitated pattern with a simplistic guitar strum. She, a tax lawyer, wont do a thing to abolish the convoluted & corrupt tax code, it wouldn’t be in the interest of her lawyer friends. She only gave the Fairtax lip service (oh yeah great idea but may lead to income & consumption taxes…) Her best attempt at demeaning Cains 999 plan was to infer it was in essence “evil”. Wow what a great debater she is! Certainly not polarizing and stupid! I hope a bunch of them drop out and someone else gets in the race because all we got now are career clowns…
[but she still comes out an Einstein compared to the gaffs this President continues to make.]
There is a difference in that the media will give Obama a pass as usual and her gaffs will be front page news. So no, that is not going to favor swing voters that don’t follow fraking politics. She’s to damn polarizing and the disconnect between her mouth and brain will cost us an election.
http://tinyurl.com/4ywaotu
Hurr Durr TEA!!!
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:49pmPontiac
Report Post »You may want to change your name now. “ I feel your pain” not really but hope it makes you feel better. We all make mistakes, so dont worry about it. Send Bachmann some gas money or a bus ticket home and we will forget it.
Therightsofbilly
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:03pm@Pontiac
Bow lower
:)
Report Post »True American66
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 1:10pmRICK Perry and RICK Santorum….maybe you don’t know as much as you think you do.
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 2:03pmNotice how you guys singled in on one miniscule thing and completely ignored every legitimate point I made? Yeah, you guys just demonstrated what the media and Obama will do to her but they will do it 10 fold, and it will work. She doesn’t have a chance in hell in winning primaries. She wont even break 15% if “the Ricks” dropped out. She’s a dud.
Report Post »TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 2:15pmSo now we know you can’t count please tell us about her gaffs. Count them down.
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 2:36pmI know the internet is a tough thing to figure out granny but you need to do your own homework.
Report Post »Here, I’ll give you a hand
http://tinyurl.com/c4ynru7
yiska8
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:50pmYes, she is an EINSTEIN compared to Barack Hussein Obama. And she knows that he is the enemy to beat. She reiterates that at most of the debates I’ve watched. Bachmann didn‘t like Cain’s 999 plan, so what? That’s why we have different candidates offering differing opinions. And she didn’t get rid of Herman Cain. The Republican establishment did that, namely Mitt or Newt’s camp. C’mon, no one noticed how silent Romney’s camp got when the Cain allegations surfaced? And let’s face it, Herman had to know they were going to DIG until they got rid of him. Mean and ugly, but it was bound to happen with those kinds of secrets hidden away. Bachmann, seems like a nice lady and a determined one. I hope she lands somewhere on the ticket. She knows Iran and she understands the Muslim Brotherhood. She remembers 9-11, she understands NUMBERS, she fought Obamacare. I watched her fight and warn against it and she is not lying about that. Keep fighting Bachmann!!!!
Report Post »libertylover55
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:50pmShe knows what she is saying—Rick Santorum and Rick Perry—the Ricks.
Report Post »lodgerat
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:30amKeep on going Michele. I think you have decent shot. I know you’ll have my vote. God Bless and good luck.
Report Post »MonkeyBeagle
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:21amI understand why the social conservatives want Santorum and Bachmann to combine… But seeing how she has consistently out polled him and she won aims straw poll, It is sexist and inconceivable that someone would expect her to play second fiddle. I like Bob Vander Platts, but he should of asked Santorum to Drop out and Be her VP.
It doesnt matter any how, If Bachmann doesnt convince Santorum to be her VP before the Iowa caucus, we will have a Ron Paul Win.. And that is just fine by me. Cause I think Paul may be the medicine that this country needs! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Pv1KQGNU0
Report Post »CatB
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:41amYou had me up until the end .. no matter what happens in Iowa — Paul will not be the nominee.
Report Post »thekuligs
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:54amMe too.. I was like good good RON PAUL?! DOH
Report Post »MonkeyBeagle
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:08pmRon Paul isnt the boogie man. :) I love Bachmann, she was my first choice but the truth is we will never have a peoples candidate again with this republican establishment always shoving Rhinos down our throat. At least if Ron Paul wins the Republicans will start letting the process work, and letting us choose our own candidates. They meddle in the process too much.
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 12:52pmAgree. Ron Paul 2010!
