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Beck Warns: Don‘t Let Radicals Use Trayvon Martin’s Death to Push Political Agendas

 

Glenn Beck Talks About Trayvon Martin and New Black Liberation Militia Vigilantism

On his Thursday radio broadcast, Glenn Beck delved into an incident that has ignited a whirlwind of controversy — one that has raised pulses of people from all walks, but all for different reasons. His radio segment with a caller concerned over the fallout follows below, but first The Blaze provides some background:

By now, many are probably familiar with the disturbing story of Trayvon Martin — a 17-year-old black teen gunned down by a Florida gated community’s self-appointed neighborhood watchman. Much of the current evidence indicates the shooting was a hate crime, as the unarmed boy, who was said to have been seeking shelter from the rain, was carrying nothing more than a packet of Skittels at the time of the incident. Adding to this theory, police indicate the shooter may have uttered a racial epithet — “f–king coon” — prior to opening fire on the Florida youth.

The shooter, a Hispanic by the name of George Zimmerman, claims he was acting in self defense and as such, has yet to be arrested. He maintains he was attacked by the teen, but a statement by the deceased’s girlfriend — who was allegedly on the phone with Trayvon at the time of the shooting — suggests it was in fact Zimmerman who assailed Martin.

Although Zimmerman is attempting to shield himself behind a 2005 Florida “Stand Your Ground” law giving citizens the right to defend themselves when threatened, it is clear this was not a case of meeting force with equal force.

According to reports, public records reveal that in 2005 Zimmerman was arrested in Orange County for resisting arrest with violence and battery on a law enforcement officer. Residents of the Sanford gated community also allege the shooter had been overly-aggressive during his watch-shifts in the past.

It is possible then that Zimmerman may simply be a deeply disturbed, paranoid individual with a propensity for violence towards just about anyone.

In any case, few if any believe Zimmerman should not be arrested.

Even Stand Your Ground’s sponsors are calling for his arrest and do not believe the gunman deserves immunity under their law.

Former state Sen. Durell Peaden and current state Rep. Dennis Baxley said the law was specifically engineered to protect people who are clearly in danger of suffering bodily harm.

“They got the goods on him [Zimmerman]. They need to prosecute whoever shot the kid,” said Peaden. “He has no protection under my law.”

Section 3 of the statute reads:

A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

Self-defense laws in other states say a victim must at least make an attempt to flee before using force, unless they are at home, under the broader “castle doctrine.”

Now, the Congressional Black Caucus and other left-leaning lawmakers are rallying for hearings to revise Stand Your Ground – even though the language of the bill and its provisions fall within the framework of most would consider right and just.

And Van Jones’ Color of Change, Change.org, Al Sharpton, NAACP, CAIR and others are hopping on the bandwagon — both with regards to Stand Your Ground and the alleged misconduct of the Sanford Police.

Beck said the law “doesn’t apply“ in this case and that ”you can’t just go follow somebody down the street and claim the stand your ground law.”

“You have to have a right to stand your ground…and say ‘this is my property, you are in violation.’ Not just to be able to shoot people, but to protect yourself and that doesn’t include going down the street and following the guy down a block. That’s not what you do.”

Yet, “the left is saying that you don’t have a right to stand your ground.”

Beck’s co-host, Stu Burguiere, noted that the left will oftentimes uses tragic events such as these to overturn a commonsense law that everyone “knows is the right thing,” but that they could not justify overturning otherwise.

“Again, we don’t know all the facts of this case yet, but it seems as if this guy… was calling him [Trayvon] racist names and following him, then shot him in cold blood. It has nothing to do with this law.”

Glenn said that “by any stretch of the imagination,” it does not appear Trayvon was the aggressor in this case and that justice needs to be served, but also expressed concern that the left is using this tragedy to push their political agendas.

He also suggested that anyone who really understands the Civil Rights Movement would hardly push to eliminate a law that protects people from allowing thugs to assault them.

But if calls to change a law most would argue is reasonable and had naught to do with the boy’s death were not enough, now this neighborhood vigilante’s head is being called for by…other vigilantes.

The Blaze reported that The Black Liberation Militia and now, Nation of Islam’s Louis Farrakhan, has vowed vengeance and to take the law into their own hands by hunting down Zimmerman wherever he may be and conducting a citizen’s arrest — a measure of which Martin’s own father disapproves.The Black Liberation Militia”

Beck responded: “We have this extremist African-American militia group that says they’re just going to come in and handle it. You’re got Al Sharpton winding everybody up. You’ve got Color For Change winding everybody up.”

