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Bill Maher to Tea Party: ‘Founding Fathers Would Have Hated Your Guts’
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Bill Maher closed out tonight’s season premiere of Real Time with one of his go-to bits: Tea Party (or, as he’d say, Teabagger) bashing. He hit on his usual points on the subject, like what he sees as racist sentiments in the Tea Party and religion (of which, of course, Maher isn’t much of a fan) with a slightly different conceit: he contrasted the Tea Party to the people they “believe are just like them, but aren’t”: the Founding Fathers.
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Comments (686)
redneck hickabilly
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:14amglen beck calls for none violence but its going to be a violent wildwest again give it ten years
Report Post »headbtweenlegs
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 4:33amWhy give it ten years? How about now?
Report Post »Socco
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:13amBecause he’s a Hatriot
Report Post »So
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:10amHatriot. Lol.
You nailed it.
Report Post »flagwaver18
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 11:47pmno he is a big“L” AS IN LOSER, Remember who Maher said the real hero’s of 911 were? I will never forget, Bill if you hate so much, why don’t you leave, you are scum.
Report Post »S_Malc13
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:13amBill is no different than Maury and Springer, master of a puppet audience. He peddles garbage to mindless fools that feed off of emotion, while he feels powerful for having ‘moved’ the crowd.
Report Post »bjt141
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:39amEh not really, this is why he gets respectable conservatives to come on his show that can actually speak without talking over others. That is why people like Issa go on his show, actual conservatives that have respect for others.
john bonham
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:35am@BJT141, Oh you mean all the RINO’s ? Those respectable republicans ? Okay, Got it..
Report Post »AmericanRider
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:13amBill is such a POS and he is wrong about everything that he says with such a smug grin, while the applause signs go off, so his lackey audience can cheer his nonsense. He still has no idea of what or who the Tea Party is….BTW if he wants civility then why does he use such terms as “Teabaggers” isn’t that a derogatory term referring to a sexual behavior and not a political movement…..
Report Post »Legal Immigrant
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:11amBill. The Governor from Maine just called.
He said “Kiss my butt”.
Report Post »RugDog
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:07amWhy is what this pathetic little troll says, NEWS?
C’mon Blaze! Isn’t their REAL news out there?
Report Post »GEW
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:06amIf he had his way he would have Tea Parties, Conservatives, and Christian, once again nail to crosses along the Appian Way…this is sad, really sad..
Report Post »bjt141
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:38amNo, not really, he is just sick of hearing tea party people hijacking the founding fathers even though they stood against a lot of what the tea party believes, no matter what Glenn Beck and Hannity tell you
IAMKROGAN
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 2:15amYeah, bjt, you would know for sure that hte Founders would be against Tea Partiers. You sound like Maher. Is that you Bill?
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 2:15am@bjt141
Report Post »Wrong–according to the Federalist Papers. Have you read them lately?
PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:03amThe Federalist Papers? The documents that worked so hard to give us a strong central government after the Articles of Confederation failed? I am not sure you’re barking up the right tree there–particularly since the Modern Tea Party is trying to being us Articles of Confederation 2.0
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 3:39pmpencilperson, once again, a shallow understanding of history. They were not for a “strong” central government.
Report Post »ICANHANDLETHETRUTH
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:06amWhy does he hate this country so much ???????
Report Post »bjt141
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:37amHe doesn’t, that’s just you making stuff up to make yourself feel special about yourself. That’s you taking somebody who disagrees with your own opinion and since you feel you are Captain America you portray the opposite person as something they are not. Wanting the country to be better and being honest about what we are isn’t hating the country, it’s striving for improvement, it is how success happens. When something is bad, if you keep saying it is great, change never happens.
angelcat
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:55amHe is the most bitter, self-hating, unhappy, nasty person. He is even meaner and nastier than Chris Matthews and Ed Schultz. The Founding Fathers would have joined the Tea Party since they believed in small government and fiscal responsibility. Maher’s hatred for the Tea Party is almost pathologicdal. He must feel very threatened by the Tea Party and it’s principles. Or maybe it is just the idea of any kind of moral priniciples that frightens him.
Report Post »Ryan Beaulieu
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:05amHe has the attitude of “My opinion is always right and I don’t wait to hear yours” so this guy really doesn’t bother me that much. He is a guy that blurts outlandish comments to get attention and its quite sad. Anyone who listens and follows someone who refuses to have honest debate and hear differing views and opinions is… “a moron” like Bill would say.
Report Post »IAMINFIDEL
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:04amBill who?
Report Post »john bonham
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:30amMaher
Report Post »fyvagirl
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:04amCivil? he needs to look it up!! Sad that he believes all this BS that comes out of his mouth! Which one of them is putting a target on who? I believe that his new title should be sandbagger!!LOL
Report Post »Socco
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:04amHow many times must we be offended by this pasty-face bufoon who looks like he comes from a Rathke tribe of Lepers?
I am cancellation HBO in protest of being constantly slandered by someone who has never met me. If enough of us canceled HBO, he would be moved to the history channel where facts and history can be re-written by hacks.
Report Post »titan
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:39ami know a couple that did just that. they switched to showtime. one of them did a long time ago when he said our pilots were murders when they dropped bombs in iraq. i no longer have hbo and i do miss some programming on it but it was worth it knowing that i wasn’t helping pay his wages. i think maher is a…..well i can’t say it on here. everyone just cancle HBO and see what happens :)
Report Post »Peabodyhere
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 2:52pmAlready cancelled my HBO….. Don’t want to contribute a penny to a network that allows the king of hate speech to continue to spew his hate for God and for the majority of America.
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:03amHe should watch this video, and give his opinions. I bet he would agree they had a point. Most progressives would:
“The Soviet Story”
Report Post »vimeo.com/10174182
seon
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:02am1.I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church. [Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason]
And this is the guy Glenn Beck dresses up as?
He’s right, most of the founding fathers were anti religious/pro science and pro constitution. Why is Obama being a scholar of the Constitution so bad? Before you bash Bill, just watch this video. If any of the founding fathers ran today the tea party would run against them and accuse them of being “Socialist”
Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:13amIf you ever bothered to WATCH Glenn Beck, instead of just spouting the party line, you’d actually KNOW what a liar Maher is.
Report Post »*PATRIOT*GAMES*
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:25amYou know nothing about the Founding Fathers, and even less about the TEA Party.
Report Post »Chris
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:58amIf they were all anti-religion than why did the all get down on their knees and pray at the Constitutional Convention? Where exactly do you think inalienable rights come from? Can you show me any hint of Socialism in the Declaration of Independence or The Constitution. Read some original sources before you comment again not the Progressive bias text books our children are forced to read in school. I don‘t care if it’s God, Jesus, Budda, or what, the Federalist Papers and the origninal writings of most of our founders where riddled with religion.
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:37pmAs usual Maher nails it and he is right on this topic.
This is the only site where people wear stupidity as a badge of honor.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:38pm13th is proving to be just another troll, nothing of substance, just insults. Please save us all time an avoid his vacuous insults in favor of discussing things with reasonable people.
Report Post »KeithOlberdink
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:02amSomebody get this clown into a padded cell.
Report Post »kinderweezer
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:02amAmen!
