Beck Asks if Ten Commandments Are Slipping Away From American Society
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In the wake of Hustler Magazine’s shamelessly misogynistic attack on Blaze contributor S.E. Cupp, Glenn Beck took time out of his Wednesday evening broadcast to discuss the degradation of society and why leftists are all too eager in their push to purge all presence moral standards from the public square. To illustrate his point, Beck reviewed a modern-day interpretation of the Ten Commandments.
Watch below:
Most people can recite at least some of the Ten Commandments, many of which seem clear-cut in their goals. Other tenets, however, may not be as obvious.
“You shall not make for yourself any graven image or false idol,” for example, can be applied to anyone society places too great a significance on. Often, people place almost God-like importance on human beings — President Obama being one of the most recent, and perhaps best example. While only a mere mortal, a cult of personality has been built around Obama, raising him to a status few have before have enjoyed. Some might argue that, for believers, the president can do no wrong. This scenario has been repeated at other points in history when it comes to those with a “celebrity” status.
“You shall not take the name of the Lord in vain.“ Beck explained that this commandment is mainly focused on the importance of ”respect” — for oneself and others. The recent, liberal use of the “F word” among even members of the Obama administration demonstrates how even those in the upper echelons of society are losing respect for themselves and the people who elected them to lead.
“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.” In other words, resting and take time to reflect on family and what is truly important in life lends to the enrichment of the individual. Perhaps even this act can be perceived as a “selfless” one.
While some commandments, like “thou shall not murder,“ ”steal“ or ”commit adultery” seem obvious from a moral and ethical standpoint, one that bears specific mention given the emergence of Occupy Wall Street, is “thou shall not covet.” Indeed it can be argued that the entire basis of class-warfare is predicated on one’s deep-seated coveting of that which belongs to another.
Regardless of one’s religious or non-religious bent, the Ten Commandments are, for the most part, universally accepted as the cornerstone of any ethical and moral society. And while the current societal trajectory seems to be rejecting each of the above values, Beck said that individuals can still choose to accept the commandments as code to live by.
“You won’t find any of these things at Occupy Wall Street,” he concluded.
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pdw
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 2:04amLooks like many need to go back and study their scriptures again. The 10 commandments still stand for those who are still living the lesser laws. They are just for beginners who do not know how to the a higher law. If we were are spiritual and moral as we should be there would only need to be 1 law, Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, mind and spirit as he loves ALL of his children.
Report Post »Bearfoot
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 12:05pmExodus 20:1 And God proceeded to speak all these words, saying:
2 “I am Jehovah your God, who have brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slaves. 3 You must not have any other gods against my face.
4 “You must not make for yourself a carved image or a form like anything that is in the heavens above or that is on the earth underneath or that is in the waters under the earth. 5 You must not bow down to them nor be induced to serve them, because I Jehovah your God am a God exacting exclusive devotion, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon sons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation, in the case of those who hate me; 6 but exercising loving-kindness toward the thousandth generation in the case of those who love me and keep my commandments.
7 “You must not take up the name of Jehovah your God in a worthless way, for Jehovah will not leave the one unpunished who takes up his name in a worthless way.
8 “Remembering the sabbath day to hold it sacred, 9 you are to render service and you must do all your work six days. 10 But the seventh day is a sabbath to Jehovah your God. You must not do any work, you nor your son nor your daughter, your slave man nor your slave girl nor your domestic animal nor your alien resident who is inside your gates. 11 For in six days Jehovah made the heavens and the earth, the sea and everything that is in them, and he proceeded to rest on the seventh day. That is why Jehovah blessed the s
Report Post »Bearfoot
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 12:14pmExodus 20:11 For in six days Jehovah made the heavens and the earth, the sea and everything that is in them, and he proceeded to rest on the seventh day. That is why Jehovah blessed the sabbath day and proceeded to make it sacred.
12 “Honor your father and your mother in order that your days may prove long upon the ground that Jehovah your God is giving you.
13 “You must not murder.
14 “You must not commit adultery.
15 “You must not steal.
16 “You must not testify falsely as a witness against your fellowman.
17 “You must not desire your fellowman’s house. You must not desire your fellowman’s wife, nor his slave man nor his slave girl nor his bull nor his ass nor anything that belongs to your fellowman.”
It is good to actually read what the Holy Scriptures says. – BF
Report Post »snooop1e
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 1:19pmROMANS 2:13 – In the 1600′s while sitting on the Privy (toilet) Martin Luther came up with the idea that Jesus death and resurrection rescued us from Gods Commandments and that those who “believe” in Jesus are no longer required to obey Gods Laws. Martin Luther taught that even if someone were to commit rape and murder 1000 times a day they could not lose their salvation. Sadly over time this belief has tricked some people into believing that they can simply declare to God that they have already judged themselves “saved” and that they have already judged themselves to have eternal life and therefore they are no longer required to obey Gods Commanments. Satan has tricked many sincere people into believing that once they declare to God that they have judged themselves “saved” no amount of sin can change keep them from entering Gods kingdom. Satan is a genius and has managed to convince many sincere people that it is not possible to obey God and therefore it is not necessary to obey God in order to have eternal life. Satan has convinced many people that THEY can declare to almighty God that they already have judged themselves to have eternal life. This is not biblical and it is keeping people from receiving Gods grace. Sin brings death, Obedience brings grace. We must repent, turn from our lives of sin and obey God Commands. 1 John 1:6, Eph 5:3-12, Rev 20:12-13, Matt 7-21, 1 John 2:4, Rom 2:6, James 2:14-27, 1 Cor 4:4-5, Matt 5:17-20, 1 Cor 4:4-5, 1 John 5:16….
Report Post »JGraham III
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 1:31pm@PDW:
Report Post »Excellent post; the only thing I would add is that one can find all ten commandments embodied in the Church Epsitles (Romans-II Thessalonians) except for one. That one is keeping the Sabbath. Perhaps that is why so many do not want to accept the “writings of Paul” as they call them. Romans 14:5 says essentially that it is not required to observe one day above another, but the be fully convinced for yourself. The other “9” are of course wrapped into loving God wholly and your neighbor as yourself a.k.a. the law of love.
JGraham III
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 2:24pm@Snooop1e:
Report Post »At the risk of opening up a can of worms, I would like to point out a few things re: your post. Firstly Martin Luther probably did sit on the privy more than once and if you know anything about revelation, it can and does come at some of the most unlikely places and times. The location does not negate the veracity of the revelation, however. (There is a great record in 2Kings6:17 where someone received revelation/spiritual insight while on the way to the privy. Hint: ‘going forth’ and ‘going abroad’ are hebraic expressions meanign to use the potty..)
Secondly I think it likely that Martin Luther lived into the 1600′s as he was born in 1483. perhaps a typo??
Lastly, those of us for whom you seem to have disdain, who have “believed on the Lord Jesus Christ” have not done so by declaring to God that we are saved by our own merit, but have in fact confessed the Savior from sin. Never mind that He said He did not come to destroy the Law, but to fulfill. What do you think He meant when at the end of the ordeal on the cross, He said “it is finished”? If the Law is fulfilled then what are you doing if you are not sacrificing in Jerusalem at the Temple and following every jot and tittle of the Law? Good luck with that one as Jesus Christ was the only one able to do it. We are free to love as Christ loved and to live as He lived because of what He accomplished for us.
SovereignSoul
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 2:37pmWhich Bible should I believe? The wording in mine is different from yours.