He also noted that Zimmerman will likely become a poster child for police brutality and racism even though the police were not the ones who committed the crime, and thus far, only stand accused of conducting a sloppy investigation. To that end, Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee ended up stepping down – at least temporarily — over the incident late Thursday afternoon.

At the end of the day, Beck believes that it is not for Change.org, or Al Sharpton, or a rogue militia in the spirit of the Blank Panthers to deliver retribution for the child and his family, and that the goal in all this is clear: Seek justice not an agenda.

Yet that will likely not stop the allegations or calls for vigilantism from flying, even though something is being done — it just may not be the “something” some people may want:

Initially, most of the calls for action were prompted by progressive website Change.org, which has been circulating a petition calling for Zimmerman’s arrest already garnering nearly 817,000 signatures to date — and has clearly accomplished what it set out to do. The Department of Justice has taken notice of the case and, just hours after the FBI announced it was launching a probe into the murder, Florida state Attorney Norm Wolfinger announced his call that a Grand Jury be convened. His full statement follows [emphasis added]:

“I share in the desire of the family and the community to accurately collect and evaluate all the facts surrounding the tragic death of Trayvon Martin. That is why I directed the expeditious review of the investigation which was delivered by the Sanford Police Department one week ago today; areas for further investigation have been identified; and, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement has agreed to assist and has been working hard with my office since Friday March 16th.

“I will also be utilizing the investigative resources of the Seminole County Grand Jury which will be called to session on Tuesday, April 10, 2012.

“I respectfully request that the public remain patient as this process continues forward. We are a country based upon law, and as the State Attorney for the Eighteenth Judicial Circuit I am sworn to uphold those laws. As I have previously stated, the public is entitled to no less than a thorough, deliberate, and just review of the facts. We intend to honor that commitment.“

Glenn Beck Talks About Trayvon Martin and New Black Liberation Militia Vigilantism

Yet rogues and political activists do not seem as vocal in their praise of Wolfinger and others who have vowed to deliver justice as they have been in their scorn of the Sanford police department and a Stand Your Ground law.

While allegations have been made citing the Sanford police’s “checkered past,” such claims have yet to be substantiated, and the fact that many news outlets are reporting Zimmerman as “white,” when he is Hispanic (his father referred to him as a “Spanish-speaking minority with many black family members”), isn’t helping matters.

“He’s not white,” Beck said. “So, who’s the bad guy — he’s the stereotypical bad guy? You [the left] don‘t want to demonize the Hispanic because he’s part of the oppressed.“ He added that this sort of ”radical thinking” is the kind one sees within the Occupy movement, where facts are disregarded entirely.  ”I mean, did Al Sharpton ever care about the facts?”

Of course, people of all races, creeds and religions can be racist, but it seems to only fuel the fire when agitators paint Zimmerman as a white racist hiding under the “protection” of a “flawed” Stand Your Ground law and a largely white, “racist” police force. In fact, this narrative seems eerily in lock-step with the “enforcing negative stereotypes“ component of ”Political System X.”

Beck ceded that the man who shot Trayvon could indeed be a racist, but that many of his detractors are driven by a racial agenda too, and thus are everything they claim to stand against.

Regardless of Zimmerman’s motives, a child is dead. And it does a horrible diservice to this boy’s legacy and memory when those with ulterior motives exploit his death to further their own agenda.

 


 

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  • EP46
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 4:56am

    Never let a crisis go to waste….even if you have to create the crisis out of the horrible event of a child’s murder. Yes, the shooter should be in jail……but look at the hate these black leaders are teaching the children !

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    • Lone Ranger
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:32am

      The left will grab hold of ANYTHING they can to steal our rights. Since liberals lack the gene to blush, they will say or do anything and not feel the slightest bit embarrassed.

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    • dissentnow
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 6:05am

      “The left will grab hold of ANYTHING they can to steal our rights”

      Yeah, like the patriot act and domestic spy programs………oops :-(

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 6:12am

      Your right. This will be another mode of operation the left is going to use to stir up the masses. Obama and his proxy thugs are pursuing the violence and intimidation angle. We are in for some serious trouble for at least the rest of 2012.
      Be prepared for disruptions in supplies. Learn to use a gun, your going to need one.

