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Bachmann Iowa Chair Defects to Ron Paul…Hours After Appearing With Her at Campaign Stop

Michele Bachmann Iowa Chair Kent Sorenson Defects to Ron Paul

AP

INDIANOLA, Iowa (The Blaze/AP) — Michele Bachmann‘s struggling presidential campaign saw her Iowa chairman defect Wednesday to rival Ron Paul’s side, an embarrassing blow that came as some called for her to leave the race to free up her supporters for other candidates.

Hours after appearing with Bachmann at an event, state Sen. Kent Sorenson gave his endorsement to the Texas congressman at a Des Moines rally. Sorenson said he resigned from Bachmann’s campaign to back Paul, whom he called the most conservative of the top-tier candidates.

In a harsh statement, Bachmann said Sorenson made the jump after “he was offered a large sum of money to go to work for the Paul campaign.”

“Kent said to me yesterday that `everyone sells out in Iowa, why shouldn’t I,’” she said in a written statement. “Then he told me he would stay with our campaign. The Ron Paul campaign has to answer for its actions.”

Sorenson announced the switch during a Paul veterans rally in Des Moines. He didn‘t immediately return a phone call from The Associated Press to address Bachmann’s charges that the move was financially based.

 

(via O. Kay Henderson)

“The fact is, there is a clear top tier in the race for the Republican nomination for president, both here in Iowa and nationally. Ron Paul is easily the most conservative of this group,” Sorenson said in a statement. “The truth is, it was an excruciatingly difficult decision for me to decide between supporting Michele Bachmann and Ron Paul at the beginning of this campaign.”

Bachmann has been on a frantic 99-county push across Iowa in an effort to recover from the slide that followed her Iowa straw poll victory in August. Paul was a close second in that contest.

Earlier in the day, two influential pastors said they wanted either her or former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum to drop out of the running to keep evangelical voters from splitting their support. Bachmann insisted she would see the Iowa caucus campaign through.

Sorenson, who has strong ties to Iowa’s tea party, was one of Bachmann’s earliest public supporters and joined her for an afternoon stop at a Pizza Ranch restaurant in Indianola. Standing by her side, he declined to speak to the crowd there, citing numbness from dental work.

He announced his switch to Paul at the rally just hours later.

Michele Bachmann Iowa Chair Kent Sorenson Defects to Ron Paul

AP

“When the Republican establishment is going to be coming against him [Paul] over the next few days, I thought it is my duty to come to his aid,” Sorenson told the crowd.

According to the Des Moines Register, Sorenson said he didn’t make the final decision to switch camps until Wednesday evening.

He told the newspaper he drove to Paul’s 7 p.m. event, called a Paul staffer and asked, “Do you guys want me on board?”

“[The staffer] walked out to the parking lot and then I walked in with him,” Sorenson said.

State Sen. Brad Zaun, who had been Bachmann’s Iowa co-chairman, was named full chairman after Sorenson’s resignation.

Comments (452)

  • HumbleCitizen
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:28am

    I support RP but accepting this guy without a waiting period to vet him and his intentions was just bad form. If he really wanted to join Rp’s camp, it could have waited a few days. Who knows, maybe he’s a spy?

    If the guy is just a bandwagon jumper, joining whomever he feels is the top dog atm, then Bachmann really isn’t losing much and his defection may be a blessing in disguise for her.

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    • 1casawizard
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:40am

      Good analyzing humblecitizen, it shows you gotta sharp mind. We’ll see later about the the answers to you questions.

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    • c0mm0nsense
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:44am

      Bachmann just never got the donations from supporters or the volunteers she needed to run a top notch campaign. If you agree with her or not, you have to give credit, she worked darn hard in Iowa with very little money and almost no ground support. If only she would have had Romney’s money she could of bought her people on the ground.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 1:18am

      ( maybe he’s a spy?) That’s funny!!!!!! Thanks for the laugh. What in the world would he be spying on? Paul’s next campaign stop? Maybe he is part of the NWO or the CIA. I bet he was at a bilderberg meeting….Here is your tin foil hat.
      Drugged out Kooks

      RepubliCorp  
    • FormerLib
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 1:28am

      I was a Bachmann supporter early on, but she gradually turned me off. I watched her tonight being interviewed ion the Hannity show to giver her another look and she could not or would not answer a straight question, choosing instead to doggedly stick to her incessant talking points. t;s not thast she isn’t smart, or qualified, or wouldn’t make a good leader. It’s that she was truly annoying and has a real likability problem. It’s sad that her handlers are so poor in advising her, and sadder still that she doesn’t see the difference between confidence and just blurting out platitudes and polemics regardless of what the question is. If she would portray herself as more of a ‘regular’ person, she’d go a lot farther.

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    • 1casawizard
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 1:59am

      @ formerlib. You’re still a screaming lib. nice try.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 2:09am

      Bachmann supporters I hope you take the time to think about one thing: a lot of Bachmann supporters like Michelle for her “Pro-Israel” stance so I must ask you how is Michelle Pro-Israel when she supports sending our tax dollars to Muslim tyrant Nations who hate Israel? 

      If we are to bless Israel to be blessed and cursed if we curse Israel than Michelle aiding Israel’s enemies would put us on the curse side. 

      Michelle is for aid to Muslim countries who hate Israel.
      Michelle is for selling weapons to Muslim Nation who hate Israel
      Michelle is for intervening and defending Muslim Nations who hate Israel.

      Michelle is not being honest when she says she is pro-Israel because Michelle is for helping Israel’s enemies. 

      Same goes for Rick Santorum, they are two hypocritical peas in a pod. 

      Ron Paul will end aid, stop defending, and stop arming Muslim Nations who hate Israel. Ron Paul would allow Israel to whip the snot out her enemies and not hold Israel back. Ron Paul would be Israel’s best friend. 

      I hope all Rick Santorum or Michelle Bachmann supporters really think about that, especially if you truly support Israel and our Jewish friends. Any candidate helping the enemy of Israel is not Israel’s friend and are not blessing Israel, period. 

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    • Shane74
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 2:44am

      Hey Republicorps, do you remember when all of the media denied that the Bilderberg group even existed?

      And more importantly, why are you here on a Glenn Beck site, if you don’t believe that there is a new world being crafted around us?

      Or are you just one of the idiots who accepts everything they’re told, even when those feeding them their information have a history of being horribly, horribly wrong?

      Here, again, is Paul in 2002. Note that we’ve crossed almost each of those predictions, and are on the brink of the ones not mentioned. I’m with the people who have history on their side, even when for the longest time, many like myself thought they were nuts.

      Have fun riding the ship to the bottom of the ocean. At least there will be music until the final moments!

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    • THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 2:46am

      @formerlib
      Join us in the Ron Paul revolution..the doors are open.

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 2:58am

      Shane let me ask you this, if the Bilderbergs and the NWO are as powerful and prolific as you suppose, what makes you think RP will ever make it to inauguration day should he win?

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    • bristoltrucker
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 3:11am

      The proper question is, if the Bilderbergers/Illuminati/NWO group is so powerful that they assasinated JFK and got away with it why have they not killed off those who supposedly have been exposing them? The fact that Alex Jones and Ron Paul are still alive is actual evidence that they aren’t telling the truth about the supposed conspiracy.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 3:47am

      BRISTOLTRUCKER it wouldn’t be hard to make it look like a heart attack when you are ninety…. watch out Paul the CIA has you in their sights and they are pissed ….. Paul must be a hero to brave this for the good of the country. I would really miss his newsletter…..

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    • Shane74
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 3:52am

      So the argument becomes, if it’s all true, then why go with the person you believe is going to try to fight against it? Is that how we’ll try to twist this?

      Did the partial audit of the FED happen? Did they in fact print and distribute 16 trillion dollars, about 6 of which they gave to foreign banks?

      We KNOW they did.

      And best of all, look to see if FOX reported it. And if they did, why aren’t they still screaming about it?

      Did any of the news media tell you about the National Defense Authorization Act BEFORE it was passed? Why was it AFTER it passed? It‘s not like it wasn’t reported by SOME.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2r1JSR8EC8

      You can be rounded up, just on the allegation that you are involved in terrorism. And best of all? They tried to make it so that EVEN IF YOU WERE PROVEN INNOCENT, YOU WOULD STAY IN PRISON UNTIL THE “END OF THE WAR ON TERROR.”

      So now, when are you all going to wake up? Do you think Judge Napolitano is nuts?

      Rand Paul managed to defeat that nasty little last part, but the fact that they’d even TRY to pass something like that should scare the ever-loving-**** out of you guys.

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    • Shane74
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:01am

      BristolTrucker- So long as they have the media, which is owned by all those corporations that are feeding the corruption, they will be able to convince people who continue to believe their “news”, that people like Ron Paul are nuts.

      Also curious, where is the coverage of the insider trading at the capital hill? 60 minutes had a fantastic expose on it, yet, nobody is talking about it.

      Hey, you ever hear about the vote to audit the FED? Where are the stories about the partial audit of the FED? I never heard about it once on tv. Have you?

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:02am

      No Shane, my question was if the groups in question are so prolific and powerful, what makes you think RP would ever live to see anything he plans implemented? “TPTB” as they have been protrayed would never let that happen.

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    • Shane74
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:12am

      Also, what do you nay-sayers think about what happened to other once “free” nations? Do we not look to the histories of Italy, Russia, and Germany, and see that all of them had similar themes? Do you say to your fellow Americans, “that can’t happen here”? To what do you base that on?

      Has Glenn Beck been lying to you all, trying to warn of what’s coming?

      Here’s something fun for you:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvlUx5ECD2w

      Here‘s Neal Boortz on Ron Paul’s prediction of the housing bubble:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K2ktRZ4T48

      But hey! Just keep believing the people who keep being wrong! It’s cool!

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    • Shane74
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:15am

      http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-26/ron-paul-on-the-housing-bubble-july-2002/

      Congressman Ron Paul
      U.S. House of Representatives
      July 16, 2002

      “Mr. Speaker, I rise to introduce the Free Housing Market Enhancement Act. This legislation restores a free market in housing by repealing special privileges for housing-related government sponsored enterprises (GSEs). These entities are the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie), the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie), and the National Home Loan Bank Board (HLBB). According to the Congressional Budget Office, the housing-related GSEs received $13.6 billion worth of indirect federal subsidies in fiscal year 2000 alone.

      One of the major government privileges granted these GSEs is a line of credit to the United States Treasury. According to some estimates, the line of credit may be worth over $2 billion. This explicit promise by the Treasury to bail out these GSEs in times of economic difficulty helps them attract investors who are willing to settle for lower yields than they would demand in the absence of the subsidy. Thus, the line of credit distorts the allocation of capital. More importantly, the line of credit is a promise on behalf of the government to engage in a massive unconstitutional and immoral income transfer from working Americans to holders of GSE debt.

      The Free Housing Market Enhancement Act also repeals the explicit grant of legal authority given to the Federal Reserve to purchase the

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:16am

      So then, here is your real problem with Paul and all of the conspiracy theories. If what they say is true about the Bilderbergers, the Illuminati, the Bohemian Grove, the Masons, the Trilateral commission etc., what is the point of voting for Paul? These powerful groups will never let him do what he is proposing to do. So you will be back to square one but actually worse off because now they will make sure a “Ron Paul” wanna be will never happen again and you will be sitting there without a restoration of liberty and down one person who you think has it right.

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    • Shane74
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:17am

      Axel, your entire basis of thought is wrong. They don’t HAVE to worry about RP, they believe, because currently, they believe, he is no threat to them. When he, or the masses, DO become a threat, is when the mask peels off.

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:25am

      So Shane back to the original question. If he was elected what makes you think that he would ever live to see the implementation of his ideas? He would be the most powerful political leader in the free world, and he wouldn’t be a threat?