Report Post »WhiteFang
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 2:48pmSovereignSoul,
There are many translations of the Bible. It is beneficial to to read from various translations to get a well rounded understanding. Bearfoot is using the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures. The King James Version will word it differently but the message is the same. The NIV, ASV, etc will also be different from the KJV.
Report Post »Get a good translation and compare it with other good translations for a good understanding of the Bible.
scarebear83
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 3:41pm“Regardless of one’s religious or non-religious bent, the Ten Commandments are, for the most part, universally accepted as the cornerstone of any ethical and moral society.”
I have a problem with this because it assumes we are still living under the Law of Moses. The ten commandments can’t be separated from the WHOLE law, they are a part of the some 613 odd laws. Also the law was given ONLY to the Nation of Israel Deut. 5:2 The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. 3 The Lord did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us, those who are here today, all of us who are alive… So these commands weren’t given to Abraham or Noah or Adam. So why are people so insistent upon following a law that was fulfilled on the cross? We live under Christ’s law now. Which also means no killing or stealing, but it goes a step further, that even if you have hate in your heart you have committed a sin. Yes I’m sure someone will say “So it’s ok to murder now?” No. It never has been. In fact look at Cain and Abel, (way before the ten commandments were given to Moses and the children of Israel) it was wrong for Cain to murder his brother. So no, I’d rather the perfect law of Christ be the one that is the cornerstone of any ethical and moral society. Heb. 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.
Report Post »snooop1e
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 7:50pm@PDW – You said “The 10 commandments still stand for those who are still living the lesser laws. They are just for beginners who do not know how to the a higher law” Where dos it say this in the Bible? I am not asking where you think it says this in the Bible I am looking for where Jesus or Paul or any of the Apostles or Prophets taught that the 10 commandments are just for beginners who do not know how to the a higher law? The scriptures below don’t seem to support your statements.
Numbers 15:30
Report Post »Job 34:11
Psalm 34:9
Psalm 66:18
Proverbs 10:3
Proverbs 10:29
Proverbs 15:8
Proverbs 15:29
Proverbs 28:9
Ecclesiastes 12:14
Isaiah 57:2
Jer 11:6
Ezekiel 33:13
Mal 1:11
Matt 7:21
Matt 12:36-37
Matt 12:50
Matt16:24
Matt 16:27
Matt 25:40-46
Mark 3:35
Mark 4:24
Mark 7:15
Mark 8:34-35
Mark 9:42-50
Mark 10:11-12
Mark 10:29
Mark 11:25
Mark 13:13
Mark 13:36
Luke 9:23
Luke 14:27
Luke 18:9-14
Luke 18:29-30
John 6:66
John 8:51
John 9:31
John 12:48
John 12:50
John 13:17
John 14:15
John 14:21
John 14:23
John 15:10
Acts 10:34-35
Rom 2:6
Rom 2:9
Rom 2:13
Rom 2:7-8
Rom 14:12
1 Cor 6:9
1 Cor 10:13
1 Cor 11:27
2 Cor 5:10
Gal 5:19-21
Gal 5:24-25
Gal 6:7-8
Eph 1:18
Eph 2:1-3
Eph 4:17-24
Eph 5:3-12
Col 3:5-8
Col 3:23-25
2 Thes1:8
2 Thes 2:11
2 Thes 2:13-15
2 Thes 3:6
1 Tim 3:15
Heb 5:9
Heb 6:4-6
Heb 10:26
James 1:12-15
James 1:21-22
James 1:26-27
James 2:14-27
James 4:3
James 4:6-9
James 4:17
James 5:16
1 Peter 3
snooop1e
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 8:17pm@JGRAHAM III – Yes typo, roughly 1500. You said ” Never mind that He said He did not come to destroy the Law, but to fulfill” Never mind? Really? (Mark 7:9) Also you say “What do you think He meant when at the end of the ordeal on the cross, He said “it is finished”? If you mean was Jesus saying now everyone can judge themselves righteous and declare to God almighty that they judge themselves to have eternal life, no I don’t think that is what Jesus meant. I think Jesus was saying that His suffering was ending. Jesus also quoted Psalm 22:1 but I don’t think He was saying that God had abandoned Him. You say “If the Law is fulfilled then what are you doing if you are not sacrificing in Jerusalem at the Temple and following every jot and tittle of the Law?“ Do you understand the difference between the old covenant and the new covenant and ”works of the mosaic law”? You say “Good luck with that one as Jesus Christ was the only one able to do it” Scripture is clear that the Gentiles will offer a perfect offering throughout the world from the rising of the sun to it’s setting (Malachi 1:11) What is the ONLY perfect offering acceptable to God? You say “We are free to love as Christ loved and to live as He lived” How did Jesus live and how did He tell us to live? hint (Matt 5:20, Matt 5:48, Matt 7:21, 1 John 2:5, Rom 2:13, Heb 10:26, Heb 5:9) Lastly, no disdain here brother, just quoting scripture, we are all brothers in Christ……God Bless
Report Post »JGraham III
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 10:07pm@Snooop1e:
Report Post »I seldom rebut a rebuttal, but there are some things you intimated about me that I wish to set straight. First; I do indeed know the difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament. Testament is from the latin “testamentum‘ meaning ’covenant’. There is not time or space here enough to go into the details of what comprises a covenant, so suffice it to say that it is essentially a set of rules and boundaries that govern an agreement between two or more parties, in this case God and Israel. That God would allow the Gentiles into this relationship was not revealed until the Apostle Paul first spoke of it in Romans 16 and then in much greater detail in Ephesians. The difference between the OT and the NT is that Israel’s righteousness was determined by how they kept the law in the OT but changed in the NT to “Christ is the end of the lawfor righteousness to everyone that believeth” (romans 10:4ff) Hence, ‘the just shall live by faith’ which is in Habbakuk 2:4 and again in Romans 1:17. These scriptures are what started Martin Luther on his quest. At no place does the NT sanction a person declaring himself righteous apart from the atoning work of Jesus Christ, so I guess I am puzzled why you think that. The Christian is to live righteously; not done by taste not touch not, etc but by the faith of Jesus Christ.
Lastly the ONLY way to please God today is found in Hebrews 11:6 which says in part, “for without faith it is impossible to please Him..
RamonPreston
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 2:01am“Slipping” is current tense. “Slipped” is past tense.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 11:56am“Slipped” may be more accurate.
Report Post »FortySixand2
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 8:38pm“Slipped” is absolutely correct. Doesn’t even need improving upon.
Report Post »What stronger moral code does a person need than the basic 10?
bobbiejean
Posted on May 26, 2012 at 5:42pmRamonPreston Slipping is the correct verb. The US HAS BEEN slowly slipping into a secular society
Report Post »for about the past 50 years. Sadly, it appears to have accelerated more recently.
karen162
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 1:12amWhy would Beck ask such an obvious question? Yes. 10 Commandments are slipping away.
Report Post »davecorkery
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 10:39amWhich version? There are 4 in the OT. I like the 10th commandement in the 4th version: Thou shall not boil a kid (young goat) in it’s mothers milk. Give me a break. Faith is no reason.
Report Post »tzion
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 11:39am@Dave
Report Post »There are only two versions of the Ten Commandments and the only changes in them is that instead “Remember the Sabbath day…“ the second one says ”Keep the Sabbath day”. The law you quoted, which isn’t in the Ten Commandments and appears no fewer than three times, is the origin of the Jewish practice of not eating milk and meat at the same time.
