Police May Be Using Sound Technology to Control Occupy Protesters
- Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:29am by
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Pepper spray can often be the crowd control method of choice for police departments because it easily subdues subjects without permanent damage. But that’s not all police are using to help control “Occupy” protests around the country.
You may not think sound can be a powerful weapon, but sound tactics can be effective at dispersing crowds. Gizmodo has more on the Long Range Acoustical Devices (LRADs) that can be used as both messaging devices and crowd deterrents:
The device produces a sound that can be directed in a beam up to 30-degree wide, and the military-grade LRAD 2000X can transmit voice commands at up to 162dB up to 5.5 miles away.
The LRAD corporation says that anyone within a 100 meters of the device’s sound path will experience extreme pain. The version generally utilized by police department (the LRAD 500X) is designed to communicate at up to 2000 meters during ideal conditions. In a typical outdoor environment, the device can be heard for 650 meters. The 500x is also capable of short bursts of directed sound that cause severe headaches in anyone within a 300-meter range. Anyone within 15 meters of the device’s audio path can experience permanent hearing loss. LRAD claims the device is not a weapon, but a “directed-sound communication device.”
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The LRAD device has been used on several occasions against activists in the US. The first documented use was in Pittsburgh during the G20 summit in 2009. The Pittsburgh police used it again following the Superbowl in 2011. The LRAD has reportedly been used against Occupy protestors in Oakland and recently against Occupy Wall Street protestors in Zuccotti Park.
The New York Daily News reports the police as denying use LRADs as “sound cannons” but as effective means to spread messages to the crowd:
“We don’t use it to disrupt. We don’t use it as some horrible noisemaker,” said Police Department spokesman Paul Browne.
“We set it up away from where a crowd is. We create a 50-foot safety zone. It sends out a clear, uniform message that can be heard for several blocks.”
Reported side effects, according to Gizmodo, have included permanent hearing loss, making use of LRADs a controversial tactic:
Permanent hearing loss begins at 130dB, and if the device is turned up to 140dB, anyone within its path would not only suffer hearing loss, they could potentially lose their balance and be unable to move out of the path of the audio. The device is also entirely operator dependent, which could lead to serious ramifications if the officer in charge doesn’t have sufficient training.
The Vice President of Business Development for the LRAD Corporation Scott Stuckey didn’t explicitly come and tell the New York Daily News the devices can be used as weapons. The company’s website states use of the speakers for humans as delivering a loud clear message :
“Can your car horn be used as a weapon? Can you play loud noise with the LRAD? Absolutely,” said Stuckey. “They could cover their ears if it’s too loud.”
Here is an example of when an LRAD was used to break up a protest in Pittsburgh in 2009:
LRADs were even used against a team on Animal Planet’s Whale Wars that was attempting to protect whales from poachers:
The device was first developed in the early 2000s so naval ships could easily communicate with one another. The company’s website also notes the device being used to deter birds away from wind farms, airports and runways, and even farms.
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Comments (223)
lukerw
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:24amDune: Sound can kill!
Report Post »Seneca264
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:39amVery stupid technology. This technology will become quickly useless in the “urban warfare” arena. These units can be quickly shut down with a simple well placed bullet. These technologies always sound great on paper but will not be effective in real life situations.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:42amDo you think they could use some “ smell technology ”….
Report Post »Sy Kosys
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:51amSonic shower, maybe ;)
Report Post »JRook
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 12:06pmWhat no report from GB on how sound technology was used by the Nazis against the Jews. This is right out of their playbook……… did i get that right.
Report Post »YoungBloodNews
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 12:08pmMore or our tax dollars wasted on stupid crap.
Report Post »Just_Bubba
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 12:35pmTake a little time a search “passive weaponry”. There are some pretty cool things out there and you will never even see the ones that are specifically designed for military use. Just because there is something new, the naysayers will poopoo it. Typical.
Report Post »chris.duncan
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 12:39pmseneca264
a well placed bullet will render most things useless
duh
this is just something the police can use to irritate the protesters as much as they irritate everyone else
Report Post »swoods08
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 12:51pmI wonder if it can produce the “brown note.”