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:02amHe should watch this video, and give his opinions. I bet he would agree they had a point. Most progressives would:
“The Soviet Story”
Report Post »http://vimeo.com/10174182
CaptainSpaulding
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:59amIf we ignore Maher, he’ll go away.
Just like the New York Times. :)
Report Post »Socco
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:05amLets cancel HBO, and this will expedite his departure…
Report Post »bjt141
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:38amYeah, he‘s just been on the tv since the early 90’s and brought about some of your gods like Ann Coulter and O’Donnell, but yeah, he’ll go away real soon, because you don’t like him.
Sparky101
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:55amOops, looks like we may have picked up another person who trolls around to spout his “wisdom” to anyone who he disagrees with. It wouldn’t be so bad if these trolls actually wanted to engage in a discussion, but they all seem to want to put other’s down and spew hatred and “cutsy” invective to show us how intelligent they are compared to everyone else. I suppose that’s why we end up thinking it is the same person with multiple logons, they all have the same methods of incivility and sarcasm. I guess the true test would be to monitor if they ever say anything that even relates to a civil discussion. If their propensity is just to try to insult, then please don’t try to engage them. Don’t try to teach a pig to sing. It will only frustrate you and anger the pig.
Report Post »super_jalapeno
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:59amSuch “Civility”!
Report Post »CaptainSpaulding
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:58amAnd he’s lecturing us about being civil?
Report Post »NE Cowboy
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 10:58amEXACTLY!! I’m not even going to call him what he really is, he’s just NOT worth it. He’s actually quite pathatic and his hatred for America is now out in the open, has been for years. But now, he‘s trying to get his followers to commit to violence as that’s what they need now to put fourth there (left) radical agenda. I’m pretty sure how he would have been judged in 1776. Just don’t know if they would have had enough tar………..;)
Report Post »geminisailor
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:56amAnd they say that we conservatives need to have a more civil tone?
Report Post »Socco
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:56amTea Party To Bill Maher:
Founding Fathers would have put you in a colony with the other Lepers, but they would not have hated you.
Report Post »So
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:08amMaher is the lefts ever ready bunny.
Someone direct him to the door, so he will keep going, and going, and going. OUT.
Report Post »Deda1
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:55amThis dope head can’t get any dumber, he is so far out there he doesn‘t understand the Founding Fathers and their vision of Gov’t. They would love the Tea Party and probably hang Bill from a tree.
Report Post »Laus Deo
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:43amOh yes he can… And he will. Never underestimate the power of stupid.
Report Post »foobear
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 3:28amThe founding fathers were far more hardcore Tea Party-ish than the Tea Party.
I don’t recall the modern Tea Party destroying property, tar-and-feathering people, or taking up arms against the government.
Report Post »TruthLover
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 4:01amJust watched week 10 of the Truth Project tonight – all about the TRUTH behind what our founding fathers thought and believed. Maher is a product of revisionist history and might not even be to blame for this particular ignorant rant. He’s just spouting what he was taught in school.
Our founding fathers would be filled with hate and disgust if they were alive today – that’s for sure. But if any of it were directed at today’s TEA party, it would be because for all our efforts, we are still lazy and unproductive and have allowed their grand beautiful experiment to rot on the vine. They were not atheists as Maher asserts – but I don’t need to tell Blaze readers that. God help us all.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:00am“I don’t recall the modern Tea Party destroying property, tar-and-feathering people, or taking up arms against the government.”
Do any of you really mean anything specific when you say “Founding Fathers,“ or you just referring to ”long ago?” Which Founding Fathers took part in the Tea Party itself (Maybe Samuel Adams, but that’s it)? How many endorsed tarring and feathering?
Report Post »chazman
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:58pmI’d like to catch the creep walking down the street some night … I wonder where he lives?
Showtime
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:54amBill Maher has about as much intelligence as an empty ant hill.
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:32amReally? You think he’s unintelligent?
He’s smart, but agenda-oriented, that’s all. If anyone ever actually remembers the things Maher says, you’ll notice very quickly that he regularly contradicts himself. I’ve listened to him for a long time.
It’s not so much an overarching belief system or philosophy as much as he just likes to argue. As a result, he goes straight for the kill without running it past himself first. He doesn‘t filter his comments first to make sure he isn’t being a hypocrite. He just attacks as quickly and efficiently as possible and then moves on. He’ll argue one angle one week, and the polar opposite the next… it doesn’t matter to him, as long as it can be used and isn’t too obvious.
His system is simple: There is ALWAYS something to logically defend or ridicule in anything. Always. He just finds one category (defense) in the liberal side, and another (ridicule) on the conservative side. Everything else (I.E. reality) gets left on the cutting room floor. He simply runs with that, even if it doesn’t fit into the larger picture, and makes it into a witty joke. His audience laughs and thinks “Huh… that does make sense!” and before they get a chance to analyze it, he’s on to the next thing for them to laugh at.
Maher is exponentially more intelligent than his delusional audience. They like to think they are with him, but you can tell he has as much disdain for them as the next person; no matter who he talks to, the tone is exactly the same. It never changes for anyone.
Smart guy, but an angry one with an agenda. He’ll pound reality into his own little mould rather than be truly objective. Maher is 100% opinion, which is why he never has any bearing on politics at all, save for the odd contrived scandal for ratings.
You want hate? Maher is the guy. I think he even hates himself underneath it all. Why else would he be so angry all the time?
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:55amWhy are all of my comments always awaiting moderation? Can a mod let me know? I’m staying clear of keywords as far as I can tell.
Half of them never get approved and disappear, despite being supportive / neutral.
Report Post »Untameable-kate
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:56amI don’t know about that, doesn’t the ant hill at least still retain some ant droppings? Who is in this guys audience listening to him?? He is nothing more than a nasty little hate monger who needs a mommy.
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:57amIs it the word “analyze”?
Analyze
Whenever I type it I’m awaiting moderation.
Analyze
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 2:05amLet him keep on, along with the rest of the puppets of the lamestream media! People are tired of this hateful dialogue; and because of it, the Leftists are (1) losing credibility, (2) sounding hypocritical, and (3) losing support from their liberal base.
Even the lamest of brains can figure out that the Leftists NEVER have anything nice to say about conservatives, whether the conservative is an elected official or not. And, people are realizing that these lamestream nut jobs are simply hateful and liars. The Leftists don‘t realize that conservatives don’t have to defend themselves because people don’t believe them anymore, it’s gone on for so long. They’re like a broken record. (For those of you who don’t know what the tone arm does when a recording of music has a scratched groove, the record goes around and the needle of the tone arm replays the same groove. It gets really old really quick!
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:01amI wouldn’t hold me breath.
trolltrainer
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:10amWhat CAN you say about Maher? There can be no well thought out response to this because it is simply ludicrous and is so easily proven wrong. Maher is the best example of the fool who is deluded into believing he is smarter than everyone else. NOTHING he says ever makes sense. This is the same guy that says there is no hatred from the left and that he used to be moderate but is now extreme left because everything is shifting RIGHT. You cannot argue with that kind of thinking. He is a nut, much like Michael Moore is. They live in their own little universe.
