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Baltimore Police Detain Hearing Impaired Man for Taking Photos at Rail Station

When Christopher Fussell traveled from Oregon to the Northeast recently, he decided to document the trip via photos and video. He’s somewhat of a photography enthusiast, so it’s not surprising. Innocent enough, it would seem.

But while at a train station in Baltimore, transit police detained him for nearly an hour and told him it was illegal for him to take pictures of the transit system without prior authorization, even citing the Patriot Acts as justification for their position. And Fussel captured it all on video.

Baltimore Police Detain Hearing Impaired Man for Taking Photos at Rail Station

In the lengthy exchange, the officers can be heard stumbling through legal reasoning while trying to tell Fussell he can‘t photograph and he can’t record them without their permission. Fussell, however, stands his ground:

“It is my understanding that I am free to take pictures as long as it’s not for commercial purposes but for personal use,” Fussell said in the video.

“Not on state property, not without proper authorization,” an officer said.

Fussell:  “From who?”

Officer:  “Nobody’s allowed to take pictures.”

The exchange, which was made more difficult because Fussell is hearing impaired, is posted in two parts on YouTube:

According to Fussell’s video description:

MTA Police finally gave back my farecard and ordered me to “cease and desist,” but continued to surround and bother me until I boarded the next Penn Station train. They followed me to Penn Station and got Amtrak Police involved. I felt at that point I had no choice but to give Amtrak Police my ID so they could conduct a warrant check. If the MTA Police hadn’t followed me, Amtrak Police most likely would have not conducted this security check based on my experiences at various Amtrak stations between Washington DC and Boston. The Amtrak Police Officer was truthful about the fact that there was no prohibition against taking pictures of trains or train stations, so his honesty is what also compelled me to give my ID. He was, in my opinion, dragged into this fiasco because of MTA Police.

Fussell’s videos were posted to YouTube on May 11. Since then, the Baltimore MTA has admitted the the officers were in error. WJZ reports:

The MTA admits the officers were in error.

“They can most certainly take photos of our system,” Ralign Wells, the MTA Administrator, said.

In addition to being wrong about MTA and state policy, the officer incorrectly cites the Patriot Act.

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The MTA acknowledges that additional training is in order.

“We’ll look at our training processes, we’ll look at whether any administrative situations need to occur with those officers,” Wells said

“This is not South Africa under apartheid and in this country, police do not have the right to walk up to you and demand you produce identification to them,” David Rocah of the ACLU told the station.

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  • NOBALONEY
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:38am

    The officers acted properly.

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    • wither
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:48am

      These officers, and those like them, don’t belong anywhere near a uniform.

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    • proliance
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:10pm

      The officers don’t know the law.

      1. Cop said photographer could not shoot his pictures without prior permission. Here’s the MTA policy: “A permit is not required for noncommercial, personal-use filming or photography by the general public that does not interfere with transit operations or safety.”

      2. Cop said it was illegal to record them, claiming it was the same as wiretapping. Here’s what a Maryland judge had to say about it: “Those of us who are public officials and are entrusted with the power of the state are ultimately accountable to the public,” the judge wrote. “When we exercise that power in public fora, we should not expect our actions to be shielded from public observation.”

      3. The officers unlawfully detained a person because of their own ignorance, and threatened to arrest him for not providing a physical ID. There is no law requiring anybody to carry identification.

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    • Texas Grasshopper
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:18pm

      @ baloney …read my first post please

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    • AwwwYeah
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:20pm

      Fulla-Boloney,
      What part of “the MTA admits the officers were in error” don’t you understand?

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  • proliance
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:16am

    Photography is not a crime.

    http://www.pixiq.com/contributors/248

    This is a website I frequent that highlights the abuses by police against people who are legally taking pictures or shooting video. Cops are universally clueless despite their training.

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  • BetterDays
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:15am

    Obviously it’s the trains fault! If we didn’t have trains, planes, boats, cars, buses, motorcycles, hot airballons, all manners of transport then we wouldn’t have this picture taking problem!
    And then there’s the cities, towns, Bergson, burgs, burgh, villes, issue as well!
    Oh, forget about it just let the Goverment put TSA everywhere, NOT

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  • publicuss
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:14am

    *This is not legal advice*
    Remain calm, ask the officer, “Officer are you detaining me or am I free to go” If he wants to search or asks you to give him your cell phone, state “I do not consent to searches” then ask, “Officer are you detaining me or am I free to go?” Stay calm. Do not answer questions unless your lawyer is there to assist you and he won’t be. Do not consent. If the officers block your way, ask again in a louder voice-to draw attention to yourself and the situation, “OFFICER ARE YOU DETAINING ME OR AM I FREE TO GO”.

