Baptist Reverend to Maddow: Christians In America ‘Are Not Persecuted’
- Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:09pm by
Billy Hallowell
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Days after Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum caught some heat over Pastor Dennis Terry’s controversial introduction at Greenwell Springs Baptist Church in Greenwell Springs, Louisiana, another faith leader is speaking out.
Rev. C. Welton Gaddy, a minister at Northminster Baptist Church in Monroe, Louisiana, had some tough words for Christians in America who allege that there’s a war on religion. Additionally, he offered up some stark criticisms of Terry’s controversial words.
“It angers me and it hurts me when I read the words at first I laughed,” he told MSNBC host Rachel Maddow. “And then I thought, ‘I can’t laugh at this.’”
Gaddy went on to say that Terry wasn’t speaking out in a Christian manner.
“That man gave me the feeling that he is the war on religion, because what he was talking about was being anti-American and anti-religious,” he said. “He did not conform to the Bible and he didn’t conform to the constitution. We are not a nation that kicks people out because of disagreement.”
He also dismissed the notion that there is a war on religion and claimed that one can truly remove God from society.
“People who lived so long with an assumed establishment of religion — Judeo-Christian tradition — mainly Christian more than Judeo — are now having to play by the same rules that everybody else does,” he said. “And they‘re saying that that’s persecution. And one day they’re going to have to apologize to people in Afghanistan, and Iraq and places like that who really know what it’s like to be persecuted for their faith. These people are not persecuted.”
Watch the interview below, via MSNBC:
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:56pmThis pastor is a liberal shill and Maddow probably handpicked him to come up and say such a lie. He is not a Southern Baptist and probably affiliated with some fake Baptist organization. Maddow is a liberal beeyatch.
Report Post »BurntBacon
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 4:32pmYou’re right. If you look at his About Us bio on the site you‘ll find him bragging about all the visits he’s made to talk to Mainstream and Left-leaning media.
Report Post »izukiddin
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 4:34pmYou are correct! Rev. Gaddy is a shill for the left wing agenda nothing more.
Report Post »JJBlazeReader
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:09pm..
Rev. Gaddy is a leftist. He is the head of Interfaith Alliance which also has “irreligious members”. Rev. Gaddy use to have a radio show on the now defunct left wing “Air America” radio network.
Interfaith Alliance has a board member named Mahdi Bray who is an executive director of the Muslim American Society and the National Interfaith Committee for Worker Justice.
Yeah, he fits on the Rachel Maddow show.
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toto
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:29pmWhere do they find these guys? The leftists have inserted themselves EVERYWHERE.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:29pm@thegreatcarnac
That’s not fair, Carnac. I hear religious leaders all the time who saying things like:
“People who lived so long with an assumed establishment of religion — Judeo-Christian tradition — mainly Christian more than Judeo — are now having to play by the same rules that everybody else does,” he said. “And they‘re saying that that’s persecution. And one day they’re going to have to apologize to people in Afghanistan, and Iraq and places like that who really know what it’s like to be persecuted for their faith. These people are not persecuted.”
Don’t you? I mean, doesn‘t every pastor use moral equivalency to show how you can’t possibly be persecuted for your religion if you don’t live in a place like Afganistan?
Wait….wait….sorry, it was my Progressive Socialist side trying inject even more intellectual dishonesty into the conversation.
Report Post »shariah_dies_in_America
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 7:40pmPlease God forgive me for imagining the brutal beatings I would like to put on the despicable people like Mr. Gaddy, but sometimes there disgraceful lies and rehtoric can drive a man insane!
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 8:58pmWe will not be persecuted too much or someone will end up worse than persecuted. Christians are not all into turning the other cheek as some who are more saintly, meek and mild. Good for them. We need them to keep us all toned down. There are a few things where people will die for and Faith being one of them. You all watch how much the white, black, yellow and brown Christians hang together in one Spirit and one accord. You will see how good aligns itself with its own agains those who line up on the side of evil. Our battle is already won. So when the big mouths keep yelling about first one thing or another and go back to refresh themselves and bask in their hedonism. See who comes out on top. We always do, the Christians who have God as their leader.
