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Beck & Rabbi Lapin Show Why You Should Care About ‘Baal’ & Rising Secular Fundamentalism

Glenn Beck & Rabbi Daniel Lapin Discuss Baal & Secular Fundamentalism | GBTVOn Thursday evening, Glenn Beck teamed up with Rabbi Daniel Lapin to explore the rise of secular fundamentalism.

During their discussion, they tackled the elements comprising this growing phenomenon and explored how its expansion and prominence is taking form in contemporary society. Due to the importance of the subject, GBTV has made the entire, five-part interview available free-of-charge (watch it, below).

In Part I, Beck and Lapin discuss the historical nature of Baal and the vast cultural and societal changes that we’ve seen here in America over the past few decades. If you’re unfamiliar with the concept of Baal, Lapin provides a very pointed definition (this quote is present in Part II of their discussion):

“Think of it as spiritual gravity. It is that which tugs our better natures downwards — to everything that is a yielding to bodily appetites, a yielding to darkness, a yielding to hopelessness and pessimism, a yielding to a sense of shortage and misery. All of these things that are so easily capable of overwhelming us as human beings as we struggle to remain encouraged and bright and filled with faith. That is the tension that exists within our hearts.”

In a world dominated by negative media messages, false idols and temptations, it is this concept of Baal — this “spiritual warfare” — that holds the potential to prevent human beings from connecting with God and from being the fulfilled individuals God would like them to be.

“The dark and depraved side of human nature is as evident today in the United States of America and in the most sophisticated corners of America — perhaps specifically there,” Lapin explained. Here’s the first part of the discussion:

Below, watch Part II, during which Lapin sets up the premise, history and the Biblical mentions of the Baal. Additionally, he further explains this gravitational force that purportedly exists within the hearts of mankind:

In Part III, Beck proclaims, “The forces of Baal are just as strong now as they were 3,000 years ago.” In this section of the interview, Lapin and Beck take on the contemporary presence of and “the terrifying, seductive power” of the Baal. They mention this spiritual force and its involvement in Occupy Wall Street, Woodstock and other moral conundrums:

The Baal’s appeal toward violence is tackled in Part IV, among other issues, as Beck and Lapin continued their discussion about the phenomenon’s contemporary impact:

“The only hope for our economy, for our military security, for our cultural viability, for a civil society — the only hope for all of these things — is a revival of fervent, committed, evangelical Christianity,” Lapin concludes in Part V:

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  • stockpicker
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:30am

    This is one of Glenn’s better programs. The answer though is for each to turn away from sin.

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  • Evil_Conservative
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:20am

    I knew it! another Baal clone! quick call SG1!

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 11:56am

      “Let’s play Baal”

      I knew there was a conspiracy forming, even sports has been pushing evil…

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    • mzk1
      Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:09pm

      I can’t believe people have been completely missing the point. Of course he isn‘t saying Ba’al exists. Remeber, he is Jewish, we‘re the guys who’ve been claiming for 4000 years that the world has only one Force. He is referring to a human construct.

      If you prefer, think to the Id. Same idea. The id is important, and has its place, but if it rules you, we have chaos. Even following one’s ego leads to trouble.

      The one thing that probably bugs you is the Jewish idea that a society that encourages people to do whatever they like in victimless ways, will end up with people hurting each other. That is why “love your neighbor as yourself” is smack in the middle of Levtitcus.

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    • Wolf
      Posted on February 4, 2012 at 8:02pm

      MZK- if Baal doen’t exist, then why would God tell us to not worship and sacrifice to him? Baal is alive and well, and you’ll be able to see some of his most ardent worshippers in front of the screens this week end.

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  • Leperus
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:18am

    I wonder if people at GBTV are constantly bugging SE Cupp to “get right with the lord” and “come to church with me” and such. That must get really old.

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    • ldaopines
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:22am

      What gets old is your wondering…

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    • mzk1
      Posted on February 4, 2012 at 3:31pm

      The concept works even if you aren’t religious. As I said, think of the Id. They probably just kid each other.

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  • ldaopines
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:17am

    As Rabbi Lapkin demonstrated, fundamental Secularism has all the earmarks of “religion”. Further, atheists are looking at things like temples/cathedrals and “military chaplains”. I’d like to know whether any of those things are tax exempt or cost taxpayer money. Further, I think that evidence is building that Secularism IS a religion. As such, I think we should go to court when the government makes efforts to supplant other religions with its depravity/nothingness. If a Christmas tree is removed because it “offends” secularists, then “art” with excrement on a cross should be removed because it “offends” Christians. In the past, Secularist depravity has been called “Free Speech”.

