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Beck Explains the Difference Between the Left & Right — One Blesses the Flag, the Other Burns It

During his Wednesday morning radio broadcast, Glenn Beck juxtaposed two different stories that have made recent headlines — each of which clearly illustrate the difference between how the Left and the Right view the world, and America in particular.

The first example, featured on The Blaze, detailed how first through fifth grade New York City school students were heckled while singing “God Bless the U.S.A.“ by adults who shouted ”burn in hell!” The second example Beck delved into happened in Oakland, California, where people held an American flag burning while singing “America, F—k you.”

Beck then walked listeners through American history as it relates to the way each side of the political spectrum conduct themselves today:

Comments (70)

  • rfycom
    Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:04am

    Here is where I have a big problem with Beck and many others. He is saying the left. As in all people on the left. We all know not all left wing people feel this way. These are extremists, just like the right has extremist. Let’s call these people left extremist and right extremists and not try to lump the whole party into it. WORDS matter.

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  • jvrat
    Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:56am

    so many think reagan was great -not even close ! Duf this actor became better after being ‘ Guided’. R’topic is twisted because of party influence. not too long ago Used to be much simpler-Well to do aristocrats > REPUBLICANS. Working man >Democrats. Hijacked parties. So he really was – reagan union buster ‘while lame libs now influence over dem party. More than ever the personal daily dilemma broadens party lines.unions used to be needed. Clearly many today Wish they were republicans are foolish to even think so and democrats could be more without sided lame burdens. It’s have and have not that drive economy

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  • soybomb315
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:56pm

    Back in the day, Glenn used to tell us that there was no such thing as ‘left’ versus ‘right’ and that it was really about progressivism versus small government. What is all this about? Go back to your foundations – read 5,000 Year Leap again

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  • freedomrider
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:44pm

    There really is astark choice in November: Left blatent disregard of constitution, culture of corruption, set back race relations 10 years, treason, economic terrorism ,occupy you name it . Then you have the right Conservative,want balance budget, strong faith,support Isreal hole heartedly,moral, good parents ,proud to be hard working and not create welfare state. Clear choice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:58pm

      “want” balance budget versus balancing budget….Two separate things

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  • pudssweetie
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:24pm

    Let me see if I can explain this in plain English to the trolls. There are rhino’s in both partys and neither party is perfect. We also have people as well as Politicians who are either extreme left of center or extreme right of center and are the ones who Glenn speaks of. These are the people who have no problems shouting down children who are just singing a Patriotic song and will go to extremes to shut down their Freedom of Speech. These are children, not adults but is sad to see when these Children are behaving better than the adults are. This is as bad as protesters showing up at a Special Olympic Ceremony shouting down to those who are Special Needs, yet the ones who have Special Needs acted better and had more respect than those who protested the event. Burning the Flag is not only disrespectful but it also disrespects all those who fought and died defending that Flag. If you trolls think this is acceptable behavior to get a message out then you are not part of the solution but part of the problem.

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    • rfycom
      Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:07am

      I like you,

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    • saranda
      Posted on June 21, 2012 at 3:29pm

      @pudssweetie – you are clear. Unfortunately gb has decided it is more profitable to be vague and condemn the entire left. He is guilty of adding to this huge polarization for his own benefit and that is one reason I cannot take him seriously. This site has become a sideshow with gb as the clown (his word) and I come here for the entertainment value more than anything. GB has made himself irrelevant but he cares not as long as the cheques keep rolling in. Good on you GB for your financial success, you have sold your soul however.

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  • junior1971
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:43pm

    Let me break this down for you Glenn. You already know this but you refuse to share. It is not right-left, it is logic-emotion. Logic comes from patience and rational thought that only emerges through the process of critical evaluation. Emotional thought comes from the initial reactionary response acted upon without critical evaluation. We are all guilt of both at any given time. We are all liberal conservatives.

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    • jzs
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 9:40pm

      I only disagree with Beck with sadness and chagrin. Although he is a modern day religious Profit, he’s wrong on this one.

      The American flag, the stars and bars, represents all Americans, not just the wealthy like Glenn. The flag also represents people like you too, people who don’t make millionairs of dollars, who might have relatives who couldn’t survive without social security and Medicare and you may even have relatives who have survived only because our country was willing to support and help you them get thought the bad times. I wonder how your parents, or grandparents would be doing without Social Security and Medicare? Were they just lazy bums who should now be learning the lesson to save enough to live 20 years after they retire? Seriously, your relatives were too stupid and shortsighted to save enough to live for a couple of decades with no income and without Social Security? Of course, because you’re voting Republican, YOU will save enough money to live for 20 years on your savings after you can’t work. Cause you’re really smart.