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    • Choctaw25
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 6:47am

      We are now witnessing the Poster Event for Gun Control. The sad part is that everyone is buying into the media hipe. What I have heard and read from numerous sources, it is all still speculation. We now have “Experts” providing conflicting scenerios of what happened.
      It would appear that George is an aggressive person, but why did they have to use a photo of the victim that was taken years ago, that make him look like a child.
      Again I ask, why didn’t the victim or his girlfriend also call 911 immediately when HE thought HE was being followed, chased, pursued (Websters dictionary defines it; to follow in order to overtake, capture,or kill; chase). There is an old law enforcement saying; “Flight is Guilt”.
      It is and was a tragedy, but the leftist, liberals and the blacks are acting as if no person of color has EVER commited a tragedy against a White and the media is hypeing him as a white man, not as a Hispanic.
      America is so easily drawn into the leftist liberal web, that’s why I say; “Barry will win re-election in a landslide”.

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 7:06am

      When were those pictures taken, when the kid was 11? And for Zim, what a mug shot?.Black guys have the worst attitudes on the planet. And don’t give me that slavery crap. They have more fricking rights than I do. They are dangerous mental cases with or without being “ armed”. You don’t have to wait until the other guy has his gun in his hand to start defending yourself. The law states that if you even THINK that you are about to be hurt or killed you can start defending yourself right then. Even if it turns out that the guy is just holding a bag of peanuts. Look it up people. They have brought all of this on themselves with their gangster ass stealing and criminal mindset. They will steal anything that is not bolted and welded. It is no wonder that people do not care about them. And their women are not much different.

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    • FreedomPurveyor
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 7:56am

      Isn‘t it nice how everyone can determine one’s guilt from news stories alone? Forget the investigation and trial, the guy on the TV told me it was murder!

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    • SpankDaMonkey
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 7:58am

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      Shame this kid is dead but, proding the Uneducated Government Dependent Black African Democrat Slave Population to start a riot over this is Insane. I feel sorry for them……..

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 8:21am

      Dissent now the NDAA under Obama is a thousand times worse than the patriot act. And reason they are doing it is because no one did anything when they passed the patriot act. This country ius being primed for a revolution…and revolution created by the government through extreme power grabs and Unconstitutional legislation. They are doing this to justify even largers power grabs that will lead to a NWO ….WAKE UP PEOPLE .
      This isn‘t conspiracy it’s creating a crisis to justify actions.
      Washington is deaf to the U.S. citizens and the U.S. citizens need to be deaf to Washington. Through state resolutions that take away all Federal authority not secificly given in the Constitution. If the Federal courts side with the government we remove the verdict stating it is a conflict of interest to have Federal courts interepete Constitutionality. Raise a stink so high that God in Heaven can smell it.
      And point blank deny federal agents from instituting Unconstitutional bills like THE NDAA

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    • cowboy357
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 8:31am

      Not to take away from the seriousness of the situation,

      but I’m wondering if the young man had been hit by a illegal alien drunk driver,

      would the Rev Al and crew be calling for stricter border security?

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    • TROONORTH
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 8:38am

      The racism of this horrible event is that, were the shooter not a ‘white’ nobody would care about it at all. Thousands of young black men are killed by other young black men every year and virtually none of their stories make the late news. But because this shooting involves a ‘white’ shooter all the black racists are trotted out to score points against the ‘white oppressor’. It seems that black on black crime is not worth reporting and only ‘white’ on black crime is newsworthy because it allows bottom feeders like sharpton to build and consolidate his power base.

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    • teamarcheson
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:30am

      Why is the news media still showing the picture of a 12 year old when the assailant was 17 years old. The White House had this all planned in advance and was just waiting for any white on black shooting. Oh, it is a Hispanic on black shooting. It does not matter because now the Black Nation is after the white Chief of Police.

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    • Hickory
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:33am

      Why should he be in jail? Do you know the facts?

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:33am

      Another black with a pack of skittles which the Media hasn’t covered so much.. Happened about the same time but I don‘t think I’ve seen this story on FOX or CNN.. Have any of you heard of it?

      http://youtu.be/sY3sYY1eKYE

      I don’t think I saw the story about the 15yr old white kid from KC having gas poured on him and set afire because he was white on FOX CNN MSNBC etc either although the Blaze did cover that story.

      What’s with the selected coverage people? I‘ve said many times and I’ll say it one more time because people are just not getting it.. Upwards to 10k Whites are being raped or murdered each year by blacks. Those stats can be found in the FBI stats; however, you can’t find 10 blacks raped or murdered by whites yet the Media covers all 10 or so cases but rarely mentions the other cases where whites are victims.

      Is this obvious to everyone? You then have to ask why. Why the selected coverage? Who/what benefits by concealing the extraordinary amount of black on white crime in America?

