Biden on GOP Holiday Complaints: ‘Don’t Tell Me About Christmas’
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Joe Biden has a message for GOP senators complaining about Democrats using Christmas as a bargaining tool: “Don’t tell me about Christmas.”
In an NBC interview airing Thursday Morning, Biden lashed out at Republicans angry that Harry Reid has threatened to keep the Senate in session through January 4 if the START treaty is not ratified.
“Don’t tell me about Christmas,” Biden said. “I understand Christmas. I have been a senator for a long time.” He went on to say there are 10 more shopping days until Christmas, and that he hopes the session doesn’t “get in the way of your Christmas shopping, but this is the nation’s business.”
The tongue lashing was in response to comments from the GOP and Sen. Jon Kyle (R-AZ) who said keeping senators through Christmas would be “sacrilegious.”
(H/T: Politico)
UPDATE:
A longer version of Biden’s comments, where he tells Republicans to “get out of the way”:
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SlimnRanger
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:53ami keep hearing wait till 2012 on here ,i honestly fear that by the time 2012 arrives it will be to late and as bad as this sounds i fear that Obama may be our last President, but God i pray i am wrong,I am not sure God is willing to allow this world to continue any further in the condition it is in
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:51amdidn’t they do this last year??? when they gave Americans a scr***** for Christmas??? BLOCK everything.. pass NOTHING if you MUST pass anything let it the bill for taxes and to keep the government running until February..
Report Post »conundrum
Posted on December 17, 2010 at 6:57pmYou mean like the 9/11 First Responder bill the Republicans filibustered? The Republicans got the tax cut they wanted for the wealthy, screwed 9/11 first responders over, and now they don‘t want to work between Christmas and New Year’s like most Americans have to. Now they’re playing the religion card. Amazing.
Report Post »Bigbird1960
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:44amShouldn’t Biden be working at a hardware store mixing paint?
Report Post »TEIN
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:35amOh Joe, don’t confuse “…but this is the nation’s business” with Libby/Progressive agenda….you and your lacky’s are just a chaos machine…
Report Post »jrcess
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:32amHas Biden made one remark that makes sense? Tell me one comment that was not an out right lie. This guy is a disgrace to the office and Delaware should be ashamed to have ever elected this piece of crap.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:27amThey have had to two years with a super-majority to “act, act” on the expiring tax cuts. They chose to wait and make it a political issue instead.
Report Post »Hugie 59 PA
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:26amMerry Christmas VP Biden! Using the lame duck session to accomplish your progressive agenda against the will of the greater majority of the American citizenry is an abomination. We will remember that you put your party above the nation. You have lost the respect of the country. Congress’s approval is at 13%. Can you blame them since the so called leaders are no longer statesmen and women. The ends justify the means even if it means the destruction of the country. It does not make sense so we must conclude you have a hidden agenda – fundamental transformation after collapsing the economy and rebuilding a socialistic government ontroled society. You will fail!
Report Post »Bearfoot1
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:26amThe Christmas gift is for osama, biden and reid, ramming another piece junk down Americas throat.
Report Post »kenwhawk
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:23amGo Home! We can’t afford all the spending as they try and bankrupt the country before the end the lame duck session!
Report Post »taxedenuf
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:23amGood old Joe, the court jester of the Senate! Whenever one needs comedic relief from the stresses of continual Alinsky Crisis, trot out Joe to make an ass of himself.
Report Post »truthncharity
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:23amHe probably meant to say corruption…not Christmas. That would fit better and make more sense.
“Don’t tell me about Corruption, I know about Corruption, I’ve been a Senator for a long time.”
Yeah, that makes better sense.
Report Post »chickenlittle
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:26amPerfect paraphrasing.
Report Post »IAMABLAZE
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:19amHe is a Self-Righteous Politician.