Report Post »K Chad Roberts
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 1:21pmPut a chemical-vat power supply behind a large enough one, and you can break down buildings. Put one that powerful on an aircraft, and you can disable an entire group of enemies for capture and interrogation. Please think a little bit. Sound energy is THE SAME as shock-waves emitted by explosive devices, we’re just generating the energy in a different manner.
Report Post »Once A Marine Always An American
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 1:40pmLRAD and Dazzler guns are highly effecting at dispering and incapacitation people. These types of technologies are at the fore front of non-leathal and less than leathal weaponry.
Report Post »As for ‘rendering useless’, anything can be rendered useless.
As for the ultimate potential of these systems. Light can and one day be focused to such a point that hand held lazers will be cappable of cutting through solid objects with great ease.
Sound has already been proven to be cappable of great destruction. The sound wave created by an M1A1 tank’s sabot round will rip any human being within 30 meters of the passing round to pieces.
ranchoazulmt
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 1:54pmAnything over 120dBA is in the thresh hold of pain region. 162dB is into the range where hearing can be damaged permanently. I wonder if they understand the risk of lawsuit (they always want “free” money) using a sound level of that magnitude? The stated value is at 5.5 meters (~18 ft.). It would feel muched louder if you right next to it! Theoretically 194dBA is the thresh hold of sound. Since dBA is a logarythmic scale a small increase of 3dBA is actually a doubling in a linear scale. Wow, this is a LOUD, LOUD SOUND!
Report Post »Tokengimp
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 3:28pmFor Seneca,
Report Post »Yes a bullet can subdue the efforts, but bullet can be returned just as quick.What point are you trying to make? Or were you making a threat? Perhaps you should experience it’s effects before providing such an ignorant reply. It’s worked to repel pirates approaching cruise ships and has disrupted chaos in many areas. Maybe you prefer a more aggressive means to achieve the objective? Sound directed on those few causing problems is less offensive than pepper dispersed into the crowd hitting all.
smithclar3nc3
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 4:04pmThey should just crank up some deth metal hippies hate that stuff.
Report Post »CyberJocky
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 4:23pm[Seneca264
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:39am
Very stupid technology. This technology will become quickly useless in the “urban warfare” arena. These units can be quickly shut down with a simple well placed bullet. These technologies always sound great on paper but will not be effective in real life situations.]
Well problem with your well placed bullet is if you shoot at the police they might shoot back.
Report Post »And while you might feel like a martyr, you may be standing next to someone that hasn’t signed up for that While I may mourn your loss, It would be brief since I would already mourn your stupidity.
gipb
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 5:16pmIf they would just throw poop, that would make all of those people scatter…
Report Post »ZaphodsPlanet
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 6:20pm@JROOK
You’re totally full of crap. This is in no way similar to what you’re trying to allude to. If you didn’t smoke so much weed maybe you could grasp that.
Report Post »1389AD
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 6:31pmSwoods08,
Mythbusters tested sound generation devices to determine whether it is possible to generate “brown note” noise that would cause people to lose bowel control. According to them, that myth is “busted.”
Even if there were such a thing as a “brown note,” losing bowel control would have absolutely no effect on Occupy whatsoever. Occupiers poop whenever and wherever the urge strikes, even if porta-potties are within easy reach. They simply wouldn’t notice the difference.
Report Post »NYHuguenot
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:22pmPOssibly. The original sound generators produced a four Hertz almost subsonic sound that produced ear disturbances to produce balance probelms and headaches as well as nausea completely incapacitating anyone who hears it.How low is four Hertz? A reference is the Gravissimma tube on an organ at 16 Hertz. Try listening to that frequency for 10 minutes and see what happens.
Report Post »AmazingGrace8
Posted on November 19, 2011 at 11:02amRemember the movie (title slips my memory card) where Slim Whitman song plays and makes the aliens disappear?
Report Post »K Chad Roberts
Posted on November 21, 2011 at 4:32pmMatians Attack?
Report Post »KILLACOMMIE4MOMMY
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:23amLike they say, If it’s too LOUD…..You must be a degenerate stinky hippie protestor!!!
Report Post »Turn it up to 11 boys!!!
Blast those vermin!
Lord_Frostwind
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 2:44pm“It goes to eleven?!”