Walkwithme, you want an intelligent reply? Simply study the founders and then look at the mission of the tea parties. It is as clear as can be. Would every founder agree with everything the tea party stands for? Of course not, they did not agree with each other. But their compromise has worked for over 200 years now and the tea party simply wants to go back to what they envisioned. No need to reply to Maher, he is totally irrelevant.
Report Post »john bonham
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:17am@ WALKOFFAPIER1966 & PUBICPENCILDICK… You get out what you out in.. Maher spews vile hateful crap, then the replies to the video are going to mirror that back at him…. Frankly, I agree with most of the comments.. Except, yours and WALKINGOFFAPIER.. Why ? Because they are just as vile and hateful as Maher’s.. Course I wouldn’t expect any different, since you all belong to the same mentally challenged camp..
Report Post »c10win
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:39amBM lives by ‘any publicity is good publicity’. Only way he gets noticed is by spreading hate and inciting violence. Just like obama, the libs have the blood of a 9 year old girl on their hands…
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 10:11amWell, I’m getting tired of waiting for The Blaze to fix their broken keyword system and / or approve my wrongly flagged comments so will just add them again, minus the magic word. My apologies if it comes up as a double post if they ever approve them:
@SHOWTIME
Really? You think he’s unintelligent?
If anyone ever actually remembers the things Maher says, you’ll notice very quickly that he regularly contradicts himself. I’ve listened to him for a long time.
It’s not so much an overarching belief system or philosophy as much as he just likes to argue. As a result, he goes straight for the kill without running it past himself first. He doesn‘t filter his comments first to make sure he isn’t being a hypocrite. He just attacks as quickly and efficiently as possible and then moves on. He’ll argue one angle one week, and the polar opposite the next… it doesn’t matter to him, as long as it can be used and isn’t too obvious.
His system is simple: There is ALWAYS something to logically defend or ridicule in anything. Always. He just finds one category (defense) in the liberal side, and another (ridicule) on the conservative side. Everything else (I.E. reality) gets left on the cutting room floor. He simply runs with that, even if it doesn’t fit into the larger picture, and makes it into a witty joke. His audience laughs and thinks “Huh… that does make sense!” and before they get a chance to think about it, he’s on to the next thing for them to laugh at.
Maher is exponentially more intelligent than his delusional audience. They like to think they are with him, but you can tell he has as much disdain for them as the next person; no matter who he talks to, the tone is exactly the same. It never changes for anyone.
Smart guy, but an angry one with an agenda. He’ll pound reality into his own little mould rather than be truly objective. Maher is 100% opinion, which is why he never has any bearing on politics at all, save for the odd contrived scandal for ratings.
You want hate? Maher is the guy. I think he even hates himself underneath it all. Why else would he be so angry all the time?
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 10:27amAll these nasty attacks, and somehow no one has gotten around to actually arguing with Maher. I’m not a huge fan of Maher, but you are all just showing how poorly you deal with opposing arguments.
If you want to carry the banner of the Founding Fathers, you should really know something about them.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 11:32am@N37BU6
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 10:11am
Okay!
He was one of the four spotlighted by Fox News as making the dumbest remarks. Personally, I can’t stand him — or Chris Tingle, either. In fact, I didn’t like Juan Williams until he came to Fox News. He’s doing a decent job with Fox now.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:33pmVery good TrollTrainer. I agree that it was wrong of Maher to characterize Paine as an atheist–although religious people in America (like Beck) completely demolished Paine’s reputation in the US with charges of atheism after the publication of the Age of Reason. As a deist, he was extremely skeptical of churches or of any organized religion, and believed strongly in the seperation of church and state.
So you tell me: would Beck and Paine get along? I think not.
Report Post »LadybugsTX
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 4:08amI certainly don’t think Maher is unintellegent. Quite the contrary. He’s just chooses to be uninformed because it serves his agenda, and any chance he has of changing that is obstructed by a disease that is an epidemic in left-winged ideological circles. You may have heard of it. It’s “Smartest Person in the Room” disease.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 3:17pmpublicpencil, you say “So you tell me: would Beck and Paine get along? I think not.” and I say who cares what you think, you certainly don’t know. I don’t think any of our founders would get along with you, they were real men.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 3:29pmpublicpencil, you say “If you want to carry the banner of the Founding Fathers, you should really know something about them.” Oh, like you know something?
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 3:41pmHaha! I think Sparky the BeckBot blew a fuse! It would be sad if it wasn’t so entertaining!
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 4:07pmThe Founding Fathers would be proud.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 4:12pmYes, but not of you.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 4:23pmHehe. Someone needs a nap.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 4:45pmGo ahead, I can wait.
Report Post »912828Buckeye
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:54amThis guy needs a new act. Or he could just go away. PLEASE!
Report Post »silveracer44
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:59amHe’s just a shill for the globalist filth. His day will come soon enough.
Report Post »912828Buckeye
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:59amHow bout that my 3rd 1st.
NeoFan
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:03amHey Bill, God hates you. The Westboro Baptists told me.
Report Post »adjams
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:03amCan we just ignore this guy? Seriously. How in the world is he relevant?
cheezwhiz
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:08amSo he didn‘t get Hussain’s message of love and tolerance and civility yet ?
Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:11amWhat is his t.v. rating anyway? Who pays for his show to stay on television? I can’t believe Americans actually watch this slime bag.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:12amThey would have unanimously convicted him of treason and volunteered to have pulled the trigger, lever, or slapped the horse.
Report Post »jusayin
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:17amIs this what a bad comedian does to try to get laughs?
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:18amCan’t really blame his audience. i went to a live taping once and was passed many bowls of burning weed while I was there, provided by the producers. I declined and din’t clap or cheer.
But then, I wasn’t stoned.
My bad.
This guy is only preaching to the choir, so don’t be alarmed. I know a few independants on the fence and they watch this show. And they retch after every viewing.
God rot you, Bill Mayer. I’m sure your athiestic beliefs will welcome His judgement on that aspect.
ltb
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:42amThe Tea Party has really gotten under his skin. Poor little guy.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:52amBut…b..bbb…but ….Cloward’s Piven says that TEA parties are about s e x ….
Report Post »and if that is true….shouldn’t libs be actually proud of us ..?
Why the hating Maher ?
ottodiedacktick
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 2:29am@BUCK:
I don’t get this guy. Which founding fathers is he talking about? Is he talking about the small gov’t, freedom loving, self-sufficient Puritans of the Mass. Bay Colony or is he talking about the globalist, church-state plantation Anglicans of Jamestown? I don’t know, I’m confused. He seems like a total Lib, globalist elitist aristocracy of the Jamestown plantation. I like the Puritans, go William Bradford!
Report Post »BMartin1776
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 4:04amI cannot stand this waste of human flesh. He FAILED at being a comedian… he FAILED at being an actor and he FAILS as a tv host launching one bomb after another at honest hard working country loving Americans.
Pls ppl start putting my tactics to use put this disgrace of a human being under a microscope and make his life miserable, civil within the rule of law!
This attitude is why I use him as one of the many examples in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1zkGZRfj24
Stop playing their game, take the gloves off and hit them hard http://www.savingtherepublic.com
Report Post »JCoolman
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 4:04amHey Bill,
The founders of the United States of America were not Marx and Engels.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:12amAs a homeschooling mom…with a fifth grade student…been reading alot about our founding fathers..I believe Bill has it all wrong…fact is alot of Americans today feel just the way our founders felt..
