Big Brother Boss: It’s Time for Federal Gov to Employ People and Create Middle Class; Top Congressional Obama Ally Schakowsky Admits Jobs Dems Created Are Low Income, Says Americans Don’t Know What Collective Bargaining Is
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kickagrandma
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:12pm“Who Let the Dogs Out?”
Why are the leftists women ALL so incredibly vile, evil and ugly; no, make that U-G-L-Y???????
“The eyes are the windows to the soul.” Truer words were never spoken/penned. The women on the far left have dead eyes.
Report Post »Eyore
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:34pmThe Dead Eyes go along with the lack of Brain activity
Report Post »sb36695
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:11pmThis administration says the same thing over & over & over. It hasn’t worked & they still preach it! How mind-numbed do you have to be to buy it?
Report Post »Eyore
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:38pmProgressivism is a religion, LITERALLY A RELIGION
Report Post »You cannot reason with these people, they see only what they want
standwithIsraelstandwithGod
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:11pmTo many drugs in the 60′s-freaks. Most uneducated people in America are in “power”. It’s disgusting.
Report Post »Boojer56
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:10pmCollective bargaining is why the US is no longer an industrial economy we are a service economy which that can’t last more than 12 years. Ford will be closing the Flat Rock plant in Michigan. There will be alot of UAW workers who just collectively bargained themselves out of a job. And ford the pioneer of the automobile will no longer produce an automobile in the US. in fact when you buy american automobiles there is a good chance the car you buy is not made in the US. I have always bought american but now I’m looking at offshore brands.
Report Post »EL ZORRO
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:00pmThe unions collectively bargained all the INDUSTRIAL JOBS out of the country, but no worry, Obama has created more than 40 millions FOOD STAMP middle class government dependent, what a country.
Report Post »EL ZORRO
ontherocks
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:09pmTo the Blaze Editors…Please, use short titles that tease the reader, not tell the entire story. The extremely long titles look bad (to those not familiar with The Blaze) when we link to them on Facebook.
Otherwise, thanks.
Report Post »Mr. Oshawott
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:05pm@OntheRocks
And ruin all the fun and excitement of reading the entire headline? It’s extensive titles like these that make videos from Naked Emperor News stand out so well. Plus, it saves viewers from the tedious task of watching the video over and over while they’re developing their viewpoints; therefore, I think the titles are at their best in their current form than if they were shortened…at least for myself, anyway. :-)
Report Post »Alvin691
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:06pmSome of you don’t get it. Her husband was the one who wrote the original Health Care bill while on home confinement. The criminal caught for bank fraud. This is the one that wanted single payer.
Report Post »Eyore
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:36pmThey all want single payer so they can deny non-supporters care
Report Post »It is just part of the plan for a one party state, kill the other party
Obama said before he was elected we could learn a lot from China, That is one of the things he has learned
SouthrnBizOwner
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:03pmI had to watch that twice. I couldn’t believe she was actually saying something that stupid.
Report Post »NOTYERHUCKLEBERRY
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:01pmPlease to be excusing me dumb congresswoman lady, but if you would take government and kindly place where sun don’t shine, we, the people can take care of problem! Have nice day!
Report Post »SouthrnBizOwner
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:01pmAbsurd. This woman doesn’t even know the basics about economics. Her paycheck is OVERHEAD and has to be taken from citizens production of earnings in taxation. She (like most govt employees) doesn’t manufacture, service, or invent anything but hot air. I’m amazed at these politicians airing their lack of insight or common sense.
Report Post »Eyore
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:33pmIt is called Progressivism
Report Post »All you have to do is believe, It will never work, BUT JUST BELIEVE
Angeld
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:57pmBlah Blah Blah Blah Blah
Report Post »tbl10
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:56pmIf you want to see a picture of what every American city will look like if these fools get their way, just take a good look at Detroit. 50 years of bad Democratic policies will do that for ya.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:55pmTake a look at Michigan.
Report Post »Eyore
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:40pmSoon the whole country will look like Detroit
Report Post »It is after all what Hope and Change were all about
mr.goodvibe
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:26pmSteven Crowder has a great video called Detroit in Ruins. Check it out on his youtube channel. I was born and raised in the upper peninsula of Michigan. Whenerver I travel North to visit I always by pass Detroit via 23. Don,t even care to drive through that shat hole.
Report Post »loadingmyclips
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 8:37amThat’s what we get for electing a nig pres. look at detroit,gary,in etc. black neighborhoods labeled as ghettos, but they weren’t that way when they pushed the white folk out! Oh it’s really a warm and fuzzy feeling when you marching with the ngs, but look at the results. It‘s not racist it’s reality!
Report Post »the_ancient
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:56pmYes because the WPA was a Great Success…….