      Supposedly according to Jones and others, the gov has been going to the extremes of spiking the water with fluoride, the flu shots with all sorts of things in an effort to control the population, even so far as putting poision in the exhaust of commercial airliners. Why, because they see Joe Farmer as a threat, but not Ron Paul as President?

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    • Shane74
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:28am

      Axel, the idea is to trick you into thinking there is a threat that you need to be protected from. Then they allow you to believe that the harsh crack downs will be justified to you.

      Again, why is it that you don’t answer this: Why did the media spend decades telling us that Bilderberg isn’t real. Yet after it was exposed, now presents it as “nothing” to pay attention to? Ever see what happens to the towns that they go to? The white sheets? None of this means anything at all to you?

      See, you keep insisting that I think they have all this “power”. All I insist is, that they are a group of the mega rich, the George Soroses of the world, and their ilk, that get together to manipulate world markets. Their “power”, is their ability to get richer, and keep slowly shutting the door on those at the bottom.

      That, is power.

      But hey, nobody in this world is manipulating currencies, or managing the declines of markets. Nope. Look the other way.

      PS- The FED isn’t really a private organization that charges us ten percent for ever dollar they “create”.

      And Woodrow Wilson never said this, after allowing the FED’s creation:
      ” I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled

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    • Shane74
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:29am

      I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.
      ~ Woodrow Wilson

      Nope. Never happened.

      And the President “picks” the head of the FED! ;)

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:33am

      Shane, exactly where did I say that I dismiss any of what you say? I am simply asking that if that is what you believe, what makes you think that RP will ever get the opportunity to do what he is saying? They will destroy him first.

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    • Shane74
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:36am

      Axel, let’s say that he was elected and murdered. Would that be enough for you to get it? Because maybe that’s what it will take for some of you.

      As for why he should be in charge? He has a record, and with the POTUS now having the power to detain people, alleged to be terrorists, can disappear.

      I ask you one more time: Do you believe Glenn Beck? Do you believe that there have been people working against the cause of freedom, for a long time?

      I‘ll point out that you haven’t really responded to anything I’ve noted. Just the same circular questions of “well what if Ron Paul”…

      So I’m pretty much done wasting my energy here.

      People have to make up their mind: Do they believe the media line their being fed about the world, or do they believe that there is a mass manipulation of these events? A crisis created. And you know, you can’t let a good crisis pass!

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:43am

      Still never answered the question. Yes, I believe Beck when he says “Know what you believe”. You do not. I was a libertarian before you were born, and probably voted for Paul before you were born. The party has really gone down hill.

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    • KTsayz
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 5:00am

      The pravda blaze does it again.
      According to the Daily Caller:
      “Kent Sorenson, an Iowa state senator, walked onto the stage at a Paul event and told an adoring crowd that he was throwing his weight behind the candidate who supported him during his own senate race.”
      http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/28/bachmann-iowa-chair-ron-paul-is-most-conservative-top-tier-candidate/
      So Paul supported him and he knows Bachmann is going nowhere so decides to support the only conservative in the race. He could have just as easily switched to RINO Mitt – who has TONS more money than anyone but Barry. So I don‘t think it’s a money thing.
      Shame on you blaze. And for the record, you‘re guilty of ’lying by ommission’.

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 5:04am

      P.S. If you had answered the ONE question I asked, I would have answered your multiple questions because until that one is answered if you believe in the Trilateral Commission, Bilderberger, etc. all of your other questions are pointless.

      It is called logic. If Paul gets elected and then never makes it into office, all of his promises go down with him. So until you can tell me how a man with ideas like Paul‘s will live long enough to make changes in office with the NWO thugs floating around in the halls of the CIA it doesn’t make a lot of sense to vote for him just so we can end up back where we started.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 5:06am

      URSAMAJOR is not a Ron Paul supporter. Look at his last 10 posts by clicking his name. He is posting that non sense to discredit Ron Paul. 

      Ron Paul supporters report URSAMAJOR

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    • Babeuf
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 5:26am

      “who hate Israel” “who hate Israel” “who hate Israel”
      “who hate Israel” “who hate Israel”

      Give it a rest! So does Wrong Paul. What is this reverse Psychology?

      The Founding Fathers were not Liberatrians – they were Conservatives!

      The “Libetarians” are not Conservatives – They are Neoliberals

      Ron Paul and the Neoliberal Reeducation Campaign

      http://spectator.org/archives/2011/08/23/ron-paul-and-the-neoliberal-re

      Not for those with short attention spans,stoned on heroin or doin the local prostitute!

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    • louise
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 5:30am

      Axel, you said,

      So Shane back to the original question. If he was elected what makes you think that he would ever live to see the implementation of his ideas? He would be the most powerful political leader in the free world, and he wouldn’t be a threat?

      Because it is his (Ron Paul’s) message of Liberty that resonates in the hearts of people everywhere. They know that if Ron Paul was assassinated the light of investigation would shine first on them. They also know that everyone knows about them and that they and their organizations are not considered to be conspiracy theories any longer.

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    • Cat
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 5:40am

      Interesting reading for those Ron Paul supporters who can read + inderstand:
      http://larouchepac.com/

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 5:41am

      Thanks Louise. See Shane, not that hard, I just wanted you to think it through like you keep telling everyone else to do.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 5:49am

      @BabeUF

      The truth makes you miserable at first, remember? 

      I understand you are frustrated at realizing that Michelle Bachmann and Rick Santorum support sending tax dollars to Muslim tyrants that hate Israel. That you are frustrated that Michelle and Rick support arming Muslim tyrants who hate Israel And Michelle and Rick support defending Muslim Nations that hate Israel. 

      It is still the truth. If it is not please show what is not. You cannot because it is true. 

      Our Founders were Libertarians, true Conservatives, because Conservatives were last to intervene, thus CONSERVE being the root of the word. Libertarians are just that, last to intervene over what a person can/can’t do. Progressives have changed that over time. Progressives have slowly took out the heart and soul of conservatism, Libertarianism, and replaced it with Progressive policies, intervention domestically and foreign. 

      I wish you well in you misery of facing truth. Remember, after misery comes freedom. Truth-If you support Muslim tyrants you support Israel’s enemies. 

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    • burnteye86
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 6:03am

      Is there no loyalty, to anyone, anymore?

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 6:10am

      Babuf,
      Interesting article. In some respects they are correct. Libertarians tend to be socially liberal such as “why should I care who you do it with as long as you are not doing it in the streets in front of kids.” (although there are quite a few who would argue that pedophilia is not specifically against the constitution either) The libertarian stance on drug use, prostitution and homosexuality is in step with typically liberal views and thus the attraction of many liberals to the party (they find out the hard way that the “smaller government” part of Libertarianism throws a monkey wrench into their progressive political ideologies).

      Libertarians though open minded (though seeing much less of that from current self proclaimed “libertarians” these days) do tend to be fiscally conservative and staunchly for limited government which necessitates due to consistency issues, social liberalism.

      Conservatism in modern America, as most people see it is being both socially and fiscally conservative, and given our history as a Nation founded on Judeo-Christian philosophies (not necessarily a religion, but its philosophies such as murder is wrong) to say that you are “conservative” necessitates both a social and fiscal conservativeism, otherwise you are going in only “halfsies” so I see the point of the article.

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 6:14am

      Burnteye,
      Nope, it is all about them. That is why regardless of who gets in the WH we are in for a heap of hurt regardless of what their political leanings, because it isn’t just the US it is global and we are all tied together to the mast of a sinking ship.

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    • Jeff65
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 6:19am

      @AxelPhantom That question about why the various “powers” would let Ron Paul do anything, is a good question that deserves an answer. This is something my brother an I were discussing during my son’s birthday dinner. He is somewhat in the thick of the so called “elite” financial type people and is a heavy researcher.

      His conclusion is what I was thinking. The only protection that Ron Paul has is the us . . . the people . . . the re3VOLution. It is the movement that is sweaping in behind him that is more important than Ron Paul himself. Ron Paul has admitted this many times . . . “and I consider myself to be fortunate to be apart of it”.

      We need to put in place congressman with the same thinking and Senators. Sherrif Mack and his Oath Keepers movement will also play a big part. And much more that I can’t even think of right now. The new media is another part.

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 6:33am

      Jeff thanks, to you as well. It still is just not adding up for me. Not sure I am ready to go all the way down the rabbit hole with the whole Trilateral commission but my research into the Club of Rome and their literature, does raise many questions that cannot be easily dismissed. Unfortunately I cannot vote for Paul again, and I have my reasons, long and torrid, but I don’t like the leftovers either.

      In part, I just don’t think that anyone who we elect will be allowed make a difference, if they go off the reservation they will be whacked.

      Did you notice a change in Obama after his “briefing-debriefing” with Bush? He went in one way and came out another, there was something he saw or was told, that subtly changed his demeanor. Not saying he had a brain implant or anything but someone telling me,”the Secret Service and CIA know where you and your family are at all times, your fate and that of your family is in their hands” would creep me out a bit.

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 6:33am

      Shameful of him, and even MORE shameful of Ron Paul !

      You SHOULD NOT TRUST someone who would defect like this… PERIOD.
      (And I highly doubt that Ron Paul ever WILL trust this guy – stay tuned for his dismissal)

      Which means Ron Paul BOUGHT a blow against the Bachmann campaign by hiring away its IA leader. BUYING another candidate into submission is just SHAMEFUL !
      America needs LEADERSHIP, not more SLIMY POLITICAL MANEUVERING !
      (let alone ones that use MONEY – OUR MONEY – to do that SLIMY POLITICAL MANEUVERING !)

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 6:35am

      @Axel

      Isn’t it more conservative not to intervene with Government than to intervene with Government on any issue? 

      If Total Government is far left and anarchy is far right the more intervention by Government the more Liberal one is and the less intervention by Government the more conservative? 

      So technically Libertarian Constitutionalists are the most Conservative because they are least likely to intervene with Government, least likely to change, and are traditional. 

      It seems Conservative has changed to mean more Government telling us what to do and that is LEFT and progressed past the Constitution. 

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    • louise
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 6:38am

      He is not a ‘spy’. He just wants to be associated with and supportive of the only man who has the Constitutional solution for our country…Ron Paul!

      Humble I just watched a clip of Doug Wead talking about Ron Paul (from yesterday, 12/28/11) I think you might like it.
      Happy New Year!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IasdHdZ5YjA#!

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 6:55am

      Tom

      Did you notice the guy said he wasn’t bought out or does that bit of truth matter? 

      He left Bachmann because she had low support in Iowa at her events and decided to back his next pick, Ron Paul. That is how it works in election primaries and caucuses. 

      Have a great day! 

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 6:57am

      I look at it this way: if everyone in the media has been shunning Ron Paul, and all the candidates have ganged up on Ron Paul, then he must be the one for the job?

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 7:01am

      Since every President seems to fall away a little (and sometimes a lot) bit from campaign promises, then I don’t believe for even a Milli-second that Ron Paul won’t defend the people of the U.S.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 7:04am

      OKIE FROM MUSKOGEE (be honest)
      URSAMAJOR sounds just like a Paul newsletter to me:
      The Paul newsletters display an obsession with Israel; no other country is mentioned more often in the editions I saw, or with more vitriol. A 1987 issue of Paul’s Investment Letter called Israel “an aggressive, national socialist state,“ and a 1990 newsletter discussed the ”tens of thousands of well-placed friends of Israel in all countries who are willing to wok [sic] for the Mossad in their area of expertise.” Of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, a newsletter said, “Whether it was a setup by the Israeli Mossad, as a Jewish friend of mine suspects, or was truly a retaliation by the Islamic fundamentalists, matters little.”

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 7:06am

      But of course, now the media will follow Ron Paul closely because they will decide he is surging because the media has ignored Ron Paul.

