‘Bird-Brained’ Hypocrisy: Oil Companies Prosecuted for 28 Dead Waterfowl While Wind Companies Get Away with Offing 400,000+ Every Year
- Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:06pm by
Dave Urbanski
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Dan Lebbin, ABC
The Wall Street Journal knows it, opining yesterday that the prosecutions are “bird-brained,” especially when wind-power outfits routinely beat the rap:
The companies have pleaded not guilty, though they are not unamazed. They say they’re not responsible for the bird deaths and that, even if they were, the deaths were “incidental” to lawful commercial activity in full compliance with all environmental laws.
Law enforcement officials we talked to in North Dakota say they can’t remember such a case ever going to court. One local commentator calls it “the most absurd legal action taken by the government in the history of North Dakota.” One of the charged oil companies “even went to U.S. Fish and Wildlife and self-reported a number of birds, asking what else they could do soon after they had found the dead birds,” reports the Plains Daily, North Dakota’s statewide newspaper.
U.S. Attorney Timothy Purdon is nonetheless undaunted as he pursues the cause of ornithological justice.
Absurdity aside, this prosecution is all the more remarkable because the wind industry each year kills not 28 birds, or even a few hundred, but some 440,000, according to estimates by the American Bird Conservancy based on Fish and Wildlife Service data. Guess how many legal actions the Obama Administration has brought against wind turbine operators under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act? As far as we can tell, it’s zero.
“It is perplexing that similar prosecutions have yet to be brought against the operators of wind farms,” said American Bird Conservancy President George Fenwick. “Every year wind turbines kill hundreds of thousands of birds, including eagles, hawks, and songbirds, but the operators are being allowed to get away with it. It looks like a double standard.”
The Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) estimated in 2009 that about 440,000 birds were being killed by wind turbines, the ABC reports. With an anticipated twelve-fold wind energy build-out by the year 2030, bird mortality is expected to dramatically increase in the coming years, absent significant changes in the way wind farms are sited and operated. Based on studies, one wind farm in California is estimated to have killed more than 2,000 eagles, plus thousands of other birds, yet no prosecution has been initiated for violations of federal laws protecting birds.
Kevin Cramer, North Dakota’s public service commissioner, expressed concern about an apparent presumption of guilt that motivated the U.S. Wildlife Department’s 45-day helicopter search for dead birds in North Dakota’s oil fields, according to the Plains Daily.
“That’s chilling to me in a free society,” Cramer noted on a Bismark, N.D. radio show. “I’m certainly concerned this was a high priority for the government.”
Cramer agreed with the WSJ editorial board’s analysis, saying “when you selectively prosecute this way, it’s the worst injustice and the grossest form of discrimination in a free society that you can ever have.”
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Comments (228)
Miami
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:58pmPeople, people, this is a good thing.
All the Big OIL has to do is raise the stuidy of thje 400.000 dead birds under an equal justice claim the charges will be dropped or if we are lucky they will go forward and we can demand the White House, GE and all other greenites be prosecuted under the same charge….!
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 11:20amThey should also prosecute the wind turbines for the thousands and thousands of BATS killed every year by their anti-enviromental green power.
Report Post »toto
Posted on October 3, 2011 at 9:10pmThe problem is the main stream media will not get this information out to the public. Perhaps there needs to be a fact based web that shows the the unfairness and absurdity of the Obama administration’s upholding of the law practically in everything they touch. On equal protection grounds, lawyers should be able to rip them apart, where are they?
Report Post »TxMadMac
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:58pmWhen there is common sense in the world these things would never happen. Let us pray that we can restore it in 2012 !
Report Post »Miami
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:00pmAll the “ Big OIL” has to do is raise the stuidy of thje 400.000 dead birds under an equal justice claim the charges will be dropped or if we are lucky they will go forward and we can demand the White House, GE and all other greenites be prosecuted under the same charge….!
This is a good thing in the long run
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:24pmAll lies and hipocracies to be exposed in the last days. This way no one will have an excuse to why they believe the lies they’ve been told.
