WARSAW, Ohio (AP) — Strippers dressed in bikinis sunbathe in lawn chairs, their backs turned toward the gray clapboard church where men in ties and women in full-length skirts flock to Sunday morning services.
The strippers, fueled by Cheetos and nicotine, are protesting a fundamentalist Christian church whose Bible-brandishing congregants have picketed the club where they work. The dancers roll up with signs carrying messages adapted from Scripture, such as “Do unto others as you would have done unto you,” to counter church members who for four years have photographed license plates of patrons and asked them if their mothers and wives know their whereabouts.
The dueling demonstrations play out in central Ohio, where nine miles of cornfields and Amish-buggy crossing signs separate The Fox Hole strip club from New Beginnings Ministries.
Club owner Tommy George met with the preacher and offered to call off his not-quite-nude crew from their three-month-long protest if the church responds in kind. But pastor Bill Dunfee believes that a higher power has tasked him with shutting down the strip club.
“As a Christian community, we cannot share territory with the devil,” Dunfee said. “Light and darkness cannot exist together, so The Fox Hole has got to go.”
New Beginnings is one of four churches in this one-traffic-light village of 900 people, 60 miles outside Columbus. There’s one gas station and a sit-down restaurant that serves country staples like mashed potatoes with gravy and Salisbury steak.
On Sunday, four of The Fox Hole’s seven strippers and more than a dozen supporters garnered both scorn and compassion from churchgoers — and quite a few honks from pickup trucks and other passing vehicles.
One woman offered her skills as a hair dresser to the dancers: “If you or your kids ever need a haircut, give me a holler.” Another woman from the church waited on the protesters with plates of noodles and chocolate cake.
Laura Meske — known as Lola, stage age 36 but really 42 — hid behind a sign proclaiming, “Jesus loves the children of the world!” as the preacher extended his hand for a shake.
Two nights earlier, Dunfee and more than a dozen churchgoers stood outside the club, one of them calling out Meske’s stripper name.
“He who casts the first stone … ,” Meske said Sunday.
The pastor cut her off and repeated, “Lola, Lord bless you.”
“Everybody has sinned, and that doesn‘t mean I’m not gonna get into heaven,” she said, the stud piercing in her chin shimmering in the sunlight. “I believe in Jesus. I don’t believe what they preach. They preach hate.”
Debi Durr, who attends the church, disagreed. “You don’t stand up there for four years for hate. That’s not hate. That’s love,” she said. Durr left Meske with a copy of Jeremiah 3:13 — a Bible passage that urges sinners to acknowledge their guilt.
Inside the church, voices from the 121 congregants seemed to float to the cedar rafters as they sang lyrics projected on a screen. Outside, a man strummed a guitar and sang, “God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes.”
Dunfee has offered to help the strippers pay for food, rent, utilities and gas if they leave The Fox Hole. But many of the women say their jobs are only a stopover on the way to work in cosmetology or the medical field — a meal ticket that shelters them from another stigma: welfare.
“No little girl is growing up like, ‘I wanna do a pole trick,’” said Anny Donewald, a former stripper who lives in Grand Rapids, Mich., and ministers to dancers, prostitutes and porn stars.
She and other Christian groups that work with women in the adult entertainment industry have criticized Dunfee’s methods of ministry as a means of putting the strippers on the defensive instead of showing support.
“I never saw Jesus with a picket sign,” Donewald said.
Community advocacy groups, including Citizens for Community Values in Cincinnati, support Dunfee’s protests. But the group’s president, Phil Burress, said the strip club has a right to be there.
“It’s a legal business whether he likes it or I like it or not,” Burress said.
The club operates in a white plywood box of a building. Beer cans and a dollar bill peaked out from the grass like Easter eggs last Sunday.
The Fox Hole encourages customers to check out its $30 private dance special, promoting it on the kind of sign convenience stores use to advertise cheap milk and cigarettes. Out back, letters on a bulletin board have faded away so that “No touching” now reads “ouch.”
It’s here where dancers strip down to panties and pasties for cash. Meske — a tattooed mother of four — said she made $30 instead of a couple hundred dollars last Friday with the protesters outside.
“I’m not the most beautiful woman in the world,” she said. “I go out there and I try to make my money.”
A few houses and a ribs joint called Peggy Sue’s separate the club from another white building, a church where some of the strippers donate blood during drives for the American Red Cross.