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 7:09am

      This jump illustrates that Sorenson has been living a lie and has fooled many people. You don’t just turn off being a Constitutional Conservative Christian and jump to Ron Paul with a straight face. Hopefully the Iowa Tea Party will kick him out as a matter of principle, not that it will phase him, and don’t trust him with your wife or your money.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 7:22am

      grandmaof5,
      Except that sometimes supporters get close to candidates just to find out that they don’t like them after-all.

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    • BeHeardAmerica
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 7:25am

      We all know how crazy people can sometime make sense.. that’s Ron Paul. As for the defector well.. he can’t defect.. HE’s FIRED!

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 7:30am

      SHANE74
      “Or are you just one of the idiots who accepts everything they’re told, even when those feeding them their information have a history of being horribly, horribly wrong?” I must be an idiot

      Here is some good advice from the Paul newsletter: How to kill a black person and get away with it
      It is the hip-hop thing to do among the urban youth who play unsuspecting whites like pianos. The youth simply walk up to a car they like, pull a gun, tell their family to get out, steal their jewelry and wallets, and take the car to wreck. Such actions have ballooned in the recent months.
      In the old days, average people could avoid such youth by staying out of bad neighborhoods. Empowered by the media, police, and political complicity, however, the youth now roam everywhere looking for cars to steal and people to rob.

      More and more Americans are carrying a gun in the car. An ex-cop I know advises that if you have to use a gun on a youth, you should leave the scene immediately, disposing of the wiped off gun as soon as possible. Such a gun cannot, of course, be registered to you

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 7:30am

      I’m always honest but I cannot say the same for you. 

      You must have never talked to an operative from the agency. Believe as you wish. 

      I have no respect for you Republicorp. You do not have honor or integrity to show support for anyone and only come spewing hatred. 

      USRAMajor posted many posts in opposition to Ron Paul. Then turns around and posts non sense to try and make Ron Paul look bad. The Blaze will get him. 

      Republicorp you can continue trying to post all the negative twisted crap about Ron Paul you like. At least be man enough to accept the facts when shoved in your face time and time again. Unfortunately you don‘t and won’t and will continue to try to smear Ron Paul simply because you are a hater who stands for nothing. 

      Truth is Ron Paul will stop arming Muslim Nations who hate Israel
      Ron Paul will stop aiding Muslim nations who hate Israel
      Ron Paul will stop defending Muslim nations who hate Israel
      Ron Paul will stop telling Israelmwhat they can/can’t do

      All the others will support these Muslim tyrants who hate Israel. 

      That’s honesty. 

      Take care. 

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 7:46am

      OKIE FROM MUSKOGEE So are you saying I wrote 10yrs of racist newsletters? No……that would be Paul. And by the way you are not showing a lot of love for me…….dripping hate I would say. Why don’t just debunk me?

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 8:01am

      Ron Paul came out explained the letters and that he did not write them. That debunks it. He says he disavows the letters. That debunks it. Ron Paul’s record fighting for all debunks it. 

      Ron Paul ending aid to Muslim tyrants who hate Israel debunks it. 
      Ron Paul ending defense of Muslim tyrants who hate Israel debunks it.
      Ron Paul ending arming Muslim Nations who hate Israel debunks it. 

      Debunks Ron Paul is racist or hates blacks:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3EADdr-5AY&feature=related

      No hatred, just no respect because you are shown truth and you continue to use the same material that was debunked. You have no honor or integrity. 

      Just like your post over Ron Paul doing his job to earmark money and than voting no against increased spending. You are not a honest person looking for solutions. You are one who comes to manipulate because you have no honor or integrity and stand for nothing. 

      Tell us who you support if you stand for something. Tell us how Michelle, Santorum, Newt, or Romney aren’t anti-Semitic by supporting Muslim Nations who hate Israel. If they support Muslim Nations who hate Israel they are against Israel right? Yes. If you are against Israel you are anti-Semetic, right? Yes. Are you anti-Semitic Republicorp? 

      Take care because I know you do not have the integrity or honor to say who you support. 

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 8:07am

      I never heard of this guy until after his defection. I joined Bachmann’s Pizza Ranch stop in Iowa a couple of weeks ago live, via phone. I was shocked to hear her say “Did you see what I did to Ron Paul in the last debate? I’m going to do that to him in the election.”

      Imagine my shock. I had THREE newspaper references that Bachmann’s debate facts were INCORRECT — that man stood there and heard her lie against Ron Paul — it’s pretty shocking. No wonder he left. I would have too.

      Folk PLEASE RESEARCH the candidates. When we just listen, sometimes we’re not smart enough to realize WE BEING LIED TO.

      Bachmann made a serious accusation when she said he was paid/bribed. Hope she has facts to back that statement. If not, she’s in trouble.

      Her ex-campaign chairmain said “The truth is, it was an excruciatingly difficult decision for me to decide between supporting Michele Bachmann and Ron Paul at the beginning of this campaign. Dr. Paul and his supporters were a major help in my successful campaigns for Iowa House and Senate even when I couldn’t count on the support of the Republican establishment here in Iowa.”

      and Bachmann responds with HE WAS BRIBED….there’s going to be more to this story.

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    • RockinChuck
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 8:10am

      Ron Paul is VERY WEAK on foreign policy. The USA would be the like the country we were before WII. His vision of national security scares the hell out of me. That is my opinion.

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    • G.W. Dobbs
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 8:16am

      Hey, Sorenson is a TYPICAL American politician: GO FOR THE MONEY regardless of pricipal or principle. I support RON PAUL but I abhor lying turncoats like this piece of feces.

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    • AhLeahIris
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 8:17am

      This guy isn’t the only thing to abandon Michele Bachmann: http://wp.me/p1HGwx-1Oy

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    • randerson503
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:08am

      No spy is needed to know that Ron Paul is a kook. I’ve seen some say that he is the most conservative of the group. Really? On economic and regulatory issues, I would agree with that statement. On defense, he is very far left.

      He bases his “world police” theory on “blowback.” This basically means that our own actions have sometimes had negative unintended consequences. That does not mean that you do not engage in global affairs. I would ask Dr. Paul what would’ve been the blowback of inaction? What would‘ve happened if we didn’t arm the Afghans against Soviet Russia? Or if we hadn’t sided with Saddam, or partnered with Stalin against the Nazi’s? After fighting two world wars, it became very difficult to ignore the rest of the world. We had already tried ignoring Hitler and the Axis powers. That did not go so well. Had we engaged earlier, WWII may not have been as bloody of a mess. That said, what will be the blowback of allowing Iran to obtain a Nuke given all we know about that regime? Will they launch against Israel or even the US? Or are they all just big balls of blustery hot gas that will only use a nuke as a defensive deterrent? No one truly knows the answer to that, but given their rhetoric, their 12er ideology, and their embracing of martyrdom, the scale tips heavily to the side that it would be used offensively against the little satan first and then the great satan. How do you ignore that threat?

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    • nichevo
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:13am

      Michelle Bachmann is my Rep in MN and I must say the country will not be losing anything when she drops out of the race next Wednesday. She is paranoid and plays fast and loose with the facts much to often to be considered Presidential material.

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:18am

      OKIE, let me, please, just make this observation: Obama’s czars, advisors, union thugs have written many regulations, healthcare bills, and the list goes on; even if Obama didn’t know what was written, the buck stops at the top, and he is ultimately responsible. For Ron Paul to pass the blame down the ladder is no different than Obama, and that hasn’t worked out well for this country the last three years. If the ‘blame game’ has already started we are in deep trouble with a candidate without integrity and honesty.

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    • Wolf
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:19am

      Too complicated a scenario, Humble- the most simple answer is usually the right answer, and that is that the GOP is sharing the wealth by buying out key supporters. Money talks, Sorenson walks.

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    • LookTowardsTheLight
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:19am

      @HumbleCitizen

      “I support RP but accepting this guy without a waiting period to vet him and his intentions was just bad form.”

      You lost me at “I Support RP”. In fact, most sane people would have stopped reading after those three words and moved onto the next comment.

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:33am

      RepubliCorp
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 3:47am

      BRISTOLTRUCKER it wouldn’t be hard to make it look like a heart attack when you are ninety…
      ==============================================

      How would YOU know that??….

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:48am

      randerson503
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:08am

      No spy is needed to know that Ron Paul is a kook. I’ve seen some say that he is the most conservative of the group. Really? On economic and regulatory issues, I would agree with that statement. On defense, he is very far left.

      He bases his “world police” theory on “blowback.” This basically means that our own actions have sometimes had negative unintended consequences. That does not mean that you do not engage in global affairs. I would ask Dr. Paul what would’ve been the blowback of inaction? What would‘ve happened if we didn’t arm the Afghans against Soviet Russia?
      ==================================================

      Conversely, what would have happened if the Soviet Union hadn’t invaded and occupied Hungary, Romania, Poland, Czechoslovakia, etc. (as well as Afghanistan of course)?

      …….and what would have happened if the Soviets hadn’t intervened by installing the Berlin Wall?

      Of course, we all know that the Soviets had to attack and invade other countries…..because if they hadn’t done so beforehand, then somebody from Poland or Czechoslovakia would have attacked them.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:02am

      It is illegal for an Iowa State Senator to receive money for endorsements. As a surrogate Iowan, Michele knows that fact. Her statement is accusing this man of a felony. Anyway, she is known as a bald faced liar who says anything she feels will advance her position, and she has a 400% turnover in staff this year because she is widely reported to be a horrible boss.

      TEA

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:12am

      Hey FormerLib,
      Did she mention that she’s a tax attorney and had 27 foster kids? LOL I’m sick of hearing it every time she has a microphone in front of her. It’ all well and good but, it’s not a presidential qualifier.

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:28am

      Shane74
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:01am
      BristolTrucker- So long as they have the media, which is owned by all those corporations that are feeding the corruption, they will be able to convince people who continue to believe their “news”, that people like Ron Paul are nuts.

      Great post. I’d probably go a step further and name the names of the CEOs, Presidents, and VPs of the Corporations in order to provide a little more insight.. Not but 7-8 of them. Easy to do. Anyway Media bias and corruption are the biggest issues of our time but people refuse to see the extent of the problem. The elections of Bill Clinton and Obama could never happen with a fair and unbiaed Media. Not in 10 thousand years. Although America is changing and changin fast. We are in big trouble.

      As far as Bachmann goes. I like her and think that she is very sincere and intelligent; however, she is sincerely wrong on the Middle East and America’s role in foreign affairs especially while we are in debt up to our eye balls.. Really debt has nothing to do with it. The position is wrong on principal and the debt just exacerbates the problem.

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:33am

      The guy, with his lack of loyalty, will make a swell Paul supporter. After this back stabbing, it should be easy for him to convince other Paulistinains to vote third party and re-elect BO.

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    • JRook
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:54am

      As they say its the people closest to someone that really knows them. Not a surprising revelation about Bachmann’s lack of leadership and viability as a candidate. She should really consider doing something in her current job, although I still can’t imagine how she got that one.

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    • TheWholeTruth
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:59am

      Bachmann voted for the Patriot Act AND for the NDAA…’nough said

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:04am

      Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 5:06am
      URSAMAJOR is not a Ron Paul supporter. Look at his last 10 posts by clicking his name. He is posting that non sense to discredit Ron Paul.

      Ron Paul supporters report URSAMAJOR

      ****************************************************
      You caught him and I was about to report him as well but fear not! There are some things the Blaze and Media in general do not want posted or better yet examined. While it’s easy to see the harm that such statements pose for Dr. Paul’s campaign, I have a little trouble denying the truth behind them…

      You don’t even have to respond but the truth is Dr. Paul or anyone that opposes the Establishment‘s agenda has very little chance as long as the Media remains in the Establishment’s hands so we are really back to the question of the day and that is in my opinion just who is this Establishmet and what is their agenda..

