Black Africans Escalate Complaints of Harassment by Libya Rebels
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Editor’s note: An earlier Blaze post on thousands of black Africans being held prisoner by Libyan rebels can be found here.
TRIPOLI, Libya (AP) — A Ghanaian teacher cowers in his house, certain he will be grabbed at a checkpoint because of his dark skin. Armed rebels detain 19 Ukrainian cooks and oil workers for several days on unsupported claims that they are really snipers for Moammar Gadhafi.
They‘re among thousands of foreigners caught in a web of suspicion as rebel fighters pursue the remnants of Gadhafi’s forces. Gadhafi hired some foreigners as mercenaries, but many others held ordinary jobs in Libya, and the rebels who ousted the Gadhafi regime from most of Tripoli last month often seem to make little effort to tell them apart.
“How can we be snipers?” cook Maksim Shadrov asked angrily at a training center for oil workers in Tripoli where he, his wife and 17 other Ukrainians were being held.
“They are old. She is a woman. We are not snipers,” he said, pointing to some members of his group. Even a rebel commander conceded that he had no evidence to the contrary, but held them nonetheless, despite a diplomat’s efforts to free them.
In rebel-run Tripoli, people with dark skin — even Libyans — are at risk because Gadhafi is known to have recruited soldiers from sub-Saharan Africa.
“Every black is a target,” said Tony Biney, the Ghanaian teacher, who stayed home with his wife for two weeks before risking a trip to church.
There have been widespread arrests and frequent abuse of migrant workers since the rebels seized Tripoli late last month, Human Rights Watch said Sunday, but did not give an estimate of the number of detainees. The group said the clampdown created “a grave sense of fear among the city’s African population.”
A rebel official estimated that some 5,000 people have been detained since rebels seized Tripoli. At one makeshift detention camp, conditions for Libyan detainees were acceptable, but sub-Saharan Africans were held in overcrowded cells with a putrid stench, Human Rights Watch said. The detainees complained of a lack of water and poor sanitation.
The detentions have created an image problem for the rebel leadership, which relies heavily on Western support and has pledged to build a new Libya based on the rule of law, in contrast to Gadhafi’s brutal regime.
The harsh treatment could also cause problems for the rebels as they attempt to rebuild Libya’s economy, which has depended heavily on foreign workers to keep up with its oil boom. However, the draw of steady, well-paid employment may in the end be stronger than the fear of mistreatment.
Before the six-month civil war that brought down Gadhafi, hundreds of thousands of foreigners filled jobs Libyans didn‘t want or weren’t trained for, including in construction, oil and health services. Data is sketchy, but some estimates say at least 1.5 million foreigners worked in Libya, a country of just 6 million.
The workers are mainly Africans, Asians and Eastern Europeans, lured from economically depressed countries by Libya’s relatively high wages.
Hundreds of thousands of them fled Libya after the outbreak of fighting in February, many complaining at the time that they had not been paid or were robbed by Gadhafi troops on the way to the border. Others were either unable or unwilling to leave.
On Sunday, Human Rights Watch called on the rebels to stop arbitrary arrests and to set up a system to review cases of people alleged to be mercenaries. The New York-based group said it has evidence that the Gadhafi regime recruited hundreds of mercenaries from Chad, Sudan and other countries — but noted that cannot serve as the basis for mass arrests.
The rebel leadership “has legitimate concerns about unlawful mercenaries and violent activity, but it can’t simply arrest dark-skinned men just in case they think they might be mercenaries,” said Sarah Leah Whitson of Human Rights Watch.
The rebels’ National Transitional Council has called on fighters not to abuse prisoners and says those accused of crimes will receive fair trials.
In one sign of possible change, an official for the U.N.’s main refugee agency, Sam Cheung, said several dozen Somalis were released to his group Sunday.
“We are hoping this is a model, a first transaction,” Cheung said.
The Philippines sent a senior diplomat to give some 1,700 Filipino workers, mostly nurses, the option of leaving. A government official said four Filipino housemaids who worked for a Gadhafi relative will take the offer.
Some workers said they hadn’t been harassed by either side in the war. Others, including some of the Ukrainian detainees, planned to stay in Libya despite receiving rough treatment.
“As you know, life in the Ukraine is bad,” said Shadrov, the cook. “We came here to earn money for our family.”
The Ukrainians, hired by the Russian-Libyan oil company Dakara, arrived in Tripoli in July. After the rebels entered the capital on Aug. 21, the Ukrainians were detained by rebel fighters, handcuffed and moved to various locations, Shadrov said.
“They took everything from us,” he said. “Money, passports, computers, everything.”
