Beat Down! Atlanta Cop Caught Punching Female IHOP Patron in the Face
- Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:28am by
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After last week’s horrific video of a transgender woman getting pummeled in a Baltimore McDonald’s sparked outrage, now video has surfaced showing an off-duty Atlanta cop scuffling with an IHOP patron early Sunday morning and slugging her in the face. It also shows him putting her in a headlock and wrangling her to the ground:
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution (AJC) explains what happened:
According to several videos posted on YouTube.com, the officer, whose name was not known, shouted at a woman sitting in the corner of a booth near the door and then he lunged at her. A woman wearing a black dress appeared to be trying to separate the officer and her friend when the officer slapped her. The woman in the black dress hit him back and he responded with a punch to her face.
A second officer came up just as the struggle began. He got involved when it became physical between the first cop and the woman in the black dress and appeared to be trying to separate the two. The first officer pulled the woman in a black dress away from the table, threw her onto the floor and laid on top of her while trying to get handcuffs on one wrist. The second wrist was cuffed when she turned over on her stomach.
Within moments, a female officer appeared to hold back the crowd while the woman in the black dress, shoeless, was led out of the restaurant.
“The Atlanta Police Department is aware of the incident that took place early Sunday morning involving one of its officers attempting to arrest a patron at an IHOP in Buckhead,” the police department said in a statement to the AJC. “The matter has been referred to our Office of Professional Standards to determine whether department policies and procedures were followed. Further comment at this time would not be appropriate.”
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rlo
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:55amand that’s why I eat at home…
Report Post »JoeyBagaDonuts
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:32pmThe cop is a *****. He smacked her first. When she hit him back to defend herself he could have restrained her without punching her in the face. I liked to see what that ***** cop does when a tough-guy smacks his girly fighting fat-ass around? Bet he cries like a bitch.
The funny thing is Mr. ***** Cop probably arrest guys every night for doing just what he did. But has to call for back-up for tough-guys because he’s a *****.
Report Post »JoeyBagaDonuts
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:39pmFill in the splats, p*ssy, and b*tch. Whats wrong with slang for cat and a female dog?
Report Post »JoeyBagaDonuts
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:41pmWhats wrong with slang for cat and a female dog?
Report Post »4blackhorses
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 6:02pmThat’ll teach da bitch for trying to steal his Joey““Bag““Nuts off his tray!
Report Post »nomercy63
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:54amAs I recall he has the gun the badge and authority of the law if he conducted himself within the rule of law then he had every right to end the situation typically police are in a no win situation when the camera is rolling Another person out there that thought I am going to challenge a ploice officer because i dont like them REALLY BAD DECISION
Report Post »John1863
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:53amSinista, I’ve seen you on here many times and you seem to have a problem with authority. The lady grabed the officer held his arm, he slapped her, she slapped him and then threw three punches at him before he lite her up. The officer did his job. I wonder why you hate the police so much? my guess is you have had a few run ins with them in the past.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:12amI have a problem with authority?
I am the authority.
I have every single right a police officer has.
Matter of fact, he gets his authority from ME.
I have NOT given him the authority to beat up civilians.
He’s law enforcement, not judge, jury, and executioner.
You weak argument is predictable and typical of cops and cop supporters.
“You MUST have had some negative experience with the police”.
No, not neccessarily.
All I have to do is google “police brutality” and it’s easy to discern that it is rampant and that the police are abusive to civilians.
Thousands of “hits” from “police brutality”.
Report Post »VISITORNUMBER3
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:17pm@ Sinista….I can google “unicorns”, too. I’ll get thousands of “hits”. Doesn’t mean the results are accurate nor true.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:03pmYou can’t get any video results from googling “unicorns”, klutz.
Unless it’s cartoons or movies or something fictional.
Police brutality is not fiction.
Report Post »cranberry
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:50amThis is so nasty, that woman probably weighs 115 lbs and sure she lashed out but no cop should punch a woman like that.He put his full weight behind that punch. It is his temper showing. She had no knife, no gun, she was acting like a B* sure but come on. I hope this cop gets suspended and goes back to learning how to handle the public. I bet you if this woman had been 75 years old he would have still done it to her.
Report Post »positive1
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:50amOff duty cops must stop wearing their uniforms in public. The cop needs to be arrested for assault and body slamming her on the ground. They all are becoming fat, lazy and angry at an alarming rate.
Report Post »Smokepole
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:49amWhen will these fools learn; Police are not trained to lose a fight!
Report Post »JJCon
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:02pmWhere I work in security, we try specifically not to hire police officers because their general training runs contrary to ours and its hard to teach someone to turn that off. The woman’s actions were a clear sign of an escalation to acting out. Our response to that situation is to, in essence, back-down and then try to regain control by setting limits… Cops are trained not to back-down.
That punch will likely cost this guy both of his jobs.
Report Post »Confederate
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:49amAs Rodney King would say “Why can’t we all just get along?” http://www.dixiedefenders2086.com
Report Post »Outraged Patriot
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:48amYou mess with bull you get the horns!!
Report Post »DCsKiller
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:47amThe “officer” is off duty- working a private security position, and unless the woman he was pursuing was disorderly or determined to be a threat to “public safety”, the SECURITY GAURD has no right to assault her or steal her belongings, nor does he have the right to detain her.
Report Post »John1863
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:57amWrong DCSKILLER, an off duty cop is sworn to the same standards as an on duty cop even if he’s working as a private security guard. Secondly no where does it state that he was working there and my guess is he and the other officer were there for breakfast after their shift.
Report Post »DCsKiller
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:06amI live in Atlanta, WSB radio stated ” was off-duty “ and that he was working ”private security”, this link does not say he was working security.
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I agree to your “sworn” statement, we should all be held to that standard- but he stepped outside his legal jurisdiction when he attempted to confiscate the first woman’s bag- especially considering the ‘party” had only been asked to be quiet by another patron.
Face it, the officer’s “man-hood” was challenged and he failed. The 2nd woman is an idiot but the officer over-reacted. He should have removed her arm, not attacked her face.
But the facts will come out about the reason the officer was at the table and why he felt it neccesary to grab at the first woman instead of asking her to step out from behind the table, or asking the person next to her to get up so he could take her into custody- if that was his intent.
Cops are not infallable- but your right, they are sworn to uphold the law, so they are held to a higher standard of behavior. Besides, I don’t know about you, but my parents taught me to NEVER hit a woman- he could have detained her without punching her in the face- or slapping her which provoked the attack. His position of authority inflated his ego and this little drunk woman tested his virtue and honor.
airhead0
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:47ameveryone messed up here. The cop should not have smacked her in the face the first time. Warn her to step away and if she does not comply cuff her. She should never have taken a swing at the cop, thats just plain stupid! It looks as though he almost knocked her our with that punch, it was overkill. He has the law on his side, he didn’t need that much brutality. I’m thinking that alcohol was a major factor.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:59amI’m not certain that slapping somebody in the face first means you have the law on your side.
Now ultimately, yes, they’ll have the law on their side, because the law no longer exists and is arbitrary and dependent on the whims of men. We have no rule of law any longer, we have rule of man. Videos like this, and the thousands of others like this one that exist that show cops acting like feudal Lords, combined with government “leaders” who openly flaunt and mock the law, are all the proof we need that we no longer own our nation.
Report Post »BlueStrat
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:47pm:I’m not certain that slapping somebody in the face first means you have the law on your side.”
Precisely.
I’ve never seen/read, in any police/security training materials or courses I’m aware of, where a slap to the face was considered a tactical stratagem or legitimate method of restraint.
A slap to the face serves one and only one purpose…to insult/offend/enrage/disrespect the recipient.
Actually, that officer is VERY lucky. If she or possibly a husband/boyfriend had been carrying concealed, there might have been a body count that included at least one former cop.
Report Post »Madcat151
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:44amWomen who want to hit like men swear like men and drink like men should expect to get punched like men.
Report Post »Enough of the double standard.
Gentelmanly behavior does not apply to these women.
nomercy63
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:56amBRAVO stop treating women like daddys little girl they can be mean vicious and downright nasty and should not be treated any different
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:49pmNo, nomercy. You treat women more gently than you treat men, no matter how badly educated or how much refinement they lack. An honorable man does not shirk his honor because he gets a burr under his saddle, instead he does the right thing and always abides by honor. Use what force is necessary to remove her from the situation, but no more, then continue with your work.
The solution to women trying to be like men, is not to treat them like men. That example is going to cause a lot of massive beatings of women in the near future, who have been taught and do not know better that they are not men’s equals in a physical sense. By leading by example, you demonstrate that your strength is superior, giving her a teaching moment, while still retaining your own integrity and honor. Plus you set an example for the young men out there, most of whom are NOT taught to treat women with respect.
The way of the savage is not recommended.
Report Post »Agentuntomyself
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:51pmReally? Really?! So if a 5′1 110lb. woman is swearing and acting obnoxious, she deserves to be punched in the face by a 6′0 200lb. man? You are a sick pig. If my 15 year old son ever, EVER struck one of his younger, smaller, weaker siblings he wouldn’t see the light of day for months. You do not use that kind of force on someone so much smaller and weaker than you. That’s what handcuffs are for, you idiot.
Report Post »cosette
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:43amO.M.G This video is indicative of the total breakdown of social standards which has evolved in America. We have set the bar so low that even those in authority are of the ghetto mentality. When I first saw this story I thought” this is more of the same.” But sadly I was wrong. This nation is in rapid decline . So sad!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:56amExcellent post. That’s what I was implying above in the thread with the suggestion to substitute “cop/police“ references in the story with ”gang member”. There is no difference. Even the “you give me my respect!” attitude is the same now.
Unfortunately many on the right have been taught since birth to instinctively genuflect before uniformed authority, for reasons I honestly don’t understand. Respect one another, yes, but to be so servile and submissive and obedient when a badge shows up and acts like a gang member? Please.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:09pmHow about this, don’t break any laws and then if a cop beats you down, beat him back. Chances are if your righteous before GOD and defending yourself, whomever is attempting to beat you down will regret that decision.
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:42amDon’t worry, gang he’s in the Union. He’ll get a month of payed administrative leave and be able to catch up on some golf.
Report Post »clockwatcher
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:42amLesson: don’t fight with cops, you will have the chance to sue later.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:49amSubmit. Comply. Never resist. Obey all orders from the government agent.
Yep, sounds about right for the indoctrination we’ve been receiving the last few decades.
Report Post »My Hero-Allen West-click my name
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:42amAs much as I love the boys in blue he was way out of line in this matter.While she appeared to be trying to pull his arm from her friend he slapped her and low and behold she protected herself.
I very much appreciate the tough job the police have and for the most part think they do an outstanding job but this officer got it all wrong. Maybe he needs a little desk duty to give him time to think about how he reacted.
Report Post »My Hero-Allen West-click my name
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:54amAs the video shows she was trying to pull his arm away from her friend. She would then be guilty of interfering with an arrest. He then slapped her in the face and she reacted by hitting him back and then the hits her with his fist.
While I have a son in school to become a police office and I very much respect the police if someone slapped me in the face I would also hit them back. Right or wrong he was out of line.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:01am“While I have a son in school to become a police office and I very much respect the police if someone slapped me in the face I would also hit them back. Right or wrong he was out of line.”
That’s the American spirit. You don’t take **** from people and you always defend the weak from a bully, that’s always been rule #1 of traditional Americanism.
Report Post »moreteaplease
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:42amOkay that’s going waaay overboard imo. You have two burly cops and a petite woman who slapped one of the cops. Bad move on her part I agree, but that did not warrant the cop taking a ham fisted slug at her like he did. He could have easily broken her jaw or even her neck with a punch like that.
Report Post »MySacredHonor
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:41amnot sure of the full story here, but it seemed to me the cop was defending himself. maybe a little to hard.. but that’s a spot value judgment… she clearly hit him first… and he was responding, but we dont know the full story… so ill wait and see before throwing the cop under the bus!
Report Post »My Hero-Allen West-click my name
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:49amMy GOD watch the video again. She hit him after he slapped her in the face, he slapped her first.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:12amA cop has a right to defend him/herself sure. But, I am amazed at all the armchair conservatives here cheering on the very group that has allowed the politicians to rape this country dry and have done nothing about it because they are bribed with exorbatant pensions.
Gonzo
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:40amA lot of these videos happen at 2:00 in the morning with a restaurant full of drunks.
Report Post »Guerrino_P
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:11amI think the cop was one of those drunks you’re talking about. I hope his wife is in a safe place.
Report Post »travlman77
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:40amAct like an animal get treated like an animal!
Report Post »HairRazor
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:45pmthat’s right.
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:39amThis seems to be an everyday occurance at these breakfast joints. Hmm
Report Post »FrankSpeak
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:39am3am……..need we say more!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:41amExactly
Report Post »1chancey1
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:10amIhop…need we say more.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:18amShe got pancaked, just like she ordered.
Report Post »mtorres20
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:32pmI don’t remember this kinda of vile and hatred even in 1960s and 1970s. We live in very bad times. Buy gun the animals are free. 40 years of Liberal idealogy has really made us the last generation.
Report Post »HairRazor
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:44pmIt appeared she needed that one and maybe another.. one should not disrespect an officer.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 2:24am@ BetterDays
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:18am
She got pancaked, just like she ordered.
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She got a five-knuckled sinista mace upside her head and a set of chrome bracelets for good measure.
All kidding aside, if those restaurant patrons would have stayed out of the cops business in the first damn place, none of what took place would have taken place.
@ Sinista Mace
I respect your opinions to a point, but you could probably do better in making your assertions with a little less chip on the shoulder. If you truly have a 172 IQ maybe you should try using more of it instead of apparently leaving much of it in reserve. Sometimes your tactical engagement technique is rapier.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 10:12amTsunami, with all due respect, I’m not seeking your approval, nor do I need to.
Your argument about me having “a chip on my shoulder” carries as much water as the “You must have had some negative experience with law enforcement” argument.
In fact, they are one and the same.
I don’t have to have had any negative experience or harbor any resentment to have an opinion based on the extensive history of law enforcement brutality experienced by others.
I don’t owe anybody an apology, except perhaps Yahweh.
“Father, forgive me for my brash delivery”.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 2:26pm@ Sinista
You’re just an angry person. You tried to justify your arguments to everybody by claiming your superior intellect. I successfully debunked that assertion by baiting you into answering me indignantly.
You just lost all respect. You have my pity whether you like it or not.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 4:27pmTsunami-22
I never sought, nor needed, your acceptance, approval, OR respect. I never needed to justify my opinion to anyone. My opinion is valid whether you like it or not.
You offered your opinion of my comments, but you failed just as poorly as SGT Issachar Crust.
You cannot successfully counter this statement, you simply continue to overlook it as if you’re blind, because to acknowledge it would be to acknowledge your defeat.
“Your argument about me having “a chip on my shoulder” carries as much water as the “You must have had some negative experience with law enforcement” argument.
In fact, they are one and the same.
I don’t have to have had any negative experience or harbor any resentment to have an opinion based on the extensive history of law enforcement brutality experienced by others.”
What is deserving of pity if you and others failed attempts to counter my arguments.
Digest.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 4:48pm@ Sinista Pity Me
You haven’t made an “argument” on anything yet. You’ve only stated an “opinion” by your own admission.
Your opinions are apparently motivated by anger, indifference, and indignation. PROVE me wrong if you can Mr. 172 I.Q.
How does it feel to be drug down by someone with lesser of an I.Q. than your own? I‘m telling you that I’m an idiot, yet you still answer me. Think about it. The saying goes “You can’t argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their own level and then beat you with experience”.
Keep swinging your Mace. Eventually you’ll get tired of hitting yourself with it.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 4:52pm@ Sinista Pity Me
This what you’ve reduced yourself to. Granted it’s MY opinion.
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Sinista MACE
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 5:45pmI offered my opinion, you started an argument, and I finished it.
