Biden: Obama ‘Rage’ Article is ‘Science Fiction’
- Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:06am by
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Vice President Joe Biden appeared with Rachel Maddow yesterday and chided Newt Gingrich for echoing Dinesh D‘Souza’s new “garbage” article in Forbes, which suggests Barack Obama‘s policies are a reflection of his father’s ideas.
The article, titled “How Obama Thinks” and adopted from D‘Souza’s new book The Roots of Obama’s Rage, explains how Obama has been influenced by his father’s anti-colonial thinking. Gingrich called the article the “most profound insight I have read in the last six years about Barack Obama.”
But Biden used D‘Souza’s article to point out how Washington is losing moderate voices. “Look at that Forbes magazine article about the president,” he told Maddow. “If you read it, the article reads like science fiction. … And guys like Newt Gingrich repeating that garbage?”
The vice president dismissed the article, and Gingrich’s support of it, as an attempt to discredit one of the greatest politicians in recent memory:
I mean, this is kind of — what’s happened on the Republican side. … When you can’t compete in ideas, what you do is the same playbook out of the conservative playbook. You try to delegitimize the other guy. That’s what’s going on … the attempt to delegitimize one of the most talented men to enter American politics in three generations.
Yesterday, Glenn Beck interviewed D’Souza about the article:
(Editor’s note: In the spirit of full disclosure, I want to point out that D’Souza is the president of my Alma mater, The King’s College-New York City.)
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unionrockstar
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:30amWhat’s so insane about having to show your birth certificate? I live in a state where anyone who attempts to get a drivers license must bring their birth certificate with them.
Report Post »If we have to do it ———– shouldn’t our President do the same for us?
I‘m not implying that he wasn’t born here. The fact is; I don’t know if he was or not because he refuses to provide a copy of his original birth certificate and so does the Governor of Hawaii
wingedwolf
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 11:17amUNIONROCKSTAR, well said. I have not once questioned whether or not this president is a born citizen, although I reason that it‘s likely as his mother probably couldn’t afford to do much globe-trotting as a single pregnant woman back then, although I could be wrong. But, since it has been brought up so many times, I would think that any reasonable person would have long ago plastered copies of my birth certificate all over the place, billboards, the internet, telephone poles, therefore there must be something fishy going on. Why would anyone subject their heritage to this?
Report Post »Bobert
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 12:44pmI‘m happy to see in Glenn’s video that he made it clear that Mr. D‘Souza’s new book is not a “Birther” book. To date, I have seen no hard evidence that Mr. Obama was born anywhere other than the State of Hawaii. However, I would include myself in the camp of the “Constitutionalists” which believe that the “natural born Citizen” clause of Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the US Constitution means naturally-attained citizenship where the person is born on U.S. soil to two U.S citizens, which would preclude dual citizenship. This status as a “natural born Citizen” is something that takes place at one’s birth. It is not something you can obtain later. It is also not something that can be granted to you by the 14th Amendment and not something that you can have taken away from you (unless you officially renounce your U.S. citizenship). The inclusion of the term “natural born Citizen” was a security requirement intentionally built into the U.S. Constitution by the Framers that applies to only one job in the Federal Government, and that is the requirement to be a “natural born Citizen” to hold the title of President and Commander-in-Chief of the United States. [NOTE: Please do not confuse being a US citizen or a naturalized citizen with the term “natural born Citizen”. They are NOT the same thing. Under current US law, just by being born on US soil would make Mr. Obama a US citizen (regardless of whether either parent was a US citizen at the time of his birth). The term “natural born Citizen” only appears one time in the Constitution, and that applies to the requirement to hold the office of the President of the United States. To be a member of the House or Senate, you only need to be a US citizen – but DO NOT have to be a natural born Citizen.
Obama’s father was not an immigrant to the US. He never applied for and was never granted US citizenship. He was a Kenyan and a British citizen at the time of Obama’s birth, and Obama’s own Fight the Smears campaign website admitted that Obama junior was also a British citizen when he was born.