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:51amIf the founders would have hated the Tea Party, they would have put a bounty on Bill Maher.
Report Post »Satyr
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:21amHe gets an average of 1.2 million views per broadcast.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:57amSome facts were wrong; some were greatly distorted to fit his agenda. What else would you expect from this clown?
Report Post »guyperram
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:07amI wonder if we could get the Westboro Baptists to be his audience. That could be interesting, the far out religious with a marxist not funny comedian.
Report Post »Talk about hate speach, this guy should be arrested for opening his mouth.
Michiganjohn
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:08amBill Maher would have been camped out under the desk of General Cornwallis.
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:18amThe only people who watch his show are the E’or types. Pessimists. That is the left. The only way we even know he exists is when he lashes out and says something to hurt others.
Report Post »Jackers
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:23amThose who laugh first, laugh last… Enjoy your moments of comedy, Bill Maher, while you can because the vast majority of the American people have woken up and are not laughing with our current state of affairs…
Our Tea Party movement continues to grow in strength and clout; and the stronger we get, the more nervous these “fringe” Progressive Hacks become… Let the good times begin.
Report Post »avenger
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:47amhas anyone checked to see if billy owns a Glock,this guy is on the verge…….
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:01amPoor Maher, he has become so useless to society that he hopes speaking lies about the Tea Party may keep him in the spotlight. Poor Maher, so sad, too bad nobody cares anymore what he says because nobody is listening.
Keep moving forward towards your goals Tea Party and when a pile of trash is in the way just step over it!
Report Post »chazman
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:04amThe Blaze, and the rest of the world, needs to PLEASE ignore this FOOL!
Report Post »chazman
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:06amDear Blaze,
If you give this as*hole anymore air time / attention, I am going to delete your website FOREVER!!
Report Post »Maher is a non-human turd! He is not worth looking at!! Get it together!!
grandmaof5
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:09amHe probably hasn’t read a history (historically correct) book in his entire life. Just another pundit stirring the pot of hateful rhetoric that Obama wishes would stop (r-i-g-h-t…..)
Report Post »byehlik
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:44amBill who?
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:58amSo, a number of you claim that there are all kinds of historical inaccuracies in what Maher said. Anyone care to give an example?
c10win
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:19amHe’s right you know. Our founding fathers, had they been at the scene of a mass shooting, just like BM, would have cowered with their hands over their heads until a 61 year old woman came to their rescue and disarmed the gunman. Isn’t that how we have won past wars? Waiting for our women to act while we cowered? No, BM, what is really happening is this is your (meaning liberals) last hurrah, you have lost, and ya’ll are having a hard time accepting the fact you will not take over America. Therefore, libbies are all reading off the same sheet of paper, making hateful remarks and stirring up trouble. Hurts, doesn’t it? Now, I’m going to the bathroom and give birth to another BM. Get back with me when you give up all your money except for 28,000 a year and maybe we can talk again.
Report Post »Marcobob69
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:20amMaybe so, BUT the Founding Fathers, listening to his left-wing liberal communist diatribe, would have SHOT his ass in a HEARTBEAT!!!
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:26amI use to be a fan of his being that I’m Agnostic. I understand not all the founding fathers were anti-big Government but the brightest and most influential founding fathers were anti-federalist. Those are the ones I associate myself with and with whom the Tea Party can align with. The Federalist of those days wouldn’t be. But before there were federalist and anti-federalist, there were people who said no to tyranny, no to over taxation, no to absolute rule. The founders didn’t want free healthcare, they wanted to be left alone.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:32amPubliusPencilman asks “So, a number of you claim that there are all kinds of historical inaccuracies in what Maher said. Anyone care to give an example?”
I’ll give two from immediately past history, Sarah Palin knows there are more than 6 languages in the world (publiuspencilman has no idea how many more than 6). Bill O‘Riley knows what affects the tides and he also knows how Gorge Soros’ money affects the Tides).
Report Post »exdem
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:37amHe hates a political figure or group
Report Post »He is obsessed and cant stop talking about them
He smokes dope
Goes off on bizarre nonsense filled rants
He has a twisted perception of reality
Proud of being an outcast
Aren’t these the same warnings signs that were ignored in the Arizona shooter?
AzDebi
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:41amYou know what’s really scary about this? Even though I was raised in a strict family of mid-west Democrats, I became a Republican during the Reagan years…but…I was ALWAYS pretty much a “milk-toast” kind of Conservative…UNTIL… I read
“The US Constitution and The Declaration of Independence (in their entirety),
The Federalist Papers (thanks to Janine Turner…the actress…who held classes on line),
Common Sense (by Thomas Paine and by Glenn Beck),
The 5,000 Year Leap,
The Real George Washington,
Sacred Fire,
The Road to Serfdom,
Original Intent,
A Patriots History of the United States…
AND I probably would have laughed at Bill Maher’s jokes …I wouldn’t have agreed with his hatefulness…but…I’d have found humor in the way he portrays the Tea Party and our inflexibility!
Thank you Glenn, David Barton and all those who seek the TRUTH!
Report Post »Celexa
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:44amI warned HBO if they continued to air his show, then I (as well as my friends and family), would discontinue service with HBO. I suggest that everyone should do the same. Hit them in the pocketbook, then maybe they will fire him once and for all. This man has spewed more hate than any talkshow hosts I ever listened to. God Bless America, God Bless the Teaparty, God Bless our Military. etc, etc. etc.
Report Post »jblaze
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:50amHe is just showing how uneducated he really is about American history! Now that Americans have once more educated themselves regarding the founding Fathers his rantings only service to reflect poorly on his lack of intelligence.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:57amBill Maher, honestly, stop the hate speech. All America is tired of it. You are the King of hate. Besides who really cares what you say? If there’s something good going on you denigrate it. You can call yourself a comedian, but I call you a very sick person who is only happy being hateful.
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:58amSorry Bill, but the only “founding father” of a country that you can relate to was named – Lenin.
Report Post »Rn mom
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 10:15amthis idiot is a TV troll!
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 10:23amSparky,
Well done. You have thoroughly proven that you do not understand what a joke is. You have also proven how sad it is when one so transparently dodges a straightfoward question.
But really, where are all these historical inaccuracies about the Founding Fathers?
Report Post »American exceptionalism
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 10:23am@BYEHLIK….. Maher…
Report Post »kwatch
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 10:47amHe is just trying to get us riled – stay cool people. That is their game remember.
Report Post »NE Cowboy
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 11:04amNope, he’ll just hang around like an ole hemoroid tissue. Kinda looks like one too………..;)
Report Post »BoiseBaked
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 11:33amBill who?
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 11:37amPubliusPencilman, he characterizes the 3/5 clause a negative, when in fact, it was the opposite. This reduced the representation of the southern states taking away their ability to successfully vote to continue slavery.