You lost.
If you can’t counter this statement, then you need not respond anymore.
“I don’t have to have had any negative experience or harbor any resentment to have an opinion based on the extensive history of law enforcement brutality experienced by others.”
You haven’t dragged me anywhere, you have sat in the mud spinning your tires and making yourself appear foolish.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 6:49pm@ Sinista Mace
“I don’t have to have had any negative experience or harbor any resentment to have an opinion based on the extensive history of law enforcement brutality experienced by others.”
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If you have no experience (negative or otherwise), then why should anyone accept your opinions as having any valid credibility? I’ve seen law enforcement personnel in action, and I can tell you from actual experience that your initial assertion that “all cops hate civilians” is rubbish.
Like I said, your opinion is inaccurate and hyperbole. I‘m not saying there isn’t any police brutality, but you operate on the assertion that “ALL cops hate civilians”.
I’ve seen law enforcement people (first hand) pull incapacitated “civilians” from life-threatening situations of many kinds like fires, potential drownings, aid in natural disaster settings rescuing “civilians” by helicopter, boat….etc. They were happy to do it…even when off duty.
Who do you think has more credibility, you for being negatively ALL INCLUSIVE by showing one side of the coin, or me for showing both?
Do you not see the basic flaw in your “All cops hate civilians” statement?
I assert that law enforcement personnel do more GOOD than harm.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 11:52pmTsunami-22
You said: “If you have no experience (negative or otherwise), then why should anyone accept your opinions as having any valid credibility?”
I don‘t think you’re very literate.
Let me go slowly for you.
I don’t have to have a negative experience with law enforcement to draw my conclusions.
I never sought, nor needed, your acceptance, approval, OR respect for my opinions.
My opinions are always valid, whether you personally agree with them or not.
If you could read, I said my comment “ all cops hate civilians” is a deliberate generalization.
“Like I said, your opinion is inaccurate and hyperbole. I‘m not saying there isn’t any police brutality, but you operate on the assertion that “ALL cops hate civilians”.”
I’ll tell you again, learn how to read, and stop trying to twist my words.
” I’ve seen law enforcement personnel in action…”
So have we all, we all just saw law enforcement in action abusing another civilian for the umpteenth time.
“I’ve seen law enforcement people (first hand)… ”
Lol, pardon the pun, that white woman in that video just saw law enforcement “first hand” and “second hand”, and “headlock-hand“ and ”slammed-on-the-floor hand”.
“Who do you think has more credibility, you for being negatively ALL INCLUSIVE by showing one side of the coin, or me for showing both?”
You don’t have any credibility with me at all, you haven’t earned it, you are deliberately carrying the water for cops because you are a brainwashed sheep who likes to be abused and see others abused by police.
Then again, you could be a cop, or a cop’s family member, or the friend of a cop.
Your argument doesn’t differ at all from theirs.
You like to lick their boots.
“Do you not see the basic flaw in your “All cops hate civilians” statement?”
Do you not see the basic flaw in your literacy?
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 11:55pmWhen it comes to law enforcement, any harm to a civilian is too much harm.
They are sworn to serve and protect. Period. Not sometimes, not when they feel like it.
They don’t have the luxury to suspend that oath and punch people in the face and beat them in the face with billy clubs like they did that guy at the stadium because they feel threatened in a situation where they are outnumbered and feel like they need to “take control of the situation”.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 11:57pmI don’t have to have ANY personal experience with law enforcement in order to have a valid opinion about law enforcement.
Report Post »WINNEBAGOMAN
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:37amAs a police officer I can’t imagine a scenario in which I would think slapping a person, especially in a crowded public place (like a rowdy after-hours IHOP) would be a tactically good idea. But the woman in the black dress broke the cardinal rule: You do not touch a police officer.
Without knowing all the facts of the incident I am not going to defend the Officer or the woman. But from what is available, she was interfering with his ability to perform his duty, and should have been arrested, or at least ticketed. A punch in the face may have been a bit drastic on the part of the officer. There are officer/subject factors. An example of this is the officer appeared to be stocky, whereas the woman appeared to be fairly small, or average at best. Does a stocky fella need to punch an average or small woman in the face to subdue her?
Wendy’s, McDonald’s, IHOP… can a guy just enjoy a nutritionally devoid meal these day?!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:44am“But the woman in the black dress broke the cardinal rule: You do not touch a police officer.”
Help me out here. In the description under the video, substitute any references to police with “gang member(s)” and then tell me how the situation would pan out in a court of law. Just as a thought experiment.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:48amIn brainwashed, sheeple America, people regularly allow themselves and others to be beaten in public by the Nazis.
Stockholm Syndrome.
The cardinal rule ought to be “you do not touch a civilian”.
Since when does police officers deserve a level of defference exceeding the general public?
We pay their salaries.
They work for us.
They’re supposed to protect and serve us, not beat our brains out in public.
Bullies.
Nazis.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:53am@Mace
“The cardinal rule ought to be “you do not touch a civilian”.
Since when does police officers deserve a level of deference exceeding the general public?
We pay their salaries.
They work for us.”
Exactly correct. I appreciate that they may have dangerous jobs, but so do a whole lot of other people and that doesn’t give them license to beat the **** out of unarmed women.
Report Post »MEESHEL
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:02am@Sinista
Report Post »Are you kidding? As a society, we’ve agreed to certain laws that are in place to protect us. Our job is easy… follow those laws. The police put their lives on the line EVERY SINGLE DAY to enforce the law from those who break them, to keep us safe. One law is that you do not touch an officer when he’s arresting someone else. You certainly don’t slap and hit him multiple times and expect to get a free pass. It‘s the officer’s duty to get the situation under control as quickly as possible. He did. I have no sympathy for her and will be dissapointed if he is reprimanded at all.
Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:19amNo, I’m not kidding.
I wake up every morning and drive my kids to school and all I see is police lurking in every shaded area preying on motorists for revenue, not keeping us “safe”.
They keep beating up civilians.
They do NOT put their lives on the line in the manner you described.
They sit under billboards and prey on motorists for revenue.
The streets are a mess.
They have never demonstrated a capability to secure anything except citation quotas.
Transvestite gets beat up by two black girls….the sky is falling and the earth is cracking in half.
Single white “REAL WOMAN” gets beat up and manhandled by two big burly bullies in a Nazi uniform, and “she deserved it”.
You sheep are so brainwashed.
The sheepdogs are biting the sheep. BAD SHEEPDOG!
Fire the sheepdogs, or the sheep better grow some ram’s horns and start ramming that bad dog on both sides until it is obliterated.
Report Post »Entropy
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:28am“Really”-TOUCH a police officer? So I guess if you “TOUCH” a police officer then thats assault right? You nazis have perverted the meaning of the laws into obsurdity with that baloney. You cops are no better than the rest of us. You are sissies without the guns and 10 guys to back you up. Why do you call for so much backup? Union freaks.
Report Post »krenshau
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:37amThe cardinal rule is do unto others as you would want them to do unto you. NOT do not touch a cop. I respect the law, not the cops. Some are good, but most have over grown egos with stupid ideas like, “Never touch a cop.” You’re right though, if a cop is bleeding out on the ground, I will remember your rule about no touching.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:55amSM – Your biggest complaint seems to be cops performing traffic control by ticketing speeders. Had allot of trouble with that have you? You are much more likely to be killed by a speeding vehicle then you are by an armed assailant. Stop your whining about the cops catching speeders and obey the traffic laws. It’s a matter of safety.
Report Post »Bullcop34
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:58am@WINNEBAGOMAN…you say you’re a cop but you throw the defense of the cop is bigger than the girl so it is not alright to hit her? You must be a desk jockey at best and at worst, Internal Affairs. Try telling that to the Caddo Parish Deputy who was attacked at a bank. He is nearly 7 feet tall and close to 300 pounds. The lady, under 5′5″ and less than 100 pounds. She took a box cutter and sliced ALL the tendons in his arm simply because he was trying to get her to leave the bank due to her causing a disturbance.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:00amMy biggest complaint is traffic tickets?
Have you listened to a single word I have said? Or are you illiterate?
Your argument is predictable and TYPICAL of police and police supporters.
“You must have had some negative experience with police and harbor some resentment for that”.
NEGATIVE!!
10-4?
I can reach my conclusions without ever having had a negative experience with police officers!
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGHP_enUS420US420&q=POLICE+BRUTALITY
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:28pmIn reply to Sinista MACE Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:19am
No, I’m not kidding. I wake up every morning and drive my kids to school and all I see is police lurking in every shaded area preying on motorists for revenue, not keeping us “safe”.
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Uh, don’t know about your town/city/village, but in our city of 84,000, we’ve had three incidents in this school year of people accosting or trying to lure school children into their truck/van/vehicle. Our officers are assigned to monitor different schools during arrival and release for that very reason.
As for speeding tickets, in our State, 90% of that revenue goes to the State, not to the town or city where the ticket was issued. Quite truthfully, it’s actually not in the interest of the department or the city to have officers issuing tickets to speeder. There’s a lot of paperwork involved and very little financial return. One scientific study conducted in our town actually revealed that the people who were most likely to speed on a given road were either neighbors or those who routinely used that street for work related issues.
As for the roads, well, that’s an issue you need to take up with your local Public Works department. I will say that most of the problems on the paved roads come from utility work and not from general wear and tear.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:37am“now video has surfaced showing an off-duty Atlanta cop scuffling with an IHOP patron an slugging her in the face. ”
AND. The word is “AND”.
If the Blaze needs more editors or more writers/journalists, please forward my request to the appropriate parties if you’d be so kind? My email is located in my user information, as you probably know.
As to the article, I do not ever recall this amount of violence in everyday places growing up. And I even mean in the late 1990‘s through the 2000’s. This is more than internet perception, it seems to be a growing trend.
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:08amIt probably was the same only we have camera phones at our disposal now…
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:17amI don’t know Demint. There were bar fights that I recall happening in the towns I grew up in, but they stayed there, in the bars and usually resulted in a stint in the drunk tank and maybe some misdemeanor charges the next day. I cannot ever remember, not once, restaurant brawls being the order of the day. The only place I recall hearing about nasty violence was from specific inner city ghettos of big cities like New York or Chicago, most all of that gang related.
Report Post »Darla_K
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:36amHis mom ought to be real proud of him. The lady should not of tried to get in between the officer and her friend, but does that warrant a punch to the face?
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:06am@ darla it was a slap he only punched AFTER she hit back…. Wrong ? I would say yes but, we need to hear all the facts first and not jump to an obama conclusion , as in the police acted stupidly.
Report Post »1chancey1
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:07amI bet she will be a little more respectful next time.
Report Post »Anarcho Capitalist
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:06pmIt does on this site full of force loving neocons.
Report Post »Mahakala
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:14pmSure it does. You don‘t interfere with an officer making an arrest and you sure as hell don’t hit one. She got what she deserved.
Report Post »IM_UR_HUCKLEBERRY
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 5:14pmYeah… she’s a woman… SO? What’s the point?
Report Post »It it was a guy getting in this officer’s face and preventing him from taking someone in custody, and the guy got punched and handcuffed… would you be making a fuss? You KNOW you wouldn’t.
Women want to play the physical game like a guy… EXPECT WHAT SHE GOT. SHE DESERVED IT.
PERIOD. The Stupid Twit.
Obama Bin Lying
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 5:17pmDaral…here is an interesting thought. When a cop is in the process of performing his duties……Don’t get in the middle, and definately don’t hit him. Gaurenteed, next time whe won’t make that mistake. Because if she does…..she deserves everything she gets
Report Post »north 49
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 12:41amone piss poor cop-like the supreme court said-they are not here to protect
Report Post »jwmarietta
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 10:42amwhy should we respect cops, most of them are crooked and all of them have a sense of power that is undeserved, how freaking easy is it to be a cop. what a joke
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:34amHey biotch, hit a cop and expect to be hit back. You want equall “rights” then the cop has the “equal right” to defend himself!
Report Post »randy
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:39amAmen!
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:40amHe did slap her first as far as I can tell/ When she slaps back…all bets are off. Beat the crap out of her.
Report Post »bluegoldnationdotcom
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:40amIf you watch the beginning of the video the woman has her hand on the cop. Seems to me that you can’t lay your hands on a copy who is trying to arrest or subdue someone. Yeah it looks really bad but this guy puts his life on the line everyday and can’t afford to jack around in stressful situations.
So while the punch seemed excessive, I can understand the need for quick action to get the situation under control.
Report Post »DIOS BENDIGA AMERICA ... JESUCRISTO ES EL SEÑOR!
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:41amWSB radio reported that they did not know it was a police officer. I guess the drunks could not see that he was wearing a uniform. Buckhead partiers eating breakfast before going home to sleep all day then party all night.
I have no sympathy for the gal, she resisted, the officer did his job. I am just glad the lady was not black, then way more would be made of this situation.
Good Job Police!
Report Post »MEESHEL
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:43amSince when did the general public think it was OK to hit a cop? To interfere in an arrest? Crazy people out there. She got what she ‘earned.’ If it had been a man, no one would have bemoaned the cop hitting the guy.
I wonder why they didn’t go back and arrest the one they were attempting to arrest in the first place, though.
Report Post »DIOS BENDIGA AMERICA ... JESUCRISTO ES EL SEÑOR!
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:44am@Sin-is-in-ya, Randall, gu gu Darla
Resist and ye shall receive a beat down as well.
Report Post »mwhaley
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:44amHe was very wrong in hitting the woman. I would have used my taxer.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:47am@DIOS BENDIGA AMERICA … JESUCRISTO ES EL SEÑOR!
“Resist and ye shall receive a beat down as well.”
What a fine, submissive and slavish attitude. You’ll do nicely in the new totalitarian state.
Report Post »Smug
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:47amAre you kidding me he punched her in the face!! He‘s a police officer he’s supposed to act like a professional not a UNION THUG there were enough officers around to help control the situation, this was totally uncalled for. I admire and respect policemen because they have to put up with alot of crap but this was out of line
Report Post »NateD
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:48amWhat a joke of a Cop and a man. That big of a guy needs to strike a female? He should be arrested for battery. But he won‘t because Cops don’t have to follow the law. They can get away with anything…and yes murder too.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:51am“Yeah it looks really bad but this guy puts his life on the line everyday and can’t afford to jack around in stressful situations.
So while the punch seemed excessive, I can understand the need for quick action to get the situation under control.”
Fishermen and high rise construction workers have far more dangerous jobs than cops but they don‘t have license to beat the living **** out of a woman for daring to touch the King’s Servants.
If the King’s Servants cannot learn restraint and judgment, and are scared of every single touch by anybody not in uniform, then they are psychotic or trained to be psychotic, and need to relinquish their badge. There are situations where restraint and appropriate response is called for, this was one of them.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:52amI always hear this crap “he puts his life on the line everyday”.
NO THE HELL THEY DON’T.
Everyday, they’re sitting under a billboard preying on motorists for revenue.
The streets are a mess.
The cops suck and always will.
They have never demonstrated a capacity to secure anything but citations quotas.
They’ll come AFTER you got beat down and shot, and investigate.
They are not going to teleport between you and a criminal to save you.
Protect yourself, carry your pistol, and very soon you will realize we don’t need the police, because we ARE the police.
Oldphoto678
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:53amHey CESSNA152, It’s official. You are an idiot. Maybe you should watch the video again. The cop drew first blood. And just so you understand……You are an idiot!!!
Report Post »1chancey1
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:53amSister Mace pleae tell me you didn’t just go “Nazi” on us. lol.
Report Post »missionarydad
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:57amWow! I am a big supporter of Police Officers, but this could be one of those rare cases where the officer is in the wrong. I cannot gain enough information from the video to be certain, or make a judgement who was in the right either way. I am beginning to wonder what they put in their pancake batter?…restaurants need to make double sure that they do not ever run out of syrup again.
http://www.saywhatyoureallymean.blogspot.com
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:59amCops have it hard enough, and these people who hate cops are idiots! The THIN BLUE LINE keeps the rest of us SAFE, whether you like it or not, we do live by laws, at least we used to, until this Obamination came around and broke them all!!!!!!!!!!