Report Post »isthatguykiddingorwhat
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 3:29pmWow am I surprised! I came to a Glenn Beck whacksite… I mean website and found posters calling each other names and Nazi this and Hitler that. I thought it would be reasonable discourse between liberals and conservatives trying to solve problems instead of stating their propaganda and stating the obvious about politics and politicians. I read every post and there may have been half of a comment that was really about something instead of slamming Biden, Obama, Beck, a liberal poster, a conservative poster or something regarding a great conspiracy against the right. This kind of crap is why our country is sucking the gas pipe. Liberals (my group) and conservatives are all to blame. The echo chamber of the internet has given rise to the whiney white dip sticks on both sides of the aisle. It’s more important to trash talk than to reason. Screw all of ya. Later lame clowns.
Report Post »Mikee T
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 4:23pmWhiney white dipsticks ? Awww…….we’re sorry….we forgot only black people have the right to feel disenfranchised……Two words for ya……Affirmative Action…… which equals social engineering and “Get Whitey”…..you opened the ball here pal…….now man up and admit that current day whites (primarily lower to middle class whites) and been paying a price for something they had nothing to do with for all their working lives……..whiney white dipsticks….give me a break….go hand with Charley Rangel and the other thieving minority leaders and their liberal white sympathizers…. You know what ? I’ve just been reduced to a retaliatory diatribe because of another obviously racist comment by another minority………when will it all end ? I am tired of defending white people……
Report Post »Chillamundo
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:19amIf they really do try to cram this dream down our throats 2012 wont get here soon enough.
Report Post »Bigbird1960
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:17amThis has to be a episode from “The Twighlight Zone” Our country cant have these idiots in the big seats?
Report Post »Chillamundo
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:17amAre they really going to try to squeeze this crap through before the newly elected take over.Dont they get it? It will be time to clean house again in 2012
Report Post »bookofwisdom
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:28amYeah, they got it. That’s why they are doing everything they can before the newly elected take over. We The People can only stand by and watch these fools royally screw up everything we have asked them not to. They just don’t care about what We The People want, it’s Spend, Spend, Spend, while they still can. May God Bless.
Report Post »BlueStrat
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 1:38pmYou have to understand that Progressives, when going down in defeat, always fall back to the “Capt. Ahab“ from ”Moby Dick”/“Khan” from “Star Trek-The Wrath Of Khan” mindset;
“From Hell’s heart I stab at thee. For Hate’s sake, I spit my last breath at thee”
In this context, substitute “a Free People” for “thee”.
It’s the “dog in the manger” parable. If they can’t rule it, they’ll destroy it…even if they go down with it…just to prevent any other ideology from triumphing. The same behaviors happened with Hitler & Germany during the last days of WW2.
Hitler kept Germany fighting to the very end, even after it was obvious that Germany had lost and further fighting would only damage Germany and kill more Germans needlessly. Hitler even killed Eva Braun and their children, then himself at the very last.
Sadly, I expect the same attitude and behavior from Progressives. It wouldn’t surprise me if Obama starts a nuclear war as a “final solution” if it looks likely that the Progressive “fundamental change” and their century-old hold on power in the US and dreams of revolution & global hegemony are dashed.
Tyrants and those plotting tyranny never accept defeat gracefully.
Report Post »Oldphoto678
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:16amWhat a joke. Millions of common people will be forced to work on Dec. 25th, but I guess the high and mighty CONs in DC are better than the rest of us little people.
Merry Dec. 25th
Report Post »Shane the Golden
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:57pmI will be working on Christmas Day but don‘t begrudge those that don’t. If someone can get the day off to be with family, I hope they can.
Report Post »Shane the Golden
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:58pmMerry Christmas, indeed.
Report Post »APatriotFirst
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 6:05pmThe house works 108 days year and senate is 128 days
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:14amAct by voting No!
Report Post »Watcher1952
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:10amJust two words for joe…….Dill weed
Report Post »GeauxAlready
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:10amLooks like the surgery was a success. His head is out of his butt! Now someone shove it back up there he can still talk.
