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‘Betrayal’: TX Delegate Lambastes Romney & Likens Proposed RNC Delegate Rule to ‘Dictatorship Over the Party’

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While the Republican National Convention (RNC) is intended to be a unifying rally for the party’s presidential candidate, it seems there is some intense infighting brewing. The debate, which appears to be heating up just as the convention is commencing, involves a fair bit of angst over party rules surrounding Republican delegates. This morning, TheBlaze spoke with Gilbert Vasquez, a delegate from Denton, Texas, about the intense controversy.

TX Delegate Weighs in on Proposed RNC State Delegate Rule

Photo Credit: FILE

Members of the GOP’s National Committee from across America are up in arms over a new party rule that opponents are calling “the biggest power grab in the history of the Republican Party.” At the center of the debate is whether a candidate should be able to select the delegates who attend the convention. ABC News has more:

Last week, the RNC Rules Committee approved a controversial change to the delegate selection process. Currently, states hold primaries and caucuses to determine how many delegates will be awarded to each candidate, but state parties generally meet later at state conventions to actually choose those individuals.

The new rule, however, gives presidential candidates veto power over their own delegates, representing a big boost in power for the candidates and a reduction for states. If Mitt Romney, for instance, didn’t like a delegate slated to cast a vote in his favor at the convention, Romney could throw him out and choose an alternate.

In essence, the debate is surrounding whether the states should maintain their rights in selecting delegates — or whether the candidate should have that power. It’s akin to the big versus small government debate, which is evidenced in the reaction that is coming from some figures within the Republican Party.

In an interview with TheBlaze, Vasquez explained why he is less-than-pleased with the regulatory proposal. When asked for his views on the matter, he was candid.

“My reaction, like many of the other people that are involved in grassroots — kind of betrayal, kind of fear, more or less because I know if these rules were in place this year I wouldn’t be here,” he said, going on to claim that wealth and elitism play a major role in the decision.

Vasquez described the move as contrary to the Republican Party’s platform, as it is “supposed to be for and of the people.” The rule change, he claimed, rejects the tenets of grassroots activism and crosses a line into elitism, shutting everyone out aside from those “from the highest echelons.”

“The whole power of the Republican Party gets concentrated down into one man or woman…a dictatorship over the party,” Vasquez proclaimed. “When you combine that with the rule over vetoing delegates — that candidate hand selects the people he wants — not the platform that the people want.”

TX Delegate Weighs in on Proposed RNC State Delegate Rule

Mitt Romney (Photo Credit: AP)

Politics is a dirty game, he contended. But, he took particular issue with the notion that peoples’ voices are purportedly being shuttered.

“When you start seeing things like this, it‘s not just suggested that you shouldn’t speak your voice,” he said. “It‘s almost mandated that you vote how you’re mandated to vote and give money when they tell you. It really makes you think about what you’re fighting for.”

Vasquez, who said he wasn’t planning on supporting Romney before he learned of the change, made it clear that he’s a Ron Paul supporter. Based on these views, Vasquez said he won’t back down nor will he toe the party line.

“I’m not going to sacrifice my principles just because someone tells me to. I’m going to come here, do my job — and come hell or high water, stick to them,” he continued.

And Vasquez isn’t alone. Consider Jim Bopp, a Republican National Committeeman from Indiana. In an e-mail to other committee members, he recently noted his view that the new-found regulation “would make the Republican Party a top-down, not bottom-up party.” Bopp, like many others aligning with him, believes that the regulatory alteration is an “overreaction to the problems in a few states where Ron Paul delegates threaten to not support the winning presidential candidate,” ABC News reports.

Now, here’s where the situation gets interesting. Bopp and fellow RNC members who disagree with the delegate rule were originally proposing a measure to block its inception. They referred to their counter plan as a “minority report.” A press release put out by ConservativeHQ.com explains:

“Grassroots conservatives have launched an unprecedented rules fight against an attempted coup by Mitt Romney‘s agents at this year’s Republican National Convention,” announced Richard Viguerie, Chairman of ConservativeHQ.com.

“Principled conservative Republican Party leaders Morton Blackwell of Virginia and Jim Bopp of Indiana are spearheading the drive to gather the votes necessary to adopt a Minority Rules Report and defeat the proposed rules changes on the floor during Tuesday’s procedural sessions,” said Viguerie.

Delegates from Virginia, Indiana, and other states, along with some of the Republican National Committee’s longest-serving members, are fighting the proposed rules changes, instigated by Washington’s Republican political class, that would ensure that local GOP activists are permanently frozen out of influence at the Republican National Convention and the Party apparatus.

While these individuals were prepared to engage in some infighting, it seems some Republicans sought to temper the storm — and, according to sources, they’ve been successful.

TX Delegate Weighs in on Proposed RNC State Delegate Rule

Ron Paul (Photo Credit: AP)

Vasquez told TheBlaze that, while 29 states were said to be against the rule “through arm twisting” he has been told that the “minority report” is now off-the-table. In the end, he said the talk among the delegates is that “some sort of deal was made,” but he said he could not definitively confirm that the matter was settled.

On Monday night, Bopp did confirm that a compromise has been reached and that concerns held by him and other committee members have been addressed.

“The leadership of the Republican National Committee and the Romney for President campaign has heard the concerns of the conservative grassroots voices in our party and has crafted an amendment to the Rules adopted on Friday to address these concerns,” he said in an email to Republican National Committee members.”

The compromise, as ABC News noted, states that delegates are required to vote for the candidates that they are bound to. If they do not do so, they will be kicked out of future conventions and will have votes cast on their behalf.

Here’s the text of the compromise language (neither the original nor this compromise, if adopted, would go into effect until the 2016 convention):

Rule 16(a)(2).

For any manner of binding or allocating delegates under these Rules, if a delegate

(i) casts a vote for a presidential candidate at the National Convention inconsistent with the delegate’s obligation under state law or state party rule,

(ii) nominates or demonstrates support under Rule 40 for a presidential candidate other than the one to whom the delegate is bound or allocated under state law or state party rule, or

(iii) fails in some other way to carry out the delegate’s affirmative duty under state law or state party rule to cast a vote at the National Convention for a particular presidential candidate, the delegate shall be deemed to have concurrently resigned as a delegate and the delegate’s improper vote or nomination shall be null and void. Thereafter the Secretary of the Convention shall record the delegate’s vote or nomination in accordance with the delegate’s obligation under state law or state party rule. This subsection does not apply to delegates who are bound to a candidate who has withdrawn his or her candidacy, suspended or terminated his or her campaign, or publicly released his or her delegates.