Go ahead rip the cops, when they are gone and the inmates are running the asylum, you lefties will be screaming for help, but true Patriots will help themselves!!! I feel very sorry for the leftist, they live in a delusional world, and they are coming unglued – WE THE PEOPLE are coming to take the power BACK from you communists – GOT THAT DRIFT people!!!!
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:00am@SiNISTAMACE.. Are you F-in stupid ? You asking , where is the outrage about this ? And your second to comment on the story… What the hell is wrong with you ? Can you atleast see what the damn comments are going to look like before you open up your liberal trap ? Dummy…
Report Post »79USMC83
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:02amDid the IHOP call the police on the other patron? What was the initial problem. These videos on the net only show PART of the story. Just like the Lady that the WH had fired over her remarks. Then you watch the whole video and you do see she is a racists!! The other cop was about to step in and subdue her, even set her up for THE PUNCH !!!. Bad policing for sure. The cop totally let go of the origianl complatent. Both the women and Officer were WRONG !!!! Oh and I am sure the women in booth was just minding her own business to start this whole thing!! Will the women sue the videographer for showing her exposed !!! Thank God my 2:00AM drunken nights at IHOP are over !!! I bet alcohol was a big factor in this whole mess !!!
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:05amSister Mace – You’re a punk, you make me sick, you need slapped for stupidity, we are tired of useless people like you, you act like a conservative sometimes, that’s not enough, get lost punk.
Report Post »ME
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:05amYea if I slap a woman and she has the nerve to hit me back, I put the fear of god into her. Just like any other real man would do. Wait what??? I guess that is how some here would roll??
Off duty on top of it, I think I will become a cop a free license to be above the law sounds good to me yea my life is on the line too so can I get a above the law sticker too?
Think about what you are saying we are not a ruled people (yet) why give the power to rule to anyone? No matter how good the intent is?
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:07am@Sinista:
My outrage is this, the cops were doing their job when the woman got involved, if the cop overstepped the boundry of usage of force, then let the investigation determine that along with a criminal suit in the courts of law, and reparations being made in the civilian courts as well.
Right now, it does appear she tried to interfere with the lawful duties of the officer, and in slapping at him she did try to assault an officer of the law. The usage of force matter will need to be addressed seperatly though.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:07amYeah, me too. I am sick of the “ life on the line crap” too. They walk around with the “look at me, I represent the state, mess with me , you are messing with the state” look on their faces. Every notice that when they are confronted by anybody, 15-20 cops show up to gang up on the hapless sap?
Report Post »c10win
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:09amTo all of you calling the Police dumb, stupid, etc…. There was a time when a police officer had take and pass several tests, written and oral, in order to even get a job on the department. Now, in the name of diversity, if you know your abc’s and your colors, you will qualify. Typical government job. You libbies should be more careful in what you’re asking for. You just might get it. ;)
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:12am@Issachar
“Cops have it hard enough, and these people who hate cops are idiots!”
Do I strike you as particularly unenlightened or otherwise possessing a minimal intelligence? Cops are human beings, they can do good or they can do evil. If they do good, I support them. If they do evil, I rightly and justly as is my duty as a moral man, oppose them.
“The THIN BLUE LINE keeps the rest of us SAFE,”
No, I keep my family and myself safe. Even the good cops can do little but show up *after* any kind of crime or violence to take a report. The burden of my safety is, and has always been, with myself. Just as it is with you. If you count on any cop, good or bad, to keep you safe, you’re deluding yourself. They are not omnipresent nor can they be.
“whether you like it or not, we do live by laws, at least we used to, until this Obamination came around and broke them all!!!!!!!!!!”
No, we really don’t live by laws any longer. We are held accountable to whatever “laws” the “leaders” wish us to be held accountable to, and they can and do decide our fate regardless of any law(s) every single day. And it long precedes Obama, though his admin is fanning the flames for certain.
“Go ahead rip the cops, when they are gone and the inmates are running the asylum, ”
When inmates run asylums, they become like a gang or mob. They demand respect at all cost and you can be killed for merely touching one of them or even looking at them the wrong way. Just like today with an increasing number of police. There are good cops, good solid cops and I respect them. I refuse to genuflect and bow to all cops just because they have a uniform and a badge however, that’s simply servile and completely un American.
Report Post »missionarydad
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:15am@79USMC83,
That was my point exactly much of the time there is much more to the story than what is showed. For all we know someone from that table may have thrown some silverware or shouted some profanity that provoked the cops. I do admit that it seemed really strange that they seemed to leave the original person at the table that they were after and turned their attention exclusively on the one they were trading blows with. Then again for all we know they went back in and arrested the other one after they got her secured in the car, who knows?
http://www.saywhatyoureallymean.blogspot.com
Report Post »Corbin_Dallas
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:21amaccording to the video the cop struck the woman first. And from the looks of it without warning.
Report Post »DTOM_Jericho (leaving PA)
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:26amBS. Say bye-bye to your pension. If she was interfering she should have been arrested not assaulted. She was assaulted and should be able to defend herself. All you gung-ho pig sycophants should be proud of her. If you claim the pig should be able to hit her if she hit him; then certainly he should have gotten some ground and pound done on him for hitting her. Not all libertarians are pig supporters. The police state has gotten too large, too arrogant and too power hungry.
With all the being said, what is up with McDonald’s and IHOP?
Report Post »ME
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:31amThink about this Cop Union stand with other Unions (right?). Unions are part of the mechanism bringing Communism to us. I have found no way to reason with a man if you threaten to take food off his table, stand with the union or no job, means food off his table.
Do you think that all the SS guards where all out right evil people? Some where trapped and just had to feed there family or may have lost there lives if they stepped up to do the right thing. Right now doing the right thing is easy and still many chose not to what will happen when its not??????
Cops in no way protect people before a crime is committed, they catch criminals, fine and are a deterrent. In being a deterrent they can protect people but I can be a deterrent by having conceal and carry as well just having the law is a huge deterrent. There are a million deterrents and cops are only one tool not the (“The THIN BLUE LINE keeps the rest of us SAFE,”) that is bull crap that cops tell themselves to justify bad behavior on there part.
Report Post »When the only deterrent for crime is cops, look at a intercity, that is what you get, yea i feel safe there:)
Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:32amSNOWLEOPARD
That’s BS.
We do NOT have to allow the police to violate our rights FIRST, and then seek justice secondary in the corrupt justice system that gives the cops ALL of the benefit of the doubt.
Officer Mehserle got 2 years for executing Oscar Grant in public in front of a train station full of civilian teenagers.
Rodney King.
The list goes so long I don’t want to waste the typing space to demonstrate that the police have an EXTENSIVE history of violence towards civilians.
Google “police brutality” and all your answers are right there.
They need to be stopped.
Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:05am
Sister Mace – You’re a punk, you make me sick, you need slapped for stupidity, we are tired of useless people like you, you act like a conservative sometimes, that’s not enough, get lost punk.
I love you too. I‘m sorry that I don’t subscribe to your borg hive mind, sheep.
I don’t allow myself to be bullied by overzealous police in a Nazi Uniform.
I am a Conservative Libertarian. That means we the people are the police, with arms, and we will NOT be bullied by a Nazi Police State.
I’m sorry (for you) that I’m not like you “enough”.
I don’t seek or need your acceptance.
It’s a little something called “individualism”.
demint.disciple
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:00am
@SiNISTAMACE.. Are you F-in stupid ? You asking , where is the outrage about this ? And your second to comment on the story… What the hell is wrong with you ? Can you atleast see what the damn comments are going to look like before you open up your liberal trap ? Dummy…
I have an IQ of 172.
I am not a liberal, I’m a Conservative Libertarian, a registered Independent, African American, and a Tea Party member who believes in economic, religious, and personal freedoms.
Stop your kneejerk reactions. Everyone who doesn‘t agree with you doesn’t work for Puffington Boast, George Sorrows, and Pedia Patters. We may have agreement in other areas. Take a deep breath.
WSGAC
Just because I don’t support police brutality, doesn’t make me street trash.
I know wealthy businessmen in $5000 suits who doesn’t like police brutality.
Report Post »stephenb.net
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:33amSinista, you hate cops until the day comes when you need one. White woman? I didn’t see a white woman, I saw a stupid woman who tried to interferre with a cop. Stupidity knows no race, it is an equal opportunity offendor. I’m glad the cop clocked her. Maybe next time she’ll think twice about interferring with a guy who deals with garbage all day, needs to carry a gun and has jack waggons like you spouting your anti cop crap in evey major city in the world.
Report Post »Bullcop34
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:40amQuick question…how many of you posters are cops or former cops? How many of you non cop arm chair wanna be attorneys have ever been surrounded by drunk fools at 2 AM, pushing to crowd to go after the police? How many of you have tried to reason with a drunk fool as they try to disarm you during an arrest? Do you folks even know what the Use of Force Continuum is? Look it up and do some research because the officer was well within his limits. Officers can be presented with a situation and meet that force plus one step up the ladder on the chart.
Obviuosly, there was more to the initial video than is being shown. However, it goes back to the basics of do not interfere with a police officer. Didn’t your parents teach you folks any better? Seriously, for those of you coming down hard on the police, walk a mile in our shoes. Not just a weekend ride along with some Captain on the shift, join the force or join the reserve police department and do it all for free and see if your mind changes just a bit. I in no way advocate violence by police and this wasn’t it either. Police work is not pretty sometimes and the harsh reality is that at some point, you have to punch a woman. This first time I treated a woman like a lady, I got kicked in the balls three times in rapid succession. There was not a next time.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:41amWell, Hugo Boss clothing company made Nazi Uniforms.
You know, the business Dennis Kucinich recently rallied outside of to save their jobs? Brooklyn, Ohio? Right down the street from me?
Yea. They also made Nazi Uniforms.
Maybe that’s why the cops and Nazis look so much alike.
Or perhaps, like Glenn says, they dropped the radical pose (skull and crossbones, Nazi regalia, stopped wearing the Nazi hat for the most part-some still do, hired some minorities, etc) to achieve the radical means… Global Prison Planet…
Report Post »My Hero-Allen West-click my name
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:42amI just watched again. Did anyone notice as the cop is leaving and turns to look at the camera he looks like Charlie Sheen on steroids?
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:46am@GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:12am
@Issachar
“Cops have it hard enough, and these people who hate cops are idiots!”
Do I strike you as particularly unenlightened or otherwise possessing a minimal intelligence? Cops are human beings, they can do good or they can do evil. If they do good, I support them. If they do evil, I rightly and justly as is my duty as a moral man, oppose them.
“The THIN BLUE LINE keeps the rest of us SAFE,”
No, I keep my family and myself safe. Even the good cops can do little but show up *after* any kind of crime or violence to take a report. The burden of my safety is, and has always been, with myself. Just as it is with you. If you count on any cop, good or bad, to keep you safe, you’re deluding yourself. They are not omnipresent nor can they be.
“whether you like it or not, we do live by laws, at least we used to, until this Obamination came around and broke them all!!!!!!!!!!”
No, we really don’t live by laws any longer. We are held accountable to whatever “laws” the “leaders” wish us to be held accountable to, and they can and do decide our fate regardless of any law(s) every single day. And it long precedes Obama, though his admin is fanning the flames for certain.
“Go ahead rip the cops, when they are gone and the inmates are running the asylum, ”
When inmates run asylums, they become like a gang or mob. They demand respect at all cost and you can be killed for merely touching one of them or even looking at them the wrong way. Just like today with an increasing number of police. There are good cops, good solid cops and I respect them. I refuse to genuflect and bow to all cops just because they have a uniform and a badge however, that’s simply servile and completely un American.
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Ghost, we are on the same side, and I am somewhat surprised at your response to my defense of the police officers in our country?
Sir, I think you are not looking at the full story here. Sure there are good and bad cops, but the VAST majority are good, decent, honest hard working people, who DO protect you in ways you obviously are not considering. The patrol our neighborhoods and root out criminals, they protect our streets, and they uphold the law. No they cannot be everywhere, but when you need them, they are a phone call away, and minutes to respond. They put their lives on the line for you sir. I think you generalize where it is convenient here, but that is ok, you are entitled to your opinions, doesn’t make them fact, just remember that, with respect, sir. If the thin blue line disappears, the gangs WILL RULE the streets, that is what I was referring to. Watch out, it will happen, when the states finally go broke, in addition, the prisons will be emptied as well, when we cannot pay the guards. A bumpy ride awaits us all – not turning back now my fellow Patriot!!!!!!
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:47amThose of you cheering for a thug who PUNCHES a gal in the face because she made a feeble attempt to push him away from her friend, you make me sick. What a pig and a coward. I don’t know what transpired between the cop and her friend, but obviously her reaction was instinctive. That does not give him the right to thrust his big fat guy fist into her face.
Hey, it looked like they were going to rape her, the way those two goons wrestled her to the floor so her dress was pulled up, and then sat on top of her. Even after they had handcuffed her, they left her sprawled on the floor, underwear showing and unable to get up, just to humiliate her.
Guess the Obama gorillas feel they are demigods. That MFing WH resident has injected violence into every segment of our country.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:47am@Mil-Dot
Report Post »Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:07am
Yeah, me too. I am sick of the “ life on the line ****” too. They walk around with the “look at me, I represent the state, mess with me , you are messing with the state” look on their faces. Every notice that when they are confronted by anybody, 15-20 cops show up to gang up on the hapless sap?
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LOL, I’d like to see you respond, no make that rush to the scene, on a SHOTS FIRED call from the precint. You are clueless and you show it.
Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:50amWe didn’t agree as a society to accept police abuse.
The police started off as robbers robbing travellers on the road.
The people called out for someone to help.
The police then put on their uniforms, and came to the rescue saying “I’ll defend you”.
As the robberies stopped (because the police weren’t doing it anymore) the police patted themselves on the back in front of the people and said “see, we make you safe!”, then proceeded to ask for some donations to sustain themselves.
Those donations soon were not enough to satisfy the robbers-turned-police (they could make more money robbing folks), so they started demanding payment to protect. Road Taxes.
Now they have morphed into basically the same robbers they started off as, but they have authority to do it now, and just prey on motorists and pedestrians for revenue, harassing you for anything they can possibly think of, trumping up as many charges as they can possibly imagine hoping something will stick to sustain their own pathetic existence.
Parasites.
And you all are so used to it.
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:51amNEVER strike at law enforcement. NEVER. Whatever happened prior to her hitting him is unclear. What more, he obviously wasn’t “off-duty” as suggested here. What is clear is that she initiated contact with him first. At that point, all bets are off. The punch to her face? Priceless. Your gender is no excuse for bad public behavior, ladies.
JoeBtfsplk
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:53amSINISTA is RANDALL?
Who‘d o’ thunk ol’ Randall would show up here?
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:57am“Case law”, “Color of Law”, and activist judges have corrupted and replaced the “Word of Law”.
These Nazis simply assume power now, the power explicitly retained for the States OR the People.
A cop recently told me essentially that if there isn’t a law specifically prohibiting an action of any kind, then they will exercise that action. And when he says “law”, he means “case law”, not the word of law.
That means that if a judge ruled in one case that a cop can beat a person about the face and neck for “touching” an officer, then that is license for them to exercise that action in any and all cases at their discretion, even though the word of law may be contrary to that judge’s interpretation of the word of law.
Report Post »greggor
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:00amFrom what I could see, she did not hit the cop first. All she did was gently place her hand on him, and it in no way appeared to be threatening at all.
Report Post »He struck her first.. and she responded by slapping him. Big deal. That was when he really punched her hard.
