Battle Brews After RI Governor Calls the State‘s ’Christmas Tree‘ a ’Holiday Tree’
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Rhode Island Gov. Lincoln Chafee
PROVIDENCE, R.I. (The Blaze/AP) — The battle over holiday versus Christmas trees continues to rage on. First, an epic battle was underway in Wisconsin. Now, Rhode Island is the new epicenter, with the state’s governor deciding that “Christmas” isn’t an inclusive enough title.
On Tuesday, the state’s top leader said that lawmakers upset with his decision to call the blue spruce erected in the Statehouse a “holiday tree” instead of a “Christmas tree” should focus their energy on feeding the poor.
According to Gov. Lincoln Chafee, calling the tree a “holiday tree” instead of a “Christmas tree” is in keeping with Rhode Island’s founding in 1636 by religious dissident Roger Williams as a haven for tolerance, where government and religion were kept separate.
“I would encourage all those engaged in this discussion – whatever their opinion on the matter – to use their energy and enthusiasm to make a positive difference in the lives of their fellow Rhode Islanders,” Chafee said, offering an initiative to feed the needy as a good place to start.
But critics of Chafee’s seasonal semantics said the independent governor is taking political correctness too far – and defying the will of the Legislature.
In January, the House of Representatives passed a symbolic resolution declaring that the tree customarily erected this time of year be referred to “as a ‘Christmas tree’ and not as a ‘holiday tree’ or other non-traditional terms.”
The resolution’s sponsor, Rep. Doreen Costa, said she plans to erect and decorate a tree at her Statehouse office on Dec. 6, the same day Chafee plans to host a tree lighting event. Costa said she’ll be taking up a collection of canned goods.
“Anybody that wants to go see a holiday tree can do so, but I will be decorating a Christmas tree,” Costa, R-North Kingstown, told The Associated Press. “It may only be a little Charlie Brown Christmas tree but at least it will be a Christmas tree.”
Chafee isn’t the first Rhode Island governor to refer to the annual Statehouse tree as a `holiday’ tree. His predecessor, Republican Gov. Donald Carcieri, used both `holiday tree’ and `Christmas tree’ in his correspondence. Other past governors have made no specific reference to Christmas at all with invitations to “holiday celebrations” featuring a “tree lighting.”
The 17-foot Colorado blue spruce at the center of the holiday hullabaloo was donated to the state by Big John Leyden’s Christmas Tree Farm in West Greenwich, R.I. Tree farmer John Leyden said he‘s disappointed with Chafee’s yuletide word choice.
“It’s not a holiday tree or even an `X-mas’ tree,” he said. “We’re a Christmas tree farm, that’s what the name is.”
Chafee insists he‘s just respecting the state’s history as a place respectful of all religions.
The colony’s hands-off policy toward religion quickly attracted sects that had been persecuted elsewhere. Rhode Island boasts both the nation’s first Baptist church and the oldest surviving Jewish synagogue.
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Comments (202)
Cape_Lookout_RW_Extremist
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:50pmAnd you thought that when the South was paying 85% of the tariffs, that 1862 was about slavery? Ha! New England is a cesspool of progressives and we’ll welcome anybody down here that wants to escape that crap. What’s wrong with American culture? Screw PC multiculturalism!
Report Post »seldomscene
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:58pmDo you see that no Dem or Rep is noted in stories like this? I am sure you have seen it before.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:10pmCAPE_LOOKOUT_RW_EXTREMIST
HA! good to see the truth about the civil war being mentioned.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:26pmCape…..
I have to agree that NE is way-too-liberal. That is not to say, however, that there are no Patriotic residents up there. I know of at least two.
My oldest lives in Maine. She is aware Maine is a bit too left, and is perterbed by it. She lived her life in NJ until age 38, and I think it gave her a perspective that some NE’ers do not have. She saw how the socialist welfare state destroyed families, our towns, and our economy.
My feeling is that many from New England have not had that exposure. Take Vermont. They only had 550 or so Blacks back when we used to vacation there in the 70‘s and very early 80’s. Therefore, they (many, not all) have no idea of how the Black family has been descecrated, or how it has led to widespread crime in Black neiborhoods/town/cities.
There are still traditional activities that were once observed in, say, NJ, that are either under attack or have been eliminated by political-correctness.
