Bark but No Bite? AP Says House Dems Will Accept Tax Compromise
- Posted on December 9, 2010 at 8:38am by
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Slowly, painfully and reluctantly, congressional Democrats are slogging their way toward acceptance of President Barack Obama’s tax cut compromise, which would let rich and poor Americans keep Bush-era tax cuts that were scheduled to expire this month.
After Obama publicly defended the plan for a third day Wednesday, and Vice President Joe Biden met with Democratic lawmakers in the Capitol for a second day, several Democrats predicted the measure will pass, mainly because of extensive Republican support.
Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., predicted the tax cut compromise “will be passed by virtually all the Republicans and a minority of Democrats.” He said he would vote against it.
Even among Democrats, “there’s more support in the caucus than there appears,” Rep. Gerald Connolly of Virginia told reporters after he and fellow Democrats met with Biden. “I think some people felt they had to vent.”
Obama said more congressional Democrats would climb aboard as they studied details of the $900 billion year-end measure.
Raising the direst alarm yet, his administration warned fellow Democrats that if they defeat the plan, they could jolt the nation back into recession.
Larry Summers, Obama’s chief economic adviser, told reporters that if the measure isn’t passed soon, it will “materially increase the risk the economy would stall out and we would have a double-dip” recession. That put the White House in the unusual position of warning its own party’s lawmakers they could be to blame for calamitous consequences if they go against the president.
With many House and Senate Republicans signaling their approval of the tax cut plan, the White House‘s comments were aimed mainly at House Democrats who feel Obama went too far in yielding to Republicans’ demands for continued income tax cuts and lower estate taxes for the wealthy.
Obama says the compromise was necessary because Republicans were prepared to let everyone‘s taxes rise and to block the extension of unemployment benefits for jobless Americans if they didn’t get much of what they wanted.
Economists say the recent recession officially ended in June 2009. But with unemployment at 9.8 percent, millions remain out of work or fearful of losing ground economically, and the notion of the nation falling back into a recession would strike many as chilling. It also could rattle markets and investors.
The deal Obama crafted with Senate Republican leaders would prevent the scheduled Dec. 31 expiration of all the Bush administration’s tax cuts enacted in 2001 and 2003, even though Obama had often promised to end the cuts for the highest earners.
House Democrats, who will lose their majority in January, still hold a 255-179 edge in the current Congress. To pass a big bill with mostly Republican votes would mark a dramatic departure from recent battles, such as the health care overhaul, which was enacted with virtually no GOP support in either chamber.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other House Democratic leaders remained outwardly neutral to the tax cut compromise, criticizing some aspects but stopping short of urging or predicting its demise.
After the meeting with Biden, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said he still had reservations about the package, indicating he hopes changes are made before the Senate acts.
“We’ll see what the Senate passes,” Hoyer said.
Biden took a tough stance, warning that any changes might unravel the compromise plan, said several House Democrats who attended the meeting. “The vice president said, ‘This is the deal, take it or leave it,’” said Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif.
The White House ballyhooed almost any elected Democrat who endorsed the tax plan, with no state or city too small to justify a press release. Vermont Gov. Jim Douglas and Charlotte, N.C., Mayor Anthony Foxx were among those praising the plan, the White House announced.
But many House Democrats were unmoved. They particularly criticized Obama’s proposed estate tax rates, which are far more generous than most Democrats had expected.
The concession seemed gratuitous, said Rep. David Price, D-N.C. For now, he said, “there’s a mood to resist” the overall package.
Passage of Obama’s plan seems more assured in the Senate, where numerous Democrats have agreed that the president had little choice in making the compromises with Republicans. Still, Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said he and colleagues are considering possible changes, and action could come within days.
Changes designed to ease some Democrats’ concerns might include a provision for bonds to help state and local governments pay for construction projects, tax breaks for wind power and clean-energy subsidies, lawmakers said.
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RegularAmericansCombatingInsiduousSocialistTakeover
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 8:35pmGlenn,
OK OK OK ..We hear you. We hear Rush, We Hear Mark Levin, We Hear Sean Hannity, We hear Laura I, We hear Michael Medved, We Hear Michael Savage. All of it is talk talk talk talk. Unless we take action! ( All the folks like you with a listening or viewing audience must create a common forum!)
They ( The progressives ) are acting in addition to talking. Help us set up a place on the web like the 912 project where we can all go to to set up the “Peaceful Posse’s” who can go out and spread the word and rally folks ( Friends and neighbors as you call them on your TV show) across cities and towns across America.