    But when government imposes homosexuality/abortion on Christian churches and evolution in our schools, it is truly a case of government establishing the Secularist religion WHICH IT IS PROHIBITED FROM DOING.

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    • copatriots
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:31am

      I’m envisioning the “utopia” atheists think would exist banning anything Judeo-Christian. The “Lord of the Flies” and the Occupy chaos are a great examples. Left to our “own human morality” (a contradiction of terms if ever one existed) the world would be an even uglier place as well as no standard could possibly exist. Who sets the standard on which morality we would follow?

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    • ldaopines
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 12:30pm

      CoPatriot, true individual freedom can’t exist without fairly strong shared values and morals. Decency, compassion, truthfulness, honesty, etc. can’t be legislated, yet these are critical to the healthy functioning of society. Religion, whether you believe in a Supreme Being or not, serves to keep these important values/morals before us.

      What Libertarians posting here don’t get, is that true individual liberty depends upon a society that is able to support it. We are losing that with rising Secularism, and Glenn is bold to stress it at the risk of losing some of his audience with “religious talk”. I haven’t been to church in ages, but I definitely see the HUGE role religion has played in enabling our free society and strengthening our common bonds as Americans. Glenn is not off base. We are simply not used to discussing and/or understanding the dynamics here.

      Progressives want a godless (religion free) “feel good” society, where there are no values or morals. This is our decline, and the precursor to the decline of individual liberty. Government will have to step in and “control” our worsening natures. Libertarians should care. Please get beyond your distaste for religion being part of the discussion because it’s relevant and Glenn sees it.

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  • Leperus
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:14am

    So I guess being a non-religious lover of freedom and liberty is out of the question. Way to alienate people.

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    • NOTAMUSHROOM
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:18am

      I don’t think so. It’s just the truth. Take it or leave it. Get it?

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    • Texas.7
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:19am

      We want your freedom too. :)

      The Destroyer is the one who takes freedom from mankind. Even if you are not a believer, Jesus teaches us to desire freedom from all that would enslaves us in the world. We are on the same side here, opposing oppression. But discussions about why each of us feels this way shouldn’t upset anyone. It may in fact help you understand why Christianity is a friend to all who seek freedom.

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    • NOTAMUSHROOM
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:23am

      Well said, Texas. Well said.

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:33am

      @Leperus
      Why is it when I mention something about my beliefs about an intelligent first cause for everything, I can generally expect a bombardment of insults and attacks from atheists? Nobody here has attacked you. You really sound oversensitive about the subject for some reason.

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    • Leperus
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:38am

      It doesn’t upset me, but I do get wary when people say things like “The ONLY way to fix our problems is for everyone to return to evangelical Christianity”. Evangelical Christianity has a really agressive recruitment policy, and I don’t much care for that. Also I don’t agree with many of their ideas. So when someone talks about returning our society to that, yes, it makes me nervous.

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    • Rip Curly
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:51am

      The will to believe in god is the will to be a slave. It is left over from our bronze age past.

      The bible is bronze age psychobabble written by half starved, hallucinating hermits and compiled by an emperor in order for his world government to use this new religious ferver to his advantage.

      Religion is ruining our world. Fortunately, it is being abandoned at a fairly good clip.

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    • Texas.7
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:52am

      I don’t think anyone here is promoting a theocracy under Christ. Christianity, by definition, requires that people come to Him without coercion, but only with true desire. I’m not sure what kind of harsh “recruitment tactics” you have experienced from Christians, but I will tell you that when Islam runs the state, the recruitment tactics would prevent this discussion. America is all about freedom, and we all need to keep it that way. But this thread is probably mostly for a believer, because we are likely the only ones that this particular show will speak to. But we are on the same side as far as freedom. My faith teaches us to love even those who disagree with us.

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 12:17pm

      LEPERUS: The thing you don’t understand about SE. Cupp is that her parents are christians (ah oh-there goes your theory that all people take on their parents religions). And she does not hate Christians, nor try to change them. She co-exists nicely with them with respect and visa versa. It would be nice if you did the same..