SovereignSoul
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 12:21pm@tzion: The three Bibles in my home all state that “Thou shalt not kill” while this article says murder. In whom should Iput my trust, the human Glen Beck or the Holy Word of God?
Report Post »booboognu
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 1:02amThe Ten Commandments don’t even matter. Jesus gave a new set of commandments that sum it all up. Love God with all that you are and love your neighbor. And to go into the world and make disciples.
Report Post »DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 7:12amApparently you haven’t figured out that would make “jesus” a false prophet. By His own Word, Messiah cannot change the Law and said He would not until Heaven and earth pass away. Is earth still here? This would also make “jesus” a liar. Using today’s terminology we would say the Messiah was speaking ironically. He was actually quoting “old” commandments.
I do agree with you, “jesus” was a liar and a false prophet. He is the image of the beast(Rome). Yeshua is Messiah not “jesus”.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 10:20amThe Ten Commandments DO matter.
Exodus 32:16 And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, graven upon the tables.
Matthew 22:40 On these two commandments HANG ALL the law and the prophets.
Mark 12:3 There is none other commandment greater than these.
Galatians 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Keep his Commandments!
Report Post »chucksue351
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 11:35amgo back and read the book of James!
Report Post »wvernon1981
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 11:46amBill and Ted gave an even more succinct version, “Be excellent to each other.”
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 11:57am@wvernon1981: “Each other” doesn’t even begin to cover it.
Report Post »bobbiejean
Posted on May 26, 2012 at 5:51pm@Booboognu Actually, Jesus said the whole Law could be SUMMED UP in those two quotes: Love
Report Post »God and love your neighbor. Those two are also quoted in the OT.
happy2behere
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 12:43amEspecially the fourth, which begins with the word Remember.
Report Post »RamonPreston
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 2:07am“Remember” as in “Don’t forget.” Too late. We have forgotten that Saturday is God’s sabbath, not Sunday. The Catholic church changed it. No place in the scriptures where God changed it.
Report Post »FROMTHEHEART
Posted on May 25, 2012 at 4:03pmThe 10 Commandments were given to the Jews…to give to the WORLD! They were God’s ambassadors to the world and were supposed to teach all nations about their God and His requirements. The 10C’s are viable and applicable today to all people, ESPECIALLY to Christians. As for the 4th C, regarding the Sabbath, read Hebrews Heb 4:4-9
Report Post »“For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way:
“AND GOD RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY FROM ALL HIS WORKS”;
and again in this place:
“THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST.”
Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience, again He designates a certain day, saying in David,
“TODAY,” after such a long time, as it has been said:
“TODAY, IF YOU WILL HEAR HIS VOICE, DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS.”
For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day.
There remains therefore a rest for the people of God.”
Scripture did not change the Sabbath to Sunday…the Lord did not change it…the Apostles did not change it…the Church of Rome THOUGHT to change God’s times & laws…& sadly most of Protestantism follows her lead.
God NEVER gave any man the authority to make that change.
However the Roman Church has arrogantly claimed she has the authority.
See Mark 7:7 & Ezekiel 22:26.
In That Day
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 12:30am1) Beck asks for help (i.e. “Help me!”) as he angrily explains the 10 Commandments, as if to his 15-year-old Sunday School audience.
Report Post »2) The following is mature help, but GB appears to only diode broadcast, seldom hear reciprocal, mature dialogue, even when he asks for it. There is danger in GB’s diode behavior & danger if GB ignores cogent replies.
3) The answer to most problems is maturity and not repeating old memes, tropes, lines & precepts.
4) Maturity is actually quite difficult. (As opposed to GB saying “It ain’t that tough!”)
5) Einstein said to solve problems, we must think differently than the way we thought that created problems.
6) Hence: In That Day Teachings proclaims a higher understanding of Commandment One: “There are no fixed rules only moral guidelines or guideposts. (There are exceptions to every rule!)
7) USMC Tactics… http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/service_pubs/mcdp1_3.pdf …
8) “Leaders must remember that there are no fixed rules and no precise checklists, but there are bounds…” And, “no fixed rules that can be applied automatically, and every situation is different.”
9) The first sentence of the manual explains much: “This publication is about winning in combat.” The last sentence of this paragraph says, “Wining in combat depends upon tactical leaders who can think creatively and act decisively.”
10) The FAA also allows pilots to break rules to save passengers’ lives, thank God!
In That Day
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 12:48am11) In That Day Teachings are maturity for a world occupied in immature religion.
Report Post »12) Muslim rigid-righteousness is same as Churchianity’s rigid-righteousness.
13) In That Day Teachings can’t be described in one simple salable point, they are far too rich, far too precious and answer far too many questions to be pegged short.
14) Since God says “Thou shalt have no other….” The answer is anything, especially rigid righteousness… as God.
15) Hence In That Day Teachings say that Holy Flexibility trumps Rigid-Righteousness.
16) The world’s intelligence is increasing, and The Blaze regularly shows inane, dumbed-down preachers having the stupidest, grossest implosions!
17) Modern Churchianity is sub-taught, immature and hopelessly stuck in Rigid-Righteousness.
18) In That Day Teachings offer a poetic language to break through the corrupted language of modern Churchianity.
19) Because In That Day Teachings are higher, deeper, more mature, & actually contain answers and get to a high point of Christ-in-you promulgation, people who have been dumbed-down by puerile Churchianity…. Have a hard time accessing.
20) That the teachings are poetic, difficult and mature is not bad, but a good sign.
See http://www.inthatdayteachings.com
Glenn Beck ought to ask and have author of this post on programs.
Sub-educated Christians usually cannot believe a higher way even exists.
Churchianity leaders tend to blind their rubes and make themselves: God!
moussiagilda
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 12:09amAn awful thought. Really awful. What exactly is meant by “thy rod and thy staff shall comfort me.”
God is as big of a pervert as any of us.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 12:30amRod is an ancient Symbol of Punishment; Staff is an ancient Symbol of Power!
Report Post »RamonPreston
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 2:17amThe shepards “rod and staff” are the weapon that he used to drive predators away with. Hence, the sheep feel safe with the shepard there to protect them.
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 3:28am@moussiagilda
An awful thought. Really awful. What exactly is meant by “thy rod and thy staff shall comfort me.”
God is as big of a pervert as any of us.
~~~~~~~~~
Hey gutter-head..!
Here’s another “Bible Verse”…
“Spare the rod spoil the child” …another words..
If your old man would have put a paddle to your A$$ …
when you were a snot-nose punk-ass kid ..
Then you would have a great understanding of what
Report Post »The Bible is referring to.
bluegrandma52
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 2:47pmThe rod and staff were the tools and weapons of the shepherd. The rod is generally a 2-3 ft stick with a knot on one end. It is used as a weapon against predators, as a way of guiding the sheep into the correct path by pressing against its side, and as a tool to part the wool in order to inspect the health of the sheep. The staff was longer (4-6 ft), sometimes straight, sometimes with a hook or bend at one end. It is used as a walking stick, as a guide for sheep that are too far away to use the rod, and to catch a straying sheep by a leg and bring it back to the flock. Neither is used to beat on the sheep.
Report Post »uncledave3000
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 12:03amwhen leftists don’t like something then nobody should like it, if i don’t like something, i don’t do it! if we just went with the big 10, we wouldn’t need career “law makers”, it’s all there already.
Report Post »mastice
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:54pmSetting religion aside for just a second (yes I understand the 10 commandments are religious but bear with me a moment).