We don’t know the rest of the story, yet.. but this guy did not act like a man.. especially for a “cop:” who should be trained how to react in such situations.
You don’t do that kind of thing to a woman, except as a very last resort. This does not appear to be that kind of an altercation.
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:00am@ISAACAR
“Ghost, we are on the same side, and I am somewhat surprised at your response to my defense of the police officers in our country?”
There can be areas of respectful disagreement. Please note that I’m not condemning, anywhere, all cops. But I do hold human beings, all human beings, accountable for their deeds, even cops, even soldiers, even Patriots. I have to, else I myself cease to be moral.
“Sir, I think you are not looking at the full story here. ”
I really think I am. Other cops have chimed in on the thread, and people who trained cops, indicating that this was way outside of protocol and inappropriate. That’s my focus. My desire is to *stop* these kinds of belligerent, probably steroid induced, actions because they do in fact cause people to hate cops and that furthers the disintegration of rule of law.
“Sure there are good and bad cops, but the VAST majority are good, decent, honest hard working people,”
I don’t disagree.
“who DO protect you in ways you obviously are not considering. The patrol our neighborhoods and root out criminals, they protect our streets, and they uphold the law.”
Most do. Those that act contrary to these impulses however, deserve condemnation. And that’s my point. We cannot allow ourselves to become servile and submissive to *all* authority, just because some who uphold the law are good people. Individuals matter, in all events, and must be taken as individuals accountable for their own actions.
“No they cannot be everywhere, but when you need them, they are a phone call away, and minutes to respond.”
Not to pick a nit, but by the time they arrive in any situation I’d call them, I’d have already dispatched the person if necessary, or subdued them.
“They put their lives on the line for you sir.”
Very few of them do, most give out traffic tickets.
“If the thin blue line disappears, the gangs WILL RULE the streets, that is what I was referring to.”
If we don’t hold police to rigorous standards of conduct, then the thin blue line will disappear and WILL be replaced by gang like people. That’s why I oppose bad cops doing bad things.
Report Post »TermLimits4All
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:02am@ Sinista MACE, The lady was just trying to break the glass ceiling. Act like a man; get treated like one.
Report Post »ME
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:03am@Bullcop34
WALK A MILE IN THE SHOES almost want to laugh why don’t you walk a mile in the shoes of someone that has had there rights violated by a law enforcement officer. You want to talk about a tough hard road with no brothers, or judges or just about anyone else on your side. Who helps you if there is no video???? The hole point of the walk a mile in others shoes is lost on you completely it’s not to prove your point but to look at the other side of the coin? Have you???
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:03am@Bullcop34 – you have MY support Sir! And just like I would tell a soldier – thank you for your service, SIR! The police are a good for society. The only criticism I have is the union aspect, but you all are free to assemble, and organize. I do have a problem with collective barganing with my tax dollars, but I feel you people don’t get paid enough to go through the crap you do every day. I think privatizing public unions would be best of everyone. I also realize that not all unions are bad either.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:03amI’m not “Randall”.
Who, or what is Randall?
I’m not it.
I’m Sinista Mace and have always been Sinista Mace.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:06amI’m more likely to be killed by bumblebee stings than to be killed in a car crash or attacked by Al Qaeda…
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:07amI repeat:
The sheepdogs are biting the sheep. BAD SHEEPDOG!
Fire the sheepdogs, or the sheep better grow some ram’s horns and start ramming that bad dog on both sides until it is obliterated.
Report Post »BuckOfama
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:08amThank Jebus she was white…….
Report Post »DTOM_Jericho (leaving PA)
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:12am@BULLCOP34
Cops choose the JOB. A JOB. Not some sort of holy sit-on-high martyr. It is an exchange of fiat pay for services. If a cop thinks that it is a thankless or dangerous job then QUIT. It is a job that no cop was forced into. A cop is a human being, not a god, with a badge. When there is a REQUIREMENT (there currently is not) that a cop must respond to a call and an understanding that they work for ME, then maybe, maybe, I’ll care about your gripes on your job as much as you care about my job gripes. (nothing?)
If you think you are some sort of lawyer please tell me the constitutional provision that allows for cops to have the current authorities they have including violating 1st, 2nd 4th and 5th amendment rights. Yes, they are trained to do this; any honest cop will admit it as some have. Cops are trained to lie to get you to talk. Yet if you lie to them it is a crime. Yet, you tell them the truth it’s used against you. (learned that the hard way) Plead the 4th/5th, they detain you for being a smart***.
Try living in a non-castle-doctrine state like PA with an OBSCENE amount of puffed-chest pigs and bs regulations and “case law”. I will be rectifying that problem soon by moving to a state with a castle doctrine and far less pigs; taking my tax dollars with me.
Report Post »OLDBIKEFIXER
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:16amLooks to me like the woman was trying to push the cop away, them got slapped by the cop. Slap a woman for pushing your arm? I don’t think so! He could have just put the cuffs on her without slapping her. Everything that happened after that is an example of what not to do in civilized society, by either civilians or police.
Report Post »DIOS BENDIGA AMERICA ... JESUCRISTO ES EL SEÑOR!
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:26am@ Ghost
Cry me a handful bubba. If i didn’t see the “patron” resist I would feel differently.
Civil obedience is the last defense prior to Revolution. Unless you are an anarchist why would you feel any support of officers is “totalitarian”. You’re an i-d-i-o-t.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:26amsinsta mace,
Report Post »We don’t defend our criminals the woman in the video seem to be trying to stop the officer from arresting someone in the beginning. the officer was hit and he reacted by hitting back. So there’s obviously more to nthe story than the end which we saw. No we whites will leave the defending of criminals based on skin tone to the Van Jones,NAACP,and other racist african groups with in the black community.
American_Joe
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:28amMace if you watched the video you would have seen the woman grabing the cop by his shirt that is called battery on a police officer, so he was well within his right to punch her. Could he have handled it differently, yes he could have. In any case everyone has a right to deffend themselves, even the police
KTSontag
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:35amAnybody who is b****ing about the cop is an idiot. The woman was trying to keep the police from arresting the other person. Now while it looks like he “slapped” her, he really was trying to push her out of the way so that he could do his job. The woman went ape **** on the cop and he had to get the situation under control. Now while in a normal situation a punch to the face may not have been necessary, but he couldn’t get to restraining the woman without physically punishing her to get her to the ground.
Now anybody who says that cops lives aren’t on the line every day, try putting yourself in their shoes for a second. Many people HATE cops. If somebody is a criminal, they may be calculating whether it would be better to be arrested or to KILL the cop and try to run. I‘m sure you’ve heard of people killing police officers on routine traffic stops; well, some motorcyclists have even put single shot guns in their handle bars to shoot police! Police DO put their lives on the line EVERY DAY!
And one more thing for all you babies who think that this was too far. You NEVER go into a fight thinking anything other than “I‘m going to beat the crap out of this person as quickly and effectively as possible so that I DON’T DIE.” You have to assume in EVERY fight that the other person has a weapon because the one time you don’t is the time that you get KILLED. And by the way, he didn’t beat the crap out of her in any way. He punched her in the face and then arrested her. Kudos sir.
The Realist
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:36amSounds like some of us need to watch the video again-maybe even 4-5 more times. The woman was CLEARLY WRONG in BARELY touching (extending her arm to “hold the cop back”) from her friend. WE GET THAT. But the professional, PROPER, WITHIN THE LAW RESPONSE would have been to immediately cuff the woman for interference, and then continue taking care of the initial problem woman. Instead, what we saw, is “Oh, you’re gonna extend your arm and hold me back? You’re getting a punch to the face B***!”
Now of course then the lady clearly snapped, and hit him back (not just an arm hold-out this time), and that may or may not have been wrong-who can really say how we would react after being VIOLATED like that. THAT’S RIGHT-THAT WAS A VIOLATION-YOU AREN’T ABOVE THE LAW POLICE OFFICERS TO BEHAVE THAT WAY. That lady may have been a nutcase, maybe drunk out of her mind, but that was UNCALLED FOR on the part of the COP. For those defending the cop, get a clue.
As I said before, I’ll bet dollars to donuts, when cops like him are out of uniform, they’re off at their UNION RALLIES acting like intimidating thugs and knocking cameras out of people hands while screaming obscenities.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:40amApple Bite: “NEVER strike at law enforcement. NEVER. Whatever happened prior to her hitting him is unclear. What more, he obviously wasn’t “off-duty” as suggested here. What is clear is that she initiated contact with him first. At that point, all bets are off.”
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The video proves you are wrong. The woman did not “hit” him. She put her hand out to try to fend him off her friend, whom the cop was shaking angrily, for whatever reason. The cop then let go of the guy and SLAPPED HER HARD, just for that. So who hit whom first? A second cop rushed to his aid — poor thing was being clobbered by the woman, you see — so this thug let go and moved back away from her reach. Then suddenly WITHOUT ANY FURTHER PROVOCATION, he lunged forward and thrust his fist in her face. If you find that priceless, you have a psychopathic streak in you.
American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:50amTechnically, she laid a hand on the officer first. She should know better then to lay a hand on a police officer who is trying to make an arrest. Because of that act of force (think of it as force, as she was tryign to use physical force to prevent the officer from arresting the other individual) he retaliated. I think the slap may not have been necessary but what was his other choice? From that reach and distance, he couldn’t push the girl away. The girl then got a good punch to his face. At that point, game over. And she was resisting arrest at the point of the take down. I’m a fighter but I know better than to go toe-to-toe with a cop, no matter how wrong he is. I’ll just take him to court later. I know my rights. Those rights go out the window once you assault an officer. Laying your hands on him/her is and can be considered an assault.
I’m actually impressed at how well she took that hit! That wasn’t much of a choke hold but she still took the take down like a champ! And she was still feisty!
How was this officer off-duty but in full uniform?
Report Post »J.D.
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:06amThat’s not right, and he didn’t follow proper police procedure. He should have had total control of the situation just like he is trained to do. To make matters worse, he was off duty, so the proper thing to do was to call for back up and wait until an on duty cop was there. He lost his temper, plain and simple, and he may lose his badge as a result. Police work is extreme, and it is not for every person, you have to live above reproach every single day. Do the right thing at all times, and punching women in the face isn’t above reproach at all. If you were a cop, randy, and the other guy who said biotch, or whatever, you two could speak up, but i highly doubt either of you are police officers or know a damn thing about law enforcement. That cop was out of line, if he can’t handle the stress of being a stand up cop and dealing with people, he has the duty to stand aside.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:08amAmerican_Joe: “Mace if you watched the video you would have seen the woman grabing the cop by his shirt that is called battery on a police officer…”
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Battery? Oh, puh-leeze! What is wrong with some of you? HE was the one grabbing her friend by the shirt and shaking him back and forth like a rag doll. She reached out with the typical puny female tug of the sleeve.
I pity this man’s wife, if he’s got one. He needs anger management therapy.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:09am@DIOS BENDIGA AMERICA … JESUCRISTO ES EL SEÑOR!
“Cry me a handful bubba. If i didn’t see the “patron” resist I would feel differently.”
She was no threat to his being and could have been easily apprehended by his fellow officers at the scene without resorting to punching her in the face in some kind of rage.
“Civil obedience is the last defense prior to Revolution.”
No, civil disobedience is not a last defense, it’s a normal strategy used oftentimes long before any kind of revolution is even thought about.
“Unless you are an anarchist why would you feel any support of officers is “totalitarian”.”
I don’t feel “any” support of an officer is totalitarian. Show me where I said that, specifically. If you can’t, then you must retract the statement or be considered irrelevant to the discussion from that point forward.
“You’re an i-d-i-o-t.”
Ad hominem. Not only does it make you appear to be without a valid defense of your own words, it also paints you out to be incapable of civilized discussion. Clean up your act if you wish to not be ignored. Thank you. Slainte.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:10amCops and people who punch them, golly Darwin awards?
Report Post »To little information to ascertain what transpired prior to this Video to get to where it did. but Bullcop, I’ll bet you think that trying to manage a citizen by reaching across a table is questionable procedure, yes? Seems to me that would be a tactic of last resort, and two burly offices against two women does not seem to meet the criteria of being a last resort situation if handled properly.
Then there’s the woefully stupid act of hitting a uniformed officer, who appears to be in the act of doing his job, which BTW he is sworn to do, on or off duty. Better to try to work it out in compliance, or the courts, better still to not interact because of behaviors.
Ok, now everybody thinks BetterDays loves cops or is one, no and no. But I have a healthy respect for them even if I feel that the greater majority of them are just as bad as the criminals. I might even know a cop or two who just might be honest enough to say to me what I just said to you.
The reason we have cops, is because most people can’t lead disciplined lives within GODs laws, so they bust out mans law to cover our backsides. Hate cops all you want, but give them a break, because they actually do put some very nasty people behind bars, thank GOD.
Until you’ve walked a mile in a cops shoes, don’t pretend to know what they go through, just saying.
Sorry to all shields who post here, thanks for your service.
crackerone
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:10amWatch the other hand!
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:13amsmithclar3nc3
We don’t defend our criminals?
Since when are civilians considered criminals until proven guilty in a court of law?
“No we whites will leave the defending of criminals based on skin tone to the Van Jones,NAACP,and other racist african groups with in the black community.”
What the heck are you talking about, and since when do you speak for “whites” as “we whites”?
You don’t speak for everyone. Speak for yourself.
Police abuse all colors indiscriminately.
You Nazi supporters can stop trying to describe for me what my eyes saw.
My eyes don’t lie. Cameras don’t either.
Police don‘t have the right to touch civilians the same way civilians don’t have a right to touch other civilians unless you‘re effecting an arrest or citizen’s arrest. And even then, YOU DON’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO PUNCH PEOPLE IN THE FACE AND ABUSE CITIZENS.
If a cop touches me, even ever so lightly, I’m falling down like “Ughnnn!“ and crying like my ”My back, my neck, my body is broken!”. Then I’m gonna sue the living daylights out of them.
stephenb.net
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:33am
“Sinista, you hate cops until the day comes when you need one.”
I don’t need the cops at all. I have my own gun and I carry it, and we can even carry it openly in Ohio WITHOUT A LICENSE OR PERMIT. I am the Police. I want my tax dollars back from paying the fake police’s salaries and pensions, those union thugs who prey on the public for revenue.
“White woman? I didn’t see a white woman, I saw a stupid woman who tried to interferre with a cop.”
That’s strange, because when that tr4nny got beat up at McDonalds, all everybody seen was BLACK “gorillas” beating up a WHITE “goy” and feigning outrage.
“Maybe next time she’ll think twice about interferring with a guy who deals with garbage all day, needs to carry a gun and has jack waggons like you spouting your anti cop **** in evey major city in the world.”
Or maybe citizens will get tired of police abuse and revolt against the Nazi Police State Prison Guards, who hire pedophiles and rapists and perverts who like to abuse citizens like psychopaths and molest 6 year olds at the airport and claim it’s for “security”.
Report Post »BSdetector
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:23amHow do you all know the cop hit her first? Because the video begins halfway into the scuffle and that’s all you saw? She was violently resisting arrest and is lucky she didn’t get tasered.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:31amAmerican Soldier (Separated): Technically, she laid a hand on the officer first. She should know better then to lay a hand on a police officer who is trying to make an arrest.
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See, that’s what has me nonplussed. What was that cop trying to do? Pull the poor man over from across the table? ‘Cause all I see is a goon shaking a customer back and force and grabbing him by the back of his collar to try and pull him out of his chair from across the table. Is that how you make an arrest in Atlanta? Or does that sicko in uniform just love to roughen up people?
CHEWYRUNTS
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:33amOh WOW!!! I Love when people think they have done nothing wrong… she hit a cop…. BIIIG NO NO!!!
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:48amEnd Police Brutality NOW!
Report Post »D. Wayne (Vietnam 69)
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:02pmStrike at police, they strike back. Equal force. Is there a problem?, nope. Take her to jail for the night. Enough of these 2 minutes of “fight fame” in public places by vermin.