Report Post »InversionTheory
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:55pmI could’a sworn the stimulus was to go to those great infrastructure projects that were gonna create millions of new jobs.
It doesn’t really seem to have worked. Perhaps if we triple down on the spending, hike the minimum wages, unionize all employers, and double benefits…. I’m ***SURE*** everything will be fine.
Gimme a break.
Report Post »the_ancient
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:57pmThat was my biggest problem with the “Stimulus”, only a small part went to real projects, most of it was raw increase in departmental budgets and outlays
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:54pmmuch of the “stimulus” went to Obummer’s friends in the public sector and the Unions.
Report Post »Doodidle
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:54pmThats exactly what we need, more government jobs that the tax payers pay for…. give everyone a government job and the country goes to china. Is it really that hard for these people to realize the private sector is where they get their money for these programs?
Report Post »I_can't_believe_this_stuff
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:54pmUgly == Stupid == Liberal == Thieves
Nobama 2012 … hell Nobama in 2011 … why wait?
Report Post »lhvd6639
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:54pmIt’s because of goverment that there is no job
Report Post »angelcat
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:53pmMore and more often liberals are letting their disdain for the American people show through. It remains to be seen if enough American people are aware of this to vote Obama and other liberals out of office, or if so many have been made totally dependent on government that they don’t care how stupid these people think they are as long as they get the entitlements they have grown to rely on instead of their own hard work, saving, and intelligence.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:12pmAnd replace them with what?
Rabid xenophobic isolationistic ignoramuses?
The entire American spectrum of political office seekers is teeming with idiots. The Left has great cause to mistrust the right and vice versa.
What we might need is a Constitutional Convention that either (a) solves the problems or (b) breaks up the Union along idealogical lines.
Our great 235 year old experiment with self-governance is swiflty turning into a bankrupted ponzi scheme of social welfare, military industrialists and elected con-artists.
If the Founders could be brought back to life and returned to the modern day America they would ask to go back to England!
But it is worth fighting for….
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:52pmI think they would hang you from the nearest tree Butcher.
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:03pm…..Mr Butcher, you are a GIFT! The kind of thought process you display, the disregard for ….reality. is really indicative of the reality within the democrat party. Every day, I thank God for you(specifically) and those who think just like you. Groupthink is such a cancer, I am glad that you simply expose your infection. Thanks for just BEING YOU! I love you man!
Report Post »suttonea76
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:52pmTrick statement….Democrats haven’t created any jobs. They can‘t create jobs as they don’t produce anything. So I will see your collective bargaining and raise you common sense! Dumb arse!!!!
Report Post »RN MOM
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:35pmWell, they do produce one thing: socialists. Former workers dependent on the dole for their existence. Therefore, creating a lower class than perpetually voted them in and a working class that perpetually pays for the lazy masses and their masters.
Report Post »CrackerSmurf
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:51pmstepping in is why no one has jobs you fat sunken troll. Go do something productive with your life you pathetic never-was.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:57amwhy noone has jobs.. lets see…
Report Post »look at anything you own. where is it made…
made in the usa? because you can only get jobs if things are made here.. that is the sad truth.
Rob
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:51pmTuck the Fwat.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:51pmI love how the video is edited to show the inflammatory bits, without enough of the video to ACTUALLY get an idea what she is talking about.
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:09pmDid you miss the part about small business and government? What sort of idea are you looking for?
Report Post »Tankertony
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:11pmYou can go to your favorite marxist website to suck in all the vile, useless rubbish this idiot Ms. Jan can spew. We here aren‘t fooled and know you ’people’ like every square inch of our glorious naked bodies.
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:55pmOF COURSE……it is always the editing, isn’t it? Well you know there is always….. the CONTENT to look at you complete f-ing incompetent ******! I am sure everything the libs have EVER done wrong has been the result of clever editing, no doubt. Anthony Wiener is the face of your ilk. Suck on that for a moment!
Report Post »RN MOM
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:31pmIf only we could do the same thing to the rest of the government: Edit out the inflammatory bits. Let me bottom line this for you; I am not at all interested in being saved by my government. I am not at all interested in being unionized or my government being unionized. Unions suck. As an RN, I am seeing exactly what happens to an industry when the government gets their inept greedy hands on it. They regulate it into oblivion while sucking all the monetary value from it and divert that money to interests that suite them and their selfish needs. The regulators are first class greedy mongrels and the actual workforce of the industry is back seated for political gain. I would call them fools, but they are way too devious for that classification.
Report Post »Rob
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:51pmI no longer trust the American government… AT ALL! They are against freedom…. and we are just rolling over.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:59amlet the feds starve and die. STATES are everything.