Vasquez, though, doesn’t seem happy with the changes.

“I‘m amazed that the same people who have the ’don‘t tread on me flags’…they’re still supporting Romney,” Vasquez continued. “I don’t understand the mentality that you could be kicked out of your own house and thank the man who did it.”

The delegate went on to say that he‘s heard some of his fellow members claim that they’re planning to leave, while others have maintained that “these are the kind of rules that create third parties.” We’ll have to wait and see how the battle unfolds.

UPDATE: While Rule 16 (also known as Rule 15) was certainly contentious, the negotiated terms to rectify it do not address Rule 12, a separate proposal that is equally troubling to grassroots activists. The rule would purportedly allow for the regulations governing the RNC to be changed between conventions. These amendments would be able to be issued so long as 3/4 of the 168-member body votes in favor.

Erick Erickson has more about the proposals (both Rule 15/16 and Rule 12):

The first rule to be proposed is one that would give the Republican National Committee the power to change rules between conventions with a three-quarters vote of the RNC. One source tells me, “With a Republican President, of course this is doable. Everybody will roll over if a President Romney asks them to. They’ll be able to get Ben Ginsberg’s proposal [Rule 15/16] next year.”

In other words, if Team Romney prevails in this rules change, they don’t have to worry about Ben Ginsberg not getting his way today on the delegate changes. They’ll be able to do it later when the press and grassroots are not watching.

The second rules change would front load winner takes all primaries. Grassroots conservatives point to both Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum as reasons to stop this rule. Had there been front loaded winner takes all primaries, neither the Gingrich nor the Santorum campaigns would have been able to get any traction.

This story has been updated.

Comments (184)

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  • RANGER1965
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:07am

    This isn’t going to happen.

    It might be an effort to avoid some of the chaos that Ron Paul’s delegates might bring, but guess what? It’s the way the system works. You take the good with the bad. Changing the rules of poker just because you haven’t been dealt a perfect hand is called cheating.

    And if the RNC cheats it will furthur divide an already divided party,

    Suck it up RNC.

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    • JRook
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:27am

      Actually given Mitt’s off shore accounts, tax avoidance efforts and $100 million IRA “deduction” and proposed tax reductions at the expense of the middle class I’d say he is moving more towards a Monarchy. He has no interest in change that would benefit the country or its people. As Cheney was a plant for the military industrial complex, Mitt is a plant for the wealthy.

       
    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:03am

      @JRook,

      “at the expense of the middle class” ?!?!?! Screw You!!!!! Why do you think you’re entitled to someone elses money? Go earn your own you freeloading piece of crap! Better yet, if you really do think you are entitled to someone elses money then man up, grab a weapon and go take it for yourself you spineless troll. You sit behind a keyboard with a sense of entitlement to other people’s labor and send out minions of Stasi to collect it on your behalf because you are too lazy or cowardly to do for yourself. You’re pathetic.

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    • changedone
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:15am

      However, this news and what the Israeli press is reporting, that the RNC will add to their 2012 party platform the idea of a two party solution to stop the problems between the Israelis and Arabs, troubles me. Who do I vote for (as a Christian voter): The man who has no scruples at all, or the candidates that appears to be wanting to curse God’s chosen people? Or do I just not vote at all, and let God perform His perfect Will?

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    • Absalom
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:19am

      Will be hard to cast a vote for Romney when these types of shenanigans are taking place. I will happily vote for a Republican congress and withhold my vote for Romney if he is going to allow this type of politics to take place.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:25am

      Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve: “Why do you think you’re entitled to someone elses money? Go earn your own you freeloading piece of crap!”

      You have touched on a problem. Corporations have taken public money, not their earned money, to the tune of a trillion dollars. The Federal Reserve Banks do nothing but invent money out of thin air. It then charges the public, interest on that invention… they did nothing to earn that money.

      It’s a two way street for both Republican and Democrat progressives.

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    • Clive
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:28am

      “I‘m amazed that the same people who have the ’don‘t tread on me flags’…they’re still supporting Romney,” Vasquez continued. “I don’t understand the mentality that you could be kicked out of your own house and thank the man who did it.”

      “rothbardian”, its not about “being entitled to someone elses money”. its about wealthy people not paying their taxes. if our wealthiest people, are paying a 10% tax rate, by hiding their money in tax shelters, or sending their money to bermuda, well, thats a problem.

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    • P8riot
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:28am

      LOL!!!

      Lets not pretend that the Paulastinians didn’t make their intentions PERFECTLY CLEAR that they planned on overriding the will of the primary voters by using the delegate “RULES”!!!

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    • Clive
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:29am

      Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve: “Why do you think you’re entitled to someone elses money? Go earn your own you freeloading piece of crap!”

      geez, could you be more ignorant?

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    • Dcjones
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:35am

      It’s fun when one realizes that the guy who seems crazy, and most think is crazy, is actually the only sane one in the place. Our country suffers from a mass delusion.

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    • Locked
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:43am

      @P8riot

      “Lets not pretend that the Paulastinians didn’t make their intentions PERFECTLY CLEAR that they planned on overriding the will of the primary voters by using the delegate “RULES”!!!”

      … er. Do you not see the issue with your statement? You’re against the RNC following their own rules?

      I wonder if you feel the same about following the Constitution? Bah! Silly old rules!

      I think the Democrats have lost one of their flock…

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:08pm

      @Clive,

      “rothbardian”, its not about “being entitled to someone elses money”. its about wealthy people not paying their taxes. if our wealthiest people, are paying a 10% tax rate, by hiding their money in tax shelters, or sending their money to bermuda, well, thats a problem.