True, some of the founders were anti-established religion, but that didn‘t mean they didn’t believe in God or a creator. The influence of which is seen in many of our founding documents, laws and traditions. The POTUS left out words when he said “We are endowed ____ with certain inalienable rights”. That’s because progressives want you to believe your rights come from man and not from the creator. If man grants you these rights, man can take away the rights. My inalienable rights come from the creator, and government has no right to take them away, unless I violate another’s rights.
Yes, most of the founders were indeed lawyers. Unlike the lawyers of today, they used their knowledge and education to create system of government to preserve the rights of citizens. President Obama taught courses in constitutional law at the University of Chicago. In my humble opinion, he learned constitutional law so as to find ways around the constitution. President Obama said “the constitution is a charter of negative liberties”. That was by-design to prevent an over-intrusive government and to preserve our rights. I choose keep it this way.
Report Post »davecoolworld
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 11:38amMaher is smart and uses his mind to be a smartass, that’s it. He lost his edge for comedy a long time ago. He has become an operative. If he makes it…he will be talking like this for a looong time. Think about that old bag Piven….although Maher may be a better looking woman when he gets to her age.
Report Post »dontcryglenn
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 11:45amThe Founding Fathers would hate the NAACP even more Bill.
Report Post »rubintheartist
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:11pmIdiot and Bully, Maher shows off his brainwashed pea-brain with every word that falls out of his elitist mouth. But, is he just stupid or is there something more going on – like Money, Money, Money???
Report Post »The new animated video that parallels America answers tis question with much needed humor.
http://www.marcrubin.com/Hairmerica.ivnu
dontcryglenn
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:24pmN37, this website is a joke and has all kinds of major bugs that are hillarious. The idiots in charge can‘t even ensure that your screen name doesn’t get hijacked.
Report Post »dontcryglenn
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:25pmWhere’s beckisnuts today? that guy was great. Funny as hell and nobody but nobody could get at the guy. He had an answer for every attacker and still made more sense than anybody here. Who killed him off?
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:41pmdontcryglenn AKA beckisnuts, what a sad piece of self-promotion. You got them nuts handed back to you on a regular basis and whenever cornered, slithered back under your troll bridge. How many names do you use here anyway?
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:54pmBill Maher, would have been put in chains by our founding fathers!
Report Post »orkydorky
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:10pmWhat a waste of anyone’s time to listen to this slime ball. He neither knows facts or uses them in his Demonic rhetoric that he peddles to the few Atheist morons that happens to be his audience. Those that believe his garbage, need to look in the mirror, ask themselves how they suddenly appeared on this earth, and the best question of all, where did my soul come from?
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:35pmThis guy has a net worth of millions but is too stupid to get a nose job.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:40pmSparky,
Again, you are terribly confused. “the men gathered at the Constitutional Convention did not believe that slaves were 3/5ths of a person, as Maher implies, and then turns into a joke against the Tea Party.” Their compromise did treat slaves as 3/5ths of a person for the purposes of the census, so I am not sure what your problem with that point is. At least TexasCommonsense offered an argument taht what not entirely based on willful ignorance.
TexasCommonsense,
“he characterizes the 3/5 clause a negative, when in fact, it was the opposite. This reduced the representation of the southern states taking away their ability to successfully vote to continue slavery.” Let’s be perfectly honest here: it is always a negative when human beings are enslaved and then treated like 3/5ths of a human being. The problem with your point is that you think that the compromise is all one or the other. It was, however, a compromise–it is “good” that the South did not fully benefit from their enslaved population for the purposes of political representation, but it is obviously bad that they were given ANY additional political weight from the the African they tortured. I think any effort to turn this national disgrace into a “positive” thing is just disingenuous.
As far as your other points, they have far more to do with your personal opinion than they do with any actual historical inaccuracies.
Report Post »exdem
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 2:16pmDontCryGlenn is crying over BeckIsNuts !!!! bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!
Report Post »I am starting to think these clowns are the same person– Crazy obsessed Bill Maher !!
Everytime Maher opens his mouth he creates that which he hates:
MORE TEA PARTIERS !!
Thanks Bill
we appreciate your help with recruiting
Godseyesareonthem
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 2:26pmYou don’t MOCK GOD!! Just proves that a raw nerve has been hit with the left and their bunch of clueless idiot followers (cult). They would like to believe we are all a bunch of country bumpkins. Guess what country folk know how to survive no matter how much crap they throw our way. Wonder who did his research on the founding fathers, perhaps the one that runs Obama’s teleprompter. Another one that perhaps is funded by Soros (did anyone else also notice his name is the same if it is spelled backwards?). Maher is obviously also a devout atheist.
Report Post »taskmaster78
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 2:44pmI think he forgot to take his meds that morning. He is in my opinion one of the most hateful people I ever heard and he actually believes his own BS. He was a poor stand up and he remains a poor individual.
Report Post »craftemp
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 3:16pmBill Maher would not recognize the truth if he fell over it!
Report Post »All he can do is bash America – because he hates it so much..
How many times have you heard him say “Americans are STUPID” ??
VoteBushIn12
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 3:41pm@GodLovinMom
The thought of you teaching anyone scares me.
Report Post »James
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 3:57pmHe doesn’t need a new act, he just needs to go away.
Report Post »Oath2Honor
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 4:27pmRegarding the words that are flowing out of the mouth of Bill Maher:
There is no Truth heard from the mouth of this person. Those who are
Children of God (YHVH) are able to discern this, through Jesus (Yeshua)
Christ and the Holy Spirit (Ruach).
Quote from Matthew Henry’s Concise Commentary, “8:41-47 Satan prompts men to excesses by which they murder themselves and others, while what he puts into the mind tends to ruin men’s souls. He is the great promoter of falsehood of every kind. He is a liar, all his temptations are carried on by his calling evil good, and good evil, and promising freedom in sin. He is the author of all lies; whom liars resemble and obey, with whom all liars shall have their portion forever. The special lusts of the devil are spiritual wickedness, the lusts of the mind, and corrupt reasonings, pride and envy, wrath and malice, enmity to good, and enticing others to evil. By the truth, here understand the revealed will of God as to the salvation of men by Jesus Christ,”
We are not allowed to judge others. Judgment belongs to God, but we have been given the responsibility to discern the spirit, which flows out of the mouths of others. Jesus spoke in the Word of God regarding these people.
Quote from John 8:44 (Jesus replies to the Sadducees & Pharisees), “You are from your father,
the devil, and you prefer to do what your father wants. He was a murderer from the start; he was never grounded in the truth; there is no truth in him at all. When he lies he is speaking true to his nature, because he is a liar, and the father of lies.”
(Prophecy regarding the Famine and Drought of the Word of God, In the Last Days):
Amos 8:11-12, “The days are coming—declares the Lord YHVH—When I shall send a famine on the country, not hunger for food, not thirst for water, but famine for hearing YHVH’s word. People will stagger from sea to sea, will wander from the north to the east, searching for YHVH’s word, but will not find it.”
God’s word speaks in prophecy, of the children being taught lies. (Quoted from Amos 8:13):
Report Post »“That day, fine girls and stalwart youths will faint from thirst.”