“I got a church 900 feet down the street that causes me no problems,” club owner George said. “And I got this moron nine miles down the street that causes me more headaches.”
Rae Anderson, who heads New Castle Ministries with her husband, says her church believes Dunfee is doing what the Lord called him to do, but her parish takes a different approach.
“You can share the truth, but you can’t make anyone believe what you believe.”
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Associated Press Writer Doug Whiteman contributed to this report.
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Marcus Alexander
Posted on September 12, 2010 at 12:14pmOk, there is a strip club, there are thousands in Americam, what’s the big deal?
Please note I am not refering to all Christians by commentuing on this, but more and more Christians are contradicting themselves. Why are you protesting a strip club? Don’t Judge!
I’m not even a Christian and I know more about the Bible then many Christians do!
The Bible says to do this, why are you contradicting it? We’re not! Your doing the opposite of what is says!
You don’t have to a smart person to see that people are contradicting their own faith more and more!
Report Post »Daniel
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 2:03amReally? Personally, I don’t see any problem in the strip club business. Make sure you consider that preaching at these women won’t do anything to close the club. Who are we as people to judge other people? I’m not so learned in the bible to be quoting scripture, but I do seem to recall the New Testament teaching something about love, forgiveness, empathy, non-judgement, ect. Besides, I‘m pretty sure it doesn’t say anywhere in the bible that you can’t have a strip club. I‘ll leave the judgement to ol’ Saint Peter.
Report Post »patriotmcgee
Posted on September 8, 2010 at 7:06pm..and this is the update of the situation:
http://xxxchurch.com/getinvolved/index/blog/stripclubprotestupdate.html
Report Post »jfhunt
Posted on September 8, 2010 at 6:28pmA wise and true Christian would likely visit them as they gather at the church, pray for them where they are and offer to help them avoid that life if they are willing – they may secure a soul or two. Never forget the objective! Are we to accuse those who sin or give them the good news and thereby saves souls, Don’t forget, one of the many names of Satan is The Accuser.
Report Post »NickyLouse
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 11:24amJFHUNT,
We do not need to accuse non-Christians, but someone who professes to be a Christian that is caught in sin should be restored to Christ gently. I did not read anything in the article that showed that the congregation did not act gently. They offered blessings, they urged them to acknowledge their sin, and they offered financial assistance.
With respect to non-Christians, we should never point out a particular sin that we notice in them. They are sinners and that’s not the point. If we ask them if they think they need a Savior, they may say ‘no’. They may not know that they are sinning against God.
So we tell them about Him. We do not forget to tell them that He hates sin and will judge and destroy sin. He does not tolerate it or excuse it. We let them know in no uncertain terms that their immortal soul is in danger for eternity if they cling to their sin. They may object and claim that they are good people (or good enough). One sin is enough to separate us from God for eternity. If He allowed Himself to be in the presence of sin, He would not be just. However, in addition to being just God is gracious insomuch as He gives us the opportunity to exchange our sin for the righteousness of Jesus who lived a sinless life.
God’s wrath has been appeased toward sin because He poured it all out on Jesus. Our only responsibility is to humble ourselves to believe that it is true and to forsake our love of sin. When our entire lives are controlled by sin, we have grown to love it the same way that a kidnapped victim will grow to love their captor. We may hate our life, but feel helpless to overcome sin. None of us will live a sinless life even after we learn and accept those facts about Jesus. However, because God loved us first demonstrated by dying for us, we in turn love Him and live for His glory, trying as best we can to live without sin in our life. And by doing so, God changes our hearts into ones that no longer love the sin that held us captive.
Report Post »Mystic
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 12:12pmNICKYLOUSE – “…church members who for four years have photographed license plates of patrons and asked them if their mothers and wives know their whereabouts.” This is not really acting gently. This is an attack on this establishment. Although not a physical attack, they are attempting to destroy the income and lives of multiple people here. That is not gentle, it’s crossing a line. I’d like to hire some private investigators and follow this congregation around for a month, then hold a Powerpoint presentation in church showing everyone all of the skeletons in THEIR closets. :) Nobody is perfect, and leading your congregation into a witch-hunt shows that perhaps you should not be leading a group of easily influenced people. Can I hear a “Jim Jones” from the group?