      Actually Clive, that isn’t the problem. It’s the law. You don’t like it, then change it. You make the moral argument how you are entitled to the sweat of anothers brow. You explain why someone should labor for your benefit. Perhaps the bigger issue is 47% of the population who pay no federal tax. Of course, that doesn’t bother you does it? There is nothing moral about paying taxes. There certainly isn’t anything moral about some freeloader like you deciding what is “fair” for someone else. There are no laws broken and if you think the tax law is unfair you should check out the fairtax or flattax proposals. Again, you think you are entitled to more of Mitts money then get on your horse and cart your lazy arse up to his door and extract it from him. Otherwise, get a job and do for yourself or even better…YOU take care of the “poor and middle class” (whatever definition you progressives are using for that now.)

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:09pm

      @the jerk,

      No argument from me.

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    • viper_75035
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:26pm

      This reminds me of the last Iraqi election with Saddam where he got 97% of the vote (if memory serves). I can’t wait to hear when Romney captures 99% of the delegates to finally prove that the Republican party is also fully corrupted. Long live the Tree of Liberty.

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:27pm

      IF you are a delegate you are there to vote for the people who sent you. At least that’s how it has/should be. NOTE TO RON PAUL: In 30 years in the House, You’ve done -0- except to run for office. Your total lack of empathy for Israel and your very naive stance on the M.E. fractures me.
      Here’s a CLUE:

      ISLAM

      WANTS

      TO

      TAKE

      OVER

      THE

      WORLD
      they do NOT want to be ‘our friends’; our trading partners; left alone.
      THE

      MUSLIMS

      OF

      THE

      WORLD

      WANT

      TO

      RULE

      THE

      WORLD.
      What part of that don’t you guys get? GROW UP. YOU rabid, radical, fanatical Paul supporters are the main reason most of us can’t stand Ron Paul. We like Rand Paul and he endorsed Mitt Romney a long time ago. Spout off all you want but there comes a time when your efforts are gaged as totally self-centered/serving. RON PAUL is totally showing his lack of character by letting you little boys run wild. YOU have nothing we want or need, you might as well be in Charlotte with the Muslims who want to own all of us. (NOTE: Wonder how the Muslim-in-chief is going to “splain away these freaks?)

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    • P8riot
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:17pm

      @LOCKED

      “… er. Do you not see the issue with your statement? You’re against the RNC following their own rules?”

      …er. Do you not see the issue with your statement? This entire paulastinian complaint-fest is because YOU GUYS are now complaining about the “rules” now that they don’t help your little sabatoge plan… but loved the rules when they helped you.

      In a nutshell… hypocrites.

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    • P8riot
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:23pm

      By the way – this proposal is no longer in effect. The new compromise is that the rule will allow any delegate who is bound to vote for a certain candidate, YET DOES NOT DO SO, can be replaced.

      Its pathetic that we actually had to make a rule to let the Paulastinians know that its the VOTERS who should determine who our candidate will be – NOT some fringe group trying to sabatoge the primary by twisting the “rules”.

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    • Individualism
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:27pm

      look who is the dictator now Romney, o snap, this is why you can’t vote for him otherwise you could end up with a ruthless dictator like stalin or hitler, Obama sucks but he didn’t do anything like this during the primary.

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    • Vegasdad702
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:55pm

      Hey, you mean to tell me Roney is a big government Progressive?! NO WAY! Who would have seen that coming?? Ya know, YOU people who couldn‘t understand Ron Paul was THE ONLY REAL Constitutional candidate are ALREADY eating your words and actions and Romney hasn’t even won!! It is amazing how so many of us KNOW what Progressives are, that the two party system is rigged, yet stillget tricked into voting for the same Progressive candidates over, and over again! It kills me! I’m done with politics. As the saying goes- “in a democracy, the people get the governmenthey deserve!”. To bad our republic is so easily conned even when they have been shown the game plan. I can’t stand this obvious con anymore. I’m going to start focussing on things that are healthy and actually healthy and intelligent. INSANITY PEOPLE! Ron Pauls message lives on, but we ALL are just seeing what a Romney presidency is going to look like. God save our Republic, and wake up the people with love not hate.

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    • black9897
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 2:16pm

      @PATTY

      We know this. Does RP need to be more mindful of it? Of course! But you do understand our own government and its corruption is more of a threat to us than Islam right? It won’t matter what they do if we are drowning in debt and killing ourselves. How do you expect him to do stuff when he’s the only one actually wanting to follow the constitution? He’s trying to get things done in a system that won’t allow him to get things done. He’s in an extremely small minority.

      @P8RIOT

      What happens when the voters are so ignorant that they cannot even make an informed choice? Or the choice they want is one that is not constitutionally sound and is just another lying crook? Seems to me not voting for that person would be the moral thing to do. That’s not some “sabotage” by some “fringe” group, that’s doing what’s right.

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    • Clive
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 2:26pm

      “Actually Clive, that isn’t the problem. It’s the law. You don’t like it, then change it. You make the moral argument how you are entitled to the sweat of anothers brow. You explain why someone should labor for your benefit. Perhaps the bigger issue is 47% of the population who pay no federal tax. ”

      First of all, i never said that I am entitled to “the sweat of anothers brow”, again, ignorant, and weak hyperbole by the way. I’m 34, and have been income tax since i was 16. At a higher rate than mitt romney. Second 47% of americans pay no tax? Thats a myth. 87% of all americans pay tax, nice try (look it up). Third, even if we taxed the additional 13% that make no money, we would end up with nothing from, the idea that i should hate these people, or resent them for being poor, is sort of against the teachings of christ. I agree with you that the “law” allows the super wealthy to elude taxation, how do you suppose these “laws” come to exist? You think middle class people would approve of this? Because numbers show, they don’t.

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    • its_time_to_arrest_our_government
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:16pm

      its time to vote anyone thats been in office more than one term. its time we get rid of the old guard and replace them with new constitution following people who dont think they are in a class by themselves. its about time we start arresting these people for crap like this. we need to let them know if your messing with our lives their life could be cut short too.

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    • Zipit
      Posted on August 29, 2012 at 8:49am

      Hry CLIVE!!!!! To “understand”, you must first have a brain!

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    • P8riot
      Posted on August 30, 2012 at 7:51pm

      @black9897

      so what you‘re proposing is that you don’t trust the “stupid masses”? hmmm, I wonder who else has had that opinion???