Report Post »moreteaplease
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:20amWhat about the low frequency sound generators that they have which send out pulses of sub-low freqs. which causes headaches, stomach aches, nausea.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:25amYou speak of the technology called “Infra-sound generation” and have ranges of several miles. It is a good idea, yet can still cause more harm in a broader area than desired.
Report Post »Lotus503
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:16amHuh…sound like the pain I get everytime I hear a Obama speech….
Report Post »JohnTwoFeathers
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:30amWhy not broadcast MSNBC 24 hours a day. The sound of Chris Matthews voice is enough to make most people puke. Couple it with all the presidential speaches about hope and change and how he’s looking out for all his followers while he and his entorage vacation around the world.
Tea
Report Post »OhioRifleman
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 1:12pm@ JohnTwoFeathers – This is OWS we are speaking of. If you were to broadcast MS-DNC to them all day, they would worship the equipment you were using and the false idols displayed on it.
Report Post »mbriz
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 7:08pmI look forward to his reelection, and the sound of the beckies hitting the pavement after you jump. Bye-Bye.
Report Post »antiencenom
Posted on November 19, 2011 at 2:04pmI’m a proud beckie
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:15amWhile accounts of the Scream’s use at Qalandia pointed to it as a first for Israel, the Israeli Defense Force has actually used a sonic blaster dubbed “the Scream” at least once before. In 2005, the IDF deployed a “Scream” sonic blaster on a protest against Israel’s separation barrier that turned violent. Israel’s Electro-Optics Research & Development Ltd. company makes an “anti-riot system” that it calls “SHOPHAR The scream.” Named after the ram’s horn blown during Jewish religious ceremonies — including next week’s Rosh Ha’shannah services — the SHOPHAR uses a stack of 36 hexagonal horns to blast a concentrated beam of sound at targets as far away as 75 meters. “The system is operational in the IDF,” the company says. It’s not clear whether all these systems are the same, or just have similar names.
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:14amI saw a video of them using it in Pittsburgh in 2009 on – I believe they were Bilderberg conspiracy theorists. It was very impressive! It looked like a military state with the police marching alongside the vehicle – not something I imagined could happen in America. You could almost feel the ear-piercing pain from the LRAD just by watching the video. It seemed like overkill at the time because the crowd didn’t appear very large, but I wasn’t there – there could have been a lot more people behind the field of vision of the camera. I can understand the reason for using it in this case though.
Report Post »usernametaken
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:14amI think water canons would be way ‘cooler’ …literally
Report Post »1389AD
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 6:39pmWater cannons would be perfect with the addition of a little antibacterial soap!
Report Post »UBETHECHANGE
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:06amCan we buy stock and invest in this company?
Report Post »InversionTheory
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:47amYES WE CAN!
LRAD is the ticker symbol. Trades on Nasdaq — Price $1.90/share as of 11:31am.
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:58amThey’re just trying it out on the occupiers before they use it on the rest of us.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:10amThey could go low-tech..just set up a jobs booth instead. Besides..it’s wise to test the device on animals.
Report Post »The Jewish Avenger
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:15amThanks! I LAWL’d on that one! :D
Report Post »gpaw
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:20amYour are right!People wake up to whats really going on!
Report Post »PeteHDO
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 4:23pmANENGERK fanatastic idea oh I was laughing all the time while hurrying to log in;
Report Post »simple solution JOB FAIR BOOTHS!
ares338
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:58amSure they use sound technology. They play over and over on the loud speaker “take a bath….take a bath….take a bath” and it sends them into spasms of terror!
Report Post »Red Meat
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:04amScrew this expensive high tech voodoo. 00 buck is cheap and prevents re occurrence.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 1:27pm@ redmeat, you are sounding alot like the people who villified the TEA Party and still do. So either you are a plant to make the rest of us look bad, or you are two-faced and don‘t respect the personal liberties of others such as the right to protest gov’t. While individual acts of violence, theft, rape, and vandalism should all be dealt with accordingly, there should not be a movement to murder everyone who takes part in this movement.
I am saying this as a Libertarian, TEA partier, US Marine, and 8/28 attendee. No one should be murdered for protesting gov’t in a peaceful albeit boistrous manner.