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    • Christopherleemichigan
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 1:40pm

      The last I knew Christianity has NO recruitment constraints whatsoever. Anyone, anywhere can come to Christ. It isn’t about what we believe or how we act….it is about a relationship with One who has done everything He can to beg us to communicate with Him. He is not a dictator and He forces noone….it is our own choices that lead us away from Peace, Truth, and Love….it is a lie to say that He only accepts some…He accepts us all just the way we are. And not matter what we believe or say…He has created us all, He forknew us all….and His plan will be honored in this world. He didn’t give up His son to see His work fall apart. He will see it through and those who love Him will be in Peace. Those who oppose Him will not.

      Why is it that those who claim to athiest love to talk about freedom and can take such great pride in the freedoms we possess but they cannot see that it was because of God, and God alone, that we live in this free country and enjoy all the great freedoms we have. Opposite of that…without this same God all the freedoms we enjoy today will cease to exist.

      GOD BLESS AMERICA!

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    • Black3Actual
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 3:11pm

      QPWillie,

      If Leperus thinks Christians have a “pushy” way of “recruiting,” how do you think he is going to like that of Islam?

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    • encinom
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 4:02pm

      Welcome to the Mormon 700 Club.

      Unable to return to the white washed days of the 1950′s Leave it to Beaver America, Beck and other fundies are looking to mysticism and ancient myths to justifiy his paranoia and failed beliefs. Beck has replaced his addiction to drugs and alcohol, with the other extreme.

      Beck is looking to turn America into a Mormon version of the Taleban’s Afghanistan. Beck and the Rabbi are speaking out against the notion of America’s freedom and seeking to replace it with fundimentalism.

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    • Leperus
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 4:57pm

      So the “If you think __________ is bad, just wait until ____________ does it” arguement might be fun, but it doesn’t take away the fact that Christians (at least the ones I have encountered) have been very agressive and pushy with the “Don’t you want to go to heaven“ and ”Why don’t you believe it?” whine. I can go on and on about how folks have tried to “trick” me into going to religious functions, even going so far as to have a pastor come to dinner, intervention style. Total and utter turn off. Hey, believe what you want and good luck/god bless, but please, leave me out of it.

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  • macpappy
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:11am

    Money is your master Beck, and the scales are falling from the eyes sensible people every day.
    Folks, Jesus, or God, or Allah, or Buddha, or Muhammad or any other perceived deity will not save you from what is to happen. You will find that throughout history, the idols in which men worship have never, never, never, stopped a war, genocide, or any of the horrors that men deal upon the table of life. If you are so blinded by a 2000 year old remodeled, rewritten, diaries of hunted men then you go ahead. But me, I’ll depend on my own ability to protect myself and leave the idols to you.
    Bless your hearts.

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    • KingJames1611
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:49am

      Jesus IS COMING AGAIN, and He won’t be a little child in a manger this time. He’ll destroy his enemies like grapes in a wine press; He’ll be King of Kings, and He WILL bring peace. Every knee will bow to Him, even yours. I suggest you get saved.

      3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people [there was] none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.

      4 For the day of vengeance [is] in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.

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    • Wakeup Maggie
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:50am

      God bless your soul macpappy…sounds like you could use some prayers

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    • ranchoazulmt
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 11:25am

      Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot, over!
      @macpappy
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:11am
      Money is your master Beck, and the scales are falling from the eyes sensible people every day.
      Folks, Jesus, or God, or Allah, or Buddha, or Muhammad or any other perceived deity will not save you from what is to happen. You will find that throughout history, the idols in which men worship have never, never, never, stopped a war, genocide, or any of the horrors that men deal upon the table of life. If you are so blinded by a 2000 year old remodeled, rewritten, diaries of hunted men then you go ahead. But me, I’ll depend on my own ability to protect myself and leave the idols to you.
      Bless your hearts

      How can you say Bless your hearts after your scathing paragraph before it? You say I believe in myself, not us. Judeo-Christian principles will save this country and this planel! Can you not see it?
      You do not have to follow it, but you must understand the priciples for modern society to continue. If we all go down the road that I am more important than you, we will fail every time.
      God said; “Follow me. Get behind me. Care for one another. Love one another.” If you care less for those around you than your self, we are doomed…

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 12:27pm

      MACPAPPY: I think I will do what I can as a frail human being and let God do the rest…because you see…I didn’t toss the stars into the sky…I cannot create a human OR heal the sick….I cannot put moral laws on the hearts of men…I cannot tell you why a beautiful sunset makes me cry….I cannot explain love…or walk on water…and certainly do not hold the keys of life and death in my hands…..So I will not mourn over death because for me it is only the beginning of eternity with Christ who is the only one true judge whom I trust with all of my heart. My Father knows me and I know him…He is ALL powerful. It is only HIM I fear and NOT man. It is a reverent fear of respect and love like a small child has for a father. He has me and the rest of His children in the palm of His hand.
      “I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear Him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear Him.” (Luke 12:4-5).

