Invoking Saul Alinsky: Beck Explores Why Wisconsin Is ‘Ground Zero’ for Union Thuggery
- Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:00pm by
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As the three phases of “Political System X” run their course, Glenn Beck touched on the “mob-tactics” of Saul Alinksy being brought to bear in the mainstream arena — particularly where Wisconsin is concerned.
As Beck noted, Saul Alinsky turned to thugs to bring mob tactics into daily American life. His “approach to social justice,” in the words of the Washington Post, would come to rely on “generating conflict to mobilize the dispossessed.”
Mob tactics say: We will destroy your life, your family, intimidate your children and destroy your business unless you acquiesce. Beck drew correlation between this and the current landscape.
“This is exactly what is happening in Wisconsin”:
For those who haven‘t followed the state’s news closely, Wisconsin is fast-becoming what many consider ground-zero for union “thuggery.” A growing list of lawmakers, business owners and regular everyday employees are reporting they have been subject to any number of union-led pressure-tactics devised to secure collective bargaining rights and other benefits currently under review. The price for non-compliance? Go out of business…or worse.
Most are likely familiar with Governor Scott Walker, who faces recall on June 5 over his stance on public employee union reforms. Walker and the GOP majority, of course, ended the union’s compulsory dues, curbed bargaining rights, enacted pension and health care contributions and, above all, gave workers the freedom to choose whether to join a union or not. Michelle Malkin noted:
The Walker reform law helped prevent massive layoffs in public education by saving tens of millions of dollars in bloated benefits bills. Ending the state union monopoly on teachers’ health insurance plans allowed dozens of school districts to switch their coverage to more competitive bid
Needless to say, members of the Wisconsin State Employees Union, AFSCME Council 24, are none too pleased.
But Walker isn’t the only leader to come under fire. Three of the state’s GOP legislators — Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald, Sen. Van Wanggaard and Sen. Terry Moulton — also face recall and Sen. Pam Galloway is poised to step-down — a move the left applauds as it will leave the state legislature deadlocked. Another target is embattled Tea Party candidate Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch. A small business woman, mother of two and cancer survivor who has worked on economic development, reaping “untold dividends” for the state. If ousted, the move would mark the first-ever recall of a lieutenant governor in American history.
But lawmakers are obvious targets. How are everyday civilians feeling the effects?
Businesses must display a pro-union sign in their windows…or else:
Imagine you are a small business owner and are approached by AFSCME Council 24 and told to display a pro-union sign in your store window stating:”We support workers rights.“ There is no option to remain ”neutral.” If you do not comply, the union will organize protests and stage an ongoing boycott of your store until you are out of business.
That is the grim scenario being faced by small businesses across the state.
Members of AFSCME Council 24, have begun circulating letters to businesses in southeast Wisconsin, warning that they will face a boycott if they don’t support collective bargaining for public employee unions by displaying a union sign in their windows.
The letter states: ”Failure to do so will leave us no choice but (to) do a public boycott of your business…And sorry, neutral means ‘no’ to those who work for the largest employer in the area and are union members.”
Jim Haney, the outgoing head of Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce, said the union effort was horrifying.
“It’s kind of like the old protection racket,” he said. “ ’If you have the right sticker, we won’t break your knees.’ This is beyond the pale to force a small-business person to choose when they want to stay neutral. But that isn’t good enough.”
Fired for carrying a pro-Scott Walker sign in your vehicle?
An employee of a Janesville custodial company says she was fired for carrying a pro-Scott Walker sign in her car.
According to reports, 68-year-old Mary Taylor, who works for Diversified Building Maintenance, was on assignment at Whitewater High School — where her car was parked — when company officials learned that school faculty were discussing the sign. A supervisor then allegedly asked Taylor if she was willing to remove the sign or be assigned to another building. According to reports, Taylor regused both options and was terminated, only to be reinstated shortly thereafter.
Diversified Building Maintenance told the Journal Sentinel it planned to have Taylor back to work the second week of March. Whether she will ever be allowed to return to Whitewater High School remains unknown.
“Who complains about a bumper sticker?” Beck asked incredulously. “And who actually takes someone seriously when someone complains about a bumper sticker?”
“This woman was fired because she didn’t subscribe to union mentality… Oh, wait, she did get her job back but was moved to a different building.”
So for putting a bumper sticker on her car she was fired, re-hired and it is she who has to pack up her desk in shame and move?
This goes straight to the heart of reinforcing negative stereotypes about “evil conservatives.”
Issues arise over wearing a pro-Walker t-shirt at a Wisconsin bar:
Just this week a group of six visited Rox’s Bar and Grille in Pewaukee after spending the day at a pro-Walker rally. One of them was wearing a “Scott Walker is My Hero!” t-shirt.
According to a previous Blaze report, roughly an hour-and-a-half after arriving, as the group was on their way out, the same bouncer who had checked their identification at the front door then allegedly tod them that because of the Scott Walker shirt, they were no longer welcome to return. The bar owners, however, maintain that no member of the group was told not to return, only to refrain from wearing political or offensive t-shirts next time in order to “keep the peace” of the bar.
While there has been a showing of support for the pro-Walker group, one wonders what the backlash would be against the bar if someone wearing a pro-union shirt was told the same thing.
Even Wisconsin high school students are getting involved:
Upon entering the rotunda in Madison while in town for a basketball game, students of Sheboygan Lutheran High School encountered a pro-union protest taking place. Instead of retreating, however, the students rallied in unison as they chanted “stand with Walker” in order to drown out the union protesters.
Series of videos chronicles left-wing intimidation and scare-tactics:
The Workforce Fairness Institute is chronicling a series of left-wing pressure-tactics, including showing up at political adversaries’ homes to harass and intimidate them and their families. The video is featured below for reference and paints a disturbing picture. Caution, strong language contained:
Yet again, the picture adds up to Phase II:
“Look at their tactics!” Beck exclaimed. These are all tactics that hail straight from the progressive handbook — Saul Alinky’s Rules for Radicals.
Both President Obama and Hillary Clinton were students of Alinksy. Beck noted that “this so-called teacher of theirs” was the same person who actually dedicated his book to none other than:
“The first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer”
In the words of NRO’s John Fund, after studying criminology at the University of Chicago, Alinsky went into union organizing… and found it too tame.
Capone, a more suitable mentor:
If union organizing didn‘t stir Alinsky’s soul nor satiate his hankering for radical activism, he certainly ended up finding fertile group to cultivate his seeds of discontent in none other than the mob. In retrospect, however, the move makes sense.