If you choose to not believe in God then so be it, it’s your life and I figure we will all find out in the end. But if you remove Commandments 1-4 then 5-10 are very good ‘moral’ lessons for anyone to follow. Believers and non-believers. But of course, since Commandments 1-4 deal with God, those who do not believe get pissed about seeing them displayed anywhere.
As a side point, you know it will never stop too right? Remove them from public lands which is fine with me – don’t like it but I understand the argument. Once all the (christian) religious references are removed from public buildings the atheists will move on to targeting private property displays. (you already see it with such things as our beloved Stars and Stripes)
It will start with HOAs (home owners associations) or local cities passing rules banning nativity scenes or crosses planted on your front lawn for “safety” or some such. Once they hammer those out of your yard they will move on to displays ‘mounted’ on your house, be it a cross or a stained glass window built into your house.
In my opinion, based on long conversations with atheists, the underlying goal is the complete removal of ALL religion…. everywhere.
Report Post »RamonPreston
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 2:22amGood thinking! Kick God out of America and God will kick YOU out of America. I wonder what size shoe God wears?
Report Post »SilentDove
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 8:41amI disagree, what sort of conversations with what sort of Atheists are you talking to? I work with a couple at my job and they don‘t want to ’expunge’ religion, they simply want for everyone to be nice to each other. That is a completely different goal and I find it offensive that anyone bases their opinions of arguments that they had with well, very silly people, on the Internet. There are a small group of people who want to ‘purge’ religion – but it’s not even the Atheists, it really isn’t.
Let’s look at who is getting rid of symbols and such, the biggest candidate is out course the government, but wait it’s also home owners associations and the like – why? They do not want to offend people, they want to make everything secular so they can make people more comfortable because it is true that everyone isn’t a Christian, nothing wrong with that.
Now there are problems with government of any kind encroaching on this sort of thing but the exceptions of schools and other government building. I love Jesus and God and I will preach their message to everyone I can and share with everyone I meet – I don’t see why some of my fellow Christians get angry when they remove nativities from in front of buildings that are governmental in nature, I see it is another way to testify to people and meet new people and introduce them to Christ.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 10:33am@mastice I don’t consider the Ten Commandments necessarily, or exclusively, religious. At the founding of this nation, commandments 1-4 were very well respected, even among non religious people. Our nation has always acknowledged a Supreme Being, and taken a day of rest, for the purpose of attending divine service, whether in public or private life.
On May 2, 1778, General George Washington issued these orders to his troops at Valley Forge:
“The Commander-in-Chief directs that Divine service be performed every Sunday at 11 o’clock, in each Brigade which has a Chaplain. Those Brigades which have none will attend the places of worship nearest to them. It is expected that officers of all ranks will, by their attendance, set an example for their men. While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest Glory to laud the more distinguished Character of Christian. The signal instances of Providential goodness which we have experienced and which have now almost crowned our labors with complete success demand from us in a peculiar manner the warmest returns of gratitude and piety to the Supreme Author of all good.”
Report Post »Hova
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 12:41pmOh, Colt. What else did the founding fathers do? Tell me, I need to know who to base my entire morality on in order to figure out that murdering is wrong! Help me! I can’t tell morality objectively using my observations of human society! I need my morality to be written down so I can read it and go, “Oh! So killing is wrong! And so is rape! Thank God for this easily accessible and simple guide to morality. Without it I’ll just go insane and start robbing banks!”
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 3:57pm@Hova LOL. If God hadn’t said, Don’t Murder, atheists would be saying, What kind of God doesn’t prohibit murder? You all love to nitpick and mock. Howbeit, God said in his own Word, that many of these laws are known in our own hearts, that we may be without excuse. But you go ahead and continue ridiculing, albeit ignorantly, and taking things out of context..
Report Post »Hova
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 8:15pmBoy, I do love it when an anonymous stranger tells me what I would do in a certain situation regarding something completely irrelevant to any point I was actually making! Oh, tell me what I’d do when Jesus comes to Earth! Seriously, I don’t know what to do without your obvious insight and command over my being!
Report Post »INTHEBROTHERHOOD
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 5:29pmto ramon…..your comedy dude….Great sense of humor. God had one to…..look what he did to jonah..may the holy spirit bring you blessings All your days
Report Post »reidh
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:46pmBeing a Moron of the LDS persuasion I humbly submit that you needn’t worry about obeying God. You wouldn’t KNOW God if he sat on your Face!
Report Post »moussiagilda
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:45pmSay, f’rinstance, you covet me. You ought to! Break that asinine commandment! It isn’t wrong to desire what is good!
Report Post »moussiagilda
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:43pmThe Ten Commandments are bull. They’re worthy of being part of Sharia law. They’re satanic instructions on how to make yourself cold and unfeeling. They’re Nazi.
Report Post »mastice
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:58pmWow, tell us how you really feel….
How about elaborating a bit more perhaps? What makes them “cold” and “nazi” as you put it?
Report Post »moussiagilda
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 12:07amOne example. Honor your father and mother. And don’t honor anyone else???????
Another. Thou shalt not kill. Except in war, when it’s perfectly wonderful to kil?
Didn’t you know one of the original commandments is “thou shalt not seethe a calf in its mother’s milk.”
Don’t just keep the Sabbath day (actually Saturday) holy. Keep every day holy!
The Ten Commanments are inadequate, nitpicking, and stupid. Foolish.
I know. Isn’t it fun talking to me.l
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Report Post »moussiagilda
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 12:11amAnd you know very well that the prohibition of graven images destroyed art.
The Ten Commandments are the Anti-Life Commandments.
Report Post »RamonPreston
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 2:19am“Kill” is a poor translation. Thou shalt not MURDER is more correct.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 10:47am@moussiagilda Wow. You’re so misinformed.
Jesus said, “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments HANG ALL the law and the prophets.”
Man was put on Earth. Man has six days to labor, and earn a living. God has commanded that on the seventh day, Man set apart time to acknowledge and remember his Creator. Holy in this case means to set apart or sanctify for a certain or special purpose.
The Ten Commandments are the greatest, most simple, set of Laws ever given to Man. Any society that respects these will learn to uphold our God given rights, families, property, and show forth piety, justice, honesty, and accountability.
Report Post »22AUTOMATIC
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:27pmHere’s a clip of random people being quizzed on how many of the Ten Commandments they can name versus how many beer brands they can name.
http://youtu.be/-gnWAqoMuVM
If you ever have a chance to watch David Barton‘s American Heritage series he shows textbooks from the 1700’s and 1800′s and how learning the Commandments and scripture was part of lesson plans from elementary school to graduation and through college (Ivy League schools founded in Christianity). I just watched a DVD where he showed how 8th grade tests compare to today’s tests. You were required to learn 150 years ago in eight grade what most don’t learn now until law school about the Constitution. Everything started falling apart in education during the 1920′s once progressives and W.Wilson came onto the scene. God moved out of schools and grades and intellect and morals took a nose dive. There are actually some people today that actually think “separation of church and state” is in the Constitution not realizing a progressive judge in the 1940‘s pulled that line out of a LETTER Thomas Jefferson wrote to someone in the early 1800’s. But hey, we’ve got Joe Klein, J-Wow, Janeane Garofalo and Frances Fox Piven so who needs intellect anymore. They can just be put in charge to point important things out to us.
David Barton Video Below
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4318930/the_real_reason_american_education_has_slipped_david_barton/
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:38pmTHE JEFFERSON LIES by David Barton is a great new book; I highly recommend it. Can’t wait to talk to him on my radio show. Such a scholar that communicates so well!