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  • Wilma
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:11am

    What is next?

    Judging by what I’ve seen on television, normalizing incest is next. The subject is slowly creeping into mainstream television programming. Brothers sleeping with their sisters has been the topic of programs such as Prison Break, House, Two and a Half Men, and most recently HBO’s Game of Thrones. I was on a plane watching an episode of “Medium” when a scene depicting a father in an extremely graphic sexual situation with his 20 something daughter flashed across the screen. I’d never watched the show and there was no warning given. Thankfully, there were no children sitting around me.

    We are in very dangerous times.

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    • Locked
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:25am

      “HBO’s Game of Thrones.”

      Which draws inspiration from the War of the Roses. Royal families have had incest for ages.

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    • nick7
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:30am

      These are endtimes !

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    • Mclmrtn
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:54am

      Look, if you want to see incest prevalent somewhere, look no further than the Bible. Your comments on incest in an entertainment medium is just a little overreaction. Just a little.

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    • tzion
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 12:59pm

      @MCMRTN
      The only obvious cases of incest in that Bible that are forbidden by it involves Lot’s daughters (who believed there were no suitable men around). Unless you count Adam and Noah’s generations, there are no other instances (the Bible doesn’t forbid relations between cousins).

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    • LouC57
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 2:25pm

      Huh? I think I saw ever episode of Prison Break and don’t recall “incest” in the story line … unless “Teddy” was the incestee.

      But yes, Wilma, you’re correct, incest is creeping in. You know, it’s about time to unplug, easy to say hard to do.
      God Bless you.

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    • Wilma
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:47pm

      Louc57, An entire season of Prison Break was driven by a secret of President Reynolds. A secret that could destroy her. The secret that viewers tuned in to discover was an incestuous relationship that had existed between the President and her brother. Look it up.

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    • Wilma
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:50pm

      For those who think I am over reacting.

      http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/face-it/201201/breaking-yet-another-taboo-television-incest

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    • SurhanSurhan
      Posted on February 5, 2012 at 7:40pm

      @ TZION- Abraham: He wedded his own sister (Sarah.) (?)

      (a) Why saidst thou (O Abraham), she is my sister? So I might have taken her for me to WIFE…..now take her (Sarah) and go thy way. Genesis 12:19

      (b) “And yet INDEED she (Sarah) is my sister (!)…..and she became my (Abraham’s) WIFE.” Genesis 20:12

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    • heartitorleaveit
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 2:19am

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    • tzion
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 8:48pm

      @Surhan
      Maybe you should try completing the quote for once. And how about context? Avraham explained to Pharaoh that he feared he might be killed if he said Sarah was his wife (he lied). Second, the complete second quote has him describing Sarah as his half-sister. There is, however, no mention of Terah having multiple wives so this could be Avraham lying again to avoid admitting he had lied. Thirdly, the laws on incest were given to the Israelites in the desert after accepting the covenant while Avraham entered into a covenant after he was married.

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  • Christhefarmer
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:08am

    The Biblical and historical evidence shows that the Moabites worshiped a Baal. The pre-Islamic and Muslim sources show that the Meccans took over the idol Hubal from the Moabites. K
    Hubal was regarded as the son of al-Lāt, Arabs considered her as one of the daughters of Allah along with Manāt and al-‘Uzzá.

    Lol as i was coping the txt to put over here sections were disappearing from wiki….

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  • phamill
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:07am

    So to me the question is “What do you believe?” Have you ever had the feeling that someone is watching over you? How about looking at our own family. Do you have a 1960′s person? one that is 50 plus that has no retirement,no job,living in there kids home and still thinks the best thing is getting high? then do you have the one that goes to work everyday,save‘s money for retirement pays taxes and pays medical so that the other member of the family get’s free health care and free food and free money to apply for a place to live? I do and when you person number 2 and you recieved your paycheck this January you saw you check decrease,why medicare taxes went up.So is this Ba’al? How have we become a country like this?when we were a country of Reagan just 30years ago

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    • saywhaat
      Posted on February 5, 2012 at 10:44am

      A large part of our society has been “dumbed down” over the last 40 years by our own educators. We ARE in very dangerous times. Most people, even those of good intent and heart, haven’t a clue how dangerous. Socialists and Marxists have crept into all parts of our lives. They seem to be more interested in their immediate id and ego’s satisfaction. If we and they don’t wake up, it will be more than an economic collapse that will occur. Be alert to what is happening around the world. Study what Ba’al is all about. It explains a lot. I, for one, remain hopeful that our better natures can prevail.