Unfortunately for all of us, the Founders did not include a definition of who is included in the definition of “natural born Citizen”, but several individuals attempted to have the courts clear up this potential issue before Mr. Obama was sworn into office – all of which were dismissed due to a “lack of standing”. It is STILL critical that this issue be resolved by the US Supreme Court sooner rather than later. If the Court determines that have one parent (Mr. Obama’s mother) as a US Citizen with Mr. Obama born on US soil is sufficient to establish natural born Citizenship, pursuant to the intent of the drafters of Article 2 of the Constitution, then the matter is resolved in the President’s favor. However, if it turns out that the US Supreme Court determines that natual born Citizenship requires being born on US soil to two US citizens, then Mr. Obama would be ineligible to hold the position of President of the United States and then, suddenly, all legislation enacted and signed by the President would be revoked, all Supreme Court justices appointed by Mr. Obama would have to be removed, all federal judges appointed by Mr. Obama would be removed and all of the cases heard by those judges would immediatley be appealed, etc. Not a pretty picture, but better to resolve this outstanding issue now and minimize any damage that might arise should the US Supreme Court determine that the Framers intended “natural born Citizen” to require being born on US soil to two US citizen at the time of the person’s birth.
Report Post »Randyrocker
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 1:22pmThe new Republican House and Senate should make sure that Congress passes a law that any one running for the office of President of the United States of America, must show his or her Birth Certificate to the Supreme Court Justices and it must be put on display for the members of the House and Senate to authorize as legitimate, along with full disclosure to the media. Making this a fundamental condition of one’s candidacy, showing proof of national origin of birth, will make any candidate unable to so, to think twice about running for the highest office in the land. Furthermore it would should and must also include proof on the part of the sitting President as well. This will smoke out and find out once and for all, the legitimate truth, about whether or not Barack Obama is a legitimate US President or not. If he isn‘t and can’t prove it in the 2012 election, watch him run as fast as he can back to his home in Chicago, and let Biden and Hillary slug it out.
Report Post »A new Republican Congress can do this if they are willing enough, and brave enough to do so. One thing’s for sure a lot of laws that were passed including Health Care will no longer be legal if Obama is unable to legitimize his place of birth. To a large extent this is why most of Washington is afraid to find out, because of the Chaos that it would create.
Bobert
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 2:31pmI think that it is critically important that the US Supreme Court determine the meaning of “natural born Citizen” – not just for this President, but for any/all future candidates. Can a person born in the US to one or two non-US Citizen ever serve as President? What about a person born to parents who are not yet citizens, but are here legally seeking to become citizens? What about a child born on foreign soil to US parents on a US military base? What about a child born in a foreign land to US parents in the military, but the child is born “off-base”? Would it make any difference if a child was born in the US to one US citizen and one parent that is not yet a citizen, but is going through the naturalization process and has revoke his/her foreign citizenship? What about a child born to two US parents in a US protectorate like Guam or Puerto Rico?
Again, we are not asking; “Are these people US citizens?” We are asking; “Are these people born under these circumstances eligible to serve as POTUS based on the Constitutional requirement that they be a ‘natural born Citizen’”. If the US Supreme Court determines that, based on the intent of the Framers, these individual do not meet the requirement, does it make sense to to amend Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 by removing “natural born Citizen” and replacing it with “United States Citizen” or United States Citizen born on US soil? In today’s world, is being a US Citizen sufficient? Would we have a problem with a child born in Canada who has lived in the US for the past 14 years, is at least 35 years old, and has become a US Citizen becoming a US President? What if the child was born in Iran, or Iraq, or Saudi Arabia?
2008 was the perfect time to have the US Supreme Court answer this question as it related to both Mr. Obama and Mr. MaCain (I realize that the US Senate passed a non-binding resolution affirming that Mr. McCain met the definition of “natural born Citizen”, but unfortunately, it is not within the authority of the Senate to interpret and rule on the US Constitution, that role is left to the US Supreme Court, so this no-binding resolution would not have been worth the paper that it was written on if the US Supreme Court ruled that Mr. McCain failed to meet the Constitutional definition), but the failed to do so, and We The People, may be stuck the potentially disastrous consequences should this President or a future President be later held to have failed to meet this Constitutional requirement.
Report Post »Quazza
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 3:08pmDid you know that there are traceable announcements in newspapers about his birth, right?