    We do not have to produce ID, unless operating a motor vehicle and you do not have to give police your name in most states, unless they DETAIN you. If they detain you, pat you down looking for possible weapons and refuse to let you leave, state “I have nothing to volunteer to you officer, I want to speak to a lawyer”.

    The fact that you are asking about being ‘detained’, refusing a ‘search’ and asking to speak to a ‘lawyer’, all trigger certain protections under the ‘law’.

    Want to know more?

    http://www.flexyourrights.org
    *This is not legal advice.

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  • Nervous Investor
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:12am

    Could they have confused photography for pornography ?

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  • TXBORN
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:11am

    I agree with TXGrasshopper. I think the cops were right in questioning him. The only thing this guy did wrong was not provide his ID when asked. The police would’ve probably ran his information, just in case something would’ve happened to the rail in the future, and let him go.

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    • proliance
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:29am

      The cop didn’t know the law, the citizen did. He was required by law to give his name to the officer when questioned – which he did. This is basic constitutional law that the cop should have learned day 1 in the training academy.

      “Show us your papers or we’ll take you downtown, take your fingerprints and ID you that way” are Gestapo tactics. I‘m surprised he didn’t get beat down for “failure to properly grovel.”

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    • TXBORN
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:29pm

      Look, the cop was doing his job, initially. He was contacting a person who was acting suspiciously. He was being vigilant, which is what we want our officers to do in situations like that. Laws are different state to state. In Texas, if an officer has legally detained you, you are required to ID yourself. If you don’t, it’s a violation of law. The question if this guy was legally detained is another matter. BUT, if I’m doing nothing wrong, and an officer asks for my ID, I’m just gonna give it to him. I‘m not giving out any info that’s not already in the state database. THEN, the officer should gotten his ID info and cut him loose.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:08am

    Many on the right want to put all cops on some kind of pedestal. A lot of cops are just bullies with badges.

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  • commonsenseguy
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:08am

    in Florida, four months ago,a woman was feeding birds in a park, she was feeding them sage, when police seen here with the bag, they assumed it was pot, they confiscated the bad,and the next day arrested her at her business, after a four months investigation, and after losing her business,home and car,the police finally got the test back on the bag, it was sage after all,she should have never been arrested in the first place.this is going to happen more and more,throw people in jail,let them prove they are innocent , not we are innocent until proven guilty, communism 101.

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  • kcr630
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:07am

    This person should sue the MTA and the Baltimore police department for unlawful detention and harrassment. This crap has gone on long enough when law abiding citizens get hassled in this country but illegal aliens are not required to produce id. I refuse to live in a police state and we as American citizens need ot stand up and take our rights back.

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    • Texas Grasshopper
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:05pm

      dang ..did you a nail and the head ….you should see it down here in Texas ….dang that ID issues ticks me off…I have to provide all sorts of paperwork under force of Law but “ illegials ” do not obey laws of the land .grrrr

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  • tiredofprogressives
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:56am

    The Middle East laughs everytime something like this occurs. WE Over React. It’s still time to be vigilant but this is insane. We act like beginners when it comes to this.

    A plane flies around the Washington, DC airspace and immediately the sirens and alarms go off and the Capitol employees come running out of the building. This is embarrassing. Stop it.

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  • Evileye
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:56am

    I have taken picture of my travel all over the USA and Japan.
    I guess this ends my travel logs.
    I am 80 years old and cannot belive what has happened to our freedom in this country.
    Owned my first firearm at 10 years old. given to me by my grandfather on my ten birthday.
    Told me if I ever pointed at anyone he would bust over my head.
    I feared my father not the police.
    Girl wore Cross on a chin around there neck. Nobody sent them home because of the separation of church and state.
    You could start a business from scratch without 10 years of permit and law suet.
    when unemployment got to high Eisenhower sent the illegal home (operation wet Back).
    We had some bad thing like Segregation but we corrected them.