Report Post »Upstate SC
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 3:20pmAgreed…the states are everything. Its time that the states considered seceding the union, because the union was formed to become a more perfect union. Its now a more corrupt union. The Federal government has done nothing but strap the states with more and more debt in order to hold them hostage. I do believe we are nearing the boiling point, we may not make it to the 2012 election. When good men do nothing evil will always prevail.
Report Post »Personalforrest
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:49pmUpdate on new cost of Government Cheese: Your Soul.
Report Post »EL ZORRO
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:51pmObama is the FOOD STAMP PRESIDENT, under his regimen more than 40 million(americans) people are living on food stamps, from where get the government the money to pay for that?, from the few americans that have the fortune to have a job, and that IMBECILE COMMUNIST is talking about the government to create jobs?. This is really disgusting, is a fact that Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama long form birth certificate is a FRAUD, what is waiting congress to IMPEACH THE USURPER.
Report Post »EL ZORRO
Borderlegion
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:44pmUnbelievable
Report Post »saneasylum
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:38pmThese idiots are coming out of the woodwork….what a great way to drag the Demoncrats down!!!
Report Post »Eyore
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:42pmNO, She really believes what she is saying along with Obama and all the other Democrats
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:44pm.
Stupid Americans Don’t Know What Collective Bargaining Is…..
Stupid Congresswhore, I mean woman, Bet you’ll know that pain is our Collective Foot in your Butt…………
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:14pmLets pray for her that she see the error of her ways
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:44pmTime to boot this freaking commie to the curb.
Report Post »Anonimouse
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:54pmShe didn’t mention what she was going to use to pay these people for all these new jobs, did she?
Report Post »What a bubblehead.
Conservativeman
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:55pmTo the Gulag with her. She has humiliated the party and the annointed one.
America, wake up, Obama is a liberal fascist. He hates Israel. He hates free speech. He hates Christians. He hates guns. He hates America.
One and done. Next we need to elect a congress that will do its job.
Report Post »right-wing-waco
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:56pmLets see now, the commies in DC regulated the free market to death. So the answer is more government jobs. The progressives plan is to create problems that only they can solve because they put roadblocks in the way of the free market.
2012 election is really important. Vote the libs out.
Report Post »Boojer56
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:57pmI’d be glad to provide the boot! So she wants to create amiddle class by creating low income jobs, Did I miss something? would not that be creating a lower class, not middle class? Is this the new math or something?
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:58pmGovernment can’t make jobs….only privet business can.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:07pmLibby: We need the government to create jobs!
Report Post »Me: What kind of jobs?
Libby: Good paying jobs!
Me: What kind of jobs?
Libby: The kind to put Americans to work!
Me: But what kind of jobs?
Libby: You stupid pathetic…(censored)…(censored)…(censored)! I don’t have to take this from you!
Me: Sheesh. All I wanted was details.
Florida_Freedom_Fighter
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:08pmGod, …is Obama and his czars and administration, all of it, all of them ! ! !, DISGRACE TO THE NATION !!!! !!!!! !!!!
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:14pmI would rather shoot myself than work for the Government. Unless you are a G.I. there is no need for a Government worker at all…Especially politicians!
Report Post »Professional Infidel
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:18pma shot rings out! noise stops, time for govt to step out.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:19pmBoojer56
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:57pm
I’d be glad to provide the boot! So she wants to create amiddle class by creating low income jobs, Did I miss something? would not that be creating a lower class, not middle class? Is this the new math or something?
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It’s not new math, it’s Liberal math.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:40pmThe Utopian dream is turning into a nightmare.
Report Post »capitalismrocks
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:41pmCan‘t wait until 2013 for the Texas board of Ed to release their History Books detailing how Commie’s infiltrated the White House and practically destroyed this country, but the American people rose up and ousted the Commie bastards and we will NEVER allow this to happen ever again!!!
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:49pmTime to take back this is country from the enemy
Report Post »Down2TheC
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:54pmDon’t get much dumber than that…
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:54pmI got your Big Brother B!tch!
Report Post »rayblue
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:56pmThat’s the real reason I retired from Government payroll in 2008.
Report Post »They had been working on criminalizing conservative values for a while but 2008 was the tipping point for me and others like me. I could have stayed and made a better living but I chose to be a part of the good people who would fight this kind of tyranny.
“There are 2 potential violations of man’s rights:
The criminals and the government. The great achievement of the U.S. was to draw a distinction between these two-by forbidding to the second the legalized version of the activities of the first”.
thermonator
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:00pmThe government is the problem not the solution. The government has no money except that which the take from the people in the private sector. More government and less private sector is the providence of fools.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:08pmCome on. This is BS (although yes, she misspoke, please!). This is an obvious attempt to appeal to ignorance, which is does not do our country any good.