Report Post »Snidely
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 1:09amRight now I’m thinking Ron Paul will win Iowa (but not the nomination) for much the same reason I thought BHO was going to beat Hillary four years ago. Yard signs. In this case, lack of them. Usually in caucus years, we see a lot of yard signs. Not that it influences anyone’s vote, but it is a straw poll of sorts. This year, I’m see very few yard signs, and the ones I do see are for Ron Paul and Mitt Romney.
I’ll be voting for Rick Santorum. Not because of Vander Plaats’ endorsement, but that does confirm what I was already seeing in Senator Santorum. By the way, I don’t have a Santorum yard sign – although I did have a Vander Plaats yard sign when he ran for governor.
Report Post »arjundawg
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:18amI wish she would drop out. She is pathetically fake. She has attacked everyone else in the field in hopes for votes. Lie, attack exaggerate …nothing is beneath her. She attacked the 9 9 9 plan for being a vat tax…anyone who knows what a vat tax is can clearly tell the difference between that and Cain’s plan. And this is coming from a “tax lawyer”. Then wanted his endorsement once he dropped out. She’s fake, extra and a pathetic excuse for the position she’s running for.
Report Post »123456beatriz
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:49am@Arjundawg=Soros=MediaMatters=Liberals
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:52pm@123456BEATRIZ=Rush=Beck=Levin=Savage=idiot
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:15amNo way ! That smile needs to be marketed !
Report Post »Gary747
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:11amBachmann made the right call here. The purpose of the primaries is to select a candidate from those who want to run for President. Get as many people as you can in the race… as people vote, one winner will finally emerge.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:32amNow there’s the logic I follow. Weed out the wackos and get the best imperfect nominee that is as conservative as possible.
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:08am“The reality is Ron Paul is poised to become a major figure in the Republican Party if his momentum continues and he’s able to win in Iowa,” said GOP strategist Steve Schmidt, who managed the campaign of Sen. John McCain (Ariz.), the party’s 2008 nominee.
Report Post »MICHELLE BACHMANN NEEDS TO SUPPORT THE FRONTRUNNER!
JLGunner
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:16amAs nutty as Paul is, I would vote for him to get rid of commie barack. We’ll hash out the rest of our issues when we get rid of baracks administration and huge government machine he wants us to pay for by making those evil rich people pay up.
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:55amRon Paul’s value is waking the kiddos who think they are liberals but truthfully espousing Social principles that are conservative in nature. He snatches their ear with his foreign policy ideas that are a screwing mix of Isolationism and Hawkism get it done decisively if you are going in, and then get out.
Report Post »I must say that Paul’s foreign policy is rather perfect IF it was our policy all the time every time, but sadly it is a bastardized abomination of degradation from Carter/Clinton/obama appeasement policies that blunt the edge of the sword and makes it all so laughable and insincere. If our foreign policy were credible then Paul would be fine. We have liberals to blame that it is not. A pretty good illustration of how and why Carter/Clinton/Obama appeasement is so so dangerous! We would not have to discuss foreign policy in this context without the appeasers who literally stand in the way of World peace by refusing to engage those who vow to destroy us. Paul is both before, and after his time on foreign policy because we keep electing fools where foreign policy is concerned.
bbyrdhouse
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:16pm@JLGUNNER
Well said, … for the things I disagree with Ron Paul on, none of them will have a drastic long term effect on this nation.
4 years of Ron Paul does not make it any easier or harder for Iran to develop a nuke.
4 years of Ron Paul does not make us all that un friendly to Israel (I could argue that it would make us more friendly to them by letting them enjoy liberty without having to check with America for everything)
4 years of Ron Paul doesn’t hurt us … it ONLY helps us.
4 years of Newt = greater debt, more lost liberty, further away from The Constitution, and more Federal Government
4 years of Romney = greater debt, more lost liberty, further away from The Constitution, and more Federal Government
4 Years of Bachmann = a small move back in the direction of where we were around 2005 (Bush era)
4 Years of Santorum = Would be ok, but we’d likely be just as in debt as we are now
4 years of Ron Paul = Closer toThe Constitution
4 years of Ron Paul = much, much smaller debt
4 years of Ron Paul = more individual liberty
4 years of Ron Paul = less Federal Government
I started off as much against Ron Paul as I could be, but the more I studied him and where he actually stood the more I am convinced that our country needs an old fart who is hell-bent on following the Constitution.
Report Post »dshevlin
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:47pmYou are confused. Please read my post above! Paul should be supporting Michelle as the front runner. He is not the one. READ MY POST. USE YOUR BRAINs.
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