      The difference in Democrats and Republicans? Here ya go:

      “Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute. Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and needy.” – Proverbs 31:8-9

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 9:48pm

      JZS – The left wingers at OWS burn the flag and want to establish a Marxist dictatorship where everybody is forced to provide for society’s needs in life from cradle to grave.

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    • SpeckChaser
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:03pm

      JZS

      A wise old man once told me how he viewed the difference between republicans and democrats. His example was if you were in the middle of a lake and and needed help, a republican would throw a rope half way to you, expect you to swim halfway to the rope, then pull you to shore.

      A democrat would throw you twice a much rope as you needed then would lay the rope down on the ground and walk away.

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    • brother_ed
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:44pm

      @JZS

      “…defend the rights of the poor and needy.” – Proverbs 31:8-9″

      ‘Defending’ the rights of the poor is different than ‘creating’ rights for the poor.

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    • pudssweetie
      Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:22am

      @JZS,
      Thank you for calling my Parents and Grandparents stupid. I think you are the one who is stupid for making the comment you did. My Grandparents survived just fine without getting any hand outs from the Government. They did not want SS, but was forced to get it and what they did get was little and really did not need it. My Grandparents always paid in cash for their medical needs and did not need Medicare forced onto them. My Parents planed way ahead as well and never planned on using SS or Medicare as their only retirement option. They worked hard and saved up money even though my Dad did get a decent pension he still planned ahead and built up a nice nest egg for him and my Mom. The point is people can and have survived without the intrusion of our Government.
      As for your little Bible Verse, if you look again, it means We The People are the ones who should be helping thise who are less fortunate, not the Government.

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  • plastinoid
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:42pm

    WOW!………can you feel the intense fear on the Proggressive Left in their comments here? If they are so confident that they are the majority, and that most Americans feel the same as they do, why do they bother to troll Conservative sites? ………….Because they know that the Evil plans that have been slowly put into place over the last 100 years are in jeapordy of being removed by the real majority. After Obama is removed from office in November, real Americans will return our country back to a god fearing, Constitution loving, Shining city on the hill that it once was…………They are very afraid, and they should be, because they have exposed themselves as to who they truely are……….See you at the voteing booth November 6th ;)

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    • anomnomnommm
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:55pm

      It is important to get information from all types of venues. Nothing is gained from speaking with people who only agree with you. Political discourse works through the exchange of ideas. You should be open to people who are interested in honest, open, and informed political action. I hope that everyone here is a responsible enough American to want to be informed about all of their countryman’s beliefs.

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    • brother_ed
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:54pm

      @ANOMNOMNOMMM

      I often find that people who want me to ‘listen to someone with a different point of view” don‘t think I’m listening unless I agree with their argument.

      I have heard from those who promote alternative life styles; I am not convinced.

      I have from heard those who are for gun control; I am not convinced.

      I have from heard those who say socialism is great; I am not convinced.

      I have heard from those who want more government; I am not interested.

      Just because I listen politely doesn’t mean I accept their positions.

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    • anomnomnommm
      Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:57am

      @Brother_Ed

      My comment had nothing to do with agreement or not. It was aimed at the user criticizing people of other views who were reading the site and contributing their views as well. If you have ruled out all other information sources other than those which you agree with you are free to do so.

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  • anomnomnommm
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:28pm

    Personal politics aside, this type of “us vs. them” mentality and rhetoric is irresponsible. The political spectrum is not black and white, nor is it even one dimensional. Calling people who do not hold your safe beliefs “enemies” gets ratings and riles people up emotionally, but will never get anyone closer to any real solutions.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:41pm

      Don’t shoot the messenger (in this case it’s Glenn Beck).

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    • thunersaurus
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 9:24pm

      Wisdom. I’m personally a pretty liberal guy. All I refer to when I say that, is my lifestyle choice. I think that that’s what most Americans mean when they use the words liberal and conservative. When we fight each other over whether or not we’re liberal or conservative… we’re fighting each other over lifestyle choice. That’s pure stupidity. Sure there are idiots out there, ALL over the place. But you have to take them as just that. Idiots… We, as individuals, need to stop assuming so much about people and dividing OURSELVES, and start taking each other at individual value. Btw, just because I say “liberal”, doesn‘t mean I’m a democrat. I’m actually a proud anarcho-capitalist.