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:10amPray for the protection of Barack O’Barry. Imagine the country being run by Joe Biden.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:31amOr worse, Nancy Pelosi. The sooner she’s no longer third in the Presidential line of succession, the better we will all be.
Report Post »rja444
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 3:57pmEither way we lose. Its a lose/lose situation
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:04am**“Don’t tell me about Christmas,” Biden said. “I understand Christmas. I have been a senator for a long time.” **
I know this is like shooting fish in a barrel, but Biden, please, explain to me what understanding Christmas has to do with being a Senator from an evidence presentation standpoint?
It’s akin to saying:
“Hey, don’t tell me about coffee. I own sheep!”
Wait…what?
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:25amApparently being a senator also makes you believe the only reason to want to be home at Christmas is so you can shop. These Godless liberals have no concept of Christmas.
Report Post »The only reason the dems want to work through Christmas is so they can ram as much crap through as they can while they still have their super majority, one party rule. They are not fooling anyone.
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:34am@Kate
Oh, clearly. They see this, probably justifiably, as their final shot to destroy us through their agenda, and their last huzzah. It’s not even in question, these monsters are gunning at us even as we kick them out of the airplane.
In a way, I wish that the pro-liberty forces had this amount of “I don’t care what you think” fight in them. Nevertheless, these clowns are dangerous.
Report Post »poozak
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:56am“Don’t tell me about coffee! I own sheep.” That is perfect. BiteMe has these wonderful audio loops streaming out of his yap so nicely. It would be fun to watch if he was just a cable TV show and not this nation’s vice president. God help us all.
Report Post »Lantern
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:11pmWe know what the Democrats are going to do, it’s the shameless Republicans who are votng for this crap that bothers me. RINO, closet liberal, Voinobitch ought to be bull-whipped. I am glad he is finally leaving the Senate, but not this way.
Report Post »Disabledvet
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:04amI think they should work through the Christmas holiday, since we have a seperation of Church and state, and Christmas is about Christ. I don’t think they should get easter off either.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:30amSatan never sleeps
Report Post »joshua
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:04amall of a sudden, ACT ACT ACT…….would be Nice if this would have been his message to Congress over a simple Budget!!
Report Post »Colonial Revolutionary
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:02amSend them all home NOW. Please don’t let them vote on anything until the new Congress is seated.
Report Post »Colonial Revolutionary
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:03amThat would be a great Christmas present to the American people.
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:10amThat would be the greatest Christmas gift since the actual birth of Christ. Please send them ALL home.
Report Post »chickenlittle
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:18amIt would, indeed, be a great Christmas present to America, but it would not be “home” that I wish we could send them.
Report Post »Rogue
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:35amAgreed – the GOP needs to offer the Dims an early Christmas present… a blanket filibuster. Delay every bill until the new congress is seated. Ooops… did I just mention Christmas? I meant “Holiday” gift. Only the VP is allowed to invoke the word Christmas publicly these days, apparently.
/end sarcasm
Seriously though, there should never be any bills passed during a lame duck – the Congress should be shut down until the new congress is in place. any essential work should be addressed before the elections. Take away the summer recess and other various breaks if they can’t manage to find time in the first 10 months of the year to get essential work done. Either that, or seat the newly elected congress on Dec 1st. Congress needs to spend the finall month of the year naming post offices and libraries, with no access to Taxpayer money.
Report Post »felina g
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:43amFat chance.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:48amI 3rd that
Report Post »chickenlittle
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:48amExcellent point Rogue… To carry it further, Immediately following any election certification, the newly elected should be able to assume their duties… NO lame ducks at all… that’s why they were voted out!
Report Post »Highland
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:58amThe Senators should tell both Reid and Biden, “Bite me. And Merry Christmas.”
Report Post »StonyBurk
Posted on December 17, 2010 at 8:52amI know of at least 250 member of the House that should be sent home permanently for pushing through that harmful Hatefilled legal Sodomization of our Military and of the nation they defend.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 9:59amBiden is a nothing, a nobody and a national joke. he wants to destroy America because he is too stupid to do anything else. he’s just a nazi lackey. welcome to 2010, 1930s Germany.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:20amit’s Christmas for the rich.