Report Post »Conkuur
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 5:57pmSGBT I personally believe in the near future WE will be the ones hunted down. I don’t think you understand we are going to have to stand or be knocked down and the time will be soon. While I certainly don’t think violence is the best measure but sometimes it becomes THE ONLY measure left. The Tea Party could could fart roses and unicorns and it will never endear you to this enemy that is in motion. The time will come soon where we will either fight or surrender. I don’t plan on doing the latter. I hope you don’t either.
Report Post »1389AD
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 6:37pm@sgtb,
There’s nothing peaceful about the way Occupiers have been behaving lately. Occupying land that they don’t own, without permission, is not peaceful; it’s a violation of the law. Creating a public nuisance with noise, filth, vermin, disease, fire hazards, blocking traffic, theft, rape, fights, outdoor urination/defecation/fornication, and other violations of the law are not peaceful either.
Since when is indiscriminate public pooping a form of Constitutionally protected political speech?
I mean, let’s have some common sense here!
Report Post »bailey08
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:57amJust blast out SOLYNDRA or FAST/FURIOUS and watch Obama supporters scatter.
Report Post »The OWS idiots wouldn‘t care but regular Dems and the lapdog media don’t want to hear it.
Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:56amI have heard of these things on the show of Discovery Channels “future weapons.” Incredible indeed, and these are some messages that can be sent:
“Unleash the soap and water!”
Report Post »“Notice – The javalinas and boars are coming shortly…FLEE while you can!”
“Prepare the earthquake machines…:”
“We will now play Newt Gingrich’s entire Congressional Speech Library…”
RichNGadsden
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:04amAbout a year before I retired I was present when the Army was testing one of these. Even at low volumes my earplugs with Mickey Mouse ears over them failed. Very uncomfortable and disorienting. But, this crowd has been disoriented from day one.
Report Post »Shellback
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:08amOr play a montage of Hillary Clinton‘s and Nancy Pelosi’s speaches. Now that is what torture really is like.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:28am@Rich
You may or may not know this, but you’re the only guy I know with experience with them based on your comments. I’m curious; is there a reasonable defense against these things, other than “not being anywhere near them”? I strongly suspect that it won’t be long before they turn these on us, and I’d like to be able to stand there and smirk, because that’s just how I roll. :)
Report Post »RichNGadsden
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 12:50pmGHOSTOFJEFFERSON, The directorate that I was in at USAMPS at the time had an R&D section which our doctrine section worked hand in hand with at times. I was only present for a demonstration, but as far as I know there is really no defence from the sound as long as one is in it’s range. I also got to watch other demonstrations of what we called the flying bagel, and the hydraulic deer stand. You had to be there. One of my son’s Metal Gear games has the flying bagels in one of the levels, but these I believe are armed. What I saw was for surveillance only.
Report Post »RichNGadsden
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 1:05pmGHOSTOFJEFFERSON, I suppose it could be used against the general public, but they would have to manufacture a boat load of them to disperse successfully about the country to be successful. That would also require a large number of police/military who would be willing to use such technology on the public. I may be naive considering that I have been both in the military and a civilian cop to hope that the majority of both would refuse to use any such weaponry on the public in general. Then again, I did know some absolute thugs in either uniform who would be willing to do just about anything just to feel the power. I hope for your sake that you never have to experience anything like this. Since you are in Ohio I guess you have to be aware of the screwball type cops like the one who has been in a couple of videos here on The Blaze.
Report Post »On another point, if anything like this was used on a peaceful Tea Party rally and rally does describe their gatherings as opposed to demonstrations, at least the likes of Fox News would expose it to the public. Also, Rush, and Beck along with other radio talks show hosts would do the same. I could imagine the likes of BSNBC lauding such an act though. Martin Bashir comes to mind when I think of this.
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 1:24pm@Rich
Thanks for the information! I have no idea what to expect from the rank and file military/police, the last time I was in uniform was in the 1980′s and a lot has changed since then.
