Beck Challenges TX Gun Instructor Over Ad Refusing to Teach Muslims
- Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:02am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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Have you heard the Texas radio ad featuring a concealed carry gun instructor saying, essentially, that he won’t teach liberals or Muslims? Glenn Beck did over the weekend. And so during the first hour of his radio show he made sure to interview the instructor, Crockett Keller, on the program to explain himself.
Initially, the interview was lighthearted. But it soon turned into Beck challenging Keller over his views on teaching Muslims and ended with Beck imploring Keller to follow the example of Martin Luther King, Jr.
The ad, which features Keller pitching his service to those in the counties nearby, has gone viral on the internet. But it also includes a couple of controversial lines. Listen for yourself:
“If you are a non-Christian, Arab, or Moslem, I will not teach you the class,” Keller says in the ad.
So what is his reasoning for it?
“That was somewhat of a tongue-in-cheek jab at some of my liberal neighbors,“ he explained regarding his stance against ”socialist liberals” and those who voted for Obama. “You understand, I put this ad on a small, local country music station that has less about a less than a 50 mile radius. You know, I was pretty much speaking to my neighbors. That’s somewhat expanded, I think.”
He continued: “I have approximately 10 hours to try to instill some form of knowledge into a person where they can make a life and death decision in split second. When you carry a weapon to defend yourself … you have a scant few seconds to decide whether not this warrants using deadly force or otherwise. … Now, they [liberal voters] had over a year and a half to vet who they voted for president. Now how can I take 10 hours and try to teach them a life and death decision in just a few seconds in just a few seconds when they screwed it up after a year and a half?”
Beck chuckled at that, but then got to the point about Keller not wanting to teach Muslims. Co-host Pat asked if that was “tongue-in-cheek” also, or was he serious. Keller’s response?
“Not necessarily,” which seemed to be in response to the tongue-in-cheek part of the question. Still, he boasted, “Now you understand, and for the world to know, I have yet to deny anybody to take my class. I have never turned anybody away. But the challenge to me, why am I supposed to teach these people [Muslims] how to use a weapon, and to give them the ability to carry a weapon legally when we have seen these atrocious acts?”
“Wouldn’t you have to judge people by the content of their character, not by the color of their skin or by their religion?” Beck asked. “Wouldn’t you have to take it person by person — that would be the more reasonable thing to do.”
“Yes, and I have to do that,” Keller agreed. But he then went on to explain a scenario where he would be uncomfortable with a Muslim on the gun range.
“Judge them on the content of their character,” Beck implored Keller after going back-and-forth, who then explained that he has had conversations with moderate Muslims and said the key is getting the non-radical Muslims to speak out against the radical ones.
Beck repeated, “judge each by his individual merit and character,” and after the interview concluded that if you’re turning away someone based on their “religion” and “race,” you are violating the Constitution. He also wondered if the state of Texas would step in if it was found Keller was actually denying services based on race or religion.
You can listen to most of the interview below:
UPDATE:
According to HuffPo, Keller’s business practices are now being investigated by the Texas Department of Public Safety:
A spokeswoman at the Texas Department of Public Safety, the agency that certifies Texans to teach classes on concealed handguns, confirmed that the agency has launched an investigation into Keller’s business practices.
“The department became aware of the statements in question yesterday and has begun an investigation into the matter,” she said in a prepared statement. “The department will take appropriate administrative action based on the findings from the investigation.”
KVUE-TV has the report, as well as Keller defending his stance:
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Comments (496)
joxer
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:32amI agree with Keller 100% Why teach muslums to shoot deadly weapons so they can use it against us. Even moderate muslums do not speak up against the radicals and they are taught to kill in the name of thier religion.
Report Post »altops
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:36amYeup all muslims are enemies of our Constitution and ME.
Report Post »Lantern
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:48amEspecially when they practice Taqiyya, you don’t know what intentions they have. How can anyone judge a muslim’s content of character when they practice taqiyya? I suppose a Christian can also lie about their intent. If they are true muslims, there is no such thing as moderate. They either follow the koran or they don’t.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:53amaltops
Report Post »Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:36am
Yeup all muslims are enemies of our Constitution and ME.
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Actually, its bigots like you and the fear and parania that Beck spreads that are the enemies of the Constitution. ts bigouts like yourself that seek to prop up a theocracy and tear down the democratic republic that the founders left us.
SICKOFLIBSBULSH
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:55amKeller 1 Beck 0
Don’t try to bring all that Yankee learning with you to Texas. We have enough smart ass yankees already.
Report Post »bitter.clinger
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:58amMuslims believe in the doctrines of Taqqiya and Kitman…these basically state that Allah approves of Muslims deceiving others they want to dominate until they are strong enough to conquer them or wipe them out…that’s what Muhammed did at the birth of Islam. Lied and deceived to lull his enemy asleep before conquering their city (Mecca).
“However interpreted, the standard view on Qur’anic abrogation concerning war and peace verses is that when Muslims are weak and in a minority position, they should preach and behave according to the ethos of the Meccan verses (peace and tolerance); when strong, however, they should go on the offensive on the basis of what is commanded in the Medinan verses (war and conquest). The vicissitudes of Islamic history are a testimony to this dichotomy, best captured by the popular Muslim notion, based on a hadith, that, if possible, jihad should be performed by the hand (force), if not, then by the tongue (through preaching); and, if that is not possible, then with the heart or one’s intentions.”
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on November 2, 2011 at 11:03am.
Muslims have already shown a skill at killing.
Why give them training?
Christians and Jews seem to invent and cure, and islam excels at murder.
Report Post »KangarooJack
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:31amHaving fun reading the posts on this one-I’m sure Beck is having fun too.
Report Post »azjeff1963
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:01pmwell Glenn you always say to do the research and make up our own minds.
Report Post »Looks like the majority sides with Mr Keller on this issue.
hard to judge someones“ individual merit and character” especially when they think its okay to LIE to non islamest’s and they are already sitting in your classroom with a weapon….your way off on this one…..maybe you ought to leave the Gun training to the professionals.