Report Post »MJR
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:23pmCorrect he pushes his own version of “christianity”
Report Post »Onowicit
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:17pmJudas! Thanks for telling the media that Christians are persecuted. Thanks for making it easier for them. I wonder how much you got paid for your telling your side of things. What will you do with the money. Sleep well may your dreams be…….. there is no place like home ……….
Report Post »Drives Like Jehu
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 2:03amThe eyes are the window into the soul; look at “reverend” c. welton gaddy’s eyes. (By the way, most Baptist ministers prefer the title “Pastor”…“Reverend” is used by the self-righteous lefties.)
Report Post »snooop1e
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 12:25pmRachel Maddow is a professed Lesbian who lives the homosexual lifestyle. Why is this “Pastor” appearing on her show and ignoring the 500 lb gorilla in the room? How can a “Pastor” sit with someone who admits to living the homosexual lifestyle and discuss morality while completely ignoring the fact that she is living a lifestyle that is sinful in the eyes of God? What “Baptist” faith accepts Homosexuality?
Report Post »BurntBacon
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:32pmFirst, Interfaith is NOT a Christian organization. Christian churches and organizations believe that Jesus Christ is who He said he is. Second, if there is no religious persecution, why is Interfaith on a Mission to “protect religious liberty.”
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:56pmNo persecution of those in the majority is not the same thing as no persecution.
Report Post »majasdad
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 4:03pmGod your thick. Interfaith is on a mission to protect the religious liberty of people of ALL faiths, you bonehead.
Report Post »ChildofJesus
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:31pmcompared to what other countries go through, i’d say what we face has been very light. but i believe it’s to prepare us for worse if we bear it with grace and courage drawing near to God in all manner of affliction. and i see an uproar from christians who haven‘t been through what we’ve heard these past few months. Prayer and studying the word and living within Jesus day by day is what we must do. not worrying about tomorrow for each day has enough trouble of its own. I can only hope that when intense persecution does come here that we all remain as cunning as snakes and innocent like doves, being salt and light to the world.
Report Post »AlwysReady
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 8:23pmYou are correct childofJesus, keep praying and reading and studying the Word, Jesus Christ is the only “name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.” He is the way out of the persecution and evil that is soon coming on the Earth.
Report Post »Focus on Jesus and renew your mind each day, we will win the battle, but we must focus on the now. I am proud to have my brothers and sisters in the Lord out here letting people know the truth. Hallelujah.
Dwilson
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:25pmThis guy(Gaddy) said “There is no real danger of Sharia law being imposed on America at large. ” By that statement alone we can judge his character. People like him make me want to punch a ferret in the neck!!!
Report Post »db321
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:53pmInterfaith Alliance recently announced its opposition to legislation currently before the Florida Senate, which would ban the use of foreign law, including Sharia, Islamic law, in courts. Interfaith Alliance has been a leader in efforts to combat anti-Muslim bigotry, prevent unnecessary legislation such as that in Florida – IA is not a Christian Organization – why would the want Sharia “Satan’s” Law in Florida.
I knew I could disprove IA – It’s R. Maddow’s Church – I can tell by her word and deed that she is not a Christian. It took me 5 min to find out that my hunch was correct. I am not judging – I just don’t believe her – God “WILL” Judge her as well as “ALL” on Judgement day – including Obama, Mohammed, Beck, Limbaugh – “ALL” and we all will answer for our sins. Acting like a Christian Organization and promoting Sharia is a Sin – - it is Satanic – it is blasphemy – it is an abomination.
Report Post »thegreatcarnac
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:54pm‘punch a ferret in the neck’…….lol. never heard that one.
Report Post »ScottHK
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:56pmThis, so called, baptist is definately not a baptist by any measure.
Report Post »Look up their website by reading it you will see that they hold to very minor points of agreement with traditional baptist faith positions.
It is a typical Liberal Progressive group acting as if they are real baptists and conservatives.
His religous background is fraud, so are his politics and theology
blackyb
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:00pmThe wolves in sheeps’ clothing professing Christianity. God’s people can discern the Truth.
Report Post »Griffin06
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:54pmLooking at their website, it is rather obvious that this is not a Christian organization. Therefore, it should come as no surprise that they are not sympathetic toward Christians.