1TrueOne55
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 4:56pmOnce his ratings die to a level like they did at ABC then he will be gone. This is the reason that Liberal Talk Radio failed with Air America and New Minnesota Senator Al Franken. The constant personal attacks on religion since most Liberals are also “Christians”, maybe in name and not deed, but they still have a spiritual nature and this Liberal spin is anathema to that.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:44pmMore from the delusional left (was that redundant? I think so) .. anyway Who does he think the founding fathers would support the OVER TAXING OVER REGULATING OVER SPENDING DEMS? .. LOL this guy just keeps going further over the cliff …..
Report Post »1TrueOne55
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 5:47pmThere might be some truth to what Maher is saying because the founding fathers would call todays T.E.A. party Whimps for not taking it farther than just protesting. Because after they through the physical Tea Crates into Boston Harbor the British Army started rounding up dissidents and that is when the shooting started. Boston was a hot bed for Revolutionary vitriol from its citizens.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 6:56pmPubicpencil, you are so full of it that you cannot face facts. As I said ” “the men gathered at the Constitutional Convention did not believe that slaves were 3/5ths of a person, as Maher implies, and then turns into a joke against the Tea Party.” It is an historical innacuracy to make a claim that these men “believed” that slaves were 3/5ths of a person. It would only take you a few days to do the research to prove that fact. As you are not aware of the history you try to defend, it’s like boxing with an unarmed person, but when it’s put right in front of you by those who do know, you make a lame defense that involves nothing of fact. Again, I‘ve offered four examples of Maher’s inaccurate portrayal of history. You‘ve done nothing intelligent to defend your position against what I’ve brought to your attention. Perhaps you are just another troll. If not, you are simply wrong and misguided. Open your eyes and don’t act like a fool. Wise up.
Report Post »Lucy Larue
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:01pmBuckeye,
First off, the Founding Fathers would never use the disparaging words that “Little Bill” uses to reference the Tea Party.
“Little Bill” is just that! He is very small. During the Revolutionary War I imagine that “Little Bill” would be dressed in foppish finery welcoming the British onslaught to fight the American rabble.
“Little Bill” is wrong in EVERYTHING that he says.
And to the Pencilman; No one here has to engage in debate what “Little Bill” says EVER. Got it Pencil?
Report Post »“Little Bill” is not worth a thought, let alone debate.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 7:22pmSparky, let’s take a look at those “four examples”:
1) Sarah Palin knows that there are more than 6 languages
This has nothing to do with “historical inaccuracies,” and was clearly a joke that was not meant to be taken literally (this is why I suggested that you do not know what a joke is)
2) Bill O’Reilly knows how tides work
Well, despite the fact that he keeps claiming that he doesn’t understand how they work, this is the same issue as above. A joke that has nothing to do with history. These points were clearly a dodge, based on your silly determination to take everything literally.
3) “They think that blacks are 3/5ths of a person.”
Note here that the point of this joke is that the “they” is the Tea Party, so you clearly did not follow what he was saying, or you again simply did not understand the joke. Sure, you can take offense all you want, but this does not actually fall under the category of historical inaccuracy.
4) The implication that Jesus was a pedophile
You do understand that Maher was not literally saying that Jesus was a pedophile right? He was making fun of the image, with a reference to the priest sex scandals. Again, not an issue of “historical accuracy.” It was a joke.
So there you go. You haven’t accounted for anything to do with the actual Founding Fathers. Please try to think a bit more before posting another one of your “arguments.”
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:46pmPubicpencilman, it is you that do not grasp the innuendo. Sure they are “jokes.” But they are jokes with an attempt to tie the people being trashed to something they’ve supposendly said or done.
I see you completely missed the Tides bit, but that is expected of one so inept in current (or past) events as you’ve proven.
And you completely missed the reference to “pedophile priests” who in fact were not pedophiles. That Bill used Jesus to make his joke, indicates his deep seated hatred and bigotry. That you defend it shows you are in the same place.
Now, if Bill Maher is only a comic making comedy, then why are you so worried about any “historical” references anyway. What’s your point troll?
I‘ve provided four examples of Bill’s twisted use of both current and past history, to make lame jokes. You’ve been unable to validly refute any of my examples, but do try your best to side step the reality of what I’ve said. Everyone here (except trolls) see what you are doing. You’d argue black was white. If you wish to debate, then man-up.
Report Post »aug282010
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 9:12pmHe gets way too much attention on The Blaze. Please stop.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 10:21pmYes Sparky. If only people told jokes that only told the literal truth. If only no one every engaged in hyperbole!
Yes! Bill is a comedian, making jokes. If it would make you feel better, I will admit fully that Sarah Palin knows that there are more than six languages. I also think Bill O’Reilly probably knows at least some of the science about the tides–Maher was mocking O‘Reilly for the rhetorical argument he’s always making, which is silly. Would it make you feel better if I said that I cannot possibly refute your complete refusal to understand sarcasm and irony?
I’m not really trying to defend Maher–the problem is that none of you are actually attempting to disprove Maher’s central point, which is that the Tea Party makes the “Founders” into who they want them to be rather than who they actually were. It’s because I actually know something about history that this is so annoying to me.
But hey… feel free to make small, petty points about how Maher’s jokes are not the literal truth. I’m just enjoying the show.
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 11:55pm@AMERICAN SOLDIER, you are among the best posters on this site. keep truckin’ your non- sanctioned truth to us all, it is abreath of freash air!
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 12:00am@Celexa
Report Post »No, by the contrary, we NEED to have folks like him spewiong what the left has on their minds. There is gonna be an ideological war very soon, and we NEED to know what they are thinking.
“Know your enemy as you know yourself in in 100 battles you shall be victorious”
Sun Tzu, “The Art of War”
My Sacred Honor
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 12:06am@ DONTCRYGLENN, I believe I have trounced you on every occation, and then you shut your hole and left weeping. care to try me again?
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 12:39am@ PLUBIOUS oh my good God let me respond, line by line. Bill‘s ’sarcasm’ and “humo”r is coming from a concept of propaganda, and is being used as a tool to convince those in the middle ground who watch his show to believe his lies and rhetoric. Let me explain line by line.
-“Teabaggers”. Why is that still a funny line to him?
-”Thimk of blacks as 3/5ths of a person”. Does this degenerate ingrate know that the “3/5ths” clause was the comprimise that all our founders thought as a comprimise to where slavery, in it’s abhorance, would eventually be abolished due to the lack of votes garnered in the south?
-Tell me, Bill why the Founders would have “hated my guts”. Tell me intellectually instead of sarcastically and blown it off.
-Oh my biggest peave, “and they thought the bible was mostly BS”. You ever read Jefferson’s letters, boy? Or even what the other founders said about religion here?
- And 200 years ago, Lawyers were respected and just people, ESPECIALY those whose served on the Continental Congress..
Lawyers today seek to subvert through loophole and pervert tyhe Const5itution in any way they can. For the most part, there are still some left who uphold the laws and protect the people.
I think this guy is a tool in the highest regeard, and should NOT be ignored as he is one of the left’s best propagandist puppets. He should be studied as he tells the sheep on the left how to think every week, and we should know what he is saying. DO NOT take him off the air, EVER! He is the best tool we have to know what those on the left are feeling and we can certainly use this to know where those 30% are being led at any given time.