INOGAWD
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:52pmMr. Keller is right !! It would be like putting illegals and
Report Post »gang-bangers in our Military..
chrisden
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:09pmI disagree with Glenn on this one. Keller knows this is a very serious class on gun safety. Wouldn’t it have been nice if the Florida flight instructor who taught the 9/11 hijackers how to fly a plane would have used some of the same criteria. Just saying……
Report Post »piper22
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:13pmNormally I love what Glenn has to say, but he’s missing the point. The Consitution gives us the right to “bear arms”, not to be taught how to use them. This gentleman, while he may not win much new business with his statements, has every right to teach WHOMEVER HE WANTS TO and refuse WHOMEVER HE WANTS TO. Is Glenn seriously wanting the government to step in and control this man’s business?
Report Post »anOpinion
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:14pmI disagree with Glenn as well. Unless he’s in a position of power that denies someone training (i.e. govt only allows one trainer, and he’s it), he should be able to use any criteria he wants for choosing who he teaches.
Report Post »Jezcruzen
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:15pmI support Keller. He can teach or not teach anyone he wants. I think that was once described as :freedom”.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:19pmOne Muslim is a killer and the other not. That is the way it is. There is virtually no way to tell the difference between them until one of them kills. This instructor is using good common sense and will only err on the safe side. He is doing his job absolutely perfect. If he trained both Muslims knowing that one may be a killer, he would be careless. Always err on the safe side when using or training to use guns. Nearly half of all Muslims favor suicide bombings.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:21pmI think he’s operating under “profiling”…I support Keller 100%! You don’t like it, find another instructor!
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:23pmKeller sounds like a free thinking American who does business with people he chooses to do business with. Lets not forget the public service he is doing for his community.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:36pmSorry guys…but…Glenn’s position on Muslims is troubling to me…I sympathize with his position in that he must be careful what he says because he has enormous influence in our country. However, after four years the only Muslim that even begins to make sense to me is Dr. Zudi Jasser…NOW…HE GETS IT! Look him up on youtube and you will understand his position! Dr. Jasser states that the Muslim “religion” needs to move into the 21st Century…he is well aware that the “religion” DOES NOT separate “church and state”…He believes that this is a real problem and has no place under our Constitution to freely practice what the Koran teaches! Until their “cult” undergoes transformation they DEFINITELY pose a threat to our nation and our way of life! So we need to stop the assaults on our citizens and PROFILE those who fit the description of the TRUE enemy!
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:39pmWhat ever happened to those signs that said, “WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE”.
Yeah well, if flight and airline pilot instructors did the same thing as this man, 3000 lives would have not perished and the Twin Towers might still be there.
I think Beck is taking the wrong angle here. Unless I missed something in the article, I don’t see racism in this. This man has just identified our enemies and chooses not to aid and abet them.
Did Beck wake up on the politically correct side of the bed, or what?
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:45pmSounds like Beck is find with the TSA searching eighty year old grandmothers and 6 month old infants because we would want to judge by skin tone. Even though almost all terrorist seem to have that one thing in common. I say anyone who owns any business should have the right to deny anyone they want goods and services. In the end they’re only hurting their bottom line by denying peopel access to thier business.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 2:08pmSorry, it’s illegal for him to discrimate on the basis of race, color, religion or national origin. That’s simply the law, although I know people would like to see exceptions based on who they like and don’t like.
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 2:16pmWhat part of we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone doesn’t apply? The guy doesn‘t have to teach anyone he doesn’t feel comfortable teaching. Go to another instructor. If enough people have a problem with his policies the free market will sort him out. He will probably see a skyrocketing amount of business.
Here comes a lefty boycott- but they hate guns so he won’t feel that. Here comes the state of Texas, but he has done nothing wrong. Here comes the ACLU- they hate guns too. Poor poor radical islamists. There are still people who can give a crap less about your feelings. Mr. Crockett, if I lived in Texas i’d drive across the star to pay you for your service.
Radical islamists get plenty of weapons training from alqaeda camps. Cry cry cry.
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 2:27pmJzs
Finally you’ve seen the light. I can’t wait for you to stand up and proclaim that the“ minorities and women are encouraged to apply”statement is “illegal.”
Of course you won’t, you plastic banana. Fake. Phony. Liar. Master hypocrite. Bottom feeder. Creature of darkness. Pink lady.
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 2:48pmI am totally surprised by Beck’s statement. Wow.
Thank God for Mr. Keller who has the common sense to know when there may be a danger to himself or others. Have we become so PC that our own safety is now in jeopardy? What has to happen to make people realize this country is underseige from muslim terrorists? Yes, they can act like they are your nice neighbor next door. For those who claim they are not terrorists and are peace loving, they of all people should understand our fears. If they don’t get it, then they can go back to the country they came from. It’s time someone takes a stand for America and the safety of the American people for a change. Thank you Mr. Keller for being that person!!!
Report Post »My Two Cents
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 3:02pmOK Glenn since you asked for us to judge people on their character here goes.
Muslims follow the teachings of Muhammad who is purported to have personally cut the heads off of 700 or so Jews, turned prisoners of war into slaves, forced his followers to believe his teachings, demanded that his followers hate and kill anyone who is not a muslim, etc., etc., etc.
Anyone who follows this kind of faith sounds like a pretty sorry individual to me and there is no middle ground. You either believe in Islam and it‘s teachings or you don’t.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 3:03pmThere are a number of ways at looking at this. That being said, I will preface my comments with stating that I have lived two years in Iraq and Afghanistan, was an advisor to their national police, have lived amongst them, patrolled alone (no other Americans), and placed my security total in their hands. While I have placed trust in them, I never really trust them.
Muslims -Their belief system is all predicated on a lie. A liar claims (500 years after the Truth) claims he walked out in the desert and a six hundred winged angel imparted truth to him. He (by himself) wrote the unholy koran, which is basically a tarnished version of the Bible, he had Moses and Noa living at the same time, with many other inaccuracies. He spread his false religion by the sword and spear, had sex with his son’s wife, molested a 9 year old girls, and his fake religion made him mega rich. Every Islam is practiced, there are serious problems. They treat women like property, their religion allows them to rape non muslim women, and they do not mix into other populations, but try to enforce their religion and sharia law on others. Run up and check out Dearborn, Michigan if you may.
If this man runs a private owned school where he teaches people how to properly carry a firearm, then it should be his prerogative in who he trains.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 3:05pmsaying “there are good muslims” is like saying “there are good cancers ”
I believe muslims can read the Bible (some do) and still get saved by the Jesus of the Bible. If they believe in Islam and its false teachings, they are not good, and it will not end well for them.