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  • Locked
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:03am

    Prod my memory if it’s faulty; isn’t Daniel Lapin the same guy who was buddy-buddy with Abramoff, received donations from some of his clients, and made up fake awards for Abramoff to get into the Cosmos Club?

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    • Steelhead
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:10am

      same guy alright. Glenn needs better friends

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    • justangry
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 12:44pm

      I’m starting to notice a trend of questionable guests on his show. At least the clips he releases to the Blaze.

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  • Obeckian1984
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:02am

    Modern references to Molech are linked to the Bohemian Grove, a gathering of influential men in a location in southern California. Those who believe that the gatherers worship Molech point to a standard ceremony performed at the grove, called The Cremation of Care, during which a man-shaped dummy named Care is immolated before a giant stone statue of an owl. Further “evidence” of the role of prominant Americans includes various images of owls on currency, in the placement of streets in Washington DC and in the structure of some buildings.

    The fact that Molech is traditionally represented as the body of a man with the head of a calf indicates that the ceremony is not related to Molech. The main link to the Canaanite god is the implication of human sacrifice, however, Molech was not the only god to receive burnt offerings of animals and humans. It is unclear how Molech became linked to the Grove’s owl and ceremonies.

    The link between abortion clinics and Molech worship is stronger than the link ascribed to the Bohemian Grove because of the belief that infants were sacrificed to the god. Most abortion doctors do not “sacrifice” aborted fetuses for the purpose of worship or to appease an angry god, however, it is still sacrifice on the alter selfesness or lust . http://www.defunddc.com/molech-worship-and-bohemian-grove/

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    • JThunder
      Posted on February 4, 2012 at 4:05pm

      The Bohemian Grove meets in Northern California. By car it is about a one hour drive north of San Francisco near the towns of Occidental and Monte Rio. The nearest city of significant size is Santa Rosa, CA.

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  • mike_trivisonno
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:58am

    It is a robot auto posting. I report this nonsense as spam.

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  • Steelhead
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:57am

    the only thing these two guys worship is money. On our money are the words ‘in God we trust’. Talk about a false idol worship and these two fit the bill

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    • Deepdiver58
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:14am

      Really? Cite your referenc of your so called facts so that your opinion will actually be supported by relevence.

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    • NOTAMUSHROOM
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:17am

      “In God We Trust” is on the money because the Fed wanted to make it seem like the paper was really worth something. Get it?

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  • Harry Assenback
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:55am

    Get Lost Tramp……

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  • Country
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:51am

    Jesus was only happy with 2 out of 7 churches, are you in the right church. Rev. 2&3. Don’t be deceived because we are in the end of the age Jesus taught us in Mark 13.

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    • Obeckian1984
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:55am

      The chief feature of Moloch’s worship among the Jews seems to have been the sacrifice of children, and the usual expression for describing that sacrifice was “to pass through the fire”, a rite carried out after the victims had been put to death. The special centre of such atrocities was just outside of Jerusalem, at a place called Tophet (probably “place of abomination”), in the valley of Geennom. According to III (I) Kings, xi, 7, Solomon erected “a temple” for Moloch “on the hill over against Jerusalem”, and on this account he is at times considered as the monarch who introduced the impious cult into Israel. After the disruption, traces of Moloch worship appear in both Juda and Israel. The custom of causing one’s children to pass through the fire seems to have been general in the Northern Kingdom [IV (II) Kings, xvii, 17; Ezech. xxiii, 37], and it gradually grew in the Southern, encouraged by the royal example of Achaz (2 Kings 16:3) and Manasses [IV (II) Kings, xvi, 6] till it became prevalent in the time of the prophet Jeremias (Jerem. xxxii, 35), when King Josias suppressed the worship of Moloch and defiled Tophet [IV (II) Kings, xxiii, 13 (10)]. It is not improbable that this worship was revived under Joakim and continued until the Babylonian Captivity.
      http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10443b.htm

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    • Texas.7
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:15am

      There are a lot of messages given to us through the letters to the 7 Churches. You are correct in what Jesus points out as desirable, but there is more. These are markers in time, each church representing an age. They offer a road map, so that we can see this, and find our way home. God always loved man, but knew the paths we would take before we were born. But He had a plan, and sent His Son.