Report Post »MASTER YODA
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:03pm@Sininsta race: You open your yap every time, to do with skin color, it has. Been exposed, you have, your lie about being a conservative nobody believes. Never cry racist at every turn like you do, a conservative would. Nice try, it somewhere else peddle. Consider yourself busted.
Report Post »stifroc
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:03pmHoly bawls.
#1. why was the cop grabbing the one woman but the shirt trying to pull her from the booth? We don’t know.
#2. The COP SLAPPED the woman FIRST!!! WHAT… THE… F#&K?
#3. I’ll never strike an officer, but if a Cop slaps me first? he‘s gonna hafta empty an entire can of mace on me cuz I’m going to retaliate and DEFEND myself until he can’t get up.
This story has some holes in it. A lot of missing info. As I look at it though, I see the COP acting inappropriately.
This “Sinista Mace” guy? He has some valid points. Primarily the bulk of Cops daily duties are pushing paperwork, and issuing citations. The gun they use the most is the radar gun. Do they put themselves in danger? Yes they do. However I think the greater point Sinista was making is, “Cops wont magically appear and rescue you from criminals! By the time they get there, the criminal is gone and you’re the victim giving a statement. If you want to be safe, you need to be prepared to take care of yourself and your property on your own.”
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:14pmKTSontag: “And by the way, he didn’t beat the **** out of her in any way. He punched her in the face and then arrested her. Kudos sir.”
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Yeah, let’s give him a Medal of Restraint for not knocking her unconscious.
Here’s where your defense of that brute falls flat on its face, pardon the pun. The other officer, whom you will notice did not resort to punching — was ALREADY in the process of restraining the woman, when that goon took aim and punched her. That’s when the level of violence escalated (good job, dude). So he didn’t hit her to restrain her. He punched her because he was angry and wanted to hurt her, period.
Report Post »militiaman
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:14pmIf she were black, this incident would be on the front page of every radical yellow journalistic rag in the country, which reveals how skewed the media has become.
We’re caught between the radicalism of the police and violent attacks by blacks. We need to protect ourselves. That’s why I joined a militia. Attacks on us will not go unanswered. However, we are STRICTLY a law abiding defense group.
There have been about 458 militias formed in this country within the last two years….and counting.
Report Post »westtitus
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:20pmA man should NEVER hit a woman. He should have just grabbed her and handcuffed her or whatever. What a sick nation we have become!
Report Post »Professional Infidel
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:35pm“it never pays to hassle the man”!!
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:35pmI think she has seen to many hollywood movies ,you know the ones, where a 5′4″ 110 pound woman is kicking 6′2″ 225 pound man’s butt or maybe a whole room full of man butt. Wise up lady t.v. is fantasy .
Report Post »proliance
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:39pmCops are trained to respond using their training, not react using their emotion.
That said, he obviously slapped then punched the woman out of anger, not in an attempt to restrain her. He lost it and could have easily put her in the hospital because she dared protect her friend.
This cop needs an invite to MTV’s Bully Beatdown show.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:42pm@Yoda
Mace has been very consistent in his posts on this site that I have seen. I haven‘t seen any posts that would suggest that he’s not a Conservative Libertarian (as am I…just for full disclosure). Furthermore, he didn’t once claim racism. I’ve seen lots of people share things about themselves on this forum in order to make points and/or show a perspective. Methinks it’s a bit odd that you chose to latch onto him being black. I didn’t see you responding to any other racial observations to other posters who brought up the white/black issue.
As for my observations thus far, I don’t understand the infatuation that some have with cops. You all act like groupies at a rock concert. They’re people like you. Doing a job and getting paid for it like you. Some people are buttheads and some people are patient and fair. Why would the same not be true of cops?
To the cops who say “walk a mile in my shoes” I‘d say that if you don’t like your job then quit. Go open a business or build houses or something. Your career choice frustration doesn‘t entitle you to infringe upon people’s rights and it doesn’t earn you idolatry from anyone. I build economic models. You should walk a mile in my shoes. You have no idea what it’s like. So when some fool questions the r-square or bias in my models I have to punch them in the face. If you built models you’d understand. Ridiculous argument.
Report Post »VET4TRUTH
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:44pmWell, this is 2011. We are all equal, man and woman. If you dish it out, expect the same in return. Granted I would not have hit her but I would have maniplutated the arm she presented heavily. I guess for her, better a fat lip than a broken arm. Act like a insurgent, get treated like one. Cops in ATL are on edge as it is. NBP calling for day of rage. These men and women in uniform are patriots and we should not arm chair QB their TTP’s. Cop says “Be Cool’ then you should most likely do just that.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:53pm@Sinista MACE – you sound like you’ve had a deserved slapdown by the police – you’re a thug and a jerk. When the police are off the streets and you need help, good friggin luck. But I have a feeling you’ll be ONE OF THOSE THUGS on the street causing vilence and trouble, you BETTER HOPE LIKE HECK you DON’T run into ME!!!! Your kind make me want to puke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:55pmSome of you are a hoot. You complain and moan about Obama and the government and we don’t follow the constitution and yadda yadda yadda. So carry on about preparing for the worst and the 1984 outcome. When the “government” comes for your guns, or to collect Green Taxes on your home, or to prohibit you from traveling, or any other injustice that we can see on the horizon….WHO DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO DO IT????!!!!!!
For Pete’s sake! You all are so far up these people‘s can’s you can’t see the light of day. The guy who you “thank for the blue line of safety” is going to be the first goon to make you buy health care insurance, will be the first guy to prevent you from traveling without proper papers, will be the one to come for your now illegal weapons, and so on.
They are wooden soldiers. They are union (for the most part). They do as they are told when they are told to do it and they will not be stopped by your resistance. I’m sure there are good cops, I know some. But when they are faced with a moral dilemma of whether to infringe upon your rights or to lose their jobs that feed their families what are they going to chose? Get a grip, they aren’t going to go hungry to protect your rights.
Wake up sheeple.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:01pm@GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:00am
@ISAACAR
“Ghost, we are on the same side, and I am somewhat surprised at your response to my defense of the police officers in our country?”
There can be areas of respectful disagreement. Please note that I’m not condemning, anywhere, all cops. But I do hold human beings, all human beings, accountable for their deeds, even cops, even soldiers, even Patriots. I have to, else I myself cease to be moral.
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Agreed, that we can agree to disagree. Now let me ask this question:
Were you there from the beginning of the problem to witness the whole story? If not, you cannot make the value judgements you are making. Why were the cops there in the first place? This guy was off duty, yes, but why was the on-duty cop called there? Please answer those questions, and I mean no disrespect, I do value your opinions. We’ve had our conversations before, remember a certain Sgt.?
God Bless you and America!
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:05pm@Issachar
WTH? It’s people like you who give us all bad names. Dude is expressing his opinion on a topical matter. I might add he’s doing it with an eloquence and level of civility much lacking in your posts. Rather than disagree with him or tackle him on concept/idea you throw insults and insinuate violence.
Grow Up.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:18pm@Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve- I commended you yesterday for you eloquent and informed arguments about the economy. However, I do not believe you have the facts on this one defending sinista mace, he has called cops NAZI’s (who were racist – the Arian Nation come to mind?), right here on this page – a generalization that is NOT FAIR at all. Nuff Said Sir!
Here are some of his postings:
The cops suck and always will
I have NOT given him the authority to beat up civilians.
He’s law enforcement, not judge, jury, and executioner.
In brainwashed, sheeple America, people regularly allow themselves and others to be beaten in public by the Nazis.
These Nazis simply assume power now, the power explicitly retained for the States OR the People
If a cop touches me, even ever so lightly, I’m falling down like “Ughnnn!“ and crying like my ”My back, my neck, my body is broken!”. Then I’m gonna sue the living daylights out of them.
Parasites.
“Case law”, “Color of Law”, and activist judges have corrupted and replaced the “Word of Law”.
The police started off as robbers robbing travellers on the road.
Well, Hugo Boss clothing company made Nazi Uniforms.
You know, the business Dennis Kucinich recently rallied outside of to save their jobs? Brooklyn, Ohio? Right down the street from me?
Yea. They also made Nazi Uniforms.
Maybe that’s why the cops and Nazis look so much alike
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I do believe the man to be racist, even if he does not come right out and say it, he is using inuendo by referring them to NAZI’s.
Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:24pm@Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Report Post »Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:55pm
Some of you are a hoot. You complain and moan about Obama and the government and we don’t follow the constitution and yadda yadda yadda. So carry on about preparing for the worst and the 1984 outcome. When the “government” comes for your guns, or to collect Green Taxes on your home, or to prohibit you from traveling, or any other injustice that we can see on the horizon….WHO DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO DO IT????!!!!!!
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If they come for my weapons, or try to restrict my freedoms, then they will BECOME the enemy, and they better have kissed their wives and children and have their affiars in order if they become my enemy. Until such time, I will consider them my friend, because I don’t break the law, I have nothing to worry about. If THEY break the Constitution, then they break the law, and all gloves are OFF! I don’t blindly support ANYONE!
MASTER YODA
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:32pmRothbardian: Read most of sinista race’s posts, have I. His feelings are clear and it takes not a jedi to figure out he has an obama sized chip on his shoulder against white people. Free to feel how you wish as am I, you are. Yeesssssss.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:41pm@ Roth & Ghost – I still eagerly await your responses now that I have laid out my case…but all I hear are crickets???
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:42pm@Issachar
Thanks for the reply…and a more civil one than mine perhaps.
I don‘t agree with Mace calling them Nazi’s. It’s not fair. Now, I’ve seen plenty of us (myself included at times I’m sure) launch similar allegations at EPA, ATF, or [name] Czar. It’s easy to do. That being said, I know some wonderful fellas that are cops and that’s not fair to them.
I think his race and where he’s from (I’m nearby) certainly would have colored his view on police differently than me or perhaps you. I think he could say that he has seen things that perhaps we have not. I understand his opinion and point of view. I’m not as quick to throw the baby out with the bathwater as he is, but I get where he’s coming from.
He represents a 180 view from people on here who seem to have some sort of cheerleader / quarterback thing going with cops. Having those two views can be inflammatory.
I would put myself closer to Mace on the debate though. He brings up some good points. If you remove the connotation from Nazi’s you are left with fascism. Our economic system is readily becoming a textbook definition of that. Furthermore, our leadership has blatant disregard for rights and has clearly stated that the goals should be things like “social justice”. Our own President has said the constitution is a “charter of negative liberties”. When you have leadership willing to give policy/orders in conflict with civil liberty and a court system who looks the other way on police conduct then you have the seeds for a fascist….and yes, Nazi like outcome. The only prohibition to this would be the restraint of the police. The unionized police. Even the nicest cop is going to be faced with a choice, disobey orders and lose my job or go along with it. I would guess this was also the case with most Nazi’s. As I pointed out, when you come into disagreement with your government it will be these people on the front lines opposing you….not Obama, not Holder, not Reid, not Pelosi, not Geitner. They give the orders, the men in blue follow them or else.
The point I’m trying to make is the one Glenn has made. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. The cop who arrests a criminal is not my friend. He is a tool of the state…no more, no less. It takes a scant amount of propaganda and “policy” for each of us to be the “criminal” or the “threat”. Don’t think for one moment when that day comes that your “friend” won’t drop a baton on your head without remorse.
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Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:45pm@Issachar
“@ Roth & Ghost – I still eagerly await your responses now that I have laid out my case…but all I hear are crickets???”
It’s lunch time, I do attend to things outside the internet from time to time. :)
If you wish to agree to disagree, that’s fine by me. It seemed a fitting place to call it a discussion and part ways on the thread with amiable feelings.
Report Post »TruthHurts
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:46pmI am embarrassed that so many Blaze readers think the cop was right, just because he was a cop. I don’t agree with the woman was was interfering, but he took a full swing at her. She is less than half his weight and size and that was completely unnecessary. Before you are so ready to defend this man, let’s see his history. I wouldn’t be surprised if it is not glowing.
Report Post »No man should take a swing like that at a woman, he could have seriously hurt her or even killed her. There were plenty of other ways he could have handled it and we would not be talking about him right now.
I’m as Conservative as it comes, but I was also taught never to hit a woman, never mind take a full swing with my power hand at her. Her little slap was nothing more than a swat to him and what he should have done was subdued the person he was trying to arrest then dealt with her.
Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:49pm@ Yoda
Point taken. I will try to be more observant. Admittedly I don’t read all the forums and will concede that I have had a limited (but positive) experience with mace.
@Issa
I get what you are saying. I fear, however, that “I don’t break the law” is relative. The “law” is not clear and has now become relative. There are how many thousands of pages of US federal statutes? How many more agency statutes like the EPA? How many executive orders? State laws? Local ordinances? County?
I will bet you dollars to donuts that you are out of compliance with something in that mess of rules. Some of them disagree with each other, so it’s almost a certainty that we have to be. Our “law” is more about what is enforced. Have you not heard of “domestic terrorist” being used? How long until that is a thought crime? The line of “legality” moves constantly and with a sprinkle of propaganda that line can easily end at your doorstep.
Your local police officer is a emotionless arm of that machine.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:55pmMaster Yayo
You can’t provide ONE SINGLE STATEMENT to prove that I have something against white people.
Not one.
It is interesting that you automatically associate the police with white people, however.
Very interesting indeed.
You are dismissed, paduan.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:57pm@Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Great posts, as always from what I’ve read. If you’re ever up around Columbus, drop me a line and we can go out for a beer or two! :)
Slainte
Report Post »Anarcho Capitalist
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:02pmyou people are sick.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:04pmI call them Nazis based on a number of things, a few of them namely:
Their demonstrated history of violence towards civilians.
Their Nazi Uniform.
My color, neighborhood, and other factors don’t neccessarily have any bearing on my conclusions.
Like I keep saying, I can make a very damning case for abolishing the police just from the multitude of instances of brutality against civilians already demonstrated and freely available for any ostrich with their head in the sand to research for themselves.
Then again, I could shut my mouth, and let you continue to be molested by TSA and watch as they roll it out onto your streets and everywhere and start getting all touchy feely and indignant with you, who pay their salaries also.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:13pm@GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:45pm
@Issachar
“@ Roth & Ghost – I still eagerly await your responses now that I have laid out my case…but all I hear are crickets???”
It’s lunch time, I do attend to things outside the internet from time to time. :)
If you wish to agree to disagree, that’s fine by me. It seemed a fitting place to call it a discussion and part ways on the thread with amiable feelings.
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I have zero hard feelings toward you sir! But you have now decided, since you have been beaten at your own game, NOT to answer ANY of my questions, that makes me feel sad, I used to respect what you had to say, not any more!
CharlesReese
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:14pmAmen to that!
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:18pm@ Jefferson
I just may take you up on that one. Have a buddy down in C-Bus I visit from time to time. When I head that way I’ll try to shoot you a line on here.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:18pm“I have zero hard feelings toward you sir! But you have now decided, since you have been beaten at your own game, NOT to answer ANY of my questions, that makes me feel sad, I used to respect what you had to say, not any more!”
WTF?
You suggested we agree to disagree. In any other discussion I’ve had, in real life or on the internet, that’s a call for peace and a cessation of the discussion on good terms. Whatever questions you pose after that I assumed were rhetorical or “things to think about”.
To answer them though: As I do not need to be pregnant to know that abortion is wrong, so in fact I do not need to be there and have seen every single movement to know that a 280-ish pound man punching a disarmed woman in the face, clearly out of anger as he brushed aside his partner trying to restrain her so he could punch her, is wrong. Cops must use force to control and restrain, not to punish. What he did was clearly punishment and thus, unacceptable behavior from *any* grown man, whether he’s a cop or not.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:18pm@Roth
He represents a 180 view from people on here who seem to have some sort of cheerleader / quarterback thing going with cops. Having those two views can be inflammatory.