New Englanders do not know of clearing out from certain areas when it gets dark. That’s overwhelmingly just the way it is. Maybe they should visit Camden, NJ and try to function as they do in Vermont. If you don’t believe it, just compare the crime stats.
Report Post »Cape_Lookout_RW_Extremist
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 9:01pm@ Decendentof56
Report Post »I am sorry if I seemed to stereotype all New Englanders the way that most of the southerners are also stereotyped. You are correct that while they certainly are outnumbered, there are many conservatives out in the more rural areas of N.E. My point here is, for example. how a guy like Barney Frank stays in power for 16 years. And Ted Kennedy. Those states are very blue and always will be. I like New Hampshire’s state motto, “Live Free of Die.” But today they don’t believe it any longer. New York has systematically taken away nearly all of the citizen’s individual liberties and taxed them to death. Now they are wanting the rest of us to pay for their free spending. It’s just a different mind set, I suppose, but I’m ready to see the statist and progressive attitudes confronted and stopped by any means necessary to preserve our republic. I join your friends that you cited.
gunsofthepatRIots
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 9:04pmChafee was a Republican, lost his Senate seat then ran as an Independent for Governor. The last Election showed a huge flaw in the system that we somewhat saw on the national scale in 2000. There were 3 Candidates getting over 20%, Chafee and my vote Robitaille were separated by 3%. Majority of the people did not want this guy, do not want this guy as our Governor.
While NE is very liberal, RI can be considered the most liberal in the Union. However our last 3 governors have been repubs (including Chafee).
The Civil War was a breakdown of politics on both sides, but to say slavery did not play a factor you have no grasp of history
Report Post »robert
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 9:20pm“Now, Rhode Island is the new epicenter, with the state’s governor deciding that “Christmas” isn’t an inclusive enough title.”
Dorks like this are so stupid they think that hiding behind their pretentious desire for inclusiveness is going to divert attention away from the fact that they’re insulting aboout 90% of country’s population who are Christians.
Why the people there elected an America hater like this really reflects poorly on their judgement, and highlights how the out-of-touch leftist dregs control the state.
Report Post »txn4justice
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 9:37pmHistory is refreshing!
Report Post »Cape_Lookout_RW_Extremist
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 9:40pm@Gunsof Patriots
Report Post »OH Contrar on my knowledge of history…Yes slavery was an issue but history, as today, gets revised. It was a very expensive institution and due to the industrial revolution, it was withering on the vine. Most reputable farmers would no more want to beat or damage their property than they would their mule. Still it was a national sin for which we paid for by our brothers blood. Hollywood would have you think everyone in the south owned a slave. The truth is that not many could afford it. The average owner only had one to two slaves. The entire county of Halifax only had two farms of slaves but today it is 80% black and whites are hated due to the hate mongers like Jesse Jackson and Sharpton. Yes politics on both sides did colapse, but does it ever get reported that Lincoln actually wanted to deport all slaves back to Africa. I know that’s politically incorrect to say but its true. And he only wanted to stop the expansion of slavery further west, not eliminate it in the South. He too saw that machines were going to be replacing field hands. My original point here was not about slavery but about the unfair taxation. Just like today, 1% pays 67% of our taxes and the top 10% pays over 80%. It is the progressive way. And at some point we all of likeminded thought are going to rebel against it just like Herman Cain is doing. I’m sorry if you thought I was trying to distort history by some racial overtone but that was not my intent Sir.
Ded-Bred
Posted on November 30, 2011 at 12:13amHear hear!!! Truth is never found in history textbooks.Civil War was fought for unfair taxation. And slavery. But not the way it’s taught. Anyone stupid enough to believe the North fought to free slaves deserves to be enslaved themselves. FACT: The cotton gin had basically replaced the need for slaves. Cotton gins needed light maintenance and worked quickly, efficiently. They never got sick, pregnant, or hurt. They didn’t require large amounts of meat and wheat. The slaves were no longer needed at all.
Report Post »The North knew the blacks would very soon be their problem, taking away their jobs because they would be willing to work for less. They were accustomed to hard labor so would work circles around them. Good ol’ Abe was sending them back to Africa to rid U.S.A. of them.To this very day some of the most despicable, brutal atrocities are done by the slaves’ descendants and one common practice from some dictators
NYHuguenot
Posted on November 30, 2011 at 12:28amPlease! No more Yankees in Charlotte. Liberals from up North have taken over our region and we’re having to leave. It’s nearly impossible to elect a Republican anymore. City Council is 9-2 Democrat/Republican. Bonds sell every year. Trains to nowhere. Museums and arenas built with public money that lose money. I am leaving soon.