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:35pmCome on folks! This is like night and day. Evil oil companies aren’t green and Duhh – wind turbines are. So the wind turbine can’t help it if the birds are blind and dumb. The oil companies can put screens over the pits – just charge an extra couple of buck a gallon.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:45pmMaybe if the Oil Companies changed the color of oil from black to green they would be left alone?
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:59pmI know how to end this… play the race card. Windmills are white and oil is black. Are they prosecuting black things that kill and letting the white things that kill off the hook?
Report Post »Truthbeliever2
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 5:00pm@ MIAMI
That sounds good that there actually is an avenue to fight this BS…
But it all seems for naught if the settlement or punishment is paid out with your own tax dollars.
That is how the wind power was created in the first place with our tax money. So in essence we would be sewing ourselves. That is how I see it anyway…
What a pickle…
Report Post »jzs
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 5:16pmSomebody is going to have to find a link to the claim that the Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) says “+400,000″, because as far as I can tell, that number was totally made up. Here is an FWS article that mentions 40,000, not 400,000 birds kilded per year by turbines:
http://www.fws.gov/midwest/wind/references/ManvilleBirdMortality.pdf
So I challenge somebody to find the FWS link. Otherwise, I think it’s false and off by a factor of ten. In any case, how does that compare to other causes of avian death?
Building strikes – 100 million deaths a year
Communication tower strikes – 5 million a year
Car strikes – 60 million
Cats – 39 million
And so on, all according to the FWS. http://www.fws.gov/birds/mortality-fact-sheet.pdf
This is what is know as a false equivalency, and failure to check facts.
Report Post »RIGEL_ORION
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 5:31pmFalse equivalency. A bit like blaming hot, cold, wet, dry, windy, calm, hurricanes, no hurricanes, rain, snow, drought all on the same thing using 50 years of data from a planet billions of years old. And to boot, a planet whose climate has continually changed from hot to cold and back again, long before man and his infinite hubris built his first fire.
Report Post »Van Bones
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 5:37pmHow many chickens are killed to fill Moochelles doublewide rump.
Report Post »TEIN
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 6:13pmJZS…since you seem to be ahead of the curve, the number given was from ABC (American Bird Conservancy )….the 40,000 birds mentioned lead to a dead link, but below is the link to ABC…maybe you should fact check your fact check…
Report Post »http://www.abcbirds.org/abcprograms/policy/collisions/wind_farms.html
jzs
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:10pmHi Tein. I don’t see your “dead link” to the FWS but thanks for the link to abcbirds (where is that dead link by the way). If you google, you can find lots of people making claim that’s what the FWS estimated. What I can’t find is the statement from the FWS with the 400,000 figure. I found one paper that gave a figure of 40,000 (which frankly I think is the source) and another that said 33,000 (both links are in my post).
So, yes, lot‘s of people say that’s what FWS estimated the number of bird deaths to be. But as far as I can tell, they never said it. They did and do, on the other hand. make two other estimates that I found, both 1/10 or less of what is quoted. So who you going to believe, the FWS, or what somebody said they said?
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:29pmWind good, oil bad … unless you‘re on a first date and it wasn’t silent. What would they do if it had happened during hunting season?
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:02pm@JZS, The only thing consistent with you liberal whackos is your inconsistency. “if one innocent bird is killed we are all…” 40,000 or 400,000 so your outrage is simply a matter of degrees? But let not one innocent caribou die in ANWAR. Have you clowns ever considered how much energy is wasted mining the minerals, smelting the steel, producing and then delivering and installing these insipid bird killing behemoths? Not to mention the amount of fuel consumed during frequent required maintenance.
Oh yes the hypocritical inconsistent liberal mind. Pro abortion, pro gay. Really? What will you do if science comes up with a test to determine if a child is pre-disposed to being gay while in the womb, can a straight couple have it aborted?
Report Post »Rightsofman
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:24pmLiberal ideology will always trump common sense while they have power.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:24pmBirds killed by big oil are obviously more DEAD than those killed by green energy!!!
Report Post »jzs
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:28pmOokspay, chill out man, we’re all just having a friendly disagreement here. Exchanging opinions.
From your post: ANWAR, caribou, gays, abortion, innocent birds, mining of minerals, bird killing behemoths, fuel consumed, clowns. You are all over the map on your opinions, seemingly both for and against the same things.