Alinsky, who claimed he worked his way into Al Capone’s gang, becoming close to his top hit-man, “didn’t care what method” he used. “As long as it worked in the end.”
Proud of what he considered his achievement, Alinsky said he “learned a hell of a lot about the uses and abuses of power from the mob.”
“That should send chills up your spine,” Beck warned. “Because he means that in a ‘we should emulate this’ kind of way.”
It was from this experience Alinsky derived his greatest insight and formulated his tactics of brining the mob to the mainstream, according to Beck.
But if there were any doubts as to Alinsky’s ultimate goal, take into account the following quote:
“His approach to social justice relied on generating conflict to mobilize the dispossessed.”
Beck asked viewers to study that sentence and weigh it against the backdrop of what is currently underway. Generating conflict is a key component of Phase II, which The Blaze has been covering extensively.
Destroying people’s lives, tearing apart their families, intimidating their children and crippling their business is how people can be made to “fall in line,” Beck explained.
Alinsky’s approach was distinctive, and, as Americans can see now, is being replicated. According to Fund: “He [Alinsky] deployed pickets to the homes of slumlords and used megaphones to hurl insults at them; he dumped trash on the front step of a local alderman to demand better garbage collection; he flooded stockholder meetings with raucous protesters, a tactic Occupy Wall Street is emulating; and he tied up bank lines with people who exchanged loads of pennies for $100 bills and vice versa. He boasted that knowledge of his tactics often led to preemptive surrender by local officials or businesses.”
Examples applied:
Beck used the example of the current Obamacare debate, saying it was “jammed down America’s throat” despite the fact that the majority of Americans did not want it, nor did supporters of the bill like the way it was drafted.
These tactics are also represented in the mainstream media, where anyone who disagrees is mocked, painted an ignorant troglodyte, “shamed” and branded a “hatemonger or bigot.”
Of course, this methodology, according to Beck, is also painfully apparent in the tactics of a Louis Farrakhan, who used intimidation — even murder — regularly to swing the pendulum in his favor.
Unions are often the prime propagators, however, as they have routinely targeted individuals. Take for example mobbing the home of a bank executive and scaring his child who was home alone. Beck noted the child was hiding in the bathroom in complete fear of the angry mob at this front door.
And this, Beck said, is the same type of intimidation being perpetuated in Wisconsin presently.
Recalling the case cited above in which small business were told to display a pro-union sign or face boycott and thus, liquidation, Beck noted the scenario sounds eerily familiar to a storyline from an old mob-movie or the real life actions of Al Capone.
Now recall who was influenced by Al Capone and was most influential in devising the tactics unions and community organizers — including the president — employ routinely.
Adding up?
Bringing it back to Wisconsin:
“These are the same big labor thugs who want to oust the Governor Scott Walker over his collective bargaining reform law,” Beck blasted.
It’s “obvious” then, that his supporters would too, have a “target” on their back.
As Malkin wrote: “President Obama, the AFL-CIO, SEIU, AFSCME and left-wing operatives know that Wisconsin is Ground Zero in their battle against limited-government activists. Their demagogic propaganda war against Wisconsin GOP Rep. Paul Ryan, who is leading entitlement reform and budget discipline efforts in Washington, is of a piece with the campaign to overturn the popular elections that put Walker, Kleefisch and the GOP majority in place. If they can chill fiscal responsibility and free market-based reforms in Wisconsin, they can chill it everywhere. Will movement conservatives let them?”
Beck reminded that this is yet another instance where progressives are fanning the flames of chaos. Their modus operandi: If you can’t convince, you silence and neutralize.
He urged that it is time for the Tea Party to rally around Wisconsin. We must expose this “evil” behavior.”
Do not comply:
Beck urged America not to allow the unions to bully us and to be vigilant of their tactics and methods of operation.
“We need to keep exposing the union thugs and their disgusting behavior.”
“Tell the unions: I will not comply.”
Beck promised viewers that there will be options moving forward to help Americans get more involved as there is much to be done leading up to the election.
You “may change the next election,” he said.
Outlived its usefulness:
There was a time, some argue, when unions were needed in this country. But the exploited can quickly become the exploiters when their power and influence — from the halls of Washington to the steel mills of Pittsburgh — is allowed to grow unchecked.
Watch Glenn’s segment here:
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Comments (130)
BehindBlueEyes
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 6:10amThe unions have a cult like mentality. They have brainwashed their members into believing that if you bully people and create fear in them they will all fall in line and do as told. This is the type of mentality/culture you get in the middle east, Russia, North Korea, etc.
Report Post »Bill Rowland
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 7:33amThese tactic border on criminal action. Under another administration the DOJ woud be investigating the intimidation and threats against businesses and individuals. Holdup and the FBI will not act because the Unions are big backers of Sweet Old Barack and if a election is allowed to occur, they want these same tactics used on voters.
Watch the other hand.
OMG 2012
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:44amBill-
Report Post »“under another administration the DOJ woud be investigating the intimidation and threats against businesses and individuals”
Hate to break it to you, it wold not change. The Unions have been doing this stuff since they were first formed. There is no justice against them. Only the people can decide to not take it and strike back, the government will not help.
quickstudy
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:45pmAnd the mob.
Report Post »fishmagnet
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 2:02pmThe unions made America the greatest country on this planet. They created a middle class that was able to pull it self up by its boot straps and make a good living, educate their children and give back to the community. And do it in a safe and protected environment. Are they perfect? Not in a million years. Just name one organization that accomplished as much as unionization for the working class in this country. The stanards set by unions brought up all our wages and gave us 40 hour work weeks. How any working any working middle class American can shun unions is beyond stupid. My father was a union machinist for 40 years and is now 96 and still recieves a very modest pension. He spent his life working to make his company a success. Unions bring employees up through the ranks creating better workers and loyal employees. That is why are country made the best products in the world. We get rewarded for our parents work by sending many of our middle class jobs overseas. That is one of the main reasons unemployment will hover around 9% for years to come. God save our country and unions save our jobs.
BehindBlueEyes
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 6:30am@FISHMAGNET
Report Post »I agree with what you said about some of the contributions the unions have made. But that is history and now we have reality. Unions have become one of the cogs in the progressive money laundering scheme. They support violence, intimidation and bulling to achieve their objectives. Sounds like Saul Alinsky tactics to me.
We‘re not stupid and can see and hear what’s going on.