      He calls out to all, Rev 3:20 “Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”

      http://www.youtube.com/user/TrustHim70

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  • Texas.7
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:43am

    Baal, by whatever name he had in various communities, always had a cohort representing fertility, the moon, “Mother Earth” and harvest, and the Earth. While Baal, at different times, represented the power and force of storms, the Sun, chaos and anger- this cohort led its followers further into spiritual enslavement of Baal through temple prostitution and giving one’s self up to the lowest human passions. Mythology around Baal and Asherah/Astarte represents false gods– but the evil forces still exist. Satan and demons still exert their force on people, whom they hate.

    As Moloch, children were sacrificed in incinerators in his honor. The female goddess of choice was worshiped as she was thought to be his lover, so worshiping her through sexual sacrifice would also keep Baal on your side.

    Do these forces still exist, and are they made manifest in our modern world- yes. Earth worship (Gaia), sex without boundaries (elevating self to a god), fear of the anger of the Sun god (global warming) are leading us down the same vile path that caused God to use the Israelite to cleanse Canaan. God instructed Abraham to not take the land yet: Gen 15:16 “But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites [is] not yet full.” Around the time when virgin daughters were offered to the gods as prostitutes to men, and children were being incinerated alive as offering to Baal, God sent the Israelites to claim the land.

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    • Texas.7
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:53am

      We have returned to this, whether or not we credit Baal/Satan.

      Sexual traffic continues to increase at unprecedented rates
      We kill our children through abortion, to take away the burden “sin”, innocent lives are sacrificed
      The god of chaos stirs nation against nation and war lord against war lord
      He teaches that vengeance can be taken on others to save one’s own soul- anti-Christ

      How is this generation not living this out??? On that, throw earth worship mingled with fear of the angry sun god, and discussions of lowering population and controlling the masses to coerce submission? And now, free abortions (potentially forced in the future, as in China now) to top it off.

      We are living in the end times. Please pray for revival, and that truth will be recognized. God has been speaking to me about these manifestations of the ancient evils represented by false gods for some time, and we can see the Destroyer in our midst, growing in power given to him by man’s submission.

      But Jesus has won this battle! One only need to open their eyes, call out to Him. He gave Himself to bring life to the dead and darkness to a dark world. How can we help others to see this? Please pray for a great awakening while there is time.

      Bless you all

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    • mike_trivisonno
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:57am

      The Children of Beslan.

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    • copatriots
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:18am

      Excellent insight! Thank you, Texas. We are reading the OT and were reminded of the numerous generations that re-established idols many times in the very next generation after the were purged. It is truly incredulous……until one reflects on the state of the world today. All these years later, the Bible foretells accurately the continued struggle between good and evil.

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    • Texas.7
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:56am

      You are right, COPATRIOTS. When you read the Bible with an open mind to what God is saying, it all becomes clear. I can understand how a non-believer (like in the little thread above) thinks it is crazy, but it is crystal clear to so many of us.

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    • CIAtroll
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 4:05pm

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px1t1-a9uxk&feature=player_embedded

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    • Texas.7
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 4:06pm

      CIATroll, I found the video. I am totally unfamiliar with the issue related to that company. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD9w-zhIwIU

      I wasn’t able to tell if the company was involved, or a single employee was involved, and if so, are they still with the company? They should be in prison. I am afraid that too many political decisions have been made for too long based on the exchange of money. If anyone was protected in government contracts from prosecution, shame on us. I’m not sure We have the answer on how this was resolved from the video. Companies have lots of employees, and are responsible for terminating relationships with employees convicted of crimes. If you have any confirmed data that this company was truly involved in sex trade (and not just single employees who were hopefully prosecuted if true), and they kept their government contract, that would be a concern to all of us. Let us know if you have any further evidence. Thanks

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    • CIAtroll
      Posted on February 6, 2012 at 8:26am

      McKinney was voted out of office and Rumsfeld made millions selling his book

      Lucifer is the destroyer

      http://www.conspirazzi.com/category/secret-societies/illuminati/

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  • qpwillie
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:42am

    Almost all Christian churches these days worship Baal by name. “Baal” is an ancient Babylonian word which translates to English as “the lord”. At one point, the Jews decided that the name of Yahweh was too sacred to pronounce and substituted the name ‘Adonai“ which also means ”the lord” (Same as the Babylonian word, “Baal”).