Report Post »riverdog1
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 3:32pmno suprise here on the bigots. how about if he said he won’t teach jews? they vote liberal usually. how about those lutherans, nope sorry not the “right” kind. very predictable.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 3:40pm@Rangerp
You have it right. Islam is all lies and Muslims are liars. Mohammad copied and bastardized the Bible just as you said. Mohammad said and did exactly as you said. Our folks in Iraq can never trust a Muslim. Last I heard Muslims in Dearborn were trying to get church bells (and probably churches) outlawed.
Report Post »Zer0
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 3:54pmI feel that if Mr. Keller is running a private business, that he has a right to instruct anyone he wishes to. However, I agree with Beck, deciding to teach someone based on their religious beliefs (or ethnicity) is a poor personal decision.
Report Post »Rob in Katy
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 4:01pmJZS: unless one considers Islam a political/social/military association…. God said to turn the other cheek, not to put your neck on the chopping block. I know that is a difficult distinction for those with limited reasoning capabilities and that are unable to grasp the larger picture. which is by the way, “they want you dead or paying taxes to ol’mo.”
Report Post »Edct
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 4:16pmmuslims are murdering infidel pigs with an agenda to take over whereever they can and when people refuse to follow their pig sucking religion they will execute thiem….I usually agree with Beck, but this time I side with the gun instructor…we need more people with balls to speak out and say that if the libs think it is PC, then 9 out of 10 times do the opposite and it will be good for America.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 4:43pmbeing muslim does demonstrate content of character. If they truly believe the Koran, this guy is right to not teach them how to shoot. Some of the 911 hijackers trained martial arts in the US, which prepared them to hijack the plains with box cutters and plastic knives…So I don’t think this guy is totally in the wrong for refusing to teach lethal technique to anybody he feels might use it for the wrong reason. It is his responsibility to use his discretion when teaching this stuff. If someone dressed as a gang banger, or white power tattoos I am certain he would refuse them as well.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 5:58pmSeems to me that the TP is all in favor of the Constitution and the laws of the land. Except when they aren’t. In other countries it’s okay to discrimate, maybe you should move there. But in the US, it’s illegal.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 6:03pm@JZS: “Sorry, it’s illegal for him to discrimate on the basis of race, color, religion or national origin. That’s simply the law, although I know people would like to see exceptions based on who they like and don’t like.”
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First of all, “discrimate” is spelled “discriminate”…
Want to show me the law that supports your claim? No? Didn’t think so…cause it DOESN’T EXIST! At least, not in THIS country! You are in America aren’t you? If you are talking about “hiring” someone to work for your company…you MIGHT have a case to make!
Get educated and then you can post and make a real contribution!
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 6:20pmDebi, sure it’s illegal. Maybe you missed it in real life or didn’t study it, but restaurants can no longer refuse to serve blacks based on their color, and the same applies to the other “protected groups”. It’s called the Civil Right Act (and it covers employment too, as you say).
“The Federal Civil Rights Act guarantees all people the right to ‘full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.’”
http://www.legalzoom.com/us-law/equal-rights/right-refuse-service
Thanks for the spelling correction though.
Report Post »johnannegalt
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 6:54pmI knew he was going to be attacked for his LEGAL stance a week ago when I received the link to the video through an email.. Mark America knew it, too… Beck, you’re wrong on this one. http://markamerica.com/2011/10/29/now-theyre-going-after-crockett-keller/
Report Post »Tronix
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 7:14pmI’m against discrimination and racism. But neither there is space nor is welcome in my house or business those whom religion states open and clearly that is ok to kill me if I am not converting to their god. I’m sorry, the enemy is the enemy. Period. The enemies of my God are my enemies. Period.
One thing is to have boundaries and living (Trying) in peace. One must to live by justice as our God asked us to do. But a whole different thing is opening your gates to your enemy, and giving them all the tools and skills to be as proficient as you are. Even the Bible says that you must not do that. We must be careful all the time.
Welcoming your declared enemy in your house and your business is dumb, and is like if I could almost hear God saying “But my son, you let them in”.
This is not the same as being racist. Their satanic religion states to kill us all. Plain simple. Become close to them, and all you got is that maybe they will kill you the last, but they will kill you anyway. And if they don’t because they are “moderate”, their fanatic friends will.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 7:51pm@JZS: Okay you got me there! But you are welcome for the spelling correction!
BUT…I still agree with Keller…America USED to GET IT! Not so much anymore…I believe It is why we are losing the war on terror! OBL won as far as I’m concerned…He said that the war on terror would bankrupt America…it has!
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 8:04pmAzDebi, frankly I usually use a spell checker.
Report Post »seldomscene
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 8:51pmGlenn, would you have readily taught Arabians to fly airplanes who did not want to learn how to take off or land? We have a right to be vigilant. No, we have the duty to be vigilant! You may need to rethink this. Unless you want your own “be prepared” philosophy to be self fulfilling. It is his duty to be vigilant. I hope you amend your your statements.
Report Post »sooner12
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:04pmThis guy has the right to refuse service to anyone he chooses. Sorry Glenn, I side with Keller.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:26pmOK you brillinat dumbasses. Would you refuse to train the Grand Wizzard of the KKK?????
I wuold refuse any member of the KKK, Arian Brotherhood, Muslim Brotherhood. Laraza, any member of Congress and especially Barak Obama. All of these people are unstable in my eyes and Texas State law says that you cannot teach the mentally unstable….There ya go, your answer.
If you follow some of your idiotic reasoning you would be forced to teach them all how to conceal a firearm….You want a KKK member with a concealed handgun running around? Well do ya PUNKS!!!
This site is full of BRAIN DEAD people. Think for God’s sake!!!!!
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:39pmHey Glenn..what about that Muslim Major who killed 13 and injured 29 at Fort Hood….and Glenn..what about those two nice Muslim men who were taught in our country to fly planes.and flew them into the twin towers. murdering approximately 3000 people. .What about the right of businesses to post signs which say…We reserve the right to refuse business to anyone? Geez Glenn…to make them feel at home..maybe we should let them come out of their Mosques and train in the open for suicide bombings and Jihad.. After all…don’t you think that they should have that constitutiona right? After all their leader is our leader and he is the First President of the United States without a birth certificate.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:52pmOne more thing Glenn… you give the argument that the guys who flew the planes into the Twin Towers…that the men should have been reported. because they didn’t learn how to land…well in the future..if they were to do such a thing..don’t you think that they might want to learn how to land? I mean..they didn’t have to because it was their first run..the next time won’t be..Islam is a theocracy..not a religion… they aren’t stupid..