      Eventually we will have to get to the “root” of the problem however upleasant that may be.

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:06am

      TheWholeTruth
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:59am
      Bachmann voted for the Patriot Act AND for the NDAA…’nough said

      Great post. I’ve not heard the first one of these Obama light, Progressive, Neo-Cons explain the potential danger to the Republic which these “Acts” pose to the Nation. It’s Disgusting!

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    • FormerLib
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:28am

      [1CASAWIZARD
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 1:59am
      @ formerlib. You’re still a screaming lib. nice try.]

      Um….so, anyone who thinks Michelle Bachmann might not be the best bet at running a campaign is a “screaming lib?” What are you, 12?

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    • FormerLib
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:34am

      [ELIASIM
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 7:01am
      Since every President seems to fall away a little (and sometimes a lot) bit from campaign promises, then I don’t believe for even a Milli-second that Ron Paul won’t defend the people of the U.S.]

      Wait….so, you’re counting on Ron Paul lying and not meaning what he is saying now as a means of recommending him for POTUS? “Vote Ron Paul….He doesn‘t really mean what he’s saying!” Now, that’s quite a campaign slogan.

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    • getridofobama2012
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:47am

      Ron Paul is a nut case and will NEVER be nominated.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:49am

      Blaze left this part out of the story: Bachmann aid said she lied!

      ” Bachmann Key Aide’s Statement on Sen. Kent Sorenson Defection

      Bachmann Iowa political director Wes Enos fires back at Mrs. Bachmann’s claim that Sen. Sorenson’s desertion was financially-motivated

      ANKENY, Iowa – U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann’s Iowa political director Wes Enos recently made enlightening comments concerning Iowa State Sen. Kent Sorenson’s defection to the Ron Paul camp from his position as Iowa Chairman for the Minnesota congresswoman’s campaign for the presidency.

      Hours ago, Sen. Sorenson resigned from his post with the Bachmann camp and publicly endorsed Ron Paul for the presidency, committing to get out the vote for the 12-term Congressman from Texas in the pivotal first-in-nation voting contest.

      Mr. Enos made his comments in response to unfounded allegations that Sen. Sorenson’s defection was made due to financial incentives made by the Ron Paul 2012 Presidential campaign. Mr. Enos’s comments on the matter follow, and are presented in full:

      “I won’t say much about the situation or the conflicting statements beyond this; I can say unequivocally that Kent Sorenson’s decision was, in no way financially motivated. His decision had more to do with the fact that the Ron Paul supporters have been something of a family to him since he was first elected in 2008 and here in the end, as it becomes (continued) http://ww

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    • recoveringneocon
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:49am

      Thanks to h8_liberals I encourage EVERYONE to check this out……

      it is a report that came out in 2004 categorizing every person who served or is still serving congress from 1937-2002. It was 3,320 people listed from most liberal to most conservative… RON PAUL came in at #3,320 as MOST CONSERVATIVE

      http://voteview.com/is_john_kerry_a_liberal.htm

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:53am

      Here’s the link where a Bachmann aid said the “money bribe” was a lie:

      http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/12/29/in-case-you-missed-it-bachmann-key-aide%E2%80%99s-statement-on-sen-kent-sorenson-defection/

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:12pm

      This guy simply saw that Bachmann is a Tea Party Perpetrator who voted for the Liberty-stomping, Rights-trampling Patriot Act Extension.

      Her position on the Patriot Act and neverending war is why she is going to crash and burn.

      Plus she is a religious zealot.

      Ron Paul 2012.

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:47pm

      @Babeuf,

      “The Founding Fathers were not Liberatrians – they were Conservatives!
      “The “Libetarians” are not Conservatives – They are Neoliberals
      “Ron Paul and the Neoliberal Reeducation Campaign
      “http://spectator.org/archives/2011/08/23/ron-paul-and-the-neoliberal-re”

      The link pasted said this:

      Please read the following resources.

      See here.

      Another Big Lincoln Lie Exposed
      http ://lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo211.html

      And here.

      Lord and Levin Welcome Ron Paul to the Top Tier
      http ://www.dailypaul.com/176576/lord-and-levin-welcome-ron-paul-to-the-top-tier

      “If the heart and soul of conservatism is truly libertarianism as Reagan argued, then true libertarians and conservatives would have to criticize Reagan’s presidency.”

      And here.

      War, Ron Paul, and Conservatism
      http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLUoWhWsOWk

      And here.

      Federalist Papers #10
      http ://constitution.org/fed/federa10.htm

      “Liberty is to faction what air is to fire, an aliment without which it instantly expires. But it could not be less folly to abolish liberty, which is essential to political life, because it nourishes faction, than it would be to wish the annihilation of air, which is essential to animal life, because it imparts to fire its destructive agency.”

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 1:15pm

      @@randerson503,

      “We had already tried ignoring Hitler and the Axis powers. That did not go so well. Had we engaged earlier, WWII may not have been as bloody of a mess.”

      We enabled Hitler’s rise to power due to our involvement in WWI.

      See here.

      Rethinking the Good War
      http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance181.html

      “World War I was not our war. In a memo written at the end of World War II, Churchill wrote:

      “This war should never have come unless, under American and modernizing pressure, we had driven the Habsburgs out of Austria and the Hohenzollerns out of Germany. By making these vacuums we gave the opening for the Hitlerite monster to crawl out of its sewer onto the vacant thrones. No doubt these views are very unfashionable.”

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    • Susie
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 2:27pm

      Ron Paul is the most dangerous radicle liberal ever to hit the campaign trail.
      BEWARE – Ron Paul is being backed by far left radicals & anarchists
      A Ron Paul presidency would mean stripping the U.S. of all her defenses, laying her bare to enemy attacks.
      The world needs & is waiting for a strong U.S. to stand up again, under a strong leader and Paul is not that !!!!!!!!

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    • LookTowardsTheLight
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 2:41pm

      @V-MAN MACE

      You have the same delusion as Ron Paul. You both think he would actually win a Presidential election or even be a good leader of my country.

      Excuse me for a second:

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

      Enjoy voting for Ron Paul. You must really like Barack Obama that much.

      Speaking of the Patriot Act. To bad their can’t be a provision to NOT protect dolts like you.

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 3:04pm

      @Susie,

      “A Ron Paul presidency would mean stripping the U.S. of all her defenses, laying her bare to enemy attacks.”

      Not true.

      See here.

      Ron Paul on “Letters of Marque and Reprisal”
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSP9NteApqI

      And here.

      War, Ron Paul, and Conservatism
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLUoWhWsOWk

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    • Jacque
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 3:56pm

      RP has ZERO chance to win election, heck he may not live 4 yrs. If he does then Iran and all the other nations who now hate the USA can with RP’s approval make and use ALL the nukes they want. What biz is it of ours?…RP is from another planet in regards to foreign policy.

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    • Jeff65
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:23pm

      @grandmaof5

      Your concern that Ron Paul take responsibility for the newsletters is a good one, but the fact is that he did take responsibility for them and has said he should have taken better care on what was written. He just doesn’t take responsibility for being a racist or an anti-semite. He agrees he was a bad editor, since he placed his doctor business above the newsletter.

      What more do you want him to do? You want him to admit he is a racist?

      If you think he would make a bad president because he didn’t take his newsletter serious enough and instead put too much time in his medical practice, then that is up to you. I certainly don’t see it that way, but you are entitled to your own opinion.

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    • Faith Matsuoka
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:49pm

      Ron Paul is super extreme in all he believes. He would let the Muslims take over our country, he doesn’t believe in civil marriage, so anything could go in a marriage (and I’m not speaking of homosexuality), he would go back to “gold” which would just not work, he would pull every single soldier out of every single country, he would allow any kind of drugs to be legal, plus, plus, plus. He is unrealistic and dangerous. He certainly is not conservative. He would ruin our country as much as Obama. He is scary, scary, scary!

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 5:42pm

      @Faith Matsuoka,

      “Ron Paul is super extreme in all he believes.”

      This video was tailor made for you. :)

      See here.

      Thought Controllers Call Ron Paul “Extreme”
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FFhSr1A1do

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    • Mr.Truth
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 5:42pm

      I support RP and I feel the same as you!

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    • PoliticiansRCrooks
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 5:48pm

      @ commonsense – You don’t buy people, You win peoples trust. Coward

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    • WAKEUPUSA2012
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 5:51pm

      So we should just sit back and let their be a NWO? Thats like saying “im happy things are getting real bad in the world. That means Jesus is coming soon.” WOW thats a pretty stupid way to think. You dont just sit by and watch this happen.(you do if your a coward I guess) What you do is you fight, even if it is a loosing battel.(wich it is not) We can beat the new world order. And all you people who tell us critical thinkers to wear our tin foil hats, we will be laughing/crying for you when it hits the fan and you are in FEMA camps. The government is getting ready to wage war on the American people. They will try and take our guns away. They are already taking our rights away. (NDAA, unPatriot act etc) So get ready people. The military is trainging for blue force red force aginst the American people.

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    • One Patriot
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 6:56pm

      What a low life….nothing else to vet!

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    • graciebarbosa
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 7:51pm

      Sorenson is a straight shooter. I believe 100% of what he has said in his statement as well as Wes Enos. Both are well known outside of politics in regard to their ethics. I was disappointed when Sorenson supported Bachmann. I am pleased to see him support Ron Paul! Better late than never. Sorenson is well liked and I find it shameful what the Bachmann campaign has tried to paint here. Shows a lot about her campaign if you look into other articles on the matter.

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    • madasblazes
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 8:21pm

      I would not trust him, nor hire him, now.

      Very low form.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:16pm

      LookTowardsTheLight

      I reject your twisted reality and substitute my own. Ron Paul CAN and WILL win this election and WILL be an EXCELLENT president and lead our country to liberty and prosperity.

      In regards to your false sense of security from the government’s intrusion on our liberties with the Patriot Act, make sure you bend over and give two good coughs during your next random TSA VIPR Team secret genital grope-down and strip search in their little secluded room, enjoy walking through that microwave frying all your organs, and make sure your mom, daughter, sister, niece, aunt, kids, etc. wears their clean underwear. Don’t forget not to flinch when those Nazi Thugs and that on-site judge force you to get vaccinated with some cancer-causing cocktail.

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    • old white guy
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 7:23am

      heh, with friends and supporters like this you don’t need enemies.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 7:33am

      LookTowardsTheLight

      I don‘t want the TSA’s protective hands down my pants, thank you very much.

      Ron Paul can and WILL win, just like he’s gonna win Iowa.

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    • TheBigEtrain88
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 10:04am

      Of course,he is.He’s even worse than that, he’s a spineless jerk and liar.His excuses may be fooling many, but not me.Just look at him, the guy likes money more than sticking to his principles and he doesn‘t see what’s right and what’s wrong.Good riddance.Michele officially replaced him.Yes, it’s a shock for her, but not a loss. America’s “Iron lady” will keep fighting no matter what.I need her to stay in the race and our country needs her help desperately now. I don’t expect anything less from her. An amazing woman.Wake up, all you true constitutional conservatives.Such a candidate comes around rather rarely.Less than rarely.To reclaim America’s founding principles-Bachmann 2012.Check out Michele’s website at http://www.michelebachmann.com to see her plans for turning our country around, not upside down, are.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 10:40am

      Rollins: Bachmann stayed clear of attacking Romney in hopes of VP slot

      http://legalinsurrection.com/2011/12…es-of-vp-slot/

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    • nmax
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 10:53am

      I agree…I support Michelle and really believe she could turn America around…Pauls extreme policies like legalizing drugs….after delivering 4000 babies is shocking…he of all people know the devastation drug-using parents have on children…what is he thinking! I wouldn’t be at all surprised if this fellow was a plant from the beginning…to not tell Michelle he was going to make this move before he did is unconscienable…he’s a rat and should be shunned from office… How can one support Michelle and then flip to Paul…even Dick Morris says Paul is more radical and extreme than Obama….sure I like some of his policies…but I‘m quite afraid that it’s like the child molestor offering candy to lure you in and then you‘re gonna get slammed with some pretty bad stuff when you’re not looking! I am afraid he is the flip side of Obama and may very well be another CFR appointee…they do line both sides of the aisle with their people….Given Bill Maher and many other absolute lefltists that “love” Ron Paul I should think you Ron Paul fans should take a better look at who it is you are supporting…I‘m afraid he’s a wolf in sheeps clothing and will take America further over the cliff.