    The Bible tells us in several places not to worship the lord.
    Isaiah 42:8
    ‘ “I am Yahweh; that is my name!
    I will not yield my glory to another
    or my praise to idols.”
    NIV

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    • Obeckian1984
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:51am

      Research Molech/Molach in your bible

      then research the Bohemian Grove.

      maybe one day Glenn will tell his sheep the whole story

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  • TEARS FOR AMERICA
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:41am

    But for the Grace of God, and His amazing grace, go all of us into darkness and despair…may we as an individual, and as a people, declare that we are on the side of what is right, what is pure, what is Truth, regardless of the threat to do otherwise.

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  • Rip Curly
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:40am

    What a bunch of hooey! Time to take another step in your evolution, Beck. Man invented god(s), not the other way around. Our goodness comes from within, from a sense of human solidarity. We’re not the only species that exhibits that trait. Have your DNA mapped, Glenn, then take a look at the pictures taken through the Hubble telescope. Then, tell me that the earth and it’s inhabitants are the sole focus of the universe.
    There is no intellect without matter. Period. When you’re dead, you’re dead. This IS your eternity. Own it!

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    • NOTAMUSHROOM
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:12am

      Oh! I get it! That means you’re a Baal worshipper!!!

      That was easy!

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 12:35pm

      Eternity? Than you admit there is an eternity? Where will you spend yours? Eternity is a long time and you owe it to yourself to investigate,,,,or else it may be one looong eternity.

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    • Black3Actual
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 3:29pm

      RIP CURL,

      You must not be up to speed on your physics. There are some 322 known constants that have been identified so far. ALL of them must have the exact values they happen to have for human life to exist. This equates to 10 to the 322 power. The statistical chance of 0 is only 10 to the 50th power. You cite what you observe, but you show no understanding of those observations. You shouldn’t do that – it is irrational. There is yet another thing you mentioned that relates to the issue at hand: DNA. I like Dawkins and the evolutionists. I wonder, do you suppose that ANY of them have ever stopped to wonder at the complexity of the code in DNA? If we received a simple * * * – - – * * * from space, Dawkins I bet you and Dawkins would proclaim it proof of intelligent life. Yet you see the code in DNA and declare it a random accident. Do you ever stop to think that, for life to exist as it does, part of that “random accident” involves self-repair? And do you understand what that means for the THEORY of “evolution?” There is a reason that we have never seen a dog turn in to a cat. I laugh as those who deny God and claim science for their reason when science tells us that there MUST be a Creator. I hope you come to understand the necessity of wisdom to guide your knowledge. If you do, you might find you see things differently.

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  • Wakeup Maggie
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:34am

    Excuse me…I think it may be time for a “Baal” movement. I won’t forget to flush

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  • Joisey
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:28am

    It appears to be God’s Plan to allow America to be destroyed, and to let Evil rule the globe…at least for a time.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:31am

      No, we will not be destroyed, but we will as a nation become part of the problem; the book of revelations speaks of the second beast with the horns of a young lamb; that is America, and we will be used, probably via the UN, for enforcement of the final nightmare to come.

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    • BIGJAYINPA
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:35am

      I’ve always felt a connection between the US and Israel. Like the children of Abraham we also had a special covenant with the Lord from the start of this nation. We were founded as a nation of God fearing, God’s law respecting people. Like ancient Israel, as long as we kept to God’s Laws and guidance we were a blessed nation. Now for the last 50 years we have been defying God and turning our backs on his laws, and driving him from our lives. Like ancient Israel we will pay for and be punished for our arrogance and defiance. Fortunately, just like Israel we will once again gain His favor when we turn aside from the worship of idols and return to respecting Him…Just sayin’

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  • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:27am

    Sounds like the “if it feels good, do it” movement that went on in the late 60′s.

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    • mike_trivisonno
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:52am

      It sure does. But today’s incarnation is accompanied by violent the Islamic Jihad dynamic not present in the 1960s.

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  • Nemo13
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:20am

    This is all crap. It has nothing to do with BAAL or God, it has everything to do with LAZY PEOPLE who let others take over and run their lives. Lazy people who let these crazies in one by one. History repeating itself over and over because of LAZY people not educating heir children on what is important. In America, people with a normal life (family, house, car, etc) will cling to their stuff and ‘hope’ for better things rather than taking action. Only in the most desperate hours do most act. That is all it is, typical people. The citizens grumble everywhere, but what do they do? Nothing. You don’t sit on your butt and whine “Help us lord” because nothing will happen. Survival is for the strongest. That is true life glaring you right in the face. If you are too weak to defend your freedom and speak out and loudly against usurpers, you will fail. No magic or God about it.