As you can clearly hear her say, “62% of Americans oppose efforts by government to oppose government workers from collective bargaining.” Yes, she immediately after that ” the 62% who said that don’t have a clue what collective bargaining is.“ She meant ”38%”
The fact is that the very conservative Wall Street Journal conducted a poll and found that, “Americans strongly oppose efforts to strip unionized government workers of their rights to collectively bargain, even as they want public employees to contribute more money to their retirement and health-care benefits, the latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll shows.
Eliminating collective bargaining rights for public-sector workers over health care, pensions or other benefits would be either “mostly unacceptable” or “totally unacceptable,” 62% of those surveyed said. Only 33% support such limits.”
Those are the results of the WSJ poll. And this website presented the poll as the exact opposite, based on a a single, obvious misstatement.
Please, this kind of stuff isn’t good for America. Slant is one thing but this is something else. Don’t assume your readers are so stupid.
Report Post »Texas Grasshopper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:14pmwhat happened to the oath of office ? treason …recall , oh yeah ..holder would be in charge of that ….gulp
Report Post »EnoughBS
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:15pmThis story is terrifying! It’s hitting more closer to home.
I’m going back to school for accounting/studying for the CPA. I want to work for a small business- more than anything. Often, I’m recommended by my family to go work for the IRS right out of school: great pay, great benefits, no overtime and the list goes on.
It’s so frustrating, not because they support the organization- they just know that’s where future, secure jobs will soon be.
Report Post »candcantiques
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:18pmDid anyone happen to notice how much that eagle looks like the nazi eagle???????
Report Post »MiketheTrucker
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:22pmRight on!!!! Maybe we could even buy her a one way ticket to Cuba.
Report Post »MiketheTrucker
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:25pmNo Jan, YOU and your ilk need to get the hell out of the way and let the free market do what it does best.
The liberals, both demorat and republican, have taxed and regulated our jobs right out of the country.
And it’s NOT time for the government to step in, because you’ve “stepped in” enough!! Get out of our business.
Report Post »american1st
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:26pmBoojer56
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:57pm
So she wants to create amiddle class by creating low income jobs, Did I miss something? would not that be creating a lower class, not middle class? Is this the new math or something?
by taxing the rich and creating low paying jobs with the money, they create a middle class from the formerly well off….. but don’t worry in “magic ideal land” where socialism works, people will still work hard to create fortunes to be plundered by the government, even if they don’t benefit from it themselves……
Report Post »candcantiques
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:40pmThe main problem is that government has gotten so involved with everything that companies cannot afford to hire anyone. I run my own company and if I followed every law on the books not only would I not have any employees, further adding to the unemployment line, but I wouldnt have a company either. The government needs to get the hell out of the way and let business work. Next year with all of the new rules and laws a lot of companies I know are going to be closing their doors forever. People who help a lot of other people to make money. I am one of them and in turn I use the money they help me make to employ others. When the companies that help me, go under, then I go under and so does everyone I employ. Thats what govenment can do for us all !!!!
Report Post »NOKOOLAIDDRINKER
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:44pmObama the absolute worst President we have ever had!!! My God who are the stupid ***kers that voted for him. Oh? wait? that would be my bleeping older sister and her “progressive” friends who think the world should be “all ice cream and lollipops” and someonelse should pay for it. Doogooder irrantional dumba**es!!! I’m done for now. Thank you for letting me rant.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:49pmHere’s what the poll actually said (link below): “Americans strongly oppose efforts to strip unionized government workers of their rights to collectively bargain, even as they want public employees to contribute more money to their retirement and health-care benefits, the latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll shows.
Eliminating collective bargaining rights for public-sector workers over health care, pensions or other benefits would be either “mostly unacceptable” or “totally unacceptable,” 62% of those surveyed said. Only 33% support such limits.”
The poll shows the exact opposite of what is represented here. Most Americans see the value of collective bargaining. Most Americans see the value of employees, like you and me, having a say. If you want to read what the poll said read it here:
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/03/02/wsjnbc-poll-strong-support-for-bargaining-rights/
Of course if you don’t believe that you have any rights at all as an employee, and want to be a subject governed by any whim of the boss man, then that’s fine. If that’s freedom to you, that’s cool with me.