Cat_Ion
Posted on April 1, 2012 at 12:52amre: Bill Rowland’s comment:
Report Post »Yes! The RICO laws would seem to apply. Racketeering at its best!
old construction worker
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 6:00amOne of the first thing Russia did when it became communist was to band unions. Then the communist leaders change their new “Constitution” to reflect that not “all communists are equal” some communist are more equal than others. I came across a great quote that defines communism:
Report Post »The few ruling the collective slaves.
MammalOne
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 2:39amI live in Madison, WI so I’m in the heart of this mess (I know, I know, it’s not a permanent move. It‘s just for a temporary project I’m collaborating with at the university). I certainly see a lot of businesses downtown with “we support WI families” etc. union propaganda signs in windows but it’s not even the majority that do. People still frequent all of the shops, maybe the useful union idiots are boycotting these shops but most people are not. There are, of course, a million progressives running around with “recall walker” shirts and stickers and the unions stage marches and rallies every month or so but the tension is not as bad as Glenn is making it out to be.
Report Post »Funny thing is, I‘m considered a state employee working for the university so Walker’s union busting directly affects me. The devastating impact – I pay $40/mo for really good (and expensive) health care as opposed to $25 before the bill. I’m fine with paying $15/mo more for health insurance if it means I can take a burden off of the taxpayers – they all really need it in this state. People yell at me all the time about Scott Walker and I can only laugh at them because most are not public sector or union employees – they’re not even affected by it, I am. And really, it’s been for the better. I have more freedom as a worker, not less as they frequently try to convince me.
The whole thing is a joke, I can’t wait to move out of this moronic town/state.
SheriS
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:08amAt one point in my life I was involved in an activity that took me to Wisconsin. Some of the people were among the most hostile people I ever met. After a couple of trips and being treated less then kindly, I gave up and stopped going into the state. There is an arrogance there that is not respectful of outsiders. This was way before the unions ran the state!
Report Post »surchen
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:09amAre you kidding? A “devastating impact” of only $15 more per month for health insurance? OMG! Maybe you should join the rest of us non-union folks for a while. We pay $645 a month for a family of three, with a $6,000 deductible. Who is paying for who’s healthcare?
Report Post »MammalOne
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:18am@SURCHEN
Report Post »Yes, I was being sarcastic. My point was that the impact of Walker’s reform had such a little impact on state employees to elicit such a disproportionate response. The taxpayers pick up the other $500 for my health insurance.
MammalOne
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:24amAnd, i’m not in a union. thanks to walker, I have the choice to not be extorted by these criminals.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:47amThanks for your perspective MAMMALONE
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:02pmMAMALONE..that was the point…union benefits were contributing to bankrupting the state, Walker asked unions to pay more for their benefits because it was fiscally irresponsible to support their benefits as they stood and go broke in the process…. and it’s STILL less than the private sector pays.
Here‘s some facts about how Walker’s curbing of public sector unions has dramactically helped Wisconsin :
“We’re turning things around; we’re heading in the right direction,” Walker said, noting the state has added “thousands” of jobs over the past year, fixed a $3.6 billion budget gap and bolstered Medicaid funding by $1.2 billion, all while cutting property taxes and avoiding public employee job cuts.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/274360/wisconsins-reforms-are-already-working-christian-schneider
Report Post »Miltownie
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:19pmMadison =/= the entire state of Wisconsin. Don’t judge all of us based on your experiences in a small corner of the state. Over the past 2 years, we replaced a democratic governor, a democratic senator, and we re-elected one of our strongest conservative Supreme Court justices. Hardly what you would expect based on media reports. It is too bad that you’ve had to experience the craziness that is going on in Madison, but don’t hold it against the silent majority. Most of us express our opinions at the polls, rather than on the streets.
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 11:45amYesterday I fasted and prayed for the USA. This morning I asked Jesus, “why are there so many truly hateful people out there, especially in Wisconsin and Chicago, New York, etc.?”
Who are these people trying take away our freedom as citizens of the best country on earth?
They want to give us no choices, and if we don’t play ball in their court, they want to burn our stores down, threaten our families and other strong-armed tactics. This Allinsky character learned from the best in Chicago, Capone, and actually went on to be the grandfather of hate, fear and corruption within our society.
Who wants to be controlled? If you like your freedom to think for yourselves, vote very carefully. Check them out. Don‘t be fooled like we’ve been so often, only now it’s worse than ever.
Report Post »sillyfreshness
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:28amSaul Alinksy, yet another leftist, Bolshevik Jew. Are we finally starting to notice a pattern here yet people? Saul Alinsky, Roseanne Bar, Bill Maher, Sean Penn……what do they all have in common? They are all flaming leftists, Marxists and all Jews. Bolshevism is tied to Jews. Where you find Bolsheviks, you find Jews and where you find Jews, you find Bolsheviks. You Blazers can go on and on how you love Jews because you’re a Bible thumper and they are “chosen folks”, but it doesn’t take away from the fact that Jews are the driving force behind communism, Marxism, socialism, and Bolshevism. Anything leftist and degenerate, like Hollywood, is ran by Jews. Any questions?
Report Post »MammalOne
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 2:41amThe only question I have is when were you planning on trading your nazi uniform for a history book?
Report Post »sillyfreshness
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:03pmSo pointing out the truth makes me a Nazi? I’ll admit, not all Jews are Bolsheviks, but about 90% of them are, so practically all.
Report Post »Wat Tyler
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 1:40amIf I’m not mistaken, Karl Marx was Jewish…
Report Post »Quixotic-911
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 2:00pmBut the Nazis and the Commies slaughtered the Jews! They are also one of the smallest most persecuted ethnic groups on earth. Personally, I think that you are suffering from the same disease as the OWSers, burning envy.
Report Post »Wat Tyler
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 6:57pm“…Personally, I think that you are suffering from the same disease as the OWSers, burning envy…”
Didn’t Marie Antoinette make a similar statement about eating cake before she got hers?
The people who constitute the backbone of a nation see themselves being systemically robbed by an elite parasite class, and it’s envy?
Soon all of us will have all the “envy” we can handle…
Report Post »AmericanWomanRestored
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 10:59pmThere is also a story circulating that a pro-Walker supporter’s dog was killed by union thugs. It’s getting kind of scary here.