Report Post »wildbill_b
Posted on November 30, 2011 at 7:18amGov. Chafee has simply displayed exactly how ignorant he is. How can such a poorly educated “person” be in charge of anything. Oh, we can’t call it a “Christmas tree” because we might offend people who are atheist. Well, MR. Gov., here is your English lesson for the day.
Holiday:
Report Post »1500s, earlier haliday (c.1200), from O.E. haligdæg “holy day; Sabbath,“ from halig ”holy” (see holy) + dæg “day” (see day); in 14c. meaning both “religious festival” and “day of recreation,” but pronunciation and sense diverged 16c. As a verb meaning “to pass the holidays” by 1869.
smithclar3nc3
Posted on November 30, 2011 at 7:54amHe is the first independent to serve as Governor of Rhode Island since John Collins, who served 1786-1790.
Report Post »1proudAmerican
Posted on November 30, 2011 at 9:01am@CAPE_LOOKOUT_RW_EXTREMIST
Those of us in the North who are interested in history know that the Civil War was not just about slavery. Teachers, however, teach that it was. Our American history is being destroyed in the classroom.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on November 30, 2011 at 10:44am… To the Gov. Of R.I. go ***** yerself, you godda*n coward!
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on December 1, 2011 at 9:44pmThis crap is beginning to get too close to the bone. Christmas isn’t a “multicultural” holiday. Although, it has been hijacked by capitalistic commerce to a large degree.
It “IS” an American holiday. And it deserves to be acknowledged as such in every way. Offended? Tough. I’m offended that my culture has been turned upside down by non Americans.
Just living here does not make you an American, contrary to popular belief. America is an ‘Idea’. And there fore to be ‘American’ you must advocate the “idea”. Yeah, you can live here and not be an advocate for America. Our President is a good example. He believes a “fundamental change” is necessary for America. And he has used the last 3 years to make his point.
Apparently, Americans aren’t buying it now. But he is only 1 in a crowd of millions. Because our educational ‘system’, modeled after soviet Russia era indoctrination in their education centers, the up and coming generations have had history rewritten for them in the shadow of Nazi Germany.
The “governor” is just a symptom of a bigger problem as well as being a man of ZERO character.
Report Post »mbean
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:47pmThis is the same guy that banned State employees appearing on talk radio as it is “profit driven”. Bad bad profit……
Report Post »phillipwgirard
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 9:00pmI think I’m one of a 1/2 dozen conservatives in R.I.
Report Post »gettingirritated
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:46pmWhen people find out I’m from RI, one of the first questions is about governor “goofy”. This guy is a total embaressment and I can’t wait for the next election to get the entire congressional delegation and this idiot out.
Report Post »Hickory
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:05pmDid you vote for him?
Report Post »SHOWMESTATEGUY
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:24pmHICKORY————
Don’t know if GETTINGIRRITATED voted for the man but a majority of the people in that state did. Says something about the majority of the people in that state.
Report Post »Winedude
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 9:01pmFolks in RI are a hell of a lot smarter than the rectal pores that live and support idiots like Rick Perry in Texas.
Report Post »roryws
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 9:05pmOnly about 35-36% of Rhode Island voted for goofy
Report Post »gunsofthepatRIots
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 9:07pmSHOWMESTATEGUY—
i live in RI and can tell you that just because he was elected does not mean the majority voted for him. There were 4 major candidates in the last election, and 63% of the voters voted against this guy. He is also a Conservative Ex-Republican not a Liberal
Report Post »Rhody Rogue
Posted on November 30, 2011 at 12:27amThats the problem, the state, this place is full of them, and well we are at it lets get rid losser reed
Report Post »Tired-of-fools
Posted on November 30, 2011 at 9:38amI am also from RI. I knew this Governor’s father and he is probably rolling over in his grave. The majority of the voters in this state are stupid. This guy has also given in state tuition to illegals, wants amnesty, and has been acting more like a dictator than a Governor. The voters in this state have been brainwashed by the Democrats. I also know the Republican that ran against him John Robitaille. What a shame that he wasn’t elected. We as Rhode Islanders have a history of electing dopes, like Patrick Kennedy and Sheldon Whitehouse to name a few. I think its time to find another place to live if this next election doesn’t work out.