Report Post »22AUTOMATIC
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 12:27amWow you’re interviewing him, how cool is that! Yes, he’s truly a brilliant individual. He also is one of the most friendly human beings on earth. He was even able to win over Jon Stewart which says a lot. Hopefully Glenn and David will bring back an occasional “Founding Fathers Friday” for us soon.
Here’s a little clip from Restoring Courage. A great demonstration of true friendship and mutual respect.
Report Post »http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/08/21/restoring-courage-recap-part-1/
AmericanFightingMan1
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 1:07amWell said 22. My grandmother, born in 1915 and educated thru high school, was much better educated than the vast majority of college grads I meet today. She was devout too. The finest person I ever met. She understood the importance of faith. God out of the school is a vacant wasteland. Sad.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:19pmNo, Mr. Beck; the Ten Commandments are not slipping away. You are free to put a big ole 10 commandments right in your front yard. You can wear it around on you body, you can have it in your car, you can have it on bread, you can cast it in lead, you can print in on your head……but you can not put in our schools, our courthouses, or other “Public” properties. How is that so hard to understand?
Report Post »Dougral Supports Israel
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:39pmAmerica was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. The Ten Commandments are part of this. The Golden Rule is also. These are simple, easy to understand guidelines for living. But the Progressives in our society think they can do better. They foist complicated rulesets on us that vary according to who you are and whom you are dealing with. One must keep in mind an ever-shifting set of rules that are supposed to provide fairness for all. In reality, the liberal principles just reward those that the people in power think will keep them there and subject everyone else to arbitrary controls.
So, you can choose God‘s rules which will free you or man’s edicts that will make you a slave. I have made my choice and you have an opportunity to choose again.
Report Post »palerider54
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:44pmAnd why can’t they put the 10 commandments in schools and public buildings ?
The founding fathers, the ones who wrote the constitution put them in all the public buildings and schools.
Hey pappy, I guess you know more about the constitution than the ones who wrote it.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 12:11amBecause putting them in public bldgs, schools, courthouses etc. leaves the impression that the government backs the religion, and if you are of another religion, you would feel a mite put upon now would you not?
Report Post »Would you mind if the next time you walked into a courthouse the Koran was depicted on the steps?
MAMMY_NUNN
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 7:38amBanned from the places that need it the most.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 10:56amThe renowned Constitutional scholar, Henry Black (1860-1927), author of Black’s Law Dictionary, and editor of The Constitutional Review from 1917 to 1927, recognized and acknowledged America’s Christian foundations. In his Handbook of American Constitutional Law (2nd ed. 1897, 3rd ed. 1910, 4th ed. 1927), he stated,
“…that many of our best civil and social institutions, and the most important to be preserved in a free and civilized state, are founded upon the Christian religion, or upheld and strengthened by its observance; that the whole purpose and policy of the law assume that we are a nation of Christians, and while toleration is the principle in religious matters, the laws are to recognize the existence of that system of faith, and our institutions are to be based on that assumption ; that those who are in fact Christians have a right to be protected by law against wanton interference with the free and undisturbed practice of their religion and against malicious attacks upon its source or authority, calculated and intended to affront and wound them ; and that the prevalence of a sound morality among the people is essential to the preservation of their liberties and the permanence of their institutions, and to the success and prosperity of government, and the morality which is to be fostered and encouraged by the state is Christian morality, and not such as might exist in the supposititious “state of nature” or in a pagan country.”
Report Post »Hova
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 12:46pmPlease, Colt! Give me more historical figures to copy my moral standards from!
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 2:51pmYo Macpappy:
Adhereing to the bible IS NOT backing a specific “religion” like Baptists, Methodists or Catholics. I guess if you ackowledge this simple truth you’re desire and arguement to see God completely removed falls to pieces.
Report Post »As far as the Koran … yeah, I would have a problem with it, cause you are trying to change the foundations of this nation … like that truth or not.
4truth2all
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 2:53pmYo Hova:
Where do you get you’res from … ?
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 3:59pm@Hova You wouldn’t even understand. How about, you continue listening to that degenerate, sleazeball, and your idol, Jay-Z, and I’ll continue reading the bible, and learning history.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:07pmI ask this question on my radio show sometimes; and it’s not a religious show that I do, but since I am interested and also am a believer in Christ; I’ll ask on this thread. Of course, if it’s too personal, totally cool; I understand.
How do you gain entrance into Heaven?
Report Post »Joshua7
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:18pmBy truely believing in Jesus Christ and accepting him as your saviour, of course.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:31pmChristians are suppose to recognize only one way, implying that there was not a previous way, and that Christ opened Heaven: the New Covenant; the individual Testifies for Christ, and Christ promised to Testify to GOD for the individual… where the individuals Testamony was upon the Golden Rule to be followed, and upon a contribution to The Kingdom Of GOD On Earth (Deeds)… where Belief plus Deeds confirms one’s Faith!
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:34pmYep, Joshua; that’s what my book says too. See ya there! God bless, man.
Report Post »palerider54
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:49pmYour right Joshua7, Jesus is the only way to God the Father.
People thing that Hell is a place built to punish BAD people. Not true. We are all bad people. It was built as a place to put Satan and his fallen angels, and all who do not accept Jesus Christ as their personal Savior. It is expanding every day.
BTW, my favorite verse in Joshua is 24:15
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:53pmSo… people can just Sin as much as they want… do nothing to enhance the World… and simply Beg for Christ to Save them on their DeathBed?
Give em… the old time… Prison Religion!
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 12:04am@PALE…
Report Post »JOB… and Satan goes to and fro upon the Earth…
RamonPreston
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 2:09amAnswer in in John 3:13
Report Post »rickc34
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 12:30pmRead the Gospel of John chapter 3 for starts. Then start at Genesis chap 1verse 1 don’t stop until you getto Revelation chap 22 verse 21 get to know God and his word.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 4:56pmTake up your cross and follow Jesus. It’s the ONLY way.
The question is, can you be a follower in Jesus without and fruit?
Jesus said you will know them by their fruit.
Yes we are saved entirely by Jesus and his work on the cross. But do you “know Him”? I mean seek Him with all your might and put Him first above all?
Can you “believe” in Him and still not be saved? The bible says you can….
Satan believes too..he even quotes scripture…
“Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble” (James 2:19).
Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Report Post »…continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, Phillippians 2:12
scarebear83
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 5:31pmIn the Bible we are told to hear the word and believe: Heb. 11:6, Rom. 10:17, John 3:16. But belief alone is not enough. We are also commanded to repent- Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all in like manner perish. Acts 17:30 The times of ignorance therefore God overlooked; but now he commandeth men that they should all everywhere repent. One must confess: Romans 10:9 because if thou shalt confess with thy mouth Jesus as Lord, and shalt believe in thy heart that God raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. And one MUST be baptized into Christ for the remission of sins: Acts 2:37-38 Brethren, what shall we do? And Peter said unto them, Repent ye, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ unto the remission of your sins; and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Galatians 3:26-27 For ye are all sons of God, through faith, in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ did put on Christ. 1 Peter 3:20-21 that aforetime were disobedient, when the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water which also after a true likeness doth now save you, even baptism, not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the interrogation of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ. And Be faithful unto death Rev. 2:10. Why wait to obey the gospel? Acts 22:16
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:00pmHey RecoveringNeocon, You might have to re-post the Blaze’s false witness smear job on Ron Paul. Seems appropriate about now.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:07pmzing
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 10:52pmThey will not slip away if the seeds are being planted and the tares are separated from the wheat, so to speak. Take your children out of public schools and away from being indoctrinated to follow people instead of God’s Commandments. We see where that went. If not; look around. Get back to basics. Otherwise your children will follow after any doctrine that is pleasing to their ears and continue changing until they grow old without the Truth. God is more important to learn about with His Wisdom than all the teachings in all the schools. Every person will stand before God in the final Judgement to receive either everlasting peace or everlasting torment in Hell. None of us need to keep up with the Jones’ because others are not going to go to hell for those who forsake God and his teachings. All men are appointed once to die and after that the Judgement. (Yes that goes for the womenfolk, too.)