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    • 4freedomssake
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 12:37pm

      @Okie from Muskogee: I have never seen so many lies in on Post. You must be a Ron Paul supporter! It is one of the reasons why I don’t and would never support Ron Paul. The other reason is his far-left loony foreign policy and Drug legalization policy. Oh, and his support form 9/11 Truthers, who are convinced he is one of them. And he can read minds. So, at the same time Ron Paul claims that M “Bachmann hates Muslims”, you claim she supports them! At least get your lies straight!

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on December 30, 2011 at 4:30pm

      “I’m the only one in the race that has won a state wide election.” M. Bachmann

      I guess she doesn’t understand how Governors are elected.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=BRmNJsw5-CY

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    • LookTowardsTheLight
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 11:42pm

      @V Man

      Like I said before, your vote for the mad doctor is going to re-elect your secret love Barack Obama.

      In case you missed it the first time:

      HAHAHAHAHAHALOLOLOLOLOLAHAHAHAROTFLLLOLOOHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!!!

      Before I forget, you bitch and moan about the TSA so I guess you are in favor of terrorist bringing down planes all over the country.

      Hey, to each is own.

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  • John 3:16
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:25am

    So what if the Sorenson wants money over integrity. Zaun is better. He was just so much worthless weight. I’ll vote for someone I can trust Bachmann 2012!!!! No wing nut when I vote.

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:37am

      You know Alex Jones is responsible for your avatar? Maybe you should try following politics. For those who do your comment mixed with your avatar is funny as all hell. But make no mistake I support Alex Jones. He is my boy.

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    • ZengaPA65
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:38am

      First you said Bachmann then you said no wingnut. Make up your mind.

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    • Whirling Dervish
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:49am

      @John 3:16 you copycat, you put Alex’s poster as your icon yet you serve the dark-side.
      Come join in to the light your country needs it your children demand it.

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 1:50am

      “you put Alex’s poster as your icon yet you serve the dark-side.” — but Alex Jones IS the dark side.

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    • Honorific
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 2:32am

      @CHUCK STEIN
      That’s too polite. Alex Jones is a monster, crashing peaceful rallies to personally threaten and yell at Michelle Malkin. “Kill Michelle Malkin!” http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c3b_1285447541
      He’s a crook, he shafted Jack Blood, a co-host of his, he betrayed the Gray family, an ABC shill, he owns none of his radio equipment (stole it from Revolution Radio while the owner was out of town).
      Remember this? http://www.therightscoop.com/hilarious-beck-and-crew-burn-alex-jones-hard/

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    • THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 2:45am

      There is no proof he left for money,he said the truth..“Ron Paul is the most conservative in the top tier”. BESIDES michelle has been telling alot of lies, especially in the debates.

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    • Kaoscontrol
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 3:06am

      Alex Jones has seen Ron Paul’s Hernia and likes it.

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    • UrsaMajor
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:23am

      All this time I’ve been a part of the Tea Party movement, I never realized political prostitution was a Tea Party value.

      Because it is not.

      Ron Paul and Kent Sorenson have PROVEN that they are nothing more than a typical CAREER POLITICIAN John and his Politiocan whoor.

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    • 1776freedomofspeech
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:47am

      Sorenson has no loyalty. He will sellout Paul as well.

      Even my close friend, whom I trusted,
      he who shared my bread,
      has lifted up his heel against me.

      But you, O Lord, have mercy on me;
      raise me up, that I may repay them.
      I know that you are pleased with me,
      for my enemy does not triumph over me.

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    • KTsayz
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 5:07am

      So many foolish responses. Mitt has the money!!! If Sorenson wanted to, he could have gone to Mitt and tried to pull Bachmann supporters with him since Bachmann is going to fade away anyway. Mitt would love to have them.
      We‘ll really see how conservative Bachmann is once she’s out. If she endorses Mitt, then we know she’s NOT a true conservative.

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 10:53am

      Honorific: While Beck’s video is pretty funny, I prefer to deal with facts. If you want to tear down a man that’s fine; that’s your prerogative, but why not take the statements which he has made and take them apart line by line if you can. Last time I looked there were no perfect people in this world and I suspect that includes Alex Jones as well. The man has probably made 10 thousands assertions over his career.. He makes 2 or 3 dozen over and over again. So why not take those assertions or facts and begin to tear them down or debate them?

      Once again the little parody was funny but this is one thing I don’t like about Beck. It’s ok to be funny but be prepared to bring a little intellectual honesty to the table after the laughing has stopped. Furthermore, many of these radio guys have accused Beck of stealing their material and I believe they have a strong case.

      Bring your facts and let’s have a debate? lol

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 3:07pm

      This guy says Michelle Bachmann is lying “about the money” as well.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnZhTEa5thI

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  • KidCharlemagne
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:25am

    Obviously there are two sides to every story (besides the one that Ms. Bachmann is telling):

    ——————————————————
    Paul campaign chair Jesse Benton flatly denied that they were paying Sorenson.

    “No, she doesn’t have a clue,” Benton told POLITICO.

    Asked why Bachmann would make such an accusation, Benton shot back: “Because she just lost her campaign chairman and her campaign is floundering.”

    The state senator said he called Bachmann on the phone right before he arrived at the Iowa state fairgrounds, where the Paul event is being held.

    Sorenson declined to share her reaction, but suggested the GOP contest had become a two-man race and that he wanted to defeat Mitt Romney.”
    http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2011/12/fmr-bachmann-chair-decided-to-switch-to-paul-tonight-108969.html
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    For Liberty!!

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:34am

      BACHMAN doesn’t mind making inflamatory and untrue statements..She did the same thing when she made accusations against Iran and criticized Paul in the debates..They argued about it and it turned out Paul was right..Bachman doesn’t have to worry about liability..because she is an attorney.. Know what the symbol for an attorney should be? two snakes wrapped around a pole..

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:34am

      4Liberty!

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    • ZengaPA65
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:39am

      Bachmann is a pathological liar.

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    • Whirling Dervish
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:51am

      I think in her case the lights are on but nobody is home.

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    • c0mm0nsense
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 1:16am

      KidCharlemagne
      Yes this is a 2 man race. Paul vs Romney. To beat Romney and his money machine we are going to need the support of the other Candidates supporters. As others drop out of the race and they will, We must Welcome them to the Paul Camp.

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    • THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 2:49am

      @commonsense—
      Agreed

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    • jcannon98188
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 3:16am

      @Ashes to Ashes

      “Know what the symbol for an attorney should be? two snakes wrapped around a pole..”

      You mean like the pole that Hermes carried, which is a symbol of Medicine?

      Or the brass serpent that moses put on a stick and raised so that all who look upon it may be healed?

      I do not support Michelle Bachmann at all, she voted for the Patriot Act, but atleast try and make insults that you know, actually are insulting -_-

      RON PAUL 2012!

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    • UrsaMajor
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:29am

      Ron Paul supporters: “We LOVE Career Politicians and the Career Politician tactics they use. RON PAUL 2012… BECAUSE THREE DECADES LIVING OFF THE TAXPAYER LIKE A LEECH JUST AIN’T ENOUGH!!”

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:54am

      Yes, and Bachmann aid said she lied:

      http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/12/29/in-case-you-missed-it-bachmann-key-aide%E2%80%99s-statement-on-sen-kent-sorenson-defection/

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  • abbygirl1994
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:24am

    Flip flop!

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    • Whirling Dervish
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:57am

      Saw the light perhaps.

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    • Jenny Lind
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 8:46am

      I am at the point where after this nothing could make me vote Paul. Up until now I considered it only holding my nose. Nothing turns me off like a turncoat. Reading the Paul supporters has totally turned me off. They are hatefull , not like the tea Party I joined. Sorry guys-you made me decide against Paul.

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    • louise
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:23am

      Jenny, you said
      I am at the point where after this nothing could make me vote Paul. Up until now I considered it only holding my nose. Nothing turns me off like a turncoat. Reading the Paul supporters has totally turned me off. They are hatefull , not like the tea Party I joined. Sorry guys-you made me decide against Paul.

      Jenny when you claim that you were only going to vote for Paul “holding your nose” tells everyone that you never really agreed with his constitutional principles in the first place. “We” did not “make you” decide anything. You did that all on your own. At least be truthful. Sorensen is not the one running for President, is he?

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  • Steelhead
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:23am

    it’s fun watching the carnage being done to the republiclan party as the candidates tear down their opponents, Obama benefits from this ya know, Obama 2012

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    • Whirling Dervish
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:58am

      Ron Paul wins 1-1 against Obama in every single poll.

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    • Voice_ofFreedom
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 2:36am

      well if paul wins that one he does so without my vote…I‘ll be busy preparing for the end if that’s the choice we’re left with.Obama will destroy this country, and paul will simply do it a little differently and more spectacularly. Obama will do it on purpose and paul will just plain screw it up out of sheer stupidity. In the end not much will be different.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 6:44am

      Voice…Returning to the Constitution will destroy us? How so? Wake up fool.

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  • SFsuper49er
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:15am

    I feel very bad for her because she’s a great lady / leader and time and time again the people pick the wrong one… All i can say Mrs. Bachmann is they’re be sorry…

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    • 1casawizard
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:27am

      The almighty dollar bought him out…. He may have thought Bachmann would not win…. She has a chance and I’m sure she has a back up if need be. dopn’t let this break you Michelle, WE and U.S. need you.

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    • FormerLib
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 1:34am

      Ron Paul is the newest sacrificial lamb being led to the slaughter. Notice every “frontrunner” has a shelf life of about two weeks? And at 76 years old, I doubt Ron Paul would see a full term served out if he did by some miracle get elected-which will never, ever happen. The Republican establishment will not allow it. The Obama camp is praying that Ron Paul is the nominee-Ron Paul makes Obama look like he knows what he’s doing overseas.

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    • 1776freedomofspeech
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 5:50am

      @SFSuper49er

      Ditto!

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    • TheWholeTruth
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 7:37am

      Hey Lib.. what’s with the age thing? Reagan was older than Paul when he was elected. Paul is very healthy and could most likely out do you in a bike marathon. He’s smart, and because of his age he’s witnessed things that the others have only read about in history. You know what that makes him? Better informed! I mean, who would you trust to tell you how something happened, an eye witness or someone who heard it in the grapevine? With age, comes wisdom for most people. Let me put it another way. Most young adults don’t listen to their parents about how things are in the world. They don‘t believe them because they haven’t witnessed it yet and others (young adults) have told them differently. It’s not until they experience things do they realize their parents were right and they should have listened to them. That being said, Ron understands how things truly are. He’s never flip-flopped on an issue, he’s always stood by and honored his oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution. Can you tell me how anyone who voted for the Patriot Act is upholding and protecting the Constitution? Maybe someone should ask all these candidates how they feel about the NDAA !!! THAT would clear up a whole lot of things and disqualify most every single candidate (if they told the truth.)

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    • madasblazes
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 8:19pm

      I would never hire him, nor trust him, now.

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  • Ghandi was a Republican
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:14am

    He must suck anyway..

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  • sermaus
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:12am

    Kent Sorenson, is it conviction or convenience? Term limits please

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  • PJL
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:11am

    Paul and this guy deserve each other, most conservative my Butt. Paul will sale us out to the world.