Report Post »anyone who made 1 million a year just got to keep an extra 100,00.00 of it.
More than I have ever made in one year.
They should cut spending but they already spent it and now somebody has to
pay. Guess who ? Cut’s in SSI and VAT are on the way for the little guy to suck it up
for Goldman Sachs and AIG executives. Now they get a break on those big bonuses
LOL hahaha I am about to drop out of this slave system, just raise my taxes another 5%
and I’m out….
guyperram
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:23amByte me is a “useful idiot”. Not to us, of couse, but to his puppet master. We really are being ruled by a foreign occupying force.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:32amPeople should be allowed to keep the money they earn, Towers. And those “benefits” you speak of, are all socialist entitlement programs. Nobody is entitled to the labor of others through theft, which taxation surely is.
Class warfare is a horrible mindset to adopt. I encourage you to consider not being envious of the wealth your neighbor may accumulate, and instead be thankful for living in a world where the only difference between people is how much they can earn, as opposed to living in a strong state socialist hierarchy or state cast system as most of the rest of the world does.
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:42amMy pet will do stupid tricks too when I tell him too. Biden is nothing more than an ignorant lap dog for the Communist left in this country and a shameful embarassment to this country and it’s people. It amazes me that a brain that small can support and power a mouth that big.
Report Post »CaptGregg
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:46amBiden is a bad joke, a disgrace to Delaware and to the rest of the nation. I look forward to his retirement in January of 2013.
“How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don’t think.” ~~ Adolph Hitler
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:46amtower7femacamp.. Your out of WHAT??? Why are you worried about what someone else makes?? Ask yourself do you have what you need? NOT what you want what you NEED.. heck most people think they want what some else has sometimes they get to find out it’s not at all what it seemed to be.. old saying “The grass ALWAYS looks greener on the other side”, but is it?
Report Post »yazzledazzle
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:51amI agree, he is nothing but a joke… along with his president.
Report Post »Kisha
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:22amlol essential everybody wants it??? SHUT UP YOU MORON!
Report Post »GayDem4Beck
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:28amWait a freaking minute !!! A school teacher can sue and win because the school board couldn’t let the teacher take leave for the Muslim pilgrimage/holiday this particular year. But Congress can’t take off for Christmas ? I think congress members should sue the federal government because the leadership wouldn’t allow them to celebrate their religious holiday too. What’s good for the goose.
Come on liberals, do you support religion or not ? STOP selecting which religions you will support.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:30amjefferson i paid for my ssi and the rich don’t pay into that.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:37amOf course Biden and Reid don’t want anyone to tell them about Christmas! These Traitors are AntiChrist!
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:48amburnt, the taxes suck but the federal reserve wants their money back with interest.
Report Post »Trillions of dollars, and somebody will pay, unless you make over 1 million a year
you are going to pay them and your children will pay them. That is the way it works
do you reall think congressmen who are worth million will tax themselves ?
The taxes on the rich have been going down since JFK was in office.
But SSI and income tax on working people has gone up since JFK
look at Gas taxes and Cigarettes on and on all are taxes to the little guy.
Glen and Rush also have a lot to lose. Just look at the pork in this last bill
much of it by republicans
http://www.dailykostv.com/w/000960/
So how much is Sen Kyl worth ? I bet he made out like a bandit on the
Bush tax cut. But we will see new Food,Gas,Garden taxes you name it
and Nobody will notice, because it’s a little here a little there.
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/shadow/tragedyandhope.htm
Ok Burnt if you are still reading here is the statement were the private banks make 6%
on money created by the Federal reserve. How many Trillions have the made ?