Report Post »Micmac
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:41pmSeparation of state and religion but he’s the state putting up a tree. Can’t have it both ways dude!
Obviously a NoBama dweeb.
NoBama 2012
Report Post »Reboot Washington
RossPoldark
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:45pmSo if they call this a holiday tree, what holiday are they talking about? just asking.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 9:07pmYou can call a lion an ant, but you still supper!
Report Post »GTH
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:39pmChristmas was invented by the elite bankers for the same reason every other holiday was invented.
Report Post »To get you out there spending money during the financially slow winter months when people aren’t buying houses, cars, boats, motorcycles, etc.
decendentof56
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:04pmGTH…..
Report Post »You really need to take a Constitution class!
Eliasim
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:07pmWell I’m glad then that they invented it because it has provided me with a sword of truth. Thanks bankers.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:20pm*Christmas was hijacked by the elite bankers…
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:38pm@ GTH
You are are weird dude or dudette! Christmas was commercialized heavily after World War II. It was the time of “improvement” of our lot, and manufacturers wanted to sell their wares. It expecially exploded with the advent of television with advertisements that were geared for many years toward children and helped to make them greedy so–and-so’s.
Now our society and our educational system has moved to where “everyone gets a trophy,” whether or not they’ve done anything to deserve any recognition. Our educational system indoctrinates rather than instructs or challenge thinking. And everyone is not only CREATED EQUAL, they “deserve to BE equal” with equal posessions, equal rewards, and equal recognition even if they have less than equal work ethics, skills, or abilities. What a crock!
Christmas is a religious holy day. It is not a commercial, money grubbing, demanding, guilt ridden time of year unless you, personally, allow it to be or perpetuate it.
Happy advent, prepare!
Report Post »Isaiah52021
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:45pmYes, because in the year 354 (when Jesus’ birthday was first celebrated) aka Christmas, the CEO greedy bankers were just trying to get everyone to shop at the malls that didn’t exist…learn some history buddy, before you make your prepared liberal statement please. And have a very Merry Christmas, may God bless
Report Post »gunsofthepatRIots
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 9:10pmIsaiah2021–
December 25th has been celebrated with a tree and gift giving long before the 4th century and Jesus’ birth.
Report Post »txn4justice
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 9:43pmSpending money is a good thing for the economy. What are you for? Animal Farm communism? Doesn’t anybody read the classics in school anymore. George Orwell was mandatory reading.
Report Post »NYHuguenot
Posted on November 30, 2011 at 12:32amIt’s older than that. How about 3000 years? The ashtoreth used to worship Ishtar?
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:37pmIt‘s a CHRISTMAS TREE or it’s nothing! Christmas = the Christ Mass (celebration of the Word become flesh).
If you can’t use “Christ” when talking about this holiday (holiday = holy day), then stop celebrating my religious holy day and go off and celebrate the “Winter Solstice” (Dec. 21st by the way), or whatever YOU celebrate and leave my Christmas to me and other Christians who understand what it is all about!!!
Merry Christmas!
Report Post »GTH
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:40pm..Merry MONEYMAS!
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:05pmThey can call it what they want to because for me and my family it is a Christmas Tree, and will always be a Christmas Tree. But those people who dwell in the pool of water at the base of the tree, and to those who dwell bellow the surface of the water at the base of the tree, to them it is nothing because they can’t see the green grasses of the branches.
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:29pm@ GTH
My Christmas is NOT about money! My family, friends and I do not give gifts at Christmas, rather we do this throughout the year when we see something that is appropriate. We do not so shopping in preparation for Christmas, but do share meals together, share stories, church services and other appropriate outings.
I bake homemade cookies (mom‘s and aunt’s recipes), and give a large supply to friends–made with real butter, real nuts, real everything fron scratch! I am now 63, I decided these practices in my late teens and we do NOT share the stress that this holyday brings to others!
We share of our time and our “wealth” (little as it is), throughout the year as others are in need.
My holyday is not commercialized nor do we spend lots of time or money running around and getting nowhere. Stop ruining a celebration of “God with us” with your pagan practices of being frantically busy to impress others and alleviate yourself of neglect.
Holy Christ Mass!
Report Post »dal743
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:54pmRight On!!! You go HILLBILLY!