      The primary reason why this is concealed is because it strikes against the notion of multiculturalism, diversity, and pluralism which are lofty notions in theory but are turning out to be deadly for many unfortunate unsuspecting and uninformed members of the White race.

      Next you have to ask who is promoting the multicult, diver, and plural in America and why.. I hope that you will begin to question Boldly even you Mr. Beck.

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    • robert
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:09am

      This entire incident involves a bunch of lies uttered for the purpose of deifying some hoodie punk to martyr status in order for the black mobs to get some kind of favors or freebies.

      If the do-gooder bigots want to fall victim to their gullibility, note one thing: Every incident involving vicious black on white mob assaults…..WHICH ARE IGNORED BY THE MSM AND THE WHITE POPULATION AT LARGE…….has as its basis some kind of idea that these criminal blacks are “getting even” at whitey for one imagined justice or another, and they purposely ignore the literally thousands of black on white assaults and attacks their tribe commits every year.

      By jumping to conclusions and siding with black race baiters like Shartpton, Farrakhan, the Black Militia and the Black Panthers, the do-gooers screraming the loudest could well be setting themselves or their families up for beatings, murders and assaults all under the pretense of blacks “seeking justice for Trayvon,” just like these two recent examples:

      http://www.bnd.com/2012/03/19/2106449/ofallon-teen-attacked-near-her.html

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html

      Giving lip service won’t save you.

      Here’s hoping you all will be beneficiaries of your misaligned stupid howling. What a shame it would be if you lost an innocent family member to these black criminals, as some of us have.

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    • Jacque
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:33am

      It wouldn’t even be a story if the kid was white. Remember they are working for ‘their people’ thanks eric holder…liar and racist!

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    • robert
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 8:45pm

      Mil-Dot:

      “Black guys have the worst attitudes on the planet. And don’t give me that slavery crap.”

      That couldn’t be more accurate. Black attitude has nothing to do with slavery. Slavery is just an excuse to use when they invariably fail, which allows them the advantage of blaming their lack of achievement on whitey, who they delight in mobbing and beating to vent their frustrations at failing and being unable to compete with anybody actually, not just whites.

      If this country was majority Hispanic, with Hispanics holding the majority of power, blacks would be blaming them for the same lack of achievement they blame whites for right now, because Hispanics also outperform blacks in almost every endeavor but sports.

      All the states right now that have large and/or growing populations of Hispanics and blacks are involved periodically in racial fights, especially California, which Lee Baca, the Sheriff of LA County, described as a legitimate race war in every sense in an article he wrote for the LA Times. He should know. He’s at ground zero.

      Blacks are also fighting with Asians in schools that have larger than average Asian populations, and it’s because Asians outperform them so greatly it puts them to shame, so their jealousy prompts them to bully Asian kids too, just as they do white kids.

      Black attitude will not improve either. It will either be consumed in a civil conflict or they will fall so far behind they’ll fill the jails and prisons.

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    • AmericanFightingMan1
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:24pm

      So, an accused gets a jury of his peers. Who are Zimmerman’s peers? Whites? Hispanics? The Batson case ensures a person gets a jury composed of at least a portion of his peers (ie., same race). What race is Zimmerman? It has real legal implications.

      And what if there is a “not guilty”? Riots. Worse than Rodney King. Get ready. Could get nasty.

      Jesse Jackson’s comments that blacks are being targeted is interesting since there are some pundits who believe allowing hispanics to dramatically increase in numbers is an intentional efforts to marginalize blacks in America since hispanics are workers and family-oriented.

      Blacks are in a tough spot (self-inflicted for much of it) by not focusing on education, committing too much crime per capita and having children out of wedlock (one of the surest ways for a group to stay mired in poverty).

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    • Gangofone
      Posted on March 25, 2012 at 12:48pm

      When the FACTS come out, you may find your conclusions were wrong! Who initiated force against who? My beliefs don’t matter, as I look for the truth! You arrest a person when you have evidence that leads you to believe it will support a conviction. As of yet, this hasn’t happened. Those that are “pushing” for an arrest have no intrest in justice, as their race baiting antics have proven before. We need to expose these IDIOTS for what they are, the kind of low raceist that uses a gang mentality to support 1 part of society, the one that has their skin shade. There isn’t a much lower cause. Last I checked, the brain is above the neck and under the skin.

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  • Lone Ranger
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 4:43am

    You can see just by looking at him that this guy is no Sheldon Cooper. He should be charged at least with manslaughter, since he was obviously reckless with the use of his gun. That casts a bad light on all gun owners and gives the left (you should excuse the expression) ammunition for their assault on the Second Amendment.