Report Post »NickyLouse
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 11:20pmMYSTIC,
Please see my reply above as I combined my responses there.
Peace.
Report Post »paul8697
Posted on September 8, 2010 at 2:32pmIt is the responsibility of the “Church” to reach out to those in need and provide them with the means to pursue another profession.
Report Post »Mystic
Posted on September 8, 2010 at 7:56pmChristians should “reach out” by example. Show the rest of the people that a good Christian lifestyle is a great way to live and they will come to you. Going out and beating people over the head with religion tends to have the opposite affect. :)
Report Post »Devil in Arkansas
Posted on September 8, 2010 at 1:55pmKnowledge is the cure for religion.
It’s your right as an American to believe in any fairy tale you can think of. If you can think of a really good one, you’ll be tax-exempt, and get rich, too.
Officials who represent ANY religion will expose their intolerance for profit, which gives those who choose to believe, a black eye by proxy.
If God is not real, it surely would be necessary to invent Him.
Report Post »Mystic
Posted on September 8, 2010 at 1:13pmAs a people we are only truly free when we have the freedom to do the things we’d like to do without abuse from others. The same freedom that provides protection for the religious folks in this country to gather and sing praises to whatever they believe, is the exact same freedom the strippers should enjoy.
I served over twenty years in the military to defend this freedom for ALL Americans, and I really get annoyed when religious people think that they are somehow superior to everyone else.
You are free to worship any way you’d like. When you decide to rise up out of your place of worship and start forcing your beliefs on others, this is where you need to take a serious look inside yourselves. You do not tolerate others encroaching on your right to worship, so I would love for one of you to explain why it is acceptable for you to go after those who do not believe the same things as you.
Report Post »DeepInTheColaSC
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 10:56pmYour response answers your own question. What gives anyone the “right” you offer an observation that anything anyone does might be in error? Natural Law. You have the natural right to offer the observation, else you could not observe that murder is wrong, merely model non-murderous behavior.
Report Post »Since when is it so bad to say “I think what you do is not right/is immoral/is hazardous/is non-libertarian.” They have the same right to ignore the observation. If there are no mores, all laws become opinions or a tyranny of the majority.
Or do you instead object to “breaking someone’s rice bowl.” Making a stripper make less money? Or a drug dealer, bank robber, or the man stealing from the McD’s till? Ultimately this is the same argument.
Incidentally, I have more of a problem with breaking someone’s rice bowl, than telling them their rice or bread is earned in a morally unacceptable manner. So I speak, and try to offer alternatives.
NickyLouse
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 10:52amMYSTIC,
I appreciate your service in the name of freedom.
You wrote that religious people do not tolerate the encroachment on our right to worship. I don’t know how anyone could ever infringe on my right to do that. For even if they kill me, I will still be worshipping God in Heaven. If they close down my church, I will find another. If they close down every church, I will worship at home with others. If they break into my home to disperse us, I will worship on the sidewalks. If they throw me in prison, I will worship there. And as I said, if they kill me, I will still be worshipping God in Heaven. You see, I worship God wherever I am.
To answer your last question I think you may have a misunderstanding about why Christians seek out those who may not know God. Look at the following correlation. In service to the country, you may be given a free gift of a parachute if you fly. We see others on a flight who either do not have a parachute or they have not put it on and we naturally reach out to help them understand the danger that they face and how the parachute may save them (or WILL save them in the case of Jesus). We are not helping people with parachutes in order to improve the quality of their flight. Most likely, they will be less comfortable.
But if a Christian truly loves people, he will reach out to them to either: share the Gospel with them if they have not yet believed in Jesus; or admonish them to repent of sin and to draw close to God once again if they already do believe.
Report Post »Mystic
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 12:35pmMost of what you wrote has nothing to do with my comment, and the rest seems to be gibberish…
Report Post »Mystic
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 12:54pmNICKYLOUSE
First of all, my apologies. My last comment was for DEEPINTHECOLASC and not you. You just snuck in a reply between the post. :)
I agree that you can worship anywhere. My point is that if someone starts burning down churches, wants to remove, “In God We Trust” from our money, or stop praying in school, Christians rise up and start campaigns and get offended. So my comments stands. When people try to silence Christians they get upset. So… If Christians get upset when they are challenged why would they condone going out to disrupt others? It’s a bit hypocritical.