Even if he wasn’t born here…it doesn’t matter anymore. He is the president now. You know that if he had been born somewhere else that they won’t strip the presidency from him over it at this point.
Report Post »Bobert
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 5:23pmQuazza,
I have seen no verifiable evidence of any kind that conclusive proves that Mr. Obama was born anywhere other than the great State of Hawaii. Therefore, unless/until there is any verifiable, non-hearsay evidence to the contrary, I full agree with you that Mr. Obama is a United States citizen born in Hawaii.
I am not asking for proof of where he was born or if he is a US citizen. I am asking the question; “Does Mr. Obama being born to one US Citizen (his mother) and one non-US Citizen (his British father, Barack Obama Sr.) comply with Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the United State Constitution which requires the President to i) be at least 35 years of age; ii) have lived in the US for at least the past 14 years; and 3) be a natural born Citizen?”
I have found no evidence showing where the Founders clearly defined what it means to be a “natural born Citizen”. There are those out there who have stated that the Founders relied upon Vattel’s book “Law of Nations” which requires being born on US soil to two US citizens. I have also heard of people who have quoted a letter from James Madison to Thomas Jefferson at the time of the drafting of the Constitution suggesting that one of the conditions to being President and Commander in Chief be that the President have no divided loyalties and that they add the “natural born Citizenship” requirement to all persons born after enactment (and thus excluding the Founders from this Requirement since many, if not all indeed all, were British citizens at birth).
Notwithstanding the forgoing, the US Supreme Court has never specifically ruled on what the definition of “natural born Citizen” means with regard to the US Presidential Constitutional requirement. That is the question that I would like resolved. It would have been best for ALL parties involved if this had been addressed prior to the 2008 general election (giving both the Dems and Republicans the opportunity to find replacement candidates in the event the court ruled their respective candidate ineligible).
After they way Mr. Obama insulted the conservative Justices at his State of the Union speech this past year, do you really believe that the Court (with Ms. Sotomayor and Mr. Steven’s replacement being recused from ruling on the matter since they were appointed by President Obama) would balk at ruling that Mr. Obama has failed to meet the Constitution requirements to serve as President if the facts and research prove as such – and that, after this 2010 election, with a House most likely controlled by Republicans (and perhaps the Senate as well), would not seek President Obama’s immediate removal (keeping in mind that this would not be an impeachment – and impeachment is meant for a lawfully sitting President – if the Court finds that Mr. Obama never met the requirements to serve as President, then the only action is to have him removed [by force if necessary] as a usurper).
Again, I believe that this exact same ruling from the Court would be called for today if Mr. McCain had been elected President. And I think it was foolish for the Republican Party not to ask the US Supreme Court to rule on Mr. McCain’s eligibility to establish, for certain, that he had, in the US Supreme Court’s eyes, met the Constitutional requirements. To find out before the election would have been embarrassing. To find out AFTER if your candidate won and then had to be removed would have been the biggest political blunder in US History.
We shall see how History plays out – but imagine the embarrassment if all of the legislation passed since President Obama’s inauguration had to be repealed and revoked. Imagine if this Supreme Court ruling takes place after 2012 and the two liberal Supreme Court justices appointed by Mr. Obama are removed from the bench (since they were not properly nominated by a valid US President) and, at that time, there is a Republican President along with a Republican majority in the House and Senate – it could lead to a massive ideological shift to the right on the bench, and if the two conservative replacement nominees are in there late 40‘s or early 50’s, it could mean a heavily leaning Conservative court for the next 30 to 40 years.
Shame on America, the media, and the US Senate for not doing its job and clear up this matter before the 2008 elections.
Report Post »red penny
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:27amBig Joe has suffered from “Foot In Mouth” disease for decades. Guess he hasn’t found out yet that STUPIDTY is a terminal affliction.
Report Post »Holly Woods
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:10amThe apple does not fall far from the tree. It is just more of the same — rethoric-based nonsense in strawman arguments and completely false analogies. This quy can’t even get the job numbers right from the stimulus program and his state is ready to give his seat to a Republican challenger stands against big government, big spending and the good ole’boy network.
1. First this is not a tax cut. It is a TAX INCREASE. Obama wants to increase taxes, not cut them. Keeping taxes exactly as they are is not a cut.