I’m not “against you.” We’re just talking here, exchanging ideas. If you‘d like to pick a single topic I’d be happy to give you my opinion.
It‘s hard to start an adult conversation if two people can’t come to some general agreement about what the facts are.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 12:50am40,000 to 23……doesn’t change a thing with the injustice. Is that what’s called a diversion? Not a very good one.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 1:47amGovernment is trying to shut down oil companies. Or control them like they were arms of the government. As we all know, they put the strong arm on Tobacco pretty good.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 2:01amnot to mention bats… bats are getting slaughtered by wind turbines..
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 2:13amanyone ever see how much copper wire wind turbines use to link them all together.. it’s insane.. we are wasting our materials on low efficiency energy systems…
anyone ever think about this… there is around 304 million people in the US… they wasted 528 on that solynda bankruptcy.. they could have gave every man, woman and child 1 million dollars a piece. plus extra… then there is that other 700+ million dollar green energy scam which is another 2 million a piece… why not just give us 3 million a piece, if you truly wanted to stimulate the economy… and we are going to have to pay it back anyway… we could have spent it better than that…
Report Post »Cynic-clinic
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:50am@JB.KIBS: Don’t wait for your millions from the Solyndra scam–The 528 million bucks divided between our 304 million people would only get everyone a check for $1.74 each. Maybe you got up too early.
Report Post »Quiata
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 9:11am@JZS Using the numbers you provided:
“Building strikes – 100 million deaths a year
Communication tower strikes – 5 million a year
Car strikes – 60 million
Cats – 39 million”
Wind turbines – 40,000 (thousand)
Oil obtainment – 28 (single)
Care to do comparative analysis? Even if off by an order of magnitude, you still fail to see the hypocrisy.
Report Post »Quiata
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 9:14amP.S. This article fails to mention the vast number of bats killed by wind turbines annually.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 10:16am@JZS, I am certainly not all over the map. I am making ONE point, Liberals are hypocritical liars, always! My example of it using gays/and abortion is pure brilliance.
In your response, you have stated “Ookspay, chill out man, we’re all just having a friendly disagreement here. Exchanging opinions.” First of all, your posts are seldom “friendly” and I am not interested in your bogus opinions. “100 million birds killed by buildings”? LMFAO! More lie…
Furthermore, liberals like you will skew data and out and out lie when it comes to global warming and EVERY other subject that is discussed. You destroyers of America and freedom must be defeated at every turn. When it comes to liberal/progressives I am a bigot, I despise ALL of you Godless rat ba$tards!
Report Post »Xyskalla
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 10:42amThis isn’t a lack of common sense. This is something called “agenda”.
Report Post »Cat
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 11:36amGovernment Logic:
Raise the price of oil, anyway possible, so it will be so pricey no one can afford it, forcing consumers to use alternative energy sources.
Select a new religion, pass laws to enforce the new religion, and fine those who don’t believe in the new religion.
Set up energy companies, use tax dollars to fund them, unionizes them and collect dues to pay for future election campaigns.
Prepare for a crises and build interment camps and casket liners, engage the crises, then bury the unfortunate who didn’t believe there was a crises.
Well?
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 11:41amtypical, when someone points out the flaws in jzs or other liberal ‘arguments’ they turn to non-arguments – like ” you’re a racist” or, in this case, “chill out man”.
Even if it is only 40, or 400, or 4,000, or 40,000…
Report Post »The point of it remains – attacking the oil industry for 28 birds while ignoring the birds killed by wind turbines or other causes is sheer hypocrisy.
MIBUGNU2
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 12:50pm“GREEN” Is an EYESORE…
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 1:27pmSo the point of your post is that you hate me and all liberals. Since I imagine that’s true, I guess I can’t argue the point. I don’t hate you. But I DO hope you have a nice day.
Report Post »Leader1776
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 2:00pm@JZS
So if we are to believe your sources (and that is not a given) the oil companies are the least offensive and should not have have charged either ………… correct?