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    • Diane TX
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:19am

      No, I don’t think that this gives the Left any ammunition. This isn’t about the “Stand your Ground” Law in Florida. This is just another sicko who wanted to shoot an imaginary threat. This guy has mental health issues, and should be removed from society, for the safety of us all. Let’s retain our second amendment rights to protect our lives and property.

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    • USPATRIOT101
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:15am

      Diane Unfortunantly is has become about the stand your ground law. From what evidence I’ve seen, Zimmerman should be jailed. He wasn’t standing his ground, he walked upon Treyvon’s ground. This young man could be the biggest loser on the planet but he had a legal right to be where he was. Zimmerman created the confrontation.

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    • AmericanFightingMan1
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:30pm

      What white person is sleeping comfortably tonight, not knowing that because Farrakhan and the Black Panthers opted to incite racial tensions, they will needlessly die tomorrow?

      Remember Morris Dees? The lawyer? Hmmm? Where is Morris Dees? He prosecuted the Klan in Idaho. Remember? Will he sue the Black Panthers when they incite someone to kill a white person who is alive today but dead tomorrow? No. Another liberal coward. Morris Dees only sues whites. Because Morris Dees is a racist.

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  • freedomofspeech
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 4:37am

    I pray this will not be another Tunisia incident, however with all the radical left it just maybe. I feel this is the spark. May God have mercy on our souls.

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    • TurboCat
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:35am

      I was thinking the same thing. And from what I can discern, this neighborhood watch guy was wrong for following and scaring this kid. Because how did the kid know who it was eyeing him and following him? Those screams for help right before he was shot are heart-wrenching! How terrified he must have been! You would have to be inhumane to shoot a terrified kid!

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  • Diane TX
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:13am

    Let me be obvious woman here and say that Zimmerman was not following the Law of Stand Your Ground. Instead, he actively pursued Trayvon Martin and “maybe” Trayvon fought back in an attempt to protect his self. Trayvon Martin looks far more intelligent than the beady eyed Zimmerman. Trayvon might have tried to fight off a neanderthal looking man, that was obviously in pursuit of him. Stand Your Ground doesn’t include chasing after someone who has moved away from your “ground”. For example, if someone walks in front of my house and glances at it, and then continues on his way, there isn’t any reason for me to believe that, that person means me any harm. It’s clear that “Stand Your Ground” doesn’t apply here, and therefore should not be rescinded. Also, this is not a White man that killed a Black kid, but a Latino man who killed a Black kid. I really don‘t know how these two groups feel about each other because I didn’t know that there was any problems between them.

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    • Mateytwo Barreett
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:26am

      @Diane
      Now perceptive! Beady eyes, andelic expressions! Good God, woman, get a grip! How do you determine INTENT from looking at photographs. The little angel was at least 5 years old and a foot taller than any photo you have seen. Age- not 12 17. Educastional status-was currently expelled.
      One last little ting nowcome so, mom, and sas all have different last names?

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  • sawbuck
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:16am

    Never ..never.. never … Let a crisis go to waste..!

    And this is No exception..
    In fact it may be the perfect example ..

    OR THEE PERFECT CRISIS .

    A murdered black kid…By a community watchdog gone bad.

    Lets see .. Who else is in the private sector that’s armed..?

    That considers themselves Patriots and are willing to protect their communities…?

    That has the potential of killing someone, that’s “not warranted”..?

    That this administration has their eye on..?

    I know …. What we need is… Government watchdogs…!

    Then we don’t need that pesky second amendment .

    ENTER:::
    The Community Security Administration.. CSA (union)

    And when we bring our boys home ,they will have a job waiting.

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    • Goldomark
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:02am

      Meh. Sounds like the USA and France who use tragedies performed by Muslims to promote intolerance, war and take away individual rights in the name of “security”.

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    • dissentnow
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:18am

      @Goldomark
      As a libertarian, i am sick of hearing neocons say that liberals “never let a crisis go to waste”. The truth is that BOTH liberals and conservatives never let a crisis go to waste. 9/11, the ultimate crisis, was used by the republicans to create an even bigger and much more personally intrusive federal government, as well as to strip away our liberites via the patriot act and domestic spy programs. 9/11 was also used to push a decades old foreign policy agenda of overthrowing the Iraqi government.
      The same people who are knocking the left for “never letting a crisis go to waste” are the same people who sat back and supported the same thing when a republican was in office. This is all political. Its a game. Nothing more, nothing less.