There is no confusion in my understanding of why Christians feel the need to “save” everyone, my problem comes when they go a little too far in their attempt. It’s actually admirable that they truly want to help others along a better path. In fact, I am not anti-Christian, and I actually think that if the world were more Christian things would be better. The problem I have is when Christians begin to feel that they should pressure others into their way of thinking. That is not Christian, that is dangerous.
Let people find God if they like the message, leave them alone if they do not.
To use your analogy, if you offer me a parachute and I say, “No thank you, I’d like to free-fall this one”, then leave me alone to enjoy the ride. :)
Report Post »NickyLouse
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 11:17pmMYSTIC,
Thank you for your well-thought out response.
I see your point about the way that they used shame to try to prevent people from going to the club. Perhaps if they had handed out Gospel tracks, there would not have been a conflict. However, if they noticed Christians going there, they would have very good reason to confront them with shame.
And I wholeheartedly agree that it is futile to repeatedly hammer on people who don’t want to listen. I hope this dialog has sharpened both of our sensibilities.
Report Post »Catalytic Convert
Posted on September 8, 2010 at 10:25amYou people need to stop feeling sorry for these “girls.” They are grown women who made their choices with the options they had, which are the same as anyone else has. No, we shouldn’t judge these women, but strip clubs are immoral and a stain on the community. They help to destroy the sanctity of sex, respect for interpersonal relationships in general, and establish unhealthy behavioral patterns. The church has a right to speak up. I am glad they do. And bless the hearts of the congregation for their service.
Report Post »Daniel
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 2:06amBut the church speaking up is hurting the club’s business, and exactly WHO says that strip clubs are bad? The people who go there are adults and should be able to make their own decisions without being judged,
Report Post »Immortalmortal
Posted on September 8, 2010 at 12:17amMore power to the ladies. You go girls.
Report Post »Vil
Posted on September 7, 2010 at 6:06pm“They know that they are sinning.” Even were I still Christian, I would disagree on principle. It is a common religious euphemism that everyone who is doing what one of a faith believes that no one should do “knows that they are sinning”. This is exactly the kind of arrogance against which Jesus is written to have spoken out against. Basically, when you get right down to it, you‘re saying that they’re doing the job that they do with the attitude of “I know that I’m making God angry, but I don’t care”. First, they’d have to believe in your god to even have that attitude. Not everyone does, or Christians wouldn’t have a reason to preach their Gospels. Secondly, many may even share your faith and still see nothing wrong in what they’re doing. Agree or disagree with it, but it happens.
Report Post »Most importantly, however, is that we are a nation of laws, and they are secular laws. Those secular laws are why those of you who agree with this kind of thing have the freedom to believe as you do without it being in secret and why you’re able to protest as you do without going to jail. Your protests won’t do anything positive. Oh, I know, right now *some* of you are probably thinking about what a horrible, deluded, mean-spirited liberal I am and maybe adding a few more crass judgments, but neither am I a liberal, and neither is that very Christian of you. Stop and consider what this type of thing really does. Many of these women can’t find other jobs, either because of the economy or because of mistakes that they’ve made in their lives. It happens. So here is this church protesting, which results in fewer people being there on the days of those protests, which results in less money in their pockets (or g-strings) which which they can feed themselves and their families. If you think that this is Christ-like, go back and read your Bibles. If you think that doing this is going to attract the victims of this protest (I call them victims because it makes it harder for them to feed themselves) to Christianity, then you truly are delusional. This pastor should ask himself if he‘s really speaking to god or if he’s speaking to his own religious zealotry. If he’s honest with himself, he will realize that it is the later and not the former.
Midwest Belle
Posted on September 6, 2010 at 10:25pmIt’s admirable to work to stay off welfare. If indeed, the girls are working their way thru school (whihc I doubt in some instances) let them. It’s their lives, let them “sin” if that’s their choice.
I’m also wondering why the church protested the strip club? Are the women all hot under the collars because maybe some husbands stopped in there for a beer after work? LOL
If the stripping is done INSIDE a building, where children aren’t exposed to it, what’s the problem??
Report Post »Midwest Belle
Posted on September 6, 2010 at 10:26pm‘xcuse the typos.
Report Post »Midwest Belle
Posted on September 6, 2010 at 10:28pm‘xcuse the typos please.