2. Biden‘s precious stimulus program has cost US citizen’s more than the entire 8-year Iraq war that freed an entire nation. We will have little or nothing to show for the stimulus, except for debt that we will pass on to future generations. It has been more like a “wreckovery summer.”
3. Taxing the rich can only get you so farm and then it backfires. The rich are generally the risk-takers and the job creators. You can tax every single dollar of revenue at 100% from people that make over $1 Million dollars and it would only cover the federal spending of this nation for less than a week. Why kill the golden goose when unemployment is at an all time high. It doesn’t make sense.
4. The argument that the Republicans do not have any ideas does not hold up. They say they want ideas from the other side of the isle. When he gets the, he and his administration do exactly what he is accusing the Republicans of. He tries to de-legitimatize them.
5. It is extremely unbecoming of a sitting Vice President to call out private citizen’s for simply voicing opinions in a nation that stands on the principles and values of of free speech. The book is not even out yet, but somehow he opinion of it.
Report Post »Trying2Understand
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:07amEr, why are they holding hands? Clinton appears to be feeling a bit left out…
Report Post »Star Spankled
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:06amPoor Joe , they only pull him out and let him speak when Obama needs defending . I’d bet her never read the article.
Report Post »His handlers give him his opinion just before he goes on camera so he doesn’t forget .
mutt
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:04amThe pressure building towards November is taking its toll on the Dimocrats thinking. 50% denial, 50% delusional. If these people weren’t in charge of the greatest nation on earth, it would real fun to watch the death spiral. God help us if another real crises hits ( or is created by them), these clowns are clearly not up to the job. ie laser light focus, no rest until…. on jobs, unemployment, immigration, Iran, North Korea, the economy, the Gulf oil spill, Gitmo, Iraq (end of Combat????), Afghanistan, Arizona law suits, drilling bans, Mosques at Ground Zero, etc,etc,etc…… But they have mastered the White House Social calender and golf.
Report Post »kuuk1
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:04amJoe Biden, who can really take anything you say to heart? Your a yes man, so while America is being torn apart you go along with the liberal, progressive, socialist ideals. When will you stand for truth? You have let the American people down! you are just one of many senators that there should be term limits!
Report Post »Starting of 2006 America took a nose dive thanks to senators like you and Obama. You liberals made sure that America was going to get in debt, stop blaming Bush and take responsibility for how you liberals are destroying America. And show the American people what jobs you created…..I’m waiting.
heidi586
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:00amThe interview yesterday with Glenn was very interesting and filled with information (given in a way) that I‘d say most people haven’t thought about. I’m going to read the book – especially now that the admin feels the need to defend…hahaha but really Joe Blunder Biden??
Report Post »mtnclimberjim
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:51amJoe even flunked barry’s ebonics class.
Report Post »wingedwolf
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 11:03amNo one with an education can speak ebonics.
Report Post »flyguync
Posted on September 17, 2010 at 1:22amI read somewhere recently the DEA was hiring ebonics interpretors so they could decipher surveilance recordings. No joke.
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:48amPLEASE, I IMPLORE YOU, do not give Rachel Madcow ANY publicity. I can‘t even watch that video you posted because I don’t want to lose my breakfast. PLEASE NO RACHEL EVER AGAIN. UGH, don’t bring the site down. Between her and Maher you’re killing me here. Use their names, but please no visuals. No one listens to JOE either. :)
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 11:38amWow way to close minded.
Report Post »A Extremist
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 11:56amEqual J, I had the same reaction. I find little on MSNBC worth paying attention to. It really is painful to watch such stupidity.
Report Post »BlueknightUSA
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 12:31pmHave to agree. in a choice between RM and a root canal…I will take the dentist chair!
Report Post »@ Stupid Windmill…I think your momma’s calling. Time to go back to the basement
LadyLibertea
Posted on September 17, 2010 at 1:17amUghh…I totally agree. MAdcow with her boy hair and condesending tone drive me up the wall. Her voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me.
Report Post »AirtechJr
Posted on September 17, 2010 at 5:29am“Way TOO closed minded”. Heck all I have is a high school education. But I have fed a lot of people out of my company over the last 20 years. Too busy working to support the non workng to havetime to care. No more!