Othman bin Othman, the rebel commander in charge of the oil workers’ training center, initially said the Ukrainians were armed and trained as snipers, but changed his account after reporters interviewed the detainees.
“To be very honest, we didn’t find any weapons in their houses or on them, but they arrived into the country illegally and during a very sensitive time — after the war,” he said. “This led us to believe they were working for the enemy.”
Diplomats from Russia and Ukraine visited the group, and Shadrov’s father, a Russian citizen, was able to leave.
At a meeting with the rebels, the Ukrainian consul was asked to bring back a written promise that if the Ukrainians are allowed to leave the detention center, they will stay in their homes and not leave the country without proper documentation.
Some of Gadhafi’s real mercenaries, meanwhile, have already left.
Mohamed, a migrant worker from Mali, said he came to Libya in 2007 and found work in restaurants and as a gardener.
Speaking in the Mali town of Bamako, he said he briefly joined a pro-Gadhafi militia after the outbreak of the uprising, and was sent to try to crush rebels in the port city of Misrata, a stronghold of the revolt. He said he stopped fighting after a couple of weeks and returned to Mali.
Mohamed did not give his last name because he said did not want anyone to know he fought for Gadhafi. He said he still has family in Libya and has not been able to get in touch with them for more than two weeks.
Biney, the Ghanaian teacher, and his wife, a housekeeper, said they will stay in Libya. They need the money.
They’re continuing to keep a low profile, but left their home Friday to make a quick dash to St. Francis Catholic Church in downtown Tripoli. They hired a driver for $90, a steep sum, they said, since they haven’t worked or been paid for six months.
They did it, Vida Biney said, to say a prayer of thanks for surviving the war.
“We are alive. We are grateful to God,” she said.
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politicaljules
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 10:12amWe should be asking about the situation as it relates to Louis Farrakhan, and Reverend White’s support of Gaddafi. Is this payback to the blacks overseas even though they were not involved? Do the Libyan rebels hate the black community in America too, and they are starting in their country first?
This is something that should worry all of us. I believe it is our duty to stand up for these people being rounded up and imprisoned, or even worse because of a perceived support of the dictator. Black White Christian or not, none of them deserve to be convicted of a crime unless they have actually committed a heinous crime.
If it comes to our shores, we should not let the Libyans round up Reverend White or even Louise Farrakhan. No matter how you feel about those two, it’s not right and we know it.
Report Post »robert
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:24pmPoliticaljules:
“If it comes to our shores, we should not let the Libyans round up Reverend White or even Louis Farrakhan. No matter how you feel about those two, it’s not right and we know it.”
You‘re assuming that Libyans are rounding up blacks even though they know they’re innocent, but the fact of the matter is that there were so many blacks involved in attacks on the Libyan rebels and civilians, during which many atrocities were committed, the only way the Libyans have of determining guilt or innocence is to interrogate each one. Many are war criminals. The rebels warned the black mercenaries they would be held accountable if they lost. They’re being held accountable now.
This is not a peacetime scenario and is common in every country after civil wars to determine who the enemies are. It’s not a policy that is invoked during peacetime. This is not the same as rounding up civilians during peacetime. The only means of identifying them is by their race.
Many Germans were rounded up after WWII by the allies and investigated and interrogated to determine any cupability for war crimes, because it wasn‘t known who was a Nazi and who wasn’t.
The only reason there’s an outcry in this instance is because the radical leftist press deems blacks as privileged persons.
If the perps were Arab or white, these same MSM radicals would be highlighting the atrocities they committed, not painting them as victims.
Report Post »TheWholeTruth
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:37pmThere is more to be afraid of since the “Rebels” are the very terrorists that the US is always saying we need to be careful of and if we aide them in any way we can be imprisoned. Go Figure. Yes my dear sheeple, the ‘Rebels’ are the LIFG which is lead by none other than the top Al Qaeda members who have also been in Iraq, Afghanistan and other areas shooting AMERICANS!
Our government is guilty of the very crimes they have themselves posted during the “War on Terror.” They themselves are breaking their own law in Libya. This isn’t anything new, look at Fast and Furious which the President (it is now KNOWN) approved it. Mexican armed troops are coming across our southern border and shooting at our Border Patrol and even civilians, but you don’t see anything about it here. I’m VERY disappointed in Glenn and the Blaze. Of course it might help if he didn’t have at least ONE of his writers here that is also a writer for HuffPo. My mind … it is a changin’. about Glenn. He says just enough to get the trust. He tells the truth only so far. It’s taken YEARS for me to come to this conclusion and I have him to thank for opening my eyes and telling me to “Do my Homework” I have and I’m not liking what I see in him now. It’s a shame. I was a loyal listener for a long LONG time. Sad.. very sad.