BTW here in our state (not CA) a local paper ran a story that the turbines were killing birds at such an alarming rate the company voluntarily reduced the amount of operating hours per day. J, you don’t need gov reports as your only source.
But once again you miss the whole point of the story.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 9:11amthat’s what you get when commies run the country.
Report Post »NealPatrick
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:56pmPresident Obama appointed North Dakota lawyer Timothy Purdon as US Attorney and chief federal prosecutor for the state of North Dakota in February, 2010. Just prior to his appointment, Purdon was a prominent fundraiser for the Democratic Party, the ND party’s state committeeman, as well as the state chairman for John Edwards’ presidential campaign. FEC records show that Purdon donated $12,400 to Obama, Conrad, Dorgan, Pomeroy and others.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:14pmCrony socialism… “When I am King they will be first against the wall.”
Report Post »DanWesson455
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 8:37amOf course it is lopsided. Bunny Huggers can only see what is necessary for a Bunny Hugger Agenda. We can forget 400,000 dead birds for they died at the hands of clean energy. Bur one dead bird or one dead snail darter fish and holy smokes…it is the end of times. I should not hate but these DIP WADS make it so hard not to. Help me with my feelings lord.
Report Post »smartgirl
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:56pm440,000K birds killed by wind turbines in ONE YEAR. Why isn’t the Sierra club concerned? What is their real agenda if this isn’t their cause?
Report Post »mils
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:10pmYour question is of course rhetorical..
These facts need to be brought to the light of day!!!….if o’reilley, who i have little use for his arrogance these days… it would be brought to th’s attention
Report Post »otherwise …we right here, are the only ones that will know of it…and be concerned
Viet Vet
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 12:52amIt’s all about the furtherance of leftism and eventually World Government. All of these things are simply vehicles the left uses to get there.
Report Post »foobear
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 5:11amThe Sierra Club has been in the business of suing solar plants… that don’t use Union Labor.
Even the NY Times has reported on this…
Report Post »http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/19/business/energy-environment/19unions.html
MIBUGNU2
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 1:02pmThe Sierra Club, doesn’t have the balls to upset King Obama..
Report Post »and his Green Bullshi**…seems 2000 Eagles killed in CA
would raise a Red Flag.. If you kill one eagle in AZ your looking
Thousands $$$$ in fines and jail time, doesn’t make sense to
Me…
joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:55pmobama and his merry band of fascist thugs want us all freezing in our cold dark houses….
Report Post »goatrope67
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:11pmActually the American Bird Conservatory began working with the US Geological Survey in 2007 looking at things like this. Which means that it start under the Bush presidency.
Report Post »woodyb
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:29pmHey, goatrope — the argument isn’t over the law itself, it is over the targeting of the oil companies and giving wind turbines a :Get Out Of Jail Free” card!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »RIGEL_ORION
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 5:13pm@Goat
The initial policy began under Bush. Well I guess that puts everyone in their place. What an argument winner!! In fact, on inauguration day 2013, I’m going to lobby to have you murdered via drone for being a terrorist. There won‘t need to be any trial and I’m sure it won’t bother you because it began under Obama.
Report Post »babylonvi
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 5:15pm@Goatboy, that may be true, belying the claims that Republicans do nothing about the environment, but they DO have the common sense to understand what constitutes a criminal offense. Now, if these waterfowl were dark, signifying they were “Birds of Color” and the turbines were killing mostly light colored or white birds, THEN I could understand t\why this Justice(sic.) Department was exercising selective prosecution.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 12:59amRight Babylon…..goatrope67 inadvertently points out the pro-environmentalism of the Bush administration. LOL..leftists are so used to blindly blaming everything on Bush, they step in their own crap to do it. This is also how they blindly follow Marx and Engels. (or if you prefer Alinsky, Chomsky and Zinn)
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 1:06pm@ goatrope67
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:11pm
Actually the American Bird Conservatory began working with the US Geological Survey in 2007 looking at things like this. Which means that it start under the Bush presidency.
But I see it has gotten all better with the Obama Administration..HUH ??
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:51pmWhat about all the bats that die due to wind farms
Report Post »These things are an ecological nightmare, less bats more bugs, less crops
Do you hear any screaming from these two faced tree huggers?