Report Post »Sgt_Rock
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 4:17pm@GhostofJeff – I guess I’m confused as to why some here seem to think that the majority of rank and file police officers would turn such a device on a peaceful assembly or the public in general. I’ve been a cop for over thirty years and did 30 years of (4)active and (26) reserve military service. I have seen the generational change in both police officers and soldiers, but the one thing that hasn’t changed is their knowledge and understanding of who it is they work for, especially when it comes to the police officers. Just because they don’t bow in servitude to every citizen who demands “do you know who I am?” when they get caught screwing up, doesn’t mean they are going to kick in doors, take guns and burn books just because some a**wipe like BHO says so. If you think that is the case then you have no concept of how most local, county ,or state cops think. We place our communities first. We couldn‘t care less about what the Feds think and don’t work for or answer to them. I constantly see reference here to “they will come for us” or “when they come for us” Who the hell is THEY? Rest assured it isn’t the local cops, in fact I doubt it will be anyone who has raised their hand to uphold the Constitution. Including GIs. No US soldier will ever turn a weapon on the US populous. Our military leadership will never let it happen. If it came to it, they know which side of the line they will stand on, and it won’t be the side with traitors like BHO if he issued such an
Report Post »RichNGadsden
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 4:40pmSGT_ROCK, You have no idea how I hope you are right in everything you say. I in no way want to knock any cop on duty or retired, but I have met my share who I will never in my life trust. While both in the service and as a civilian. On the other hand, I have met the majority who are the brave upstanding patriots I expect them to be. There is a small minority that I do not trust, as well as some of their leadership. Been there and done that as well I am sure you have met your share of miscreants. Not all are perfect. I must say that I found more of those that I did not trust on the civilian side. Then, there was the surprising survey that a Marine officer did back during the Clinton administration of so many young Marines who responded that they would take up arms against the American public if ordered to do so. There seemed to have been no understanding of the Posse Commutates Act..
Report Post »Sgt_Rock
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 4:42pmContinued…such an order. I feel confident that none of my officers or former soldiers, would participate in anything such as the brown shirt antics of the 3rd Riech in the 30s.
@rich – I don’t know about many thug cops, but maybe if Recruiting Command would quit changing their waiver criteria we wouldn’t have thugs in the ranks, or gang graffiti in theater?
Report Post »RichNGadsden
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 6:01pmSGT_ROCK, I live in the south and while I must admit that many of the fellow officers I worked with are fine upstanding patriots many were not. I don’t trust some, and am no longer a civilian cop because of that. I should stand up for the many who are wonderful humanitarians and wonderful policemen. I as well hope that most if not all will stand up for the true rights of the many as opposed to the crap of the left. But, there are some I personally know who make me wonder.
Report Post »tom0702
Posted on November 19, 2011 at 2:38pmSnowleopard: Best laughs I’ve had all week! Keep em coming!
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:55amLMAO I looked at this article and there was an ad for migraine headaches here. How appropriate. LMAO
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:55amGlenn I think if you check this out, you’ll find this sound technology to control protesters was developed by Israel about a year or two ago and has been used on Palestians thrwoing rocks at them to prevent casualties!
Report Post »RichNGadsden
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:13amI think you are right about the Israelis getting the ball rolling regarding this technology, but I was present for a military test about fifteen years ago. It’s been around quite a while as part of the Less Than Lethal technology.
Report Post »RichNGadsden
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:15amShould have mentioned that much of the Less Than Lethal technology began in Israel as their attempt to not have to use lethal force against Palestinians during their riots. Wow, that’s now what they would do if the rolls were reversed.
Report Post »Gary Fishaholic
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 4:01pmThat’s a good thing I was wondering if Israel had this technology they would certainly save a lot of lives using it. Which is why they helped develop it if that’s the case.
Thanks for the info!
Report Post »littlefish
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:53amMic the OWS “mic Check” cult-mantras and send it back to them amplified till their own words blow their heads off
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:59am24/7 Ronald Reagan quotes… should do the trick!
Report Post »thegreatcarnac
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:53amThey play a speech of obama trying to speak without his teleprompter. Midway…you begin to have projectile vomitting.
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:52amWe are currently a lawless nation.
P e t i t i o n…to indict Eric Holder
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LimaBean
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:50am….wonder if it has them same effects as the “brown noise”.
Report Post »OhioRifleman
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 2:41pmMythbusters busted the brown note. Nothing they hit Adam with would cause the brown stuff.
Report Post »LimaBean
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 5:50pmYes, I know (I saw that episode too).Serve them right if it did.
Report Post »TyrannyNoMore
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:37pmIt worked on South Park !