Report Post »you really don’t give them much credit Glenn..they aren’t that backwards…they are however not one of us.and no matter how much you try to make them be…they will never be unless they are converted from their theocracy.
KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 12:27amGlenn is wrong! Where is the freedom to choose who you choose to serve? Does this mean I can sue for not being able to get a minority scholarship, after all they are denying me because of my race right?
Report Post »When will people stand up for the real teachings of the Bible, “What fellowship has light with darkness” Should we be supporting evil? Should we support and give aid to a Satanic religion? Then don‘t support Islam and it’s domination! I am with Mr. Keller!
naed5048
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 1:10amI agree with this guy. wholeheartadly……
Report Post »FreeOurPOWs
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 5:41amSometimes Glenn Beck gets it totally wrong and this is one of those times. Glenn, if there is such a thing as “moderate muslims”, why have they not spoken out about the barbaric murderers amongst them? The answer is obvious. They agree with the barbaric 7th Century murderers who push their religion, actually a cult of death and oppression, and are quietly waiting in the background for sharia law and islam to conquer America. Progressivism has paved the way. Your foolish political correctness merely helps them. I would suggest you study islam and their book, and if you do so honestly, you will see that the murderous terrorists who kill people the world over in the name of islam are merely following their book written by an angry warrior madman.
For this gun instructor in TX to train muslims and liberals is to train the “enemy within” and that would the epitome of stupid. The gun instructor gets it and I hope you are proud of yourself for bringing down the weight of progressivism on his head as he will most likely lose his certificate for doing the right thing. Glenn, that makes you an ally to the enemy within and part of the problem, but it does allow you to continue to appeal to progressives and the like, thereby increasing your listening and viewing audiences.
Report Post »Jackers
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 6:20amCrockett Kelly has every right to determine who he wishes to instruct or not… And I agree with Kelly… Common sense is more important than being politically correct.
Report Post »OneofMany
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:07pmHere is the PROBLEM… GLENN uncharacteristically has NOT done his research… and this whole notion of Islamic Extremists he uses is logically false. Glenn READ the KORAN… as a matter of fact, anyone who agrees that there are “Extreme” Islamist and ‘Moderate” Islamist needs to READ the KORAN… WHEN you do, you will SEE that the Koran is VERY CLEAR and the ones you call “Extreme” are just following the Koran’s instructions, the ones you call “Moderate” are like “gay christians” which is a logical impossibility or oxymoron. or like calling a person who believes homosexuality is a sin is an “Extreme” christian….
Glenn have you even read the Bible??
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:49pmI‘m surprised Glenn’s sounding so “politically correct” on this one. In fact, it doesn’t sound like Glenn at all.
Report Post »Get a good night’s sleep, Glenn, and do a re-think! Mr Keller’s thinking is All American and Right On!
lema_alpha
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 7:02pmGlenn has no trouble with the Socialist portion of the advertisement but wants the instructor to judge the Muslims on the content of their character. Glenn before you stand with Muslim, you had better see how many of them are standing and how many are sitting while you stand! Note: all Socialists are SOCIALIST; all Muslims are NOT MUSLIM (i.e. you have to judge them by their character)?
Report Post »em308knight
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 9:43pmSorry Glen. It dies seem to me that Obummer did get to you and really threatened you. Yo have coward down to him which is sad. I am greatly ashamed of you. Mr.Crockett Keller is within his rights to take this action. I get really nervous and upset every time I see a group of Dune Coons at the local shooting range firing AK47′s and speaking Arabic no English at all. I have even heard anti American comments from them while they are shooting. What am I supposed to do when they cuss at America while shooting AK47′s ??????? So Mr Crockett, you go right on doing what you believe is right in your heart. I am an American Vet and I stand behind Mr. Crockett 1000 percent. God Bless You Sir!!! I do have a CHL.
Report Post »em308knight
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 10:00pmJust to add a tidbit: Gun Store dealers regularly choose not to sell a firearm to a person if they feel uncomfortable about. I know over twenty gun store owners and they all practice this policy so long as greed doesn’t overcome them.. There are no laws at all that binds them to Religion, Race or Ethnicity. Gun dealers can absolutely refuse to sell a firearm to any one who might be unfit or unqualified to legally purchase a firearm. It’s Federal Law. Look it up!! So why not extend this policy to the concealed weapons laws?????? A citizen with a CHL is a well informed, firearms law educated and usually well disciplined person. A safer person.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on November 2, 2011 at 3:06amIslam functions to eliminate character. Our definition of “character” does not apply to Islam. They see lying to Kuffar (infidels), killing Kuffar (infidels), dying a martyr while waging Jihad, etc, as virtuous.
Islam is no more a religion than Al Gore is a scientist.
Islam is a cult of indoctrination and political dominance.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on November 2, 2011 at 3:08amWHAT AZJEFF said. WHEN are you “lovers of all humanity” going to acknowledge that ISLAM is from SATAN. THEY do NOT worship the GOD of ABRAHAM…never have. THEY ARE BEING GROOMED to kill all of us. I pray for MUSLIMS, especially those trapped by the parts of the BIBLE that the 700AD Islamic Tribal guys ripped off thinking they would have a ‘religion’ that controlled their tribes as well as Judiasm and Christianity…but to to believe that a MUSLIM wishes us well is nonsense. IF they wish us well, let them leave the teachings of HATRED. Aside from the fact that they are taught it’s okay to LIE (as Obama is lying about who he is); that the ends justify the means and they intend to take over the whole world. YOUR SECOND CLUE that they have – 0 – to do with the GOD of the UNIVERSE is that the GOD of the UNIVERSE does not FORCE PEOPLE to believe, to come to Him, to Pray to him and he‘d never ’kill someone’ for backing away from him. YOUR third clue is the teachings…not only do they want to kill all the JEWS, but THEY have TWO MESSIAHS’ (neither one is JESUS) . GLENN, there are some people who are enemies. IT’S okay. GOD is in control and things do not happen TO us but FOR us for those who love GOD. SO no, IF a person was a MUSLIM but left figuring out that they were evil and wanted to take gun lessons fine. Other wise you are just arming those who want to kill us all.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on November 2, 2011 at 3:10am“if you’re turning away someone based on their “religion” and “race,” you are violating the Constitution.”