Report Post »getalong
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:54pmI saw on Fox News that Obama’s new brilliant idea for creating jobs is to help with an “industry-led” (ha-ha) effort to place people in manufacturing jobs by training them at local community colleges and, most likely, subsidizing their employment. Though I am not trying to demean in anyway assembly line jobs (I have worked on assembly lines), and those people work damn hard, and it takes a special kind of person to handle that kind of stress, but if all the jobs he plans to create are assembly line jobs, where does that leave the large majority of people who spent thousands of dollars on college degrees. This type of partnership is a win, win for the progressives (1) it places government controls on private business (believe me, this job creating effort will NOT be industry-led, (2) it helps the unions (3) it decides a person’s quality of life.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:58pmYou would think these elitist intellectuals would have had enough collective brain cells amongst themselves, to think their communist and socialist ideas/ideals through to their logical conclusion (or just read a freakin’ history book, for pete’s sake). If they DID, they would know their ideas are not just impractical, but impossible. Central planning is absolutely impossible to micromanage on the scale of a nation. Do they even know the definition of communism? Of socialism?
If they would have worked to earn a living they would be able to think logically, rather than sit around and hold their intellectual mutual masturbation sessions.
Keynesian economics has failed yet again. Obama and his intellectual elite crowd are just the latest example that history will record as failed socialists.
On the plus side, they are self-destructing before our eyes!
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:17pmThis new “revolution, America” thing is becoming less of an idiological issue and more of a survival issue. Survival for the Constitution as we used to know it, because as of now it is in flames and in danger of being engulfed. I have railed against these revolutionaries in this administration for a while now, more in a “wake up!!” mode than now.
Now, well we have been infiltrated from within, and our enemy has taken the most powerful seat in the world. Now, we are against those whom seek to enslave us and destroy the “divine providence” which was America. Now, we are dying. ALL of us, even those like ENCINOM who believe the cult leaders, with the tyrrants, they are merely too stupid to know they are welcoming the chains on their arms with a giddy smile. And will die with the the rest of us, but with a disbelieving question as their last expression instead of we Patriots, who die with a look of hate and regret that we could not do more.
I will do all in my absolute strength to defend this America that I love, that I have served, that I will die for.
I swear my Sacred Oath again.
To defend and protect the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic….
This domestic enemy is the most horrific imaginable. And the most capable. We must be more capable.
Do not allow ANY of your liberties to be usurped. GIVE NOT ONE INCH! Love your neighbor, keep your brother, and keep that powder dry.
Semper Fidelis, America. Our light is not exti
Report Post »CatB
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:22pmGet the F out of the way and the American People will “create” jobs .. private sector jobs … what a bunch of socialists .. how long to Nov. 2012?
TEA!
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:24pm@JZS
Does your employer have some strange mystical power that keeps you from seeking employment elsewhere if you don’t like the way he is “governing” you?
Or do you have the freedom to work where you choose? (Provided you have the qualifications for the job you are seeking).
Most employers that I know tend to do whatever they can to keep their quality employees.
The crappy employees? Not so much.
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:26pmShow me the money honey!! In case you haven’t heard, WE”RE BROKE, Bitch!!: oh raid rthe 401K’s like San Fran Nan suggested!! sorry; forgot about that!!
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:26pmBig Brother boss??? wtf
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:30pmjzs
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:49pm
Here’s what the poll actually said (link below): “Americans strongly oppose efforts to strip unionized government workers of their rights to collectively bargain, even as they want public employees to contribute more money to their retirement and health-care benefits, the latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll shows.
Eliminating collective bargaining rights for public-sector workers over health care, pensions or other benefits would be either “mostly unacceptable” or “totally unacceptable,” 62% of those surveyed said. Only 33% support such limits.”
Of course if you don’t believe that you have any rights at all as an employee, and want to be a subject governed by any whim of the boss man, then that’s fine. If that’s freedom to you, that’s cool with me.
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Let me tell you something you commie sob. I have NEVER relied on a union to back me, I put my hard work and knowledge to work to make my personal self valuable to my employers. In our CAPITALIST system, the employer knows that having more productive employees means more production, therefore more profit. When the unions get involved, they advocate that even the least productive of the force has the same rights of pay and benifit as the most productive, which minimizes profit and production.
Report Post »I learned this working under the steel workers union in right-to-work Georgia, where I NEVER joined their pathetic union.
idefine
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:43pmDon’t be suprised how ignorant these people can be, and arrogant to advocate for something they know nothing about. The average person on the street doesn’t really know the facts about anything, and if it sounds good they are for it. Same reason collective bargaining, is a right, and only bargaining, so fair
Report Post »rmburton
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:46pmShe, like many, genuinely has no idea that sustainable jobs must be created by the private sector. Relying on government jobs to feed itself tax revenue is akin to a perpetual motion machine; without constant energy (i.e. revenue), at some point it will simply come to a halt.
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:24amObama, You are on your OWN, 2012 cannot come soon enough !!
Report Post »You will go down as Americas worst President, ever !!
Will be known as the “GREAT DEVIDER”
I have made a lot of mistakes in my lifetime, My Vote for you was
the worst… won’t happen again !!
jzs
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:30amBilly, Sacred, you guys are off topic, although I’d be happy to argue the points you made.