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:14am

      Seems like the people you have supported over the years have done that. Maybe your just a dumb A$$. You can’t stop the Revolution.

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:14am

      i really hope you dont believe what you just posted. i would hate to think people are that stupid.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:30am

      @BRADLEY “I hope you don’t believe what you just posted..hard to believe anyone is that stupid.” It’s called the “Stepford Wife Syndrome” Bradley…They will accept anyone George Soros throws at them as long as they have RHINO stamped on their foreheads..They support spending one trillion a year on policing the world even though we are 16 going on 17.5 trillion broke..They support Islam..Communism..the UN..AGENDA 21..UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE..GOVERNMENTAL COLLAPSE and MARSHALL LAW..

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:44am

      i got you man, i was referring to the oringinal poster. i am ron paul 100% sir.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 1:00am

      @BRADLEY I know you are for Paul..I’ve seen your other posts..I was just telling you what is currently wrong with the ones who don’t get it..Sorry..didn’t mean for you to take it as aimed at you..You are right on.

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    • sillyfreshness
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 1:12am

      Do you mean “sell” instead of sale? Actually Ron Paul is a threat because he won’t sell this country out to the Jews and Israel (who currently control this country). They know Paul will do what he claims. He will shut down government departments and he won’t sell this country out to China. He is a threat. He isn’t playing ball like everyone else. To the media, their ultimate candidate was Bill Clinton. He was perfect because he was a two faced, lying, cheating, hood winking, say anything to get elected politician. Basically the opposite of Paul. Clinton sold us out with NAFTA. Paul will never sell out the US to Israel to anyone. He will do everything he said he will do.

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  • resme
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:10am

    Ron paul racist rant 1972 finally a video…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8Rv0Z5SNrF4

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    • Patrick Henry II
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:22am

      Very Impresive. If true, makes me feels better. I still think that he is a true Christian man. even though others seems to say different. Not that he is perfect. he is not.

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    • Whirling Dervish
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:55am

      Wow, that was deep.

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    • joan k
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 1:57am

      Awesome video. I hope it airs… it will change a ton of people’s minds about the racism charge.

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  • ModerationIsBest
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:09am

    Huh, another Evangelical bites the dust.

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  • 9635kari
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:09am

    If the people on this comment board are singing Ron Pauls praises, then we are in serious trouble. I thought I was among strong conservatives, but Ron Paul is a loser!! Anyone who believes that 9/11 was an inside job, as Paul believes, should be off the ballot. Ron Pauls anti-Semitic rants in his newsletters, and don’t tell me has had a change of mind, should be enough for we conservatives to run the other way. Is he really who the tea party endorses? Unbelievable!! Take my name off the list of tea party activists. I am stunned by these comments.

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    • Patrick Henry II
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:13am

      He is better than Obama. By far. If he reinstated our un used Constitution it would be good for Jews and everone else who is good. Yes Ron Paul has problems but the lst time the GOP estblishment did not get there way in the nomination we got Ronald Reagan. Think about that.

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:13am

      You should go start a 3rd party. And bring the rest of your chemically lobotomized baby boomers with you.

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:15am

      NO .. his followers are trying to high jack the TEA Party .. I can assure you from the two TEA Party groups I belong to locally and the national ones .. they are NOT supporting Paul!

      “Numbers USA, one of the leading groups opposed to our current insane immigration policies, gives Republican presidential candidates the following grades on immigration: Paul, F; Gingrich, D-minus; Huntsman, D-minus; Santorum, D-minus; Perry, D; Romney, C-minus; and Bachmann, B-minus.”

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:28am

      Saying Paul is better than Obama is like saying a sharp stick in the eye is better than a knife in the back. Both suck and really hurt.

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:32am

      CatB
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:15am

      NO .. his followers are trying to high jack the TEA Party .. I can assure you from the two TEA Party groups I belong to locally and the national ones .. they are NOT supporting Paul!
      ================================================

      I feel sorry for your ignorance:

      ———————————————————–
      “Ron Paul: Boston Tea Party 2007 (December 16, 2007)”
      http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/BostonTeaParty07.jpg

      “The Tea Party Started In 2007 And Ron Paul Is The Godfather”
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bNiDx7qTjA
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      For Liberty!!

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:38am

      Ron Paul supporters know who started the TEA Party because we did in 2007…Soon after people like Cat“B” who supports more spending, and more war which leads to higher taxes started saying they were “TEA”. 

      People like Cat“B” who support the very thing they are “protesting” were the wanna “B” hijackers. 

      Cat“B” can’t even tell exact policies she disagrees with Ron Paul on without just name calling. 

      Cat“B” would support candidates that send money to Muslim nations who hate Israel and raises taxes. 

      Cat“B” supports candidates who don’t care about the Fed Reserve

      Cat“B” supports candidates who want more war which means higher taxes. 

      Yet Cat“B” says TEA!? 

      Cat“B” please tell your TEA Parties, if you even go, if they support candidates who spend money or are like you they ain’t TEA. They are hypocritical! 

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:44am

      CATB supported Herman Cain..No? Herman Cain threw his support to Ron Paul. Guess CatB didn’t think Herman Cain was that smart.

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    • Ballot_Box_Revolution
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:58am

      @9635K

      You must be new here?? HAHAHA. I am pleasantly surprised how many RP supporters were here, and have been for some time. The over whelming support for Paul should tell people something. People think that Paul supporters are out to attack anyone who has something negative to say, but in reality there are just so many of us that it feels like we are the only ones backing who we believe is the right person for the job. I have seen others back their candidates when negative things are said, but the amount of support is so weak only the Paul supporters get noticed…

      Stop and take a break from media for a bit, and look around you at real/personal life and compare to what you see….it will be different. For example….The notion that BO has a chance at winning is just BS. I do not know one person this election season who is in favor of Obama….Last time around I would say i knew slightly less people who were going to vote for obama than McCain (but must factor in, about 60% of the people I know are republican…or conservative.) And I have never been through an election season where I didn’t know people on both sides…The media just don’t add up to reality…People are starting to get it…

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    • Taldren
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 1:06am

      @CatB,
      >NO .. his followers are trying to high jack the TEA Party
      Seeing how his supporters started the current day TEA Party movement back in 2007, it would be hard for them to “high jack” it. That would be like trying to Car Jack your own car from your driveway.

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    • c0mm0nsense
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 1:26am

      cat
      Sorry to say but Ron Paul is the father of the TEA Party here is story on Herman Cain Supporters
      http://news.yahoo.com/herman-cain-supporters-flock-ron-paul-195610208.html

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    • 1casawizard
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 1:45am

      Ditto.

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    • Drakkhanlord
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 3:42am

      IF you do not believe 9/11 was an inside job , You need medical help…

      Have been 1000′s of Engineers , Demo Profesionals , and First responders that have reported was an inside job …not to mention the 1000 deg heat , weeks AFTER the buildings fell…The streams of molten steel seen by firefighters , Building 7 and No plane at Pentagon and all records were lost…Ignorance is not an excuse.

      Search youtube engineers and 9/11 …9/11 inside job …go to the Cspan website and read the dam report…can see the pentagon video ..it is not a dam plane.

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    • cjd16585
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:04am

      @CATB. you got it all wrong. Ron Paul was actually the one who stared the TEA party in 2007.

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  • K. Iandoli
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:06am

    What a dirty trick. It shows Sorenson’s true character. I hope the Iowan voters see the light and the evil of Paul before it’s too late. Bachmann is the one true conservative Tea Party candidate running!

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    • Honorific
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 2:19am

      Ron Paul is co-opting the Tea Party.

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    • LibertariansUnite
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:55am

      He cannot co-opt something he started. Nice try.

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    • louise
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 5:53am

      K. INADOLI,

      There is only one way to know if a candidate is a “true conservative”. Find out if they truly uphold the Constitutionally correct domestic, economic, and foreign policy. This is an easy feat in today’s world because of the internet. A few clicks and you have your answers because you would have searched out their records.
      Bachmann is a pretty and intelligent woman who loves the Constitution EXCEPT for the meddling in the affairs of other countries. ALL the candidates are the same EXCEPT for Ron Paul. His record bears this out. When he takes his oath of office, we know he will KEEP it.
      People say he looks wimpy…Ron Paul is no wimp. It takes courage and integrity to stand on your principals for over 30 years. Look at the rest of them….they change their mind every time the wind blows. If you want to know the real man, Ron Paul take time to read this letter written by his wife, Carol.

      http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/paul-carol1.html

      When trying to decide who is worthy of your support, ask yourself who it is that consistantly in all matters, upholds our Constitution. Like I said, it is just a matter of a few clicks on the internet. It is not hard. Listen to the truth. Have a great day and New Year!

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:57am

      The Tea Party is fractured and hijacked by the GOP war machine.
      Which Tea Party are you talking about?
      Tea Party
      Tea Party Patriots
      Tea Party Xpress
      Tea Party Grassroots
      Freedom Watch
      on and on

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  • Copper Catfish
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:04am

    What a despicable excuse for a human being Kent Sorenson is, to leave Michele Bachmann high and dry less than a week before the election.
    Do loyalty and character mean nothing to Ron Paul and his worshipers?

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:06am

      Nope it’s all money and drug legalization.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:40am

      Sorenson wasn’t married to Bachman..he was her campaign chairman..i would imagine he started feeling a passion for the cause of Ron Paul and the Constitution. the Paul Campaign has denied paying Sorenson..Remember Paul and Bachman went toe to toe on Iran and it turned out Paul was right and Bachman..the attorney was RRRRR,..WRONG!! Bachman has been a DA and she knows how to do “shock value” very welll.

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    • c0mm0nsense
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 1:29am

      This stuff happens every election. nothing new here.

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    • UrsaMajor
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:40am

      I totally agree, Commonsense… which just goes to shoe that Paul is nothing more than a typical Career politican playing typical Career politican games. Your own words prove that Paul is everything that you claim he is not.

      But, maybe three decades as a taxpayer leech just isn’t long enough for you and the Paul supporters.

      CAREER POLITICIANS! YEA!!!

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    • azjeff1963
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:00am

      AGAIN and this will be the LAST time i set you “HE wants to legalize drugs” straight write it down if your drunk binges make you forget…….HE DR Paul wants the STATE’S to implement and maintain the drug laws not the federal government……also idiots……what do you think the big pharma companies do? they dupe you into taking drugs that do nothing for you at exhorbitant cost …..and why are our troops being used to protect poppy fields in the mid east….wake the ef up!!

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  • K. Iandoli
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:04am

    What a dirty trick. It just shows the true character of Sorenson. Hopefully, the Iowan voters will see the light and the evil of Paul before it’s too late. Bachmann is the one true Tea Party candidate running.

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:07am

      Uh. No. I was in on the Tea party when the bobble heads on Fox and Talk radio where still calling us terrorists. That was back in 07 and 08 when it sprang forth from the Paul run of 08.
      Look, if you don‘t have a clue then its best you don’t post. OK.

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:17am

      Bull .. Paul is not the TEA Party and the TEA Party is NOT Paul .. the TEA Party is STRONG on DEFENSE AND LEGAL IMMIGRATION … not Paul.

      Numbers USA, one of the leading groups opposed to our current insane immigration policies, gives Republican presidential candidates the following grades on immigration: Paul, F; Gingrich, D-minus; Huntsman, D-minus; Santorum, D-minus; Perry, D; Romney, C-minus; and Bachmann, B-minus.

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:37am

      CatB
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:17am

      Bull .. Paul is not the TEA Party and the TEA Party is NOT Paul .. the TEA Party is STRONG on DEFENSE AND LEGAL IMMIGRATION … not Paul.
      ==============================================

      Ron Paul STARTED the Tea Party on December 16, 2007 (long before the cheap imitation Tea Parties were ever formed!)