Yes, “we surround them” but they have the media and the network to mobilize their base. We need your help to help us all connect and lock arms and become a Patriotic Connective Community before the net is shut down or talk radio is silenced. You already have the connection apparatus in place and the bully pulpit is there to help us. Lets get moving. Help set it up,
Remember how all those folks who wanted to come to 828 could connect on the web to find a ride ? Well now we need that kind of common message board so every town and every city can have a common place to go to, to read about plans to rally. (Some internet site to go to which can be like like the place that a kid is told to go to if they are lost at an amusement park) We need a common link and with your 30 million listener foot print you can help provide it.
OK sure… you can quote George Washington… but no our good friend…. you have not given enough!!
Thoughts from all of you who read the Blaze ??
NO TIME TO WASTE!
Glenn
Report Post »Midwest Belle
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 8:24pmHas anyone noticed anything wrong with the Blaze in the last couple of hours??
Report Post »AAW
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 4:54pmIt seems that many many do not get it!! There IS NO tax cut! It is only an attempt to keep the same tax rate that it is NOW. PLEASE use the correct terminology. And as it is, many will still see that they will be paying much more in tax AND insurance, etc., etc., etc. …….
Report Post »Air~Biscuit
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 8:13pmYes,and the sheep are asleep in the barn. Gettin SCREWED face on by one party or SCREWED from the rear by the other party———–YOU are still SCREWED——-
Report Post »sbenard
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 2:28pmThe problem with this tax compromise is that it doesn’t do anything to reduce spending. It INCREASES the deficit by an additional $900 billion over two years. And that’s in addition to a projected deficit this year of $1.3 trillion. This is what has sent bonds/treasuries tanking and interest rates skyrocketing over the past few days. The bond vigilantes are just beginning to awaken to the possibility of a US debt default. Here’s a little perspective:
Total federal income tax receipts 2010: $900 billion
Total federal payroll tax receipts 2010: $900 billion
Total projected 2010 deficit (w/tax compromise): $1.75 trillion
Thus, the deficit for this year is almost equivalent to the total tax receipts for the year. Corporate income tax receipts are only about $189 billion. The interest alone on the debt is TWICE that amount! This compromise tax deal is only going to make the deficit MUCH worse. We must learn to accept HUGE spending cuts (30-40%) or we’ll collapse our economy and government within the next few years. Prepare yourselves, my friends, because I still don’t see the will in Washington to deal with the true magnitude of the debt crisis. It’s going to get MUCH worse!
Massive increases are coming for food and energy prices in 2011, probably by early Spring. Commodity prices have been rising 20-80% for agricultural products (grain, meat, milk, etc.), and the typical lag time is about 6-9 months before prices hit the grocery stores. Best to stock up now if you can. Food will cost much more six months from now! MUCH more!
Report Post »rbagala
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 2:04pmThese far left Democrats are being dragged kicking and screaming to adhere to a President who is slyly moving to a more moderate level with, most likely, a hope of a second term.
Report Post »But articles like this only highlight that all these Democrats who will reluctantly vote in the extension of the Bush tax cuts will not be able to save their jobs come 2012.
The American public are not only aware of their duplicity but are disgusted to the extent that their removal from office will be replaced by representatives that are conservative to the extreme and knock out all the bills that the Democrats have passed or have wished such as the “dream act”.
TruthMakesYouFree
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 12:32pmEXCUSE me,,, but did the democrats OWN the House, Senate, and the Presidency for 2 years? If they just wanted to get the tax rates increased on people over $250,000, why did they not do that? They had two years to raise everybody’s taxes,, and they were going to raise EVERYBODYS taxes come January, but the election changed their comfort zone, so they wanted to come out like they were for the little people by saying they wanted to give the “middle class tax cuts”….. there are NO TAX CUTS FOR ANYBODY BEING VOTED ON,,,,,, only voting to not RAISE THE TAXES,,,, but THE DEMOCRAT can only blame themselves, they had it in their court with overwhelming majorities in all branches of Government, but they were too interested in passing the “stimulas-fraud for friend fund” and the ObAmAcArE to destroy this nations health care system,,,, if THAT elephant is not dealt with, we are in trouble,,, nahhhh, my bad,,,, America will be in trouble,,, My Home Is In Heaven, My Citizenship Is Out Of This World,,, and SOON,,, The Born Again Believers In Jesus Christ Will Be Home,,, Not Looking For A Sign,, I’m Listening For A SHOUT,,, A VOICE,,, A TRUMP,,,, RaptureReady,, Hope You Are
Report Post »ae7iv
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 12:18pmEverybody, say it with me… “Double-Dip recession”
Report Post »Polbut
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 11:21amI see the left is still eating its young today?