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/section7.htm
tower7femacamp
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:56amsorry Burnt I meant Independent not you
Report Post »but since I‘m here I might as well post 1 more on the Rothschild’s owning our Federal Reserve
Banking system
http://www.usagold.com/federalreserve.html
I know gold line is better hahaha
guyperram
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:57amTower7femacamp- This does not change anything. The taxes remain the same as they have for the last 8 years. So how, exactly, does this hurt anything.
Report Post »We all know that the spending needs to be cut. Departments need to be discarded and they need to get out of our life. With such an interesting “name” it sure looks like you may be on the wrong side of the issue.
Also, QE 2 and 3 have already begun giving you a big tax increase. Just wait, you haven’t seen anything yet!
snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:01pm@CaptGregg
Unfortunately for the wannabees in DC, and as Hitler found out, we of America are more than capable of thinking for ourselves. And America is more than fed up, we are steaming mad.
Hopefully Biden will disappear into the sunset, if he can be shown the way to go.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:22pmWhich nations business?………Russia’s
Report Post »Rowgue
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:43pmWow just when I thought FEMABOY couldn’t get any more ridiculous or moronic he outdoes himself. You are astonishingly stupid.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:44pm@ guyperram
100% correct. QE1, 2, 3…..etc. are euphemisms for hyper-inflation. The Fed is “printing inflation”. This is what Peter Schiff has been saying for quite a while.
I’m still hopeful that by the grace of God that the Senate votes this Tax extension / pork bill down, or at least it gets delayed until the tea Party electorate gets into office. Otherwise this will be a campaign distraction for the 2012 election. Obama will use the same tactics of “tax reduction for the rich” which might fool enough idiots into voting him in for a second term.
Republicans and conservatives in the House and Senate need to wise the “F” up and look farther than a few months down the road. This country needs a serious fiscal policy enema.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:45pmTower
Report Post »Do you know that most all public employees and politicians supported by unions are exempt from SSI and have incredible pensions that will grow at 8% a year? OH and you are on the hook for the guarnteed benifit:) Not even Buffet will guarantee 8% a year. The rich pay SSI on payroll income. They do not pay SSI on Income from investment because that income will be confiscated with the death tax. Plus an investment will never need to use a government benifit so it does not need a forced retirement plan. You should be glad the rich pay in and typically use less then they paid. This is opposite for the poor. They do not pay much and use the most. So who are you bummed out about?
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 12:46pm@Tower
**jefferson i paid for my ssi and the rich don’t pay into that.**
Serious comment. Please calculate how much you paid over the years, the SSN administration actually issues that information if you request it. Now add up how much you’ve collected, and stand to collect if you live another, say, 10 or more years.
SSI is a ponzi scheme. You pay in, yes, not by choice, and then because of how it was designed, you receive back far more than you paid in by exponential amounts.
This of course is not really the issue. The issue is the class warfare mindset you evinced in the original post I was responding to. You rail against “Christmas for the rich”, which is codified “covet thy neighbor’s property” thought put into political speech.
Report Post »AnnMarie
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 2:40pmIt doesn’t matter if they stay for the holidays…. Everyone else will celebrate in January when the new people get in.. Just have to do what they have to in order for this not to pass.
Report Post »chfields62
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 4:25pmtower7femacamp..what country do you live in??? The people who make over a Million dollars, or those who only make $20,000 are not getting anything BACK, this is not a TAX CUT. If they pass it, which I hope they don’t, so we can get a better deal, will keep TAX RATES THE SAME FOR EVERYONE!!!!!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 9:39pmBiden .. you have been in Washington WAY TOO LONG! Most people celebrate the birth of Christ with family and friends .. Dems only see it as a time to SCREW over the American people. GO HOME AND LET PEOPLE BE WITH THEIR FAMILIES .. If you think We The PEOPLE aren’t watching you are sadly mistaken .. but we too would like to NOT have to FIGHT YOU at Christmas .. but don‘t think we WON’T!
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 9:57pmI find it hilarious that liberals give Biden a pass. Most of them don‘t know that he’s the one that wrote the PatriotAct that Bush put into effect.