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  • beckyspatflaveredstew
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:07pm

    When considering We the People, Beck is right. The problem is He equates Us with the political parties, both of the mainstream accepted ones that is, and they are on the same path. We the People are forced to look outside the mainstream, for at least a thread of Libertymindedness.

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  • LeaveMeBe
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:03pm

    The last 2 minutes of this is hypocrisy/Idiocracy. “It’s got electrolytes, it’s what plants crave”. Beck would suggest he is on the side of… “change” haha!! Typical moral progressive. His side would “change” or “fix” the country and any opposition would want to destroy the country… a little white washy to me, and with hint of scare tactics. Me thinks Beck fancies himself a politician.

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    • Brother Winston Smith
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:09pm

      Show, don’t tell…
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vw2CrY9Igs

      …and lest we’re misidentifying the cast…
      Red Brawndo = republicans
      Blue Brawndo = democrats
      Water = liberty
      The “Roundtable” = Limbaugh, Maddow, Beck, Ed, Hannity, Mitchell, Levin, Garofalo… and
      Luke Wilson’s character = Ron Paul

      “The plants aren’t growing, so I‘m pretty sure that the Brawndo’s not working… now I’m no botanist, but I do know… that if you put WATER on plants… they grow.”

      NEVER BEFORE has a 60 second movie clip so appropriately NAILED the moment we are living.

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  • rickc34
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:51pm

    Reading the blogs is sad to see how divided a nation we have become. You are this and he is that. The nation. Seems so different and angry compared to the one I grew up in and raised my children but that nation is gone a new one full of hate and anger. Obama and the other racist have caused a wound that will not heal. You have those that hate Christian others that hate atheist other that hates Mormons. I thought this was America but I grow weary of all this trash talk … bend your neck and put on your yoke.. we are a nation divided . One day the darkness will come and then judgement for all.

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  • mbriz
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:36pm

    There becky goes again, spending hate, and division. I put the Red, White, and Blue, and state flag out every morning, and bring them in every night, folded. beck opens his mouth and shows the fool he truly is. Great Christian,or what ever morons are, err, Mormons.Way to love thy neighbor.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:12pm

      The truth hurts. And love thy neighbor means telling the truth.

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    • Dejavu
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 9:56pm

      You seem to profess to be the arbiter of how one should go about loving thy neighbor. Look in the mirror before you spew your own hate.

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  • ScienceIsNotEvil
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:14pm

    Must be nice to be able to divide everyone into two neat little categories…

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    • Meyvn
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:26pm

      It’s natural. We live in a digital world. Good, Evil, Ones, and Zeros.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:15pm

      The truth hurts. You lefties want to turn American into a Marxist craphole.

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    • thunersaurus
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 9:12pm

      It’s easy! You can do it too. All you have to do is not question the religion you were brought up with, or any “authoritative figures” in your life.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 9:50pm

      Thunersaurus – Those who didn’t grow up with an authoritative figure are much more likely to commit crimes and support a cradle to grave welfare state.

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    • thunersaurus
      Posted on June 21, 2012 at 4:18pm

      @Git-R-Done: False. Those that grow up without a PARENTAL figure are much more likely to develop psychopathy, commit crimes, and support a cradle to grave welfare state. Parental does not necessarily imply authoritative, because authoritative implies that a person knows everything and therefore should be TRUSTED, rather than questioned. In other words, everything this figure says is gold, in other words don’t teach how to think, instead teach what to think. Which is why our country, imo, is pretty screwy. “Parental” simply means caretaker.

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  • justangry
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:14pm

    Ah, you can’t pick a few events here and there and apply it to everyone. Most lefties I know are lefties because they’re compassionate and naive. They love America as much as we do. Besides, right vs. left is relative. Each of us have our own definitions. I think most of you all are moderate progressives. The big goverment social progressives think I‘m a liberal because I don’t think the federal government should be policing vice, etc.

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  • SocialistSlayer
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:13pm

    It’s okay – If Obama is re-elected he will shut these Liberals up. Freedom of Speech is not one of his priorities.

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    • AUsername
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:29pm

      Read the book of Mormon they believe in communism.

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    • justangry
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:30pm

      Nor any of the R’s who voted for HR 347.