Report Post »Infidel49
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:51pmSomeone tries to trample on my freedom to Worship will have a big surprise. I will not turn the other cheek. Like Robert Conrad said in his battery commercial years ago, “go ahead, I dare ya”.
Report Post »Best_Patriot
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:55pmNo one is trampling your freedom to worship. You are buying into a manufactured controversy, courtesy of your $hepherd Glenn Beck. Good luck with that.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:32pmQuit lying Best_Patriot. You lefties bring up frivolous lawsuits all the time to try to silence freedom of speech and freedom of religion so that your voting blocs aren’t offended.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:41pm@BEST
I respectfully disagree that this is a manufactured point of view.
Ridicule is a form of persecution – it shows a lack of respect. True, we aren’t being jailed or hung in the public square, but we are constantly being belittled.
I am free to worship as I please – but for how long? Will there come a day when I can’t speak about my religion for fear of offending someone?
As far as the “$hepard” comment, it was cute.
Report Post »Sh3LLz
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 8:57amSo… Let me get this straight. You just said, “I will not turn the other cheek”.
So in your “worship” you will DELIBERATELY DISOBEY Jesus Christ???
Wow.. False christianity at is worst….. Hypocrisy at its best….
Report Post »freedom4ever
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:46pmwhere has he been? even in my own home i was put down for praying by a liberal! he is crazy – guess he will be one who will feed the garbage to the people when the christians are rounded up!
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:38pmTechnically he is correct, that God could be completely removed from society, but to the truly Godly it doesn’t matter. If people would slowly read John even his Epistles in the Bible they would understand. Because when God is in someone then it doesn‘t matter to the one who has God in them if it isn’t outside, but it should matter to the people who don’t have God, because God reaps even where he hasn’t sown. Technically, it is the people who really want to hold onto God outside themselves who don’t have God in themselves.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:45pmBut on the other hand, how many Americans really have God in them right now, because we are entering the times foretold by the Prophets, and I don‘t see anyone telling soldiers to stop fighting unless you count the people who don’t even know God telling people to stop fighting.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:48pmMen will do what men do which is carnage, all the while the godly slip away to the higher ground.
Report Post »LeadNotFollow
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:38pm…
Report Post »Christians all over the world, including America, are being persecuted.
In other countries, many people are being slaughtered, just for being Christians.
The slaughtering is coming soon to America, if the Muslim wins a second term.
Wake up people.
blackyb
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:03pmYou are right. They are all over the world being persecuted and many of those persecutors are trying to enter this country and carry this on for one reason or the other. It is not us they hate, but God, the creator and evil is trying to take as many people to hell in these days as possible. They have already lost the war. Every move that is being made in this country is to silence the Christians and those who are trying to keep order and the law in this country.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:36pmChristians in America are not being jailed or killed for their belief yet but Christianity is under attack here. There has been an escalation in antiChristian and antiJew sentiment in this country.
Report Post »If I were a member of Rev. Gaddy’s church I would leave based on his ignorance and blindness of the events in this country.
cookcountypatriot
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:36pmalot of people call themselves pastor or reverend…hmmmmmmmm lets see…jim wallis,jerimiah wright.and then theres the twins…sharpton and jackson…and they all peddle hate…and they all seem to be on msnbc…REAL CHRISTIANS are not fooled…just remember JESUS is coming ,,and im sure he,s pissed.
Report Post »Docrow
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:33pmNot sure what Interfaith Alliance is all about but I do know that if it‘s not about Jesus Christ it’s not worth much and the same goes for this pastor.
Interfaith Alliance
Report Post »http://www.interfaithalliance.org/
Best_Patriot
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:32pmWhat a bunch of clowns you all are. Really? Because this reverend brings up some good points, you all assume he’s anti-American or whatever? You people are unhinged. I‘m glad you’ll have no power after this election.
Christians are NOT persecuted in this country. They run it. Derp derp. Go to Iran and declare your Christian faith in the town square. THEN you’ll see persecution. Bunch of dingbats.
Report Post »Realist4U
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:41pmCan’t see the “forest through the trees” eh?