Report Post »tomika18
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:47amListen to Biden. That is all they do, delegitimize some one or something if they do not agree with it.Speaking of garbage. That is all Biden speaks and Obama too.He is lost without his stupid telepromter.
Report Post »Will NV
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:44amMorons are at large in the Oval Office.
Report Post »cjkinpa
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:44amDe-legitimize people? I believe that is right out of his night time reading assignment from Barry – Saul Alinsky. Poor Joe, he’s nothing if not loyal. That hapless dolt has to go out and defend the most dishonest and arrogant individual ever to hold public office.
Report Post »tomika18
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:44amIs Biden nuts? That is all they do, legitimize someone or something they do not like or if they do not agree with it. Talking about garbage. Just listen to him and to Obama. He could not speak a word without the idiot teleprompter.
Report Post »Broker
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:34amJoe: How can a man that says J-O-B-S is a 3 letter word be taken seriously about anything?
Report Post »MattyFos
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:34am“I mean, this is kind of — what’s happened on the Republican side. … When you can’t compete in ideas, what you do is the same playbook out of the conservative playbook. You try to delegitimize the other guy. That’s what’s going on … the attempt to delegitimize one of the most talented men to enter American politics in three generations.”
Uh, replace ‘Republican’ with ‘Democrat’. Replace ‘conservative’ with ‘Rules for Radicals’. Replace both ‘delegitimize’ statements with ‘paint them as racis’t. And replace ‘most talented man to enter American politics in three generations’ with ‘THE AMERICAN PEOPLE’
Do all of those things, read it aloud and Joe Biden makes a lot of sense.
Report Post »ANTIPATHIZER308WIN
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:33amAnd people worried about being Palin being one step away from the oval office. Talking about science fiction … I personally thought I stepped into the Twilight Zone watching the Presidential results coming in 2008. Rod Serling stepped in front of my TV and started to say, “Imagine a place and time in America when a candidate for president told the electorate that he was going to FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE AMERICA and no one asked him what the hell he meant by that and just voted the space alien into office. You have now entered the TWILIGHT ZONE!”
Report Post »BehindBlueEyes
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:48amGood one! Before the 2008 elections I read the book “The Obama Nation”. After reading it I thought to myself Americas will never elect this guy. Apparently, a lot of Americans took his “hope and change” and “fundamental transformation of America” hook, line and sinker. We should always question with boldness and educate ourselves so we don’t get sucked in with catchy phrases.
Report Post »dollfin
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 11:04amVery clever! This site, sure lends for some bright literary comments! That was so well done!
Report Post »MariaW
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 1:49pmThere are 2 types of voters, smart and stupid. You BehindBlueEyes, are one of the smart ones. You took the time to find out about the candidate and made a choice…unfortunatley, most of the voters probably have never even read a book in their lives. You saw the videos of the ones chanting Obama Obama…Obama is gonna pay my bills and my rent. IDIOTS!
Report Post »KrlyQ
Posted on September 17, 2010 at 8:29amThat was awesome; great analogy. You summed up my feelings on the evening of 11/4/08.
Report Post »pilgrim2497
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:32amThe African Christ
Usurping a place meant for Jesus alone.
The African Christ now ascends to the throne.
The African Christ set to reign and to rule,
Put there by cowards and pagans and fools.
The African Christ coming out of the East,
With a message of change from the soul of the Beast.
Born as a counterfeit source of salvation.
Born now to bring down a God-ordained nation.
Born as the anti-Moses in his function.
Born to lead multitudes into destruction.
Born the Israel of God to betray.
Born as the herald of Earth’s darkest day.
ms
Report Post »seayalater73
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:00amThat has to be about the dumbest thing I have heard today… and I’m in Iraq (ses it all.)
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:40amThe above verses should be included in the Webster’s Dictionary under “Omam Obama” as the definition. A PICTURE of our “Black Plastic Jesus” would complete the listing.
Report Post »dollfin
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 11:01amThat was actually pretty darn good! One revision though: Should be: “African Anti-Crist”.
Report Post »wingedwolf
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 11:08amI think it’s perfectly on point. Kudos for finding a creative and non-destructive outlet to express the feelings of betrayal felt all over this great country courtesy of this president. LOL
Report Post »shastadiane
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:37pmGreat Poem…Congrats.