Report Post »ReallyAUnionGuy
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:19amAs a Union member, I can attest to the truth of this article. I have been fighting this fight for sometime now, from the inside. There are a lot of our members that “quitely” or secretly support what I have been trying to accomplish. The tactics work unfortunately because for the life of me I can not get them to “come out”, because they see what our so called leaders have done to me and the very very few couragous individuals who have. They fear for their jobs, and their reputations. Its difficult, its stressful, but in the end it must be done. I pray for our future.
http://www.firefightersforfreedom.blogspot.com
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:59amI feel the most concise end all argument to public sector unions is Andrew Klavan’s video
Report Post »Behold! Your Public Sector Unions at Work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su4PwZCWUdg
Chrison
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 3:00am@REALLYAUNIONGUY: Tell your fellow union members that the reason the union bosses can trample on the few who do stand up is because of the many who remain silent out of fear. It’s no good to say “I don’t like this, but I won’t say anything” because that just perpetuates the evil.
It’s time that union members start demanding that the intimidation, both internal and external, stop! It’s YOUR union, folks… NOT the union bosses! It’s YOUR dues, so you have both the obligation AND right to demand that your money isn‘t used to intimidate and oppress people just because they may disagree with the union’s position.
Unions originated as a result of oppressive bosses but now it’s the unions that are the oppressors! How ironic!
Report Post »johncinque
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:24amhttps://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=207512005930324
i have been fighting from the inside also…for a long time…..not all union members are marxist’s…but many are and they dont even know it
Report Post »ReallyAUnionGuy
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 2:35pm@Chrison I have been doing that, the momentum is growing, but the leadership does not play by the rules and we have to, so as soon as we finish building the evidence for a case against them, hopefully we will be able to remove them, since they do not follow the rules we can use that against them, but its taking time.
@John Cinique I read your letter and it ws like I was talking to myself, I sent you a friend request on FB, lets connect, I think we would have much to discuss.
http://www.firefightersforfreedom.blogspot.com
Report Post »ALPHA18BRAVO
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 10:49pm@JZS
The number of signatures is not over 1 million as claimed by many recall supporters. The pages that were turned in for the recall process would have amounted to over 1 million signatures if all of the petitions were completely filled out. These pages were not all full. An independent group has created a database of all the signatures. However, the GAB has deemed that their findings are not allowed to challenge the recall. The work they did is quite helpful, and allows people to search for names of the recall signers. The totals are as follows:
860,155 total signatures on the petitions.
35,483 incomplete or indecipherable signatures
14,287 signed out of the date range
4,683 were from out of state
6,035 were duplicates
2,590 are potentially fictitious
212,628 are illegible, possibly false, mismatched or otherwise compromised signatures
This is far from the “over 1 million” signatures that the recall campaign claims. Wisconsin has had great success despite what the recall supporters are claiming. The state is heading in the right direction. By the time that the recall election occurs, there will be even more growth. This recall will fail. Many people will not be intimidated by the tactics being used.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:30pmALPHABRAVO…JZS just recites what media matters tells him to recite. He doesn’t think, he just does as he’s instructed to do. He’s same the clownshoes that posted links to “polls” put together by Soros funded Obama appointees along with “studies” done by Planned Parenthood’s research arm. JZS is a somnambulistic, lefty cretin who just does and says what his keepers tell him to do and say.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 1:24pmALPHA18BRAVO, okay. I‘ll accept your information and won’t quibble. What is your source BTW? You realize he’s being recalled right?
JERK – who are the Soros funded Obama appointees? How does Soros “fund” them – does he pay their salary or living expenses or something? Have you still not come up with any original insults? Maybe you should go to insults.com or something.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 1:49pmYou’re such an idiot JZS. I‘ve repeated this to you numerous times and you’re pulling the same “who..what Soros?” routine again? David Sapperstein- Obama appointee who’s PRRI “poll” you linked to in an attempt to appear credible about contraception use by catholic women. David Sapperstein sits on a board funded by Soros and the Tides Foundation. The Guttmacher Institute is the ‘study” you linked to (before we continue we must remember..these are all Media Matters issued) recently. It’s the research arm of Planned Parenthood. A more partisan and skewed collection of highly questionable data one couldn’t ask for. But that’s what Media Matters told you to say JZS and you being the mindless lefty cretin you are…obliged them robotically. Idiot.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 1:53pmYou’re an idiot JZS..I’m not insulting you..I’m just stating a fact. You ARE an idiot. If someting is triangular and you try to say it’s oval shaped..you’re not being factual or accurate. You’re not describing it accurately. I call you an idiot because there’s no better word to describe you, it’s the clearest most accurate description of you and your offerings here..you ARE an idiot.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 5:06pmJerk, exactly what position does this “Obama appointee” have in the administration? Seriously is he, like, Surgeon General or what? What did Obama appoint him to? Maybe you spelled his name wrong.
I understand the guy is Jewish (like Alynsky, Soros, Piven etc). Is that why you don’t like him?
Okay, so George Soros is a supporter Tides, which support some other organization this guy is part of. So what? Is it bad to be on the board of an organization? So when do I hear what’s bad about this guy? Aren’t you part of an organization too? At least have a job?
I have heard of the Tides Foundation though. They were the group that the Beck inspired wannabe mass murder went after: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/30/AR2010073003254.html
What I don‘t understand is why you don’t seem to mind a Byron Williams type character, but are really upset about this Sapperstein guy, who has done exactly what that offends you?
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 6:58pmJZSaul,
Your street punk persona is showing itself lately.
What has happened to highly educated, above the fray, professorial persona that we all disliked so much?
Here is is what he was appointed to,
“In February 2009, he was named to President Obama’s Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships. Saperstein lives in Washington, D.C. with his wife, former National Public Radio vice president for news Ellen Weiss.”
That is from your favorite source.
But why are you deflecting and not addressing what Avengerk was talking about, namely the poll you linked to? More Alinsy tactics JZSaul.
You have attacked Avengerk without adding anything of any substantial value to the argument. You have supplied no information at all that refutes his points. Just your childish schoolyard taunts in the style of “oh yea…….I know you are but what am I”
You are becoming unhinged JZSaul.
Why don’t you relax and peruse the link I posted about the “war on women”
Might give you a few chuckles. But then again, maybe not.
Report Post »ALPHA18BRAVO
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 12:24amJZS- I apologize. The source came from an independent study done by an organization of volunteers that entered all of the petitions into a database. You can look at the information at verifytherecall.com. The searchable database is iverifytherecall.com.
Report Post »I also think that I was clear about the recall happening. My point was to shed some light on the numbers. You can bet that the duplicates and other challenges to the signatures will be followed by criminal charges. Falsifying recall petitions is a crime. The recall is happening, but it’s not over.
I also find it comforting that Walker is not challenging the recall petitions. I think that it shows leadership that once the recall movement collected the “possible” signatures he chose to let the voters decide in the election.