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    • superguy
      Posted on August 31, 2012 at 7:22pm

      This wouldn‘t have even been something to be dealing with if the RNC hadn’t allowed Ron Paul to run in the Republican Primary and debate with them, after all, Paul is not a Republican. Paul has never been a team player and has always been all for himself. Paul has served 30 years in Congress without submitting even one bill that garnered enough support to pass which is at least indicative of someone who is incompetent, and self absorbed. There came a point, a long time ago, where it was obvious that Romney was going to be the strongest and best candidate to beat Obummer, and he has been the presumptive nominee for months. That should have signaled to all reasonable minded folks that it was time to rally support behind Romney. The reluctance of Paul and his hold outs seems like they are cutting their nose off to spite their face, and indicates a selfish and belligerently foolish attitude. Paul should have come out in support of Romney and signaled to his supporters to do the same long ago, recognizing that the big picture objective is to stop the sure destruction of our Constitution and nation by preventing a second term of Obama, but, that would require that you put country ahead of self.

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    • superguy
      Posted on August 31, 2012 at 7:39pm

      This wouldn‘t have even been something to be dealing with if the RNC hadn’t allowed Ron Paul to run in the Republican Primary and debate with them, after all, Paul is not a Republican. Paul has never been a team player and has always been all for himself. Paul has served 30 years in Congress without submitting even one bill that garnered enough support to pass which is at least indicative of someone who is incompetent, and self absorbed. There came a point, a long time ago, where it was obvious that Romney was going to be the strongest and best candidate to beat Obummer, and he has been the presumptive nominee for months. That should have signaled to all reasonable minded folks that it was time to rally support behind Romney. The reluctance of Paul and his hold outs seems like they are cutting their nose off to spite their face, and indicates a selfish and belligerently foolish attitude. Paul should have come out in support of Romney and signaled to his supporters to do the same long ago, recognizing that the big picture objective is to stop the sure destruction of our Constitution and nation by preventing a second term of Obama, but, that would require that you put country ahead of self.

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    • superguy
      Posted on September 1, 2012 at 3:04pm

      You know this wouldn‘t have even been something to be dealing with if the RNC hadn’t allowed Ron Paul to run in the Republican Primary and debate with them, after all, Paul is not a Republican. Paul has never been a team player and has always been all for himself. Paul has served 30 years in Congress without submitting even one bill that garnered enough support to pass which is at least indicative of someone who is incompetent, and self absorbed. There came a point, a long time ago, where it was obvious that Romney was going to be the strongest and best candidate to beat Obummer, and he has been the presumptive nominee for months. That should have signaled to all reasonable minded folks that it was time to rally support behind Romney. The reluctance of Paul and his hold outs seems like they are cutting their nose off to spite their face, and indicates a selfish and belligerently foolish attitude. Paul should have come out in support of Romney and signaled to his supporters to do the same long ago, recognizing that the big picture objective is to stop the sure destruction of our Constitution and nation by preventing a second term of Obama, but, that would require that you put country ahead of self.

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  • DeOppressoLiber
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:04am

    These are the progressives in the GOP. They are the most dangerous progressives out there. Time to connect the dots and do some link analysis to find out who made the rule changes and who are they working for.

    This will be the biggest single event this election cycle to hand the election to Obama and it will be self inflicted by the GOP.

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    • Wilma
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:14am

      The GOP has used the Tea Party. Knowing they will put country before self and give Romney their vote the GOP will now discard them like trash.

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    • Clive
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:30am

      um, i agree, but we handed this election to obama when we selected this idiot to run against him.

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    • CharlesMartel
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:32pm

      If Romney gets elected and ignores the TEA Party, it will turn into a 3rd Party, just like the Republican Party once was.

      If Romney doesn’t get elected, it will most likely be because of the sabotage of “Progressive” Republicans. That will also result in the TEA Party becoming a real political party.

      If Romney runs on the TEA Party ideals that match Republican ideals, and the TEA Party will have a home in the Republican Party. It will also bring back the “Reagan Democrats” and he will win!

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  • factum-non-orare
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:03am

    I voted for Ron Paul in the Iowa caucus but, this is the time for all hands on deck and stop the infighting. The key is to make sure whoever is elected we hold their feet to the fire and ensure they reduce the size of government and fairly quickly. We have to remember on our side these issues were not created in 2 years and will not be fixed in under 10 years but we must keep up the pressure until government is about 1/10th of its current size… This must include state and local governments they are just as bad as the federal monstrosity we are currently dealing with.

    “Factum-non-orare” Action not words

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    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:58am

      Amen, amen, and AMEN! Consider me a fan of Factum-Non-Orare.

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    • RedNeckMormon
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:53am

      I think “Acta non verba” is more appropriate

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    • PorkPIG
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:57am

      and you think Romney will do this ??? You are are in for a surprise, nothing will change if Romney is Elected . Really nothing will change no matter who controls what , the ship is sinking and there is no way to save it unless we remove the federal reserve .

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    • justangry
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:12pm

      All the 2010 Tea Party candidates betrayed their principles the minute they got into Washington, what have any of you folks done to hold their feet to the fire. Spare me that crap, I’m not buying it. The only way to hold their feet to the fire is repudiate their actions by voting their butts out of there. Of course that’s not going to happen, is it?

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    • jonnydoe
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 3:05pm

      The in-fighting will stop when the so called leaders of the party stop trying to silence them.

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    • PRINZ KARL
      Posted on August 29, 2012 at 2:33am

      Thank you for injecting clarity into what has become a black hole of idiocy. Paul is done and all the Paulista’s sad, contrived scenarios with him. If Paul and his supporters are as true to their convictions as they would have us believe, the removal of the interloper Obama would be the priority. Whatever way, shape or form, Obama must be defeated. Ron Paul is not and never was the candidate to do that. The RP supporters need to get over their own rhetoric and engage with the rest of the Right in the struggle at hand.

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  • ddg7
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:00am

    I agree with Glenn that we’ll have to keep these guys honest but geez, do we have to start before their even elected?

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  • BigSky
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:00am

    The guy’s not even a Republican, he’s a Ron Paul-bot.