Wrong, Beck. CONGRESS shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion.
That does not mean private businesses do not have the right to turn away customers who subscribe to religions that they disapprove of.
If a satanic cult member walked into one of this guy’s classes, would Beck declare that he’s “acting unconstitutionally” for turning him away? If someone’s “religion” regularly brainwashes its followers into believing that its A-O-K to lie, cheat, steal, enslave, and kill non-believers, then why should we criticize a gun instructor for refusing to teach followers of said religion?
Islam around the globe wants very much to dominate or destroy all western societies, starting with Israel, ending with the USA. Teaching them how to use a gun is indeed suicidal.
Report Post »obamabirthcertificate.net
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:20am@RangerP
Well said Rangerp and thank you for your service.
Report Post »toodarnedstubborn
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:29amSorry Glenn, I have to disagree with you this time. I don’t hear any so-called “moderate muslims” screaming against sharia law, 911, or any other despicable act the muslims commit. I’m behind the business owner 100%. He can refuse anybody he wants to, and should refuse muslims.
Report Post »Philo Beddoe
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:01pmThe guy can teach who he wants. If the muslims want to be trained let them go elsewhere. THis is a OPTIONAL class.
I don’t hear much about the Christians being massacred and chased from their countries in the middle east just for being Christians.
Report Post »The Scarecrow
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:44pmTOO DARNED STUBBORN is right Where are all these moderate muslims speaking out against the radicals. They are afraid to speak because they know first hand what kind of punishment they might receive from people of their own religion. Where are all the moderate muslims that are doing good deeds in America for America?
Report Post »A man who teaches classes on firearm safety shouldn’t have to teach anyone he feels uncomfortable with, or feels is incompetent. I’m sure he wants everyone in the class to feel safe too. Trying to force somebody to teach Muslims or others he’s not comfortable with is not the way it should be in a free America. I’m disappointed in Beck, used to watch him everyday.
INOGAWD
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:47pmKODOS to Mr. Keller…I Voted for Obama, but since have had
Report Post »a “Change” of heart and would “Hope” to get a CCP…TKS !!
scrapadapolis
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:28amMr Keller is providing a service and has the right to not render service to ANYONE he deems not fit or properly use the information obtained from HIS federal firearms license and to TEACH the proper use of firearms!!Im not a christian or muslim or any demination Im agnostic I know of a higher power and treat all the same EXCEPT the muslim faith!!
Report Post »MikeJoyous
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:36pmHe has the political right to not teach anyone. Beck is questioning this teacher on the moral issue: is it right to not teach someone on the basis strictly of group affiliation?
Report Post »My attitude is that if I trust the teacher to interview his students properly, I would be happy to have a moslem learn the art of self-defence.
For those folks who accuse moslems of lying, the moslem did *not* lie initially about his moslem affiliation.
hidden_lion
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 4:53pmGangs are group affiliation, I wouldn’t teach them, Neo-Nazi national socialists are group affiliated, I wouldn’t teach them either….
Report Post »Drakkhanlord
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:28amP i $$ on beck …
musssslim and musssslim extremist is same dam animal…you either follow the koran/sharia or you do not…
Report Post »Beck , you Can keep your pc bs to yourself.
Annie Fields
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:27amYeah, but that’s like… pro-Muslim… and Beck HATES Muslims, right?
Whah?
That’s MSM BULLCR*P?
He’s scrupulously fair? It’s PRINCIPLES that matter?
Oh.
Report Post »Carborendum
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:26amLet me break down what Keller actually said for you all.
1) This is how I personally feel about these parties in general.
Report Post »2) I understand the law. It’s fair. I don’t like it. But I’ll obey the law.
spidah59
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:25amGlenn you are dead wrong on this!!
Report Post »madasblazes
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 5:57pmDammit! I just got ANOTHER Emergency Alert System message; third one today. Knocked me off the internet today during important business work. I called the cable provider twice and they said they have “No control–the Federal Government controls the companys”.
Report Post »Keller needs to exercise his Freedom while he still has it. We are losing it fast. ( I also can’t get on GBTV).
Dammit!!!
pamela kay
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 8:12pmIs he really? Or is he smarter than you are giving him credit for? Look, if they are citizens how can they be denied? If we claim to be honoring the constitution then we have honor it, don’t we? If we deny them the right they will use it against us to enforce stricter gun control and eliminate concealed carry. Beck knows this and understands the games the progressives are playing and the power behind them. He don’t fully know the ins and outs that it takes to keep us from loosing the rights that we currently have. I trust Beck. He would not make this statement unless he had something to back him up. Some muslims are concerned for their safety from radicals that would judge them and harm them if for no other reason because they are muslims. I think sometimes we have to consider the lesser of the two evils to accomplish our efforts. Beck knows this. We don’t want to loose our right to carry. The outcome would be far worse.
Report Post »boone b
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:24amt have the right to not deal or deal wtth who i choose…muslims no not ever any time…
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:14pmGlenn Beck has a few non brainwashed brain cells left. And a conscience. Kudos Beck-don’t back down, and muslims have the right to believe as I do that 9-11 was blowback for our evil policies in their homelands. And not to jump through your hoops by speaking out against al quada. And they have the right to express the opinion that on 9-11 your chickens came home to roost and it was a long time coming. And that one‘s mans terrorist is another’s freedom fighter. Glenn Beck created you unamerican tyrants and bigots and he realizes that his true idol-americanism-has being undermined by his own anti-muslim preaching.He feels guilty-he created this monster and is backing away from it. When an american says he bars people of a religion from his business-we are 21stc nazis.[they always give you reasons for thir bigotry]. Wow ! I’d love to see the rebublican candidates discuss this one. Show the world what 21stc americans have become!Will the republicans support this guy and expose themselves as nazis or will they wimp out and expose their cowardly impotence?Either way these anti-semites[against muslims this time] lose.If this stuff keeps getting media attention-Obamas a shoe in![well he is anyway].
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:23pmSocialists arguing with socialists. How sad.