A little over 2 million people voted in the election of Scott Walker. 1 million of those votes went to Walker’s opponent. The other million plus went to Walker. I know of a few people that voted for Walker originally that will not be voting again. I can assume that there are many more like them. However, I know of many people that did not vote at all during the last election that will be voting during the recall and they will be supporting Walker. I have no doubt that this election will be close. Wisconsin elections always are. But as Wisconsin elections go 5% win over his opponent is quite a victory. I do believe that Walker will retain if not exceed his prior amount of votes, and repeat his 5% win
Tankertony
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 10:26pmThe unions backs are being broken, and there is not a damn thing they can do about it.
Report Post »America is on to them. Truth and righteousness shall triumph.
Realitybytes
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 10:24pmJZS, You are from Wisconsin, so am I. The population is over 5 million. Walker won the election. You really think teachers and other public employees voted for him in the first place? Stop whining you moron, most love what he is doing. Get a life– what are you going to do when he wins the recall? Recall the recall, how about recall the recall that called the recall. Shut the he$$ up for Christs sake. You lost. In 4 years, if he is so bad, the ******** will win.
Report Post »Realitybytes
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 10:26pmPS, the people of Wisconsin did decide. Walker won!!!! Get a life.
Report Post »MammalOne
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 2:47amThe system works after all.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 1:28pmRealitybytes, nope, not from Wisconsin. However, it does look like +10% of the population signed the recall petitions. Walker may win, he sure going to have the money from the rich people inside and outside the state. Anyway, you seem a little ill-tempered today. Is everything alright? I hope so.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 2:03pmREALITYBITES…with a 5 million population JZS actually tried to sell the idiocy that 1 million signed the recall petition. So what was once one fifth of Wisconsin’s population by the duplicitious and slimy Media Matters troll JZS…he now is trying to sell as “10%+” after being proven the lying sack of lefty excrement he is. I keep saying it here..NOTHING JZS says should be believed or taken at face value. All the idiot offers is Media Matters approved talking points. He keeps getting caught out and keeps coming back with more lies and misdirections. Just the slimiest, dumbest piece of lefty filth you could ever meet.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 12:47amAVENPERP, I think what I admire most about your intelligence and maturity, you’re ability to to absorb, assess, and then rationally respond to post with a well reasoned, objective response. Your advanced education and intelligence is obvious with every post you make. I learn from you and, to be honest, admire your intellectual gifts.
However, I have to, humbly, disagree with your post. When you refer to the “filth of Wisconsin’s population” I have to object to that. The people of Wisconsin are not “filth” as you so boldly and brazenly claim. Maybe you can explain why the entire population of Wisconsin is “filth”?
While you’re at it maybe you can tell us all why the million people who signed the recall petitions (okay, maybe 800.000) are “idiots, liars, and slimy.“ And please explain why you love the word ”excrement” so much. You use it in almost every post, kind of an OCD thing. Any reason you are so particularly fond of that word? Does it have some special meaning to you, perhaps one you’re not willing to share here? Sounds a little Freudian, but perhaps you can explain you’re understanding of that concept, at least if you’re willing. No pressure.
Report Post »Robert999
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 10:14pmUnions are nothing but Communist organizations that attack capitalism by interfering with the free marketplace. All unions MUST be made illegal. We need to get back to the way it was before Commies/Progressives like Theodore Roosevelt changed things and began surrendering to the Commies.
You know those states like Wisconsin and Minnesota are full of Commies. It goes back a long time to people like Robert La Folette who made war on American capitalism by attacking corporations and switched from the Republican to the Progressive Party. These kind of people don’t care how much damage they do as long as they can attack God, America, capitalism and Republicans.
Report Post »fishmagnet
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 5:13pmYes, lets get back to the good old days when people worked six twelve hour days a week for next to nothing. Oh, I think we might already be threre! How about a nice sweat shop for you with no fire exits and no breaks and forget about lunch. Those were the days my friend.
Report Post »geowand
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 10:02pmThat’s why you NEED to visit Wisconsin Glenn!!!
Report Post »FlowerBell
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:48pmI am convinced Obama studied the constitution in college and became “constitutional law senior lecturer” not because he loved it but rather to discern how to eviscerate it with surgical precision. —
Report Post »—— Republican party, stand up for the American people!
MrMagoo
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:38pmGreat article!Thanks Tiffany Gabbay and Glenn Beck!
Report Post »We need a nationwide public accessible internet database of businesses who are being >targeted< by these Thugs,no matter how big or small it is.From the state to the county,to the town.We can't counter-protest if we don't know who is being specifically targeted.I'd like to know what businesses are being threatened in my immediate area,for instance.I'd be damn happy to spend my dollars there and let everyone I know -why- the business needs our support,other than normal,daily purchases.
Where there's a union thug,there's a citizen who can counter react,LIVE.There's many more CITIZENS out here than there are -thugs-.Union or otherwise.
I know GB is launching Marketplace on Markdown.com also.I'm looking forward to it!
Annika2011
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:31pmWilma, you Father is right. They are mobsters and worse…
Report Post »Look at who their (Alinsky) book is dedicated to. Lucifer.
Thanks Glenn for pointed that out.
Our President once taught Alinsky as a professor.
Mrs. Clinton wrote her college thesis on this.
Nice leaders. I looked up RULES FOR RADICALS online.
We should all know these. Liberals use them all the time.
Especially name calling.(ridicule)
ShyLow
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:20pmLocust army
Report Post »SpeckledPup
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:16pmbut the real thug in chief is obama —-and it began long before he ever ran for IL senator.
Report Post »cookcountypatriot
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:58pmif the people of wisconsin fall for this crap…they will get what they deserve,,taxed like crazy and seriously cheesy people
Report Post »jzs
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:39pmFirst of all, who the f is Saul Alinsky? http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-maher-wants-to-know-who-the-fk-is-saul-alinsky/
Second, who the f is Francis Priven?
All the above is really scary. OMG all the thuggery and scary people and intimidation!
Sorry people, that’s BS. Over a million people signed a petition to recall Walker, way beyond what was legally required by Wisconsin law. Why? Walker did the old bait and switch, running on one platform, then took office and immediatly waged war on working men and women, teachers, firefighters, the police (indirectly) and others.
The people who voted for his opponent are not going to vote for him this time around. And many of those people who voted for him the first time realize he is working against their interests.