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    • Wilma
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:30am

      “Indiana delegate and Romney supporter James Bopp wrote in an email to RNC members that it’s “the biggest power grab in the history of the Republican Party.” Fredricks, a Romney supporter, says only 30 people of the more than 300 Texan alternates and delegates support Ron Paul, yet the delegation is “united” in its opposition to the rule.” Yahoo News

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    • factum-non-orare
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:30am

      Do I sound like a robot? The fact is Ron Paul is the most aggressive candidate at reducing our debt and wanting a balanced budget, 1/2 measures will avail us nothing. I’ve never had an illegal drug in my life and never will, but why does our government make arbitrary decisions about what is legal and illegal. Why do we have a war against things that were legal 80 years prior? Why do they decide what’s acceptable? They lead us by our nose and tell us what we can and can’t do. Morality can‘t be legislated it’s proven. So explain to me why alcohol is ok and not pot seems very arbitrary to me. I like John Stossel’s attitude if your adult it’s legal but we are not here to help you with your stupid decisions!!

      How much cash have we wasted on a war on drugs and we have not made the slightest dent. Just like gun control does not work, neither do attempts at drug control.

      “Factum-non-orare” Action not words

      PS. Name calling is for those like Chris Mathews who cannot make a reasoned argument! Don’t fall into that liberal trap.

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    • Displacedsoutherner
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:24pm

      I had a good friend who was a staunch Libertarian and he thought it was better to divide the vote and hand close elections to the Democrat candidates who supported <5% of his views rather than support Republicans who had a chance of winning and elect candidates that would represent maybe 50% of his views.

      Arguing with him was pointless; no amount of logic could convince him that 50% of something he wanted was better than basically nothing, and that using Libertarian support to assist rather than defeat Republican candidates was ultimately a better strategy for the Libertarians as well.

      The continuing Ron Paul 'scorched earth' policy is as pro-Obama as one can get, but again logic eludes the dogmatic Paul supporters. One is reminded of a spoiled child who takes the ball and runs home from the playground in the midst of the game at the first sign friction with the other children. In the end everyone loses.

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    • jonnydoe
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 3:14pm

      DISPLACEDSOUTHERNER, You’re the kind of tool the GOP is counting on to vote for them. They can screw you 7 ways from Sunday and patsies like you will still vote for them. If you need an example look no further than the Tea Party. It’s been taken over by the progressives within the party who now use it to continue to secure power. Enough is enough. I will not vote for Romney.

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  • ddg7
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:57am

    So much for the RNC wanting to include all voices!

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  • Wango
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:56am

    Republicans making a power grab against the will of the people. Whoever heard of such a thing?

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    • VTDave
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:10am

      That is something you should be quite familiar with being a Democrat…….

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:05am

      Kinda like Obamacare…but different.

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    • Wango
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:08am

      Draft off me, boys. It’s so much easier than thinking for yourselves. I’ll send an invoice.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:16am

      Must be really creepy in your world wang. They do have pills for narcissistic personality disorder…you should check into that.

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    • Individualism
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:31pm

      even the democrats didn’t do that in their primary, Obama deserves relection against Romney because he won allot more fairly.

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    • en2deep
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 2:40pm

      @ INDIVIDUALISM; You seem to have forgotten the unsavory things that took place in the dem primary 4yrs. ago(ask Hillary delegates). No Chicago politician does anything clean and above board. Don’t be a fool.

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  • junkmaninohio
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:53am

    This is so typical of the little minds that are so prevalent within the RNC. While Democrats publicly show total unity within the ranks Republicans, like sand box children, can’t help themselves by eating their own. This is why the establishment Republican Party will forever remain a minority party bent on snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. We need a viable third party now.

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    • thx1138v2
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:46am

      A third party won’t do it. That’s why there is no Progressive political party. They have candidates in both political parties so they can run against each other. Regardless of which party wins a race the Progressives win.

      The republican party having more conservatives than the democratic party, it will take less time to rid the Republican party of Progressives and time is quickly runiing out.

      Opening a third party plays right into the hands of the Progressives.

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    • factum-non-orare
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:40am

      The problem you describe is the nature of our conservatism we are free thinkers therefore will not follow like sheep and I would not have it any other way. Third party is suicide and will ensure the nuts rule forever, we must take what is ours from those who will not follow true conservatism. Reprogressives, and rinos and the like, they are the minority and they will leave like the former Florida governor and show who’s side they are really on.

      “Factum-non-orare” Action not words

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    • Smoovious
      Posted on August 29, 2012 at 2:08am

      The political fight of the 21st century, isn’t Democrat vs Republican anymore, tho they keep trying damned hard to make sure you think it still is.

      The new fight is between Libertarian vs Progressive. Don’t kid yourselves, the Progressives are a very real threat to our country. They control both wings of their movement. Those wings are the Democrat and Republican parties.

      This election in November, between Romney and Obama, is Progressive vs Progressive…

      So… tell me this… just how do you expect to be able to rid your parties of the Progressives, if you keep voting for them? To believe that you can is sheer lunacy.

      A Republican might as well vote Democrat this election hoping it’ll save the country and their party. Won’t make a difference, either way, it is still a Progressive.

      Us Libertarians, are the ones the current Republican party have pushed out. We’re the heart and soul of what the Republican party was founded on, but the Progressives can’t have us staying in their way. They get a few key people into a few key positions, and they can do whatever they want. The shenanigans that took place during this primary cycle, they didn’t even try to hide! It was so blatantly obvious to people not wearing blinders about how their party can do no wrong.

      Many of you keep crying about how we’re giving the election to Obama by voting Libertarian or for Paul. You all are voting for a Progressive.

      We can’t vote for a Progressive. We’re Libertarians.

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  • ricklap
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:49am

    The Establishment Rep need to go, they are nothing but Dems in Rep clothing.

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    • junkmaninohio
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:54am

      It’s time for a viable third party.

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    • thx1138v2
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:41am

      More accurately they are Progressives in the Republican party. The Progressives don‘t have a political party because they don’t want a third party. They want two parties with their candidates in each party running against each other. No matter which political party wins, the Progressives win. That is exactly why Romney is facing Obama and why the congressional elections are far more important this year than they have ever been before. If conservatives don’t take the Senate, we’re done. This presidential election has become a Progressive dog and pony show. I will be far better to focus your efforts on congressional races.