Report Post »Obama_Sham
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:51pmLOL @ Rose-Ellen…
Time for your meds…
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 2:37pmPoor poor Rosie
Thanks for standing up against bigotry. Finally you’ve defended Israelis and Christians rights to enter the mosque in Jerusalem. I like you thought that people shouldn’t be allowed to be discriminated against based upon religion. To see you standing up for the rights of Christians and Jews around the world is truly refreshing. Please continue to speak out in support of Israelis and Christians being massacred and churches and synagogues being burned down. You are a wonderful human being for standing up against sharia law and showing your love for all Jews.
And we thought there was no hope for you. Keep fighting the good fight and Israel will survive. Great work, Rosie.
Report Post »TriadTx
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:22amBeck you are misinformed. Since Mr. Keller who owns a private business can deny access or training to anyone he sees fit or unfit in this matter. The so called moderate Muslims can go anywhere else they so choose. I for one am a Texan and share the same sentiment that Mr. Keller does. If you were so informed about Islam you would understand that they are and always will support Islam over any other countries; especially the United States Constitution rules or law. They will however; use our laws against us without issue. I do not believe there are any moderate Muslims.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:49amGlenn, you need to get your head out of your hind end on this one. Private businesses can sell to whom they want when they want, or conversely not sell.
Report Post »As far as Muslims go, don”t have too much use for any of them. If you haven’t figured out yet that you will not see any Muslims in the Kingdom of Heaven, then you do not know your Bible very well. The so called moderates that you speak of own and operate gas stations and Convenient type grocery stores, selling alcohol and cigarettes to underage children and send a significant part of their profits to fund terrorists in the Middle East. They do not support the Constitution or the American way of life. They support the the advocates of Sharia Law, and many of them celebrated when the Twin Towers came down. would you like them as your Neighbor? Didn’t think so.
rose-ellen
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 4:09pmOf course churches should not be burned down and christians and jews should be allowed to practice their faiths freely[and prior to western colonization and zionist european interlopers the 3 faiths had seperate court systems in arab lands where they did live harmoneously.] Colonialism and zionism-caused religious divisions as europeans privileged christians over muslims when they colonized the mid east and as zionisism turmed muslims against zionist jewish occupyers..Religious tolerance was historically the norm in arab lands[neither jews or christians are really considered heritics by muslims as they all believe in God]. neither arab jews or arab christians would exist at all after 1700 yrs. of islam being in the mid east if they persecuted non-muslimsAnd to this day arab jews in israel are persecuted by european jewish zionist racists..Entering a mosque is a different story. Sharon went in that mosque to assert the zionist position that they would remain in occupied illigally acquired jerusalem-hence reneging on the path to peace recognized by all parties since the 67annexation of jerusalem.That was a provocative act and inflammatory.Of course you rabid anti arab war mongers loved it. But just like native americans bar non- natives from certain rites -muslims can bar non-muslims from certain sites. None of this has anything to do with our secular democracy where we take pride in claiming all people are equal and all religions are tolerated.Hypocrite!
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 4:58pmRose Ellen-
Report Post »As usual you are smokin drugs, Islam conquered western lands, The Euro’s tried to take it back. We have been fighting them since their inception. The only peace christians had under Muslim rule was akin to being slaves. They had to pay higher taxes, and their voice didn’t count in court proceedings.
trench99
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:22amI’d rather be a principaled racist or bigot than a weepy kool-aide drinking traveler of the hershey highway! If you don‘t stand for something you’ll fall for anything ( like Hope & Change ).
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 2:33pmYou’re the one who stands for nothing as you berate muslims for violence that americans and israelis engage in for political ends too. And as you claim[wrongly of course] that you fought for universal human rights and equality and freedom of expression and religious tolerance only to now deny it for muslims as you tyranically expect them to jump through your hoops by expressing political beliefs that conform to YOURS [regarding alquada or israel].When tested you’re professed belief of being the standard bearers for being a nation of laws-not men- is as false as your narrative about defending human rights.Hypocrites-swayed by anti-semtic [against muslims this time] media propaganda like the good germans you’ve become.Beck has a conscience-all you have is morally bankrupt pride in embracing unamerican [nazi] values.
Report Post »Damage6
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:32amRose-Ellen you unfortunately seem to have drunk way to much cool-aid. Unless we sing the praises of a vile and depraved cult we are, “denying Muslims freedom of expression and not being tolerant of their religion”. Sorry I’m not buying your BS as you wrap yourself in the constitution and accuse your fellow countrymen of being the villains. You should look up tolerance in the dictionary. To tolerate something is just that tolerate, not love, not agree with, and certainly not bow down to. Your disrespect for your own country is loud and clear right along with your anti semitism (against Jews). It’s American(s) not american(s) you pathetic leftist traitor and in America we support our allies including Israel (not israel) you bigoted harridan. Fortunately for people of your scabrous ilk (and unfortunately for the security and well being of the nation) the average American has allot of tolerance for leftist tools as well as Muslim jihadists. We have seen countless examples of Islamofascists either infiltrating here or being born here and metastasizing into radical jihadists. But you and your fellow islamopoligist quislings can only attack your fellow Americans. “Mustn’t piss off the jihadist now or you may end up dead”. You are not only a traitor you’re a coward. Your fellow leftards are in the streets right now screaming for revolution. You better pray that your buddies in the mob don’t get what they want because you’ll be on the losing end of tha
Report Post »texasfarmer
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:21amCome on Glenn. You are sounding a little too PC on this one.
Report Post »Freedom of speech and association? Yep.
bitter.clinger
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:29amI stand with you as well on this Texasfarmer…if you think Islam itself supports “moderate Muslims” then you are sadly mistaken and need to about what’s actually in the Koran, Hadith and Muslim doctrine.
Brigitte Gabriel and Act for America is a great source for this…
Report Post »http://actforamerica.org/
TriadTx
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:21amBeck you are misinformed. Since Mr. Kent who owns a private business can deny access or training to anyone he sees fit or unfit in this matter. The so called moderate Muslims can go anywhere else they so choose. I for one am a Texan and share the same sentiment that Mr. Kent does. If you were so informed about Islam you would understand that they are and always will support Islam over any other countries; especially the United States Constitution rules or law. They will however; use our laws against us without issue. I do not believe there are any moderate Muslims.