The answer is no
HKS
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:02pmProsecute all tree huggers for crimes against ecology and the eagles haven’t been mentioned yet. OK Holder since you can’t handle anything else this is a no brainer even you could win.
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 1:15pmNothing but silence, from the Tree Hugging Liberal Parasites.
Report Post »Hypocrisy at it’s best !! Don’t want to upset BO and MO…..
jakartaman
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:48pmLiberal lunacy! It knows no bounds and left unchecked will spread to our young and weak minded citizens
Report Post »goatrope67
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:12pmOne of the biggest rally cries for conservation came from a Republican. Theodore Roosevelt.
Report Post »drago
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:21pm@Goat
Report Post »He was also leader of the progressive party (bull moose) sadly….
yougottabekidding
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:55pmGOATROPE67
Report Post »Conservation not stupidity
Migratory birds protection- geese there are
So many geese they don’t migrate anymore they
Stay around crap al over the place and bring
down aircraft
Or the minnow that laid waste to thousands of
Acres of some of the most fertile farm land
Viet Vet
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 1:06amThere is a huge difference between conservation (which conservatives naturally support), and environmentalism (which is supported by people who are emotional basket cases). Conservation is science based, environmentalism is emotionally/hysteria based.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 1:10am@drago
Don’t ever associate the “progressivism” of TR (a term he didn’t use btw), with the progressivism which is communism. Communism/Progressivism didn’t come into vogue until at least Wilson and primarily FDR.
Report Post »Sy Kosys
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:47pmBecause birds fell victim to the flower-power of green energy, all is well with the world. But GOD FORBID those poor creatures get murdered at the byproducts of those evil oil sonzabiatches…..
Derrrr
Report Post »goatrope67
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:13pmYep, there’s a huge difference between being killed by a turbine that is moving through the air and landing in a pit of oil that is the waste from an oil rig.
Report Post »Sy Kosys
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:54pmDoofus
and that “huge difference” is approximately 399,972 avian deaths, arrtarrd
I see you hit this thread 2 or 3 times, and not one of makes a lick of sense….howz that workin out for ya?
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:55pmYou are right, more get killed flying through the air, because there are more windmills than oil pits.
Report Post »RIGEL_ORION
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 5:17pm@Goat. Because turbines are naturally occurring phenomena? I didn’t realize that the moral equivalent of a few dozen birds dying in oil was bludgeoning a half a million to death with a turbine blade.
Report Post »RIGEL_ORION
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 5:26pm@Anonymous,
Thanks for the laugh. Imagine that. More birds getting killed because of something flying through the air. Who would have guessed that something in the ‘air’ could be more hazardous to a creature that spends so much time there. LmAo. Trying to make a point about oil being more dangerous and not even considering what birds do…priceless.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 1:19amI think the difference in numbers was completely lost on Goatrope.
Report Post »retiredlogger
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:45pmThe spotted owl moved into the RE prod instead of the old growth forest. But it didn’t matter to the environmentalists, they have almost destroyed the logging industry. They would much rather see it burn up. The wind turbines can kill over 400,000 birds in a year, but the environmentalists see no problem with that. Environmentalists need to get their priorities straight instead of pushing their stupid agendas. But pigs will fly before they wise up.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 1:16amAbsolutely correct logger….the spotted owl was just a vehicle to get logging stopped. Now since there are no loggers illiminating all that undergrowth, in the process of logging, the forests are a tinderbox.
Report Post »tothestars2
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 10:51ama little over 30 million pigs are slaughtered in the US annually, and they never get off the ground.
Report Post »ustabhip
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 7:46pmAnd those pigs will crash right into those wind turbines LOL!!!
Report Post »Impeach-BO
Posted on October 2, 2011 at 4:54pmIf only pigs COULD fly…we could get rid of the nasty eye-sore wind turbines one flying pig at a time AND have pork chops for dinner. Looks like a win-win to me. :-)
Report Post »JJW
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:40pmWhy are we suprised of the idoicy of this administration.
Report Post »elosogrande
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:39pmThe oil companies are just stupid. Don’t they know enough to contribute to Democrat Congressmen and The President? Big oil needs to fire their PR directors and open up those wallets.