Report Post »ribenareema
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 10:12amhey everyone well im a libyan and i have went through all this first hand and libyans do not hate black africans we have libyans that are black and libya is an african country so they are apart of us and as you said it is conserning that they are being round up but you got to ask your self why ????? well libya has been in war for 6 months now and from the first month there were planes flying people out ships from the red cross and the boarders were never empty lot and lot of people left i leaves a suspsion when all this happend and people are getting killed every day and all these people refuse to leave ok let me tell you this a relative of mine the workers on his farms he found them in a gaddafi check point i mean i get why he really needs the money its probebly a hard life for him back home and to get another second well payung job its tempting but you got to understand some of these people helped gaddafi kill his owen people he even used them alegal emigration he forced people to get on ships and go to lampaduza i mean i got a viedo on that if you want to see and these poor peoples boat drown before it left shore and lots of people died and the people he got from chad and the chad army taken with out telling them or there family why they are going huh they didnt know because this is pay back for the huge amounts of money that was taken from gaddafi
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 9:57amThis could ALL have BEEN AVOIDED – if people had
RESPECTED NATIONAL BORDERS!!!
If those who entered the country ILLEGALLY had not done so, then, there would be no cause to worry about them. A desire for higher wages is not a legitimate reason to break the law and to trespass/invade a country illegally.
While I wish better for those who are not as well off as we are, breaking the law is not the correct means to go about improving one’s lot in life. Hard work is the primary means. A more significant means is hard work in the form of POLITICAL REFORMS / movements AT HOME. Such movements and reforms improve not only one’s own situation, but also that of ALL THOSE AROUND you.
TAKING the easy route is selfish and momentary, and does nothing to correct the ROOT CAUSE/ISSUE.
Who is John Gault?
Fleeing a situation, instead of FIXING it, is not the answer – it is AN answer, but, it does not resolve the problem – it AVOIDS the problem. It is a coward’s way out.
Report Post »Plus, a man who is willing to break the law once, has PROVEN his willingness to break the law. He now only needs self-justification to do it again and again. (“I was hungry” becomes, “It‘s only ’fair’” becomes, “They all had one” becomes, “Why not?” then, “So what?” and eventually, “Who cares?”)
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Race? That was just the most common denominator – the trait which most of the illegals had in common – simplest means of trying to identify a believed threat.
Not saying it is/was right or wrong.
Sicialian Eyeball
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 9:56amDo blacks think that the new muslim world order will include them? Blacks are so funny!
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 4:07pmBlacks did not think much in Libya, since most of them immigrants there. But what African American president and CIA thought when authorizing to spend our taxpayers money to support Al-Qaeda (Libyan rebels)? As usual – spreading our democracy, my foot!
Report Post »Gary Fishaholic
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 9:56amArab spring isn’t that great just what Obummer wanted right!
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 9:50amThis is to be expected. Foreign mercenaries who fought for the old regime are commonly targets for vicious reprisals by successful revolutionaries: hence the fate of Louis XVI’s Swiss guards, the Cossacks after the Russian Revolution, and so on. In the Libyan case, the element of racism is not surprising, as the mercenaries who fought for Qaddafi are mostly blacks from sub-Saharan Africa.
What surprises me about the Obama administration is not its failure to rein in the Libyan rebels, but its apparently total disregard of the famine raging in Somalia and the refugees overflowing camps in Kenya. After all, this, not Libya, is the part of Africa where Obama actually does have some roots.
Report Post »freeweever
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 9:36amWhere is the beer summit in the gardens of eden Obama? How do you like radical islam now? This is Eugenic genocide, a form of population control period. Save the resources and wain of the population to a numerous grave.
Report Post »Zonepuppy
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 9:08amAnyone checking to see if these are Chistian Africans?????? I bet the religion, not the skin color is the determining factor.
Report Post »NuffSaid
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 8:37amSo the Libyans aren’t racist. They just hate Blacks, both the Libyan rebels and loyalists. Wonder what the Blacks ever did to the Libyans?
Are you gonna put some boots on the ground to help these Black people, President Big Shot? You won’t because the rest of the Arab nations who also put blacks in camps will dis-own you.
Wake up and smell the coffee, guilt-ridden America–This is not a pretty world.
Report Post »Whirled Peas
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 8:55amTRIPOLI, Libya (AP) — A Ghanaian teacher cowers in his house, certain he will be grabbed at a checkpoint because of his dark skin. Armed rebels detain 19 Ukrainian cooks and oil workers for several days on unsupported claims that they are really snipers for Moammar Gadhafi.