Report Post »Mimi24
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 9:46pmMerry Christmas to you and yours as well.
Report Post »JUSTANOTHEROPINION
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:36pmIgnorance really is bliss as you can tell by the big smile on this schmucks face.
Report Post »taxpro4u03
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:34pmOBVIOUSLY the ‘holiday’ the good Governor is promoting is NOT the Birth of Christ, rather CONSUMERISM… He‘s got his own ’holiday,’ comes the 1st of April — April FOOL’S Day. So SEP -a RAT- e your Church and State; identify that lil blue spruce symbol there in your lil Corporate sector what it is: — the Tree of Commerce. I‘ll be sure to ’include’ the promotion when I send the hungry to YOUR doorstep for soup and bread. R.I. – just another sister Corporate ZIT on the ass of the former Republic.
Report Post »aaak
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:32pmwhy just pick on christmas, why not call everything “holiday” including calling the menorah a “holiday candle” and the kwanza candle a “holiday candle” ?
Report Post »Lotus4115
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:38pmKwanza, the only real holiday if you call a holiday dreamed up by leftist communist of the 1960′s a holiday.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:41pmGood thing you pointed this out. By calling everything “holiday” the Liberals will eventually run into another problem, offending those Atheists who partake in no religious activity, or don’t believe in anything Holy. You can’t say “Happy Holidays” to most Atheists, as they don’t celebrate anything holy or religious in nature. The best we could do is to just tell everyone “Have a Good Day!”. That is, if they’re not a Stoic. Dang Liberals and their irrational, hypocritical notions.
Report Post »Libertybell2012
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:31pmYou know what? It’s not even pc correctness anymore…its far left takeover.
Report Post »dal743
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:56pmI agree.
Report Post »GTH
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:30pmWhat does a christmas tree have to do with christ anyway? The tree actually comes from the pagan romans holiday when they worshiped the tree.
Report Post »Short history lesson for all the brain washed sheeple out there.
The Pagans and the Christians hated each other but both celebrated holidays close to or on the same dates. The Roman catholic church combined both pagan and christian beliefs to gain control over both religions.
[Think about it! Can we worship and honor God by involving ourselves with customs and traditions, which God Himself forbade as idolatry? Can we convince God to somehow "Christianize" these customs and the whole pretense and lie of Christmas, so we can enjoy ourselves? Can we obey through disobedience?
So what is right about Christmas? 1. Nothing! ]
http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/tracts/tract3.html
garyM
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:41pmYou missed the point trying to sound intelligent!
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:47pmEven still the Pagans prove the existence of God with the tree, because it can be used to explain the Mountain of Zion. Therefore it is that they provided the tree, and I drew their own sword and used it against them, because even in the shadows there is light to be seen by those who look. Just as that Art showed ants crawling all over Jesus was meant to slam Christians, but that I draw their sword to point out that if people were ants, then the people of Rachel would be crawling all over Joseph’s spirit.
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:48pmI‘m sure if anyone has read the Bible they don’t need you telling them this. A Christian is well aware of what Christmas is and they are also well aware that God did call any wimps to serve but he called people to stand up against the devil and his agenda which comes in many forms, and sometimes they will masquerade themselves as angels of light!
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:53pmThere is practically nothing that a Christian hating person can say or do that I can not turn it around on them. I even appreciate the Homosexual community in the way they continue to prove that even darkness craves “The light”, and but they have to go outside themselves to adopt a child to become a common focus of the two of them. Together they can not make that “One Light.” They are miserably stuck in darkness that doesn’t understand the light, and yet struggles to understand it until the point that they just want the light to go away, because they do not know it.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:00pmOnce you understand how the light is divided, then you can begin to understand how all people have certain traits of darkness and light, but there are also some people who dwell in the river that feeds the Garden which goes off and keeps on going, and in that river the light comes down and keeps on going and going disappearing into darkness which doesn‘t understand it and therefore it doesn’t come to a head.
Report Post »taxpro4u03
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:20pmAwesome!! — In the northern hemisphere from dec 22 thru dec 24 the earth‘s sun APPEARS at it’s lowest point in the sky, perceivably not moving for THREE DAYS; on the morning of the 25th, it moves NORTH one degree, thus the “sun rises” bringing longer days providing security from the critters of the darkness, warmth, and fertility — thus ‘salvation.’ I believe it was Justin Martyr who opined in the 1st century a.d. when he opined the ‘new religion’ of christanity as to how it differed from the core beliefs of Paganism, but for mythical depition of natural events and personification. The Romans, having ‘converted,’ Killed him, thus the origin of the term ‘martyr.’ Cheers!