By the way, have wind farms really killed 2000 eages? DDT didn’t do that to eagles, yet Congress took it off the market. Over 45 million people have died throughout the world from insect born diseases, because there was no replacement for DDT when they banned it, and there still isn’t. (Cut the crap with the mosquito netting.)
Let see – Congress fines the oil companies big time for killing 28 ducks. Congress and The Sierra Club are directly responsible for killing 45 million human beings by banning DDT, and it’s not a problem – no fines necessary. Do you know why? It’s because DDT was taken off of the market by liberal politicians and liberal organizations like The Sierra Club. The people that died from Malaria were, for the most part, black, brown and yellow – NOT A BIG PROBLEM FOR LIBERALS IF THEY CAN’T VOTE HERE.
Report Post »RIGEL_ORION
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 5:47pmI think you’ve touched on some real racism there. Not the politically pandered stuff we typically see on the news here.
Atrocities in Africa are basically ignored. Use DDT to save millions? Nope. They apparently aren’t the right lives.
Mix in the fact that a lot of these Thomas Malthus loving, eugenics embracing, and now earth hugging believers don’t mind a little human death. There’s too many of us anyway.
If able to remain anonymous, what do you think they’d choose to save – a human life or an owls?
Report Post »the wireworker
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:17pmElosogrande,
Report Post »You’re speaking some truth there!
liberal policies come from “feelings” as long as it feels good and they can “feel and show like they care” no matter the outcome of their policies which is usually epic fail!
Viet Vet
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 1:27amRachel Carson’s book “Silent Spring” was the impetus for banning DDT. The scientist who orginally signed on, later, after further investigation, found that DDT wasn’t dangerous to humans. He then began to give speeches and demonstrations, where he would eat a spoonful of DDT. He lived into his 80′s and was killed in a mountain climbing accident.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:37pmDefinitely hypocritical. Shames on the administration; I believe the should repeal these laws or set specific conditions (X number of birds, etc).
Report Post »rabornmd
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:36pmRegulations are set and employed to reward your friends and punish your enemies!
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 1:36pmHopefully some of these people will see jail time when
Report Post »This parasite administration is ousted.. They have done
nothing but line their pockets.
Popp40
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:32pmIsn’t North Dakota creating a lot of jobs, especially in the oil industry…….wonder if there is any connection with this?!?!?
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 1:29amGood point, Obummer is all about killing jobs. Throw in his interview in 2007 or 2008, with the San Fancisco Chronicle where he said his aim was to bankrupt the Oil and Coal industries.
Report Post »motherof18
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:29pmI have a friend who works on a hunting ranch where rich dipwads go to hunt. He says that a couple of rich hunters will usually kill THOUSANDS of birds in a single day. It’s perfectly legal, it’s a private hunting ranch
Report Post »sof32
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:38pmIs this private ranch outside the US (i.e. Argentina)? I‘m not aware of any state that doesn’t have a daily limit for birds nor am I aware of any Ranch in the US that would see THOUSANDS of game birds on their property every day. Just because you own the land doesn’t mean you can ignore the state game laws. What state is this private ranch in?
Report Post »M13
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:43pmThats silly and your a gullibe sap.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:44pmI have hunted at private hunting clubs in Utah and Minnesota. You have to have a license. BUT you can buy as many birds as you want. The price/bird was $10 in the late 80′s-early 90′s when I hunted. I usually hunted with 4 others and we chipped in for 25 birds. About 5 would fly off and not shot.
I never saw any single hunter buy large numbers of birds. I have never been to a uberrich game farm.
Report Post »Truthbeliever2
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 5:13pm@ MOTHEROF18
Bwa HAHAHAH!
THOSE POOR 18…
Report Post »RIGEL_ORION
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 5:57pmAre you sure it wasn‘t a friend of the mother of your uncle’s 2nd cousin who heard it from their hairdresser’s daughter?
How many of you out there shoot skeet or trap? When was the last time you shot 1,000 clay pigeons in a day? Motherof18, try and make your ‘hunters, especially rich ones, are evil’ propaganda a little more believable next time.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 1:33amIt would be impossible to kill thousands of birds in a single day, even if the hunting farm/club had that many to shoot.