Semper Fi, and “Know your enemy”
Report Post »naed5048
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 1:46amhe’s getting to much publicity on the blaze… If it wasn’t for hbo who would know who he hell he is
Report Post »legendarytwo
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 1:59amTrue progressives like Maher base their ideology on man’s rebellion against God and His established order. True progressives are anti-Christ by nature and therefore enemies of God. The Tea Party is God inspired patriotism rising from within His people. Therefore it is a movement progressives cannot feel or understand. Bill proved this by his statements. God uses empty vessels. Maher is just full of himself.
Report Post »LadybugsTX
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 3:23amUgh. I have free HBO for three months with my new service provider. I think I’ll turn it off. It isn’t worth the price.
Report Post »LadybugsTX
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 3:47amUhhh. No Publius. Wrong. The 3/5th clause was not applied to each slave individually as 3/5ths of a person silly boy. What happened was that they didn’t want to give the slave states a majority of seats in Congress, you know, because Congressional seats are based on citizen count in a district. At first they argued that if slaves were property instead of people like the slave owners claimed, then they shouldn’t be counted at all. The slave states then wanted to back out of the whole deal. So they compromised and determined that the slave states could only count 3/5ths of the slave population as a whole, but nice try nimrod.
Report Post »quiet little lamb
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 6:02amhe did get O’Reilly good though. it’s the moon bill. the MOOOOOON!
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 7:16amBilly is just a hater – Hates America, Hates God and He hates himself – poor little wanker!
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 8:56amPubliusPencilman, despite the lack of time, will, or possibly not being able to find just the right words, most conservatives I’ve met understand what it is about what Bill Maher said that makes them so angry. They know he chooses his scripted words very carefully in order to denigrate, with his bully pulpit, those with whom he disagrees. They understand how much and why they love their country. They understand that, while their country may have some flaws, it’s still the best place in the world to live. That’s mostly because of the way in which our founding fathers created our republic and wrote our constitution, and other founding documents. They know these things in their hearts and react viscerally when hearing things like this from Bill Maher, and reading things like from WhiteTeaParty who said “You people that follow the Blaze religously are so stupid”. It is human nature to react harshly, but that doesn’t mean they wrong, uneducated or stupid for feeling that way.
The hateful rhetoric spewing from people like Bill Maher, Kathy Griffin, Janeane Garofalo, Rosie O’Donnell, Alan Grayson and many others, does nothing but incite hatred and cause division. Something and already divided country simply does not need. Understandably, it makes people angry and makes their blood boil. The people listed above are what I call cold-blooded haters. They plan theirs words carefully and use them to against people who love their country. They talk down to and denigrate the very people they need to sustain their pointless lives. Trucker drivers, farmers, factory workers, repair people, etc. People who don’t live in their elite bubble, but people the elitists need just to live their lives. Their utopian world simply wouldn’t exist without the people they’re calling stupid and uneducated. While they may have the right, thanks to the freedom in our country, they have no reason to say the hateful things they say. Stop the hate speech, Bill!
I attended a tea party rally at the Southfork Ranch. I was not able to attend the 8/28 rally, but my best friend did. The people we meet at these events are not haters, or racist, or anything else like this. They stand for family values, self-reliance, and fiscal restraint in our country. They‘re good hard working people who love their country the way is and don’t want to see it “fundamentally transformed”, or to have the POTUS “spread the wealth around”. They don’t want to hear their president say things like “We‘re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends” or “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun” when talking about fellow Americans. Things like this are not what a president or any other leader of our country should say. It’s wrong and people know it. They shouldn’t be demeaned or demonized for saying it is wrong.
No one is saying slavery or treating a human as 3/5 was right. It was nothing more than a political means to end to permanently end slavery, and it worked. To characterize it as anything more is simply dishonest and divisive. Remember, it was the anti-slavery Republicans who proposed this measure. If they hadn’t, the pro-slavery Southern Democrats would have continued the vile and reprehensible act of slavery for much longer and more humans would have been brutalized and victimized.
In response to you saying “As far as your other points, they have far more to do with your personal opinion than they do with any actual historical inaccuracies”. While some of it was my opinion, and I stated such, I still provided accurate evidence to support my arguments.
I said “The influence of which is seen in many of our founding documents, laws and traditions”. If you asked someone what year it is, they’ll say 2011. That is based on the birth of Christ. Yet, despite the majority not being Christian, the whole world recognizes that. Christmas is a federally recognized Christian holiday. Our national motto is “In God We Trust”. It’s not “E Pluribus Unum” as the POTUS wrongly stated while speaking in Jakarta, Indonesia. We swear in our president on a bible. President Obama was sworn in on the bible belonging to a Republican president, Abraham Lincoln. Congress used to routinely be open with prayer. The creator is mentioned in our Declaration of Independence. Most people in the US still acknowledge God as our creator. Congress established the National Day of Prayer. According to John Adams: “The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity”. Jefferson wrote, “I am a Christian in the only sense in which He wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to His doctrines in preference to all others. … I am a real Christian — that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ.” Benjamin Franklin wrote, “As to Jesus of Nazareth … I think the system of morals and His religion as He left them to us, the best the world ever saw or is likely to see.” George Washington wrote in 1777, “Being the day set apart by the Honorable Congress for public Thanksgiving and Praise; and duty calling us devoutly to express our grateful acknowledgements to God for the manifold blessings he has granted us, the General … earnestly exhorts, all officers and soldiers, whose absence is not indispensably necessary, to attend with reverence the solemnities of the day.” James Madison followed this tradition, but wrote, “I was always careful to make the Proclamations absolutely indiscriminate, and merely recommendatory; or rather mere designations of a day, on which all who thought proper might unite in consecrating it to religious purposes, according to their own faith & forms. In this sense, I presume you reserve to the Govt. a right to appoint particular days for religious worship throughout the State, without any penal sanction enforcing the worship.”
Our Founders were greatly and rightly suspect of any encroachment by government upon religious freedom, and codified that proscription in Amendment I of our Bill of Rights: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…”
Need you any more examples? There are plenty more.
I also said “Yes, most of the founders were indeed lawyers. Unlike the lawyers of today, they used their knowledge and education to create system of government to preserve the rights of citizens.”
Did they not create our founding documents? The ones we still use today. The very documents which grant you the freedoms to say what you say here without fear of being arrested and imprisoned like you might if you lived in China, North Korea, Venezuela, and many other countries. Even in the United States under a Democratic President, Woodrow Wilson. Or imprisoned because of your country of origin, like another Democratic President, Franklin Roosevelt. Or forced to move off your land, despite a ruling by the Supreme Court, and forced down the “trail of tears” by another Democratic President, Jackson. Now were being told, by yet another Democratic President, that we have to buy insurance from a private company just to exist in the Untied States or face fines? None of this is constitutional and is unconscionable.
I choose to keep our founding documents, especially Bill of Rights, as is. It is non-negotiable! I’m not stupid or uneducated for saying such and neither are the people who agree with me.
Stop the hate speech, Bill Maher, stop the hate!
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 9:08amMy Sacred Honor,
Wow. I thought from your eagerness to join the conversation that you might actually have something to say. Instead you parrot the same bunch of silly overgeneralizations that usually make up the Tea Party’s sad lack of history. If the Founding Father’s ALL wanted slavery to end through lack of votes, why did they compromise in the first place? The problem was, there were crafty lawyers on both sides looking out for their interests.