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    • justangry
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:01pm

      Man, we agree on a lot, but gotta say over the past couple of days I’ve seen some things said about Mormons, I wish I didn’t see coming from my side. I mean, you’re entitled to believe anything you want, but think it makes us look worse than we’re already preceived to be. Besides there’s a lot of cool Mormons on here.

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    • Claudius
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:37pm

      @ausername

      Mormons don’t believe in communism. Communism is where the government forces a distribution of wealth. The Book of Mormon’s only related reference to your post is 3 Nephi 26:19

      19 And they taught, and did minister one to another; and they had all things common among them, every man dealing justly, one with another.

      It’s not communism when it is voluntary and one can leave at any time. Communism is evil because it takes away man’s free agency

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  • AUsername
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:11pm

    Gary Johnson 2012, Democrips and Rebloodlicans are the peoples enemy.

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  • AUsername
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:09pm

    Rebloodlicans and Democrips that is the difference.

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    • thunersaurus
      Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:54pm

      only an extremely out of touch nutcase thinks Rmoney is normal.

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    • thunersaurus
      Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:28pm

      Sorry. Meant to post below. :p can’t erase, but I’m sure you agree.

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  • Brother Winston Smith
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:05pm

    Differences:
    Beck-SUPPORTED Mitt Romney – LEFTIST
    Beck-REJECTED Ron Paul – CONSERVATIVE

    Dream Amnesty?
    Romney – Y, Obama – Y, Paul – N

    Executive Ordered sodomite/lesbian “marriage?”
    Romney – Y, Obama – Y, Paul – N

    Subsidized student loans:
    Romney – Y, Obama – Y, Paul – N

    BAILED-OUT welfare queens as leading “contributors”?
    Romney – Y, Obama – Y, Paul – N

    Support TARP?
    Romney – Y, Obama – Y, Paul – N

    Support the “Patriot” Act?
    Romney – Y, Obama – Y, Paul – N

    Support gun-grabbing?
    Romney – Y, Obama – Y, Paul – N

    Supports abortion (when politically advantageous)?
    Romney – Y, Obama – Y, Paul – N

    State-funded abortion?
    Romney – Y, Obama – Y, Paul – N

    Chickenhawking?
    Romney – Y, Obama – Y, Paul – N

    Support NDAA?
    Romney – Y, Obama – Y, Paul – N

    Mandated purchase of healthcare?
    Romney – Y, Obama – Y, Paul – N

    Support PRIVATE Federal Reserve?
    Romney – Y, Obama – Y, Paul – N

    REJECTION of the Enumerated Powers?
    Romney – Y, Obama – Y, Paul – N

    REJECTION of the 10th?
    Romney – Y, Obama – Y, Paul – N

    LEFTIST judges?
    Romney – Y, Obama – Y, Paul – N

    CLEAR differences.

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    • SocialistSlayer
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:10pm

      Paul – Nutcase
      Romney – Normal

      Paul – Unelectable
      Romney – Next President

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    • AUsername
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:28pm

      he aint normal hes a racist mormon national socialist.

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  • SickAndTired
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:05pm

    I love tuning in to see what Obama’s minions are saying here in attempt to rile up the audience. They’re funny…..and unimportant.

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  • Brother Winston Smith
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:03pm

    I… still don’t get it… where’s the difference between the “right” (leftist republican) and “left” (leftist democrat)…

    Undeclared nation-building
    Patriot Act
    DHS
    TSA
    NDAA
    CISPA
    TARP/Bailouts/Stimulus
    PRIVATE Federal Reserve
    Croni-capitalism
    Amnesty
    Perpetual amnesty (non-enforcement)
    NAFTA
    Assassinating Americans without Due Process
    No transparency
    “War on Drugs”
    “War on Terror”
    “War on Poverty”
    Rejection of the Enumerated Powers
    Rejection of the 4th, 5th, 9th, 10th, 13th, Amendments
    Socialized medicine
    Socialized education
    Socialized retirement
    Socialized housing
    Socialized job creation
    Socialized food
    Socialized child care
    Subsidized unemployment
    Mangling “Interstate Commerce”
    Mangling the “Supremacy Clause”
    Mangling “Necessary and Proper”
    Mangling “General Welfare”

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  • TROLLMONGER
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:51pm

    The right wingers want christian cross in place of the 50 stars. They want a theocracy!