      No, I am not a Ron Paul supporter.

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  • ltb
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:46am

    It seems like the GOP (which isn’t so “great” anymore) is just asking for a third party.

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    • Zaggynuts
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:12am

      Sorry Ron paul didn’t win,but now is the time to get over it. If the people wanted Paul to win he would have recieved more than his outstanding 4% of the vote. Face it the only Paul that could have a chance of being Presidnet (very small chance at that) is Rand. No one is being cheated here; if the Paul people recieved the extra 10 delegates they are crying about they would still lose.

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    • sWamby
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:10pm

      If Ron Paul didn’t win, show it, let the delegates cast their votes like the rules state, if you don’t like it, change the rules for 4 years from now, don’t change the rules after the game has started, that’s not a conservative tactic at all.

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    • dj109
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:52pm

      @ zaggynuts
      “No one is being cheated here; if the Paul people recieved the extra 10 delegates they are crying about they would still lose.”

      If that’s the case, why risk all this negative publicity by changing the rules? You’re comment defies logic. Did you even think before posting?

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  • bTeri
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:45am

    So I’m a bit confused here. Is this essentially about Ron Paul supporters that dont want to honor the rule of pledging their delegates to the winner (Romney) in the first round whining about having to follow the rules? Exactly when will they acknowledge that they gave their candidate fierce support and and honorable effort, but that their message simply did not resonate with enough people. Paul has some views that do not sit well with the majority of Americans – that led to his pirmary numbers and subsequent failing results – Paul supporters have to at some point admit defeat in this election – not in their entire movement.

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:51am

      That’s exactly what this is all about. However, it’s Ron Paul now, but it could be someone else in the future, you know? So I think the end result was worth the fight to change that language.. and they DID! :)

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    • junkmaninohio
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:57am

      Yes…like children in a sand box the Republicans try to make it as hard as posible on themselves. This is why we do need a third party. We’re so sick of these establishment morons bent on snatching defeat from the jaws of victory….it’s too laughable but also too bad. Establishment Republicans will forever remain a minority party and that’s just fine with them.

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    • Captain77
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:03am

      This is more than about Ron Paul. Kirby Wilbur, the washington state republican chairman who is very for Romney and strongly apposes Ron Paul is standing strongly against this motion. SHould it pass, the voice of the people will forever be something of the past when it comes to this party. Look at the issue, not the people who you support or are against. If you can’t do that, then you’ll end up being part of the problem.

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    • Wilma
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:10am

      This is not solely a Ron Paul issue. Michelle Malkin, Matt Kibbe, and Sara Palin stand against the GOP on this issue.

      For the record, I do not support Ron Paul. I am Tea Party.

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    • endgamer
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:50pm

      I support Ron Paul and attended the USF rally where it was at capacity ( fire code) of near 11,000 including the floor.. there was a survey taken of how many people were democrats and voted for Obama last time and 85% stood up!! If you think that a vote for Ron was a vote for Obama you are mistaken.. A third party is in order.. apparently Ron will not accept a nomination from the floor if it happens unless he can win the fight and as it stands does not have the support at the RNC to do so.. Miracles do happen but in case it doesn’t I may put my support behind Gary Johnson because of principle only. We will get the same thing with Romney… Or Obamney as “they” should be called..

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    • P8riot
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:19pm

      @BTERI

      Amen and amen!

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  • Wilma
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:41am

    Here’s the latest update from MichelleMalkin.com

    “It looks like there’s an acceptable compromise on the table on rule 15/16, but nothing yet on them pulling back the new “rule 12″, which lets the RNC change the rules between conventions.”

    We are not out of hot water, yet.

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:44am

      I think you will FIND that they have backed off of that and that CONSERVATIVES won!

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:50am

      Here’s our winning language! “”This subsection does not apply to delegates who are bound to a candidate who has withdrawn his or her candidacy, suspended or terminated his or her campaign, or publicly released his or her delegates.”"

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  • www.TopTheNews.com
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:37am

    If the RNC is truly that concerned with beating Obama, they would unite instead of dividing…Why has News Corp (FOX) Has Contributed More Than 20 Times As Much to Obama Campaign as Romney’s? FOX is the RNC mouthpiece.

    The people are being bamboozled.

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  • grickm
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:36am

    Seems like Republican progressives are making a move. Time for a RINO hunt?

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  • TommyGuns
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:33am

    This rule change needs to go down in defeat. It’s all well and good to talk about party unity and loyalty, but the proposed rule does exactly what the GOP has been complaining about – the concentration of power in the hands of an elitist group who think they know better than We The People. I can tell you this much, if the rule goes through, the GOP will have gone a long way towards demonstrating the need for a strong third party. I for one will cast my vote for Gary Johnson, since Ron Paul is not on the ballot.

    Don’t get me wrong. I believe we need to vote President Obama out of office, along with his cronies in Congress. At the same time, I do not like being placed in the position of ‘do it my way or hit the highway’ by either party. The federal government derives its powers from the states and the people, not the other way around. What bloody genius figured that this would be a good move?

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:31am

    Here’s one list, but not the one I am searching for that has each delegate’s cell phone number listed, so you can call him/her directly on this vote. These numbers will get you to the State’s Rep. Headquarters. They SHOULD be able to give you numbers to call right now. I will keep looking for those numbers. If anyone else has them, please post them here!