Please folks, don’t even pretend that the million people who signed up to recall Walker are fools or somehow not representative of the average person in Wisconsin. The Koch brothers will do their best and spend as much money as they can to prevent Walker from losing his office. But in the end? The people of Wisconsin will decide.
Report Post »Amma K
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:50pmMr. JZS – first false fact you state is that over 1 million people signed the recall petition. If you do a little fact checking you will find your number to be over estimated. Second, as one of these so called “cheesy” people I am sick of the way the out of state unions have trampled our state. I know many people who did not vote for Scott Walker the first time around who will be voting for him in this recall because the reforms he put in place are working! I for one applaud him for the courage it took to go against the almighty unions and do what was in the best interest of ALL the people of Wisconsin – not just the ones with the biggest and loudest mouths (or drums, horns, etc.).
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 10:53pmAnd JZSaul,
Your banking on Walker losing gives me the warm fuzzies.
With your dismal record of prognostication, that can only mean Walker will win in a landslide.
Let see, there was, FOX NEWS was going to be dethroned due to the…….what was it again………oh yea, the British phone hacking scandal. That one really had legs didn’t it?
Then just recently, Rush was going to be left sponsor-less over the Fluking affair.
Too many others too recount.
Sucks to be you lately, huh?
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 11:07pmJZSAUL,
My other post was deleted for some reason.
So I’ll condense and try it again.
You purposely misspell “PRIVEN” twice in the last two weeks to lend credence to your claim that you never heard of her. Sad, just sad.
As for Alinsky, you should know who he is, being the well read read, college educated, storied poster that you are. But if you need your memory jogged, here…………..
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/Hillary%20Clintons%20hidden%20thesis.html
Wonder why they hid it from us when Willy was running?
Report Post »SpeckChaser
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 11:20pmJZS
You should pursue a career in comedy with the “whole the f is this, who is f is that” routine. You know what that sounds like? It sounds like, “Roaches, what the f is a roach? Wasn’t aware of them until some crazy person turned on my lights!
You say you don’t know who Saul is yet use the exact tactics highlighted in his book. Yawn.
Did you catch the irony in your post? No one would even know who all these radicals are if not for beck. There irrelevant. They can’t affect anything. No one pays them any mind. But oh yea, beware of the Koch brothers. They are single handedly destroying the country. They have their hands in everything. They are using their money and power to blah blah blah…
Report Post »SpeckChaser
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 11:27pmHey Billy
I think since JZS is pleading complete ignorance on Saul someone should go ahead and point out the specific rules from Rules for Radicals he uses in his post, by sheer coincidence of course, and educate him. What you think brother?
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:27amHi Speckchaser,
Report Post »Good catch on “beware of the Koch brothers”.
I’ll take a shot.
He starts out with a dose of #5 by mockingly insinuating that we are afraid of the “scary” people that don’t really even exist. Then backs it up with a link to Bill Maher, who adds more sarcasm and ridicule. Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.
Then when he starts on the Walker recall, he shifts to rule #1 by grossly overestimating the number of signers of the petitions. This is to discourage the opposition by demoralization.
Rule 1: Power is not only what you have, but what an opponent thinks you have. If your organization is small, hide your numbers in the dark and raise a din that will make everyone think you have many more people than you do.
Then of course, he always revels in rule #6, as proven by his continued attacks on anything that is Right. Most are untrue, but he keeps plugging away out of sheer enjoyment.
Rule 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. “If your people aren’t having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic.”
His other favorite not used in this post is #4 whenever the topic is religion or Christianity.
Rule 4: Make opponents live up to their own book of rules. “You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”
Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 2:01amAnd of course there is usage of #8 on a continuing basis by constantly hammering away at us day in and day out.
Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all events of the period for your purpose. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.
Just used #11 today by picking and identifying the KOCH brothers as a target. Uses it often against Rush, Sarah Palin, Allen West, etc.
And JZS, if you are reading this, I have noticed, and have also heard others here mention recently that your posts are losing some of their usual flair and creativity. They come across as robotic and stale.
I fear that you may be falling victim to rule #7. You have been at this game for quite some time now.
Rule 7: A tactic that drags on for too long becomes a drag. Commitment may become ritualistic as people turn to other issues.
Report Post »Banter
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 4:12am@TheRightsofBilly
I suspect our beloved JZS is still trying to figure out what truck just ran him over. Well done sir!
BTW, I did give JZS credit for flair in the story about Spector’s fascination with Palin, for his clever use of sexual imagery to describe the beautiful Sarah. But, he never did answer me if his use of the word “twatter” was a freudian slip.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:39am@BANTER
You know, you are right.
Even though that previous Palin post of his made considerable use of rule #5, It was creative & clever.
I’ll give him that.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:53amJZS….you’re not unique in your “who is Saul Alinksy” tactic. I see it alot from lefty kooks like you. You don’t like your tactics and the people behind them being exposed to the light of scrutiny. You’re the same kook that posts links to media matters while telling others here not to stick to “right wing” sources. You’re the same kook who robotically began reciting the media matters line that “W” approved the Solyndra loan deal. We know of course that Obama approved it in 2009 and not only approved it but fast-tracked it and subordinated the loan guranatees making sure his campaign backer had his investment in Solyndra protected while the tax payer was left holding the bill. During the “war on women” campaign you offered links to polls put together by Obama appointees and Planned Parenthood’s research arm. In purgatory, Goebbels cries a tear of joy each time you post. You’re not a bright person, in fact you’re an idiot of olympian proportions. The fact that you keep returning here (as ordered by your keepers) to offer puerile slabs of lefty rote, over and over, is testament to your utter and complete marination in lefty thought. To take anything you say at face value is to take the word of not only a complete idiot…but of a hopelessly indoctrinated one.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 1:42pmHey AVENGERK
Speaking of the war on women, You gotta check out this site.
http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/tales-from-the-war-on-women-t8608.html
Report Post »jzs
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 1:44pmSPECK, perhaps you’d care to give me an example of one of the Alinsky tactics I use. Then I’ll learn something and point out in the future every time you use that “tactic.”
Okay on wiki there’s something interesting stuff. It says “William F. Buckley said he was ‘very close to being an organizational genius.’” Awesome. To bad the right doesn’t actually have an intellectual heavyweight like Buckley anymore.
It says he’s Jewish, which explains why Beck hates the guy. All of Beck’s “worst people in the world” are Jewish.
I like this quote from wiki: Alinsky once explained that his reasons for organizing in black communities included: “Negroes were being lynched regularly in the South as the first stirrings of black opposition began to be felt, and many of the white civil rights organizers and labor agitators who had started to work with them were tarred and feathered, castrated—or killed. Most Southern politicians were members of the Ku Klux Klan and had no compunction about boasting of it.”