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 10:36amOKAY, this is a joke! They can PUSH through the NIGHTMARE DREAM ACT, but they turn around and BLAME the Repbublicans for “holding Americans hostage” over the tax increases if the Bush policy continues? THEY STILL have TOTAL control last time I looked? Obama is playing “good cop, bad cop” with us. Talking compromise now? Why? He wants ANOTHER term. Don’t let this “the left is mad at him” crap fool you! If he gets re-elected again, we’re DOOMED! He’s SETTING US UP people. BEWARE of the snake oil salesman as he misrepresents his product!
Report Post »Gunonesis
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 9:55amCommunist, socialist, Marxist, progressive, liberal, democrat-the words are interchangeable. Beware of Obama, this commie administration, and any phony moderate head-fakes. The community organizer in-chief is a radical punk and couldn’t lead his way out of a paper bag. At least 70 members of Congress admit belonging to the Democratic Socialists of America, but that number is believed to be as high as 82. Their ultimate goal remains the downfall of America and the constitution as we know it with the implementation of their a radical socialist agenda. These pathetic dirtbags must be crushed in 2012.
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NickDeringer
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 9:53am“Economists say the recent recession officially ended in June 2009.”
Really? Why wasn’t I told?
Viva! Everybody dance!!!
Report Post »GulfPeg
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 9:51amThis goes to show that the ******** actually do believe that CAPITALISM works. :) They just need more entitlements so they can have more votes.
Report Post »jdog777
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 9:42amThe compromise is CRAP!!! The death tax gets reinstituted at 35% and Dividends get taxed at 39% form 15%. Wait for the new Congress and then get a tax bill rolling. The bottom rung of income earners will be on the warpath with a 50% tax hike… they will be out for blood… and it will be the Progressives fault. The Senate will vote for anything at that point.
Report Post »TwoMinuteMan
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 9:22amI kind of wish they would let the tax cuts expire. The country would go into a nose dive. Unemployment would hit 20% and businesses would close their doors.
After the Republicans made another tax bill LOWER than the current one and save the country from out of control taxation there would never be a democrat majority in either the congress or senate ever again. The democrats would be exposed for the money grubbing spendaholics they always have been and we would get back to the rule of law, the constitution and the economic foundation that has made the USA the greatest country in the world.
I know some of the RINOs would still be around but they will be much easier to deal with.
Report Post »rbqueen
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 9:12amI’m all for keeping the tax cuts but like I heard someone say. Instead of compromising on extending temporary tax cuts with permanent increased spending, they need to focus on permanent tax cuts and temporary spending allowances.
Report Post »OneRepublic4us
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 10:07amHow about this translation: Keep the current tax rates and fire all of congress in two years if they can’t reduce government spending PERMANENTLY?
Report Post »Nepalm
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 9:04amI am all confused now.
If tax cuts are government spending, then remainder and unconfiscated portion of your income must also be government spending. All wealth and income must be property of the state before it is property of the individual who worked to earn it. Letting people keep money is government spending and “cutting spending” means to raise taxes. It took me a long time to figure out Democrats and this belief system.
But now I’m all confused. How are Democrats cutting spending if they are not raising taxes? Even by their own definition that says letting people have money is government spending? Now I have the rug pulled out from under me and don’t understand how a Democrat acts to cut spending. I think this must mean that Democrats will not move to cut spending no matter how you define “spending.”
And I also don’t know how Obama says Republicans are riding but only in the back of the bus and now we hear they are driving the bus and holding the passengers as hostages? I don’t understand Obama because nothing he says is true compared to what he said just recently.
I’ve heard of DINO (Democrat in name only) and RINO (Republican in name only). Obama is a PINO.
Report Post »OneRepublic4us
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 9:55amPINO, that is just too funny (at least it would be if it weren’t so true!)
Report Post »OneRepublic4us
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 10:04am….also I am sick and tired of the stupid analogies. I like John Boehner because he doesn’t mince words, just like Chris Christie. I’ve discovered after two years of listening to Obama I just want him to stop talking around a subject, quit babbling and just FREAKING SPIT IT OUT!
Report Post »Conserving Ink
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 9:03amObama wants the bill passed so it’ll pass the same way Obamacare did, with all kinds of back room deals.