Jefferson, good choice. He actually did think that most of the Bible was completely superfluous, which is why he tried to write his own version: The Jefferson Bible. In his book, he cuts out all the supernatural stuff and the religious dogma in order to present exclusives the ethical/philosophical teachings of Jesus.
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 9:10amBill Maher is a powder keg.
Report Post »I hope his friends (if he has any ) will baker-act him and demand the mental health authorities in the state of Ca. find him the help he needs.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 9:13amAnd on the subject of the Jefferson Bible: If the President of the United States cut out a small portion of the words of the New Testament, pasted them in a notebook, and said: “these are the parts I believe,” how do you think the Tea Party would react?
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 10:30amTexasCommonsense,
I really don’t know what you were attempting to prove with that post, but I appreciate that you took the time to respond, so I will also respond.
“No one is saying slavery or treating a human as 3/5 was right. It was nothing more than a political means to end to permanently end slavery, and it worked. To characterize it as anything more is simply dishonest and divisive. Remember, it was the anti-slavery Republicans who proposed this measure. If they hadn’t, the pro-slavery Southern Democrats would have continued the vile and reprehensible act of slavery for much longer and more humans would have been brutalized and victimized.”
Hhhhhhold up here. First of all, there were NO Democracts or Republicans in 1787 when the compromise was agreed upon. There were not even Federalists and Democratic-Republicans yet! If you want to be concerned with historical accuracy, this is a really obvious point. And you accuse me of being divisive! Secondly, your logic is still off–the 3/5ths Compromise still gave the South a disproportionate amount of representation, which hampered any attempt to legislate against slavery and allowed the passage of the Fugitive Slave Act, which was quite a step backwards. Not until this representative was rendered moot by the Civil War was anyone actually able to legislate against slavery, so your assertion that “it worked” is a bit puzzling to me.
Secondly, our National Motto is “In God We Trust,” but it did not become so until the Cold War hysteria of the 1950s (more than 160 years after the Constitution was written, for those of you playing the jhome game). It did appear on money, but only from 1860 onward (more than 70 years after the Constitution was written). I think it is safe to say that the institutionalization of this phrase had nothing at all to do with the Founders, so stop implying that they wrote it.
Certainly many Founders practiced some form of religion; no one is disputing that. By the way, in the Ben Franklin you quoted, you left out an important part:
“As to Jesus of Nazareth, my Opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the System of Morals and his Religion as he left them to us, the best the World ever saw, or is likely to see; but I apprehend it has received various corrupting Changes, and I have with most of the present Dissenters in England, SOME DOUBTS AS TO HIS DIVINITY” (emphasis mine)
Good thing he wasn’t trying to run for office! There go the Tea Party votes!
This a common Tea Party tactic. Cut and paste two or three quotations (usually mined by that fraud David Barton) completely out of context to somehow miraculously prove an incredibly broad and silly point. Let me repeat this point so that it is clear: no one is saying that the Founding Fathers were anti-religious. Not even Maher says this. The point is that the form of worship of many of the most prominent Founders was often deistic and philosophical, and completely different from the fundamentalist Bible-thumping that somehow gets projecting onto them by the Tea Party, which seems to have absolutely no respect for historical accuracy when it doesn’t fit a specific narrative.
According to the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli, signed by President Adams and unanimously ratified by the Senate:
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jgeezy
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 10:58amBill Maher has it right, the founders would have loved big government? Where does he come up with this garbage? This is not being practical
http://practicalpolitician.wordpress.com/
Report Post »ATexasFan
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 11:13amIs he on TV or radio? I have never hear him. He sounds so “fair and balanced” doesn’t he? LOL
Report Post »VegasGuy
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 11:45amThere are none so ignorant as those who believe they are intellectually brilliant.
Report Post »beckisnuts
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 1:52pmBill Maher has every right to express himself. At least he’s not as delusional and manipulating as the crook Glenn Beck. Glenn yells lies and delusional rants into the microphone for three hours every day and you Becklers lap it up like feeble-minded sheep. Bill Maher will be around long after Glenneth is gone. Face it. Glenn can’t hold a candle to the man in an intellectual arena.
Report Post »getalong
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 2:16pmOnce again, we have a stupid-ass America-hating idiot who seems to have no problem living the life of those so-called big bad rich people. Wonder if he has ever really worked a day in his life. Time to move to France, Billy.
Report Post »WTH
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 3:12pmWhat a smug a**hole. He thinks he is so clever and witty and doesn’t understand why people do not laugh at his feeble attempts at comedy. It takes a much smarter person than this hack to be a funny political comedian. Now if only The Blaze would quit giving this clown space on their site to report what says his viewership would be cut in half and maybe just fade away.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 3:13pmBeckisnuts, I’d much rather be a sheep than a feeble-minded goat such as you. Pencilperson, your feeble grasp of history sucks worse than your feeble attempts to insult me.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 3:23pmpublicpencil, you say “In his book, he cuts out all the supernatural stuff and the religious dogma in order to present exclusives the ethical/philosophical teachings of Jesus.” What a honkin bunch of crap you spew.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 3:39pmSo you are denying that the Jefferson Bible existed?
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 3:45pmNo tool, I‘m saying you don’t know crap about it.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 4:07pmAnd what exactly do you know about it?
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 4:20pmLet me help you out.
As Jefferson said of his own project: “I have performed the operation for my own use by cutting verse by verse out of the printed book, and arranging the matter, which is evidently his and which is as easily distinguished as diamonds in a dunghill.”
So yes, you can attack Maher for his a assumption that the Founders thought most of the Bible was BS–Jefferson does not actually specify what kind of dung it is.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 4:42pmNow tell me something I didn’t already know.
Report Post »akim
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 6:03pmTHIS IS HATE SPEECH.
How is it allowed on the air after what has happened. Isn’t any Blood Libelist going to force Maher to be civil?
Report Post »Jane Agnor
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 6:46pmIgnore him and he’ll go away. By ignoring him you’ll make him irrelevant.
Report Post »Lamarr01
Posted on January 17, 2011 at 12:36am“Hate your guts” Would this be considered vitriolic speach. Thomas Jefferson grew marijuana in his garden at Monticello to make rope. Bill Maher must smoke a few joints before he goes on the air. His mouth is an open sewer spewing hate and anger. Just cancel your subscription to HBO and let Maher smoke his dope in obscurity.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 17, 2011 at 9:11amPubliusPencilman, what I’m trying to prove is Maher was wrong in saying what he said. It is completely indefensible, except by you, apparently.
You’re right, prior to the nomination of Abraham Lincoln, there was no republican party. The Republican Party was formed to oppose slavery. And the Democratic-Republicans, who later became the Democratic Party, were his opposition.
I offered many examples to support my saying “True, some of the founders were anti-established religion, but that didn‘t mean they didn’t believe in God or a creator. The influence of which is seen in many of our founding documents, laws and traditions.” You did offer a sufficient rebuttal to convince me otherwise.
I would at least like for you to concede, and agree to my basic premise. That being that Bill Maher’s elitist, condescending attitude and comments help no one, and only cause further abhorrence and divisiveness.
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