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      “Ron Paul’s Tea Party For Dollars
      December 16, 2007 06:33 PM

      By Michael Levenson, Globe Staff

      Ron Paul supporters marched today through the snow from the State House to Faneuil Hall, then smashed the one-day fund-raising record for a Republican presidential candidate.

      As of 7 p.m., the supporters said they had raked in $4.3 million, surpassing the record $4.2 million total they raised on Nov. 5.

      Most of the 33,000 donations were made over the Internet in what the supporters called a “money bomb” timed to coincide with the 234th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party.
      http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2007/12/ron_pauls_tea_p.html

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    • booger71
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:45am

      KidCharlemagne
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:37am
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      Looks like Ron will get to live it up with all those money bombs in retirement

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:48am

      Ron Paul supporters know who started the TEA Party because we did in 2007…Soon after people like Cat“B” who supports more spending, and more war which leads to higher taxes started saying they were “TEA”. 

      People like Cat“B” who support the very thing they are “protesting” were the wanna “B” hijackers. 

      Cat“B” can’t even tell exact policies she disagrees with Ron Paul on without just name calling. 

      Cat“B” would support candidates that send money to Muslim nations who hate Israel and raises taxes. 

      Cat“B” supports candidates who don’t care about the Fed Reserve

      Cat“B” supports candidates who want more war which means higher taxes. 

      Cat“B” would rather defend Saudi Arabia’s borders with US troops then defend her homeland and birders. 

      Cat“B” is for a national ID card..

      Yet Cat“B” says TEA!? 

      Cat“B” please tell your TEA Parties, if you even go, if they support candidates who spend money or are like you they ain’t TEA. They are hypocritical! 

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    • LibertariansUnite
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 5:02am

      The irony Cat-B is you represent the mindset of many people on this board.

      The mindset is: I refuse to admit that I was wrong.

      Yes, you bought the propaganda against Dr. Paul from Beck/the Media. Yes you stood united with the pundits from FOX news, and radio hosts like Levin and Rush.

      Now you find yourself in a hypocritical hole, you can’t exactly endorse Paul because you have bashed him many times, probably in real life situations as well.

      Let me go ahead and tell you something: The majority of “Paulies” were wrong too. We all have been wrong, we bought the same propaganda line you did, and we realize our mistake.

      So I urge you, to let go of your stubborn pride, and embrace what you have been crying for repeatedly. A person who serves the Constitution.

      Understand: It is ok to be wrong every now and then, especially if everything around you tries to convince you that wrong is right. Do not however make the mistake of clinging to your pride, when you know deep in your heart that the only man telling the truth, and giving the people the “hard” but right answers, is Dr. Ron Paul.

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    • w4rpedfr4me
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 8:52am

      But you see, Paul is strong on DEFENSE. He wants to end our OFFENSIVE empire building campaign around the world.

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  • Copper Catfish
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:01am

    “Kent Sorenson personally told me he was offered a large sum of money to go to work for the Paul campaign. Kent campaigned with us earlier this afternoon and went immediately afterward to a Ron Paul event and announced he is changing teams. Kent said to me yesterday that ‘everyone sells out in Iowa, why shouldn’t I,’ then he told me he would stay with our campaign. The Ron Paul campaign has to answer for its actions.” ~Michele Bachmann

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    • Honorific
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 2:17am

      “Listen, that’s absurd. Like I said before, people on this campaign supported me in my race. They worked tirelessly for me. They stuffed envelopes, they door knocked for me,” he said. “I feel like I’m coming home to them.
      -Kent Sorensen

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  • Pro-Palin
    Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:59pm

    To Hell with PAUL !!! And this turncoat.
    That idiot is almost as bad as the guy Ross Perot selected for VP you cant get an answer from him without him sounding like an old half witted man. Porky pig can make more sense.

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:00am

      why don’t you go start a 3rd party and leave us alone? Liberty is the philosophy of the GOP and if you don’t like it i suggest leaving.

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:04am

      LOL .. Paul is no “Republican” … LOL .. just like Trump .. just trying to screw up the election.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:54am

      Yes Cat“B” Ron Paul is a Republican and runs on the very platform Republicans/Conservatives are to have. 

      Libertarianism is the very HEART and SOUL of being a conservative. Ronald Reagan

      Trump is a joke and arrogant jerk. No way Trump is/was/or ever will be a Republican Conservative. 

      Once again Cat“B” shows she doesn’t know what she talks about. I guess we should be use to it by now. 

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 2:35am

      I’m not sure why Ron Paul is always compared to Ron Reagan… I’m really not sure they have very many similarities other than their first name…

      Now, this is a very brief overview of only a few of each individuals policies (I can’t cover everything in these limits, and there are certainly some positions they ‘share’). But these are some of the bigger issues where they would seem to differ.

      Ron Reagan continued and expanded the War on Drugs (and is fondly remembered by most conservatives for he and his wife’s “Just Say No” campaign). Ron Paul, would end the War on Drugs, and legalize all (?) drugs.

      Ron Reagan was a war Hawk, and very much an interventionist… He pushed America into Grenada, Central America, Lebanon, Libya, and helped bring about the fall of the USSR (but it might be argued that the Cold War never truly ended, just went underground). He was strongly allied with the Iron Lady herself, Margaret Thatcher… During his time the military expanded 43%… He was a strong proponent of “victory through strength”. Ron Paul would like to cut back the military and budget, end intervention, and bring forces back to US itself. In a more isolationist approach.

      For the ‘anti-Catholic’ conspiracy theorists (no offense to Catholics)… Ron Reagan helped the Vatican ragain much of its political influence on the world… I‘m not sure what Ron Paul’s position on ‘catholic influence’ is however, but based on his choice to avoid any “entangling allian

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 2:37am

      “entangling alliances” (based on Jefferson’s comment)…

      Now, Alex Jones (for his fans), IIRC, pointed out in conspiracies that Ron Reagan attended Bohemian Grove, and may have been a member of Bilderberg…. There are even pictures of him at the grove…

      In Reagan’s favor, he did attempt to cut back size of government in other departments? Ron Paul also supports this perspective…

      I‘m surprised that Reagan isn’t compared to a “Neocon” (from Paulist definition) rather than Ron Paul… I‘m not sure based on Ron Paul’s positions why he would want to be associated with Reagan policies… I‘m also not sure why Reagan’s actions aren‘t being accused for causing ’blowback’… It‘s as if there is a somewhat revisionist history ignoring Reagan’s positions…

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 3:01am

      Reagan also ‘funded’ the Nicaraguan Contras, aided the Guatamalan army, and armed the Mujahideen in Afghanistan (which if you believe in ‘blowback’, helped to bring about the rise of Osama Bin Laden)… Ron Paul, says he would avoid supporting/funding/etc any foreign organization or nation…

      So again I’m not sure why anyone who supports Ron Paul would want to hold him up to Reagan… If they believe ‘America’ is at fault for most of its wars for its interference… Since based on that theory, Reagan would be just as much to blame…

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 3:22am

      @Sacred Honor

      My reference to Ronald Reagan was Ronald’s quote of what the heart and soul of being a Conservative is, Libertarianism. 

      Yes Ronald and Ron differed after Ronald took office and became more Liberal with his foreign policy with more intervention. (some say Ronald did not know about the Iran contra debatable) Before taking office and running for office Ronald was not so much an intervention hawk. His administration swade him to be so. Ronald moved from the right as a non-interventionist to the left as an interventionist. 

      The image “conservatives” make Ronald out to be isn’t a true image because to see Ronald and his admins failures for what they were would mean conservatives would have to admit to their mistakes and own up to our responsibilities. We as conservatives aren’t the best at that thus the reason Glenn Beck preached about responsibility. 

      Yes, supporting Saddam and teaching him how to make chemicals weapons and how to use on Iran led to hatred towards America from both sides. We funded both sides of a 8 year war. 

      I’m not saying Ronald was a horrible guy but he did have some failures and did move from the right to the left in his administration on foreign policy.
      Some compare Ron Paul to Reagan in regards to what Reagan ran to be, not necessarily became. 

      Hope you are well.  

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 3:58am

      According to Ron Paul himself;

      http://www.dailypaul.com/freedom-under-siege/Freedom-Under-Siege-complete.pdf

      “The American people, unfortunately, could not see that both actions were the result of the same flawed policy…. The Grenada invasion was heralded as a great triumph and applauded by the vast majority of American people…. Worst of all, and typical of our tragic foreign policy – in the midst of the Grenada invasion designed to make the world safe for democracy by stopping the spread of communism – President Reagan, behind the scenes, was forcefully lobbying for specific aid to ‘Communist-dictators’ through additional IMF funding. The invasion of Grenada is hardly the victory the American people were led to believe.” (p. 50-51)

      “The U.S. policy toward Libya further confirms our irrational foreign policy. Under Reagan we have been determined to pick a fight with Khadafi, defying him with naval and air maneuvers in the Gulf of Sidra. As we try to emphasize our right to navigate in international waters near Libya, we totally reject the territorial waters of Nicaragua by mining their harbors. The World Court rulings against the U.S. were ignored by the Reagan Administration….” (p. 51-52)

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:07am

      “Some compare Ron Paul to Reagan in regards to what Reagan ran to be, not necessarily became.”

      I’d seriously be careful with those kinds of arguements (splitting a person into two personalities)… It sounds awfully like Gingrich‘s sees himself as ’early Roosevelt’ vs. Bull Moose Roosevelt ‘arguement he had with Glenn Beck a few weeks ago…

      When if you look deeper there are shades of Reagan’s leftist policies on both before and after… case in point Ronald was a long time Democrat before switching to Republicans… He had alot of liberal support during his California elections. Granted the liberals/hippies used to like him… Guess that’s one reason he was believed to be a great uniter… By fans and critics on both sides…

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:14am

      Here for an example is a bit from Reagan in 1948 were he spouted more leftist talking points, as opposed to ‘conservative’;

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f0A_P9kNBc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

      Note how left accuse him of lieing after that from their perspective his viewpoints shifted towards the right!

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:37am

      Btw I don’t know, but it seems that the idea of ‘foreign intervention’ is a ‘Neocon’ idea… But technically the history of foreign intervention occurs long before the first ‘Neocons’…. I don’t know hat far we can go back to first example of foreign intervention… But a good example of early American interventii might be the nonviolent overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii with the help of US Marines in 1893 under the Republican president Harrison… Sorta ignored by Democratic Garfield (although he at first promised to return sovereign Ty to the Queeb), and later upheld and further enforced by Republican McKinley…

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:40am

      Sacred Honor

      I hear you and to be quite honest with you I’m no fan of Ronald Reagan for those very reasons. He was a great guy but he left a lot of core conservative principles for more progressed principles that honestly caused a lot of trouble. 

      What I’m saying is people look at Reagan and do not see him as a progressive but history shows us he really was as mentioned thru his intervention policy and thru his spending habits. Like George Bush II who ran on not Nation Building and not being a world police and than flipped to Nation Building and policing the World, Reagan did the same. We only think of the good of Reagan. 

      Bush is not revered by Republicans because of the two wars and failures to find WMD’s as well as the Banking collapse along with spending so Republicans go back to the Republican President before him, Reagan and praise him though he left many conservative principles for more Liberal or progressed to the left policies. 

      I do believe Ron could unite many like Reagan. Ron is way to the right. He will have to compromise and so will the left. Ron being so right will make the left move toward to the right in compromise which slowly moves us back as seen in the overturn window. 

      You make valid points I totally agree with. Appreciate your thoughts much. 

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:56am

      @Sacred Honor

      Progressives came out during Abe Lincoln’s time and especially after his murder. 

      As a whole though our Constitution was founded on Non-Intervention and it is clear as day in George Washington’s farewell address. 