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Nepalm
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 9:16amI think this leads Obama into being in trouble where he ends up making everybody unhappy and after this nobody will trust him. Now the whole country has at least one reason to not trust him. So I disagree and think it is best for Obama if this bill does not have success that can be associated with his efforts.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 8:57amSince Bawney is not going to vote for the bill, then that way he can stay home with his boyfriend.
Report Post »rbqueen
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 9:09am@heavyduty
Report Post »Actually, instead of staying home with his boyfriend, he will probably be trying to ensure that he gets his new job working for the TSA at the airport screening area doing the full body pat-downs.
NHABE64
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 8:55amI wonder at what point the Democrat Party changed its name to the Liberal Progressive Socialist Party of America. I think the whole lot of these left wing cockroaches should be drummed out of office and without unemployment benefits. Oh yes, I forgot they have life time annuiites voted on by themselves for themselves. I guess the doube digit unemployment won’t bother these thieves and scoundrels.
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 8:54amTHE LEFT REPUDIATES MR. OBAMA?
Report Post »Recently, the media has been filled with stories of the left repudiating President Obama. He is being condemned by the left because of his inability to stamp out the last remnants of individual liberty after almost 2 years in office. According to the news reports the left considers this incompetence. Ridiculous! The real underlying message is that if the left is dissatisfied with Mr. Obama, then he can’t be all that bad, can he? This is a rather transparent effort to convince the gullible that Mr. Obama is not the wannabe tyrant his actions show him to be.
Do not be duped by this media blitz. Every proposal that Mr. Obama has initiated is aimed at oppression of the individual, destruction of the remainder of our Capitalistic system and increasing the power of the wannabe tyrants.
As tyranny always begets poverty and despair that will certainly be the result of Mr. Obama’s proposals
This is just another example of the use of the “preponderance of propaganda”! The wannabe tyrants and their cronies are publicizing lies, half-truths and the irrelevant to avoid a discussion of the issues. Pay no attention to the smokescreen.
When the premise is false the only arguments that can be used are fear mongering, emotion, sarcasm, ridicule, attacking the messenger and misrepresentation of the facts (lying). Those who expect to reap huge profits from our misery caused by tyranny are experts at these tactics.
The only relevant issue is freedom or tyranny!!!! http://commonsense21c.com/
bookofwisdom
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 9:49amWell Said. I could not have said it as well. Be afraid America. Be very afraid. Obama may make you think he is turning, but there is no way a leopard changes it spots, and neither does he. Obama will always be an enemy of We The People and our Constitution. Watch and see what he has up his sleeve before believing he is changing. May God Bless.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 8:52amI hope the bill fails. Because if it does the Democrats will be blamed and it will be just one more black (can I use that term?) mark against them. Sometimes you just can’t fix STUPIDITY. Is it me or has anyone else noticed that it takes politicians forever to pass a bill, until it gets close to a holiday or something. Then they seem to pass things within a couple of hours or days. You can’t read and debate a bill in a couple of days. And the Democrats are adding amedments and extras on to the bill. So they can get there Christmas bonus.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 9:01amI’m inclined to follow that, In the commie world everything has a purpose and this is no different. They are setting up some point here as well. Watch the other hand as they have something in mind ahead that they need your sympathy and or support to pull off. It could be the re-election set up like Clinton.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 8:44amThey should have gone into a closet, shut the door, and vented instead of doing it on tv and looking like idiots.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 8:54amSorry Grandmaof5: But whether they are in a closet or not, they are still idiots. You have a good Christmas and hug those grandchildren.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 8:56amIsn’t it fun watching their tortured contortions though?
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 10:18amGonzo,
No! Although I am glad they are in plain sight I can not stand the same lies and spiel over and over again. Same with Fox News panels… I change the channel when Beckels, Juan Williams, Lamont and Kirsten Powers (and others) are on. Their nonsense is so “far out there” that I have to change the channel or turn the TV off. That is why I typically watch “Beck” or get my news from the internet or radio. The left is so far left I do not know why they even have them on these shows. It’s like saying “We are fair and balanced and tonight we have a fair debate panel between Chavez, Castro and Regan…stay tuned for this fair and balanced debate”. That ain’t fair that is two completely different schools, theories and beliefs. Time to stop this nonsense of Commies as “fair debates” and put on these panels differing opinions of people that LOVE America instead of differing opinions of people that HATE America.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 11:29amCESSNA, I have to disagree with you on this one, you don’t want to go into battle blind. It is always a good thing to know what the enemy is thinking. I would rather get thier rantings from thier own mouths than have it repeated to me by someone else. Besides they can’t deny they said it if you were sitting right there hearing it for yourself.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 11:31amAw jeez,
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Gonzo
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 8:42amMust be a case of stockholm syndrome after being under the control of the “hostage takers” for too long.