Report Post »el thinko
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 2:51pmMother of 18 what?
Report Post »miketheartist
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:26pmMore of the “Do as I say, not as I do” mentality from the left…He told us going in that fossil fuel (read: productive) energy providers would regret the business they’re in.
http://www.BootToTheHeadStudios.com
Report Post »mamagriz79
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:25pmI am from North Dakota and worse then the lawsuit in the first place, is that they don’t even have to prove the birds died because of drilling. They literally flew around for 45 days until they found 28 dead birds and called it a crime. This sickens me to no end.
Report Post »michael48
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:19pmjust be glad you didn’t kill them with a Gibson guitar…he!! you’d be in GITMO DEATH ROW…with atty. Liberal Holder standing guard…(D)= Dangerous…take these SOBs out…however.!!!!!!
Report Post »antisocial21
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:16pmJust goes to show that liberals don’t give a damn about the environment…
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:22pmThey love the environment…they make trillions in the name of protecting it.+
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 5:03pmThey love the WORD “environment” and all the money they make USING the word “environment,” otherwise, they couldn’t care less.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:14pmWhat about the airlines and all the cat owners? Next time, just bury and keep your mouth shut.
Report Post »biggreenboo
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:28pmMoved to a new house… Have to keep my cats inside now. My old house (farm) had a “Zone of Death” around it… No birds, no squirrels, no snakes… even saw one cat jump on a deer (AWESOME)
Report Post »I wish I could get them to chase libs… I would let them back out again.
Have a good weekend.
Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 5:00pmThat cat must have had some serious balls. Have a good one.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 1:46amI’ve had 3 to 4 cats for 34 years at this rural subdivision. They spend at least 75% of their time roaming outside, except during the winter months. They take birds from time to time, but not that I can tell the difference in the bird population. They’ll take a cottontail once in awhile. But they’re really hell on mice. And they keep the pocket gophers out of the yard. In fact they killed off the whole clan (I counted 26 that they took). The pocket gophers were in a field adjacent to my property and only two ever got into the lawn, and they didn’t last more than a day or two, before the cats got them. I haven’t had a pocket gopher now for around for 20 years (not even in the field). They’ve nailed two or three bushy tails over the years, but still have plenty of those.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:14pmLiberalism is a mental disorder. It cannot be treated, it just is.
Report Post »goatrope67
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:17pmAnd conservatives actually have medicine for their disorder…some day…some day.
Report Post »Sy Kosys
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:56pmLib-tarrds also suffer from rectal-cranial inversion disorder, as evidenced by goatboy here
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:14pmJust one more, in a list of thousands, reason to vote the real bird brains out of office next year…every last one of them down to the mayors of the smallest towns.
Report Post »Kinda wish we could toss them all into the wind turbine fields…
GENEPAGLIARI
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:20pmIt would be so deep in refuse that a 180 foot tower would cease to spin.
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:41pmGene,
Report Post »Maybe they could occasionally scoop out the refuse and recycle it.
That’s my idea of a perfect green job.
Gonzo
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:13pmSee? Obama IS creating jobs…for lawyers.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 1:51amThe Trial Lawyers Association, made up mostly of democraps, is the largest lobby in DC. And the National Lawyers Guild is a communist organization, not that the former is much less communist.
Report Post »rfycom
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:11pmIt is not ok to kill birds in forward looking technology experimentation? At least it is not going backward. Take a couple of drinks or a big toke and you will get this Sammy.
I feel a real big drunk coming on people!
Report Post »M13
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:46pmOnce again you show your complete stupidity .
Report Post »Stu D. Baker-Hawk
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 2:05pmUh, there is NO experimentation with wind power. The reality of wind power is it’s a what-you-see-is-what-you-get technology, and it will never get better. That means, as long as the blades are rotating and slicing through the air, the birds will be dying. (It just floors me how utterly stupid these ‘green’ folks are.)
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:11pmWell I guess it’s time to file lawsuits against wind turbines if the suit against the oil company wins there will already be case laws in place.
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