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    • mike_trivisonno
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:49am

      I am not sure you full comprehend the depth and breadth of the anent enemy we face. You would do well to read up on the history of Jihad.

      You rage against institutions and rituals that have sustained and advanced humanity for thousands of years and reduce it to a bunch of lazy people when it far far more than that.

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    • NOTAMUSHROOM
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:32am

      Mike, agreed. I think the problem is that our lives are so short, in the grand scheme of things. apparently, we must make these mistakes over and over again, just to sort out who is paying attention to history, as in the history of mankind.

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    • D-Fence
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:59am

      So speaks the sole voice of wisdom. Please keep it to yourself. If you’re not a part of the solution, you’re a part of the problem.

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    • tzion
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 1:02pm

      Agree. I think that’s where he was going with it though. If you watch the videos, he doesn’t say people are worshiping Baal, he says they are behaving in Baa-like cultural way. This means a lack of virtue, effort, and morality.

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    • mzk1
      Posted on February 4, 2012 at 3:34pm

      People with families and children ARE part of the solution. The problem is lazy people who “do what they feel like” are in the end capable of anytihng, as we saw in Britain recently.

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    • saywhaat
      Posted on February 5, 2012 at 11:17am

      I agree with the idea that Lazy people allow History of evil events to repeat itself. FREEDOM is NOT FREE. It needs to be defended in word and deed at every turn, by ALLof us!! Speak out often and Vote for those who advance FREEDOM and Prosperity for all of us.

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:18am

    Yes, we’re right on track with both Old and New Testaments. If you are saved in Christ, you gotta be excited. Good time to get the good news out to your friends and family.

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    • old white guy
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:23am

      what bothers me is that other than our belief in Christ there seems to be no way to avoid the disaster that is coming our way. we will be caught up in the termoil.

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    • Steelhead
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:25am

      A Coulter said that Jews need to be perfected , as a Christian what do you think?

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    • BIGJAYINPA
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:38am

      Yes Old Guy, we will be caught in the turmoil. There will be no way to avoid it. But if we belive in the Lord and are saved through Jesus Christ, we will not be destroyed by it. Our faith in the Lord will sustain and save us……..Just sayin’

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    • rush_is_right
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:53am

      “A Coulter said that Jews need to be perfected , as a Christian what do you think?”

      we think you need to get some intelligence….

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    • Steelhead
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:05am

      Rush is flubber- Seriously , since Jews don’t accept Christ as their savior where does that leave them?

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    • macpappy
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:24am

      Just as you don’t accept the Jews, they don’t accept you. From an outsiders view, the Jewish religion is far more believable than Christianity. At least they have the uncorrupted Torah, which has not been changed in more than two thousand years; all Christians have is a rehashed, rewritten, conglomeration of tall tales, cobbled together to start the first Protestant church.

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 12:50pm

      @MACPAPPY: The more you hate Christianity the more I know it’s true!! Over 300 prophecy’s in the old testament were fulfilled by Jesus!

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    • mzk1
      Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:46pm

      Well, as a Jew, I have zero problem with people who think we are going to hell, as long as they don’t try to stop me or help me get there. I have a great deal of problems with liberal Christians and Jews who try to enforce their common thoelogy on the rest of us.

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  • Uechi
    Posted on February 3, 2012 at 9:12am

    There is absolutely no doubt thta we are experiencing unprecedented evil throught the world. The forces of darkness whether you call them Bael, Lucifier, Lord of the Flies or Statn are alive and well. As stated in an old movie “ The List of Adrian Messenger”,” Evil does exist, evil is”

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    • Locked
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:05am

      Lucifier is a title of Jesus from Revelation. It has been incorrectly attributed to the devil.

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    • Obeckian1984
      Posted on February 3, 2012 at 10:30am

      That’s what the 33rd degree masons believe

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    • mzk1
      Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:14pm

      Actually, in Jewish tradition, Heilel Ben Shachar (Lucifer in the original Hebrew) is simply the angel of Babylon. This is what the context in the Prophets implies.

      Judaism does not ascribe free will to angels. This is why he uses Ba’al (a mythical construct) instead of Satan. In Jewish tradition, Satan is sort of a DA (thus his title, “the accuser”), with entrapment privileges. He was created to give people free will, so that they can earn their reward. T oput it another way, God created this world, instead of putting us in Heaven directly, to keep us off welfare.

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