Report Post »seayalater73
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:31amJoe Bidden is one of the creepiest figures in DC. He hasn’t got any non-union generated ideas rattling in his skull, and he’s delegitimized Obama both during and after the election, and he’s throwing out that kind of accusation against Newt? Really? And he wonders why we want stuffed shirts like him out of our government…
Report Post »DSTSS2010
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:29amBiden is an IDIOT! D‘Souza’s book is based on Obama’s own words, so if it is “Science Fiction” it‘s Obama’s fiction!
Report Post »wingedwolf
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 11:01amI know, and I love it when they hoist themselves with their own petards!!!
Report Post »nostromo
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:28amNewt’s time is passed. Even Biden, as an elite insider, doesnt recognize what is happening. Karl Rove’s time is passed. The old guard is being swept aside and they dont even know it yet. My fear is that these dinosaurs will throw in their lot with Democratic insiders to short circuit this populist uprising. The aristocracy has more in common with each other than they do with us.
Report Post »OptimusSubPrime
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:47amWell said.
Report Post »Conservative_in_Columbus
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:22amVery Well said!
Report Post »SFYMP
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:36amWell said,but we have more determination, They haven’t much experience at defense.
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 11:41amWhat ever happened to respecting you elders?
Vikingwolfe
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 11:57am… correct! Karl Rove‘s reaction as well as Biden’s interview “smack” of elitism facing dismissal!
Report Post »stephenb.net
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 1:52pmBingo! It isn’t about left and right anymore, it’s about who is going to actually represent the taxpayers in this country! Toss out the old guard and lets bring in fresh blood. Professional politicians are destroying this nation!
Report Post »Joseph
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:26amBiden’s absolutly right with the term “Sciece Fiction”, since they have been in control we have been living in the Twilight Zone for the past 20 months.
Report Post »takamine
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:23amDoes he really think we are as dumb as he is?
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:34amYou BETCHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »wingedwolf
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:59amI have observed that that is one mark of a stupid person. A) They think they’re smarter than you & B) They think that since they would swallow the garbage, so will you. Sincerely intelligent people know better than to underestimate their opponents. LOL
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 11:40amWow then there must be alot of stupid people on this website.
NoMarxist
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 2:29pmJust a few, Stupid
Report Post »The Spark
Posted on September 17, 2010 at 1:57pmNo Stupid Windmill, you see, unlike you who expect us to just accept what ever the heck you say with out anything that actually backs up your conclusion, we actually try to logically reason with you people, which I guess is above your capabilities to do the same.
Report Post »Anonimouse
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:21amD‘Souza’s article is filled with facts and figures. But Joe dismisses it as something out of a playbook unwilling to compete in ideas? Now that’s out of the playbook, Joe.
Report Post »angelcat
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:42amLiberals don’t live in a world of reality. What they say is true is true in their minds. I don’t allow themselves to be confused or swayed by facts, figures, reality, or common sense because they don’t mesh with what they want and need to believe. Biden is no exception to this.
Report Post »Outland9
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:52amSimply put:
Liberalism is the triumph of emotion over reason (as defined historically), Conservatism is an applied intellectual process; based on observation, deduction, and the study of provable historical fact.
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 11:32amWow “Liberal” sure matches D’Souza.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 8:51pmStupidwindmill
Report Post »Gore just sent a note up to mommy and they want you to come out of the basement because it is important. Gore wants to award you with a solar powered satalite smart phone so that you can leave the confindment of the suicide ward and blog even when you are picking mushrooms with your friend, Dangles. You will be able to smash all those terriblle capitalist while trippin in the forest.
danglingbagless
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:00pmBiden’s comment on “This is what the other side does when they can’t compete…” was soooo funny! isn’t that like the pot calling the kettle black? (no pun intended.)
I‘m surprised that the real danglingbags has’nt commented yet. But then again, … what could he say?
Report Post »CRoyce
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:12am“one of the most talented men to enter American politics in three generations”!? Is this dude for real? Even the people I know who voted for Obama think he sucks as a president.
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:20amMr. Bidden is certainly an expert on garbage! So we have to take his assessment serously.