Report Post »Pierce
Posted on September 6, 2010 at 9:40pmLeave these poor girls alone. We have real problems in this country. If you believe strippers to be sinners then teach it in your homes and churches. God fearing people will then make the right choices and in the end when strip clubs aren’t making any money they will be shut down.
Until then these girls are employed and not on the government dole. That’s more than I can say for a lot of people these days – Christian and non-Christians.
Try feeding the hungry and clothing the poor Pastor…. What God didn’t call you to do that?
Report Post »SickTwistedFreak
Posted on September 1, 2010 at 9:39amThis story is worthless without pictures.
Report Post »AmericanDawg
Posted on September 1, 2010 at 9:07amWhat ~ No Pics ?
Report Post »catchies
Posted on September 7, 2010 at 6:31pmI was thinking the same….
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on September 8, 2010 at 1:56amsaw the girls on the news, believe me, you don‘t wanna see ’em, ugg. strip clubs are one thing– and a legit actual business, but some of these poor working gals would look bettter under a streetlight somewhere. both the meddling church and the working gals were wrong to mix it up even if they both got their 5 minutes of fame on tv.. ugg.
Report Post »Suddenly101
Posted on September 8, 2010 at 3:51pmBoys… of course you were thinking that. -.- I will never understand them.
Report Post »mizflame98
Posted on September 1, 2010 at 9:07amDo unto others is right. You’re not going to convert people by protesting the strip club. God has given us free will. Living the life of a good Christian who loves our neighbor is a more powerful way to convert these lost souls than denigrating them and their choices.
yungpunk
Posted on September 1, 2010 at 10:04amI think it is an important distinction to make that simply disagreeing with someone’s choices is not denigrating them. “denigrate – charge falsely or with malicious intent; attack the good name and reputation of someone”. I just want to be sure we all understand that a simple disagreement and expression of those differing beliefs is not HATE.
Report Post »NickyLouse
Posted on September 1, 2010 at 8:54amThe problem is not that the girls and their clients are sinning, which nobody disputes. It is true that everyone has sinned. Most strippers claim that they are working to pay for college or to stay off of welfare. They themselves know that they are sinning and they are trying to justify their choices. Otherwise, they wouldn’t have to try to validate stripping.
The problem is that if they believe that Jesus died for their sins, perhaps they also believe that God overlooks the sin of stripping because of their situation. Once a person has decided to see God as someone who has any tolerance for sin, they have made a god of their own liking and that is idolatry. God will never tolerate sin.
The girls who do not know Jesus need to hear the Gospel from someone who loves them. A christian may not be able to get close enough to reach them, but we must try to reach someone in their circle who is close enough. These girls are so far from God that the moment that you approach them, they flee just the same as darkness flees when a light is turned on. But they are lost and most of them are hurting. Find out who they trust somehow and be desperate to convince that person to share the Gospel with them. The process may take years, but if you truly love them you will find the energy of the Holy Spirit to enable you to do this.
Be careful though if you decide to do it. You must have the full armor of God. Do not think you are incapable of falling into sin. Pray before you go.
Report Post »Jeff in Miami
Posted on September 7, 2010 at 6:22amYou are quick to judge sinning but that really isn’t our job. You may want to get to know these people a little before condemning them to eternal flames. I personally don’t go to those places but understand they can make good money. It would be better to offer these people a better jobs leading to a path for them to have a better life. From what little I have read about the stipper business, most of the women were abused, drug addicts or under educated. These problems are hard on the best of people.
Don’t condemn, feel sorry for them and hope/pray they can find better work and life in the future.
Report Post »NickyLouse
Posted on September 7, 2010 at 10:45amJeff in Miami, Please let me respectfully disagree that it is not my job to judge whether something is sin or not. While I also must agree with you that I am not to condemn anyone for the Bible states in John 3:18 that those who do not believe in the Son of God (Jesus) are already condemned. So I don’t have to condemn even if it were my job. By the same token Jesus also did not condemn but came to save us. I thought that my original post made that clear. I was trying to make a distinction between those girls who do know Jesus as their Savior and those who do not. Those who do not know Jesus need to hear the Gospel. Those who claimed in the article that they “believe in Jesus” need their sins called out and convinced to repent.