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:45pm‘Best’ Patriot…you left out Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt with Muslim mobs persecuting people in those countries. I know, I’ve been to those places multiple times. Christians in our Nation are persecuted…look at it this way, Hollywood/Media constantly ridicules the Faith, towns/business outlaw the use of the word Christmas, I could go on but you get the drift I hope. As for the election next year, if you think Barry O will win it, well your delusional…as for your use of the term ‘derpderp’,proves your an idiot child at best.Have a pleasant and rewarding day.
Report Post »Best_Patriot
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:53pm@Mark – “ridicule” by actors is not “persecution.” What are you, 12 years old?
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:20pmRidicule by an established group that influences Policy/law makers is not a concern to you?..you really are as stupid as you sound…read my statement again slowly…thanx for playing.
Report Post »UnGreen
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 6:18pmWhy don’t you just go and get your free abortion and shut your pie hole.
Report Post »Observer
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:04pmBest_Patriot so it has come to this now ‘ clowns, $, 12 year old’s, go to (insert name), unhinged, no power’ glad that you are so enlightening with your rebuttal in favor of a baptist. Now lets see, you stated that the Reverends only encouraging points, words, or thoughts are basically what? I missed that point in your comments. Don’t despair we can judge him by what he says and judge you by what you write. Like the great script writers that come from Hollywood USA with the words that actors speak. These writers are showing us the path that Shepherd Beck refuses to lead us onto. Into the progressive night of no more questioning, no more opinions, no more Truth, Justice, and the American way. We with our red noses and big shoes are surrounded by the Reverends from MSNBC with their good logic that puts our Islamic neighbours to shame. Forcing a fight, using their logic for an Agoy to double under in shame. As C. Shepherd of Proposition 8 fame and T. J. Hanks with his dreamy voice overs the problem with America is based on everyone but them. Sob … (wipe tear)… so how can we as 12 year old’s compete with your great intellect? By the way I love your picture of that magnificent beast you have in front of your post. I’m just sorry you had to chop off the right side of the picture. The side that clearly illustrates who you really are…..the colour is blue.
Report Post »krispy01
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:30pmInterfaith Alliance president, that right there speaks volumes as to where he is coming from.
Report Post »Ivo Dude
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 9:09pmFrom whence he comes; do you really believe there is time and energy for an organized political conspiracy against Christians in the US?
Report Post »Gypsy123
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:28pmHe is probably with the churches that are part of the WH spiritual advisors. If you look deep enough you will find the connection
Report Post »the wireworker
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:05pmDr. Gaddy is a regular contributor to mainstream and religious news outlets.
Rev. Gaddy currently serves on the White House task-force on the reform of the Office of Faith Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.
Report Post »G man
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:28pmLiar, fool or both.
Report Post »Realist4U
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:40pmboth!
Report Post »MadenNZ
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:27pmLook I am a Christian and I cringed at Pastor Dennis Terry’s rant…he had a little too much adrenaline going that day. His words were pretty disrespectful to other good religious, law abiding Americans. This country protects religious freedoms and the Southern Baptist Pastor – Dennis Terry sure sounded like he didn’t agree.
Report Post »MadenNZ
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:38pmHowever…I don’t agree with Rev. C. Welton Gaddy, there is a huge War on Christian values and faith in this country, but thank heavens it pales in comparison to Christians face in the Mid East, Parts of Europe and Asia. I’d rather stay where I am.
Report Post »Realist4U
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:44pmSounds like you‘re trying to stifle Pastor Dennis Terry’s religious freedoms, to me.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:33pmRealist4U – If anybody is trying to take away freedom of religion, it’s you lefties. You have to sue anybody who says or does anything that you don’t like.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:34pmI’m sorry Realist4U. I thought you were on the left wing side. I misread what you posted.
Report Post »Gypsy123
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:27pmYou can’t believe everyone who says they are a pastor anymore than those who call them selves christian go to the web site for this pastor
Report Post »Social and Economic Justice jumps out at you
kickagrandma
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:26pmJust came from a noon gathering of people in our county who met to stand for and to pray for religious freedom in our country. The spokesperson for our small group would say, “Hello, I’m standing/we’re standing here today for Freedom of Religion in America. Would you like (or may I give you) this information? Perhaps twenty people passed by.
Out of those twenty, only three (THREE) seemed happy to hear that. Many were abrupt in their, “No’s” and one young entitled uppity woman argued every thing we put in front of her. She was fast, slick, pretty, well educated (?) and totally lost (eternally speaking). She seemed proud of herself and the lies she has been taught and believes.