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:47amTry the Amplified sound of running bath water. Or maybe some anti-drug speeches from reformed addicts?
Report Post »reconmarine
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:58amObama would accuse them of waterboarding then.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:02amThis is what they should be using.
Report Post »The Active Denial System (ADS) is a non-lethal, directed-energy weapon developed by the U.S. military. It is a strong millimeter-wave transmitter primarily used for crowd control (the “goodbye effect”. Some ADS such as HPEM ADS are also used to disable vehicles. Informally, the weapon is also called the heat ray. The ADS works by firing a high-powered beam of electromagnetic radiation in the form of high-frequency millimeter waves at 95 GHz a wavelength of 3.2 mm. Similar to the same way that a microwave oven heats food, the millimeter waves excite the water and fat molecules in the body, instantly heating it and causing intense pain.
Mark13
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:05amPlay some Barbra Streisand songs at them. They’ll never come back.
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:18am@Mark:Then Every time I Watched the news on OWS idiocy I would have to hear her,Besides don’t the Communist love her or something? I am curious to know how long before they us it on us after Obama Declares martial law and becomes dictator?
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:44amI hope the OWS protestors make their own sound cannons and split some Nazi eardrums.
Contact V-Man Mace for specifications and design formats.
We can tune our sound cannons to the “brown note” and make all those Nazis poop their pants in their little Nazi Uniforms.
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:19amThe Nazis are supporters of OWS.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:36amAnd the Marxist, and Anarchists, and the “I want stuff, but don’t want to pay for it” crowd.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:52amThe Nazis are the Armed Unionized Militarized Federalized Thugs in Riot Gear.
Try again. Stop playing semantical games with me. I’m not referencing the National Socialist PARTY.
Report Post »Sue Dohnim
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 12:19pmV-Man Mace,
Gotcha, you mean SEIU
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 12:27pmv-mace, you’re making a lot of sensei.
Report Post »Skee
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 12:40pmVman,
Report Post »When you say Nazi’s, you are referencing The National Socialist Party.
If your talking about the police and think they’re thugs, then call them
the AUMFT, not Nazi’s.
At what point do the occupiers violate my right to get to work and earn money to
feed my family. Should they be allowed to block roadways or destroy public
property. That doesn’t fall under the constitution under the right to peacefully
assembly and list grievances. The so called police state doesn’t surround
the entire state or even the city, just the cancer within the city.
I do support their right to assemble, if they’re respectful of the rights of the
other citizens rights.
By the way the police must have the ever ellusive “brown note”.
There is evidence of it all over the park.
V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 12:43pmSeiu is a union too, and they support the Unionized Nazis in uniform, they all just banded together to defeat SB5 (collective bargaining) in my State of Ohio, against my Governor’s and my own better judgement.
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Posted on November 18, 2011 at 1:14pmSkee
When I say Nazis, I’m referring to the Nazis in Nazi Uniforms (the same style made by Hugo Boss who also made REAL Nazi uniforms, just minus the Nazi trinkets), that act the same way as a Nazi to the public. There’s an extensive history of violence at the hands of these Nazis in America.
The Police State is coming to a neighborhood near you, and on your highways.
VIPR Teams…GO!!!!
Mobile Guard Towers…GO!!!!
FEMA Camps…GO!!!!
THREAT FUSION CENTERS…GO!!!!!
RC PATROL DRONES…GO!!!!
SURVEILLANCE LIGHTPOLE…GO!!!!
WIFI HACKING DRONES….GO!!!
This is like an episode of Dark Angel with Jessica Alba!
Report Post »Ssenkrad
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 9:14pmYou know… while I severely disagree with OWS on every issue, and I find the crimes that are commented at these events to be atrocious, I find myself agreeing with V-Man on this one. We can root and cheer all we want that the police are fighting against OWS, but whose to say they won’t turn on us? The more power, technology, and equipment the police get, the better equipped they are to silence any sort of opposition to the government or society, especially conservative or libertarian views.
A police state is a very serious possibility that we have to take into account here. I’m honestly kind of frightened at some of the technology the police have, as well as their audacity to say, I don’t know, attach wireless tracking devices to cars without permission.