Report Post »Thirteenth Paladin
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:31amScience Fiction? Biden lives in a Fairy Tale world and wouldn’t know the truth if it bit him … anywhere.
Report Post »banglindags
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:40amBiden is just trying to suck up to OB. Joe wants to be on the ticket again in 2012. He’d hate to lose his seat to Hillary.
Report Post »sweetbees
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:50amThey can’t handle the truth! Can’t wait to read the book!
Report Post »smshirk
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:15amObama may be the best politician in three generation particularly as it relates to lying, ignoring the wishes of constituents, and affecting legislative action to his benefit his agenda, even while delegitimizing the constitution, to use Biden’s terminology.
Report Post »Stupid Windmill
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 11:26amBut Biden is still right all the same.
Report Post »firethecommunityorganizer
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 11:35amPlugs Biden needs another facelift – he’s looking bad.
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 11:56am“I mean, this is kind of — what’s happened on the Republican side. … When you can’t compete in ideas, what you do is the same playbook out of the conservative playbook. You try to delegitimize the other guy. That’s what’s going on … the attempt to delegitimize one of the most talented men to enter American politics in three generations”
Okay…remember GHWB…Dan Quayle anyone…Biden is so chalk full of “bushisms” that he makes Quayle look like Einstein. “what you do is the same playbook out of the conservative playbook” WHAT the heck does that mean?? Isn’t he talking about Gingrich, a supposed conservative who wrote the playbook back in 1994 – Contract with America? A playbook out of a playbook – DUH!! And can an English teacher out there tell me the definition of “delegitimize”. I have heard of illegitimate, illegal even, but what the heck is “delegitimize”?
Report Post »Boldnfresh
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 12:10pmObama will go down in History as one of the Greatest American Presidents.
eddvoss
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 12:22pmBut is that what Joe said or did he plagiarize that too?
Report Post »79USMC83
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 12:49pmIt does not take a book to see what the “Speech Giver” is doing. Reality is how all of these POLICIES,Czar’s and attacks on anyone that objects is enough to prove to WE THE PEOPLE that the man is a TYRRANT!!!! Oh and as far as Biden then he woke up!!!
Report Post »Marks1956f100
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 2:11pmMadcow gives Biden a softball and he not only does not answer the question he just starts to make up stuff like he knows what she really meant to ask…..
Report Post »chirodoc007
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 2:29pmThe “Three Generations” comment can only mean that he is again pushing the comparison of Barack to FDR. These guys all love these socialist policies and they seem genuinely baffled that the American People are not embracing them. It’s the only way to explain the constant promotion of their agenda.
Report Post »Alvin691
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 3:26pmThis looks like a big f’ing deal!
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 5:53pmThe only science fiction here is obamas school records, books, college writings, and possibly his birth certificate??? I know he has put that certificate of live birth on the web but that is not the birth certificate. Don’t want to open that can of worms but why so much to hide?
Report Post »postscript
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 6:56pm“Obama will go down in History as one of the Greatest American Presidents”
I believe you’re right BOLDNFRESH…
He will be remembered as the first president to wake America up from a century of sleep…
lindatipler@gmail.com
Posted on September 16, 2010 at 8:05pmBiden is a puppet
Report Post »aries1911king
Posted on September 17, 2010 at 12:48amCROYCE AND TOBYWILL2
I’m just wondering how many times both of you voted for Bush…Yeah, great choice fellaz…The republican Party obviously knows how to pick em…Lets think about it the last 2 Republicans Presidents Dumb and Dumber Bush and the Last 2 Democratic Presents Clinton who lowered taxes and built a surplus for this country and President Obama who has already exacted more positive change in this country in 18 months than any president in the history of this Country…Check and Mate
NotWaiting4Godot
Posted on September 17, 2010 at 5:09amThere is no way anyone can know if the claims are reasonable without carefully reading ‘Dreams From My Father.’ Obama tells the reader, over hundreds of pages, exactly who he is. I suggest the audiobook because he reads the book himself, applying vocal nuance to amplify passion/dispassion.
I suggest Steve Sailer‘s book ’America’s Half-Blood Prince.‘ Sailer deconstructs ’Dreams From My Father.’ The book was published months before Obama was elected.
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