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  • satotbs
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:55am

    Ahh, Google Earth?

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    • TexasCommonSense
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:13am

      Good point. Why bother taking your own pictures when Google does it for you and makes it available to anyone, everywhere in the world. Maybe these cops should be harassing Google instead.

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    • proliance
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:32am

      I agree. Nobody should ever leave their home without prior permission from the authorities. Get your paperwork in order or else suffer the consequences. And I wish cops would taser more people who have the gall to know the law better than they do.

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  • brothaslide
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:50am

    People have been taking pictures of trains for decades. Many of these folks are called “Rail Fans”. They like trains. I’m sorry but this is complete lack of judgement by the MTA Police. Plus, they violated his rights. It seems like the cop got ticked off because Fussel stood up to him.

    Oh well :(

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  • SnowWolf
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:48am

    I put the blame on radical Islam…

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  • azsmitty
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:47am

    Once again, those who are to enforce laws have no clue what the laws are. Freedom of speach, assembly, religon and to travel within the borders of the nation without papers is what distiquishes us from European countries and the rest of most of the world. We are not required to produce out passports when traveling within the country. Probable cause can warrent a stop and inquiry. If this person had been filming switching mechanisms or electrical service boxes, one could see why an officer might deem it neccessary to question their actions, but that clearly isn’t the case here. It is a fine line we tread in the age of terrorism, if we harp too much on lawenforcement regarding responding, if they are second guessed on every encounter they are involved in, they may deem it too much of a hassle and ignor it. That is what terrorists look for………..a ***** in the armor that they can exploit.

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  • commonsenseguy
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:45am

    he should have gave them his i d , then told then to screw off, m t a , just goes to show you have the unions and the government use their powers to control people,and how really stupid they really are,none of them even knew the law, so lets intimate people until we get our way , the number one tactic of the left, these uneducated officers should have to go back through training again,and study the law. all of this could have been avoided, by both parties, but he did have the right to take pictures,but he should have gave him his i d,then told then to take a flying leap,and screw off. the officers should have known the laws.

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  • rienheart
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:43am

    Part of Obama’s Prvate Army, better funded and better equipped than our Military, but very much less educated about our Constitution. All by design, TSA will arrest you if you follow the Constitution and speak out against their agenda. Keep feeling our “junk” and eventually you might realize how perverted you really are, and the Agenda and People you follow blindly, have led you down a path to total Dictatorship, and you will eventually be in their crosshairs too. Read History of Communism/Fascism/Totalitarism (sic). It all ends the same. Death for millions. Including you who followed them blindly.

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    • kreese
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:54am

      You may be right—I‘ve wondered why he wasn’t asked what he meant by his private army.

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  • Texas Grasshopper
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:42am

    To the folks who sided with the Police ….It becomes obvious that he is not there to do bad things …they should have let him go on his way after a few minutes . here is why …..the whole point is to identify and prevent a incident right ….well that became clear after only a few minutes ….so them the objective of the Police NOW HAS CHANGED . It became a battle of wills …..I have to hand it to the photographer …he handled it better then me ..

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    • lketchum
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:00am

      Excellent analysis – I wish more people saw things with such clarity.

      The police were correct to check him out, and the second he was shown to be zero threat, they should have apologized for the intrusion most sincerely and moved on. Any reasonable person would have thanked them with equal courtesy and respect and no issue would have arisen.

      Instead, it became a test of wills – the state‘s versus the individual’s and in each such case, the individual is supposed to win – that is the essence of the natural rights guaranteed under our Constitutional Republic.

      Again, excellent analysis!

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    • Texas Grasshopper
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:58am

      Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined… The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun.” – Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778

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    • Texas Grasshopper
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:01pm

      I have my moments *L* thanks ( actaully pretty well versed in managing these types of Officers )

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  • olddog
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:40am

    I really don‘t think I’d waste taxpayer time and money trying to train incompetence. Why not just hire people that know how to use reason. I guess that would have to start from the top..

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  • Nathan-H
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:37am

    I am glad the Police are doing there job. They didnt beat the guy up. He looked suspicious, make sense.