I guess that explains why a lot of people don’t like him.
Also, “Adam Brandon, a spokesman for the conservative non-profit organization FreedomWorks, which is one of several groups involved in organizing Tea Party protests, says the group gives Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals to its top leadership members.”
It also say Dick Armey gives his book to Tea Party leaders. Awesome.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 1:48pmAnd make sure to keep scrolling down, lots of good stuff there.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 1:52pmHey JZSaul,
I didn’t know you were back.
You might also enjoy the link I recommended to AVENGERK.
And this one is for you. Enjoy.
http://www.libertymind.com/
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 2:09pmRIGHTSOFBILLY…that site’s hysterical. You can almost here the “take that Tojo” voiceover you hear on those newsreels played in movie theatres during the war.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 2:58pmoops Typo: You can almost “hear”….bloody terrible proof reading.
Report Post »Banter
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 3:06pmHey JZS,
“SPECK, perhaps you’d care to give me an example of one of the Alinsky tactics I use.”
I’m fairly certain Billy took you to task on all of them. Enjoy reading his post over and over again, maybe you will learn something.
BTW, I still want to know if you meant “twitter” or “twatter” in your Sarah/Arlen post. Easily one of your most creative posts, so choose wisely.
Report Post »SpeckChaser
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 7:10pmJZS
Please refer to Billy’s post concerning you implementation of tactics from Rules for Radicals. I think he has your hat by the way. You should ask if he would be so kind as to hand it to you.
I do find your break down on Saul fascinating. I would also tell any lawyers reading to consider that defense for future case’s It could go something like this…
Prosecutor: Isn’t it true that you witnessed the defendant committing the felony in question?
Witness: Yes.
Prosecutor: To clear “wrong guy” theories, wasn’t the defendant detained while in the act of committing the felony?
Witness: Yes.
Prosecutor: No further questions
Lawyer for the defense: Are you aware that wiki is reporting the defendant is opposed to lynchings?
Witness: No.
Lawyer: Are you also aware that he is Jewish?
Witness: No.
Lawyer: Are you aware that he once removed a turtle from a busy street in turn saving the animals life?
Witness: No, but how does any of this pertain to the investigation at hand?
Lawyer: My client has a minimum of at least the positive traits. I motion to have this case thrown out.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:38pmFirst of all, I’d like to thank you for cluing me into the Saul Alinsky “tactics” being used by Freedom Works and the Tea Party groups they support as well as Dick Armey and the Tea Party groups his money making organization supports. Know your enemy! I appreciate that William F. Buckley, the consecrative intelligent giant lauded the genius of Saul Alinsky. I‘m sure that Buckley’s heir apparent, Sarah Palin, agrees too.
I’m starting to “connect the dots.” For one, the evil people who are trying to destroy our country are all Jews: Alinsky, Soros and Piven. Beck’s mentioned other Jews trying to destroy our country, like Freud, but that’s a good starting list. So Jews are trying to destroy our country according to you guys. I finally get that.
Connecting the same dots I see those people share another characteristic: they want to help poor black people. Alinsky helped organize blacks for Civil Rights, and Piven wrote a summary of the efforts of conservatives to disenfranchise blacks from the Civil War to the present, and wrote other things in support of the poor. Soros donates money to organization that support the poor, just as the Koch brothers donated money to people who help the rich.
http://planetsave.com/2011/02/17/soros-vs-koch-brothers-infographic/
I get it. You hate Jewish people, and people who support the poor, especially if they are black.
Thanks for your help boys!
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:11pmHey Speckchaser,
You have outdone yourself. You speak truth mixed with humor. I’m still chuckling.
I happily pass JZS’s hat over to you. Be warned though, do not remove it from the ziplock bag.
Hey JZSaul,
Did you not grasp the subtle, but powerful message in Speckchasers post?
Your reply did nothing but further re-enforce his point, and deepen the hole you are digging for yourself.
And just a clue here. When posting on the internet, and talking to people that you really know nothing about, it’s best not to make racially charged statements regarding if someone hates Jewish, or Black people. How do you know if any of us are either one, or both. Not cool dood.
Report Post »Banter
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 2:44amHey JZS
You have been deeply schooled by Billy and Speck, accept it and learn something.
As I have said to you in the past, you need to read “The 5000 Year Leap”, and apply what you learn at least as well as you do from “Rules for Radicals”. Your ‘agent provocateur from the left’ schtick isn’t working out so well for you.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 10:42amBanter, schooled? Well, let’s see. I have learned that if devote your life to helping poor black people that makes you a bad person, despite anything William F. Buckley might say. And if your also Jewish, that makes people like you hate them.
I’ve also learned that the Alynski wrote some sort of Tea Party Bible on organizing. Yes, I think I’ve learned a lot!
Report Post »SpeckChaser
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 11:08amJZS
Exploit – To take advantage of (a person, situation, etc), esp unethically or unjustly for one’s own ends.
I believe you accidentally used “help, organization, or support” instead of exploit in you post. Unless you can you show us some substantial reductions in poverty since the implementation of all the lefts help and support.
Banter/Billy
When you break down JZS’s post and remove the deceitful, irrelevant, and misinformation, you are left with the following.
“Alinsky helped organize blacks for Civil Rights, and Piven wrote a summary of the efforts of conservatives to disenfranchise blacks from the Civil War to the present, and wrote other things in support of the poor. Soros donates money to organization that support the poor, just as the Koch brothers donated money to people who help the rich.”
When you remove from that all points that don’t pertain to the topic at hand, which also could be argued that those attempts were simply exploitation of the poor, you are left with the following.
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Report Post »Banter
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 11:49amHey JZS
Project much? Be careful, your true xenophobic colors are showing.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 1:37pm@Speck / Banter
LMAO…………(Laughing my alinsky off)
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 1:59pmJZSaul,
I see you got your William F. Buckley reference from your favorite lazy persons, one stop shop of “knowledge”………WIKI………what a surprise.
Now, the fact that Buckley gave your uncle Saul credit for being an effective organizer should not be construed with a tacit approval of his methods or intents. Despite what you try to convey to us about your dearly beloved uncle, we all know what his true intentions were……..A marxist America.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on April 1, 2012 at 12:16amSpeck, honestly I don’t understand your last post. You do say to that everyone should ignore all “deceitful, irrelevant, and misinformation” in my posts. You don’t say what part of my posts fall into that catergory, but I take it those are the parts you don’t agree with. Speck, that’s seriously lame. As they used to say, that’s a cop out. Rather than address ideas I’ve expressed, you simply say they are false without explaining why. To me that means you have no counterargument. Okay, whatever.