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 10:48pmSEVEN: ‘You shall not commit adultery.’
What if it’s consensual? Is that adultery?
EIGHT: ‘You shall not steal.’
Also obvious. Also not universal–should we not steal things from those who intend to put them to wicked uses? Is it wrong to steal from someone who has plenty to feed themselves and their family when you are starving?
NINE: ‘You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.’
Oddly specific. However, if it means to imply lying is categorically bad, not only is that untrue, it is outright immoral–if a Nazi comes to your door and asks you if you are hiding Jews in your attic, and you are, and you DON’T lie, and you KNOW what Nazis do to Jews, YOU HAVE COMMITTED UNSPEAKABLE EVIL.
TEN: ‘You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.’
Oh, great, round out the list with THOUGHT-CRIME. How moral. You know, I thought any problems with “coveting” would be covered by “thou shalt not steal” (also problematic if considered categorical, but see above)–are we punishing people for their THOUGHTS now, some of which come UNBIDDEN?!
In summary, the ten are either self-endorsements of the religion, OBVIOUS, not categorically moral, or inherently IMMORAL, and MOST are excessively punitive in their prescriptions for violation. These are GOD’S laws?! I could write more moral laws!!!
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:06pm@THE THIRD ARCHON
The Cowboy 10 Commandments (Seen on a sign at Risky’s BBQ in Ft Worth):
1) There is a God
2) (I can’t quite remember how it was said)
3) No cussin’.
4) Get yerself to Sunday meetin’.
5) Listen to yer Ma and Pa.
6) Don‘t be killin’ nobody.
7) Don‘t be messin’ around with yer buddie’s gal.
8) Don’t take what aint yers.
9) Don‘t be tellin’ tall tales.
10) Don‘t be hankerin’ yer buddies stuff.
This is not an exact quote, but it’s close.
I hope this puts it into terms that are easier to understand.
Even my transgender, atheist friend agreed with those.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 11:03amBrotherEd great post. Unfortunately, TheThirdArchon is too high minded to even consider anything as simple and non complex as that. He has an ego so high up his own… Well, let’s just say, he just about always spouts bul… Um, he’s a self righteous, obnoxious, incoherent fool…
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on May 25, 2012 at 1:17am1) There is a God
Report Post »Prove it.
2) (I can’t quite remember how it was said)
I’ll give a try–God: “WORSHIP ME!”
3) No cussin’.
Actually, it doesn’t say cussing, only “taking the Lord’s name in vain,” i.e. blasphemy. Which, is irrelevant until you’ve proven 1. (The same could be said of Commandment Two)
4) Get yerself to Sunday meetin’.
Ditto the redundancy until the first is proven.
5) Listen to yer Ma and Pa.
What if their evil sociopaths? Parents are not universally good. Yes, if they are decent people you owe them familial duty, but there are parents who SHOULDN’T be listened to.
6) Don‘t be killin’ nobody.
So no military, no police, no death penalty? Sometimes murder is the only option to uphold the good–like someone who is attempting to kill someone and can’t be stopped by any other means.
7) Don‘t be messin’ around with yer buddie’s gal.
What if he knows and she knows and they are fine with it? What about banging your buddy’s girl with him?
8) Don’t take what aint yers.
Unless it is being put to an evil use.
9) Don‘t be tellin’ tall tales.
Unless of course NOT lying would result in the murder of an innocent or something else heinous that would be perpetuated if you told the truth…perhaps you are being tortured for nuclear launch codes…or a thousand other possible scenarios.
10) Don‘t be hankerin’ yer buddies stuff.
Thought-crime? Wonderful. I thought unjustifiable theft covered all that was needed here.
The Third Archon
Posted on May 25, 2012 at 1:24amEven the HALFWAY decent commandments could be better written and explained by a child, and that’s not even getting into the draconian (and often self-contradictory) punishment prescribed for violations of the Ten. And ALL of the commandments that have ANY value could be figured out by someone with even the most MEAGER capacities of reason who lives in a social setting and desires to do so harmoniously–they don’t need an anachronistic book with a host of morally deplorable messages to teach them what is OBVIOUS (that society could not exist with rampant wanton theft and murder).
It has nothing to do with simplicity or complexity–if this is the BEST Christianity can come up with as the “ultimate” moral principles, then it’s done a TERRIBLE job by even the most MEDIOCRE of moral standards.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 10:39pm@CATFISH
First off: it’s Book of Mormon, not mormans…But I’ll forgive the spelling error as we are not all great spellers.
Secondly, I am not aware of ANY Christian church that says we are no longer subject to the 10 Commandments, that’s a new one to me.
Thirdly, as far as being a ‘false prophecy’, I don’t feel like getting into that right now, but you will find the Latter Day Saints to be a people that are among the most Bible literate denominations. We may interpret it differently than you, but rest assured, we are very familiar with it’s contents. We love the Bible.
The Book of Mormon testifies about Christ. We do not worship Joseph Smith, Jr – We worship God the Father through His Son, Jesus Christ.
Report Post »ThePostman
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 10:37pmWell, let’s see – do Christians celebrate and honor the Sabbath, aka Saturday? It is a commandment, after all. I do not see how we can continue the abomination of the Romans this long without reverting to our promise to God. Sunday is the sun god’s day, a day of heathen worship. We should be ashamed of ourselves.
There’s one commandment willfully violated. Shall we discuss some more of them? There are just ten commandments, the rest of it we can ask forgiveness for. But the ten, we have to obey.
Beck?
I will admit I have violated most of them. God have mercy on my soul. But what of you? Will you be spared?
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 10:37pm“BECK ASKS IF TEN COMMANDMENTS ARE SLIPPING AWAY FROM AMERICAN SOCIETY”
I certainly hope so!
Let’s break them down:
ONE: ‘You shall have no other gods before Me.’
Okay, so not moral, and self-serving–great for Christianity, if it’s true, but worthless if it’s not, and the jury is still out on that subject.
TWO: ‘You shall not make for yourself a carved image–any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.’
Ditto comment on the first.
THREE: ‘You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.’
Ditto comment on the first–man, for being perfect, God sure seems to have security issues.
FOUR: ‘Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.’
Why is THAT a moral edict punishable by death?
FIVE: ‘Honor your father and your mother.’
Unless your parents are evil and horrible. But if they aren’t, even most EVIL people do this! Hardly a high bar for virtue.
SIX: ‘You shall not murder.’
Report Post »Anyone with even the slightest reason, humanity, and value for life (their own and/or others’) can come to this conclusion.
Joshua7
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:02pmWhy shouldn’t God demand respect? He created us and everything around us, I’d say the first four commandments are the least he could ask for. If you don’t believe in God however, then move along. Don’t look at it. Why do you even care?