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    • Opinionmonger
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:15am

      Rather stupid way to get your sit-pics for a terrorist act that way, don’t you think?
      Try google-maps satellite imagary , they are more detailed anyway and do sourround pictures to and give the exact GPS locations to boot.
      That is a lot more useful than a consumer cam can ever give as an sit-oversight.
      A well, only the stupid need to apply for those “goon jobs” I presume.

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    • Showtime
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:38am

      It’s not a crime to “look suspicious.“ There is a difference between ”looking suspicious” and engaging in a hobby one enjoys and being harassed by the MTA because they just don’t like what one is doing. The man broke no laws and knew he had broken no laws.

      It pays to pull the shredded fragments of our Constitution out of the trash and piece them back together sometimes.

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    • Susan Harkins
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:33pm

      If you are afraid and need a nanny, go back to your house and pay someone to take care of your pretty little self.

      In the mean time, don’t try to sell the rest of us AMERICANS on a full-fledged “nanny/police state”.

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  • Zoe
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:34am

    The hearing impaired man seemed to interact just fine with law enforcement. If he has nothing to hide & playing games with the cops, he is part of the problem.

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  • tomloy
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:33am

    Personally, I’d fire these two officers. Just for a lack of common sense if not for being idiots.

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    • devilhasforktongue
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:03pm

      Why because they stopped a white man who was impaired? But if they would have stopped an Middle Eastern then it would have been fine because they were more than likely terrorist? Go put your head in the toilet and flush…

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  • Vickie Dhaene
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:33am

    Is somebody going to tell me we have Not turned into a communist police state? We better figure a way to get our FREEDOMS back., or we are lost forever.

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    • devilhasforktongue
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:02pm

      If we did turn into a communist police state then none of your comments would be getting posted and half of the bloggers would have disappeared by now…

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  • RightPolitically
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:33am

    See how quickly all of this government intrusiveness and “over-kill” will get out of hand!

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    • vennoye
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:05pm

      The old saying, “Give them an inch and they will take a mile” was not made up without an example!!

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  • hersey10
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:32am

    I understand the concern for people filming , I get it , use some discretion on who you interrogate based on the obvious threat . I applaud him for having the COURAGE to stand .

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    • biohazard23
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:39am

      Next thing you know, you won’t be able to take photos of your children or your car or your friends or anything else. After all, there COULD BE something nefarious behind it….. Jeez. No wonder my husband left Maryland. He said the people in Baltimore city are affectionately known as Baltimorons. Now I can see why.

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    • SavingtheRepublic.com
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:44am

      ^____^____^
      Welcome to the Police State. So many are expecting some drastic event or actions they have seen in movies to take place in reality. It wont, the sci-fi world of ‘V for Vendetta’, ‘1984’ etc wont be introduced in some dramatic event; instead their fascist attributes are being rolled in subtly over a long period of time. Just as the communist plan is to take over slowly quietly, ease in so it becomes accepted as its just part of the daily routine.

      Look at it from a kids perspective they dont know the world as we all do. We all remember the days when you went to the airport, walked through security in 2 secs. Lets not forget how we were once able to go to the gate without a ticket to greet arriving friends, family etc. They are now being conditioned for full body search.

      The radicals know this, they know their old plans dont work so they must create laws and regs to herd us into conformity. So are you going to continue being sheep, or change the rules of the game and become the wolf?

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:45am

      @Hersey10

      Indeed, it is good he had the courage to take a stand for his rights; the fact is we have yet one more example of hot headed security using the Patriot act and such to try and dominate those around them and we all need to stand for what is right and good and true. This kind of harrassments will just keep occuring with more frequency in the near future as the administration cranks up the pressure on us all.

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    • PrfctlyFrank
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:47am

      OK now lets think rationally here.. Another consideration in this incident is profiling, in which I firmly believe.. This guy was profiled.. So what? No harm, no foul, nothing to see, sorry about the delay but we do have to take precautions and as distasteful as this incident is it’s done and nobody got hurt.

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    • lovenfl3
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:54am

      Don’t forget how Obama trashed George Bush over the Patriot Act. So for sure Barack got rid of the bill…..right? Nope, he made it even more intrusive. How’s that hope and change working out for you libs? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXvykO3qVF4 Everything about the Obama family equals hypocrisy.

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:00am

      Nazi Police State Thugs hate cameras.