My point was that this website, falsely, flagrantly misrepresented a poll that showed that by a large margin American support collective bargaining for government workers. Your posts acknowledge that this website assumed you were too f-ing stupid to understand to what the poll said – that Americans support collective bargaining – and gave you the idea the poll said the opposite of what you’d like to believe.
You want to disagree with that Big Brother?
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:54amMy poll says, Out with Obama and all his union thugs..
Report Post »Who are you trying to Bullshi** . Liberals say something
and expect the World to believe the crap they come out
with.. Obama doesn’t give a shi** about any of us, When
he leaves office, He and his Queen will be Billionaires..
Not bad for a Kenyan boy, Thanks American Chumps !!
Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:59am@JSZ
No sir, not off topic.
I don’t care what the poll said, or what the lemmings who were polled think.
I was responding to the last paragraph of your 2nd post.
You seem to think that workers deserve special “rights’ because the unions bargain for them.
You have the right to work wherever you can get a job that you seek, at whatever pay they are offering. You have the right not to take that position if you do not like what they are offering.
You have the right to do whatever is needed to keep that job, if it is a job that you want to keep. If you make yourself a valuable asset, you will be rewarded.
You have the right to look elsewhere for employment if you don’t like the way you are being treated, or compensated.
Boss man has the right to can your a$$ if you are lazy, unproductive, or disruptive to the well being of the company.
Unions SUCK. Especially public unions.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704320104575015010515688120.html
Report Post »408 CheyTac
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:05amThe only thing this federal gov’t can create is one giant debacle after another. This bird-faced harpie is hard on the nerves.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:15am“He who controls the past controls the future, and he who controls the present controls the past”.
The headline for this thread was changed to reflect new knowledge presented here by informed posters. Now, there’s a different slant. Big Brother indeed, changing the past. Awesome. If you lose your day job, you could probably get a job in North Korea.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:20am@JZS
The fact that so many of the polled are indoctrinated sheep can explain the results of many polls.
Our public education system at work.
Gee there’s those unions again.
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:22amThis is dangerous. The total and complete ignorance is breath taking. They will absolutely destroy the country if they are not stopped.
Report Post »american1st
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:38ampublic union rights according to the left,
- the people must pay high taxes
- the union has the right to force membership.
- the union has the right to force public workers wages (payed for with taxes) to be collected as dues
- the union has the right to donate those dues to elect politicians
- the union has the right to demand more pay (taxpayers money) from the politicians they elected
- the union has the right to demand full Cadillac benefits even if the politicians they elect bankrupt the state
-the union has the right to intimidate, threaten or lie to maintain the above mentioned rights
did i miss any ?
JZS i don’t care if the poll says most Americans support this public union crap (and i doubt the poll) IT IS STILL WRONG. thank god this is a constitutional republic and not a (mob rule) democracy. just because a majority of loony leftists are dumb enough to believe in public unions, doesn‘t mean they aren’t a horrible corruption of government..
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:55am@American1st
Well put.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 2:33amGovernment cannot create jobs because the government does not make a product.
The only thing Obama is good at is lying. No, strike that. He’s not a good liar. The only thing Obama is good at is….wait for it…..I promise to tell you….as soon as I can think of something….well, nothing that I can think of that’s positive or has had a beneficial effect on the country.
Wonder why he doesn’t resign?! He’s far worse than Weiner.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 2:35am@hauschild
Report Post »Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:40pm
The Utopian dream is turning into a nightmare.
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Wrong, friend. It was a nightmare from the get-go.
HumbleMan
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 5:17amThis is what communism looks like!
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 6:03amWhere pray tell do we get the money for the salaries if everyine works for the Gov’t?
Oh, I get it, we are all assigned jobs by the new Marxists / Socialist/ Communist Central Planning auhtority in order to receive all of our essentials now rather than cash to do with as we wish. So we effectvely become slaves to the State.
I think I’ll pass
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 6:03amThis COMMUNIST doesn’t have a clue what FREEDOM and LIBERTY are! What a bitch. I’d love to run into her in a dark alley.
Report Post »avenger
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 6:41amaha…another useful fool emerges…too bad mom did not practice abortion…
Report Post »chazman
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 7:34amThe only thing that will bring these Liberal Marxist’s back into the fold is a baseball bat across their skulls!
Report Post »chazman
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 7:55amThe federal government is truly the enemy of the American people …
Report Post »jnobfan
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 8:20amIts a classic case of they don’t understand the “what do you do when you run out of other people’s money”
Report Post »The world will not let us just print as much money with nothing to back it up.
I have voted independent the last 2 presidential elections because Bush was spending too much money and McCain is soo weak. I said that I would never vote for “the next Repub” like a Romney or McCain but these Obabma people have got to go before there is nothing left. Please get involved in your states primary and get to a Tea Party this summer.