      The whole NEO-Con bit was what democrats used for Democrats who supported Progressive Republicans during Vietnam. Democrats called those defecting Democrats “New Conservatives”. Oddly, some Republicans actually took that platform and embraced it. 

      Look at Bill Krystal-he’s for intervention with the military or financial dollars in foreign nations. He is also for socialist programs (intervention domestically). That by definition is Progressive (Socialist). more Government. 

      Old Conservatives were the least to intervene (conserve) domestically or internationally. Conservatives didn’t like to change, were traditional, and reserved. 

      Progressives have done a grand job with intertwining and playing the word game thru generations to the point it is hard to know what is up and what is down. 

      Always enjoy your conversations. Hope your night is great. Stay safe! 

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:59am

      Hmm was looking things up and Reagan’s Involvement in the Bohemian Grove goes back at least as far as 1967, if not earlier… I’d suspect it could even went back to before 1948… But who knows?

      But back to less fringe historical discussion… I suspect American intervention is a evolution of the corrupted form of Manifest Destiny and Imperialism that the Progressives when they came into existence latches onto…

      You can trace things like the Patriot Act and stripping of due process as far back to John Adams Aliens and Sedition Act, and later Lincoln’s Ex-parte Merryman… One of Lincoln’s few flaws.

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 5:12am

      “Progressives have done a grand job with intertwining and playing the word game thru generations to the point it is hard to know what is up and what is down.”

      True… Glad we are in the same wavelength when it comes to the true historical etymology of Neocon….

      There is a certain fringe definition seemingly used as a perjorative against any who liberals (and unfortunately some independents and libertarians) might disagree on various topics, that seems to have a more anti-Semitic connotations…

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 6:09am

      @Sacred Honor

      I wouldn’t say it is anti-Semitic though. 

      Remember, NEO Con was a Democrat that supported Intervention thru war and as a normal democrat intervention domestically by Government thru social policies. 

      Bush, supported intervention thru war in foreign policy and supported intervention domestically thru Government programs. Bush is the very same thing as what democrats called “new conservative”. 

      So truthfully a lot of “conservatives” are really just those democrats that were labeled “New Conservatives” and thus the reason it is used so often. 

      Yes it is used quite often but quite often it’s used correctly. 

      The anti-semite part I would say stems from USA’s intervention foreign policy is always said as “we must defend Israel” using Israel kind of as a scapegoat. Progressive know the religious revere Israel so saying we must defend Israel as an excuse to go meddle in more countries does cause some blowback as anti-Semitism, thus Israel used as a scapegoat to keep blame off of progressives. 

      Thank you for the respectful conversation. Stay safe man! 

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:58am

      SacredHonor1776
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 3:01am

      Reagan also ‘funded’ the Nicaraguan Contras, aided the Guatamalan army, and armed the Mujahideen in Afghanistan (which if you believe in ‘blowback’, helped to bring about the rise of Osama Bin Laden)… Ron Paul, says he would avoid supporting/funding/etc any foreign organization or nation…
      =============================================

      On March 21, 1983, Ronald Reagan referred to Al Qaeda as “freedom fighters” for their efforts to repel the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan:

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      “To watch the courageous Afghan freedom fighters battle modern arsenals with simple hand-held weapons is an inspiration to those who love freedom.”
      — U.S. President Ronald Reagan, March 21, 1983

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:08pm

      Hmm I kind of goofed on my sentence structure I meant to say that some liberals (and in some cases some libertarians and independents) use the term ‘neocon’ as a perjorative against opposing conservatives (but hypocritically not against the actions of their own people or positions) in those situations especially when it’s a liberal pot calling the kettle black that it seems to tank on anti-Semitic undetones. Add to the situation that these liberals tend to also be more pro-Palestinian, and openly anti-Israel. In modern times pro-arab spring. They tend to describe the Jews much in the way Anti-Semites do “including in some cases elements of the ‘blood libel’, but more often ten not the warning of vast ‘Jewish banker conspiracies’ to take the world’s money and rule the world”. The same old medieval swill that lead to the inquisition, pograms, and holocaust. The same swill that organizations like Hamad still promote, and we are seeing on the rise in the US among some OWS protesters.

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  • A Conservatarian
    Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:58pm

    Hahahaha! :) Now that’s a little good news today.

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  • Anarcho Capitalist
    Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:57pm

    You can’t stop us now!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y3eAwgQB-s

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:20am

      Here is Paul’s conservative dream team
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4DRZP9JgBA

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:33am

      Kent Sorenson is an opportunist in it for the money and not for the principles of conservativism.
      He is a quiter and of the same bad character as the freaks that he left Bachmann to serve.
      Should look good on a job application……quiter…………

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    • Honorific
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 2:16am

      Sorensen has made a huge mistake. I‘m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and say it wasn’t for money, but that he felt that Ron Paul was gonna win and he didn’t want to be on the losing team. But he understood principles while he supported Ms. Bachmann, he just forgot them as he hurried on over to the Ron Paul Veteran’s Rally to backstab her on national TV.

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  • Patrick Henry II
    Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:56pm

    Paul may be the answer. The media will butcher him. It will be baaaaad. Of course that is true with any candidate that runs against Obama.
    rumor I heard Paul/Palin 2012? where did that come from? It would be good. both very libertarian.

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:02am

      “Numbers USA, one of the leading groups opposed to our current insane immigration policies, gives Republican presidential candidates the following grades on immigration: Paul, F; Gingrich, D-minus; Huntsman, D-minus; Santorum, D-minus; Perry, D; Romney, C-minus; and Bachmann, B-minus.

      And that was before Romney said last week that Obama’s drunk-driving, illegal alien uncle should be deported!”

      IF YOU WANT MORE ILLEGALS .. .of course I guess if you just let everyone in and give them amnesty then you don’t have an illegal problem anymore .. you just give up the United States of America … turn it all into California or Dearborn.

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    • Patrick Henry II
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:06am

      Without wellfare or legal work they would not want to be here.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 1:14am

      @CATB 2nd try.. The same Homeland Security that prevents Arizona from protecting her borders and helped in the delivery of weapons to Hezbollah?
      The same Homeland Security that pats down babies and the elderly while giving muslims a pass?
      THe Same Homeland Security that will be involved in a Bachman supported bill “Indefinite Detention” that is they can pick you up without charges , no trial and hold you indefitely..never to be seen or heard from again. Also they supported they Patriot Act and SOPA..loss of freedom of speech.
      Paul will remove the agencies of Communistic control
      Now about those drugs Cat B..Paul thinks we spend way too much money on incarcerating pot smokers..which is a little ridiculous when we don’t imprison for alcohol..He wants to cut one trillion in the first year and balance the budget in three..With his plan..he can do it..

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  • THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
    Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:51pm

    Calling ALL bachmann supporters ( including tron) come join us in the revolution.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:59pm

      join us in the revolution
      http://www.alternet.org/news/153551/ron_paul_and_libertarianism's_dirty_secret_–_pandering_to_racist_%22rednecks%22_to_get_ahead

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    • Crazy Times
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:07am

      come join us in the autobot revolution.
      come join us in the computer revolution.
      come join us in the green jobs revolution.
      come join us in the chocolate milk revolution.
      come join us in the communist revolution.
      come join us in the evil trolls revolution.
      come join us in the Ron Paul revolution.
      come join us in the American revolution.

      there is only one revolution i trust.

      VOTE FOR SANTORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • c0mm0nsense
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 1:20am

      Crazy
      Santorum is in worse shape then Bachmann. He is broke and not even easy on the eyes.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 1:22am

      @CRAZYTIMES Aw Rick..i’s past your bedtime.

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    • Go-rin-no-sho
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 2:48am

      I’m sorry, I’m no longer a warhawk. It‘s a problem for most warhawks to understand that’s what they are, because they’ve considered it to be a conventional conservative position. I’ve been questioning my support of Ron Paul in the past few days, but I just can’t get back into the same mindset. Wars, war industries fund these other candidates, and Ron Paul is the only one not involved. I’m voting for him, so that we can allow for freedom in the world, and we can focus on the real problems in our country.

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    • THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 3:01am

      @crazy
      How did you flip flop from michelle to santorum so quick?

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    • THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 3:03am

      @warhawk
      You are a true Patriot! I respect men like you! WE THE PEOPLE stand as one!

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  • KidCharlemagne
    Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:51pm

    Pastor Chuck Baldwin was indeed prophetic in his analysis from earlier this year!:

    “The Tea Parties Now Have Their Man
    Apr 28, 2011

    We need to get this straight: the Tea Party movement was never about electing Republicans–especially neocon Republicans! The Tea Party movement began as a grassroots effort to reduce the size and scope of the federal government; to rid America of the oppressive tax burden under which it currently groans; to eliminate the Federal Reserve; to return America to sound money; to stop the federal government’s obsession with foreign entanglements and wars; and to return America to constitutional governance. And there was only one man within the two major parties that was going to bring about those changes in 2008: Congressman Ron Paul, which is why the Tea Party was birthed as a grassroots extension of his campaign.”
    http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/home/?p=3435

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    • UrsaMajor
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 4:37am

      The Tea Party is also not about re-electing Career Politicans who have spent three decades leeching off the taxpayer.

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    • Donttredonme
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 8:16am

      three decades trying to be a voice of reason for the people and voting against all the things that have taken us down this rabbit hole

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    • cjd16585
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 9:23am

      @ursamajor. Three decades of a solid conservative voting record. He also had a career in medicine, in which he delivered over 4,000 babies and provided free medical care to folks that just couldn’t afford it. Also, RP does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension plan.

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  • THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
    Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:49pm

    Yes, the handwriting is on the wall..Even as this man has said ” Ron Paul IS the most Conservative in the top tier!”. All of you bachmann supporters come join us! Together we can take down thevestablishment progressives.

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:44pm

    Bachman will be gone very soon, but i think she should be in charge of Homeland security…

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:49pm

      Homeland security will be no more when Ron Paul ends the tyrannical mafia you call HLS.

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    • martinez012577
      Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:50pm

      She needs to stay in the house. As a conservative on most issues she will be needed in the house to get Ron Paul’s plan in place.

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:06am

      Numbers USA, one of the leading groups opposed to our current insane immigration policies, gives Republican presidential candidates the following grades on immigration: Paul, F; Gingrich, D-minus; Huntsman, D-minus; Santorum, D-minus; Perry, D; Romney, C-minus; and Bachmann, B-minus.

      And that was before Romney said last week that Obama’s drunk-driving, illegal alien uncle should be deported!

      So much for HOMELAND SECURITY >> PAUL WILL JUST OPEN UP THE BORDERS.

       
    • ashestoashes
      Posted on December 29, 2011 at 12:56am

      CATB You mean the Homeland Security that is preventing Arizona from deporting the illegals? The Homeland Security that will pat down a baby and an elderly person at an airport while giving the Muslims a pass? THe same HOMELAND SECURITY that can pick you up and hold you indefinitely without charges or trial..and you never to be seen or heard from again..It’s called Indefinite Detention and Bachman supports it..Also supports the Patriot Act..With these guys in office..we lose our rights also SOPA which is loss of freedom of speech on the internet and most likely anywhere else..More and more control you will relinqjuish.

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  • CFL Tea Party
    Posted on December 28, 2011 at 11:42pm

    We expect a lot of folks to do that within the next few days!!!

    RON PAUL 2012!

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  • ReallyAmazed
    Posted on December 29, 2011 at 11:13am

    @FloridaCracker

    No, I don’t think so, but before I draw out all the RP defenders, I’ll say that we would normally get another round of the same talking points, much of which we agree with. The discussion we don‘t hear much are the issues we’re not on board with. I’d genuinely enjoy reading some discussion on the candidates views on Sharia, the open border, and the Islam problem. Assuming the candidates know there is a problem.

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