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So the Pol Pot/Stalin style extermination begins. It always ends this way with violent changes of ‘government’. Blood baths due to begin in 3…2…1…
In No Place to Hide, Grathwohl explains that the Weathermen (Bill Ayers & Co) actually believed that they would be successful in overthrowing the U.S. government and that, with the help of the Cubans, Chinese, Russians, and North Vietnamese, they would occupy America. Americans would have to be “re-educated” in camps, similar to what the communists did in Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, and other countries they had taken over.
Report Post »http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/election/480
Read it and weep.
Ex_Masshole
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 8:02am“Black Africans?“ Is the PC version of the phrase ”African Africans?”
Report Post »Quagmir
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 8:09amMust be a typo. Should be African-American Africans.
Report Post »robert
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 8:31am“Black Africans Escalate Complaints of Harassment by Libya Rebels”
What’s wrong with staying at home in their own countries, working to make it better instead of acting like parasites on another economy?
There were literally thousands of blacks that were involved in atrocities and attacks on Libyans for which the Libyans complained about at the time they were occurring, some of which were photographed.
They’re all peace-loving victims when they’re caught or disbanded because their side lost.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 10:04am“Black Africans?“ Is the PC version of the phrase ”African Africans?”
I doubt it. The Libyans are Africans too, since they live in Africa. The people in question come from the parts of Africa south of the Sahara, where the predominant skin tone is darker, hence “black.”
Report Post »oldsoldier10
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 7:48amGood round them up! an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure in my opinion; however, I can not wait for shariah law in the USA, we will show them blacks then! Eric Holder shariah law is about to make you and your peoples life’s easier.
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 7:22amI expect we’ll be seeing the African Americans gathering in numbers to respond to their “brothas” in need in the “mother country”. Oh, thats right, American citizens are the only idiots on the planet that actually believe that garbage. Ever see a black american call an actual African (or from any other country for that matter) “brotha”? It’s actually quite funny.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 9:28amYo Gunner. I worked with 2 Africans (who were US citizens) in Phoenix, AZ back in 2004/5. We also had a number of African-Americans working at this job. The African African-Americans didn’t associate with the poser African-Americans. You could see and feel the tension.
I asked them once why that was? You can only imagine the response I got. Not fit to write here. Lol.
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 12:03pmDave Mathews is a true African American.
Report Post »ridgerunner316
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 7:08amKnow the Libyans not that to seize the most holy ***** is blasphemy? Did not lords barrack, jesse, al and louie give them dominion over all aspects of the universe??? Surely the end of days is upon us, it will begin with all the guilt-ridden whites committing mass suicide in pentience for this abomination to the holy quartet and the wrath of the avenging panther angels shall strike down all other whites who dare to live????
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 7:14amI’m speachless……
Report Post »one years food ration like glenn says
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 9:29am@RIDGERUNNER316.. it will begin with all the guilt-ridden whites committing mass suicide <<<< If that's the case the I will be living.. I have NOTHING to feel guilty about..
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 9:42amWhat THE HELL ? ? ? ?
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Report Post »WileyCoyoteSuperGenius
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 7:05amAnother foreign policy fumble by the Obama administration…Maybe some foreign governments need to start calling for him to step down…I just want to know, How in the world can somebody be wrong about absolutely everything he does. It just seems once in a while he would get something right just from the law of averages…I think I would like to take him to Vegas and bet against every bet he makes…The smartest president ever…Moe,Larry and Curly are rolling in their graves.
Report Post »Rayblue
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 6:56amObama and Hillary and the compassionate libs were so proud of their freedom fighters
Report Post »taking out the evil forces of the dictators that earlier they would have been dining with. Admiring.
And Beyonce’ was dancing in front of for the evil dollar. Good for Beyonce’ and her baby.
They‘ve screwed this scheme up so badly now it’ll never have a sane government.
For everything to blow up in their faces at every step has raised the anger of the libs to a fever.
They can’t blame themselves. That won’t fly. There must be another answer. I know…
The (fill in your answer here) pushed them to make terrible decisions. Obstructed them in their fight to bring democracy to the downtrodden. But they tried. They had good, or at least socialistic intentions. Well, the results are in, folks.
PoliticalJunkieToo
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 6:45amKarma at work.
Now the black Africans know how white Africans feel when they are harassed, raped and their farms/lands stolen. I knew a white S. African who migrated to the USA. He said S. Africa is a sty now. Corruption everywhere, nothing gets done. He said whites are routinely discriminated against in employment. Stolen farms lay unproductive because no one wants to work them or are too stupid to know how.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 10:19amNot quite the same thing. The blacks in Libya are guest workers or mercenary soldiers in a foreign country. Those who survive can be repatriated. The whites in SA are in their own country. They have nowhere to go, as the US and European countries will not recognize them as victims of persecution.