JasonMax12
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 8:27am@JZS-
the irony is that you actually missed the point of the video. the video is exactly as it looks: that the congresswoman clearly supports public sector unions. and that the poll results show that 62Z% of people support public sector unions. at least the way the poll is worded.
But therein lies the problem. the “Blaze” is not assuming its readers are ignorant. the Blaze is exposing a congresswoman who clearly does not support capitalism, the individual, or American values. the congresswoman is calling for “GOvernment first!” solutions rather than private sector solutions, and she is usuing the poll to back her views. the reason the “Blaze” posted this is to show HER ignorance and HER disdain for American principles and values.
Polls can be made to show anything. its all the way questions are worded. look at the global warming debate. if you ask people “do you love the earth”, nearly 100% of people will say “yes”. if you ask “are humans responsible for climate change”, that will be considerably lower.
It sounds good to say “government can’t strip workers rights”, of course most people will support that. but if you truly explain to people what is being asked of the governmnet workers, that they are being asked to contribute, and not to be “stripped” of rights, and that public sector unions are working with OTHER peoples money (taxpayers money, not company, or private money), then i bet the numbers would flip flop, and 62% would oppose
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:25amThe average Government employee salary is 57,000 the average privately employed citizens salary is 42,000. How the he77 does this idiot figure the government isn’t paying enough. The fact is the government is paying too much and sending tax dollars around the world on top of that.
Report Post »Lucci
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:52amAnd somebody takes this nutcase seriously?
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:56amyou mean The Wall Street Journal and NBC polled their viewers? There is no way for them to poll me.. or anyone else who doesn’t watch them or visit their sites…
It sounds like the government is talking about “forcing people to do things”.. i think that is called slavery… you can sugar coat that anyway you’d like… you don’t lead by force.. you lead by example.
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:12amOK, so this Communist Bimbo wants Government to create jobs…she says that our infrastructure is crumbling, including our sewer systems.
I really think that she needs to get laid off so that she can ‘man up’ and show us what needs to be done. I want to see how long she will sit on that couch, with her unemployment check, if the only GOVT job available to her is to fix the SEWAGE PIPES in her own neighborhood. I bet she would not take the job, even if her own toilet backed up for a year and Hell froze over.
Shut up Commie ~ you are just talking, to hear yourself talk. You are filled with ‘Obozoisms’, but empty on character.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:28amJasonMax12, I don’t think you are clear on the concept of what a labor union is and does. A public service labor union isn’t a “government first” entity or a government entity at all. Public service unions speak people who work for the government. They negotiate with “the government.”
I believe you’re taking an inconsistant position. I suppose that normally you’d be opposed to more government control over an individual. But in the case of public service unions, you want “the government” to have complete control over the individual: to pay them minimum wage, have unsafe working conditions, no benefits or whatever else.
Report Post »Rightsofman
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:37amCould we possibly fit any more Commies into this administration??
Report Post »its_time_to_arrest_our_government
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:04pmits about time we put their commie asses behind bars. what they are doing to this country is criminal and if we the people dont put a stop to it soon we wont have a country left to save. its time to wake the hell up and put these losers where they all belong. they need to ask themselves do they want to go to prison in a rich country or a poor one? it wont matter much to me because none of them deserve anything from us but a long jail term.
Report Post »its_time_to_arrest_our_government
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:10pmwake up people these people belong in jail. this is an attempted coup on our freedoms and way of life. these people are not americans. they do not believe in our freedoms or our way of governing ourselves. we must not allow these CRIMINALS to run lose in our nation. subversion is a very big crime in this nation. as it would be in any nation. why are we allowing it? WE THE PEOPLE RUN THIS COUNTRY not this batch of crooks who stole one election. its time to hold them all accountable!
Report Post »kraphtsman
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:17pmVapid, insipid, idiotic, nonsensical, liberal drivel… this is the ONLY thing this bloviating, overpaid governement nitwit (and her progressive ilk) knows how to produce. The only thing more stupid than her premise that GOVERNMENT can actually create jobs, is the notion that printing more dollars and increasing taxes is how government can create wealth. What a bunch of morons we have in Washington… makes me wish ALL of these stupid people would’ve been on the top floor of the WTC on 9/11, instead of the poor souls who perished !!!
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:12pmjzs WROTE:
“JasonMax12, I don’t think you are clear on the concept of what a labor union is and does. A public service labor union isn’t a “government first” entity or a government entity at all. Public service unions speak people who work for the government. They negotiate with “the government.”