Report Post »Greenwood
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 9:07pm@GTH…………Can we worship and honor God by involving ourselves with customs and traditions, which God Himself forbade as idolatry?
No……………The Christmas tree is not of Christian origin. Tree worship was common among the pagan Europeans and survived their conversion to Christianity. It did so in various rites and customs, including placing a Yule tree at an entrance or inside the house during the midwinter holidays. It is symbolic of the eternal circle of life, fertility, death and re-birth.
Ephesians 5: 10 Keep on making sure of what is acceptable to the Lord
Report Post »Bakko Bomma
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 11:10pm@GTH You‘re not talking to people who care what God thinks you’re talking to theologically informed pagans i.e. Christians.
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:29pmChafee is an idiot. Here we go with the hungry children crap again. Are they hungry or obese? It’s time these liberal guilt machines come up with another angle. We have social services taking 200 pound 3rd graders from their parents in this country, and billboards advertising food stamps. The only hungry children are those being abused.
Report Post »Ric
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:28pmA “Holiday Tree” erected in December to celebrate the national holiday identified as “Christmas” should be called a “Christmas Tree”! If December is going to be called “The Holiday Season” what does that mean…..holiday of what?? It is Christ’s birthday that we celebrate….ergo “Christmas”! These idiots want to take advantage of the Christmas period with PAID HOLIDAYS, but refuse to recognize the true reason for the season!!
Report Post »ilovetheusa1
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:37pm100% right on the money, great post
Report Post »Ohio4Tea
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:26pmMerry CHRISTmas!
Report Post »Ohio4Tea
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:26pmMerry CHRISTmas everyone!!! Share the cheer with everyone around you!
Report Post »Mimi24
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 10:50pmMerry Christmas to you too.
Report Post »the58thstate
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:25pmhe needs to be ask one simple question. what is the reason for the season? he cant wiggle out of that.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:25pmWell let me think for a minute. The pine needles represent “The green grasses” which Prophets speak about; the branches represent the various trees of your families; the branches and trunk also represent the Apostles being the branches and Christ being the vine; the garland represents the rivers and streams of the Holy Mountain (also called Ark); the round ornaments represent “Stones” (ie. Prophets) throughout the Holy Mountain (which is why Moses cracked a “Stone” with his staff to make water come out of it); and the Angel in the top of the tree Represents the window in the top of Noah’s Ark. Nope, I would definitely say it is a Christmas Tree!
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:23pmThe New England states have been infested with the enemy!
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:22pmFirst of all, Gov. Chafee, you’re a wuss–a liberal, wimpy, little wuss. Second, you shame the name “Lincoln”, and lastly…Merry Christmas! Though you deserve coal for Christmas, I wouldn’t waste good energy-making material on your candy a$$. Have a solar panel from our gov. Hickenlooper in Colorado. Man, what a little b__ch!
Report Post »ares338
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:21pmI am not a religious person what so ever but why try to change something that is part of this country? PC is way out of control.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:02pmAres338…..
Its fine you are not religious. After all, in the US you choose to practice religion, or you do not.
You can also choose the religion you want to practice. Not a bad deal, I’d say.
However, too many Americans do not get the connection between religion (Christianity) and our founding. Our laws were based on biblical law, not some law thought up by some man.. In fact, our founders stated that “we are a nation of laws, not men.”
“Not men” is the operative word here. Think of it for a second…….The founders said our rights come from God. Your rights are divinely bestowed upon you. Man did not give you your rights, therefore man can not take them away.
Now, you may not believe in a God, and that is fine. But, I would caution anyone who should think that their rights could come from man. As we know, man has held captive anyone who dared question laws that were imposed upon them. Just think of the murderous dictators who‘ve killed millions for disobeying ’their’ laws.
So, how does all this tie-in with the “Christmas” tree?……
If you deny that ‘the tree’ should be called “Christmas”, are you not, then, somehow denying that we are a nation based on laws from something other than man?
ARES338….don’t beileve your rights are divinely bestowed, that’s fine, but definitely don’t believe that they come from man. Cherish what the Christmas Tree represents. You see, I don’t believe, either, but will not tear down or deny the right to c
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:06pm…..to erect a Christmas Tree.