But as for the matter of judging sin: I am perfectly capable of discerning whether something is sin or not for it is not me that is judging but the Holy Spirit who lives in me. I don’t say that arrogantly but instead I say it humbly as a matter of fact. I have compassion for any person who is having difficulty making ends meet, but I know that prostitution and/or stripping and pornography is a destroyer of lives. It would be less than loving for someone to condone their sin.
Report Post »cbarkly
Posted on September 8, 2010 at 1:26pmLook – there is no right to Judge ANYONE unless you have been in their shoes, And since you never will totally be in their shoes in each and every life experience they ever had – you therefore can never Judge ANYONE.
As such, keep to yourself. You want to quote John, by all means, quote him – and let its words resonate within YOU. But leave Judgment about others to yourself. You, like us all, have plenty to work on internally.
And speaking of sin – as long as you eat pig, any shellfish, fail to wear phyllactaries, fail to put fringes on the corner of your garments, or “work” on the first day of the “7th month” or the 15th of the “7th month” or the 15th of the “first month” then you’ve clearly sinned as those words as explicitly in the “Bible” – black and white – no extrapolation and interpretation needed. I dont see the words “stripping” or “nude dancing” in the Bible in black and white letters – youd have to extrapolate or interpret to find that as sinful, and you may be right/justified in doing so. But whats better than an extrapolation/interpretation? BLACK AND WHITE LETTERS. Black and White letters point to all the examples above – all of which I assume you fail to comply with.
Good luck brother.
Report Post »makesmewanda
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 12:37amThe problem with strippers/pornography is that it leaves the viewer with an insatiable appetite for more. Once that addiction is in place, the person addicted constantly needs a more intense encounter the next time it is viewed. Eventually this leads to extramarital affairs as the person addicted has the desire to act out what is seen and a spouse is not willing to do what the person addicted to lust wants to do.
Report Post »Admiring a beautiful person is not wrong– who hasn’t seen an airbrushed model on the cover of a magazine and taken a second (or however many) look? The problem is the lust factor. The purpose of strip clubs is to keep men coming back for more. Lust breeds in “a white plywood box of a building”, Las Vegas or Hugh Hefner’s home. Even Hughie boy admitted that nothing satisfies him anymore. What a sad existence to know that no matter what you do, you will always have a hunger inside that can not go away.
I applaud these faithful sons and daughters of God for having such integrity and faith in the Lord to do what they can to rid their community of such filth. I hope and pray the Lord blesses their lives and homes with His love and power.
NickyLouse
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 11:11amCBARKLEY,
Let me assure you that I am not without sin, for when I say that I am I am calling God a liar. If you want to admonish me for eating pork and such, I accept it. I will not be a stumbling block to a weaker brother. However, it is not what goes into our body that makes us unclean, but what comes out of the heart. Either way it still does not excuse the stripping/prostitution. Will I ever be completely without sin before Jesus comes to eliminate it altogether? No. But let me be clear about this: we do not need to clean up our lives before believing in Jesus. For nobody would ever get to that point. Accept Jesus, then allow Him to remove the sin in your life.
Report Post »grasshppr
Posted on September 12, 2010 at 4:29amHere is and idea:
How about you just freaking leave people alone, and let them live there lives as they choose. What right do you or anyone else have in telling people what they should or should not do for a living? You have no more right to dictate to me what I can or can not do for a living than I have in telling you what you should do. I thought in this “oh-so-great” country that freedom was a fundamental right. Unless my actions hurt or infringe on the liberties of another, neither you nor the government have a right to regulate, or control where and how i spend/earn my income. I have a right to not be harrassed by arrogant, self-rightous, religous zealots who proclaim their belief is the absolute authority on right and wrong in this world. I’m a grown ass man! I know what is right and wrong. I dont need you or any other nutjob telling me what is right or wrong for MY life and neither does anyone else in this world. Is it so hard for you people to just mind their own damn business? If you want to preach your beliefs to people, keep it to your congregation and to your children(hopefully your children will learn to think for themselves). If I want to hear your message, than as a grown-ass man, i can make the decission to come to your service or not. Its called personal choice and autonomy.
I think this world would be a much better place if people could just mind their own damn business and stay out of other folk’s lives. My business is not your business. The same holds true for the stripper’s and their patrons.
Report Post »TPARTY RADIO
Posted on August 30, 2010 at 11:59pmFolks got to eat.
Report Post »Leave them alone.
leumas
Posted on September 7, 2010 at 5:05amAmen, brother.
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