      The camera is a weapon. Use it.

      Use it against the Police State Thugs. Get right up to them and video record their face and post it on YouTube. They hate it so much, it’s like showing a mirror to a Medusa, or exposing the vampire to sunlight.

      It’s like shining sunlight on a Gremlin.

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    • Meyvn
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:00am

      What BS! He can’t, but Google can. Tyranny.

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    • D0ntTread0nMe
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:02am

      Holy cow… this is the slippery slope we are going down. When Fake laws are put in an ordinary citizens face in order to scare him and make him, what? confess?? they looked bored and needed something to make their day more interesting. All it does is make me mad though.
      http://www.mythoughtsfromthemiddle.blogspot.com

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    • TexasCommonSense
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:03am

      lovenfl3, let us not forget, it was Obama’s VP candidate who basically wrote the Patriot Act in the first place, in 1995.

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    • The Big Pickle
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:05am

      Actually, the cops are well within their rights to ask for identification. What’s the big deal…just show them your identification and move on, you ignorant dunce!

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    • omgfolks
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:08am

      Just another example of abuse of power by the police department. He had no just cause to even apporach this man, yet he did anyway,(abuse). Demanding and ID from this citizen for no reason, (Abuse). Quoting The Patriat Act, (abuse) threatening to arrest, abuse. Police today are getting way too aggresive with their actions and nothing is being done, this cop is worried about his picture being taken in public. and what about the woman who was walking on the tracks while officer anit photo is harrassing this citizen.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:11am

      I would understand the concern if her were wearing Middle-Eastern clothes or looked Middle-Eastern, but these knuckle-heads do not do that. Training IS indeed in order.

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    • CatB
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:25am

      This isn’t the America of our fathers and mothers … this is now a police state .. I hope more people wake up to that fact.

      2012 TEA!

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:27am

      Kudos to this guy for remaining calm and knowing his rights. Most people would not handle the hassle and just stop and go on and let guys guys believe they are in the right to harrass people erroneously.

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:31am

      while stations are not immune, by any means, I suspect the easier target would be the thousands of miles of track that is completely unprotected. We need a technology that senses when track integrity is compromised. Perhaps sensors positioned along the track that sense changes in conductivity, or cameras that sense changes in high-res images, or drones that inspect track daily. I know electrical companies and gasline operators fly aircraft along their lines to look for ‘right-of-way’ infringements. Maybe us drones or blimps. I dunno – but I am sure we could do something more than we do now.

      Arresting people for taking pictures is probably not going to be the answer, I suspect.

      BTW: I’m not stirred either way by the fact the man was hearing impaired. He’s another guy. Could of happened to you or me if we snapped a pic of something or someone.

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    • proliance
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:36am

      @Bigpickle: Instead of calling people names, why don’t you spend that time looking up the law. You are required to give your info to the police when asked. Verbally giving that information to the police is perfectly acceptable. If he had been driving his car and and was pulled over for a traffic violation the he would have to show his driver’s license. Most of here were able to understand that he wasn’t in a car.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:37am

      These type incidents are becoming more and more frequent & will continue to. Unless things change, at some point these morons and the TSA etc will be given the authority to use “deadly force” if necessary for non-compliance….. remember, its for our own safety.

      Then the choice will be between a government issued ear tag, like the good cattle they demand….. or shooting back.

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    • wither
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:46am

      Funny. I don’t see the point. Could you let the rest of us know why there would be a concern in a free country?

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    • AwwwYeah
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:55am

      The bottom line is that, yes, the police have a job to do, and sometimes a difficult job, BUT they must do their job within the confines of existing laws.

      Being a citizen and knowing and standing up for your rights is also a tough job sometimes. Especially, when you’re surrounded by 4 or 5 officers and they keep telling you things about the law that you know, or might only be half sure, aren’t true.

      It takes responsibility by both parties to know and understand the rights of citizens. In this specific case, the cops were wrong. Unfortunately, that’s becoming a little too common in America.

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    • Kai Wan
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:04pm

      So i see pickle is a bend over and just take it kinda of guy……. pathetic pos.

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    • Oldphoto678
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:28pm

      @PrfctlyFrank

      So I guess in your mind it‘s ok to trample on someones constitutional rights if it’s just for a short time.