Report Post »taxpro4u03
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:36pmdecendentof56 — yep! ‘founded’ on NATURAL LAW… ‘devine providence,‘ call it ’god’ s law. — Bible comes from the greek ‘biblios,’ meaning bookSsssssssssssssss. King James II of England decreed it published to the ‘commoners,’ right after he re-wrote it (Elizabethan English not-with-standing) in SIXTEEN ELEVEN. See Jeremiah 10:2-4; the mingling of pagan and ‘heathenism’ is…. FORBIDDEN. Why ya think the Puritans of Massechusetts refused to celebrate it, equating it to ‘witchcraft’ etc???
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on November 30, 2011 at 6:16amCape…..
Report Post »Hope you stop back to this thread, because I want you to know I did not feel you were stereotyping…not at all. I probably needed to re-phrase a couple sentences.
decendentof56
Posted on November 30, 2011 at 6:44amTo TAXPRO……..
Guess you’ve studied the Constitution, too. I was a bit long-winded in my response to Ares338 so I could make a point in layman’s terms. This, not neccessarily for Ares, but to those who have no idea of the very-very important link between Christianity and our country, for it is the building blocks of the US.
I finally took a Constitution class last winter. Wow! what a eye-opener! The thing to me is that I now can see just how evil the politicians are in regards to disrespecting and/or completely disregarding our Constitution and how that fact has gotten us into the mess we are in.
BTW….I saw your analogy using the “green light”. Very good, indeed! I often explain to those with absolutely no concept of defensive-driving. I tell them …..that green light means NOTHING.
Report Post »wildbill_b
Posted on November 30, 2011 at 8:10amtaxpro4u03
” Why ya think the Puritans of Massechusetts refused to celebrate it, equating it to ‘witchcraft’ etc???”
Actually, Oliver Cromwell and his Puritans in ‘Massachusetts’ refused to celebrate it because the Bible does not provide a specific day for the Birth of the Savior and the church arbitrarily chose the day because it coincided with Pagan festivals based like many on the Winter Solstice, which is the binding factor for the “day” it is celebrated. The Church did not “combine” paganism and Christianity, but rather took advantage of the established pagan celebration to firmly establish “Christmas”. Christianity replaced paganism, despite many “claims” it was combined with it. Peace.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:17pmFrom “Christmas tree” to “Holiday tree” and then what? “Seasonal decorative conifer”?
Report Post »boston-rightwinger
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:16pmIt’s a fcking Christmas Tree. Is a bible called the bible, is the koran called the koran, is a boat called a boat. It’s a Christmas Tree. If people don’t like it, tough. There is alot from the left I don’t not like and I do not whine about it. Man Up Chafee!!
Report Post »diablosho
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:20pmThat was awesome! Great way of putting it!
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:24pmDitto that
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:32pmBoston might not be so bad, after all!
Report Post »taxpro4u03
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 8:56pmok — these clowns want to be ‘politically correct’ all up and down the line, to be ‘inclusive,‘ and ’not offend anyone.’ Words are SYMBOLS. The color RED for a stoplight is a SYMBOL meaning ‘stop.’ Green is a symbol, recognized as ‘proceed with caution.’ — We, as a SOCIETY, “accepting” new politically correct terminology as ‘inclusive, non-offensive, and individually RESPONSIBLE,‘ may NOW approach and intersection and DISREGARD the ’symbol’ if WE, as individuals are OFFENDED there is no on-coming traffic at the RED light, and BLOW thru it. NO photo-enforcement tickets. Love it!!! WHOOT!!!!! :-) Course one could be right when the decision is made…. DEAD right. (as in didn’t see that car coming BLAM! DEAD!!)
Report Post »Libertybell2012
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:16pmPC lefty correctness gone crazy again…time to stand up for who we are and what we were founded on! Rock on Costa! God Bless America! Merry Christmas!
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:14pmthen why put up a Christmas tree at all? if being inclusive is the goal, don’t recognize any religion, atheist or theist..
Report Post »hi
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:25pmI know!
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:14pmThis moron needs to focus more on Christ mas instead of his drivel.. it takes Christlike behavior to give to the poor you joke.. Wake up RI you have a creep in your government! God help us!
Report Post »BONETRAUMA
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 7:32pmAmen.
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