Honoring and respecting someone doesn’t make them your slavemaster.
And finally, is it going to hurt to have more “don’t kill” messages out there? I don’t so.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 2:02pm3RDARCH:
….Can you bind the chains[b] of the Pleiades?
Can you loosen Orion’s belt?
Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons[c]
or lead out the Bear[d] with its cubs?
Do you know the laws of the heavens?
Can you set up God’s[e] dominion over the earth?
“Can you raise your voice to the clouds
and cover yourself with a flood of water?
Do you send the lightning bolts on their way?
Do they report to you, ‘Here we are’?
Who gives the ibis wisdom[f]
or gives the rooster understanding?[g]
Who has the wisdom to count the clouds?
Who can tip over the water jars of the heavens
when the dust becomes hard
and the clods of earth stick together?…..
GOD SAID: “Would you discredit my justice?
Report Post »Would you condemn me to justify yourself?
Do you have an arm like God’s,
and can your voice thunder like his?
Then adorn yourself with glory and splendor,
and clothe yourself in honor and majesty.
Unleash the fury of your wrath,
look at all who are proud and bring them low,
look at all who are proud and humble them,
crush the wicked where they stand.
Bury them all in the dust together;
shroud their faces in the grave.
Then I myself will admit to you
that your own right hand can save you…
“Woe to him who quarrels with his Maker, to him who is but a potsherd among the potsherds on the ground. Does the clay say to the
girlnurse
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 2:05pm3rdARCH: U would poop yer pants if the Lord appeared before you:) Some day ALL your words will come back to bite you as you bow to Him. Because EVERY knee WILL Bow.
Report Post »Romans 14:11 It is written: “‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, ‘every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God.’”
Hova
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 2:56pm@GirlNurse
So, we are responsible to God and we have to follow his rules. He, however, is not responsible to anyone and he can do whatever he wants. Oh, and it’s moral because he says so. Is that your view on morality?
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 4:29pmHOVA: It’s kinda like the military…there IS a chain of command. Can you imagine if the clay stood up and said; “I don’t like the way you are molding me-make me taller”?
Life isn’t like that. I never made a star, a blade of grass, or a snail, much less a man. Yes God has allowed men to know Him in so many ways so that we will be without excuse in the end (and there is an end-you know that right?) Yes, He wants us to have morals and values and LOVE. Is that so bad? I can’t even take a breath of air without Him.
Psalm 19:1: To the Chief Musician. A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament shows His handiwork.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 5:45pmYo Hova:
Report Post »God made it … he makes the rules
He is without sin so that makes him right
kinda like that…
4truth2all
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 5:50pmYo Hova:
How about you invite me to you’re house, and when I come in I do whatever I want. How you gonna play that?
Report Post »Hova
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 8:42pmYes, you guys are all right. I should be thankful that God invited me over to his house and I shouldn’t complain about the fact that he force-fed me razors for twelve years because his drapes are lovely! Yes, our loving God granted me the privil- well, that‘s not exactly true since I have no choice over whether or not I’m born. So I was forced to exist by God. Well, at least he doesn’t just judge me off the bat. He waits until he really knows me as a person- wait, wasn’t there this one chick who ate an apple six thousand years ago? Yeah, apparently that means I am born a sinner. So, I’m forced to begin existing as a sinner. If I don’t get over being a sinner, I’ll go to Hell! Well, at least this world that God has forced me to exist on is filled with wonderful things that’ll convince me to repent. Things like SIDS, aneurysms, earthquakes, and other things that can kill me out of the blue for no reason! Gee, you’d think that, if God cared so much to have me on his planet, he’d have removed all the pointless, horrible rubbish like deserts, oceans, and polar tundras. Well, I guess he’s busy feeling the eternal bliss of his own existence without any effort, like all omniscient, omnipotent beings. Yeah, God really worked hard to put me here, by which I mean he literally, by definition, didn’t work at all, ever.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on May 25, 2012 at 1:35am@JOSHUA7
Report Post »You mean YOUR conception of God.
@GIRLNURSE
Ditto above. Also, if, when I die, there turns out to be a real God, He will have to be FAR greater than the pathetic God of Christianity to get MY reverence and respect. You are wrong–I will NOT bow for a hypocritical, narcissistic, murderous, immoral being, REGARDLESS of whether or not that being is the Creator of the universe, REGARDLESS of how powerful that being is, and REGARDLESS of the consequences. If the choice is between YOUR God and Satan, I throw my lot in with the latter and say “non servitur.” I will serve ONLY the good, inasmuch as I am capable–I know or desire no other master. And if God and good conflict, as your Christian God does on SO MANY instances that it’s OBVIOUS even to a weak human creature like me, then I must abandon God in favor of the good–even GOD’S authority must be JUSTIFIED to be LEGITIMATE.
The Third Archon
Posted on May 25, 2012 at 1:42am@HOVA
Man has ONLY ever had himself, his rationality, and his knowledge as the basis for forming moral judgments–it’s not perfect, but we HAVE no higher objective moral standard, else there would BE no controversy and morality would be self-evident a priori, yet CLEARLY this is not the case. The Bible and Christianity are no exception to this, and they VERY OBVIOUSLY bear the marks of human authorship for those who are not SO insistent on believing the contrary that they reject ANY evidence to the contrary. If you start from an initial assumption that a belief is infallible truth, then you can put your knowledge through ANY mental gymnastics you need it to in order to conform to your pre-existing a prima facie belief(s).
@GIRLNURSE
Report Post »If that self-excusing ******** about “God has endowed every person with the power to know Him” then why was Christianity a discrete historical event, prior to which no Christians existed (if it IS presumably the “one true religion”)? If that WERE true, morality and religion would not be in contest, as the TRUE answer would be SELF-EVIDENT, but CLEARLY that is not the case, there IS controversy on the subject, and you have PROVEN nothing.
The Third Archon
Posted on May 25, 2012 at 1:44am@HOVA
Report Post »Sorry HOVA, I accidentally copied your name instead of “GIRLNURSE & 4TRUTH2ALL”
4truth2all
Posted on May 25, 2012 at 8:12amYo Hova:
I know that in you’re reply you believe yourself to be quick of wit and of some intelligence, but besause of pride I find it ironic how this combination of attributes actually make a person ignorant and foolish ( not a personal attack). You have no understanding in you’re heart of anything you said, and yet you speak as though you do …
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on May 25, 2012 at 8:24amYo Third Archon:
If ( and I say if on you’re behalf) God created Adam &Eve , they also “walked with Him ” in the garden. Thus, “christianity’ started in and from the beginning.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 10:24pmCue up the post from the “Encinomunist” in 3……2……..1……..
Report Post »mastice
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:36pmHA – I love it!
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 1:10amBILLY, I just looked and must admit that I am really surprised to see that both ENCINO_NAMBLA_MAN and PETTYDRAMAQUEEN haven’t been here yet making their usual unsubstantiated insults. Their moms must have run them out of their basements or maybe just high to type tonight.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 8:00pmThere’s a NAMBLA_MAN on here???? Ewwww
Report Post »Hova
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 8:49pmWow, insulting anonymous strangers on the internet without them knowing! Now that’s what I call integrity.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 10:17pmWhy don’t you just ask, “Is water wet, is Biden a lunatic, would Obama do ANYTHING for a second term?”
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 10:16pmWe cant even get the people in the republican party to respect and follow the constitution – what makes you think society is going to fall in love with ten commandments?