    Alabama: (205) 212-5900

    Alaska: (907) 276-4467

    Arizona: (602) 957-7770

    Arkansas: (501) 372-7301

    California: (916) 448-9496

    Colorado: (303) 758-3333

    Connecticut: (860) 422-8211

    DC: (202) 289-8005

    Delaware: (302) 668-1954

    Florida: (850) 222-7920

    Georgia: (404) 257-5559

    Hawaii: (808) 593-8180

    Idaho: (208) 343-6405

    Illinois: (312) 201-9000

    Indiana: (317) 635-7561

    Iowa: (515) 282-8105

    Kansas: (785) 234-3456

    Kentucky: (502) 875-5130

    Louisiana: (225) 389-4495

    Maine: (207) 622-6247

    Maryland: (410) 263-2125

    Massachusetts: (617)-523-5005

    Michigan: (517) 487-5413

    Minnesota: (651) 222-0022

    Mississippi: (601) 948-5191

    Missouri: (573) 636-3146

    Montana: (406) 442-6469

    Nebraska: (402) 475-2122

    Nevada: (702) 258-9182

    New Hampshire: (603) 225-9341

    New Jersey: (609) 989-7300

    New Mexico: (505) 298-3662

    New York: (518) 462-2601

    North Carolina: (919) 828-6423

    North Dakota: (701) 255-0030

    Ohio: (614) 228-2481

    Oklahoma: (518) 462-2601

    Oregon: (503) 595-8881

    Pennsylvania: (717) 234-4901

    Rhode Island: (401) 732-8282

    South Carol

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    • kickagrandma
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:54am

      Here is a list of delegates serving on the Rules Committee listed alphabetically by state. Please take a moment to find the delegates from your state to urge them sign onto and vote FOR the Minority Report from the Rules Committee to stop the proposed change. The vote is expected to take place Tuesday. Please only contact delegates from your state.

      I am choosing to present this information to you this way rather than put out each delegate’s own phone number, email and zip code. PLEASE LOCATE THE DELEGATE ON THE RULES COMMITTEE FROM YOUR STATE and call that person right now.

      For more info., check out other posts here which direct you to various website and contact info.

      GOD BLESS AMERICA AND HIS KIDS!

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  • AllLost
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:30am

    I am not a paulian and also find the rule changes to be that of a political machine and not of the people. But I expect this from the Repubs because they are in essence on different than the Dems. They seek power at all costs and will seek to ever increase that power once they get it.

    The commonality of the two parties is that the Constitution not only does not matter to them, but they find it to be a inconvenience

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  • seaweaver
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:26am

    If the Pauls were not so dang obtuse on the matter. I understand SOME of their frustration…but it gets carried to a fault. Nearly the entire NC Tea Party FB group are Pauls determined to continue a Primary Hangover into the future and are pushing a third party vote.
    Paul lost, and the antics of his troops are not boding well for the future of Rand.

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    • Roberto G. Vasquez
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:48am

      I’m a Libertarian and now that it is a certainty that Romney is the Republican candidate I am supporting him 100%. Why? Because Romney is 1000% better for America than any Democrat, and it may even be a matter of national survival that he be elected. In addition, Romney and Ryan support many Libertarian viewpoints and I am very comfortable with their support of the Constitution as written. That being the case, I’m calling on all my Libertarian friends to put aside minor personal differences and support the candidfate that is best for America.

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    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:24am

      Thank you, Mr. Vasquez, for your candor and willingness to put the salvation of our precious Republic first. I agree wholeheartedly with your position, and I too made the decision to back Romney/Ryan, even though I would have preferred someone with more small-government ideals.

      That being said, I believe we are about to witness one of those watershed moments in American history when millions of Liberty-loving Americans will set aside our personal differences over the small stuff in pursuit of a greater goal: The preservation of our precious Constitutional Republic.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:09am

      NC Tea Party is all “Pauls”. You know why? Dr. Paul is the father of the Tea Party. Despite Limbaugh and other GOP schills protests, the first Tea Party event was December 16, 2007 at a Ron Paul rally.

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    • jonnydoe
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 3:20pm

      ROBERTO G. VASQUEZ, If you’re supporting Romney, you’re not a Libertarian, you’re a RINO. The Libertarian candidate is Gary Johnson.

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  • Wilma
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:22am

    According to Mark Levin, “Grass-roots activists revolted over Rule 15 (the delegate selection provision to be renumbered Rule 16) and Rule 12 (the power grab that would allow the RNC to make executive convention rule changes and rewrite the rules between conventions without any input/consultation with grass-roots, delegates, or state leadership on hand).”

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:21am

    What people call the right is actually the center in a traditional U.S, and if the Republican party doesn’t embrace that then the party is finished. I don’t think they will embrace it which is why I say America is finished with the Republican party.

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  • Wilma
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:19am

    Michelle Malkin is calling on conservatives to contact Party representatives. She lists contact information on her site. It seems the deadline for action is 2pm.

    http://michellemalkin.com/2012/08/27/floor-fight-grass-roots-activists-battle-attempt-to-rig-gop-convention-delegate-rules/

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    • Zipit
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:30am

      Good work there Flintstone! Good work!

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:38am

      Republican leaders moved Monday to quell an uprising by Texans and Ron Paul supporters that
      threatened to steal the spotlight from GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney and expose rifts in the party right as its nominating convention got under way.

      Under a compromise reached late Monday, Romney supporters and GOP leaders ““agreed to back down from a proposed rule change”” that effectively would have allowed presidential nominees to choose what delegates represent them at national conventions.

      The proposed change was aimed at muting the power of insurgent candidates such as Tea Party favorite Ron Paul but prompted an uproar from Texas Republicans, who select their delegates through successive votes in conventions at precincts, then districts and finally statewide.

      It’s OVER. They BACKED DOWN ALREADY FROM THE CHANGE.

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    • Taurnil
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:07pm

      I did email Mr. Feaman and Ms. King here in Florida. Have yet to hear from Ms. King but Mr. Feaman did reply saying this;

      Quote;
      “I am the newly elected National Committeeman for the State of Florida.
      I am first and foremost, a grass roots activist.
      Each State Party controls their delegate selection process through its own rules.
      I was at the Standing Rules Committee meeting last Wednesday in Tampa. I have reviewed every rule change that will be voted on. I am not aware of anything allowing a “presumptive” nominee to disavow anything.

      However, I was not at the Convention Rules Committee meeting on Friday because at the last minute I was taken off of the Committee.
      If there is anything in the new rules passed on Friday that disenfranchises the grass roots, I will oppose it.”

      So he was taken off the committee at the last minute.

      AFAIAC the RNC are acting in a despicable way.

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  • Want our country back
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:19am

    Ron Paul supporters are unhinged, they should go and sit on Chris Matthews knee.

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    • Captain77
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:09am

      You idiot! You have no idea of whats going on. Even if you support Mitt Romney, you should be against these rule changes. It takes the power out of the peoples hands and puts it in the hands of a few elite. Only a person who is ignorant or blind could actually see what is happening with these rule changes and think that they are a good thing.