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:09pmIf you don’t think that CAIR will use this along with their progressive financial backing to enforce guncontrol and our right to carry you are only fooling yourselves, When has Beck turned his back in us? Come on , we are living in a country where a little boy is now allowed to be a “GIRL SCOUT”. Where some moron can make the Catholic church remove their crosses from a Catholic school and you don‘t think that they won’t use this to take away our rights as gun owners? Are you forgetting the money and the power that is being used on a daily basis against us?
Report Post »Michael61
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:19amWhat about refusing to teach Muslims to take off and to fly the plane but not to land it?
I would teach them to shoot but report them to FBI first, just in case. I don’t like snitches in general, but have to make an exception in case of Muslims.
Report Post »bitter.clinger
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:19amI actually disagree with Glenn on this one and stand with Crockett on this one. When someone you do not know simply shows up at your firerarms training class with a loaded weapon, you do not have time to judge them “by the content of their character” and likely still won’t be able to do so after 10 hours with them in the midst of the rest of the class. Crockett is at least in part responsible (and likely liable) for anything that happens during his class – including a nut (Muslim or otherwise) that starts to shoot the other students…and likely also if this nut student goes on to jihad-murder Americans. Glenn is treating this like it’s simply some dude who comes to the counter to order chicken mcnuggets and needs to be treated fairly…this firearms training class is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT! (LOADED GUNS, GLENN!)
Report Post »TriforcePlayer
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:59pmDitto
Report Post »madasblazes
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 6:07pmDitto, too!
Report Post »The Scarecrow
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 7:41pmYer right!!!
Report Post »Teufel Hunden
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:19amI might be mistaken, but, doesn’t a private business have the right to refuse service to who they want? It’s none of Becks business.
Report Post »trench99
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:18amSorry Glenn, no such thing as a “moderate muslim”. Kudos to Keller! The so called moderates sit and watch silently as our men & dragged through their streets, whilst their brethern cheer, they silently watch as women are killed & raped, they silently watch while children are strapped with explosives. Their silence is deafening! Perhaps they are silently watching for their signal. No matter, the basis of their religion is hatred, ridicule, and violence, to that there is no such thing as “moderate”.
Report Post »PATRIOTGRUNT
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:50am@TRENCH99 : Right on . Agree 100%. I have no idea where Beck gets off on this issue . Hey Beck start your own gun training classes and you can teach the “ moderate ” muslims to kill you .Moron!! MLK give me a break. WTF is happening to you Glenn?.
Report Post »whatthecrazy
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 3:15pmI agree with you guys Beck needs to get a grip on this MLK thingy it does not apply to muslims who have said we the infidels must die,what the hec is he thinking……moderate muslims my A$$ oh and ROSIE you need to carry your muslim loving butt to another country……………………………
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 7:44pmJust because Beck has been right on several issues, like Gold, Food, Left Wing Neurosis, and the Lie of the Left; by no means validates his “opinion” on this matter. He could not be more wrong on this issue. I do not by from Muslim owned stores of any kind. I will buy from Hindus, or anyone else. Anyone else, that is; that does not worship a God that demands my death, or slavery to exist. That is a direct threat to my life. I will not give them one cent of my money, no matter how convenient it would be; and believe me I have to go far to find places that are not bivouacked with these evil people. I will not work for them either. I don‘t need my enemy’s money. Why should I act like I’m cool with someone hating me; you hate me, I hate your ass back, even harder.
Report Post »CowOfSense
Posted on January 7, 2012 at 5:56pmI know this is old news, but still…
Though there are plenty others that make sense, I chose to reply to you and PG’s comments because they sum things up so well. I hope it will not be too late by the time the PC idiots and those they have fooled see the truth. The one and ONLY goal of Islam is to kill or convert every single person on the planet to their backward, savage religion. Period. “Moderate” muslims are the ones who just won’t take any actions until Islam has the upper hand. There is no bigger threat to peace and our way of life than Islam. Is everyone born a Muslim a bad person? Certainly not. Is everyone who follows the Quran and Islam a potential threat? Absolutely.
As far as what has happened to Beck… Probably the same thing that has happened to just about everyone in the major media. He dares not speak the truth about Islam for fear of reprisal. Islam has shown its willingness to attack anyone who speaks the truth or says anything that is not in support of their so called faith. Look at what is happening in the UK and all over Europe to see what it is going to be like here if we don’t start standing up against this threat.
Mr. Keller did just that. and though he never intended it to get out as far as it did, once it had, suddenly he is being attacked BY HIS OWN PEOPLE because we dare not let anything slide that might hurt the feelings of OUR ENEMY. Never mind Beck, what has happened to you AMERICA?
Report Post »proantisocialist
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:18amI think glenn read this one wrong…I think what the guy was saying is he will not train muslums to kill him…And what i take from that is he cant do a background check on every muslim that wants to get training..and being America the muslims dont have to go to his gun classes…and by rights he can refuse service to anyone he might see as a danger to society or to his business….
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:16amAs a fellow Firearm Instructor I understand where he is coming from. Vicarious liability is always a focal point for instructors. If you train someone and they go off and do something crazy, you WILL find yourself in court. It‘s my license and I’m the only one responsible for it. There have been folks that I’ve turned away from my class for different reasons. We don’t need to teach criminals to be better shots than the police.
Report Post »sta
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:23pmWait a minute JLGunner! Are we allowed to make sense on this issue? Afterall, unintended consequences are imaginary, aren’t they? ;-)
Report Post »encinom
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:53pmSo I guess you don’t train Christians? I mean it is right winger christians that murder doctors in church.
Report Post »Al J Zira
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:54pm@encinom: Yep! Occasionally you’ll have a right wing Christian kill an abortion doctor and it called murder. But then again you have abortion doctors killing babies every day and calling it a right to choose. The only difference I see is that we murder unborn babies at a rate of 1.2 million every year. And that rate is down from 1.6 million. But you go ahead and sensationalize a doctor who gets killed. Twit!
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 2:12pmEncinom I train those fine Americans that demand their Second Amendment rights that supports their God given right of self defense. They believe in personal responsibility and accountability. They don’t rely on a 9-1-1 call and a seven minute response time to guarantee their safety. It’s funny to see you try to chime in on something you know nothing about.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 3:25pm@JLGunner
Report Post »But you avoid the question, do you turn away right wing, fundie Christians, since that is the group most lkely to murder doctors and assault others exercising their Consitutional rights or are you a bigot?
ig8e8
Posted on November 1, 2011 at 12:15pmOh right, because attempts to kill doctors are being stopped as often as muslim terrorist acts? Only in the La La Land called the liberal mind.