I would put myself closer to Mace on the debate though. He brings up some good points. If you remove the connotation from Nazi’s you are left with fascism.
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Sir, I had not doubt Sinista has a 180 degree view, that we can agree on, but it does not make his argument any stronger. I don’t cheerlead brutality, and sure it may happen from time to time. Let me also ask you this, same questions as I posed to Ghost, who refuses to answer:
Were you there from the beginning of the problem to witness the whole story? If not, you cannot make the value judgements you are making. Why were the cops there in the first place? This guy was off duty, yes, but why was the on-duty cop called there? Please answer those questions, and I mean no disrespect, I do value your opinions.
As to Fascism, it is HIS and OUR Commander-In-Chief that has promulgated that here, GM, AIG, and the rest that got illegal bailouts! So did Bush. Does that not make you pause just a bit?
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:22pm@ Issa
I don’t mean to dodge a question posed to me. I have to be honest, in this long thread I must be missing it. Can you repeat it for me and I’ll do my best to reply?
Report Post »Long Form in Ya FACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:23pmHe shouldn’t have punched her. All she wanted to do was see Obama’s long form. He only hit her cause she’s black.
Report Post »mtorres20
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:24pmYou shouldn’t complain too much if your rights are violate by the Police since your not willing to defend yourself. If Everyone carried a Gun the Police and Patrons would be much more respectful knowing that wrong move could be fatal. This of course would mean there would be less police and those Police would be more professional otherwise they be dead (Great Incentive). Police is 19th Century invention and perhaps should be limited in our kind of society since it seems to breed more crime. If everyone carried a gun you would have less victims. Gunfree society inspire cowardly criminals. Try robbing a bank in town with everyone armed. Have a bad attitude change or someone will blow hole in your head. Depending on the Police has produced victim like society. Self reliance is the cure.
Report Post »ds2244
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:35pmSorry I would have ben going to jail. What the hell is an off duty officer doing jacking with people anyway. The article states this. I have all the respect in the world for the men and blue, but this guy was no man, just a fricken bully with a badge.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:37pm@ Issa
You wrote:
“Were you there from the beginning of the problem to witness the whole story? If not, you cannot make the value judgements you are making. Why were the cops there in the first place? This guy was off duty, yes, but why was the on-duty cop called there? Please answer those questions, and I mean no disrespect, I do value your opinions.
As to Fascism, it is HIS and OUR Commander-In-Chief that has promulgated that here, GM, AIG, and the rest that got illegal bailouts! So did Bush. Does that not make you pause just a bit?”
I was not there to observe to witness the whole story. And therein lies a fault in both of our arguments. Your defense of the police action could be equally damaged by that missing information as my indictment of it no? I’m not sure exactly where you are going with the “why were they there” question. It seems leading. Perhaps you are suggesting that they were summoned by something such as a 911 call. If they were summoned does that change the situation surrounding the officer’s actions? How about if they were just there eating pancakes? I’m not following. Now, if information came out that the woman had threatened to kill the cop before the film started rolling or if she said she had a gun/knife or if someone had reported to him earlier that one or both were true…that would change things in my mind. However, given the coverage of this story I would be a little surprised if that were true that it wouldn’t be reported. Not saying it couldn’t be but that it would be unlikely. So ultimately we are left with what we are able to observe are we not? Help me understand what I’m missing.
As to the fascism question…Obama is took what Bush did and put it on steroids. Both were terrible Presidents from a free market and civil liberty perspective. And in a definitional way both were/are fascists. Yes, it gives me a great deal of pause.
Report Post »RedPillPatriot
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:43pmUmmm….. Did you guys see a different video than I did… It looked to me as if the cop slapped her across the face first! then she started swinging. Ummm. If a cop slaps me across the face he should expect to get his @ss kicked! I have utmost respect for their job (maybe not fitness, based on these guys) but I also have respect for myself and my rights.
Report Post »Long Form in Ya FACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:45pmShe tried to get Rooty Tooty with him so he knocked her Fresh N’ Fruity.
Report Post »GODSAMERICA
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:00pmAs “intelligent” as she acted she had to have voted for obama. In either one of those acts, brains and good sense was not allowed anywhere around.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:03pm@Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:18pm
“I just may take you up on that one. Have a buddy down in C-Bus I visit from time to time. When I head that way I’ll try to shoot you a line on here.”
Sounds good, look forward to it!
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:08pmIssachar
You sound like you would like to be abused by the police and see the police abuse others.
Typical sheep. Praising the sheepdogs biting the sheep.
You call me a jerk, but then respond just like a jerk to an opinion that differs from yours.
I don’t rely on the police like typical sheep.
I rely on the 2nd Amendment.
You internet toughguy act doesn’t impress me, either.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:13pm@Roth – the difference is I am not cutting them down, nor defending them in this case. But Sinsta is degrading the whole police force as a whole as brutal, NAZI, thugs. You seem to ID with him, because he has this 180 degree thing, and both arguments a FALSE!!! So let’s all be very real here shall we?
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:16pm@sinista mace – you wrote:
Like I keep saying, I can make a very damning case for abolishing the police just from the multitude of instances of brutality against civilians already demonstrated and freely available for any ostrich with their head in the sand to research for themselves.
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Let me ask YOU a question now:
How many POLICE officers (your NAZI’s) have been KILLED in the line of duty just this year alone, and I am talking by gunshots, run over by motorists and the like?
Answer that one smart one, then tell me they‘re still Nazi’s, you are a sad sad little fella, and you have the brain of an amoeba for saying the things you do – you generalize on just about everything.
Report Post »Long Form in Ya FACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:19pmThe way she was showing her butt in public, she must have been a tea ******. They don’t show any class in large groups.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:20pm@Ghost you wrote:
WTF?
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To answer them though: As I do not need to be pregnant to know that abortion is wrong, so in fact I do not need to be there and have seen every single movement to know that a 280-ish pound man punching a disarmed woman in the face, clearly out of anger as he brushed aside his partner trying to restrain her so he could punch her, is wrong. Cops must use force to control and restrain, not to punish. What he did was clearly punishment and thus, unacceptable behavior from *any* grown man, whether he’s a cop or not.
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Well sir, you compare this to pregnancy and abortion? You are a joke!
You chose NOT to see she intgerfered with an arrest, and struck the cop first; quite a selective viewing. I can see now that you do have a bias now, but hey, that’s ok, your ENTITLED!!
Have a good day sir, and we DEFINATELY DISAGREE!
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:23pmBTW everyone I AM SGT.CRUST…see I can be a sane person and not call people names, etc…I guess some of you will now call be bi-polar LOL!!!
Report Post »ReddenBlack
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:26pmI live in Atlanta, and the police are absolutely horrible. You want to know why police get shot? Becuase they behave like this.
“I don’t cry when the police die, cause they probably deserve it.” – Corporate Avenger
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:30pm@Anarcho Capitalist
Report Post »Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:12pm
I hate cops. Wish people would just start killing them.
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You better hope no one reports your sorry azz boy! I sure hope we run across each other sometime, I’ll teach you a few lessons about manners son!
Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:31pmIssachar
Don’t make me compare the amount of police killings to the amount of police brutality cases.
Brutality DWARFS police killings.
“Answer that one smart one, then tell me they‘re still Nazi’s, you are a sad sad little fella, and you have the brain of an amoeba for saying the things you do – you generalize on just about everything.”
They’re still Nazis in a uniform who dropped the radical pose to achieve the radical ends by removing most of their Nazi regalia and hiring some minorities.
As far as your assaults on my intelligence, I thoroughly demonstrated that by thrashing you in debate and forcing you to result to insults and responses to my comments instead of taking the initiative to actually counter my arguments with something tangible.
I defeated you as SGT CRUST, and your other false identities.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:33pmAnarcho Capitalist
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:12pm
I hate cops. Wish people would just start killing them.
He didn’t make a threat, he made a statement.
Report away, police state informant snitch SGT CRUST.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:33pm@DTOM_Jericho (leaving PA) – you sir are a horses arse!
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:35pmThe police AS AN INSTITUTION have demonstrated a severe contempt and hostility towards members of the general public of all colors and creeds.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:36pm@TruthHurts
Report Post »Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:46pm
I am embarrassed that so many Blaze readers think the cop was right, just because he was a cop. I don’t agree with the woman was was interfering, but he took a full swing at her. She is less than half his weight and size and that was completely unnecessary. Before you are so ready to defend this man, let’s see his history. I wouldn’t be surprised if it is not glowing.
No man should take a swing like that at a woman, he could have seriously hurt her or even killed her. There were plenty of other ways he could have handled it and we would not be talking about him right now.
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LOL, let me get this straight to you blind one, this idiot woman was interfering a arrest, of unknown cause to you or I. And I guess it would be ok for her to hit him or gouge out one of his eyes for you to understand the danger in situations like that? You are a hypocrit!
Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:37pm@Issa,
I realize the question wasn’t posed to me, but I would like to chime in nonetheless.
You wrote:
“How many POLICE officers (your NAZI’s) have been KILLED in the line of duty just this year alone, and I am talking by gunshots, run over by motorists and the like?”
I would respond with a few points:
1. What is the mortality / morbidity rate of a police officer compared to other professions? I can promise you that it is not the top. There are plenty of professions with greater risks. Getting killed while handing out a speeding ticket is tragic, just as is falling off a fishing boat or getting crushed at a steel plant or any other profession related death. The policeman’s death is no more heroic than the other men in my opinion. He’s doing a job with risks like thousands or millions of other people do every day.
2. I can distinctly remember a scenario in KS years ago where two cops were killed while doing a drug raid when they didn’t announce they were police. They just kicked in the door in the middle of the night for that “element of surprise”. The occupant shot and killed two of them. They were held up as fallen heroes. Should they have been? If your door blew open at 2AM would you shoot who did it or would you wait to get the facts? Point is, police also die because of their own choices.
3. Police are not special. They are citizens like you and me. Putting them on pedastools only exacerbates the growing “god complex” that many seem to be gaining. They do a job like anyone else. They don’t “keep you safe”. When you are shot or beaten or robbed they come and do the paperwork. If you’re lucky, they might investigate the crime. They are capable of good. They take risks to help people at times…so do other citizens. They also are capable of bad. They plant evidence or take bribes or work over suspects or lie to suspect to illicit responses…just like other citizens (kinda).
You should respect a cop like you’d respect your neighbor. No more. No less.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:46pm@Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:08pm
Issachar
You sound like you would like to be abused by the police and see the police abuse others.
Typical sheep. Praising the sheepdogs biting the sheep.
You call me a jerk, but then respond just like a jerk to an opinion that differs from yours.
I don’t rely on the police like typical sheep.
I rely on the 2nd Amendment.
You internet toughguy act doesn’t impress me, either.
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Hey putz, I will be MORE THAN HAPPY TO MEET YOU ANYTIME AND ANY PLACE to settle your BS. And I won‘t have to lean on the 2nd amendment you pistol c’rapper! I won;t hide behind a gun like you would, so that makes you a punk and a sissy! You don’t want to go toe to toe with me little man, I guarantee you that much!!!
mill
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:50pmNO, HE SLAPPED HER….he should have handled things differently
he is wrong
Report Post »rgranger
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:57pmThe days of treating a lady like a Lady stopped when they started carrying knives and guns.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:01pm@Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:31pm
Issachar
Don’t make me compare the amount of police killings to the amount of police brutality cases.
Brutality DWARFS police killings.
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You can’t answer the question, you won’t even bother to answer the question, and that exposes you as a thug and gutless. You are about as sincere as something that drops into my commode! You are a racist pure and simple, And you’ve never owned me as this name or Sgt.Crust either, get over yourself already son, you’re shoing your arse!
Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:09pm@roth
would respond with a few points:
1. What is the mortality / morbidity rate of a police officer compared to other professions? I can promise you that it is not the top. There are plenty of professions with greater risks. Getting killed while handing out a speeding ticket is tragic, just as is falling off a fishing boat or getting crushed at a steel plant or any other profession related death. The policeman’s death is no more heroic than the other men in my opinion. He’s doing a job with risks like thousands or millions of other people do every day.
2. I can distinctly remember a scenario in KS years ago where two cops were killed while doing a drug raid when they didn’t announce they were police. They just kicked in the door in the middle of the night for that “element of surprise”. The occupant shot and killed two of them. They were held up as fallen heroes. Should they have been? If your door blew open at 2AM would you shoot who did it or would you wait to get the facts? Point is, police also die because of their own choices.
3. Police are not special. They are citizens like you and me. Putting them on pedastools only exacerbates the growing “god complex” that many seem to be gaining. They do a job like anyone else. They don’t “keep you safe”. When you are shot or beaten or robbed they come and do the paperwork. If you’re lucky, they might investigate the crime. They are capable of good. They take risks to help people at times…so do other citizens. They also are capable of bad. They plant evidence or take bribes or work over suspects or lie to suspect to illicit responses…just like other citizens (kinda).
You should respect a cop like you’d respect your neighbor. No more. No less.
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I won’t have to write a book to glom over facts like you do.
Does it matter what profession one dies in to have respect for a PERSON? How many coal miners are confronted by drunk/drug induced murderers pointing a gun at them?
2. If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime. You seem to forget it was a drug house, so you defend them over the police? ugh, ignorance is bliss I guess.
3. You think police on write traffic tickets? you are a moron! Gee let’s see when the riots are going on in the streets, I wonder who that is in the those ‘NAZI’ uniforms protecting life and property.
You guys can take your one sided arguments and shove em sideways! You make me SICK!
Report Post »johnbarlycorn
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:12pmI understand and appreciate the innate desire to defend the police because we all want to believe that they are on our side and protect us. I also understand that video can take a snapshot of an event and leave the viewer with a totally wrong understanding of the event. After viewing this video I do believe that the officer’s initial physical action – a slap – makes the policeman look thuggish, unprofessional, and acting outside of recognized approved actions in dealing with citizens in an escalating physical situation. The initial slap, her flailing about, followed by the officer’s straight right punch, nor the ensuing WWF contest is understandable, acceptable, or contributor to the public safety. If this is an acceptable level of professionalism in a non-life threatening situation what does the application of deadly force by this officer look like? Poor behavior and insults, if in-fact that was the catalyst for this event, should not produce this type of result: the Police Force appearing like a third world corrupt gang. The reason why I respect police, aside from their approved status in the application of deadly force, is that their profession is so difficult. When the rest of the story is presented there maybe mitigation and extenuation but of all of the submission holds taught at public safety academies, none were demonstrated in this fracas.
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:14pmIn reply to: c10win Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:09am
To all of you calling the Police dumb, stupid, etc…. There was a time when a police officer had take and pass several tests, written and oral, in order to even get a job on the department.
Don’t know what state you are in, but in my state, there are several types of tests, physical, medical, written, oral and a lie detector test that a candidate has to pass before being admitted to the Police Academy.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:21pm@Taquoshi – A VERY good point, just look a Dayton OH, where they had to dumb down the tests for minorities and the almost illiterate to be a cop, I agree that that is part of the problem. But these peckerwoods who condemn EVERY cop for the actions of a few, or have no respect for the police, then have no RESPECT FOR THE RULE OF LAW, and have no respect for the Constitution.
Report Post »EP46
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:24pmWhat is it about IHOP that lures all these violent people?
Report Post »MASTER YODA
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:24pmRothbardian: Like a very level headed nice guy you sound. Very nice talking to you, it is.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:25pmHe hit a woman in the face. There is no way he was in danger from her. And you don’t hit women in the face. Police aren’t supposed to hit ANYONE in the face. That is not proper procedure. To slug a woman in the face puts him beyong the bounds of respect as a policeman. He is a thug with a badge.
I would have that pig, and yes, when a policeman acts THIS badly I will call him the swine he is, I would have him ridden out on a rail. We expect professionalism from those we authorize to use deadly force.