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    • Return2Freedom
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 6:51am

      @dessentnow Although I don’t disagree with alot of your points, I wanted to let you know that it, is not the neocons as you called them that are bringing up the “never let a crisis go to waste” comment. They are quoting a strategy that is used by Rahm Emmanuel and our other white house leaders.

      “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.” Rahm Emmanuel Feb 9 2009

      http://youtu.be/1yeA_kHHLow

      If this link doesn’t print out it can be found easily. My point is Conservatives and other use this quote not for our own beliefs, but for Obama’s own leaders admitted agenda.

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    • dissentnow
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 7:05am

      @return
      I know exactly where the quote comes from. I‘m just tired of hearing it being thrown around by neocon drones who don’t realize that their side is just as guilty of never letting a crisis go to waste as the left is.

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    • Classical Liberal
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 7:46am

      @return, just because Rahm coined the phrase doesn’t mean he holds a monopoly on the concept.

      Neo-cons and progressives are the same evil on either side of the party lines.

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    • AmazingGrace8
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:02pm

      @dissentnow

      Regarding your posts here….I have been a life-long conservative but in the past year, I am leaning more & more to be a libertarian. I have always believed in “the individual” & “reasonable amount of necessary ”laws”..not getting into “the weeds” with that comment, about 30 yrs ago I would find myself thinking “additional laws added to the books” applied to the 20% of citizens that just want to ignore common decency. Today about 30-35% of the population has no problem with unsavory behavior in a civil society. HOWEVER these additional laws added for these unsavory citizens take away all of our liberties….I don’t use the term “rights” because it has been mis-used for unsavory purposes. If this sounds too simple.well, when I initially heard the 1965 words of Paul Harvey in 1965 (I listened to him daily for all those years) many today would find it “simple & possibly (my word), crude“ and ”truth” now-a-days is considered “crude”!
      ….And good day!

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  • rbcintexas
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:07am

    They have to claim that Zimmerman is white because the Left believes that minorities cannot be racist especially Blacks although we see it on a daily basis like the girl who threatened her professor. The ones raising such a stink like Sharpton, Farrakhan, Van Jones, etc. are the real racists in this story.

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    • dissentnow
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 6:14am

      They claim that he is “white” for the same reason that MSNBC claimed that the black guy with the AK at the tea party rally was really white. It fits the narrative that white people are horrible, evil, racists who pose a threat to black people and, therefore, must be vilified at all costs. Afterall, the media works for the Obama administration. It is their job to make sure that he gets a 2nd term even if that means starting a race war to do so.

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  • Chrison
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:06am

    People should let the process work itself out before they rush in with condemnations and judgements on what happened and who’s to blame. Half the time, those who jump to conclusions get it wrong.

    The same goes for those who want to use this tragic incident to further another agenda such as stricter gun laws, abolition of self-protection laws, etc. It‘s totally immoral and disgusting to take advantage of someone else’s tragedy to further your own purposes. Stop ranting about your favorite cause and give solemn though about what this kid’s family and friends are going through.

    In short, let’s try to stay calm, folks, and let the process work. And, let’s have a bit of respect for the dead and empathy for the family and friends who are grieving. That’s the decent thing to do!

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    • MAMMY_NUNN
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 6:06am

      Agree this is a “Police acted stupidly moment” a rush to judgment before the facts are in.
      The media only feeds what they want you to see.
      Take Rodney king did they show the car chase or the resistance that led to the beating ? No
      they left that part out selectively.

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  • neiman1
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:00am

    Stand you ground does include following someone and instigating a conflict. The law doesn’t need to be changed but if the facts turn out to be as reported the shooter needs to be executed.

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  • adeleeeee
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:54am

    Don’t call me cold blooded. I am no white and no black and I am saying it: it is A case of homicide. That’s it. No more than that, a homicide. So a white (why this guy doesn’t look white to me at all but some other ethnic group) shot a black is a horrible crime and we have juridical system to taking care of it. That’s it! Let those juridical personnel deal with it, please.
    My personal opinion about discrimination on particular ethnic group: let’s put this issue aside! I don’t think there is any thing need to regulate about hate crime. Hate crime is a sin not a crime. We can punish someone say something hateful because it is a sin! Folks be strong! When someone slam you, just ignore the statement and bless them. You are living in a sinful world, what could you expect! Hate crime law is a dumb idea. I am saying it and plan not to take it back, period.

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    • adeleeeee
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:00am

      without hate crime, no left extremist can use it. Gosh… I don’t even sure if this case is really a hate crime case. That’s why hate crime stuff is stupid and needless!