You say that anyone, such as Martin Luther King or Mother Theresa, who speaks up for the rights of poor people, especially poor black people must be exploiting them.
That’s telling Speck. You simply can’t comprehend that a person would devote their lives to helping the disenfranchised and unfortunate. You must wonder “what’s the angle? They aren’t doing it for money.” So you conclude that they must have some master plan to take over the world or whatever.
Sorry Speck, and I‘m sorry you don’t understand the altruistic motivation that move people to spend their lives helping the poor and disadvantaged. Your life would be richer if had access to that idea.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on April 1, 2012 at 3:08amPssssst JZS,
You are wasting your time.
No one is following this story anymore.
But just in case anyone is…………Here is a tip on a really great book.
A must read if you want to know what make looney lefties looney.
Check out this site for more info.
http://www.libertymind.com/
Report Post »SpeckChaser
Posted on April 1, 2012 at 7:43pmJZS, we are not surprised you dont understand. Bless you heart.
You said, “I‘m sorry you don’t understand the altruistic motivation that move people to spend their lives helping the poor and disadvantaged.
You ever heard the one about assuming? The punch line is makes you look like an ass. A good deal of my off time is spent volunteering between a local food bank and a homeless center who counsels recovering drug addicts. I do not believe I need charity advice from you.
I’ll ask again, who benefits from the “help” doled out by liberals? The poor communities? Have we seen a substantial drop in the percentage of those in poverty? No. Why is that? We have been throwing money at that for decades and what do we have to show for it? Isn’t the % of poverty basically the same as it were before the poor communities began receiving help?
We do know who is living large. Sharpton and Jackson and the others demanding help for the poor sure are doing ok. Why is that? Why have they become rich/powerful over the years? There is no big reward for helping, right? You said it’s not exploitation, so what is it? How did they become wealthy/powerful while poor communities stayed the same? Explain it! Declare yourself! Really, I want you to explain it!
I do hold hope that your not all talk and spend your time/money making a difference. Hopefully your not another Biden, someone who only wants to help with the time/money of others.
Report Post »321481
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:57pmObama is definitely a ratical, but did you catch the article on Drudge about Homeland Security buying allot of ammo supposedly for immigation, I don’t think so, they never cared about the border before so they are not going to shoot illegals coming over the boarder. I wonder what the real reason they are buying such a huge quantity of ammo.
Report Post »Wilma
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:48pmThe group Freedom From Religion that is responsible for the removal of religious symbols across the country is based in Wisconsin.
Report Post »cactusjoe
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:42pmIs Beck even relavent anymore. I think I saw him on TV around 2am selling a tomato slicer.
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:54pmIt‘s a shame the union thugs are too stupid to realize they are just useful tools to people like Obama and whoever it is that’s really pulling his chain. When these Brown Shirt common crooks achieve the goals for their rulers, these thugs will end up like Jimmy Hoffa.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:57pmHey JOE,
Since you were watching, looks like he should have been pitching dictionaries, huh?
Report Post »SpeckChaser
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 11:39pmCactus
Relevant how? Relevant enough for him to lure his critics to
Turn on their computer
Pull up his website
Come up with a screen name and password
Create an account on his website
Login to his website
Post a comment on his website about his relevance
He doesn’t sound to relevant to me.
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:41pmCry my beloved Country…I pray every day for the end of Obama’s reign of terror.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:38pmWISCONSIN: For your support of… Communism, Unions, and Criminals… you are Awarded the Prize of SUCKER!
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:05pmThey did elect Scott Walker…The majority must be conservatives
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:16pm@MCDAVE
Report Post »The election was about Fiscal Responsiblity… not about Socialism v Freedom! Wisconsin has always been Socialistic!
Amma K
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 10:02pmLukerW – We may have been Socialist/democratic in the past – but it is a new day. We are turning more and more conservative every day, due to what Obama has done to this country – he has awoken us and we will not be silent anymore!!! I used to care less about politics – not anymore. I am ready and willing to fight for my freedom. I will not let this country go down the path that Obama and his followers are leading us.
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 1:03amFiscal responsibility is a conservative value…I welcome all former Obama supporters back to our side…Obama’s greatest talent is his ability to lie..he fooled many people
Report Post »Miltownie
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:30pmWow, a cheese reference. How original.. Look at what WI has done over the past few years, and compare it with states like Michigan and Illinois. The backlash from the radical minority in our state is a direct result of the conservative revolution in Wisconsin that coincided with the rise of the Tea Party movement. Get your facts straight before generalizing.
Report Post »Freedom Keeper
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:36pmIf your sick of indoctrination of your children, try homeschooling: http://www.redstate.com/truefreak/2012/03/25/homeschooling-an-alternative-to-the-progressive-indoctination-machine/
Report Post »KangarooJack
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:22pmMany people in Wisconsin are Nice. Really, honestly …nice. I imagine the Majority is sitting back hoping these “outsiders” will just go away. On some other thread someone kept making references to the Plague. It actually is a really good analogy.
Report Post »Wilma
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:45pmI’ll be sending Governor Walker a donation.
Report Post »vtxphantom
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 9:31pmYou are right, there are many outsiders here in Wisconsin. The thugs doing the organizing are from the national unions. The money is also coming from the national organizations. The recall election is going to cost up to 20 million, and that will be paid by the taxpayer. Remember, obama needs this state for his re election. This is all about obama! He will do whatever he needs to do to get this state. As of now Walker is leading all contenders.
Report Post »DV
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 4:01pmI’m sure they are nice. Just like Minnesotans are nice. But nice doesn’t get it done if you want to be rid of union thuggery. I recommend mano a mano if state leadership fails.
Report Post »JACKTHETOAD
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:13pmIt’s NEW from Parker Bros. – NIGHT COURT – The Game EVERYBODY can play!!!
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:06pmSo why do people put up with these tactics? Why don’t they fight fire with fire and burn down the Unions? Drill out their transmissions, robo-call their homes and business. This is what the Unions do, time to return the favor.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:15pmIndeed, it is past time for the unions to go into the night.
Report Post »Wilma
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 8:53pmMy guess is the unions are too large and powerful. Seems like they run the state or almost all of it. Many years ago when I was a young girl I remember asking my father about a particular union. His response,”They are mobsters.”
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