Report Post »Konservative PUNK
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 8:41amDemocrats will never change. When they see a bill that is likely to pass, they start tacking on all kinds of wasteful spending.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 11:06amNo kidding, all they can talk about is how much income they can confiscate from hard working Americans and they NEVER say a word about cutting spending. God they’re dense. The death tax is illegal as hell anyways, as the taxes on all the inheritance have already been paid. Double taxation is fowl play.
Report Post »Konservative PUNK
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 11:35amLOL foul too!
Report Post »GeauxAlready
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 8:40amThey are going to buy votes to get this passed. They are not comming for free…………..
Report Post »Shurmus
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 8:44amThey’re just trying to save their own skins…the writing is on the wall, and although most politicians are stupid, they can read.
http://www.slugbuddies.com
Report Post »FED-UP-AND-READY-TO-TAKE-ACTION
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 8:54amWhile there may be a few who are really upset about this, I still think it is a BIG SHAM. The left wants to look all mad and such. Makes Obama look like the good guy who is willing to sacrifice himself for the “good” of the people. They want to make it look as though he is willing to not only go against the Republicans but even his own party for the good of America. There will some people who will fall for this…….but more who have vision will not.
I think the Dems are trying to at least get something out of a losing situation as in getting Obama credit for 2012……………….VICTORY OR DEATH
Report Post »AnnMarie
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 9:26amI am just so disgusted with this group. They are concerned about the deficit in this case regarding the taxes.. However, they have no problem passing a bill to send illegal kids to school. It doesn’t matter if they serve in the military or whatever they are using as a piece of candy to pass this. Most of them will apply for financial aid and who pays for this and how is this going to affect the applications of US citizens? They need to become citizens the way all others behind them have… period….
Report Post »Konservative PUNK
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 9:35amA lame-Duck Congress should not have power to create tax policy, as this falls under ‘TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION’. THESE CLOWNS are NOT currently ‘Elected Representatives’.
Report Post »79USMC83
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 10:33amWatching the “Speech Giver” the last three days it seems that HE is the angriest of them all!! WE THE PEOPLE spoke up during the elections. The Tea Partiers were all angry RACIST because they rallied against tyranny. Now WE THE PEOPLE are hostages to the very people WE THE PEOPLE have chosen to take care of US because are anger was ignored by the Dems,Proggresives,Socialist and Communist that certain districts elect to represent them!! I am not so upset with Pelosi,Reid,Frank,Weiner and the rest of these TRAITORS. I am beside myself by the people in their districts that elect them!!! So it is OK for these POLITICIANS to be angry but it is NOT right for WE THE PEOPLE!!! This TAX CUT is not enough for many of WE THE PEOPLE it is the same old “Government Stupid” cutting PARTY deals!! FAIR TAX NOW !!! TERM LIMITS NOW!!
Report Post »FED-UP-AND-READY-TO-TAKE-ACTION
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 10:47am79USMA,
Good post……………………… VICTORY OR DEATH
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 11:03am@79usmc
Great post and dead on; we need to limit these folks time in office, have a fair tax revenue system, and get rid of the lame duck sessions – keep them meeting for only a few days each year and then send them back to the areas they represent. Just as the founders sought to have.
The one thing really needing to be abolished is the system in which people become ‘career politicians’ and the thought of politics needing people to have ‘careers’ in it is revolting to me.
Also, with this tax cuts, and the extention (again) of the unemployment, I will actually believe it when I see it happen – most likely it will, yet sometimes stranger things have happened.
Report Post »docvet
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 12:53pmI still wonder why Obama has moved so easily to the center. Is it because that in the next two years the thinks there will be a communist symbol in place of the stars on our flag and what he does now doesn’t matter plus it keeps the sheeple pacified?
The same with keeping so many troops in Afganistan and Iraq: fewer troops available in the U.S. to handle riots.
Obama doesn’t do anything unless it promotes his socialist agenda. If he is re-elected in 2012, he will have an additional four years, without having to be concerned about re-election, to finish his move to reduce the U.S. to a shadow of its former self. I’m still convinced he is an America/England hater. Hope I’m wrong.
Whats the other hand doing?????????
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