Report Post »TyrannyNoMore
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:44pmYour adolescent stupidity boggles the mind ! Nazis were the National (Socialist) Party of Germany. They would be right there with you and all the other OWS maggots if they were alive today. They were a leftest, fascist regime. Try though you might, you can not rewrite history.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 19, 2011 at 12:21amTyrannyNoMore
Shut up. I just told the other dude that I’m not playing semantical games with him ,and that goes for you too.
You prepubescent peachfuzz.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:43amIsn’t there a noise that sounds like a mosquito that only people under 30 can hear? Kids were using it as a cell phone ring in class, the teacher couldn’t hear it. Broadcast that sound over the machine at 140db and watch them scatter.
Report Post »Timothy_Reid
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:40amTurn it on , Turn it up, and Turn them out…….
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:36amTHEY SHOULD BE USING THIS AT ALL OWS INFESTATIONS
i have been wondering why they havnt yet
3…………2………….1………………….. protests over !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:39amA new site…Expose Occupy Wall Street
http://kleinonline.wnd.com/category/expose-occupy/
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:42amLook at all the happy little neocons giddy over new police state weaponry being used against their fellow countrymen!
YAY!!!
Bootlicking time!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:31amV-MANGE…your stinky little buddies keep saying “non-violent”..the got “non-violent”…still whining?
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:51amThey’re not my “buddies”, they ARE my fellow countrymen, and you are too, you’re just an idiotic one.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 12:33pmdid you pout and stamp your foot while you typed that peurile response V-MANGE? LOL.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 12:40pmNo, I laughed at you, imbecile, while I typed that response, and this one.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 12:59pmBut V-MANGE…you’re not understanding what was presented to you…your stinky little buddies at OWS..sorry..new brand name…”99%“ have robotically bleated ”non-violent” to everyone within earshot..or smelling distance…well…they this device is “non-violent”. Why are you still whining?
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 1:08pmBut it isn’t non-violent, it can cause hearing damage.
Try again. I never accepted your silly assertion that directed energy weapons are non-violent.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 1:49pmCommies in 1930′ Germany was cheering when brown shirts was attacking jews.
Report Post »I’m not supporting ows at all, so far police is doing great job. Let those stinky hippies scream and play they drums. It will not be forever. Remember this. Who attack first, lose.
DON’T ENGAGE THIS STUPID HIPPIES WITH ANY FORCE. They will destroy them self. Just give some time.
AvengerK
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 1:51pmLoud music causes hearing damage too V-MANGE, is loud music a violent weapon?…you think there’s any concert goers among your stinky OWS friends? How about police getting acidic liquid thrown in their faces…non-violent enough for you and your stinky buddies champ?
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 3:38pmAvenjerK
Your stupid comparison of a directed energy weapon to a loudspeaker is illustrative of your simplicity, Simple Simon.
Silence, peon.
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 7:42pm@V-MAN-MACE: Were you re-assigned to troll duty by Soros/MediaMatters? Too cold outside? Too ineffective?
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 19, 2011 at 12:23amThatsitivehadenough
Oh wow, how stupid are you, I’ve been posting on this site since Sept of 2010.
Try again, idiot.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:35amJust don’t play the Grateful Dead over that thing, those freaks would never leave.
Report Post »Sue Dohnim
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:49amWhen I read the headline, I thought they were going to play Glenn Beck shows 24/7 over loud speakers to the Occupy crowd..
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:59amThat would thin the croud quickly Sue.
Report Post »PPMStudios
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 12:02pmYeah but, it would also give them some semblance of the ‘Free’ education they’re bitching about!!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:34amWell thank goodness, I’d hate to think that they were using unsound technology! I mean really, would any crowd be controlled with gizmos that had springs popping out of them making that strange “boing!” noise?
Report Post »ozchambers
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:41amLol!
Report Post »RichNGadsden
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:44amDittos on that LOL. Actually, I have heard some of the early versions of this and if used as loud as the equipment shipboard against those pirates. The noise will not be the big bother to the Occupies, but rather the falling glass shards. Bet it would clear the area out though.
Report Post »RichNGadsden
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 10:48amFor the old Steppenwolf fans, “Earschplittenloudenboomer.”
Report Post »jeezpeeps
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:00pmOh Lord, protect us… please not that dreaded boing sound… lol! Thats good stuff.
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