PatriotShops.com
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 10:03pmGhostOfJefferson,
Thank you. I was considering a not-so-polite response to tower7. This class warfare crap has got to stop. The rich pay more than their share in this country while almost 1/3rd of Americans don’t pay ANY!
As long as someone makes their millions legally and morally, I congratulate them. I am doing my damndest to achieve that sort of success. Before someone gives me crap…. I already give away close to 15% of everything I make to charity. And that’s on top of what Uncle Sam gets from me!
PatriotShops.com
Report Post »ozz
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:28pmQuestion is …. who is the bigger azz? Biden or Reid?
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:46pmtower7femacamp,
What? We have rich friends, and less than 2 years ago the married couple both turned 65. They had to get a lawyer to help them, but they ended up giving their SSI dollars back to Uncle Sam forever. That’s right, they voluntarily gave up their retirement checks because they had made a bundle working very hard over the years and decided it would be better used for someone else. I actually tried to talk them out of it and go a different route, but it was something they both had promised (to each other) that they would do if they ever had more than the average person. Yes they are libs.
PatriotShops.com
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on December 16, 2010 at 11:52pmozz,
Hmmm, for once I’m stumped!
Report Post »StonyBurk
Posted on December 17, 2010 at 8:49amHey – Joe Bite Me– Don’t tell me about Christmas. Once we had a government led by Moral and Religious people.Not for about as long as you have been a member of congress can I say we have had
Report Post »Moral– or Religious leadership in our government. Ronald Reagan –and perhaps Bush were speed bumps in the Democratic Party progress to make us all as Sodom or as the fields of Gomorrah. I cannot name a Democratic politician I could call my Christian brother or sister for they are a stiff necked and rebellious people That celebrate the destruction of this Christian nation. Joe Bite Me Christmas is all about the FACT that the Word became flesh and tabernacled among men.IT has been a very long lifetime since I knew of a Democrat who did not desecrate Christmas even as the Communistic ACLU desecrates my Countries US Constitution every chance these who guide your Party. so joe shut your pie hole-you are an embarrassment even to yourself.
Armed Patriot
Posted on December 17, 2010 at 4:49pmWhat an ASSBAG!!! The senate has had plenty of time and now holds Christmas HOSTAGE in an attempt to force through legislation they wouldnt/couldnt do before… not on a plane, not on a train… I will not eat green eggs and ham, I will not eat them Sam I am!!! Sorry that the elections and your commie reputations got in the way, Sam I am. Congressmaen. SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT UNTIL THE NEW CONGRESS IS SWORN IN!!! Liberty or death!!!
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on December 17, 2010 at 5:06pmJust a suggestion to tower and others upset that the dirty, stinking rich making over $200K single/$250K married, get to keep their own money… Everytime they discuss tax cuts for the “rich”, substitute “dirty capitalist pigs”. It all becomes clear when you do this.
Also… directly to tower. Say a single man owns a consulting business. He grosses $200,001. He has 4 employees that he pays $40,000 a year, which is an even 5 way split. He takes no more or no less than his employees. Under your tax the “dirty capitalist pigs” dream he would pay 39.6 % federal taxes while the others pay 15%. How many employees would he need to let go in order to earn his own living wage??? To put it another way…
Barstool Economics
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:
The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.
So, that’s what they decided to do.
The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve.
‘Since you are all such good customers, he said, ‘I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.’ Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.
The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men, the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his ‘fair share?’ They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.
And so:
The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings) .
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings) .
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).
Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.
‘I only got a dollar out of the $20,’ declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,’ but he got $10!’
‘Yeah, that’s right,’ exclaimed the fifth man. ‘ I only saved a dollar, too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more than I!’
‘That’s true!!’ shouted the seventh man. ‘Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!’
‘Wait a minute,’ yelled the first four men in unison. ‘We didn’t get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!’
The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important, They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!
And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore.
In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
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