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    • Susan Harkins
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:30pm

      The Big Pickle
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:05am
      Actually, the cops are well within their rights to ask for identification. What’s the big deal…just show them your identification and move on, you ignorant dunce!

      —–

      Pickle is a little slow. Ok Pickle…let’s revisit the article again…

      “This is not South Africa under apartheid and in this country, police do not have the right to walk up to you and demand you produce identification to them,” David Rocah of the ACLU told the station.

      You sound as dense as those 80 IQ police officers. Do you get it NOW, Pickle?

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    • Susan Harkins
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:38pm

      Personally, I liked his response to the officers’ statement about not being recorded without consent. The guy continues recording, and says that he will step away so that the officer will not get recorded. That put the officer in check for forcing himself upon the recording device, yet demanding not to be recorded at the same time. ROFL!

      And then, the MTA acknowledges that additional training is in order: “We’ll look at our training processes, we’ll look at whether any administrative situations need to occur with those officers,” Wells said.

      Hey Wells — give these bozo police officers of yours a crash course in THE CONSTITUTION while you are at it. Seems like the FLUNKED AMERICAN HISTORY & CIVICS in high school!

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    • politicaljules
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:28pm

      Similar thing happened to me. In the Dallas Convention center I was taking pictures and security guards about 50 yards away were telling me to stop. It was crowded and hard to hear people from that far away especially when you are engrossed in taking pictures. They almost tackled me to repossess my camera. Of course I am a wimp and did not resist. I was shocked. I was even a paid convention goer and had my badge. They did not care.

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    • kennyg933
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:29pm

      Get used to it. As the pigs multiply, get better armaments to use against the people, and mobilze against the people after their daily roll call, this is going to be routine. In the end the people lose. We’ve already lost. And now that “Hope and Change’ re-upped the criminal fraud of the Patriot Act, there’s no limit to the police state. I say provok ethe cops to the point of creating an opportunity to expose their crimes of abuse of power and their tyranny. Photograph THEM-everywhere. Follow them to where they commit their crimes, their abuses of power, their misappropriations of your stolen tax money. If you see them having coffee out of their jurisdiction, photograph the car. Photograph the cop. Videotape the harassment you will get. They are no longer serving and protecting YOU, but the oligarcy to which you are subjugated. Give them no quarter. Get them fired, it you can. Complain to your alderperson, city council, etc. Befriend a good reporter and feed them your stories. Expose, expose expose. Stand tall for your freedom, atop the head of such swine, if that’s what it takes.

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    • TNT1
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:51pm

      @ pickle Then you shouldn’t have a problem with the Arizona law Right????

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    • cous1933
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:21pm

      Did you hear the officer say “Patriot Acts says…”? This is the kind of thing that results from un-Constitutional mandates by the government. Remember some of our so-called conservative members of Congress (West, Bachmann, & others) recently voted in favor of the Patriot Act. I’m a police officer and I think this is garbage. Unfortunately the transit officers are given orders based on the “Patriot Act” to investigate photographers of transit property so I can’t totally fault them but the whole thing stinks and is embarassing to watch from a law enforcement perspective. If you agree that this kind of violation of the Fourth Amendment is wrong, you should vote for Ron Paul.

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    • devilhasforktongue
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:00pm

      Shut up Biohazard23 because if the guy was Middle Eastern everyone would want him jailed…

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:50pm

      Hmm, no attacks against me for criticizing the Police State Thugs this time…

      Perhaps people are finally waking up…or perhaps only the most stark infringement of our civil rights will stir people out of their propaganda-induced stupor…

      Resist the Police State.

      Abolish the TSA. Abolish the Police.

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    • GODSAMERICA
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:58pm

      Amen hersey10

      I’m not real big on people suing other people but I think that this would a good one to sue on just to make these thugs think twice about harrassing people like that again.

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    • @ Coyote2
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 6:09pm

      With the jews running everything it can only get worse. We ain’t seen notin yet!!!

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    • restorehope
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:49pm

      Had to laugh at the ACLU guy who insisted that this is not South Africa where they have the right to demand ID’s if they so desire. Who is he kidding? If the left isn’t stopped, that is precisely what will happen in America. They are groping our bodies in airports already. Other Gestapo tactics are sure to follow if this administration is not given the boot in 2012.

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