Report Post »Catfish
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 10:13pmGlenn if you knew you scriptures you would know that we do not live under the ten commandments, the LORD nailed them to the cross and took them out of our way, that he might establish a new conenant ( The New Testement ) Not the book of mormans, Paul said if we (The Apostles or an Angel from heaven preach any other Gospel than that which we have preached let him be accursed. the book of mormans came along many years later, it is a false prophesy, and if you will study the book of Galatians you will that we do not live under the law, and that the JEWS are not Christians (Followers of the Lord Jesus) and are not Gods chosen people, when the vail was rent there was no differencs between the Jews and the Gentiles. any more
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 10:42pmJust to simplify, works will not get anyone saved. The works of Christ alone save. He saves and we have to accept the free gift of salvation; or we can deny it. The cool thing is once a person is saved, they want to do good works because we are grateful for being saved and our new nature yields a desire to do good even though our old nature fights us continuously. No one buys their way to Heaven. Christ alone saves. Nothing else, no one else. And as the times are, it’s fantastic to know Christ because nothing and no one can take a believer out of His hand.
Report Post »Joshua7
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 10:46pmI’m going to ignore the anti-mormon and anti-jew crapola for a moment.
What exactly is wrong with the Ten Commendments? Jesus‘ sacrefice wasn’t a free pass to steal, murder, commit adultery and worship a golden cow. Where does the hate for the Ten Commandments come from?
Report Post »Bryan B
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 10:49pm5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Catfish,This above is from the Book of Matthew.
Report Post »I don’t know where you got your ideas from, but it wasn’t from the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
rickc34
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 10:52pmSo what are you saying that the commanments have no place in our lives? If it wasn’t for them I would not now salvation. And the first group of Christians all jews. The old testament is relevant and all it has to teach us . Christ did away with the sacrificial system that become currupt. Gentiles are the wild olive branch that has been grafted in. Paul was a jew that he and Peter took the Gosple message 15 years after the accession of Christ. Salvation. Is for all . When the vail rent no more seperationbetween God and man. We now have a personall relationship with our savior. But getting back to the 10 commandments people need themthey are a moral ruler.as far as chrstians goI have seen my share of self rightous bigoted judgmental anti semetic lost souls pretending to be saved. I lovethe jewish people they gave us the bible. Look at the land they live in and watch how God bless’s them. God made a promise to Abraham and God does not go back on his word.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:08pm@CATFISH
My reply is posted a comment or two above yours.
Report Post »Midwest Blonde
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:39pmSorry Honey, you’re wrong about the new testament and the commandments.
First Commandment: You shall have no other gods before Me
Report Post »Matthew 4:10; 6:24; 22:37-38; Luke 4:8; Revelation 14:7.
Second Commandment: Thou shalt not worship Idols
Acts 15:20; 17:16; 29; 1 Corinthians 5:10-11; 6:9; 10:7, 14, 19; 12:2; 2 Corinthians 6:16; Galatians 5:20; Ephesians 5:5; Colossians 3:5; 1 Thessalonians 1:9; 1 Peter 4:3; 1 John 5:21; Revelation 2:14; 9:20; 21:8; 22:15.
Third Commandment: Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord in vain
Matthew 5:33-34; 1 Timothy 6:1; James 2:7.
Fourth Commandment: Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it Holy
Matthew 12:8, 12; 24:20; Mark 1:21; 2:27-28; 6:2; Luke 4:16, 31; 6:5; 23:56; Acts 13:14, 42, 44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:1-2; 18:4; Hebrews 4:4, 9-10 (See also Amplified, ASV, BBE, NASB, NIV, RSV and NRSV.)
Fifth Commandment: Honour your father and your mother
Matthew 15:4; 19:19; Mark 7:10; 10:19; Luke 18:20; Romans 1:30; Ephesians 6:1-2; Colossians 3:20; 2 Timothy 3:2.
Sixth Commandment: Thou shalt not Murder
Matthew 5:21-22; 19:18; Mark 7:21; 10:19; Luke 18:20; Romans 1:29; 13:9; Galatians 5:21; 1 Timothy 1:9; James 2:11; 1 Peter 4:15; 1 John 3:15; Revelation 9:21; 21:8; 22:15.
Seventh Commandment: Thou shalt not commit Adultery
Matthew 5:27-28; 19:18; Mark 7:21; 10:11-12, 19; Luke 16:18; 18:20; Acts 21:25; Romans 1:29; 2:22; 7:3; 13:9; 1 Corinthians 5:11; 6:9, 18; 10:8; Galatians 5:19; Eph
lukerw
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 11:45pm@TRON…
Report Post »And… where did Christ say that?
colt1860
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 11:11amI think you’ve misunderstood scripture here. The new covenant freely gives salvation to all those who call upon the name of Christ, and put faith in him. Those who receive his spirit are servants of righteousness and sin no more. That means they don’t commit iniquity, ergo, they don‘t break God’s commandments.
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 2:49pm@catfish, we humans can’t even get the first commandment right.
Report Post »snooop1e
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 4:49pm@CATFISH – Have you studied Martin Luther and the history of Sola Fide? Do you know that you are stating a Lutheran Doctrine? Do you know that the doctrine of Sola Fide is absent from Christian history before Martin Luther discovered it while sitting on the Privy (toilet)? Have you read John 3:16 in the original Greek? Below are some verses you might find interesting. God Bless.
Report Post »Numbers 15:30
Job 34:11
Psalm 34:9
Psalm 66:18
Proverbs 10:3
Proverbs 10:29
Proverbs 15:8
Proverbs 15:29
Proverbs 28:9
Ecclesiastes 12:14
Isaiah 57:2
Jer 11:6
Ezekiel 33:13
Matt 7:21
Matt 12:36-37
Matt 12:50
Matt16:24
Matt 16:27
Matt 25:40-46
Mark 3:35
Mark 4:24
Mark 7:15
Mark 8:34-35
Mark 9:42-50
Mark 10:11-12
Mark 10:29
Mark 11:25
Mark 13:13
Mark 13:36
Luke 9:23
Luke 14:27
Luke 18:9-14
Luke 18:29-30
John 6:66
John 8:51
John 9:31
John 12:48
John 12:50
John 13:17
John 14:15
John 14:21
John 14:23
John 15:10
Acts 10:34-35
Rom 2:6
Rom 2:9
Rom 2:13
Rom 2:7-8
Rom 14:12
1 Cor 6:9
1 Cor 10:13
1 Cor 11:27
2 Cor 5:10
Gal 5:19-21
Gal 5:24-25
Gal 6:7-8
Eph 1:18
Eph 2:1-3
Eph 4:17-24
Eph 5:3-12
Col 3:5-8
Col 3:23-25
2 Thes1:8
2 Thes 2:11
2 Thes 2:13-15
2 Thes 3:6
1 Tim 3:15
Heb 5:9
Heb 6:4-6
Heb 10:26
James 1:12-15
James 1:21-22
James 1:26-27
James 2:14-27
James 4:3
James 4:6-9
James 4:17
James 5:16
1 Peter 3:12
1 Peter 3:21
1 Peter 4:17
2 Peter 2:20
2 Peter 3:7
2 Peter 3:16-17
1 John 5:3
1 John 5:16
1 John 1:6-7
1John
circleDwagons
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 11:19pm@snoopie. I did study Luther many years ago. I don’t read latin, greek or german so what is your point about John 3:16. Salvation is a gift, Grace comes from Faith and Faith from the Spirit which is revealed thru Scripture.
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