Police should be given respect, but that entails coming down hard on those who show they clearly don’t deserve it.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:25pmCongratulations!
You can spell “putz”!
Once again, your internet tough guy approach doesn’t impress me and my Jeet Kune Do training and my firearms. BTW, I’m 200lbs of lean mandingo and bench press over 350lbs 25 times.
“You can’t answer the question, you won’t even bother to answer the question, and that exposes you as a thug and gutless. You are about as sincere as something that drops into my commode! You are a racist pure and simple, And you’ve never owned me as this name or Sgt.Crust either, get over yourself already son, you’re shoing your arse!”
There is no need to answer the question, because I don’t accept the premise, and totally annihilated the foundation of your argument.
I can simply make this statement and it will always be true.
Police brutality DWARFS police killings.
Chew on that.
The one showing their arse is the one who can’t provide one racist statement that I made, and keeps equating my comments to racism when were talking about police brutality against citizens of all colors, in this case, a white woman.
Trounced, again.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:28pmPolice brutality was occurring way before any “dumbed down tests” were ever administered.
“Cop” out.
Report Post »DTOM_Jericho (leaving PA)
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:34pm@ISSACHAR
Report Post »You have proven my points for me. Typical lib mentality (whether you are lib or not), when wrong attack the opponent. It’s called ad hominem. There is no constitutional provision for police protection. Case closed and I accept your surrender based on your infantile “counter argument”.
Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:40pmTaquoshi
You said “Uh, don’t know about your town/city/village, but in our city of 84,000, we’ve had three incidents in this school year of people accosting or trying to lure school children into their truck/van/vehicle. ”
So have my city.
It hasn’t stopped because the cops are sitting under a billboard and writing tickets to motorists trying to get to work and get their kids to school during both rush hours of the day.
“Quite truthfully, it’s actually not in the interest of the department or the city to have officers issuing tickets to speeder.”
Yea right, that‘s why the Supreme Court of Ohio has ruled that officers don’t have a burden of proof when it comes to issuing speeding citations, and that’s why the city is laying off officers and replacing the billboard babysitters with a HOARD of speeding cameras.
That’s why the police are lobbying my representatives to steal more tax dollars from me to increase public contributions to their pensions from 19.6% to 25%.
That‘s why nobody believes the cops when they claim they don’t have quotas or that it isn’t in their interest to write citations.
In my city, that money goes directly into the general fund, and the cops are paid from the general fund. Therefor it is in their interest.
“There’s a lot of paperwork involved and very little financial return. ”
BWAHAHAHAHA!
Roads?
Our roads are crumbling, but there is that brand new shiny traffic camera, and there goes those brand new police vehicles, and there goes that big stimulus check from the Federal Government to “save or create” more Gestapo jobs…
Police are Armed Union Thugs who protect the politicians while they rob the peasants to give to the police and other unions.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 5:06pm@DTOM_Jericho (leaving PA)
Report Post »Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:34pm
@ISSACHAR
You have proven my points for me. Typical lib mentality (whether you are lib or not), when wrong attack the opponent. It’s called ad hominem. There is no constitutional provision for police protection. Case closed and I accept your surrender based on your infantile “counter argument”.
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What is a militia? Just like the unions claim they are legal based on freedom of assembly? Ya right, you can call me whatever you want, but LIBERAL????????? ROFLMAO, that is priceless. Tighten the bolts on your neck, they seem to be coming loose!
Obama Bin Lying
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 5:10pmIHOP seems to be the most dangerous place on earth it seems. This is probably the fifth vid this year of someone getting a smackdow of one sort or another…I am going to Bickfords from now on
Report Post »Obama Bin Lying
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 5:13pmI don’t know…maybe it is just me. But when a cop shows up, and tries to take your friend (for whatever reason) Don’t hit the cop. For thou shalt need a dentist in the morning.
Just saying
Report Post »The Wookie
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 5:21pmShe didn’t get her lights turned out and got up fast, so the punch wasn’t that hard. She should consider herself lucky. In a crowded escalated environment I thought the cop showed good restraint!
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 5:27pm@sinista mace –
They’re still Nazis in a uniform who dropped the radical pose to achieve the radical ends by removing most of their Nazi regalia and hiring some minorities.
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You are so ignorant you don’t even KNOW you are a racist. The NAZI term is a ‘racist’ term.. You also are ignorant of the fact NAZI is a LEFT WING IDEOLOGY!!! Man take your tripe and go move to Cuba, N. Korea or Iran and try to speak your mind there, they’d take your jeet and stuff it down your throat. You can either wake up from your nightmare and become a true American or you can follow Odongo to your Communist Utopia; however, if you take the latter tack, you will be very sorry you did, for MANY reasons.
DTOM_Jericho (leaving PA)
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 5:36pm@ISSACHAR
Report Post »Um you should really read. I was comparing the mentality you were displaying. I even parenthetically expounded that you may not be lib. I did not think you were. Thus, you demonstrated defeat again with your … I don’t even know what to call it except infantile name-calling? Let me be clear, I am describing your actions. I don’t even know what to say about your “tighten the bolts”? Uh, sure okay if that works for you???? I feel sad that you defend your ad hominem actions by trying to accuse me of the same.(that is also a lib tactic… just pointing that out) The only thing I called you was, wrong.
Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 5:43pm@DTOM_Jericho (leaving PA)
Report Post »Posted on April 27, 2011 at 5:36pm
@ISSACHAR
Um you should really read. I was comparing the mentality you were displaying. I even parenthetically expounded that you may not be lib. I did not think you were. Thus, you demonstrated defeat again with your … I don’t even know what to call it except infantile name-calling? Let me be clear, I am describing your actions. I don’t even know what to say about your “tighten the bolts”? Uh, sure okay if that works for you???? I feel sad that you defend your ad hominem actions by trying to accuse me of the same.(that is also a lib tactic… just pointing that out) The only thing I called you was, wrong.
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Let me enlighten you on something, go read ALL of my posts, I tried to be dignified and state my case, and all I get back was WTF? and such, and more one sided arguments! I am too tired of playing keyboard with losers, who think they know everything, and know nothing! I will attack with any kind of words I chose, it is called the 1st Amendment. And you jump in at the end, and also make generalizations about me. I do not CARE what you or ANYONE here on this world thinks about me – GOT THAT! Have a lager and so will I, maybe it will settle me down a bit – I can;t stand lies and half-truths, period. I never once defended this cop, not once, but I tried to point out the other side of things, AND the fact NO ONE HERE was there to witness the whole thing, yet everyone is an expert witness all of a sudden.
US_SOLDIER
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 5:55pmSince when do cops have the right to punch a person without them being assaulted? Yes some of you will argue that she had her arm on his arm but really is that assault? The cop blatantly punched her in the face first so she retaliated with punches. I support her actions. No she should not have interfered if the cop was trying to arrest the other girl but come on people she got punched in the face by someone whose job it is to serve and protect, not assault and pummel. Seems like this is a normal occurance after 9/11 and some of these responses prove that it‘s becoming so normal that people are just accepting that it’s totally cool for cops to punch citizens. Most police officers are professional that Ive had dealings with but all it takes is those few bad one’s to make them all look bad. They grow more bolder everytime we allow this behaviour. They slowly encroach more and more on your rights everytime you cheer them for actions like this. The police are being militarized across the nation since 9/11. Since when do cops need M4/AR-15′s, uparmored vehicles and mitary uniforms and gear? I being a soldier can understand threat level protection but uparmored vehicles? really? Ive seen numerous pictures on the web of police officers wearing military ACU’s. That’s our uniform not that of a police officer. They have neither earned nor are allowed to impersonate a military soldier. Just the same as I cant throw on a police outfit and it be okay. Everyone should be outraged when a servant of the people punches a citizen in the face but sadly I dont see much of that today
Report Post »Mirage
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 6:00pmJust what we need…another coward cop that beats on girls…probably a wife beater…how come some of the men at the IHOP didn’t defend her? Because you are castrated….that’s why!
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 6:11pm@US_SOLDIER – I thank you for your service! Let’s say you were surrounded by a hostile crowd, and you were called in for a disturbance. You are trying to get to the person causing the trouble, and now you have a second person flaling about at you, tell me you wouldn’t drop one of them? That woman was out of line, she could have gouged out an eye, or cause bodily harm, just because she is a woman does NOT exempt her from obeying the law. Should the cop have punched her, probably not, but you will notice they were outnumbered (as they usually are), by beligerant people, yelling and such, it was a hightened state, have you ever been there, and can you tell me you can think 100% clearly? If so, man I will salute you 10 times!!!! Compound that with the fact they have to do this day in day out, and I bet it does get old, still no defense for the punch in the face, you try it for a while. try having people look at you like the enemy every day, and curse you and shoot at you, I don’t think the argument stands up to just condemn the officer. Was ANY of us there to witness the whole thing, nope.
Report Post »cadejo69
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 6:17pmThis guy hits like a girl…….
Report Post »DTOM_Jericho (leaving PA)
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 6:24pmissac or whatever. this isn’t about what you care about concerning opinions of you. you didnt attack anything, you made your points invalid. I did see (I think it was you) something about “the harder they fall and hiding behind a weapon”. If that was you, funny you claim a right(free speech) and it’s bad***; if someone else would it’s hiding. Lib reasoning? I’m done with you. You may go.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 6:24pmI just watched the damn thing yet again…to all of you cyclopses out there. The cop was trying to get the person to stand up and was resisting. The second woman puts her hands on his shoulder neck area, he tries to slap her away at first, then she goes bonkers and starts to swing (multiple times) at his head, then he clocked her…NOW, I will stand here a defend the cop 100%. Again, we did not see the whole thing, what started it all, but I can tell you something, I can BET $1,000 dollars to any take the cops DID NOT START THE PROBLEM – they were called there for a reason!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 6:39pmDTOM_Jericho (leaving PA)
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 6:24pm
issac or whatever. this isn’t about what you care about concerning opinions of you. you didnt attack anything, you made your points invalid. I did see (I think it was you) something about “the harder they fall and hiding behind a weapon”. If that was you, funny you claim a right(free speech) and it’s bad***; if someone else would it’s hiding. Lib reasoning? I’m done with you. You may go.
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Obviously you can’t read and comprehend very well, you got that from a post from me to Sinista Mace, let me refresh you:
here is what mace said to me:
Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:25pm
Congratulations!
You can spell “putz”!
Once again, your internet tough guy approach doesn’t impress me and my Jeet Kune Do training and my firearms. BTW, I’m 200lbs of lean mandingo and bench press over 350lbs 25 times.
Report Post »And then Sinista Mace went on about his 2nd amendment rights (obviously saying he could shoot me if he wanted to)…
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sure i called him a putz, because he generalizes all cops as NAZI’s and that is just plain wrong. I could give a RIP what any of you people attacking me think, I can say whatever I want in defense of myself. My points are not invalid at all, and I know that much. But you still defend Mace, even tho he calls ALL COPS NAZI’s, you people amaze me!!! I am not a cop either!
Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 6:44pmLike I said, Issachar, if you can provide ONE STATEMENT that proves that I am “racist”, please do before you make yourself look like a fool over, and over, and over again.
“Nazi” is not a “racist” term. It means National Socialist.
Get a dictionary, dude.
Actually try reading it.
I’m not oblivious to the IDEA that Nazism is a left-wing ideology, but I think you are oblivious to the fact that I am not a left winger.
I’m a Conservative Libertarian. Registered Independent. Tea Party member.
You can’t shut me up, you don’t like it, and I don’t really care.
Get a life.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 6:51pm“And then Sinista Mace went on about his 2nd amendment rights (obviously saying he could shoot me if he wanted to)…”
Don’t put words in my mouth.
YOU interpreted the execise of my RIGHT as a threat to you.
That would make you…antiamerican? At the least, it makes you oppositional to the the Bill of Rights.
“sure i called him a putz, because he generalizes all cops as NAZI’s and that is just plain wrong.”
No, that’s my opinion. It’s neither right, nor wrong, and it’s always valid. And you are the putz for not understanding that.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 6:54pmIssachar said:
“What is a *******? Just like the unions claim they are legal based on freedom of assembly? Ya right, you can call me whatever you want, but LIBERAL????????? ROFLMAO, that is priceless. Tighten the bolts on your neck, they seem to be coming loose!”
The police are armed UNIONIZED thugs.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 6:56pmI sure hope this guys isn’t married cause I worry for his wifes safety.
Maybe we didn’t see the moments leading up to this, but it looks like he hit her first. If this is the case, he’s in deep doo-doo!
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Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 7:00pm“And then Sinista Mace went on about his 2nd amendment rights (obviously saying he could shoot me if he wanted to)…”
I didn’t say that, you’re trying to put words in my mouth.
I’m not the putz, you’re the one who says “Nazi is a racist term”. It means National Socialist.
Look it up in the dictionary, if you know what one looks like.
I’m not oblivious to the idea that Nazism is a left-wing ideology, but you are oblivious to the fact that my opinions on the police are not wrong, they’re my opinions, and are always valid, and neither right, nor wrong.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 7:02pm@ Issa
You wrote:
“I won’t have to write a book to glom over facts like you do.
Does it matter what profession one dies in to have respect for a PERSON? How many coal miners are confronted by drunk/drug induced murderers pointing a gun at them?
2. If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime. You seem to forget it was a drug house, so you defend them over the police? ugh, ignorance is bliss I guess.
3. You think police on write traffic tickets? you are a moron! Gee let’s see when the riots are going on in the streets, I wonder who that is in the those ‘NAZI’ uniforms protecting life and property.
You guys can take your one sided arguments and shove em sideways! You make me SICK!”
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Mercy, it seems our era of civility has come to an end once again.
I didn’t realize that I was being to verbose for you. My apologies, I’ll try to watch my word count next time. I do try to make sure that I clearly articulate my point of view and use examples where I can to add depth to my arguments, but never as a means of forcing a myopic or limited observation set.
1. I don’t believe that I ever said that I respect any profession more or less based on mortality rate. Furthermore, I never suggested that I didn’t respect police. Quite the contrary. You are now spinning. As the thread rolls on, it becomes easier for you to do so. The premise was made by you about the risking of life by police and how it should provide lattitude in judging their behavior (my interpretation). I disagreed because the same lattitude is not afforded to other professions with equal or greater mortality risk. You didn’t respond in kind and took the concept another direction.
2. When the cops kicked in a door at 2AM and didn‘t announce they were police and didn’t have “police” displayed were they still cops or were they criminals at that point? Had the fellow inside been convicted of drug dealing or simply suspected. Seems as though you are an expert at the court of public opinion but not so in terms of actual due process. Ironic it seems that you’d wrap yourself in flag/constitution.
3. Okay, this was a pretty rambling though but I’ll try. Yes, police write traffic tickets…lots of them. They are revenue generators for their jurrisdictions. I haven’t seen any riots for a long time. The last vivid memory of real riots was the LA Riots which ironically enough were brought about in part due to police brutality. In those riots I don’t remember seeing one police officer there to protect or help Reginald Denny when a brick was being smashed into his head on national TV. As you point out though, maybe they were there before the film rolled and I didn‘t know why they weren’t on camera. ;-)
Report Post »hollowpoint
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 7:13pmYea and she has the right to find him and kill him!
Report Post »OhSuzieQ
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 7:14pmcessna, watch the video again..he slPPED HER FIRST, SHE SLAPPED HIM BACK..THEN he PUNCHED HER..BIG MAN! OMG!
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 7:20pm@Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 6:44pm
Like I said, Issachar, if you can provide ONE STATEMENT that proves that I am “racist”, please do before you make yourself look like a fool over, and over, and over again.
“Nazi” is not a “racist” term. It means National Socialist.
Get a dictionary, dude.
Actually try reading it.
I’m not oblivious to the IDEA that Nazism is a left-wing ideology, but I think you are oblivious to the fact that I am not a left winger.
I’m a Conservative Libertarian. Registered Independent. Tea Party member.