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    • unwine99
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:08pm

      Its true — only their theocracy though, nobody elses lol

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:11pm

      Don’t forget how many on the right place the flage of the southern racists and traitors, the Stars and Bars in place of the Stars and Stripes.

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    • SocialistSlayer
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:15pm

      And if Liberals get their way there will be a Swastika on the flag! You Fascist / Communists!

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    • Meyvn
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:29pm

      Wrong. Or perhaps I am not a “right-winger”. I look forward to a Monarchy with Yeshua HaMashiach on His throne.

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    • DIR
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:45pm

      @TROLLMONGER: “The right wingers want christian cross in place of the 50 stars!”

      Really! This country has been made up primarily of christians since its founding. If christians wanted to replace the 50 stars with a cross it would have happened a long time ago. On the other hand it appears that you and your ilk want to replace the 50 stars with a hammer and sickle along with everything else that goes with it. Glenn just showed what the camera picked up when filming average idiots on the left. Rather revealing!!!!! Your retort is nothing more a cheesy magic trick, a slight of hand: divert attention from Glenns facts with your rediculous screed. Bad magic, way to obvious.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:39pm

      The left wingers want the hammer and sickle to be the global flag and have us be a one world Marxist dictatorship.

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  • unwine99
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:50pm

    Beck is a pretentious, wannabe intellectual. I read books and I know everything blah blah blah blah……………………..

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    • SocialistSlayer
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:12pm

      I’m sorry you are unable to read sir but no need to badmouth Beck! Blame the Liberal Education system!

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    • Dejavu
      Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:11am

      Whiney99, you‘re just jealous that you don’t know how to read. Ask your mommy to read to you and you can look at the pictures while you’re picking your sniveling little nose.

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  • Micah.Stone
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:46pm

    What’s the Difference Between a Conservative and a Lunatic-Left Socialist Extremist?
    If a conservative sees an American flag, his heart swells with pride.
    If a d-cRAT socialist sees an American flag, he feels shame, embarrassment and disgust.

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    • Brother Winston Smith
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 6:07pm

      Too bad BOTH “feels shame, embarrassment and disgust” about our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

      Ron Paul 2012! NO EXCUSES!

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    • socialism.rocks
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 7:44pm

      the founders invented liberalism progressivism and socialism…

      And they did kill conservatives they were traitors rarw they ran them out of the country burned their buisiness and houses down…

      thats what they did way back-in 1776

      And they also hated dominionist christians—

      the founders loathed conservativism
      the puritans fled from it-
      the pilgrims hated it-
      america was founded as a socialist country..

      Reagan stole his city on the hill speech from the puritans- which were socialists..

      but you all are losers who are going to get yours soon

      conservatives are the enemy of the republic…

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:14pm

      Socialism.sucks – The Founders loved capitalism, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, right to bare arms, and private property rights while you lefties hate all of those things. So don’t pretend that you have anything in common with the Founding Fathers.

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    • RealLiibertarian
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 10:23pm

      Git-R-done- about the only thing out of that list that the conservatives love is capitalism. They hate freedom of speech, proven by the fact that they want to restrict any expression that they disagree with (see the original posts on this thread). They hate freedom of religion and don’t want to acknowledge or show respect for anything but their own hard line Christianity. Bearing arms is something that they claim to love, but are more than willing to restrict it to people that are of the same mind as they are. And they will not hesitate to take private property and give it to corporations, if there is money to be made from it. You can complain about the left all you want, and I would agree with you, but don’t get any ideas that the right is any bettter, or more in favor of freedom. Look at all the assaults of the 4th Amendment being pushed by the conservatives in their zeal to “protect us”.

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    • thunersaurus
      Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:05pm

      Right on to Brother Winston Smith and Reallibertarian. The lesser of two evils is still moving the country down the path of evil, just slightly slower than the greater of two evils. Not something to be proud of. And the pledge of allegiance is a socialist idea! How about that. Bet you didn’t know that, did you?

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    • thunersaurus
      Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:11pm

      @RealLibertarian: Oh yeah! And about the conservatives loving capitalism, that’s barely even true. They love the crony/corporate side of it, but hate the pure, voluntary, mutually beneficial side of capitalism that is between two parties.

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  • GIRTHMAN
    Posted on June 20, 2012 at 5:34pm

    America is hell now and we are burning !!!

    I wonder what New zealand is like ?

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:18pm

      I’ll let you know – planning a trip out there this winter

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