I believe you’re taking an inconsistant position. I suppose that normally you’d be opposed to more government control over an individual. But in the case of public service unions, you want “the government” to have complete control over the individual: to pay them minimum wage, have unsafe working conditions, no benefits or whatever els”
@JZS
WOW. That’s quite a stretch, even for you. You can’t possibly be serious.
As I read you trying to justify that nonsense, one picture comes to mind.
Baghdad Bob, claiming there are no US tanks in the city, as the camera shows them rolling by.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 2:49pmsee. there really is no cure for stupid.
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 3:00pmIn other words she wants communist Russia, China, and the like now instead of later. Get your commie butt out of AMERICA IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT.
Report Post »Upstate SC
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 3:04pmWOW…The government is so great at creating jobs, why are their nearly 18 million unemployed after three years of Obama’s shovel ready jobs? The government is very good at waste, check this…. http://www.dirtyspendingsecrets.com/?utm_source=DirtySpending&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=AD1&utm_campaign=2011_Brand
Report Post »jzs
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 3:13pmTherightsofbilly, actually yes, my employeer does have a strange, mystical power over me. They pay me a lot.
Report Post »HairOfTheDogSob
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 3:20pmWhat obozo created is a mess that can not be recovered from…folks with the biggest federal government ever, the biggest deficit ever, the biggest lie ever perpetrated over and over again….obama is a …, non prosrcuted imposter”..not a POTUS..government jobs that do not govern is not a job …its called a felony…stupid democrat…you were bought as a slave…own it!
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 3:45pmjzs WROTE:
Therightsofbilly, actually yes, my employeer does have a strange, mystical power over me. They pay me a lot.
OK, he pays you a lot, and you still work for him, so you are obviously not unhappy with the manner in which he “Governs” you.
You must be a member a union member.
Oh wait, correct me if I’m wrong, but I seem to remember you stating that you have a non-union management position.
It does not compute.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 3:48pmEdit:
You must be union member.
Report Post »Charlemange
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 3:55pmI know who’s got my vote for the cutest couple since Bonnie and Clyde. It’s the larcenous lovebirds from Chicago: Jan Schakowsky, the most far-left member of Congress, and her bank robber husband, Robert Creamer, who wrote Obamacare in jail.
Report Post »Wayne
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 5:34pmShe needs to go back where she came from, under a rock. we let these people get in government and then they talk down to every one, as if they are so smart. Send her back home.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 6:00pm@WAYNE
I just checked, and the rock she crawled out from under does not want her back.
Report Post »dnnyshdy
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 6:29pmThe only way way to create more jobs is to not allow as much imported items into the country or put higher taxes on imported items.Then maybe more factories will start producing more products here in America.We also have to get rid of unions so American factories can compete.People need to get paid to work but you can’t pay someone $50 an hour to tighten lug nuts.You just can’t compete like that.
Report Post »MCGIRV
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 8:56pmAmen!
Report Post »Teaparty-grammy
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:04pm@jzs first of all, in her speech ole “Libby” was strongly implying that most of us out here are too stupid to “get” collective bargaining. Second, what we are OPPOSED to is not their bargaining, but their assumption that the taxpayers should provide better pension and medical benefits for the hordes of govt. workers than they can afford for themselves. That seems a little backward, don’t you think? Asking govt. workers to pay at least a portion of the cost of those plans themselves–the same as we out here in the “real” world have to pay for ours–is not asking all that much, seems to me–especially since they likely have a better benefits package than 90% of the rest of the country’s workers.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:42pmBilly, I’m salaried and work for a company that treats its employees so well unionizing ideas are unthinkable. Employees work in a safe environment, make a competitive wage, have good insurance (although employees pay more of that every year), and share in the company profits both for safety and for record sales months.
I’m very fortunate. I make above the median income for the US, and can safely say I’m more on the giving end of taxes than the receiving end for the school system, road upkeep, libraries, parks, the fire and police department and so on. I’m paying more in taxes than the “average American” for the benefits I receive from living in this country.
And you know what? I happy with that. I’m fortunate. And I’m happy to contribute my tax dollars to help “the poorest among us” in Christ’s words. And, for another example, I’m happy to pay for the education system and higher teacher pay for the best teachers for example, although my children are soon leaving the public school system. That‘s an investment in my country that won’t reap benefits in my lifetime, but perhaps in my children’s.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:38pm@JZS
Yes,yes I know, you have told us all that before, but you totally missed the point and sidestepped the issue.
If you don’t need a union, nobody needs a union.
Report Post »If you are a good employee, you will prosper.Even without a union.
If you are a slug, you probably need a union to prosper.
Dont-hate-on-me-2
Posted on June 14, 2011 at 7:06amwhat a dim wit, lets just crash the dollar before the end of the year huh. stupid gov and we let it get this big, now lets make it small, and make what will be left of America business friendly again,
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