You can’t shut me up, you don’t like it, and I don’t really care.
Get a life.
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I’ll get a life when you get an education. The NAZI’s murdered 8 million Jews BECAUSE of their race you dolt!!!!!!!!!!! Crack a real history book and read about the NAZI blood pact the Arian Nation, red background on the flag represents BLOOD, you are so ignorant it’s not even funny any more! I’m not going to shut you up because you are a leftist bobble head and there is no shutting people like you up LOL blah blah blah…Odingo’s going down in 2012 our Liar-In-Chief will not win re-election, and that has you mad, doesn’t it, and guess what, there is NOTHING you can do about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 7:45pmLast thing Sinista I could care less if you were George Washington himself, I’d tell him the same damn thing!
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 7:46pmAny one else want a piece of me? Go for it…
Report Post »BMWmech
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:06pmCessna152,
Report Post »I totally agree with you. I’m tired of women who claim they are my equal, then expect special treatment by police because they are female. I saw this for 22 years in the military and I am sick of it.
0311SaltDog
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:33pmMan i hope you’re joking.. Because there are 18 year olds patrolling AFG with more self control under much more stressful situations.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:39pmAt 3 am after a long shift, going into a hostile crowd of drunks, let me ask who is thinking clearly or not there?
Report Post »payback
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:41pmThats is right!
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:44pmI give up, I guess I will have to accept the fact the police are not respected by Americans anymore, the rule of law is not respected, nor is our Constitution. Mob mentality is great, cops are killers, and the killers, drunks and dopers are GREAT people!!! I just love what America has become, I really do, such a wonderful place – bunch of indignant, drugged out, drunks, we’ve become, people who cannot critically think, just jump to conclusions and have no respect for one another – just throw the Bible in the trash people, it doesn’t matter any more, God does not care about you anymore pffffft. Go ahead bash me for what I say – you’ll be typing to the wind.
Report Post »Rightnow
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:12pmOk so why would you interrupt police business…? I don‘t care if it’s your friend or even family. You can handle business and ask questions at the station!
Report Post »Wilkins
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:37pm@Snowleopard
“Right now, it does appear she tried to interfere with the lawful duties of the officer, and in slapping at him she did try to assault an officer of the law.”
She did interfere with the officer. And a slap is an assault (looks to me like it landed). As Yoda said, there is no ‘try’, do or do not. And she did.
Both actions are criminal. In a situation like that there’s no time for nicey-nicey and please don’t do that dear. The officers were correct in quickly and effectively getting her under control and making it very clear to her any others present that they’re at the IHOP to play games. It’s easy to play Monday morning quarterback and say what little things they might have done differently.
Report Post »arx
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:46pmWe don’t know what started this whole thing, but as an old MP I will say that you people who say this ‘officer’ acted correctly are insane. Police officers must use enough force to control a situation, but not escalate…which he clearly did. I saw a 300 lb man pummeling a woman who may or may not have been resisting. The woman‘s friend had her hand on the cop’s arm, yes. But it was not an aggressive action or a physical attempt to restrain him. She appeared to be trying to de escalate him, as he was obviously hell bent on mauling the woman in the booth. He could have ignored the hand, as he had back up and she was not your typical violent criminal type…but no, he had to haul off and slap her across the face. Was she wrong for putting her hand on him? Yes, but not wrong enough to deserve a “b” slab across the face. And then to punch her in the face as hard as he could…come on! There is a difference between taking charge and acting like a bull in a chinashop because your not being obeyed. .and that slap was a clear and unnecessary escalation, followed by more unnecessary brute force. Again, not knowing how this all started, this appears to be a case of a fat headed first class ***** not able to control himself or his emotions.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:49pm@arx- then you are no better than Obama for calling the police stupid.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:57pmIssachar said :
“I’ll get a life when you get an education.”
My education has nothing to do with your life, sir. What you eat, doesn’t move my bowels.
You need to get an education first, then you can get a life secondarily.
” The NAZI’s murdered 8 million Jews BECAUSE of their race you dolt!!!!!!!!!!!”
That doesn’t make the term “Nazi” a “racist term”. That just describes what the Nazis DID based on their ideology of National Socialism. You lose, for the umpteenth time.
I don’t think you know what a real history book looks like.
“I’m not going to shut you up because you are a leftist bobble head and there is no shutting people like you up”
No, you cannot shut me up because your argument HOLDS NO WATER!
You’re full of hot air. You haven’t added anything substantial to the debate, all you’ve done is attack like Pavlos Dog to every criticism of your precious police that beat up little white ladies.
You LOSE.
“LOL blah blah blah…Odingo’s going down in 2012 our Liar-In-Chief will not win re-election, and that has you mad, doesn’t it, and guess what, there is NOTHING you can do about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
That’s a sure sign of a pathetic loser, laughing at himself. Nobody is else is laughing with you.
Everybody is shaking their head at you.
I’m voting for Ron Paul, you don’t get to “imagine” that I‘m a liberal because I don’t support Nazi brutality against civilians and don‘t subscribe to your neocon fascinations and you can’t do anything about it.
“Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 7:46pm
Any one else want a piece of me? Go for it…”
ROTFLMFAO!!!!
Looks like somebody needs to take a deep breath.
Maybe go punch some little white ladies in the face at Ihop…
Report Post »arx
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:02pmIssachar. I didn’t call him stupid. I said depending upon what happened before the video started, he appeared to be a fat headed first class ***** who can’t control his temper. It’s fairly easy to tell what is motivating a person in action…and this was clearly rage. And not to mention leaving his first suspect unsubdued in order to vent his rage…
That said, you are comparing me to Obozo? Get real. If I was in a position of authority I would hardly make a statement until I had all the facts. This is clearly defined speculation on my part, just an anonymous poster on blaze who has his posts taken down anyways..due to the Blaze’s “commitment” to freedom of thought…(sarcasm)
Report Post »Eric Byler
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:05pmSay what? Video starts with this officer IN the booth, reaching across the table with a grip on someones shirt and/or hair. This does not look like standard “step out of the booth and place your hands behind your head” police activity to me. The gal that got punched was trying to keep him from harming the other person in the booth when she got slapped. 20 bucks says this started as a domestic situation between the cop and the gal across the table by which he had no business slapping, then punching the other gal and then trowing around his weight as a cop to arrest her. I too am a big advocate for police officers but bad behavior is bad behavior. Watch the video again people.
Report Post »GPS-Tech
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:11pmThese guys dont come close to the Galveston police. I saw them try to arrest a drunk and when he resisted they twisted his arm and I heard this sickening sound like a tree branch snapping. Astros player Brandon Backe got his head split open by the Galveston PD at a wedding while a camera recorded the whole thing. These guys are light weights.
Report Post »ForTheRepublic
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:15pmyou obviously didn’t watch the video.
Report Post »Quad-rip-legic
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 1:14amwhy was she the only person to be hauled off? Blind, unwavering support for the police will come back to bite you. They are and will be the storm troopers that are more than happy to take away your rights. There are no restraints on the police and they do not recognize any authority other than their own. This is no longer the land of the free but the land of law. The Supreme Court is the new constitution.
Report Post »Nick84
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 2:19amOh, so I see that no one here really has anything horrible to say when a white girl is in a video like this… Also, whatever the woman could have done, nothing warrants a slap to the face. If she did something relatively minor, he could have easily taken her to the ground to begin with. If it was something major and she was still dangerous, she should have been tazed or maced. A slap in the face is an act of aggression and does not benefit anyone in this situation.
Report Post »Omikronian
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 2:24amStrange that the video suddenly begins when the cop hits her, leaving out the entirety of the incident beforehand.
Report Post »On The Mark
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 3:10amFirst, she interfered with whatever it was he was doing. Arrest her for that. The cop slapped her while trying to push her out of the way. Big deal.
Then she started hitting him repeatedly. No, she was most definitely not trying to defend herself. That’s ridiculous. She was obviously attacking at that point. She assaulted an officer. Charge her with that, too.
Was trying to punch her in the face the best plan? I doubt it. He really wasn’t very good at subduing her. He might have had less trouble with someone larger. Resisting arrest.
The video doesn’t make for good PR, but I‘m glad it’s available. However, it’s easy to back the cop on this one. She started it. It’s that simple.
Report Post »Linda16
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 7:28amHe did not even “hit” her. He TOUCHED her cheek both times.
Report Post »Next time, just pepper spray her mouthy self.
Buck Bagaw
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 9:40amThis cop used way too much “gun” in this incident. Yeah, I’m saying he acted like a thug.
Report Post »daj1001
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 10:24amThe Fat Pig cop hit her first, and let me tell you, if that wer my wife / girlfriend / sister / friend, etc, that cop would have had a 6″7 300 pound problem to deal with, and they would have needed back up. Problem with cops like this one is that they were made fun of as teenagers, and now it’s “payback time” for everyone else. They get a badge and a gun, and they go from meek little losers, or in this cops case, a big fat one, to the baddest guy on the block.
This cop needs to be fired immediately – he hit her first – and then to hit her with an closed fist? I think not. Every male in that IHOP should have jumped him.
Report Post »MadinIllinois
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 10:26amBottom line – he should have NEVER slapped her! Regardless that he was “off – duty”, he has a professional & ethical standard to maintain, as part of the Atlanta Police and this woman was “attempting” to keep her friend and this officer “separated” at the time. If the police are not held to a higher standard then the rest of us monkey’s in the cage, we’re got real problems! Question – have you noticed that since Obummer took office – tempers & physical confrontations are appearing “everywhere”???
Report Post »jwmarietta
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 10:40amthe cop hit her first, that is absolutely rediculous. that cop should be **** canned he is a disgrace to the uniform. to many cops have that power hungry little mind and act like they are above any law. F the police cause they are not here to protect people, they are here just to make money and get anyone who is annoying them out of the way, I hate those dirty disgraces called the police.
Report Post »jwmarietta
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 10:45amif she was interfering with an arrest then how come no one else got arrested once that lady got hit, did they just forget about why they were there in the first place.
Report Post »BidBerthaDotCom
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 11:48amThree big, armed cops violently arrest one small, unarmed woman and the cop who punched the woman in the face is seen as the hero to most of the folks posting here. Those of you who approve of this brute’s actions are boot-licking sheep. I consider myself to be a conservative right up to the point that I hear other conservatives justifying police brutality at every opportunity, then I remember that I’m really a libertarian. Many of you “tea party” types seem to cheer the rise of the police state with the same fervor as the Marxist Left, and I’m ashamed that I once considered myself to be a tea party member. You should remember that “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” Come to the light, as the neocons (read: the other big-government folks) have now totally co-opted a movement that was once something to be proud of.
Report Post »d3jsw21
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 12:52pmCome on . . . Brake out the old night stick . . . At least – pistol whip her . . . Do what any good KGB (insert your favorite secert police department) agent would do!
Report Post »Nick84
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 1:15pmIt’s probably a bit late to post this, but it is pretty ironic that people on here are generally afraid of “big government” and a Nazi-like police state, but most of you are defending a police officer beating a woman. It doesn’t matter what this woman did. A slap is never an appropriate response. If what she did was that horrible, he could have taken her to the ground and handcuffed her. He could have tazed or pepper sprayed her. I don’t understand how you can justify a slap… There is no tactical advantage to slapping someone- it is an act of aggression. At the point he slapped her, she had every right to defend herself in my opinion. It just cracks me up that so many of the people on here are terrified of liberals wanting a police state, but when a cop does something outrageous, most of you support him automatically.
Report Post »FreedomsQB
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 1:30pmThis was an off duty cop who wanted this booth, notice that they totally forgot about the original girl – what was she doing so bad that he should assault her and then just forget about her? The woman was trying to mediate and simply had her hand on his shoulder – He slapped her hard first and then punched her once his partner had her arm restrained. Totally unnecessary!
Report Post »This Cop is a thug and probably beats his wife and daughters on a regular basis, he is so good at it. Just maybe, they’ll escape being beaten for a couple of days by this tuff-guy since he got off on doing it to another woman. Maybe he was on a ‘roid rage – no that wouldn’t be possible, he wasn’t able to subdue and cuff this woman that he just face punched in the face – just a fat, angry jerk on a power trip!
Mee the People
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 1:53pmsilly jerry springer sh*t
Report Post »Seabee79
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 4:29pmhey now wait just a minute. From watching the video the officer should not have slapped this woman. They have no right to do that. What are you two posters hicks from down south??? Where you still beat your women?
What gives the officer the right to hit that woman in the first place? If I was her I’d sue them for every penny they got.
The police in this country have gotten way out of hand with their authority.
Report Post »US_SOLDIER
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 7:22pmI still stand by my comments that this officer (based on what we can see from what video is shown) did act out of line. He’s clearly very angry and yelling at the woman closest to the camera and it appears hes got his hand on her head area. Then woman #2 puts her hand on his arm in a non threatening way (i.e not tugging or pushing on his arm) Then the officer slaps the woman so naturally she slaps him back and then he blatantly punches her. But all these comments we’ve posted are pointless because we all know whats going to happen here. The most that will happen is he will be suspended with pay and it will all get swept under the rug. This is America today, it’s disgusting and I hate what this country has turned into. I dont play silly left/right blame games. I think of mindless trolls everytime I see one side blaming the other, like that‘s all they’ve been trained to do when something outside of the normal day to day tasks disrupts their life. The sooner people shed the stupid paradigms that the media has brainwashed you into and starts identifying themselves as Americans again then we can begin to get back to our roots. But both sides continue to play blame games and worry about nothing but their political points, meanwhile you feed them by buying into their stupid speeches promising you the world during campaigns and voting for them then they forget about you after the election. Then you’re upset until you realize american idol is coming on tonight
Report Post »GPS-Tech
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 7:38pm@Simple Mace,
“Once again, your internet tough guy approach doesn’t impress me and my Jeet Kune Do training and my firearms. BTW, I’m 200lbs of lean mandingo and bench press over 350lbs 25 times.”
Wow! You are the toughest, most well armed, extraordinary brilliant DOUCHE that I have ever seen haunt a comments section. You really went full ****** on that response Simple Mack. Sounds like a fairy tale to me, you should start writing children’s books.
Report Post »GPS-Tech
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 7:40pm******* = r3t@rd
Report Post »jahraf
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 10:43pmthen tell that pussycat to “put down the gun” and let em fight… toe to toe she would have mashed that potatoe head cop
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 12:07amGPS-Tech
I’m a douche? This is coming from the troll who had nothing substantial to offer on any topic whatsoever, and comes dribbling these turd nuggets out of his mouth like a dung beetle.
What is GPS-tech supposed to stand for?
GheyParadeSoldier-Technique?
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 12:16amSorry, A$$-Peck, I‘m not a marshmallow like you who calls the police to come save them from two black chicks while dressed up as women trying to waltz into the women’s bathroom.
“Save me Officer Friendly, save me!”
“Well, I never!”
“Sashay, Shante!”
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 4:07amKids, this is a lesson in why we don’t touch cops. Its called assault, and assaulting a police officer gives them cause to use equal opposing force to arrest you.
Don’t be dumb.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:38amLooks to me like the pig assaulted her first.
Guess they have officially grown wings, AND halos.
Report Post »GPS-Tech
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 7:09pm@ Minista Mouse,
Report Post »Turd nuggets? Even Lamer! You are going to have to do much better than that. You know it might be possible for someone who only weighs 200 lbs. to bench 350 lbs. 25 times in a row,….if they are 5 foot 5, maybe 5 foot 6. That would explain your small man complex. If you can spend all this time on a computer trolling and still maintain an elite class athletic ability then thats awesome, but highly unlikely.
GPS-Tech
Posted on April 29, 2011 at 8:07pm@Simple Mack,
M.A.C.E. = Molester of All Children Everywhere……… Yeah, That really is sinister.
OH!!!!!!!!! By the way, thanks for the anagram idea.
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