YES, the CHRISTIANS IN AMERICA are too persecuted. It is starting, folks. PRAY ON.
Again, I recommend The Harbinger…. It is about Israel’s destruction and ours. It is real
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:51pmSomething else I meant to mention is that real CHRISTIANS are not just being persecuted on the streets or in civic groups, or in restaurants where they bow their heads in prayer over the meal they are about to share together. We are also vilified within our churches and denominations.
CHRIST JESUS told us we should not be surprised when these things happen. The world hated HIM and it surely will hate us. The GOOD NEWS is HE knows.
Report Post »Polarized America
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:10pmif you don’t mind….. what is your denomination ?
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 4:21pmNot only were people completely uninterested in hearing about the horrible persecution of Christians In the United States, but they also refused to contribute canned goods to feed the Kardashians, or sign a petition to put rats on the endangered species list.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:35pmChet Hempstead – You mean how most Americans don’t care about the so-called persecution of Muslims or atheists in this country? LOL
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 8:07pmGit-R-Done
Report Post »Most Americans don’t care about anything that doesn’t affect them personally, but most of the rest of us are ashamed and saddened that a few of our fellow Americans would seek to strip Muslims of their rights of freedom of religion and free assembly.
Gypsy123
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:26pmYou can’t believe everyone who calls them selves baptist. If you look up this pastors web site
Report Post »Social and Economic Justice jumps out at you that says it all
Gypsy123
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:21pmHe has got his head in the sand and his eyes are not open to the truth. Interesting and he is a pastor and a blind one.
Report Post »Jezreel
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:18pmThe news does not report incidences of persecution in our country. “All those who live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution”. I know that our country does have yet to be like the countrys that hate Christians and if we do nothing, it will soon be. There is a lot of hatred in our country for Jesus. Organized religion and denominations that are the system of religion is reponsible party for the hypocrisy and evil that it has blackened the name of Jesus Christ. People experience persecution in their own families. Jesus said, “I have not come to bring peace but a sword. A man’s enemies will be of his own household. Father will be against son, mother against daughter, son in law against father in law and so the list goes on.” Unsaved and unregenerated hearts in your own family will mistreat those who are truly His.
Report Post »alowe000
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:21pm“Organized religion and denominations that are the system of religion is reponsible party for the hypocrisy and evil that it has blackened the name of Jesus Christ. ”
As opposed to disorganized religion?
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:16pmPeople in Iraq and Afghanistan are persecuted, beaten and mutilated in the name of ISLAM.
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:13pmI knew there were several different sects of Baptist Churches, but I didn’t know that “disingenuous, leftist whacko” was one of them.
Report Post »IronSights
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:29pm‘He also dismissed the notion that there is a war on religion and claimed that one can truly remove God from society.”
Someone must have tore Genesis out of his copy of the bible. Wasnt’ there the whole Sodom and Gomorrah, Godless (other than Lot), and the whole region turned to ashes. Wasn’t their issue a case of having no God in their society? Just sayin
Report Post »Best_Patriot
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:34pmSo anyone who is not your fake and strange brand of “conservatism” is automatically a “leftist?” You’re a clown.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:09pmBEST_PATRIOT,
Report Post »“So anyone who is not your fake and strange brand of “conservatism” is automatically a “leftist?” You’re a clown.”
No, those who prove themselves to be anything other than conservative are literally not conservative. The Interfaith Alliance, and Interfaith Alliance Foundation are a bit to the left of center if you do any research. I don’t consider them left wing extremist in any way, but certainly not conservative either.
beachbumz
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 3:47pmWe’ll I happen to have been in a church meeting with two or churches attending. The American Baptist took a stand against the bible. Our church pulled it’s membership from the American baptist.So yes there is even a left and right in the baptist church. Now about myself, Who says American Christians are not being persecuted. I’m in the middle of a battle that could loose my Mother, Brother and Sisters over, I would call that persucution, even within the church. Satan loves it. Luke 14:26 Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
Report Post »“Whoever comes to me and does not hate his father and his mother and his brothers and his sisters and his wife and his children and even himself, he cannot be my disciple.”