Report Post »Long term, much worse.
Anne G
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 5:59amHey! Farrakhan LOVES KA=DAFFY. Wish Farrakhan were there in Libya right now. They would grab his racist butt and lock him up.
Report Post »Talmid of Yeshua
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 3:20amAh, Al Qaeda, i.e. the Libyan “rebels”, and the religion of tolerance and peace. Again, Islam shows it’s true colors.
Report Post »1TrueOne55
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 2:36amOoooops
Report Post »Wayner
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 2:44amJust you wait til Al and Jesse hears about this!!!
Report Post »EcceCrucemDomini
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 2:26amHey wait I though only white American republicans were racist?
Report Post »Wayner
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 2:46amWhere’s the brotha Louis Farrikhan???
Report Post »starman70
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 9:12amWhere is Jesse Jackson? Where is Maxine Waters? Where is th Congressonal Black Caucaus? Where Al Sharpton? Where is Obama? Where is Oprah?
Black Africans are being imprisoned, tortured, raped and murdered in Libya, while all these loudmouths remain silent. Where is their solidarity with their black bretheren in Libya? Where are the speeches before the U.N.? Where is the outrage from the Liberal mainsream media? HUMMMMMM!
Report Post »ThorLoser
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 1:51amAnd here I was operating under the impression that islamacists hated racial profiling.
Report Post »Fiona333
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 1:51amNote the upcoming, conspicuous and shameful absence of any condemnation of this by Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or any on the muslim-sympathetic liberal left.
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 1:49amHow long do we have to wait and see that Ron Paul was right on Libya as well.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 4:18amEvidently RP should be emperor of the universe.
Report Post »TheWholeTruth
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 1:00pmBlue.. you’re wasting your breath. It‘s sad to say but it’s true. These people here (or the majority) have their eyes open but they aren’t fully awake yet. You know that blurry eyed, mind is fuzzy phase when you first wake up. That’s where they are now. They only see what the MSM want them to see about Ron Paul. They still are being spoon fed their information. They are falling in line with the ‘Rick Perry is our man’ mantra being fed to them by the handlers. They will never see or know that Dr. Paul says what he says because he believes in the Constitution. He wants to follow it to the letter. That‘s the ONLY way we’ll get out of this mess but they don’t want to see that. They are following the leader on this manufactured ‘War on Terror’ and swallowing the kool-aid that they hate us because we are free. They HATE us because we come in and oust their leaders then place dictators of OUR choice in their place and remain as and occupying force for YEARS. They use to have good relations with us. They use to respect us for our stand on freedom of choice and religion. USE to until we started trying to change their way of life. Read for yourself starting pg 23 http://palwatch.org/STORAGE/special%20reports/SchoolBooks_English_Final_for_web.pdf
Report Post »TheWholeTruth
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 1:11pmFor those that don‘t or won’t understand what Ron Paul is saying about “Talking” to the Islamic world.. here is the basis for his stance from their OWN mouths:
Report Post »5. The West is “not serious about having a dialogue” with the Muslim Arab world.
Finally the conflicts continue because the West is not serious about dialogue.
A future look at cultural dialogue
Recently, a number of International conferences were held on the subject of cultural dialogue.
These attempts are based on the belief that dialogue – even if there is a clash – is not
impossible, even if the West – which is the strong side in the current equation in the conflict –
is not serious about conducting a dialogue… However, it is possible to spark a dialogue
which will be productive and fruitful in a several ways, such as mutual financial business
relations, through which we could drive a political and cultural dialogue.
[Contemporary Problems, grade 12, pp. 93-94]
Gypsy123
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 1:44amWish more people in this country would wake up and realize Muslims were largest slave holders in history of the world.
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 1:31amWonder how much they like Obama??? Boy Mr. President.. you opened a can of worms in Libya!! You helped a country who hates blacks?? Doesn’t say much about your decision making now does it!
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 2:22amCalypso Louie was talking about this months ago. Oh, well, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Report Post »cookcountypatriot
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 1:23ampoor cynthia mckinney…turns out no one likes her ..lolllllllllllllll not even the libyans
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 7:58pmI wish it were that way for Sheila Jackson & Maxine Waters. they are just as racist.
Since Qaddaffi fell has Cynthia stopped quoting form his Green book?
Or is she that far gone?
Will the Green (i.e. the War) Party run her again on their ticket?
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