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    • Cadcamtrainer
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:35am

      And allow them selfes to be spanked by RP.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:14am

      LOL, love the constitutional reference in the avatar and the disdain for constitutionalists. Proof positive that denial isn’t just a river in Egypt. Guess there’s no law (yet) banning stupid…so carry on.

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    • jonnydoe
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 3:25pm

      Good one ROTH, These RINO slaves will never leave the plantation. That would involve holding their masters in the GOP to the same constitutional standard they claim to hold Obama to.

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:18am

    Have list of names of all delegates and phone numbers. Will happily supply them so we can call them about Romney’s New Rules #15 which will eliminate ALL GRASSROOTS input into the republican party.

    STAND NOW, AMERICA!

    Stand by for list coming your way as many posts as it takes to get it to you…..

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  • doomytram
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:18am

    Look! Let me be clear. If the result of the Electoral college is to have Oboze steal the re-election with CA, NY and thievery of Florida then the Electoral College needs to be changed. There is no way that Obozo has anywhere near 30% of the population’s support. He has his lapdog media, his superstars Clooney, Cher, Ice T etc. and NY and CA. The only way Obozo wins Florida is with Holder. In 2012 the Country is as Red as Obozo is communist.

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  • EqualJustice
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:17am

    I just read that they have backed off of this and it’s a dead issue. The Tea Party and the real conservatives won this round. The establishment realized the error of their ways. Thank God this fight is over and we can move on. WE NEED UNITY NOW MORE THAN EVER! **ROMNEY/RYAN 2012**

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    • Wilma
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:34am

      Please provide a link. This is too important to make a mistake.

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:40am

      http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/08/republicans-reach-rules-change-deal-to-avert-floor-fight/
      Ultimately, they backed down.

      In an e-mail obtained by Hearst Newspapers (available below), Republicans who led the fight against the proposed change said the GOP leaders “heard the concerns of the conservative grassroots voices in our party” and amended their proposal.

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:41am

      I did. It might take a few minutes to show up!

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    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:53am

      While I applaud any and every attempt to give more power to the the people and less to the establishment, I strongly disagree with the timing of this. And I blame the Ron Paul faction for instigating this entire debacle with their shady and dishonest manipulation of the delegate process.

      Their chicanery was spelled out very well by Blaze poster Airgun in the Ron Paul thread from Sunday night:
      ……………
      Airgun
      Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:53am

      Hmm, I was selected as a delegate in my hometown, and what I saw was an overwhelming vote for Romney by the public who voted in the primary; however almost all the people left after casting a ballot, so almost no-one saw that the people who stayed behind were Paulistinians who ignored the will of the people by voting and electing each other to the delegate slots at the national level. Strange, but that’s exactly what happened when Obama was elected, on top of all the fraud.
      The problem with Ron Paul is 10% his policies, and 90% dishonesty by his supporters, who seem to subscribe to the lefty mantra that the end justifies the means- so screw the public and the rule of law.
      ………….

      With only 70 days remaining until Election Day, and with Romney/Ryan beating the pants off of Obama, this is NO TIME to drive a wedge into the nearly unified Right.

      Paulbots, you’re on notice: If you cost us the election with your selfish tantrum, America will never forgive you, as we have never forgiven Ross Perot.

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    • GlennaBeckski
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:06am

      How long before we read a story with headlines “No Need to Vote Democrats and Republican have United Into One New Party” Islam will now rule the U.S.

      As of this morning … I have heard nothing of the story of DNC 2 hour Jumah prayer meeting on Friday reported by Fox.. Shouldn’t this be a Breaking News Story??

      I fear Fox is now all Fluff.

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    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:46am

      Glenn, I lost interest in Fox News a while back.

      I saw what I believe to be the genesis of their fall from grace almost exactly 4 years ago. I remember vividly the night O’Reilly jumped the shark. It was August ‘08, one night O‘Reilly was hammering Obama’s shady connections and talking about his childhood in Indonesis and his trips to “POCK-EE-STAHN” – then, suddenly, the very next night O’Reilly changed his tune completely. It was like night and day. He was backpedalling, saying we all should go easy on Mr. Obama, etc. etc. I knew right then that he had gotten orders from above concerning Obama. And I told my friends that this was a sad sign of things to come at Fox News. I really hoped I was wrong.

      Their move to the left has been gradual for the most part, but it has definitely been happening. I was so mad at O’Reilly that night, but I was even madder at Shepherd Smith’s Chicken Little routine during the BP Oil Spill. That fool acted like such a ridiculous bleeding heart alarmist during that debacle. And I will swear on a stack of Bibles that the propaganda concerning that spill was HUGELY overblown out of proportion to the ACTUAL damage that was done to the Gulf environment.

      I still like Gregg Gutfeld, though. That SOB is hilarious and sharp as a tack. And Fox is still better than any other TV news outlet by leaps and bounds.

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    • copatriots
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:47am

      Excellent re-post from AIRGUN, WOOL-FREE! Thanks for that info…..it helps put the pieces together. And Paulbots talk about how the GOP manipulated the primaries. Guess they would be experts at it. I remember reading how they did that same maneuver in Iowa.

      And, WOW, your post about FOX News was exactly my thoughts. In addition to watching FOX become increasingly more liberal, I couldn’t actually stand the most extreme talking head liberals they allow to spout their nonsense under the disguise of “balance”. Then again, every liberal is extreme. I became quite sick of the shouting matches and talking over one another.

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    • Individualism
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:33pm

      want unity, play by the rules, Obama is better than Romney simply because he won the primary without doing anywhere as close as the amount of fraud, rigging and changing of the rules to keep out opposition.

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    • copatriots
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 2:07pm

      You are certifiably insane, INDI, and the most obvious 0bama plant on this site. How much do you get paid to spew your drivel? What caused you to hate this country so much?

      Oh and by the way…….your party just murders those who don’t support the establishment.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zoz7O0dsPss&feature=related

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    • Individualism
      Posted on August 28, 2012 at 2:13pm

      Libertarians don’t murder anyone using our troops.

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  • EqualJustice
    Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:32am

    Is the report that they have BACKED OFF now and it’s over wrong? I will try to find the link again.

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