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  • lukerw
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:51am

    The Radicals have… Usurped a Martyr for their Cause!

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  • LeadNotFollow
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:33am

    …
    Where’s the justice for the elderly white couple, Nancy and Bob Strait?
    They were brutally attacked by a young black man. It has barely made the news.

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    • kegbuna
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:45am

      The suspect is in custody and is facing first degree murder charges among others. Zimmerman hasn’t even been detained.

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    • LeadNotFollow
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:17am

      …
      I was referring to the way black on white crimes barely make the news.

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    • 13th Generation American
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:27am

      LEADNOTFOLLOW just look at the disparity of who is in prison. According to the US Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) non-Hispanic blacks accounted for 39.4% of the total prison and jail population in 2009.
      According to the 2010 census of the US Census Bureau blacks (including Hispanic blacks) comprised 13.6% of the US population.

      I’m sure that will put a smile on your face.

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    • LeadNotFollow
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:44am

      …
      Due to poor media coverage, only one suspect is in custody. The other suspects in Mrs. Strait’s rape and murder, have not been arrested.
      The police have stated, that there were probably at least FIVE attackers.
      If this story was being reported as heavily as the Trayvon Martin death, the other suspects would probably already be in custody.
      Until all of the murderers are apprehended, justice has not been done in Mrs. Strait’s murder case. Black on white crime doesn’t make big news, like white on black crime does.

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    • LeadNotFollow
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:49am

      13th Generation American…
      The reason so many minorities are in prison, is because they commit the majority of the violent crimes.

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  • flagkeeper
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:32am

    Why is no other news organization reporting this???
    The eye witness is afraid to show his face! Gee, I wonder what he is affraid of? Oh yeah, the sea of useful idiots marching for a cause they know exactly nothing about! This is angering.
    These videos are actual local news reporting the facts and evidence of the case.

    http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/022712-man-shot-and-killed-in-neighborhood-altercation#ixzz1phFMGCu4
    or this-

    http://news.yahoo.com/video/orlandowesh-16122564/sanford-police-speak-out-in-trayvon-martin-case-28640523.html#crsl=%252Fvideo%252Forlandowesh-16122564%252Fsanford-police-speak-out-in-trayvon-martin-case-28640523.html

    Justice??? That is interesting. If it is a justified shooting, then we already have it. Zimmerman should reconsider his apporach to neighborhood watch, and get more training, but I do appreciate a person willing to put himself on the line to protect his negihborhood, however ill-conceived the idea of following a 6′2“ ”child” in the middle of the night, in rain, and alone. Intentions amount to a hill of beans when “someone must pay”. BTW- justified does not mean the incident was unavoidable, smart, or ideal…just legal. People who take RTKBA as seriously as they should know what I mean.

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  • Apple Bite
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:30am

    I’ll say it now, Sharpton and the rest of those idiots are going to ride this clear into summer time. Florida have better do everything they can to shut it down and resolve this issue before we all regret this incident.

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  • Epic Fail
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:25am

    What about this story? You don’t see it in the media! Where are the marches for this murder. A black kid shoots and kills 2 white tourists IN FLORIDA!!!

    Teenager ‘gunned down two lost British tourists in Florida’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2118785/Teenager-gunned-British-tourists-Florida-handing-cash.html

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    • 13th Generation American
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:33am

      The reason this is making international headlines is because there is strong evidence of Police corruption because of the 911 tape. Zimmerman was told not to pursue this kid. Zimmerman murdered a kid who was returning from store to buy a soda and some candy. How in the heII would you feel if that was your child.

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    • flagkeeper
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:41am

      911 dispatchers will tell you avoid confrontation or even to put your weapon away, even if a burgaler is in your house! That part of the tape means nothing. The part that does mean something is that Trayvon‘s father said the voice screaming help was not his son’s!!! See the video i linked above.

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    • Choctaw25
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 7:00am

      That’s because it is illegal to arrest and/or charge a black who commits a crime against a white. That has been the Law of the Land for almost 40+ years.

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    • Epic Fail
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:02am

      Hey 13th Gen. How the hell would you feel if those two dead tourists were your sons?

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  • 13th Generation American
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:24am

    If Zimmerman is found guilty, Florida will execute him. He will be on death row for the next 20 years while the state gives him free medical, dental, feeds him 3 squares, educates him, provides a day room with television and all his legal fees.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 8:19am

      A 17 year old boy was executed and this is your reply. Sad.