Lets equivocate two things that are not equal! Leave it to a lib…
“encinom Posted on October 31, 2011 at 3:25pm
Report Post »@JLGunner
But you avoid the question, do you turn away right wing, fundie Christians, since that is the group most lkely to murder doctors and assault others exercising their Consitutional rights or are you a bigot?”
timej31
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:14amI love the ad and support it. It speaks to me and my neighbors for now. That means while we‘re still the majority at the moment but in 10 years we’ll be having to step over these people while they pray around us and holding sharia court in garages.
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:13amMaybe if some flight instructors back in 2001 had this opinion, there might be a couple more buildings in New York.
Report Post »Tickdog
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:12amgood for him.. i wouldn’t teach them either!
Report Post »teammommy
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:11amCome on Glenn! This guy is doing what we all shouldbe doing. Sorry he doesnt have time enough to vet his clients, so he has to go by how the person presents himself. I support this guy 100% and his courage to call a spade a spade. Its called Common Sense…remember that is what you wrote about???
Report Post »dogpatch65
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:09amBut the real question is: Does Beck think Keller should lose his certification?
Report Post »http://markamerica.com/2011/10/29/now-theyre-going-after-crockett-keller/
encinom
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:08amI guess Beck doesn’t know about the bigots and racists that populate his “news” site the Blaze.
Report Post »timej31
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:15amHow about the queers and socialist on huffintontoast?
Report Post »mtnclimberjim
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:19amThis guy has the FREEDOM to train who he sees fit to train. Same with our military. Things need to change in the USA. Your opinion is your freedom. If you don’t like what Keller is doing then go train the enemy yourself, Jackass!!
Report Post »DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:19amIt’s a private business. He can serve whomever he chooses. I don’t see you up in arms (pun intended) over the Toys R Us stores that post a signs on the doors stating you can’t bring in firearms. That is a right… taking a class is not a right.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:20amBecks who has done nothing but made the fool’s of his followers paranoid about the other, is now shocked about the bitter harvest.
Report Post »RichNGadsden
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:32amENCINOM, I have to agree with you this time. There are some really flaky racist bigots that post here. You sir are proof that just anybody with a computer can enter this site and spew such BS. Many of the obviously bigoted, racist comments that I have read here are so flaky that they remind me of the left wing posers displaying racist placards while sneaking into Tea Party Rallys to get in front of the three letter news cameras. Oh yeah, BSNBC is more than three letters, so pardon me. Others really strike me as sarcastic, but I will certainly not claim that all here are innocent. Like I mentioned above, anybody can enter this site. As far as the anti-Semitic Jew hating crowd, Nazi organizations, as well as other hate groups are currently speaking out in support of the OWS misguided crowd. So, where do you fall with these groups?
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:47amCan you be more specific on the racist label. I would hate to interact with someone displaying ignorance and extreme malfeasance.
Report Post »Obama_Sham
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:52pmencinom
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:08am
“I guess Beck doesn’t know about the bigots and racists that populate his “news” site the Blaze.”
He obviously doesn’t know about the idiots…
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:24pmI’m with you on this one EN.
Report Post »obamabirthcertificate.net
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:27pmGlenn ignores many truths!
Obama’s birth certificate alleges “where” he was born and his parent’s citizenship “when” he was born. These equally important “facts” are now beyond Obama’s ability to refute, alter or hide! Unless fake, his Kenyan father inescapably precludes his Constitutional eligibility as a natural born citizen by not being born within US jurisdiction to TWO US citizen parents.
Candidates for President, each having “legal standing” are therefore obligated to sue Obama, Pelosi and the DNC for fraud and failure to qualify as a natural born citizen, or be dismissed as untrustworthy!
Constitution, Art. 2, Sec. 1, “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible … .”
Exempting a “citizen” from being a “natural born citizen” proves they aren’t equal, or no exemption was needed. Being not less than nor equal, a NBC must be more than the minimum requisite for citizenship then, which was US birth to a US citizen parent. Only US birth to US citizen parents (plural) is greater, thus defining a natural born citizen.
The Supreme Court agreed in Minor v. Happersett, 1874. “The Court held that Minor was a member of the “class” of persons who were natural born citizens. They defined this class as those born in the US to “parents” (plural) who were citizens.” Leo Donofrio, JD.
http://www.ObamaBirthCertificate.net
Report Post »obamabirthcertificate.net
Posted on October 31, 2011 at 6:18pm@CH
In U.S. v Wong Kim Ark, 1898, the court simply ruled that Wong Kim Ark was a citizen. “Since Wong Kim Ark didn’t fit into the class of natural-born citizens as defined by Minor, the Court looked to the 14th Amendment to grant him US citizenship.” Leo Donofrio, JD.
Amendment 14, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, … .“ Being ”subject to the jurisdiction” matters.
“Citizenship wasn’t acquired by birth on US soil prior to the 1965 Immigration Act, considered by many to be a misinterpretation of the 14th amendment and contrary to the original intent of providing emancipated slaves who, without a US citizen parent even if born on US soil, had no other means of acquiring citizenship. The 14th amendment affects only citizenship, not a natural born citizen: one born on US soil to US citizen parents (plural)”. [1]
Representative John Bingham, framer of the 14th Amendment, speaking before The US House of Representatives, clearly agreed.
“I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291, March 9, 1866)
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Posted on October 31, 2011 at 6:52pmObamabirhcertificate.net
When referencing Minor vs Happersett you’re referencing a case involving suffrage, not citizenship.
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Women in Missouri were not allowed to vote because they were not considered voters.
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Posted on October 31, 2011 at 8:09pmgreat comeback timej. sounds like you like dem queers a little too much. hey your lifestyle is ok with me. just make sure the little boys are over 18.
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Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:34pm@ Cat
Thank you for your comment.
The Supreme Court in Minor vs Happersett, 1874, while considering the variables affecting Minor’s vote, took Minor’s citizenship into account and in so doing determined that she was a natural born citizen. The issues are directly related rather than mutually exclusive; nor is it prohibited but in fact, perfectly acceptable for the court to provide an opinion on both.
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