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  • Mark0331
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:17am

    “..if I knew the way, I would take you home..”..even Garcia knew this..the ‘left’ would rather incite violence than talk about rational ideas..sad, pitiful angry volent ‘left..’

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:13am

    This will play right into the progressives and radicals (thus Obama’s) agendas for all it can be milked; they will stop at nothing in the matter and I do see a fair chance that someone will take the shooter down with violence and kill him outright. At that point, there is a greater chance of unrest breaking out and the matter escalating.

    Look for the Democrats at any time start to push massive legistlation on the matters of self defense rights and gun control laws by the score; all aimed at underminding the right to bear arms and our rights to self defense.

    As I tell people with my home in Az, any intruder daring to break into my apartment will be dragged out by his feet.

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    • 13th Generation American
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:26am

      A 17 year old boy was executed and this is your reply. Sad.

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    • sawbuck
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:40am

      No ..13 your idea that our government is so trust worthy..
      Your ignorance to what our founding fathers new about people in power.
      And your total lack of foresight .
      Do you really think people up in ivory towers give two shiots and a damn
      about this dead kid.
      No …They are going to use this incident to further agenda.
      And because of your total lack of understanding to my above comment ..
      That makes YOU the sad one .
      Better do a genealogy on you family..
      There’s an idiot or inbreeding somewhere in the chain .

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  • cookcountypatriot
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:13am

    shows who the real haters are…they are looking for an excuse to riot and cause mayhem and they are using this young man to justify thier hate…now whos the racists here i ask you?

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  • Mark0331
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:09am

    This ‘Man’ Farrakhan is ‘Catfish John’….be wary folks…

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  • Karama
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:03am

    This is all reminding me of what started the riots in London. They guy in London that was shot was a drug dealing thug but the media tried to hide it to make the looting and rioting look justified, calling him a “family man”. Who was this kid and was he more than just some innocent by standard?

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  • Karama
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:59am

    Have I missed something or is no one talking about the kids back ground? We are hearing plenty about the shooter but what about the kid? Was he a local thug that we haven’t yet heard about that was a routine problem?

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    • scruffycat
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:04am

      I bet he was out thieving to get stuff to take to the crack house on the corner to trade for crack.

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  • Itsjusttim
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:56am

    Oh no, no we don’t want redistribution of wealth, no. Really? If I have to pay for a highway in Iowa, guess what? That’s redistribution of wealth. If I have to pay for some old person to get medicare even though I myself will gracefully pass when it’s my time, then it’s Socialism, and redistribution of wealth. And to boot, here’s the kicker, many many old people have known the country would eventually collapse on their grandchildren but they thought “So what, I won’t have to deal with it” even though they don’t give a damn about it collapsing on their grandchildren who are paying taxes for their miserable old butts. Giving people medicare and Social Security is Socialism, and there is no picking and choosing. You either are or you are not! And if you are, then you deserve whatever monsters you have created that come out of hiding.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:17am

      Because here’s the thing: if you have once or twice in your life when you were younger stolen a candy bar or a few dollars, then you “Have” stolen before but you are not living by thievery. But if you redistribute wealth through Socialism for security reasons to people who don’t want to have to lose their life style, and you do it regularly to live, then you are ‘living’ through thievery.

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    • 13th Generation American
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:56am

      are you okay?

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    • greatgrandma
      Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:16am

      It was my understanding when Social Security was implemented that it was a privatized institution. Paid into by each individual and their employer.
      In the 60′s our democratic President LBJ, opened it up to the general funds. After that it was free game for the government to do what ever they wanted with it. So we have our government to blame for the way social security is handled, ( why they still call it social security is beyond me.) It is dished out to anybody whether they have put into it or not. Including illegal immigrants.

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  • blackyb
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:54am

    Louis Farrakhan is a self-serving man who really has appeared to plead causes he could really care less about. A cause is a cause for a white man as well as any other color. Black people are falling for his big mouth. He really makes me gag with his obvious deceit.

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  • blackyb
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:51am

    Louis Farrakhan is a big mouthed know-it-all who have been duping people for ages having them think he knows something. He is an opportunist who wants to be seen and heard and charge people who are stupid enough to pay him for appearances.

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  • blackyb
    Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:50am

    They will use anything to promote their agenda. They are a bunch of nosey big mouths who have nor do many of them want, jobs so they can go around yelling their big mouthed rhetoric. This man needs to be held accountable if he is in the wrong, but that is what we have courts for. These people do not represent the courts and should not be in a position to force enforcement. If it is obvious injustice is taking place there are sources to go to and not into the streets for every time they can push their black agenda or any agenda.

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